Eventide Eclipse V4

[@crummybagpipe6996]

Man, why all the hate on this video? Apparently a bunch of jerks like to watch eventide demos. This guy seems cool enough and into the gear, give him a break man.

[@fishguru73]

There's nothing wrong with effects because an intricate melody can be made more full with an instant back up orchestra. If someone doesn't know how the effect will react then they can actually screw up the effect by playing wrong. It actually comes back down to musical fundamentals.

[@3Deity]

The Eventide DSP4500 is two H3000s in one box - both use Motorola 68000 CPUs which where also used by Mac classic, Atari ST, VariLite and by Zanussi in washing machines 10 years ago - seriously old tech! The Eclipse is several orders of magnitude faster in processing speed.

[@TimKaelen]

Man, you had me at "Hey!". Ordered one 10 minutes later. Nice video!

[@dobby240]

that begining bit sounds really really nice

[@orbithesun1]

Eventide has the best algorithms, nothing compares. It even does a great guitar amp simulation, which is amazing, because it's a studio effects processor.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

To say thats two H3000's in a box is ludicrous - the H3000 used the 68000 CPU found in the first Apple Mac and Atari ST, then later in Zanussi washing machines - and that was decades back! The DSP power in the Eclipse is orders of magnitude greater. If it isn't then please send me the Arduino file and I'll make my own! :D

[@Loopcyclemusic]

Oh my, I could listen to you playing this thing all day. Really nice clean tones, wierd effects and delays. It sounds so clear, yet smooth and spacious. Sounds great through headphones. So, suggestion for next vid, just play through all those sounds for ages with no talking just so I can listen all day, k? Sounds fair? Or send me one of these units as a prezzie so I can! Again, more than fair I think :-P Good vid.

[@3Deity]

@Doomzdayxx Thats alright, I feel that the poor sample rate of the video is helping the Eclipse sound better than it is by rounding off top end. The GuitarFX is a fine unit, I want to try one but I'm pretty much sold on the Rack Eleven. Having played one, my first intuition was to take my headphones off as I couldn't believe it wasn't coming from a cabinet.

[@3Deity]

@Doomzdayxx I promised I would never utter this but; The AxeFX 'can' emulate guitar amps, 'does' make the evolutionary step into synthesis (Hurrah!) and 'could' therefore emulate violin, piano, flute etc. How much work is a guitar amp to model from a guitar string, so why not change that string to one on a violin etc? So yeah, I agree that the AxeFX may excel in this field way beyond what Eventide kit does!

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

I definitely recognised the Ballerina setting Steve Vai used from Passion and Warfare...lol. One of the most inventive tracks ever recorded.

[@Doomzdayxx]

@3Deity I can say that the axfx is nothing short of amazing as far as perfectly emulating any amp/cab combination that you can think of. The only drawback I see with the axfx is the hefty pricetag(especially for Europeans) but alot of people will tell you that it is worth every penny

[@dejvid14]

Depends for what you want it, I guess. I'm personally looking here because I want something that can do wacky sounds - this looks like it can do them. That said, presets are usually there to show you what a unit is capable of doing.

[@alexandrasings]

The guitar amp sounds pretty real to me.

[@sandrosadhukhan]

his playing gave me the blues...

[@Doomzdayxx]

@3Deity I didn't want that to sound like I'm "trolling". I just recently got an axfx and Im just so happy with it. i know that Eventides are top notch world class for what they do.

[@juhuhuuu]

It doesn`t come with footswitch, but you can use all kind of midi footswitches, as Roctron All Axess..Behringer fc1010..or like hundreds of similar footswitches, or if you have an floor multiefx like..let say Tc Electronic Nova that have midi out, you can use that one also to change presets,

[@wilkinsi]

Everytime I buy an FX processor, I have to program from scratch. Not so with the Eclipse. I want one.

[@Doomzdayxx]

@3Deity I'm not sure. I have seen people post on the Fractal message boards that they can get their axfx to sound just as good, and better in some cases, as their eventide, and as for the 11 rack, I have only seen demos, but on message boards you will see a general consensus that axfx sounds better and is more versatile that 11 rack, and not saying the 11rack sounds bad at all, but it comes down to how much exactly do you want to be able to tweak your sounds.

[@realtruenorth]

Bad ass box, love that Paul to

[@rocknrollguru23]

@Petrasilchen There are plently of guitar players who still make good use of effects. No arguments there. But I think there is a greater proportion of players who use effects to cover up their lack of skill. So long as there is skill behind it, effects can add alot, but I just don't see that as often.

[@frylocdub]

@rocknrollguru23 indeed... but its even better when a guitar player who is great uses it..

[@jeroenbls88]

damn i want that guitar soooo bad !!!!! i love my own Gibson but this one is beautiful!

[@Doomzdayxx]

@3Deity If the 11 rack was more expensive, or the axfx was cheaper, I'd say get the ax by far, but I'm sure that for the money the 11 rack is great, and it's still like $1,000.00 isn't it??

[@Branches75]

whoa just the begining of this video amazed me lol

[@3Deity]

@Doomzdayxx I've seen people selling the Eleven for about £575 while the AxFX is £2,500? Have you played both? I really like the AxFX's impulse reverb feature. Just looked at the AxFX website again, they only had jazz guitar demos previously (I went 14 months without internet) but I see what you mean about Eventide like effects. Are these impulse based or real though? You can get impulses of all Eventide stuff but of course editing it is impossible.

[@rocknrollguru23]

@JimboMansonMB1 It's a short one sentence comment on youtube mate. Enough people got it not to be offended over it. I didn't imply anything, it's just true from what i've seen that some players way overuse effects to cover up the fact that they're not that good. Some of my favorite players use them. A Mexican duo, Rodrigo y Gabriela use a "wah" effect every once in awhile, but it's sparingly. Enough to make it interesting. Just the one that came with my amp.

[@3Deity]

I didn't know the H3000 was one effect at a time! The DSP4500 is two H3000s in a single box but don't tell me that the Eclipse, with all it's obvious regenerative chain effects, is just two H3000s! I know you guys are really intelligent types but, please, put a proper demo together! :o) Personally I'd use a valve amp for tone (or Rack Eleven) then use the Eclipse post microphone to a stereo amp so I have three cabinets for ultimate purity of both tone, effect or ability to plug in an acoustic.

[@thaexception3406]

Informative

[@ellendera1]

I understand the hype and the possibilities of tone. It's just not the sound that I want, and I don't think it could hold up to a pure tube amp.

[@vaisatchatrucci]

Anyone find it odd they didn't mention Steve Vai in the list of guitar players...?

[@javiceres]

@janethorson333 I agree although I'm pretty sure that the effects are quite complex, i.e. not just like 2 Boss boxes

[@belafarinrodisgod]

Maybe you'll need it in the studio

[@device9]

Been dreaming of this unit since the 80s when vai and everyone else had them in their $50k racks. Got one tonight traded it for a piece of shit mesa dual rectum head. best deal I ever made!!!

[@rocknrollguru23]

That's sort of how I am. I would rather spend money on lessons or some way to develop as a player. I'm not going to lie, things like this can be fun, but for me it's WAY more interesting to see what I can do with the guitar without the aid of effects.

[@kr61ab67]

@NickAgueci Oh, great comment sir !

[@rocknrollguru23]

@JimboMansonMB1 (stupid character limit) but yeah, when I play the same thing without it I sometimes notice a small error. Sometimes that gives it character with distortion, but if i'm out of practice it can sound pretty terrible (in my opinion) when on clean. Like I said, effects can be good when used right. But too many people only learn sometime small, and then just dick around with effects to make the same chords/notes sound different.

[@samuelsaenz7215]

Also Gustavo Cerati usted to play with the eventide. Soda Stereo MTV unplugged

[@Bubu2012100]

Hello, great sound!!! I believe this is an amazingly sounding unit but I have heard from an experienced user that the Eventide is slow to change presets in a live setup. I wonder if you have experience in using it on stage with a midi controller and if you agree with that comment. If this is an actual shortcoming, is it possible to overcome it anyway? Thank you

[@TheMetallkylling]

well, i do a LOT of electronica on the side, and this sounds like something i could use :D

[@JimboMansonMB1]

@rocknrollguru23 "All the effects to make even the crappiest guitar players sound awesome" definitely implies a hostility towards those who use a lot of effects. Fewer people than you think use effects to cover up their mistakes, they're generally used by people to create sounds and textures in music that you can't make with distortion. What distortion do you use? A nice overdriven amp won't cover up your mistakes, it will accentuate them because of an increased level of both volume and gain.

[@3Deity]

@Doomzdayxx - True, but then Eclipse is not an amp modeller. Thats like comparing a Ferrari and a tractor.

[@NoelGrassy]

@janethorson333 It uses effects with very complex and large algorithms [sp?]. This machine is light years away from being limiting. Save for the tedious UI. But once you get that classic treatment of space with Eventide's delays you'll completely forget about the serious Green you had to plunk down. Nothing sounds like an Eventide. I'm hardly a "fanboy" but I've been digging their products since they were called Eventide Clockworks just because of their rich delay. True story!

[@javiceres]

I can't believe how narrow minded are some comments here. Like they're not made by humans.

[@rocknrollguru23]

@frylocdub True enough, but too many guitar players seem to rely on effects. If used right, effects can rock. They can be overused too easy.

[@leddeath80]

i wonder how much this thing would cost

[@Nihilist9202]

stupid question... does it have some kind of footswitch...? Because I have watches maybe 10 videos about this machine and everywhere they change it by hand... I am considering buying it but if it doesnt have any footswitch its totally unusebla I guess :D

[@afterthefox7]

You would need the TC Electronics Fireworx instead of the Eclipse V4 for wackiness.

[@murterrock]

how is it in the live set up? i heard there is small lanetcy when you changes presets???

[@washburn7x]

theyrr about the same price too so ill definitly go axe fx

[@niteboatermusic]

yes, there's loads of musically useless patches (former Eventide owner) BUT - the one's that are useful are incredible. To my ears, no other mfr makes as stunning overall effects in one box.

[@Fkutb1234]

I want my Paul back:(

[@kiyuemadkick]

good for song openings?

[@p9hunter]

Does it come with Dual delay like the timefactor ?

[@jonnygreenwood100]

Qué chingoneria de procesador

[@rockpwnsu]

wheres paul??

[@Ambassadortrance]

Can the effects be customized and saved?

[@washburn7x]

hmm this or axe fx ultra?

[@sammywombarra]

it's not paul because that guy's from the company selling his wares

[@JohnBenoit46290]

This is not paul. BUt his guitar is really cool.

[@KenNickels]

Does it have tedium mode like the H3000?

[@MistahhB]

This one is $2000 while the G-major 2 is $500. Why should I buy the same thing for four times the price? Sure, the G-major isn't an amp silmulator, but who on a professional level wouldn't use a real amp?

[@jazzgit335]

Yeah I love effects that make a guitar sound like a bunch of noise. I play the fucking guitar because it sounds like guitar.

[@WORLDWaR358]

Not too much, but I'm not putting it down...just why not get a keyboardist?

[@ZildjianGretsch]

@leddeath80 1970euros here (about $2500).

[@davidbuzzin426]

👍🇺🇸❤

[@Prophecy001orEX]

@dadudeguy2 I agree! PAUL!

[@RCPMturbocho]

no kidding! he keeps pausing and fidgeting

[@jubjub905]

this or axe fx 2

[@billyarsenault1970]

If your AXE FX is so vastly superior to the Eclipse - then why are you still wasting your time seeking out obscure Eventide effects demo videos. AxeFx owners are by far the ones complaining about the Eclipse the most in the comments. Eclipse owners seem extremely satisfied with what they have and do not come across as angry and hateful like the Legions of AxeFx Warriors. Definitely appears to be a high rate of "AxeFx Buyers Remorse Syndrome" out there. You made the decision to buy it so its your our own fault that your guitar now sounds indistinguishable from every other AxeFx user.

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

OMG you are so correct. I burst out laughing reading your comment because I suddenly realized why AXE FX users are so opinionated and bloody angry all the time. They saw all the flashing lights, buttons and fancy displays and made the purchase but then began to realise the AXE FX doesn't sound as good as the whopping price tag suggests it should do!!! After a few months of using their very expensive purchase they then again have to convince themselves that it sounds as good as the whopping price suggest it should do. Because there is a disparity between the two they become a little heartbroken and then much frustrated because almost all of us recognise nearly two grand is a god dammed lot of money! They expected the AXE FX to be a match for a Mesa Triaxis which it is not even close too whilst also being a match for a...Matchless, Carvin Belair or Fender Twin for clean tube sounds. I can understand their sadness because I also have suffered from buyers remorse before but not to the tune of thousands of dollars or Pounds Sterling...ouch!!

[@thrasherlml]

w-w-w-w-w-wheres paul?

[@verbotenco]

You didn't mention Steve Vai? How could you? If it wasn't for him, I would never heard of Eventide H3000.

[@JimboMansonMB1]

@rocknrollguru23 Ah, So Jimmy Page, The Edge, Robert Fripp, John Petrucci and Peter Frampton are all "crappy guitar players"? Your musical genius far supercedes that of us mere mortals, oh all-knowing one.

[@3Deity]

@Doomzdayxx Okay, I will do some more research and track one down to play. Cheers for the tip. The AxeFX and Eleven are >CHEAP!< I mean, a classic Boss Chorus pedal is now £140, Green TS - £220?!? So by the time I put a MXR Phase 90 in the mix and a few others you've already spent as much as an Eleven, then add one amp.. I have a real Marshall Super Bass head, totally useless! Bloody noisy, no 'tone' it just barks. Horrible. Mint, yours for £2,500.

[@deathvalleyjoyride]

want... lust... must have... f*ck my wallet!

[@wirtentier]

10:08 is epic

[@MatthewDAmico94]

i want paul :(

[@rocklegend94]

Dude, I stopped after 1 minute, because I couldn't feel my hand anymore! I think 1: He needs to think before he starts a sentence or 2: I'm hitting my arm too hard.

[@LaNoteRouge]

Serial connection for computers ? Oh my gooooooood. Who has that nowadays ??????? You got to be kidding me !

[@kr61ab67]

@tonygasser He makes his best. Make your own video if you can afford this gear, you clever man.

[@NoelGrassy]

@dragoste747 Yup.

[@nicktshredz]

Okay good. well sometimes it's easier to do it yourself as opposed to teaching someone else what to do. you know how keyboardists in rock music work...

[@jdbodom]

oh yay, feedback...

[@najtrows]

@ruffles272 eventide demo, no paul. get over it

[@SufferDYT]

ive read this comment like 10 times and i still dont know what your implying.

[@1234ibanez]

Seems to have lots of very unusable sounds in the pre sets

[@amarr1]

seems like an axe-fx ultra would pwn this things ass. Excuse me for my internet speak.

[@meanstreetman22]

WHERE THE FUCK IS PAUL?!

[@rocknrollguru23]

@JimboMansonMB1 So just because someone uses effects that automatically makes them a terrible guitar player? Show me where I wrote that. Seriously. Do it. Don't put words in my mouth. I use some effects sometimes, but there's a time and place for them. Some guitar players use them too much and use them to cover up mistakes. Distortion? I love it. But it does hide mistakes, even ones I make.

@rocknrollguru23 BULLSHIT ... listen to robert fripp ... being crative with an effect is sometimes harder the being creative without effects ...

[@WORLDWaR358]

Why the hell would you want your guitar making ambiance sounds...isn't that the purpose of a keyboardist?

[@JonathanUGuerra]

STRYMON!

[@chuckburruss]

*Staring* you're not paul...

[@SufferDYT]

whats the fuckin point in a feedback pedal? live your gonna get feedback anyway

[@fretsofthebeast]

what?

[@Plasmus007]

Hello,iam from Argentina, I was impressed of your physical resemblance to mine, and also play guitar, look at me on youtube, my band is Smocking Flamingo, and you will realize who I am. regards

[@musiloko787]

This guy really knows about the ware but we just cant convince, look kind of insecure

[@rch456789]

woo he's nervous

[@nicktshredz]

obviously you've never been interested in ambient music...

[@daytripper22]

thats pretty bad ass! check out my channel and sub please!