Every 4 Star Module Tier List

[@Desktopped]

1:28:48 final results Guards 0:25 Arene 4:32 Beehunter 5:34 Conviction 9:25 Cutter 10:58 Dobermann 13:47 Frostleaf 15:04 Estelle 17:56 Hummus 19:33 Jackie 22:16 Luo Xiaohei 24:30 Matoimaru 29:16 Utage 30:40 Moose (no module) 49:57 Quartz (no module) Vanguards 1:20 Beanstalk 7:00 Courier 28:04 Scavenger 31:14 Vigna 1:26:36 Myrtle Defenders 3:07 Bubble 8:36 Cuora 12:21 Dur-nar (no module) 16:22 Gummy 26:35 Matterhorn 1:09:16 Lutonada Snipers 33:05 Ambriel 34:26 Aciddrop 35:35 Caper (no module) 37:23 Jessica 38:54 May 40:13 Meteor 47:01 Pinecone 53:25 Shirayuki 58:20 Totter 1:01:27 Vermeil Healers 36:10 Chestnut 36:22 Gavial 43:21 Myrhh 44:44 Perfumer 48:37 Purestream 55:52 Sussurro Casters 1:02:46 Click 1:14:34 Gitano 1:15:42 Greyy 1:16:50 Haze 1:17:51 Indigo 1:23:59 Pudding Supporters 1:05:24 Deepcolor 1:06:51 Earthspirit 1:19:42 Podenco 1:24:55 Roberta Specialists 51:04 Rope 51:10 Shaw 59:47 Verdant 1:10:51 Ethan 1:13:03 Gravel 1:22:33 Jaye

[@Desktopped]

lmk when anything is off

[@DrSilvergun]

Thanks for the effort

[@shinjitobe8297]

What the rœb

[@Chara-yp6zj]

Accidentally killing Ethan with Myrtle is pretty funny at least. Cool video!

[@shiron1076]

26:43 casually changes Matterhorn to his summer skin~

[@eclipsetarou2936]

As you should

[@pathalenvivaldi7811]

"I really like big witch hats." Guys, next time we get to pick his operators for IS, we won't be picking 'caster' Reed for him, we'll be picking Witch Reed. :D

[@gabrielsanandres537]

When Gummy got stuck in the "Bad if u dumb" tier for a little bit, I could already feel SUPAH typing a whole ass book in the comments to defend her lol

[@notbill9245]

Seeing a youtuber able to do math in real time is amazing.

[@maskedheretic9629]

Silvergun peakness. Thanks for actually doing this tier list.

[@JackFroooost]

Don't worry. I killed Ethan with Myrtle module, too, because I forgot what it does and was very confused why he kept dying on one map. I still keep forgetting about it's effect, but at least I haven't deployed them together since then. Glad to see that he has his own tier, too. My boy deserves it.

[@cedricwong0]

I once gave SA 3 block w/ Ely and he blocked a bully and died

[@thevanguardking3477]

Flagbearer mod is useful for any character with an attack count = to their block count, like centurions or crushers, or heal trait for reapers. I was going to run her anyway, and it's just an extra piece of synergy to other pieces I was also already going to run.

[@DrSilvergun]

Thing is you need enemies in range for that extra block to do anything. And in 99% of cases 3 block is plenty for your aoe guard to clean house. It's not useless just insanely niche in practical terms.

[@bazovich]

40:25 He nearly said "Memeteor" lmao

[@theopollind8024]

The only tier list that truly matters for 4 stars, and no, you cannot tell me otherwise

[@rw6611]

Silently changing Matterhorn's skin and continuing like nothing happened really got me ;d

[@Aloecatt]

A one and a half hour Dr silvergun video? We’re eating good fr

[@princenwegbu3045]

This is kinda random, I still can't believe that SUPAH really thought that the defender x module is bad during his Year 1 Operator Tier List. It gives 20% defense buff when blocking enemies, and stacks. This was for Hoshi too, and while the extra block on the Y module is really good, especially for the last stage of this current event where the 4 block Buggies gain invisibility on cm. The upgrade is bad because defenders in general are pretty much defense oriented.

[@marielcarey4288]

NEVER trust Supah to rate operators

[@warperthinger]

On Verdant and Earthspirit's pages I noticed you were fiddling with the hoverable text. The intended behavior is, if you make the tooltip appear and then move your mouse, it assumes you've already read it and won't display it again until you move off and back on. For some reason this applies if your mouse stops and starts moving at all, even if the tooltip didn't have time to appear. I think most other tooltips with a delay work like this too.

[@angelrodriguez-di9tw]

I like how i been long enough in the game to hear that a bunch of the units i use are quite bad and say "well... anyway" i stand the sad cat, and the other thing is see how some of those modules would have more value if given to other ops, i dunno is like someone mistook them and gave them to other ops

[@DrSilvergun]

Arknights is most fun with bad units tbh Anyhow yeah a lot of modules don't fit their operator well.

[@angelrodriguez-di9tw]

Oh yes, some time ago, before go deeper into game knowledge i raised and used Kirara, today is still E1 but the E2 would come, and Pinecone best girl, she is not a bad character clearly, but the second i pulled her it was like magic, i first liked her design and after her capability of murdering the enemies, Exusiai who knows you! (The only most meta thing that i have raised is a Mlynar and i dont use him that much)

[@Raptchur]

@@DrSilvergun Sometimes you need to manually adjust the difficulty. I do the same in Dragon's Dogma 2. I run around naked and use lower tier weapons.

[@einsUNDcolt]

I am so excited for Beanstalk's module. She's my favorite 4*

[@zancloufer]

Amaranthine basically means "of or like the amaranth" or "purple-red colour". Amaranth being an ancient grain used by Central/South American natives and it was also often purple-red in colour. Amaranth can also refer to a mythological everlasting flower. Considering this is Pondeco we are talking about it probably refers to an everlasting purple and/or red flower. So an Amaranthine Nursury probably is some sort of greenhouse where the flowers are always in bloom.

[@zeroosanity]

I kinda feel like Roberta could be in "weak" rather than "irrelevant" because she gets +1 starting device and not just increased cap - it can help occasionally when you're dumping devices as quickly as possible, and regen from S2 can't keep up (which likely isn't too common, but still). Thanks for stream, always interesting to hear your perspective on things like these.

[@DrSilvergun]

I said the same thing :D It's super uncommon for her buffs to be relevant though

[@dennisdacillo6516]

​@@DrSilvergun I max her out because of Bubble and it's quite funny that Bubble can one shot weak Sniper enemy with it and it still proceed even though she have shield given.

[@lunamagnoliid8984]

Arts defenders will probably get a module the day a 6 star actually comes out of their specific class. Maybe they'll get an extra block for standard Defender parity.. Mentioning attack speed on Mousse, it might be a 'funny rng' upgrade if she got attack speed on crit or something to counterbalance the extended attack duration of it. Though of course extra talent effects are like a 15% chance to happen between 4 and 5 stars. And crushers.. I like parroting that percentage defense ignore, like 10%, would be the most straightforward offensive trait boost. Suits their besieger-ass flavor of attack. Plus would give a bigger boost to Quartz S2 to give you an excuse to use it. (Likewise I believe Incantation "medics" should get like 15 *percent* res ignore Y mod, to pair with the lifesteal + arts amplifiers that the healing is centralized around) Defensively, like for a Y module, it might be funny if crushers get an extra life - cuz dreadnought meming.. But really, a "10% dmg reduction (not sanctuary) for every blocked enemy" might also make sense on the "alright well here's another centurion mode" angle...

[@VilArknights]

Minosknights players use conviction too much, so there are a few things you missed that are worth noting: 1: Conviction also gets a lower redeploy cooldown. This means that they can serve as a pseudo-FRD for some situations thanks to having a ~40 second downtime between retreats. Unfortunately, the stun is greatly impactful here, and since Conviction can't block this means they're effectively useless for the first 10 seconds of every deployment, which sucks. The stun is shit. 2: Conviction can actually block enemies for one frame after deployment. This means that you can force out a single auto from an enemy on deployment, which has exactly NO useful applications and since Conviction isn't very tanky it serves as yet another detriment to this cursed ass operator. 3: The module is bugged! For the first deployment Conviction won't refund dp on retreat, which if you only have 5 operators means that your dp economy is screwed. This means for the first deployment there is no inherent benefit to retreating Conviction manually, so you should just let the bugger die. Retreats work as normal from the second deployment onward, though. Conviction is so damn cursed why was Minos given an april fool's operator as at least 20% of the niche if not more because Erato sucks and Conviction is lowkey crucial to the niche as a whole being an 8 dp blocker.

[@DrSilvergun]

I knew about the first two, but those are functions of conviction not the module. The 3rd one - LMAO

[@VilArknights]

@@DrSilvergun yes but module reduces redeployment cooldown further which you didn't mention

[@metathpr4h290]

I didn't know what to do now... boy what an amazing fix just showed up on my youtube recs. Thanks a lot, looking forward to watching this!

[@TwoSouthFarm]

Looks like a good video to revitalize my dedication to this niche

[@thefellowofthefellows]

Haze's module is fucking goated IMO

[@please_be_an_operator_soon]

As a guy who used 6 stars as my main force, I can agree that sushiman is one of the best in his department.

[@Sceptera]

Because of how much I ended up using Mrtle I upgraded her module level 3 just as a her you go, good job, keep printing dp.

[@xtranathor8143]

Estelle's buff may be weak, but that didn't stop me maxing her Module as soon as it dropped! I liked that it made her tankier, but I do agree that more damage would have helped her overall. I like to think of it as being a useful bonus against snipers, since ranged damage is her biggest issue.

[@gaerekxenos]

There's a few specific niches for some of the modules. Gravel's looks like it is supposed to impact NTR Knight's redeployment for certain skills as the main use case. The point is to bounce NTR Knight and Gravel back and forth for deployment Xiao Hei's Atk Spd increase module is a minor buff with Stainless S3 iirc (though it's still mostly irrelevant, let's be real here-- there are better options for proccing Stainless S3 consistently as a ground unit). It's probably a little better than you think, but not by too much Myrtle E2 Talent is a pretty big deal, so the increase to healing can make or break some things depending on how you are playing. I wouldn't say it is completely irrelevant, but with how a lot of endgame players play, I suppose it can be irrelevant due to lack of vanguards being on the field for tanking Rope module sounds hilarious in certain circumstances... it's like they looked at certain slingshot memes and decided to double down on them Overall, a good list. But I'm going to have to say it is too early to judge for the units that don't have a module yet.

[@dreiak]

There are no diminishing returns on atsp. The problem with atsp on physical damage units is that it only impacts your DPS after taking defenses and DR into account, but you always get your atsp stacked the same no matter how it is added or calculated, so 6 atsp will always equal 6 more DPS, but only the net not gross. It will be less than 6% gross in terms of how much damage you actually gain from it. Atsp is also good on offensive SP skills since it makes the skill charge faster.

[@H0elessRomantic1]

I was hoping for some reason to E2 my Earthspirit, because of her new cute skin, and I always liked her E2 art. And now I have it. Thank you.

[@Barge_Bingus]

I saw "bad if u dumb" and immediately went "Myrtle" as I reminisce on how I absolutely annihilated my Arene on a recent map.

[@lupomikti]

Awesome. My hope is that this can be used in conjunction with Dragon's spreadsheet (the lower rarities tab) to help prioritize. Because my brain has issues I've spent probably a collective 20 hours coming up with a formula that allows me to assign a number to every module I want for ranking their priority against each other so I know which modules to focus on. Lots of arbitrary constants determined through messing with sliders in desmos / trial and error, natural logs so some numbers don't have too big of an impact, normalization... just stuff no sane human should put time and effort into xD But it's cool because I made it work so you can completely ignore the Dragon stuff and provide your own scales for the weights and it'll all be internally consistent. The biggest challenge though... is how to balance lower rarity vs 6 star. I'm still trying to tweak the formula for this, not entirely satisfied yet.

[@DrSilvergun]

1 6 star is worth roughly 3.5 4 stars on normal maps. This is roughly the ratio you see in low operator records. This doesn't hold true in CC or other high difficulty maps. In CC value is all over the place and one good 6* that completely shuts down some mechanics can be worth more than 13 4 stars

[@BillyONeal]

RE: you know who: brought Deepcolor to IS4 and thought something was broken because she didn’t have 7 cheap summons 😅. Just never used her before it, it’s almost a whole new identity

[@DinnyForst]

Joke aside, this is really helpful and I appreciated your information and insight as someone who usually play mixed rarity team. *I'm sorry I maxed out Myrtle module*

[@Furious329]

I find Myrtle's +1 block really helpfun for the start od the stage since I put her behind Ines, it lets Ines block more while Myrtle can get DP for more expensive units

[@DrSilvergun]

I find use for her sometimes too, but it's irrelevant 99% of the time because the other operator just kills everything block or no block

[@rw6611]

I think there's something wrong with your Ines. For me it's very strange case, because everyone unlucky to be in her attack range either getting murdered right away, or ending up giving you enough dp to deploy any other op. I think flagbearers module really makes a difference only for Saileah, who always can stay on the field and actively help killing stuff from someone's back.

[@Furious329]

@@rw6611 Yeah that's true. I mainly deploy Ines towards tanky enemies to get more dp from her skill 2 and place Myrtle behind her.

[@dreiak]

Dobermann should get a wellfare alter. It would make sense to have it be a 6* alter, but I think it would be cool if she was a 4* bard, with 4* specific synergy, since there are no 4* bards, and the idea of her acting more as a drill sergeant I think makes sense lore wise. I suppose it could encompass some of the alters that have 5* now if they made it a cost related buff, like operators with cost less than 16 or something, though that would remove some of the 4* operators. It might also be crazy to have a doberann alter who is an agent, and reduces the cost of 4* operators by 1 or 2. As it stands I kind of don't like how dobermann is designed, but she is so important to the early AK story, that I feel like its a bit weird she is so niche in a way that kind of prevents people from using her, because 3* niche players will avoid using a 4*, and most of the 4* players ONLY use four stars, and the low rarity guide makers or creative clear people (like i love amiya, and Kyostin, or Ecogen) will use amiya or one 6* support unit with a mix of 3 and 4* ops, and in each of those cases dobermann doesn't really make much sense, in a way she suffers from being too high of a rarity, or her talent effecting too low of a rarity. MANY players want her to just have the buff extended to 4* and below, but I agree with bloop, she should just have a wellfare version, because its weird that you need gatcha to get her at all. If her purpose is to help new players, then she shouldn't be RNG, and guide makers can actually take that into account when giving advice for how to start out. As it stands they will always refer to 4* ops who have RIIC skills, or scale really well instead of dobermann because you can't assume someone will have them, and when people say "build these 4* ops" its myrtle, gummy, and if they are based vigna.

[@LuckyTyches]

thank you for doing god's work

[@l0kk016]

Actually love myrtle module cuz i can use it to brute-force a specific operator in a lane I often want to use a specific character out of stubbornes cuz I like their kit, but they would normally not be able to block everything... Can't count how many maps that was relevant for Chongyue or Bagpipe

[@DrSilvergun]

My exprience is that I just press bagpipe s3 and literally everything dies for so long that I have my entire squad deployed by the time the skill ends.

[@l0kk016]

@@DrSilvergun yeah but what if your stubborn and don't want to use the rest of the squad lol

[@Kira_Yoshikage959]

26:42 silvergun can't keep his matterthirst to a minimum Also since they're husbandos, I upgraded Jaye and Totter's modules once they come out. No regret at all.

[@dark_drakon6814]

Thanks so much for this video Sometimes it's really hard to judge module to me on statistic alone This would Video save me a lot of resources

[@PitangerTrad]

22:18 : "Next we have the gyatt"

[@Kilyasy]

Cutter enjoyer

[@RafaelWatches]

Have you thought of doing reviews and opinions on all 4* ops? Like a brief explanation of their kits, how good or bad or mid they are, etc?

[@DrSilvergun]

I've been reviewing the new ones for a while Need to retroactively cover the old ones at some point

[@RafaelWatches]

@@DrSilvergun when are you gonna post one, if you will make a video on it?

[@SmokuZnadPotoku]

OMG TURN OFF THOSE COOKIES AT SOME POINT!1111 Damn man rly

[@Ninakoru]

Indigo module belongs to broken tier! ^^ Suzuran is definitively weak tier. You mix a bit how good the operator already is with the module enhancements. GREAT tier list, thanks!

[@DrSilvergun]

Suzuran isn't in this tier list xd

[@Ninakoru]

@@DrSilvergun susurro!! omg

[@DrSilvergun]

@@Ninakoru ah right yeah I agree, her and gavial's positions should be switched Surro makes op immortal onskill module or not Gavial plays with keeping ops just barely alive a lot more so her module is more relevant.

[@YukiKazami]

Genuinely shocked at how low you rated Roberta, I've had chances to use her a lot and I always felt like she contributed a ton. Especially in events like Il Siracusano where you're dealing with Silencers and Roberta by herself can tank S tier silencers by herself as long as you have any healing at all on her. Specifically, the "Only the shields matter" comment is what surprises me I suppose.

[@DrSilvergun]

This is a ranking of the module value, not roberta

[@YukiKazami]

@@DrSilvergun For sure, I was just surprised about you feeling that the defense boost wasn't worth boosting

[@cocoa7278]

Made the list for reference: You Know Who Ethan Broken Bubble, Deepcolor, Cuora, Cutter, Doberman, Meteor, Purestream, Jaye, Pudding Good Buff Haze, Indigo, Earthspirit, Perfumer, Totter, Matoimaru, Aciddrop, Arene, Beanstalk, Conviction, Gummy, Humus, Matterhorn, Scavenger, Vigna, Ambriel, Podenco, Pinecone, Shaw, Shirayuki, Sussuro, Greyy Weak Buff Jackie, Luo Xiaohei, Gavial, Estelle, Courier, Utage, Jessica, May, Myrrh, Click, Verdant, Vermeil, Gravel, Gitano Irrelevant Beehunter, Frostleaf, Rope, Lutonada, Roberta, Myrtle Bad if u Dumb Myrtle No Module Durnar, Caper, Chestnut, Mousse, Quartz

[@ILoveAmiya]

Based Dobermann in the correct position Also I'm kinda mad about Estelle. Vulcan and Hung's module also reduce damage, but they affect phys, arts and even true damgae as well. For some reason only Estelle (And Fuze) get cucked and it only applied to phys.

[@DrSilvergun]

the only explanation is that this module was made just to fuck over estelle

[@januszpolak254]

​@@DrSilverguntbf Vulcan and Hung are defenders while Estelle is guard. Guards are supposed to be weaker survivability wise

[@DrSilvergun]

@@januszpolak254 But she has no offensive compensation for the lower defensive value :( Also I want a more offensive module not a more defensive one

[@RafaelAntonioMartinez-jb3du]

You think it would have been better if Luo Xiaohei got a talent that's like "deal 120% dmg against enemies with more than 50% of their max hp"? Cuz it actually deals with the problem he has, being that he can't proc his additional dmg with s2.

[@DrSilvergun]

Another issue is that his s2 has a relatively short duration so if he spends half of it to lower an enemy below 50% hp there is onle 10 seconds left to do real damage.

[@RafaelAntonioMartinez-jb3du]

@@DrSilvergun yeah, that also is pretty problematic. What do you think is the effect that could fix his issues? Also, you think 120% isn't enough? S2 is an atk multiplier, right? And a pretty hefty one, I'd say. Almost double his normal atk.

[@DrSilvergun]

Depends on what you intend with "fix his issues" For what the module system is the module he got is reasonable. Granted a straight dps increase of about half of what he gets when under 50% hp will benefit him more but that's a bit boring. If you're looking to fix the op ignoring the module system restrictions I think he his biggest issue is that his talent doesnt't fit him and he needs a diffrent one.

[@RafaelAntonioMartinez-jb3du]

@@DrSilvergun oh yeah, I don't know why he actually got that talent. I feel like a lot of operators get this treatment, where they have skills and talents and traits that don't synergize together. I "feel", cuz I haven't actually looked into more ops that gets designed like this. Can only think of two, being Luo himself and Meteor, who got def reduction skills, yet have a talent that specialises in anti air. But I can't really think of skills that actually synergize with anti air talent, or talents that synergize with def reduction skills.

[@RafaelAntonioMartinez-jb3du]

Apparently, I thought wrong. Luo s2 has an atk multiplier of +70% at m3. For some reason, I thought it was 95%.

[@EKTOS]

Can u pls make a module tier list for 6*

[@DrSilvergun]

no lmao ihavent even read what 95% of 6* skills do

[@frantz816]

Vouch.

[@EKTOS]

@@DrSilvergun same reason why i cant invested on mods the game already break my mine too much to even have braincells to read what the mods does and how good are they

[@regularman3153]

For shaw modules, does it apply only to block enemy by her or any blocked enemy.

[@DrSilvergun]

needs to block 2 herself then gets +1 shift power

[@matjaz5684]

Now rank every 6 star mod 🔥

[@yesno1085]

Can u make a tierlist of every 4*’s potentials

[@DrSilvergun]

too minor to bother with a vid, also u can't pick ur pots all that much. In short u want pots on vg's so u can deploy them early, beyond that Indigo benefits a lot from the extra % bind, the rest are all comparable value relative to the operator itself.

[@NearoC]

Hey, Conviction isn't 'her'.

[@midas12522]

💀

[@Only_Ameen04]

Conviction is Conviction

[@H0elessRomantic1]

​@@Only_Ameen04conviction is too long to be a pronoun

[@chaorori1623]

Its not 'his' either

[@alexiscarbajal1282]

thats what u took from this hour and a half video?

[@hlurpplurp9263]

disagree with rope module her 44% dodge and ability to be deployed on ranged tiles makes her super strong as a 10 DP cost lin. ropes effective hp doubles, she can tank 3-4 ranged and if you have a healer you 90% of cases can just rope over lin. I have both lin and rope E2 M3

[@marielcarey4288]

Holy shxt 4 stars the movie

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Came here to see Ethan at top, left being shocked to see frostleaf not at downest of downs

[@DrSilvergun]

Irrelevant is the lowest No module/Bad if u dumb are special categories

[@leonblx]

Man i missed you

[@mike-tq5es]

can you do one for 5-stars please? even if it's not a complete list, it would be helpful to see a commentary about the commonly seen 5-star operators =D

[@DrSilvergun]

don't use 5* so i'd be talking out of my ass

[@raid1010]

No 1080p ...? Sadge dokutah noises

[@DrSilvergun]

:( Laptop too wimpy to stream 1080p

[@raid1010]

@@DrSilvergun Aww I feel you 😔

[@fischwell]

does flagbearer mod work on liberator?

[@DrSilvergun]

Probably yes, have never checked it (no 4* lib)

[@kateba]

No, it doesn't work for liberators (nor other flagbearers currently using a skill). Their "can't block" trait overwrites all block gains from effects such as flagbearer module or heidi.

[@gwynimpostor]

myrtle module is bad tho if u need +1 block on cc with 0 block for whatever reason she can do that which is pretty funny

[@kekaari2695]

finally a video i will never use (probably)

[@maryhassellpetty670]

Verdant will get a good module one day. (Copium)