Every CANCELLED Final Fantasy Game [Deep Dive]

[@amharbinger]

Versus scars will never heal

[@dviceix]

Dawntrail scars won't either...

[@137cloud]

​@@dviceix what happened?

[@hellslashermasaki652]

@@137cloud It did fine actually

[@JonathanJoestarJuicefest]

​@@hellslashermasaki652it was and IS dogshit

[@AlphaXXI]

@@dviceix Dawntrail wasn't deleted. You can dislike it, personally I enjoyed it, but its quality has nothing to do with this video.

[@alumlovescake]

I want to live in the universe where FFXV gets all its DLC and Type 0 was a console game from the start and got all its sequels.

[@Aware_Wolf_X4]

@@alumlovescake I would settle for the universe where Type-0 got a Western release on PSP

[@Fagnarok]

I would settle on Versus XIII and Agito XIII without the XIII trilogy we got

[@entrydenied]

Type 0 works a lot better as a PSP game.

[@dviceix]

and i would like to live in an universe where FF14 ended with Endwalker....

[@jesse1381]

I would want to live in a universe where FFXV is an entirely different game with all different characters in a different world. Noctis and company appear in Versus XIII as they were originally designed and the game is released to Nomura's specifications. DLC is also never a thing in said universe and the idea of DLC is universally scoffed at in favor of releasing games as complete experiences.

[@Forever_Zero]

Man, the era from XIII to XV was incredibly rough, Final Fantasy has endured some incredible development hells, most series wouldn't be able to survive so much

[@Acesinz]

100% agree and FF16 is rubbish too

[@madaraman27]

16 was incredible and yeah the dark ages were rough very thankful those times are over

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@Acesinz16 are way better than 13 to 15 FF been good since 7 remake

[@wiseguy240Winston]

​@@dxtremecaliber13-2 is better than 16 overall tho

[@KutairoGaming]

FF16 sucks and 13 is amazing

[@AzureRoxe]

Dawn of the Future and Versus still hurt. Versus died so FFXV could live and they still didn't finish it and canceled all the actually INTERESTING DLCs.

[@silent_nezuko]

I’m still hopeful Versus XIII leaks one day. Even if it’s just beta rooms or a walking sim.

[@Morgil27]

I honestly feel like the pixel remasters were essentially the final nail in the coffin of the 3D remakes of V and VI.

[@williamgeorge2580]

It's a pity because the 3D versions were very good.

[@ProxyDoug]

Makes me wonder if these remakes (counting from 1-6) were all done as a single package, how much of the assets would be reusable lowering the budget in the end. Doesn't really matter today since square doesn't understands that a remake doesn't have to be a massive expansion on the original costing hundreds of millions of dollars.

[@mjbuffalo716]

I’m surprised X-3 didn’t make this list, because I definitely remember them talking about both a Yuna journey and a Rikku journey to follow X

[@bolladragon]

The plot for Yuna was converted into a drama CD. It’s out there and you cam read the translation. Also it was bad.

[@pablodelgado7919]

​@@bolladragonwhoever greenlit that audio drama was sure high on drugs, because man it was horrible nonsense from start to finish. No wonder nobody aknowledge that garbage as part of the FFX games.

[@jesse1381]

​@@pablodelgado7919 That's more or less why the plot was never allowed into a game. They did us a massive favor by putting it on an audio drama that no one cares about and only a fringe faction of hardcore lore purists would ever be aware of

[@DonCactuar]

Great compilation topic, a long-video supporter over here. The second wave of DLC's for XV still hurts. It's always kinda sad to look back at XV and think.. , what would've have happened if everything went smoothly.

[@maduinx2]

It was the perfect opportunity to talk about Final Fantasy Haeresis (or Haeresis XIII), of which I remember only seeing the logo.

[@ProxyDoug]

First time I even hear of it.

[@Arkholt2]

There are few video game projects more ambitious, and that produced more disappointing results relative to said ambition, than Fabula Nova Crystalis. I'm even one of the minority that actually like the games that came out of it. I love the whole FF13 trilogy, I love FF15, and I love Type-0. But what we got was so much less than was promised. Plus, the concept itself, of having a complex mythology shared between worlds who interpret it differently, is actually really neat, and I would love to see something like that happen in a different set of games. The FNC mythos itself is fascinating as well, and is some of the most interesting lore in a FF game. It's just incredible how such an interesting thing can crash and burn so badly.

[@psycholuigiman]

It's not that incredible that it failed when you think about it. The more complex a world is, the harder it is to build it. In addition, some of the people building it are infamous for being unable to plan, stick to a budget, or even remember the rules of the world they made cuz they don't write everything down. Top it off with FF13 being the introduction. Now, I like FF13 too, but man, it's a disaster when it comes to its world building and story. Almost nothing about just that one game's world is communicated well to the player and requires reading hours of datalog entries that might as well be as interesting to read as a wiki page.The story is told out of order and proper nouns and concepts are just thrown around like the player should know them when you just hit New Game. Even after they seemed to have gotten their bearings, they go and introduce FF15 and its three different companion pieces that you're expected to play/watch because the main game itself will do less than the bare minimum to clue you, the player, in on the very important politics and already fully developed relationships between many of the characters. It's just sloppy and only the most outstanding Final Fantasy fan, in total denial of the series' decline, would invest so much time, money, and energy into a game that was stuck in development hell like FF15.

[@keblin86]

The PS2 is my favourite console, can u imagine if they did have Remakes of VII, VIII and IX on it. DAMNNN!

[@DrStunJosh]

As unfortunate as XV’s cycle was, Dawn to the Future is fantastic and shows the full potential of a binary ending experience for XV-with both endings, the one from the game and the one from novel, having different meanings but very strong emphasis and conclusions

[@georgehouliaras7239]

Dawn of the Future will always hurt. We never got the chance to kick Bahamut in his espers. Luna never got the chance to shine and Ardyn's lost his redemption arc. It's all Chaos fault.

[@AzureRoxe]

The almighty female Dragoon Aranea who was shown since Versus was also just thrown to the side. Her DLC was all she had and it got canceled too.

[@georgehouliaras7239]

@@AzureRoxe Yeah. Aranea too.

[@kuroinova2056]

Bahamut was actually fightable in comrades dlc. What hurts is the team that was using luminous engines has dissolved.

[@Hyreia]

FFVI is my favorite Final Fantay game but at this point I'm happy that they haven't really tried to remake it. The Pixel Remaster needed more polish. I'd have wanted them to not expose more bugs, weird things being off camera that shouldn't, and finish little things that weren't finished originally (Some better conclusion with Gau and his dad come to mind. More with Cid if he survived. Banon just died off-screen, a final confrontation of Shadow and Strago about Relm's paternity.) You know: things the fans have already modded in with love and care into the original game. I already have what I want. I don't want FF6 Re:Make. Too expensive, too slow to produce. The show staff are hyperfixated on the opera scene. Which is extremely memorable and has some thematic elements with the main story but it's what they like.

[@erdalkamiloglu4683]

FF Versus XIII is now Reynatis, KH4 and Verum Rex.

[@Aware_Wolf_X4]

Really wish more people would play Final Fantasy Type-0.

[@dayphaser]

Just gives u mad motion sickness

[@stygy9929]

it fits the switch tbh. Id get it on there just to have it on the go

[@Aware_Wolf_X4]

@@stygy9929 It really would be perfect for it.

[@johnnymike8971]

I tried. I really tried... I loved the opening... But the script and voice acting throughout the rest of the game was so cringe, it left me disappointed

[@OBITOMAJIN]

@@stygy9929sameeee

[@Xeikkeiu]

I'm still sort of obsessed with the cancelled Fortress game XD It was developed and then cancelled around the time when I first started studying to be game developer, so back then it felt really mysterious, and I loved collecting any concept art that surfaced online.

[@Griever_Plats2021]

I'm still hoping that they will port Final Fantasy dissidia from the psps to current consoles

[@thesvc2006]

super interesting video, and your voiceover is so calming and comforting! love your work!

[@Taranchule]

The lost Final Fantasy game that intrigues me the most is Project W by Eidos. A FF take on Spelljammer in fractal space just sounds too cool.

[@ProxyDoug]

It's strange how despite being connected at first, Fabula Nova Crystalis takes an entirely different approach with summons, so much so, it's hard to tell which implementation was the original and which ones derived from it.

[@Kokorae]

Chocobo de battle just needed to be a reskin of twisted metal and it would have sold boatloads

[@kainrich6183]

FF3+FF4 for the DS where great Games, very good but also very hard

[@desenhoerpg]

The cancellation of FFXV made me really sad. At least SE release the novel, that I love a lot.

[@BirdOfHermes83]

Whats its title?

[@kianafok3226]

@@BirdOfHermes83dawn of the future

[@pichugirl6]

I remember thinking how strange it was that during the GBA era Square would gladly re-release FF1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 onto that handheld but never FF3. I never understood why didn't they or just if they didn't think audiences would cater to wanting to play FF3 at all??? Not only that but in nearly every port of the FF games to the handhelds would throw in a few extra things that weren't in the original from extra dungeons, post game stuff and even super bosses. Slowly makes me question if some of the stuff that didn't get finished was later put on the DS, like how the Iron Giant became a super boss.

[@moisescorral8297]

That XI remake being canceled really hurt.

[@OriginalRyan]

I'd love a new Chocobo racing game and an FF party game not dissimilar from the Mario Party games featuring mini games from FF games.

[@NoctLightCloud]

such a FF party game exists. "Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable" is a crossover party board video game in the long running Itadaki Street series.

[@NoctLightCloud]

Ivalice is underrated. I hope ff17 is an Ivalice game.

[@Dracobyte]

Thank you for another interesting video!

[@eaburns]

Great video. Also glad to hear John Oeth here. Thanks!

[@mjbuffalo716]

In another universe, I am Fortress’ biggest fan 😭 I want it SO bad!

[@louiechudley5616]

I remember being so bitter when Fortress was scrapped. I still want more Ivilice Alliance titles.

[@7DragonEyes7]

That is only the ones we know, there is so many games getting cancel without the public knowing. I feel like game development seems to take so much time and games are not evolving like they use to, because so many are cancel behind the scene and now it's a risk to finish a big project so they become bland.

[@lordsnia2152]

absolutely fantastical approach to your videos. thanks for your high quality content. keep up the good work. wish you well.

[@TearDownGenesis]

Versus, and Tactics 2 are ones I really wanted.

[@OriginalRyan]

Tactics 2 for sure!

[@OBITOMAJIN]

Anything final fantasy tactics I want! With more classes an revamped classes an more story lore

[@OBITOMAJIN]

@@OriginalRyan 📠 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@WillStutler]

what a great upload!! we missed out on what looks like to have been great stories. makes me kinda sad

[@Justus272]

I'd like to also hear about the FFXII titles that were probably canceled before they even began development. Such a shame that one of their best titles only has half the story told.

[@cmlmonstar007]

FFIII PSP/GBA existed in another universe. It includes the Iron Giant fight and the dragons are more common in the game and it includes new variant enemies not in the nes version and the dummied ones like spriggan in the iron giant dungeon plus u can save before the final boss. like my idea eh.

[@scizorunleashed]

FFXI mobile was such a good idea, shame they couldn't come to a creative agreement

[@curepipopapo7031]

Annoucing 7, 8 and 9 remakes for ps2 after 6 months of ff9's release is not a good idea, well that explain why they almost went bankrupt in this decade

[@orangejjay]

I really wish Square would commission or develop themselves a proper, Remake-like edition of FF6. Doesn't have to be as massive as FF7R but pixel remasters are lame and seem to make the titles worse. FF6 deserves at least an Octopath Traveler 2.5D-like remake with awesome FMVs that go beyond a trailer or intro, at the least. 😢❤❤

[@gamingbythefollowing4999]

I would love to see those canceled versions that were almost complete. Like FF4 for the nes

[@RevenantAD]

What made me upset was when they took down Final Fantasy Dissidia Opera Omnia on phone that game helped me a lot good community made me get discord for the first time.

[@antiquatedg0ld]

I'm still sad about FFDOO too

[@alumlovescake]

SE seem to have a thing for making a LOT of mobile games and killing them all one . Most dying in only a few years. And they never make any attempt at an offline version

[@RevenantAD]

@@antiquatedg0ld I still have the full download of the game on my main phone and the Japanese version on my old phone I'll never delete them I still keep all the videos and screenshots I have

[@RevenantAD]

@@alumlovescake people fear Evercrisis will have the same fate

[@sertianaputra3569]

Gacha games are not sustainable regardless

[@Gregoroth_Durai]

Loved this. Thank you!

[@Eric-yt7fp]

While I've heard of the original plans to develop FFIV and V simultaneously, I've never heard that V was supposed to be released first. That makes absolutely no sense. I'm going to need a citation for that.

[@SuperNamuGaming]

watch their Complete History of FFIV, there's Famitsu articles shown in that video citing how FFV was supposed to come first

[@OriginalRyan]

It'd be cool as well if we had an FF version of Monster Rancher from the PS1. Having different classes of monsters tamed to face off in tournaments would be really cool.

[@virtualbunksie5117]

Idea, the repeating characters, either by name or actual character. The differences or appearances of cid, or biggs and wedge.

[@MikeAruba69]

I'm gonna be so mad if Square cancels the Ever Crisis version of Before Crisis. That's one of the FF7 games I've been wanting to play since way back!

[@ikmalice9302]

A true FF11 remake using unreal 5 would be a gold mine for square

[@SinfamousGamer]

2:13 I'm so mad chocobo catching and breeding wasn't in rebirth.

[@thend4427]

It's less of a hassle I'm glad

[@GlacierRain]

Versus time line is where I wanna be man this game made me wet my pants when i was in high school starting and I got it in my hands after I finished University...god damn it man

[@newworldproject_]

Great video!

[@Xanderstrife2]

does anyone think that the stone that the woman is holding at 33:53 looks a lot like the stones from Zelda: Tears of The Kingdom? It does to me.

[@journ9er]

33:23 I bought a then-latest iPhone just to play the mobile FFXI game. I was a big fan of the original, and I was in the English PS2 beta test.

[@mountainhorse9419]

Great compilation

[@ADAMAGAYAN]

thanks for the video ❤

[@lordsnia2152]

link of The Complete History of Final Fantasy IV isn't in description?

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

Many apologies, it's there now. To save you looking, here's a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fV7Klqp9l9Njj6s

[@Zekeskilleon]

So what im hearing at 2:58 is we almost had chocobo twisted metal... that would have been cool

[@sinjull2256]

I remember reading in an old gaming paper here in Sweden about FF7-2. If it was just a hype thing or a wish is something I can't remember.

[@wearenough]

This was very peaceful to listen to and learned about a ton of stuff

[@shadowalk3]

No mention of Brave Exvius :(

[@pianoman021]

Could we please get a remake of Dissidia + Dissidia 012 in the vein of Crisis Core: Reunion?

[@carltaylor2975]

A guy posted a comment saying he wants to live in a universe where FFXV gets all its DLC and Type 0 was a console game and got all its sequels. Okay, not a bad universe. But if we get to pick I want to live in a universe where Chrono Trigger gets an up-to-date remake and a legit sequel.

[@OriginalRyan]

An actual sequel from the OG game for sure.

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

I wouldn't even mind living in a universe where the Chrono Trigger fan remake never got canned, or was leaked at some point

[@Ultimaniacx4]

I wish I could go back in time and blow my past self's mind by saying random sounding stuff like "Luxord is Noctis' driver."

[@virtualbunksie5117]

Let's go, it's a long one.

[@lukeisabat2239]

Ive never played FF2 but disiddia is the reason why i think Firion is one of the most badass looking characters in final fantasy

[@zidarose]

It was a wonderful watch/listen

[@lightlegion_]

Hi! I hope you're having a great day.

[@brentcable4874]

It'll never happen, I wish someday we'll get the original game for Versus XIII. Perhaps repurpose the story for another, new IP.

[@AggressionSsbb]

Do you think ff69 will be canceled before it's made?

[@Pacifist11921]

this scratched the itch real good 👍

[@opalwisdom9780]

Damn that concept of FFT-2 would’ve been amazing.

[@kaz7243]

I still wish that I live to see a Dissidia, FF Tactics Advanced and FF6 remakes

[@Kuttdog]

W video ffunion

[@wmv8996]

I wish that crystal chronicles "remaster" was on this list.

[@rayoflight1920]

Man Nomura really is something, one can't tell whether he's overly ambitious or just bad at handling creating games. I understand him wanting his vision of versus 13 realised somehow but why he's adamant that it must be a part of some franchise? At first it's a ff game, then it's part of kindom hearts. Why doesn't he make versus 13 just completely stand alone entry with its unique universe, spells, creatures, names, mechanics... Like how Mr Sakaguchi has lost odyssey and fantasian? I think fans wouldn't be as disappointed in 15 had versus 13 not had 'final fantasy' in its title

[@itsyaboyj0j0]

My man Nomura is bad at handling games... Just look at the numerous retcons Kingdom hearts has gone through over the years. He's really good at creating "lighting in the bottle" moments, but he's terrible at following them up.

[@137cloud]

You know what? I think FFVII remake on PS2 might've been amazing, considering square enix have good reputation on that era. They're also good at making games on a limited hardware capabilities.

[@1chibanKasuga]

ffx2 disagrees

[@GeaForce]

Episode Torgal?

[@alumlovescake]

Episode Necktar the Bold

[@EricSanAltarez]

You forgot the one battle royale game they ever made: Final Fantasy First Solider. It was damn good; if only they would port it to the PS4; but for some reason, they wanted to keep the game mobile; don’t know why but they refused and it ended up dying with a duration of 2 years. Like… why Square Enix? You had a good thing going and messed it up. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PoliceTelephoneBox]

As a current FFXI player, I'm glad the mobile game didn't come out. It wouldn't have carried the spirit of the original.

[@handsinthefire]

As someone who did play but no longer plays, same. Even seeing it hear left a bad taste in my mouth.

[@strataseeker2981]

While I always heard rumors of a Tactics 2, this is my first time seeing screen shots. Those do not inspire confidence that it would have been the game we had all hoped for. Such drastic changes in gameplay away from the original including off-map battling feels weird. Watching the slow... well not train wreck, but certainly fender-bender that was the journey from Versus XIII to XV was quite a journey. There's elements of it that had me very interested, but the actual game that came out just didn't feel like an FF game at all. The aesthetic, the real world branding all over it, the lack of personality in the character designs of your fixed party, and so much more. Glad some enjoyed it, but it was a huge miss for me.

[@gorimbaud]

i've seen the screenshots of fft2, and honestly the main change in gameplay seemed like it was going less for a tactics ogre and more for an ogre battle feel

[@ottlika]

has 'Final Fantasy Origin 2: From Chaos with Love' been cancelled??

[@JKSmith-qs2ii]

My heart won't let go.

[@WilliamScavengerFish]

Final fantasy...the fantasy being the paycheque...maybe that is truly what the title means...living paycheque to paycheque.

[@airget]

From a business point of view, the FF13 Project with the three games is a horrible idea because you are in essence creating 3 AAA games with a similar "JRPG" feel and expect the fanbase to buy into each one. While yes the likes of FF X-2 worked the difference here is that they were different games and more of an afterthought rather than a fully fleshed idea from conception. It's always interesting to see just how human it all is though, that regardless of how popular an IP may be or successful a company they can make absent-minded mistakes that cost them a lot. Like even Spirits Within, I do ponder what their logic was releasing a "final fantasy" that had none of the charm of a final fantasy it is very strange however we can probably say that their failed foray into the movie industry is what lead them to be able to create the amazing cinematics we see today with he series. Granted this also becomes their downfall because they've allowed themselves to fall into the hole of "needing" to be this company that is always on top of technology, which cost a lot of money, one can only hope that if they do have an FF17 in the works that they potentially have the courage to dial back the graphics and just create a memorable experience with an engaging narrative rather than having to worry about needing to be the best AAA graphical game out there.

[@thrillhouse4151]

Wow only halfway for things to take a turn for the worse. I can’t believe it’s been like EIGHTEEN years since 12. They used to come out like every other year when they were good lol

[@lrod312]

FFBE: WOTV scratched the FF Tactics 2 itch for a while, especially during Covd but it’s too grindy and gacha-y (if that’s even a word). I come back to it from time to time.

[@johnnada6855]

You can totally tell they were trying to remake FF 7 and the others for the ps2 cause FFX, and the spin-offs , like dirge of cerberus and crisis core really have lots of those games, also explains why the FF 7 and 8 characters appear in kingdom hearts,

[@rayoflight1920]

Also ff8 tech Demo for ps2

[@donavancampbell6658]

When FF15 came out I was so excited that I even bought a season pass.... I was so disappointed by the game when I finished the main story that I put it down and never touched it again not even the expansion I almost did when I found out about the episodes they were releasing and then laughed when I found out they cancelled most of it I just rolled my eyes and was thankful I didn't even bother it's the first time square had ever really let me down and my opinion of them still hasn't recovered and finding out they made those episodes a book really pisses me off... Can't believe I wasted all that money and time I know they usually make good games but it really shows that if it isn't good they don't give a shit they just charge you more for a game you've already paid full price so they will finish it... And even that's a maybe

[@Rukiah1]

I was looking forward to versus xiii for years and was so disappointed with the changes of xv. That's never not gonna be sad

[@zachdavis5212]

Fastest I've ever been on a ff video lmao

[@almendratlilkouatl]

I just accesed your engagement metrics in the system and yes, this is the fastest

[@moisescorral8297]

Just imagine if we were currently getting remakes of VII, VIII, and IX. But no, instead, we're getting VII three times. 😮‍💨

[@Peannlui]

FF9 is getting an anime, so thats something?

[@moisescorral8297]

@Peannlui Hopefully it doesn't end up cancelled like the XI Remake or Vs XIII or whatever else isn't VII. Let me clarify, I do LOVE FFVII. I just love the rest of the franchise too.

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

The only good thing and I hope it never changes. I hope we never get a western Final Fantasy.

[@kevinjimenez5382]

They should do the final fantasy versus

[@lahyen]

I actually would have loved ffvii , viii & ix remake on ps2

[@nosrepsuomynona7192]

I really wanted a 3D remake of FF5 & 6 for the DS 😞

[@HAcoreRD]

failing to remake 5 and 6 was a foolish move.

[@brunocampos8640]

>Contact western devs, because they want to to see how a Western point of view would translate to a FF > Complain that what said Western devs come up with is too Nordic looking and doesn't look like what SE themselves would come up with. Sometimes you just can't win.

[@bradwhite4827]

Chocobo Armored Core 😂

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

I wanted to see Class Zero fight Organization XIII.