Every Emperor of Trebizond From Worst to Best

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@AugustusHistory 4 ай бұрын

You have to be a savage to know enough about the Empire of Trebizond to make this video

@TrajGreekFire 4 ай бұрын

Better than using AI

@onetwothreefourfive12345 4 ай бұрын

got me interested in trebizond

@darkushippotoxotai9536 3 ай бұрын

@@TrajGreekFire I didn't think someone would prove the comment right.....

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Mikko088 4 ай бұрын

I hear the empire's official motto was: Who needs enemies when you have family members like we do.

@kennethknoppik5408 4 ай бұрын

Oh that's very well said. I couldn't agree more.

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

That seems appropriate.

@FresherDenamug 2 ай бұрын

Fighting brothers... Doesn't the bible talk alot about feuding brothers? There may be more to this than we think

@mueezadam8438 4 ай бұрын

Mom said its my turn on the throne

@christopherevans2445 4 ай бұрын

Im sure it was never far from the emperor's in Constantinople mind, that the ruling family in Trebizond had a better claim to the throne then they had.

@jessedawson8338 4 ай бұрын

Eh not really, the Byzantines didn't place as much importance on dynastic "claims to the throne" as did the western Europeans. Once it was clear that the trebuzantines had no intention or possibility to claim Constantinople, I doubt the court of Constantinople feared them at all.

@christopherevans2445 4 ай бұрын

@@jessedawson8338 at that late period sure they did. How long did the last dynasty last after the restoration from the Latins, til the end. If you mean historically sure I'm with you. But this late period is full of a few elite byzantine family's in the empire and successor states like Trebizond and Eiprus

@tylerellis9097 4 ай бұрын

Not much given the Grand Komnenoi were legally deposed and thus had no legitimacy. They also surrendered their claim to Michael.

@christopherevans2445 4 ай бұрын

@@tylerellis9097 the Komnenos family only reigned for over a 100 years before that. I'm sure if they would have had the ability to retake Constantinople this would not be any issue

@tylerellis9097 4 ай бұрын

@@christopherevans2445 The Palaiologians were also descended from the Komnenoi. All the major families were. The true Komnenian branch was usurped and destroyed by Andronikos who became a hated emperor that got deposed and ripped apart. His son Manuel got blinded and his heir John Executed. It’s Manuel’s sons who founded Trebizond. Their claim was not stronger than the rest.

@fragplays80 4 ай бұрын

The video we didnt know we needed.

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

And yet here it is.

@fragplays80 3 ай бұрын

@@EasternRomanHistoryBtw how do you make your videos? Could you make a video about that?

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

@@fragplays80 That is a very interesting idea, what specifically do you want to hear about?

@fragplays80 3 ай бұрын

@@EasternRomanHistory Perhaps your editing software, How you make your thumbnails and a small summary of how you make these videos

@byzansimp 4 ай бұрын

There is no doubt about the highest ranked Emperors, they were indeed the best. So the child rulers just slightly better than the mediocre, all the three Empresses are among the worst, but Basileios Megas Komnenos, who murdered his nephew Manuel II, purged his government, hired haughty foreign mercenaries that disturbed order in Trebizond, whose almost polygamous behavior brought the condemnation of Constantinople and his later demise and the ensuing civil war, is among the good Emperors?

@Miceman_Bonanza 4 ай бұрын

Things are so dire in Trebizond that he's one of the moderate ones. Truly the romans are their worst enemy in the West or the East.

@fragplays80 4 ай бұрын

@@byzansimp Holy geek fire, Where did you come from?

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

These are fair criticisms. While I have tried to place the kids in the middle I think some of the mediocre emperors are below average and some of them are above without necessarily warranting another epithet. The empresses of Trebizond did not reign for very long and unfortunately we either don't know all that much about them or what we do know is not exactly a litany of successes. While Basil was a ruthless man and unpopular but was a competent ruler and fairly successful, his undoing as you rightly point out was his bigamous affair with Irene of Trebizond.

@xaropy 4 ай бұрын

i've never seen anyone talk about this subject, very interesting

@memofromessex 4 ай бұрын

Love your stuff - I find Trebizond so fascinating and the whole middle-to-late Byzantine eastern Anatolia. I am also interested in what happened to the Byzantine nobility went after loss of empire - and the rump states like Epirus and Gothia, like Doukas, Gavras (or Gabras), Angelos, Komenos,etc. etc. I know one ended up in Stepney, supposedly one of the last of the Palaiologos. I believe my family were around at the time. But we only know that Godscall Paleologue was baptised I believe in the same church my ancestors went to, people say I look Greek - who knows maybe I am descendent of Godscall Paleologue!!! Τόν Δεσπότην και Αρχιερέα! Ha! :p I am currently reading Digenes Akritas at the moment, and ordered another book late Byzantine folk songs and poetry. Niche! :D

@LondonPower 3 ай бұрын

My grandfather's are Greek romans from Pontus Trabson they went to Greece in 1924 after surviving a genocide in Turkey Most of the pontian Greeks were Akrites in the borders of the Byzantine empire we figth Islam for almost 1400 years 😂

@wellthatagedwell2716 4 ай бұрын

I had no idea this empire was a thing. I need to start reading more Byzantine history again…

@FillupMan 2 ай бұрын

I think that i support the idea of your yt channel having 100,000 subscribers by the end of 2024, Eastern Roman History! Keep up the good work!

@overworlder 4 ай бұрын

I sub’d just for your channel name. Ranking Trebizond’s rulers is icing on the cake.

@fragplays80 3 ай бұрын

Can you do Emperors of Epirus next ?

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

I can certainly try.

@fragplays80 3 ай бұрын

@@EasternRomanHistory Why do you say that?

@inigowelser9971 4 ай бұрын

The trebizondians are so interesting! Could you wrote the sources you use for the video? I would love learning more about this subject!

@onetwothreefourfive12345 4 ай бұрын

Great vid

@Eugene-tm8fm 4 ай бұрын

Of course two of their worst emperors were named Andronikos, absolutely cursed name

@TrajGreekFire 4 ай бұрын

I already know that Alexios II, III, Manuel I and Andronikos I will be on top

@koksalceylan9032 3 ай бұрын

I was born in Trabzon and Salute

@tbq011 4 ай бұрын

Trapezunta is greek !

@esoterra8050 4 ай бұрын

So if you have a date in Trapezunta, She'll be waiting in Trabzon.

@Lurkzz 2 ай бұрын

So both Ioannis II Komnenos of the Roman Empire and Ioannis II Grand Komnenos had the exact same nicknames? Funny

@EasternRomanHistory 2 ай бұрын

Ironically, yes they were both kaloioannes

@extrahistorylowbudget1443 4 ай бұрын

spain byzantine plz ;'( 552 ad to 624 ad

@isaacpaleolog7103 4 ай бұрын

Agreed, very interesting subject. Especially why Romans did not advenced in penisula. Visigoths were pretty weak.

@JohnCoolRoblox5754 3 ай бұрын

@@isaacpaleolog7103 Supply route too long, if persians attacked their army would be very far. Also once arab expansion began and they lost the Levant + Egypt/Magreb it became unlikely.

@kuronekomema 4 ай бұрын

Ah.. Trebizond the real second rome.

@Transilvanian90 3 ай бұрын

More like third or fourth Rome lol

@aOldRustyTruck 4 ай бұрын

Why is there so much dislikes?

@Transilvanian90 3 ай бұрын

No clue, I saw that weird ratio too. Maybe the Turks raided this video lol.

@Transilvanian90 3 ай бұрын

Their family history makes the Lannisters and Targaryens seem like stable humanitarians.

@EasternRomanHistory 3 ай бұрын

It is one of those fact being stranger than fiction moments.

@Muramasa1794 2 ай бұрын

Megas Komenos were great rulers to last after the fall of Constantinople

@septimiusseverus343 3 ай бұрын

The Average Palaiologian Fan vs the Average Grand Komnenos Enjoyer

@mizukiri3199 4 ай бұрын

Thats a lot of civil wars and usurpations for such a small state...

@Drew151Proof 4 ай бұрын

So is the Komnenos family Greek or Turkish?

@bobbyanderson8004 4 ай бұрын

The Trebizontine emperors were of Greek and Georgian descent.

@chenminsu3171 3 күн бұрын

They are neither Greeks nor Turks. They are Romans.

@ItsJustCartier 4 ай бұрын

The Empire of Trebizond was the true continuation of Romans

@tylerellis9097 4 ай бұрын

Stop the cap the Grand Komnenoi were deposed by the people of Constantinople they have no legitimacy.

@vorynrosethorn903 4 ай бұрын

The Russian Tsars claimed their authority through them. The meanline Byzantine branch sold their inheritance to hapsburgs strangely enough, though I'm not sure it ever came to have relevance. So I guess the Russians have a better claim given that they actually made use of it.

@Marshal_Rock 4 ай бұрын

@vorynrosethorn903 not sure but I remember that the Russian claimed continuation through the marriage with a descendant of the Paleologos family

@ItsJustCartier 4 ай бұрын

@tylerellis9097 Calling Issacs usurpation and manipulation of the populace anger just that is a bit of a stretch. Ether way my comment is a joke on the idea of who are the true romans.

@Transilvanian90 3 ай бұрын

They were a parallel continuation, no more legitimate than the restored empire in Constantinople. And just as fractured and ineffectual at the end of the day, sadly.