Every Error in Game of Thrones Season 5

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Glad so many of you liked the video!

[@MrMiljan407]

Stopping or breaking a wheel is not the same thing.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@MrMiljan407 What would you say is the big difference? What was Daenerys going to do that is so revolutionizingly different?

[@MrMiljan407]

Stopped easily continues on, while broken stops forever.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@MrMiljan407 Right, but how does that translate into what Daenerys was going to do, like practically speaking?

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

It’s now my favorite show to hate watch lol I really try to enjoy it but I hear your points in the back of my mind and I’m like you know he’s right 😆

[@lib-center96]

Only issue: Breaking the Wheel and Stopping it are two very different things. A stopped wheel can turn once again, while a broken one may never do so.

[@6Churches]

Poeticaly maybe - but where in all of Dany's actions does she get remotely close to this idealistic outcome? Considering she's replaced almost immediately by a new monarch.

[@Graddg]

Bruh

[@TheBigMonkey224]

You ain't wrong

[@kendalrymple1111]

I wonder if he thought she meant Braking instead of breaking…

[@marycanary86]

i was thinking that too.... this ep of "everything wrong" really wasnt on its best leg

[@NikkiRen]

Episode 6, J’aqen slapped Arya because she WASN’T sincere in hating Clegane. She lied as she no longer truly hates him and J’aqen caught her lie. I thought that was made clear. Great video!

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Thanks! Glad you liked it :) You're right that she didn't hate the Hound, of course, but did she realize that herself at that moment? She insists that she hates him, because she believes it to be true, even though it's not the absolute truth. What better way to lie than believing it to be true? My issue is that Jaquen is able to detect the absolute truth despite this. What do you think about that?

[@juno_crystal]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 imo she is aware that she doesn't hate clegane anymore, she just can't verbalize it, maybe cause this would feel like forgiving him for all he has done

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@juno_crystal I see. Well in that case I guess we just interpret it differently :)

[@cuteflygon]

She is trying to deny it. She wants to believe that she hates clegane but the truth is she doesn’t. And Jaqen probably sensed the contradiction between what she wants to believe and what she really believed.

[@luis-yx6jz]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 do you ever admit you're wrong?

[@gfilmer7150]

The end of Stannis' arc was absolutely anti-climactic. The whole thing was a blatant character assassination. His army being stuck in the snow, the *20 good men* raid, and his sacrificing of Shireen were all rushed. The snowstorm wasn't that bad and The Mannis has survived worse. Ramsay practically has plot armor with him being able to burn Stannis' camp with only 20 men and his eventual defeat of Stannis, it feels like D&D are rooting for Ramsay to beat Stannis. It was very tragic how we didn't get The North Remembers or Stannis' victory against The Ironborn at Deepwood Motte.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

100%. Stannis was so well written and well acted all the way too. One of the biggest injustices next to Jaime's arc.

[@gfilmer7150]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 They did Jaime a major disservice by injecting him into The Dorne Plot, so they ruined two arcs simultaneously. We don't get any of the sympathetic character development from A Feast For Crows.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@gfilmer7150 I feel like they did capture a bit of that when he took back Riverrun in S6, and when he offers Olenna poison instead of something brutal, and when he goes to fight for the living against the WWs, but hooking up with Brienne and then going back to Cersei cancels all that out. It's painfully bad.

[@gfilmer7150]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 Jaime was by far the shining beacon of Season 7. His arc was amazing and then D&D massacred my boy halfway through Season 8. To add insult to injury, he says he cared for the innocent even though that’s the reason why he beat up Meryn Frey and killed The Mad King in his youth.

[@aureum7479]

@@gfilmer7150 In the Books Stannis is about to replay his last greatest tactical victory by trapping the Freys between the frozen lakes, just like how he trapped Victarion Greyjoy’s fleet, it’s highly likely he will defeat the freys at Crofters village, He has the Mormonts and Glovers with his army, half of the Umber’s and the northern mountain clans, also made a deal with the Iron Bank, 20,000 sell swords. In the Show he gets destroyed by a blizzard and 20 good men...

[@_Ten_]

I’m pretty sure Brienne meant for Podrick to steal another horse and not find a wild one lol. Stannis walking and then turning around was really weird though.

[@pepepicapinto543]

Yeah but still she said so as if it was so extremely obvious

[@MultiGardenofeden]

@@pepepicapinto543 I don't know if that's an error necessarily as sometimes people can be dicks, especially in stressful situations, even if they're normally not like that.

[@tsyf1]

I thought Stannis might've been walking with Jon just to talk to him, but he's characterized as believing himself a king that is above others, so it doesn't really make sense for him to follow Jon really.

[@edwinlundgren3456]

Sansa picking a lock with a cork screw is my highlight of the season.

[@devanman7920]

hahah its all such nonsense

[@zer0953]

sahnsa is the smartest person arya knows, so...

[@cassiusfelix2805]

Hey where there's a will there's a way

[@shauntaylor9717]

In all fairness still one of the more realistic things

[@johnr797]

@@zer0953 it's been a while, did she actually say that??

[@mechistarvily5078]

the most stupid thing of season 5 is how they ruined Littlefinger character. He is just genius in the books, and the way he just gave sansa to Boltons in the show is just... ugh

[@kuromyou7969]

And then he's all, "bUt i LuVs hEr". 🙄

[@myaccount4699]

I didn’t understand that move at the time I was watching. Why would he give away his leverage? Sansa was basically his ticket to rulling the North, as he was already the de facto ruler of the Vale, and his stablished goal since the beginning was to become king. Also, Sansa knew he killed her aunt. I didn’t read the books, so I thought I was missing something, later I understood it was just bad writing.

[@kylesutcliffe9468]

⁠@@myaccount4699In the book, Ramsay Bolton marries a girl named Jeyne Poole (Sansa’s friend at Winterfell who’s mentioned a few times in season 1) but they tell everyone she’s Arya Stark and the only one who recognizes it isn’t actually Arya is Theon (Reek by then). Little Finger’s plan is to give both the Vale and Winterfell to Sansa by keeping her identity secret until the perfect moment. The fact he gives Sansa to the Boltons makes no sense besides D&D not having to hire someone who looks kinda like Arya to play Jeyne Poole

[@suburbanburrito210]

@@kylesutcliffe9468 why spoil it bit?

[@jbatts834]

@@myaccount4699I wouldn’t call him the de facto ruler of the vale, but that’s why he needed Sansa, she was the key to him becoming the de facto ruler of the vale which then opened the doors to winterfell.

[@benwillis5840]

Some opinions I agree with, others I don't but no point arguing those. My thoughts on a few points: 3:09 Bronn goes along because Jaime takes everything he's earned away from him. 7:03 I read this as Arya not actually hating The Hound despite her saying she does. 8:44 Arya speaking common might make sense as it's a port city with lots of foreign merchants. Presumably it's called "common" because it's used by most people. 8:53 Daenerys says "Lannister, Targaryen, Baratheon, Stark, Tyrell: they're all just spokes on a wheel. This one's on top, then that one's on top, and on and on it spins, crushing those on the ground". I believe stopping/breaking the wheel isn't about stopping is crushing those on the ground, it's about stopping with the 'correct' ruler at the top. Either way, a wheel that is stopped can move again. A wheel that is broken cannot. 11:00 old locks are pretty simple, any piece of metal could open them. Sansa knows Winterfell, she's probably done this before. 13:50 When asked how long "The Long Farewell" takes to take effect, Qyburn says "Difficult to say. Hours, days, it depends on the subject's constitution." Bronn suddenly sucumbs to it when he becomes aroused which suggests to me that something like the heart beating faster might set it off. Myrcella has an emotional moment with Jaime which could have caused it to take effect. I don't think we know how long Ellaria has it on her lips before removing it but her constitution is probably stronger, she may have built up a tolerance to it and she remains calm. As for Jaqen/The Waif, I'm not convinced they're always the same people behind those faces.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Right on! Thanks for taking the time. The only one I'm inclined to agree with is The Long Farewell. That does make complete sense.

[@shannond7437]

Yeah there are some “CinemaSins” choices (actually not because they often fake ignorance or flat out alter/omit scenes) but always interesting to see perspectives

[@liampowell5014]

The Hound/lying one was pretty obvious, surprised this channel even counted that as a mistake. Jaqen even says Arya’s lying to herself.

[@OneOnOne1162]

The problem with the "breaking the wheel" thing is that the writers have her say that and have that be her goal but they never bother to actually explore what the fuck that means in practice to her. Presumably it means establishing some sort of truly absolute monarchy which is more centralized (like maybe with a standing, royal army) and where she has absolute power so no house is capable of ever capable of challenging the ruler again but... that's just inference. The writers never both to go about laying out what it means and that by itself is bad writing deserving of a spot here, imo.

[@kristianfagerstrom7011]

Old locks, while simpler than modern, was sturdy, and there is no mechanical way to open it with a corcscrew

[@BubblegumCrash332]

The biggest mystery of season 5 is where did the Bolton hounds disappear to while chasing Sansa and Theon. We should all be concerned about these interdimensional hounds roaming around Westeros

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

They started teleporting before it was cool. Those darn hipster-hounds.

[@BubblegumCrash332]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 those hounds are ahead of the curb.

[@DennisOfDragons]

They teleported to Dark Souls 3

[@cassiusfelix2805]

I wouldn't worry about it

[@ramsaybolton9817]

Season 6*

[@constantinetranos2225]

The seeds of GOT's inevitable downfall were planted in S5. A Storm of Swords was adapted in two seasons cause was huge and worked. A Feast for Crows & A Dance Of Dragons were essentially one book divided in two parts and their storylines were butcherely adapted in one season. This is what Martin meant when he said the show suddenly stopped following his template.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Straying too far form souce is always gonna bite you in the ass I guess.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

I think GRRM really tried to work with them and give them a chance and they wanted to sell out and rush an inferior product. S1, 2, and 3 were amazing, then S4 was really good, season 5 slightly less good, S6 had some cool moments, then S7 and 8 were like a cheap parody knockoff of the once brilliant show.

[@ahealthkit2745]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 It's really obvious that the show starts to degrade in quality as soon as they deviate from this alleged template w/ season 5.

[@redhorsepapi]

Downfall started in season 4. There were already cracks in the dialogue.

[@thefuturesix]

You probably hurt Brans legs, stretching so much on some of these. 😂

[@IAmAzarath]

There's also the fact that the Kingsguard was sworn to protect Margaery as well, they didn't need to wait for Tommen's order. She also could have ordered them to protect her herself. So the Faith never should have been able to take her.

[@cw8867]

Also margaery being that squires key witness who "supports" his claim lol If she just said "that never happened" then he has no "evidence"..

[@ultrabigfella]

2:00 Bro she's telling him to steal some, come on. Some of these complains are you just not using your brain.

[@postpunk6947]

Still stupid and totally out of Brienne's character

[@kylerk806]

Yeah I like these videos as like 95% of the time they’re right but sometimes there is some stupid shit like this that flies over his head.

[@bait5257]

And that's not easy either. If not people would steal horses like mud

[@TorgoFraNorgo]

Seriously. He's starting to approach CinemaSins level of stupid with some of these.

[@JasonHamilton00]

Aria didn't hate the Hound, that's why she was slapped. She cared for the Hound even if she didn't know it, jaquen Hagar knew

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

How did he know? How can he slap?

[@JasonHamilton00]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 he just knows, some kind of many faced majik I guess

[@HOTD108_]

​​@@CultureVultureMedia1 He knows because Faceless Men are good at spotting lies. He slaps with his hand. This is all self-evident.

[@topknot01]

The snow kinda forgot that it melted.

[@pepepicapinto543]

10/10

[@ivanschweizer9146]

Wait, so Theon throws someone from a great height and they die, and right after both him and Sansa throw themselves the same height and are just fine?

[@twylla5]

Plot armor babeeeey

[@AmyEugene]

Didn't they land in a snow drift? I know in the real world that would still be enough to break bones, but.... yeah.

[@twylla5]

@@AmyEugene in the books the same scene happens (with a different character) and Theon lands on her and breaks her ribs.

[@jacopoabbruscato9271]

In the books Miranda does not exist and Theon along with Jeyne Poole (impersonating Arya, Sansa is not at Winterfell at all) jump onto a huge mound of fresh snow, set up by the fierce blizzard going on for days at that point

[@darthvincor]

I always assumed they jumped in the water. What water? I don't know.

[@Zakeru750]

Just a detail, but Valyrian steel (at least in the books) is stated to be very powerful and magical and it is specifically said it can indeed cut through armor.

[@thegreatpage5912]

I think Arya was a bit conflicted about her feelings towards Sandor. I guess after all that time they spent together he kind of grew on her.

[@notme-sm6zb]

Exactly. She didn't hate him.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Definitely, but when she said that she hated him, she meant it. If Jaquen can see through that, then he's not detecting lies, he's seeing absolute truths, which is more of a superpower than a skill.

[@youtub-fj8mu]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 fair point, but detecting lies the way he does is also a superpower lol

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@youtub-fj8mu bottom line is it was poorly portrayed, I think. They could've let Arya get away with details, little by little to show her progress in becoming a better liar.

[@kuromyou7969]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 just because you say something emphatically, doesn't mean it is true or you believe it.

[@megamovieman101]

I remember when Season 5 came out I was nervous because I heard they were abandoning the books, but I watched with hope anyway and... the first major red flag was when Barristan died, the whole scene was rushed and predictable. Then it was the Sand Snakes, those goddamn Sand Snakes... then it was Stannis doing a character 180 and burning Shireen, which honestly very nearly made me completely abandon the show. Season 6 felt like a slight improvement, but I still couldn’t get the bad taste out of my mouth, and 6 still had issues of its own. Then 7 and 8 happened and... the show is dead lol

[@shaysplanet]

i just finished the episode where barristan died and i’m taking a break. everyone i know told me the show doesn’t get bad until season 8 (and some said season 7) but this season has felt so off to me and barristan randomly dying is the icing on the cake.

[@christiangwenner6384]

Barristan was a gouty grandfather who dandered around town without armor. As a consultant he was completely useless anyway. His only good deed was dying in time for Dany to realize she needed more decent advisors.

[@christiangwenner6384]

Stannis would always end up the way he did. Read the books again!

[@jimbrewer5048]

I still can’t believe they gave us the masterpiece of hardhomme having Jon snow kill a white walker and the night king staring him down. Then later Jon screams at a ice dragon while arya kills the night king. Like wat lol

[@andrewboxall2945]

Whilst i agree about a lot of errors in the later seasons, I think you are falling for the cinema sins trap a little - a written character flaw (e.g hubris, over confidence etc) does NOT make it a writing error. A lot of these "errors" are character flaws not writing ones

[@AverageAlien]

But some of the character flaws can be caused by crappy writing and are inconsistent with the entire character arc

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

Exactly. Ive only just started watching the vid(ep 2) and hes critisizing arya for throwing the coin away? Thats a character flaw. Thats arya not believing the coins powers after it appeared to fail her( in her mind). This dude seems to be writing and presenting a lot of nonsense for views

[@christiangwenner6384]

@@niranjanrajesh1058 More than that, why shouldn't she throw the coin away. It's only worth was, that every man from Bravos would take her to the house of black and white. Once she arrived there, it served its purpose. It's like a concert ticket. You might keep it after the show for sentimental reasons. But, if you throw it away, after you passed the security, you're just fine.

[@Necroxion]

Small confession: I didn't really mind the "hiding in the crypt" part in The Long Night on paper and in a vacuum, mainly because the Stark corpses are sealed in stone tombs However, Jon already saw the wights King Crimson through hardened wood in Hardholme, so they had no excuse at this point Also, human bodies can't flow like tsunamis, so a well-organized shield wall would've actually held against wights if they followed the laws of physics - this is still worse than hiding behind the actual castle walls and setting the moat on fire + scattering dragonglass caltrops, and the actual formation in the show only had 1/5th of the frontliners use shields, and 1/10th use shields big enough to cover themselves fully

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Very good points.

[@Necroxion]

@Anjelica Snorcket yeap, there's that too, which is a fair point Although to be also fair, Hardholme proved that there were at least 50 that could King Crimson through hardened wood, so Jon or the wildlings should've remembered that considering it was what led to Hardholme getting overrun

[@Necroxion]

@Anjelica Snorcket but then you wing it so hard that any other army with brain cells could immediately cut you off from your own castle, destroy your siege weaponry, and even break your formation without much effort xD

[@Necroxion]

@Anjelica Snorcket the Battle of Castle Black though

[@shannond7437]

I would argue that Jorah & Daario finding Dany’s ring in the Dothraki sea is the most absurdly impossible! 😹

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

It is, and I would have included it, but to be fair, it's not an inherrent inconsistency.

[@asszudemi3650]

After everything they went through together i believe its safe to say that arya was clearly lying to herself when she said she hates the Hound

[@theelderworm9134]

Right? I've seen people say 'but she was telling thr truth' when obviously the point of the scene was to show that she didn't hate the hound

[@corriblehunt4554]

You stretch a lot of these 'errors' to pad out your run time. You're bang on about most, but Arya getting hit for saying she hates the Hound is just a way to show us that she doesn't really hate him, even if she thinks she does.

[@souls.7033]

George RR Martin has said in an interview that because some people have read the books and some didn't, but DD wanted to appeal to both (and contain suspense) they changed many things, however that leads to problems in the end since the books were foreshadowing something which was later changed in the series. Which is why I believe the show's overall quality went down season by season.

[@christiangwenner6384]

Except it didn't. You just have to change details when adapting something to a different medium. Don't worry about George. He knows. You don't.

[@someperson9998]

Season 5 is by no means great, but 90% of these 'errors' aren't errors. Even if we say it's just misleading or bad writing, it's not even that. For example, Jamie saying that he has to do it is a clear sign of emotional attachment that he wouldn't want another person to do. Arya was conflicted about her feelings towards the Hound, which is why she was struck. Her throwing away the coin is an intention story moment which isn't meant to be logical... she's a child... would you rather have perfect little robot figures as the characters? Stannis and Jon were just going for a walk as most people do; I don't see why everyone has to be moving to a location. Brienne being excessively rude to Podrick is the literal purpose of those scenes, so I don't know why it's labeled as an error. Even things that ARE errors, like a horse stopping early, or a Valyrian steel sword not quickly cutting a log, do not change the story in any way and are likely just practical limitations of television.

[@martino5742]

Doran was a prince in title but a King in current American slang. In one afternoon, after having a covert rescue operation by a rival family sprung on him and learning of a murder plot against the innocent member of that powerful rival family under his care (who was also his potential daughter in law) coming from his own extended family, he struck a deal that would avoid any casualties, mend fences with their powerful, royal rivals, connect his house to theirs by marriage, and gain them a seat on the king’s small council. He turned an inter-kingdom incident into a beneficial treaty and a legitimately more peaceful relationship with the family that had been by far the most malignant to and hated by his family/nation during his lifetime and had become the most powerful family in the realm. And as a bonus, their second most competent strategist recently murdered their most competent strategist (who was also the most powerful man on the continent, singlehandedly earning them the power that his children were very liable to fumble) and fucked off across the sea, putting the martells in an exceptional position to gradually seize political power with this deal. But then fucking Ellaria and the fucking sandsnakes just had to fuck it all up

[@KevinSmile]

Season 5 was alright, my first time watching it I don't remember thinking it was much different. Season 6 is when I noticed a marked change.

[@A7XKoRnRocks1]

Season 05 was very boring, Season 06 was far better but tbh everything after Season 04 is meh, gets worse in Season 07 and 08 is the worst.

[@AverageAlien]

@@A7XKoRnRocks1 pretty much this. 5 was boring but ok for the most part, 6 had more interesting plots but terrible characters already, and 7 just lost it.

[@ryko4914]

I think at this point, there is a lot of "cherry- picking" of so called misstakes when they really are just bad explained like for example the voting scene at the night watch. I think its not that unusual for those kind of groups to have certain wired traditions.

[@AverageAlien]

That's how it is. The further back you go with GoT the better the seasons get. So S8 is easy to hate, S7 is still easy to poke holes in and hate, S6 is ok for the most part, maybe a few nit picks here and there

[@turrican4d599]

@@AverageAlien Uhhhh, no! S6 and S5 were HORRIBLE!!!

[@AverageAlien]

@@turrican4d599 yeah, after rewatching those, they're awful

[@anweshchatterjee7595]

​@@AverageAlienno they're not. They aren't the first four seasons, but not S8 either. They're good enough.

[@constantinetranos2225]

The Breaking of the Wheel ideology has two definitions: 1. In Daenery's mind, she envisions the wheel as the infighting between the different noble houses for the throne, which she will put an end, by establishing enternal, unchallenged Targaryen rule. 2. Rulership is the duty of a competent leader, NOT a birth right.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Strange then how she, in S7, was so against talking about her plan for succession. Lazy writing at it's finest.

[@constantinetranos2225]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 Intentionality doesn't always come with proper execution.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@constantinetranos2225 Yeah, but what's the intention then? I feel like you're dodging the question, haha :P

[@constantinetranos2225]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 I explain my intention in my first comment. A lot of decisions actually have an interesting blueprint in the final seasons which comes from the outlines Martin gave them, however they did a pure job at fleshing out those blueprints.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@constantinetranos2225 I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing anymore. Perhaps I was unclear when I expressed my confusion about what Daenerys meant about breaking the wheel. I only meant to say that it doesn't seem like Dany intends to break the wheel at all, but simply put herself on top of it. Couple questions: - What is the definition of stopping the wheel? - What is the definition of breaking the wheel? - What is Dany's plan of action in order to accomplish the breaking of the wheel?

[@melancholyman369]

I like to think that at the end on season 4 the show got cancelled and the rest was fan made, gotta comfort myself somehow.

[@skarsson]

Love these! Can't wait to have the big compilation of all 8 seasons to go through with my friends, haha

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

The rewatch value we deserve.

[@nikkinvin]

Sansa: I saw you at the wedding, bowing to the king." Brienne should've said "Yes? From where did you see me? Oh right, you were sitting at his f-cking table!" goddamit

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Oh, come on- the Brienne ‘ducks into the bushes & comes back out’ was absolutely a highlight!

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

It's definitely up there with her breaking a log with a sharp sword.

[@joefrank3439]

Arya getting stabbed like 10x by the Waff but not only surviving, but running around and fighting. That was BS!

[@Ianspiegel]

The worst thing about season 5 was, until watching this video, I honestly forgot what happened in it.

[@GwalaGangCass]

Jesus by the time you get to season 8 the video is gonna have to be 3 hours 😭😭😭😭

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

25 to be precise! Already on the channel since a long way back :P

[@GwalaGangCass]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 time for a binge then

[@anichkan179]

I love you for the poison reference to the Emperor's New Groove

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

I’m glad you noticed! My all time favorite Disney film.

[@MikeTheIdeaGuy]

Most of these are INCREDIBLY knit picky and you can find in ANY show you watch on tv. Even good shows. But yes 5 out was the beginning of the end.

[@MagnaMater2]

For me the show died with Season 4, Season 5 only confirmed it was dead. - In season 4 I hated the whole Nightking-thing, and my favourite wildlings, the Thenns, were ruined, and though that was just a little change, both were already boding ill for the northern plotline. Bloodraven was underwhelming, too. And at the end it badly lacked Jaime's most important Tysha-Confression that made Tyrion make the detour on his flight to kill his father in the first place. It was visible already at that point they had stopped taking care about making sense.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

That was perhaps the stupidest change they made. Seeing as they pushed the dialogue to be more dramatic for the sake of it in later seasons, why not keep the Tysha-twist as it was?

[@praetorian3902]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 Maybe because it would require screen time to introduce a new offscreen character (that's already dead thus the audience isn't gonna start caring right away) and more scenes to show us in a believable way that Tyrion cared about her, if they try doing that in one scene - I believe it will feel contrived thus fake and unnecessary, a bit like the "Tyrion/Jon : I love Daenarys" thing. Besides, they have to have some sort of payoff for the death of Joffrey's whole situation so they used Tyrion kills Tywin.

[@twylla5]

@@praetorian3902 The Tysha plot was already introduced in S2 tho. I think the writers probably realized Tyrions popularity and wanted to keep him a "good guy" and the Tysha revelation is what really starts his downward spiral in the books.

[@cassiusfelix2805]

If you stop the wheel it can start back up again but if you break it, it can't be started back up again because there's no wheel.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Right, that much is clear, but what was her plan in practice? What would she actaully do differently from previous rulers? :O

[@AverageAlien]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 burn them all!

[@christiangwenner6384]

​@@CultureVultureMedia1 Free the people! That's what she tells herself all the time. Are you watching the show drunk? That she firmly believes that she is unlike any other highborn ruler, that she is chosen to do everything better, but has no plan for how to do that, is the whole joke of her character.

[@kalibhakta8640]

Have to quibble about Jaquen hitting Arya when she says she hates the Hound. In the books, there's a point where Sandor Clegane sort of stops being on the list of names she recites every night. She's kind of over him.

[@danielbridger1261]

I feel like some of these are credible, most are a massive stretch, and some just outright aren't correct

[@BintyMcFrazzles]

This was the greatest show I had ever seen. Out of everything D&D did, the worst thing was turning the greatest character in all of TV history (IMO) Tyrion Lannister, into an idiot. The the first 6 seasons, I thought, "If GGRM kills Tyrion, I'm gonna lose my shit", to me thinking in the last series, "Meh...." and "Shut up, Jon!"

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Indeed. I don't think of all the major characters, Jorah is about the only one that wasn't buthered by the end x)

[@twylla5]

I think their mistake was that they wanted to keep him a "good guy" and didn't want to explore his darker side like in the books. I think the omission of the Tysha revelation was really the shot in the heart for his character.

[@jayneedoh5684]

I know I'm a bit late here but, where did melisandre get the horse to leave Stannis' camp? The guard had just told him all the sell swords had left with all the horses.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Haha, good point. I would think that high-ranking people have their own personal horses, with the accompanying squires though, which would explain why her horse in particular was left alone. On the other hand, we never see any such squires... Anyway, that begs the question, what happened to Stannis' horse? That ought to be the most well-protected horse of all, but Stannis walks into battle on foot... Perhaps it dies from the cold. Guess we'll never know! Definitely could have added that, thanks :D

[@markcannon8522]

Only watch season 1-4. Pretend season 5-8 never happened

[@JohnnyRaven69]

Nah, season 6 is amazing imho And it literally has 2 the best episodes in the whole series. That's not even an opinion, it's a fact.

[@AlexA-wb9pr]

breaking the urn for the vote makes sense because it shows everyone that the urn is empty and that all votes ended up beeing counted, I do agree that its a bit of a waste tho especially for people living in such a rural area away from most trader or craftsmen that could replace a vase if u ever ran out

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

I found season 5 boring as hell, I only liked episodes 8,9 and 10. I wasn't even a book reader yet when this season came out but I understood why book fans were complaining. I started reading the books while waiting for season 8 to air.

[@gfilmer7150]

Most of this Season is pretty much filler

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

@@gfilmer7150 agreed

[@gfilmer7150]

@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Not to sound like a book purist, but if we got the plot lines and beats from AFFC and ADWD, maybe season would've been less boring

[@christiangwenner6384]

@@gfilmer7150 These fillers are the backbone of GoT. If you just want to watch some action popcorn cinema, there's plenty around. The first half of season 5 was peak GoT.

[@gfilmer7150]

@@christiangwenner6384 Oh wow, strawmaning my argument with the action addiction crowd. The character building scenes in Season 5 don’t build any character, it just wastes so much time. No Jon becoming cruel, no Dany becoming cruel, especially no Tyrion becoming cruel, nothing of note happening with Arya, none of The Northern Politics, and Dorne is so bad it’s baffling.

[@aryastark575]

Arya WAS lying about hating the Hound. She was in denial about bonding with him while they traveled & admits later when she played again that she had taken him off her list & did & DIDN'T want him dead. That's why Jaquen said she's lying to herself.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Yeah, but how did Jaquen know? From looking at her sincere face?

[@kalin397]

Ughhhh face dispenser...who came up with those shennanigans

[@christiangwenner6384]

If only people would observe something thoroughly before they criticized it pettily. Ep. 1: Jon already does understand Mance, because he knows him. No more explanation needed, no more added conversation, if you'd watched the show halfway closely. Ep. 2: Aria throws the coin away, because she reached her destination. Yes, it's very powerful and precious. But only because it makes every man from Bravos help you get to the house of black and white. That's it's single purpose. Once you're there, you simply don't need it any more. Ep. 2b: It's not "conveniently" returned but magically. That's what they do. Ep. 2c: Podrick is told to steel a horse. She says it somewhat rude, because he doesn't get it. Just like you. Ep. 2d: Brienne instantly knows, Littlefinger won't let her leave alive. She just get's it. Unlike you. Ep 2e: Bron has to go, because otherwise he doesn't have a wife or castle anymore. He's obviously blackmailed. Well, not obvious enough for you, obviously. Ep. 2f: Tommen is absent because his mother wants him to be. I wish yours had wanted you to pay more attention to things, you plan to talk about later. Ep 2g: They can build or at least maintain a gigantic wall of ice, but don't know how to replace a ceramic urn? Hell, the nightswatch is doomed. Ep 3: In order to become another person, you have to tell a convincing story, bevor even thinking of using a different face. So yeah, calling it the game of faces is perfectly fine. Ep. 3b: People are tortured and killed and raped in this series, but a typical medieval way of learning by the stick is "uneducational"? Wow! Ep 3c: Not showing awe or excitement when facing a celebrity is exactly what the sparrows are all about. Later when she does her walk, it's regular people in the capital. Of course they react differently. Ep. 3d: Cersei may be too innocent as she walks around town confronting members of the faith. But exactly this arrogance and thoughtlessness, this feeling of superiority is the essence of her character. That's exactly what the show wants to tell us. Ep. 3e: The prostitute thinks an unwashed, unshaven, smelly midget dressed in rags most likely has no money? How on earth does she come up with that assumption? Oh boy! Let's stop it here. I'd better let you go and ruin someone else's party.

[@ConstanzaRigazio]

If you only stop the wheel, it can start to move again, if you break the wheel, you're dismantling the whole system.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Exactly, but what does that mean, practically speaking? Like, what does she intend to actually do? It's a metaphor, but for what policies or actions? Does she want to instill democracy? Clearly not. Taking over the world? Well that's certainly just more of the same, no?

[@ConstanzaRigazio]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 A lot of other people gave you really good replies to this question already. I agree with them.

[@femalehitchhikersguidetoth8990]

Another one: Stannis sends Davos to Castle Black so he can get more help to aid Stanis' war, but we just see Davos get sidetrack by the drama happening in Castle Black, with Jon's death and all, while his commander which he was utterly loyal to ask him for his urgent help in a live-and-die battle with clearly running out resources, and instead of getting that help and returning to him, he is still there battling the traitors in Castle Black as his commander and all his army were defeated. He does not even ask any news from Stannis or seem concerned?

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Oh yeah shoot I never thought about that! That's actually the worst haha!

[@antoinerigaud_]

Every error in season 5 = they did not follow the fucking BOOKS !!!

[@jac1111]

Did anyone think that the big guy who frees Tyrion at 8:31 was going to be Strong Belwas, or even just a shout out to him? I was sad that he never made it into the show.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Indeed. I can see the omission though. Jorah, Barristan and Daario to some extent sort of fill that role in the show. Lots of dudes by her side in the books, especially with the Meerenese nobles...

[@jac1111]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 true - I suppose I just wanted more of everything in the absence of new book material 😭

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@jac1111 D&D: "Can we interest you in Briaime, Bran not doing shit this whole time, Arya never using her faces, season 7, Aegon Targaryen or some bad pussy?"

[@jac1111]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 😭😭 #triggered

[@CrackingCody]

How is the fact that Valyrian steel being really strong an "error".....?

[@CrackingCody]

And Jaquen striking Arya about the Hound LITERALLY SHOWS SHE ACTUALY DOESN'T HATE HIM HOW CAN YOU BE THIS DENSE THE SHOW LITERALLY SPELLS IT OUT FOR YOU, YOU DERP

[@CrackingCody]

Yes, because snow doesn't stay in the shade of walls or anything, especially when we literally see that Winterfell is still surrounded by TONS of stow. Enough that soldiers' feet sink into it.

[@CrackingCody]

The Boltons don't need to know who killed Stannis to confirm that Stannis' body, missing part of his head, is Stannis.....

[@crpwrply]

While there are certainly many errors in GOT, differences from the books, bad tactical decisions in war/fighting scenes, I feel this video on season 5 is mostly nitpicking and some may not make sense to you but do to others...but as always I like watching GOT stuff so I watched it anyway! :)

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Jaime and Bronn's trip to Dorne (especially them wearing soldier disguises) was so stupid it was like Monty Python and the Holy Grail type schtick.

[@Drahko12]

Jorah did a fantastic dark souls move of rolling to kill the boss 😂

[@benjaminallen3493]

Melisandre left Stannis because she knew he would lose, she didn’t expect half his army to up and leave after they killed Shireen.

[@sanfloo_]

08:56 I mean, no. Stopping it would mean it could start again, breaking it would keep it from starting again

[@matthewpelletier6900]

One could argue that the common tongue being spoken around the harbour in Braavos makes some sense. Perhaps it's the international language of the sea, like English in our world. Arya definitely should have learned Braavosi and everyone around write have also known it, but I can believe that The Thin Man and other regulars in that area would be fluent in the language of Westeros

[@Roboturnerlol]

4:55 switching back and forth from Season 5 King's Landing and Season 2 King's Landing really shows you how much life they sucked out of the picture

[@LadyDoomsinger]

I believe the difference between "stopping the wheel" and "breaking the wheel" is that a broken wheel cannot start turning again - stopping it is potentially only temporary. Also, the whole thing about Arya speaking Common seems to just be a matter of convenience for the sake of the audience. It's one thing to have a few characters say a few lines in a fantasy language for a few scenes - quite another to have a main character require subtitles for a majority of the season.

[@made-line7627]

I actually don't dislike Dany's comment to Missandei, and thought it made sense. Missandei's a former slave, and *would* know who would suffer the most if Dany's rule/reign/conquest fails; the former slaves.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Yes but victimhood does not equal expertise. A mistake the writers doubled down on hard (same with Sansa).

[@campbellsoup93]

I'm a mite confused as to how the valyrian steel sword cutting through things is an "error". Valyrian steel is hella sharp and extremely hard. It cutting a log and another sword is consistent with everything else we know about it. Now, it being "recently sharpened"? That is definitely an error as Valyrian Steel doesn't need to be sharpened.

[@lunaris5054]

Her Sword is not Valyrian Steel i think thats the Problem thats its as sharp as Valeryan steel but its only normal steel

[@alessandrocejwokkkk]

@@lunaris5054 it is, it was given to her by Jaime, one of the two swords forged with Ice’s metal. Forgot the name, oathkeeper or widows wail, can’t remember

[@IAmAzarath]

@@alessandrocejwokkkk Oathkeeper, named because she was essentially using it to keep the oaths both her and Jaime swore to Catelyn.

[@duhman3649]

The worst thing about S5 was what Mannis Baratheon did to Shireen like bruh, the guy is best known for eating rats in besieged Storms End, Stannis would never burn his daughter alive to avoid food shortages and poor weather conditions

[@Crappy9922]

Exactly. They don't call him Mannis for nothing, man loves his daughter to bits, next to Sir Onion. Smh.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Stannis was my favorite character. It sucks what D and D did to him. Book Stannis would've died for his little princess. I guess GRRM is so heartbroken over the series he will never finish the books.

[@DJNITON]

Or he is committed to restore the reputation of GoT.

[@christiangwenner6384]

Book Stannis kills her, too. George isn't heartbroken. He's partying and doesn't feel the need to finish the books. Maybe in part due to his "fans" whining and polluting the internet the way you just did.

[@KravMagoo]

@@christiangwenner6384 Exactly. Just posted a lengthy comment on another video about how as much as D&D, and HBO, and even GRRM himself all bear guilt for how things swirled the commode, it was FANS who killed GoT, because they 1) LOVED the show so much that they never held the show runners' feet to the fire, even when tons of shite had already drowned the fan; 2) INSISTED...across social media but primarily here on YT...ON ATTEMPTING TO GUESS THE PLOT, not only from one episode to the next, but one season to the next (GRRM said this effectively killed his desire to finish the series since nearly all of his plot threads had been exhaustively bandied about online); and 3) SPEWING INFANTILE FAN SERVICE WISH LISTS all across social media and YT, resulting in the farcical Clegane Bowl and other absurdist nonsense. HBO should have given D&D walking papers after season 4, especially since Dumb & Dumber said publicly that the only reason they wanted to film GoT was so they could shoot the Red Wedding. They immediately lost interest after that, and it showed. GRRM wanted more seasons, the fans wanted more seasons, and HBO sure as hell should have wanted more seasons (GoT was easily the company's hugest ever money-printing machine), but they allowed the selfishness of D&D to run the show into an early and ignominious grave. A well-deserved pox on EVERYONE'S house.

[@mariav287]

7:07 she does not hate the hound, thats why he hits her, she is lying After the time she had with the hound she stoped hating him

[@marknelson55]

If memory serves, that first scene mentioned for episode one starts with Jon kneeling to Stannis atop the wall, in blatant contradiction of Season 4 Jon's refusal to kneel.

[@peteperkins3859]

SWEET! Now do seasons 6, 7 and 8...

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

In the works my friend!

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

If you turned it into a drinking game, you’d die of alcohol poisoning before season 5 finished!

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@OcarinaSapphr- This is a good idea. Might have to steal that haha

[@everythingzone]

7:03 - I think this was intentional, as she at this point in the story does not truly hate him anymore.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Of course, but she doesn't know it. She still thinks she hates him, but that's obviously not the problem. How can Jaqen spot a lie if the subject is convinced they're telling the truth?

[@frauleinhohenzollern]

But Arya didn't hate sandor, she came to respect him after he looked after her. It's why she didn't kill him when she could. It's why she cleaned his wounds.

[@ViolentMessiah666]

I never understood why season 5 got such a pass from a lot of people. The writing was objectively terrible, the whole Dorne arc made no sense & was just awful. The dialogue was clunky, & characters just stopped acting like they had for the first 4 seasons just because thd plot needed them to and don't even get me started on what they did to the One True King. I do have to disagree with one thing, they weren't running on the fumes of the source material. At the start of season 5 they still had 2 full books to adapt but they cut about 60% of the story, even tho book 5 is slightly longer than book 3 which was so long they split it between season 3&4 they tried to squeeze books 4 & 5 into season 5. If they'd gone at the same pace as season 1-4 they would've had material til season 8 & would've also given them more time to flush out a proper ending.

[@patrickkilduff5272]

Why is Dany saying to Missandei that she 'knows who will suffer most if it all falls apart' weird to you? She was a slave her whole life....if it falls apart slaves will suffer the most....it makes perfect sense. It doesn't mean Missandei would have the most insight on the matter...but the statement still makes sense.

[@jabunzama]

Some of these points are spot on and some of them are really subjective. Arya and the Hound thing, c'mon dude, they were traveling together! The poison thing isn't entirely implausible, Cersei walked through to meet with High Sparrow at a MAKE-A-WISH style camp. Those folk aren't gna just suddenly beat her up with HS hanging around. I guess critique is warranted but being hyper critical to the point of cynicism is a bit unfair especially when your critique has a lot of errors itself. Be careful about being critical and trying to ruin the show. It was a great show and could have been greater with more attention to detail etc, yes, but still a great show

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

These are fair points. I suppose putting details like Cersei's visit up there amongst errors like Sansa picking locks with cork-screws isn't perfectly balanced. Errors nonetheless though, I'd say. The Arya and the Hound-thing is strangely misunderstood by many viewers. It's not about her hating him or not, it's about Jaquen being able to detect a lie on the face of someone who thinks they're telling the truth.

[@AbyssalManta]

Some good points, sure, but A LOT of these is criticizing characters for being less than rational, ambivalent, duplicitous, as humans are, and not in contradiction with their personality. So, do you mean in-universe Tactical Errors, or "Writing" errors? Like, I can totally see Arya as a spoiled brat who never had to worry about wealth or common sense in her life. She's AMBIVALENT about The Hound, after having been rescued by him, which is why, indeed, she gets slapped after claiming to hate him. So the waif is not a perfect avatar of her clerical order's values. Surprise, no clerics are. Daennerys making decisions on spurious and irrational criteria? I'm shocked. The Boltons did not admit to not seeing Stannis's body. They admitted to not seeing who delivered the death blow. Also, Stannis seemed like he was inspecting and strolling through the wall, not going anywhere in particular. Finally, the prophetic, mystic Red Priestess who speaks to flames and shit is in possession of knowledge she couldn't have gathered by natural means? Really?

[@made-line7627]

Just to clarify, are you stating that a Valyrian steel sword _shouldn't_ be able to break through a log?

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

I guess I could have made myself more clear. It should *cut* the log, not break it.

[@Arldavis]

And also WHO would use a sword to cut a post that has horses' bridles tied? They are not loosely tied, or the horse could get away on its own. Cutting the post just leaves horses tied to a broken post *facepalm* horses are not smart enough to "shimmy" their tied bridles to the sliced end and then get away. Uggghhhhh

[@DANtheMANofSIPA]

Its heavily implied that Jaqen strikes Arya when she says she hates The Hound because she doesnt actually hate him and might feel regret about leaving him to die

[@peaceandloveusa6656]

I believe it makes sense that not only is season 5's error video shorter than the rest, but it also has the weakest arguments. Several of the "points" you make in this video are wrong or simply overlooking what everyone else saw in the show. Arya not hating the Hound was such a good scene and perfect character development. Breaking the wheel instead of stopping it was on brand for her character, a great line, and made sense for her character. She did not want to "win" the Game of Thrones, she wanted to *end* the Game of Thrones. The cracks were definitely starting to form in season 5, but it was not nearly as bad as this video makes it out to be. If anything, this video shows it was actually a pretty good season, when strawman arguments are needed to even make a somewhat lengthy critique of the show. That said, I watched the videos in reverse order, which I am glad I did because of this interesting trend I saw in that order. Much like the unraveling of the show I experienced watching seasons 6-8 in order, I saw the unraveling of valid arguments in these videos going from 8-6 in reverse order. It was, in a way, a beautiful symmetry that enhanced this mini-series of critiques even better. If this was intentional, it was beautifully done. Otherwise, I imagine you just thought there would be a video worth of content for each season, but when making season 5 it just felt too short to be it's own video. I feel having seasons 5 and 6 together would have helped resolve this issue and have 3 lengthy and equally objective videos instead of 2 that were iffy and 2 that were really objective. Either way, I watched and enjoyed all of them, so well done!

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Thanks a lot for the kind words! Glad you liked the video series :) With regards to your objections, it's clear what they wanted to say (Arya didn't hate the Hound anymore & Dany wants to change things permanently), it's just that the way they did it didn't reinforce that sentiments as intended, if you do stop to think about it. Arya didn't hate the Hound, but how did Jaqen know that when Arya herself believed the words coming out of her mouth? Dany wants to "break the wheel", but what does that mean? Not in theory, practically speaking; what does she want to do differently from other rulers? This question is never answered as far as I can see.

[@peaceandloveusa6656]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 Great questions! To the best of my understanding when first watching the show: For a real world answer to a work of high fantasy, and how I personally took it, I will offer the real world ability to read people. With it, it is not hard to tell when someone is saying what they want to believe versus what they actually believe. Williams (Arya's actress) seemed to have been directed to make these subtle signs when delivering the line, because I saw them on my first watch through. Sure, I had the meta ability to see her journey, so I knew it might not be true anymore, but it was how she said it that confirmed it, not Jaqen's response. Williams is a very talented actress and this scene is one where I think that really shines through. Those who are not finely tuned to pick up such nuance would miss it, which is most of us, so why have the actress include the nuance? The only reason I can think of is because that was how Jaqen knew, and this was just another example of GoT going above and beyond in attention to detail. For a fantasy answer to the question, The Faceless Men are ordained by a god that grants them frankly supernatural abilities. Knowing who is supposed to die, face stealing/duplicating, and causing illusions, to name a few. So, maybe lie-detection is among their god-given abilities. It would certainly explain why they have the lying game in the first place. The "Dany smash" line is a lot less subject to speculation, IMO. We were constantly shown how she would rule, and how that would differ from the status quo of the world. She wanted to ban slavery, stop what she considered war crimes from being the norm, grant more rights to the common folk, topple class systems, etc. All of these goals are in direct conflict with how the world operates, meaning simply stopping the wheel once she is on top is not enough. She needs to break the entire foundation of the system that allows the game of thrones, and all other things she hates, to thrive. Sure, they could have given us a 12 minute monologue about what exactly she intends to do once she is on the throne, but the snarky remark fit the scene a lot better, and I do not see what would have been added by elaborating. That would be telling, not showing, and we see what she means the entire story, so it would have been redundant. It would have also been out of character, seeing as Dany is the Mother of One-liners, Khaleesi of Sass, and Breaker of Conversations. ;-)

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

@@peaceandloveusa6656 Yeah I can see the Arya one potentially being as you say. Jaqen might have been able to detect her efforts to want her words to be true, despite knowing they're not. However, I'm not sure there's enough backing in the books to say that the faceless men have divine powers :P Blood-magic or sourcery, sure. With regards to Danaerys breaking the wheel, the things you bring up still don't offer a fundamental change. Banning slavery and granting rights is just policy. If she really wanted to shake things up, she's introduce a completely new governing system, like democracy or something. It would be really tacky, but it would certainly break the wheel. Her being another monarch with her own agenda doesn't break diddly :P

[@peaceandloveusa6656]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 I have never read the books, wont until if/when they finish, but that's fair. I don't know how much magic is attributed to them in the books, if any. Dany did seem to be another monarch, which is a problem, because every monarchy can be different, so that might have benefited from some clarification. We never saw anything in the show that suggested she wouldn't be a monarch with her own rules, which would have been easily undone when "the wheel kept rolling." So I have to side with you on that one that it would have been nice to know what she would have done in the specifics of breaking the wheel. :)

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

​@@peaceandloveusa6656 This has been a very sensible conversation. Thank you for breaking the trend xD Seriously though, thanks for sharing your perspective! :)

[@wab_wab]

This video feels padded. Half of these are arguably consistent

[@wildhunt6350]

The idea of Brien's valeryen sword breaking other swords in pieces when striking and piercing armor does make sense. Its always said that valeryan steel is the best steel in the whole world of GOT. So roasting it isn't fair. I can stand behind that but the rest of the season really starts going downhill.

[@ricola1658]

i think mostly everything wrong with Bronn is due to the fact that in the Books Sir Ilyn Payne went to Dorne together with Jaime Lannister. There also Jaime talked with Payne about his relationship with Cersei and so on, because of the fact that Payne is mute. In the Show however Bronn accompanied Jaime, due to the fact that the actor of Ilyn Payne got cancer and so could not play him in season 4 and 5. So i forgive the writers for these mistakes.

[@mayroblack1777]

Jaime never went to dorne with Ilyn Payne in the books… in the books it’s a different kings guard that goes after dark star for cutting myrcellas face… Jaime went with Brienne in the riverlands because of stone heart

[@Matthew-Anthony]

Stopping the wheel and breaking the wheel are NOT the same thing. Stopping it could mean that it is temporarily not moving. Breaking the wheel ends it once and for all.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

What was her plan to assure this outcome? I genuinly still don't understand what she was trying to do that was any different from previous conquerors.

[@danielle4976]

Ep. 7 I don't think Ramsay knowing this was an error. Didn't Theon tell Ramsay about it? Wasn't that the whole thing he snitched about? Also if we pretend this is a Theon/Reek chapter in the books (I know it isn't as the plot has diverged from the books) it does show how Theon/Reek believes that Ramsay knows everything.

[@TheWeirdKitty]

I'm barely five minutes in and I feel like this is more like things you didn't understand rather than errors the show made. For example I'm at 4:59 and you're talking about how cersei isn't flocked by people in one scene but was in a different one. In the first scene it's clear that she's trying to be somewhat discrete, on top of the fact that where she goes is full of sick/hungry people who care more about that than royal asswipes who allow it to be that way. The next scene is extremely publicized and everyone wants to watch since it's previously said royal asswipe being forced to walk down the street naked as a form of punishment. Context matters a lot in this show.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Yes, and the show missed out on its own context, which is an error, no? There's no justifying a character choice based on the convenient result of their actions, seeing as it's the writers who choose whether an action should have its natural consequence or not. In Cersei's case, the choice and the consequence went against her character and the previously established world building.

[@T3noir]

God Arya’s whole braavos arc is easily top 3 worst for me. Absolutely horrible to slog through knowing it barely has a payoff

[@msdisco85]

everyone accepts the evidence against Loras because he has a birthmark on his body, without anyone acknowledging that any servant who helped dress him might know that and spread that

[@Sophiex2024]

Especially because the guy literally squired for him... squires traditionally help them with armour and stuff. The fact that none of the Tyrells even attempt to point out that there are lots of ways someone might know about a birthmark, just like "Okay guess we're screwed then".

[@TaeSunWoo]

2:43 Valyrian steel is lowkey a cheat code? Brienne lowkey says it herself in the books methinks

[@vyloznik]

With the candle I think it’s implied that they lit it in the tower so that whoever was trying to help Sansa would come out of hiding and then they ambushed her

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Maybe. Too bad it's never shown, or even suggested in the show. Leaving the audience to fill in the gaps by assuming things arbitrarily is extremely poor storytelling.

[@Chaoxide666]

Arya is struck for saying she hates rhe Hound because she's lieing to herself, when she's actually greatful for what he did for her.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Yeah, that much is obvious, buu only because we know that through context. Jaqen has only her face to go by, and in that moment, she is being sincere.

[@Chaoxide666]

@@CultureVultureMedia1 i believe he can see a person's true self, not just their face

[@luvmusl2163]

I just realized from rewatching the shows and watching all the vids on the internet, HOW THE HELL DID BRON (not calling him sir!) SURVIVE??? He even told tyrion that he would kill babies for the right price. Plus all the double dealing he did in the end just for self enrichment. He doesnt have a selfless bone in his body!

[@MeghanBelhumeur]

As hilariously stupid as it was, I might be able to explain the Mycella / Elaria poison situation. Obreyn was known as a master of poison, hence why he was questioned by Tywin regarding the poisoning of King Joffrey. Perhaps he shared some of his wisdom with Elaria and helped her become somewhat immune to it? I say only somewhat since her nose started bleeding as well. Either way, poorly explained by the writers, stupid in execution. Great video, mate!

[@GiggityxGamer]

8:35 Dany takes Tyrions advice here specifically because she is trying to determine if he is a logical and intelligent advisor. Tyrion gives her sound advice so she accepts it and this helps her to start trusting Tyrion. Not sure how that is an error. 9:25 I always just assumed it was not impossible for wun wun to get on one of the bigger boats. not ideal, but he could fit. Also, if he couldn't fit I dont think we're ever told at any point that giants would freeze in that water 11:30 Its not an error that Brienne believed Renly to be the rightful king. That is simply a phrase used commonly in the show that doesn't always refer to blood rights. 12:10 she doesn't "u-turn" she says pretty clearly she wants to punish Sansa so she will hurt her in places that will hurt but not affect her ability to give Ramsay an heir 13:00 The kill or save here is very different. Jaqen owed Arya his life, so he offers 3 names as payment. In complete contrast, a payment was made the house of black and white for the faceless men to kill someone. Arya neglects her responsibility to carry that out and kills another instead who was not sanctioned by the faceless men, due to it being a grudge Arya still carries, further showing she isn't letting go of her identity.

[@Cybipulus]

A lot of the errors weren't actual errors but rather human factor etc. Still a nice video.

[@mystique5113]

Many of the stated points are not mistakes. 😂😂

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Care to give an example? ;)

[@akimmel6941]

I tell people that the last great line, and the place to stop if they don't want to watch the bad writing, is when Greyworm says what he was afraid of.

[@maltesko-nw4nf]

12:14 she obviously didnt mean to shoot the arrow, but did it accidentally, because Theon pushed her.

[@chrisf9156]

Entertaining, but I disagreed with many more of these than the S8/S7/S6 or think there are rational explanations that could happen off-screen and still work. Ramsay finding out about the woman with the candle, for example. He could have tortured a bunch of people to figure it out, or someone ratted her out. We don't need to see that for the effect of it to work and still be believable. But the cracks begin to show by the end of the season when their changes to the source material proved to be more for shock value than anything the characters would actually do.

[@CultureVultureMedia1]

Fair input!