Every Gamer Has Had These Arguments At Some Point

[@Wakslag]

I’m so annoyed Daves “You obviously never seen Indiana Jones 4” banger flew under the radar. Credit where credit is due.

[@markrodson1609]

Dave said it just as I was reading your comment lol, timing was perfect

[@Eminator-5.0]

That joke was good but im so fkn annoyed with Daves screencheating argument

[@nickhamblin8179]

2 years later & that was my 1st instinct! Lightning quick from Dave. 😆

[@mikes5637]

"I don't get why you're a grown man still playing videogames". Like it's a hobby I'm not entitled to have anymore.

[@YuniorGamboa]

Damn right

[@BJGvideos]

Or "grown woman" which seems to be delivered with even more exasperation.

[@joeeldridge3810]

Oh my god this one really gets me, I think these people think we’re just playing sonic or paw patrol.

[@MichaelaMyers505]

What makes it even more silly is that the vast majority of games are rated 18 and over. so grown adults make up the main demographic for gaming yet are criticised the most for actually playing.

[@nineten9011]

@@MichaelaMyers505 tried to explain that to my friend he used to play a lot and watch cartoons and anime etc now he acts like everything is childish and beneath him.

[@UnfitFern]

What about the classic "You can't pause an online game!" no matter how many times you tell people, they never listen.

[@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220]

I am one of those idiots unfortunately...

[@richard3921]

I was going to post this, its difficult to explain to my mother that I can't pause an online game.

[@poppamoses446]

This is what first popped into my head as well

[@thestonegoose]

That's not an argument though, that's just fact. Like evolution! Lol

[@YuniorGamboa]

Exactly. I was waiting for one of them to mention it

[@SwordInTheStorm]

Rosie's brother was so out of order, it was her birthday game!!!! what a travesty.

[@wakkjobbwizard]

Wait are they related or is this a joke that I don’t understand

[@nylonnerves8422]

@@wakkjobbwizard Go check Professor Juice. You might find some answers there. Also great content.

[@cruelwraith2games926]

This reminds me of me and my sister I was always player one and my sister was always player 2 party cuz I was older than her and I was better at games than her

[@cruelwraith2games926]

@@mrmagoo-i2l yeah in her dreams she could never beat me at any games

[@marhawkman303]

@@mrmagoo-i2l We should at the very least ask @Caddicarus for his POV. :p

[@jayball879]

Dave: screen cheating is OK Everyone: no wonder you have no platinum trophies

[@deathbykonami5487]

Screen peaking is not cheating, the other player just needs to git gud

[@copyrightboy4225]

I cant believe Rosie's brother. It was her birthday game but he managed to argue that he play it first. Thats an outrage.

[@hughK321]

You have any older siblings..?

[@Geion]

@@hughK321 I'm the older sibling and I wounldnt have done that.

[@RajatSharma-fs2cx]

I'm the older sibling , but my parents always talked me into letting my brother play it first

[@otterpoet]

"Video games aren't Art..." yeah, that one gets under my skin.

[@devilmaycry09dante]

otterpoet I used to have a loud argument, even write a personal blog article to prove video game IS art.

[@devilmaycry09dante]

@@mrmagoo-i2l Usually, I would just show them everything about Okami to shut them up.

[@koloth5139]

I suppose this one can really be dependent upon the game. We all like to point out the best examples of what we think represents the art of video games. Games with powerful stories. Incredible graphics including some highly stylized designs. Games with an emotional impact. But typically when talking about video games as art we tend to ignore the bad games out there. The Anthems and the Battlefronts. Games that are clearly deceptive products of a large company only seeking as much money as they can wring from the consumer. I think that video games are an art form. But like anything it can also just be a product. Not every book is a work of art, nor every movie, or even every painting. Similarly not every game is a work of art.

[@devilmaycry09dante]

Koloth There is also bad movies and bad stage plays out there, still art my friend. Beside, the gameplay mechanics are also forms of art imo

[@devilmaycry09dante]

Lesser Spotted Mugwump. I played both Viewtiful Joe. Not really my cup of tea but yeah I do appreciate it.

[@dantaylor3128]

Nath: “games shouldn’t elicit those reactions” Also Nath: NBA 2K15

[@andrewbrown3304]

OH ITS A FOUL. ITS A BUTTON FOUL. That video is amazing.

[@dantaylor3128]

andrew brown ahaha it’s hilarious

[@TheHouseofCain]

I was thinking that all the time he was talking lol

[@andrewbrown3304]

Dan Taylor I loved one on onesie and I think that one is probably my favourite. Rage Nath is brilliant.

[@dantaylor3128]

CA1N0 93 the video played out in my head😂

[@nicholasparent753]

I came here for an argument! Oh, I’m sorry, this is abuse!

[@travim4314]

No it isn't.

[@ElBribri]

If you want to look up, you push the analogue stick up, if want down you push it down, if you want to look left, you push it left, if right, then right...easy and simple, end of discussion.

[@ElBribri]

@@Danarchy3 moving a camera around shouldnt involve hard work...if it does, then its the wrong way to do so

[@lonestar6709]

_"Don't give me that, you snotty faced heap of parrot droppings!"_

[@trummelbach6065]

3:18 - _"You've obviously never seen Indiana Jones Four."_ - *Nailed it!* :-D

[@RedBairnMedia]

"During the war..." I grew up with joystick games and in particular joystick flight games (X-Wing / TIE Fighter). So I'm definitely with Nath on the pull back to look up and push forward to look down.

[@hedgers2005]

I always think of it as my neck, I tilt my head back to look up, why wouldn't I pull back on the stick? 😊

[@TallxNinja]

Yay we’re not alone lol

[@eLJaybud]

Makes total sense, you tilt your neck backwards and forwards, but you turn your head with your neck to go left and right, it's two different movements and that's why it makes sense. Those 3d controllers would make you twist the stick, but this system predates those so... left and right push.

[@Brockleheezy]

I think Y inversion is an age thing. Computer simulators and systems before Xbox and PlayStation seemed to have inversion as the default. I think that’s why we get so emotional. If you were raised on inversion it irks you to see all these kids telling you it’s wrong.

[@jenslaughingfox9869]

But this argument exists purely because of methods of control. I will never understand people who invert their controls on pc games using mouse/keyboard. But if you are using the joystick and playing some flight simulator, it's only natural that it's inverted, or in that case it's actually not. You pull the stick down to fly up. I have a great example of how you actually use both control methods, without probably even knowing it. In gta 5, when I'm on foot and let's say I'm shooting, I pull the mouse up to look up. However, when I'm flying, I press down on the keyboard, to fly up. It's so natural, it needs no explaining or understanding, it's just how it is.

[@mikkdc]

Any gamer who says they never look at (or have never LOOKED at) their opponents screen, in local split-screen, is a DIRTY LIAR :P

[@JuliusR2002]

Never played local split screen. So I am fine

[@mikkdc]

@@JuliusR2002 I haven't played a split screen game in a LONG time but some of the most fun gaming moments for me, came from playing GoldenEye and TimeSplitters in splitscreen back in the early 2000s and yes... I DID always sneak a look at opponents screens.

[@JuliusR2002]

@@mikkdc i like your honesty, but i was born on march 5th 2002

[@mikeokeeffe4692]

@@mikkdc yes

[@mikeokeeffe4692]

@@JuliusR2002 never played local split screen? Thats not fine man, thats sorta sad - more so on the game industrys behalf because its a unique way to play thats bordering on retro these days... so..... but kudos on all the youth. Thats priceless so enjoy that mess, Julius. Ps cool name. Pps get a n64 with goldeneye and find an old pre hd tv at bargain price and invite your friends over. Or MarioKart... the original... Im so olddd ))

[@StevefromPR]

"It's just a game" sure, just like soccer and other sports. And we all know how worked up people get over those.

[@kevinthatcher2376]

Soccer? It's football, oh it's just a game ;)

[@thestonegoose]

@@kevinthatcher2376 it's soccer in the US and in Ireland actually. Speak for yourself sir!

[@marhawkman303]

Heh, my family says this about EVERYTHING they think is unimportant, and will double down on being obnoxious if you object.

[@koloth5139]

It is a typical dismissive comment of anyone not invested in what you're invested it. "It is just blank" can be said about literally anything as a way of dismissing the emotional investment of another. I remember getting really upset about losing a baseball I personally just bought during practice. And yes I got the "it's just a ball". Except it wasn't just a ball, it was MY ball purchased with my meager funds. I honestly didn't even like baseball all that much but I particularly didn't care for it after having my feelings dismissed like that. Just remember being dismissive can either make people double down on something or it can make them come to hate the thing depending on what emotions are being dismissed.

[@thestonegoose]

@@mrmagoo-i2l and what of Gaelic games? Have you even heard of them for that matter?

[@indyscribable]

I used to purposely skip the 1st 2 save slots in case anyone else plays (particularly younger kids) and saves over that slot by mistake

[@munky342]

Smart man. Has happened to me plenty. My 100% run on Ffvii got overwritten by my sister. I still get bitter when I think about 1998...

[@thestonegoose]

You possess wisdom well beyond your years, regardless of whatever age you are. You are a sage!

[@indyscribable]

@@munky342 Damn tht sux...My FF7 saves were always getting corrupted and I hated it...Eventually I jus started alternating between 3 slots so if one got corrupted I at least didnt have to backtrack as much...Ended up being a thing I do with all RPGs now 😆

[@archmagusofevil]

When I was younger, I accidentally overwrote my older brother's Dino Crisis save because I went through the menus too fast. I was terrified to tell him and I still feel bad about it.

[@DutchZippy]

One of my most frequent ones was "'Who has to use the crappy third party controller?"

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

"Its just a game" - iTs JuSt [insert anything that matters to anyone at all] "Turn it of NOW!" - i NeEd To SaVe iT FirST!!! "Well save it NOW!" - i NeEd tO fInD a SaVe poInT!!! "Pause it!" - ItS aN MMO!!! ... I could go on, but I won't...

[@JCsCouch]

Please do its inspirational?

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

​@@JCsCouch haha Maybe someday :P

[@richhartnell6233]

The worst is The Who’s the good guys in an rpg? Like the legion stormcloack debate in Skyrim

[@marhawkman303]

WORST is when you find out they only wanted you to stop playing so they could have a conversation about something they didn't really need to talk to you about.

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@marhawkman303 Or when they make you walk away to help them with something they're not actually ready to do yet, and you wind up standing like a lump for 10 minutes until they actually need you. 10 minutes you could have spent finishing what you were doing.

[@chawa623]

HELL YEA ROB!! people that say ohhh it's just a game piss me off, but what's funny is you can always use that same sentence against them and see how defensive they get

[@eLJaybud]

It's just a game.

[@pocketmonsterhuntr]

exactly

[@brent8407]

"Videogames cause violence" is a good one as well. They must have played a lot of videogames in the medieval period then.

[@rowanwinn4723]

Given the level of cruelty and bloodshed in medieval Europe, one can only assume that everybody was playing Mortal Kombat 24/7. They called it the dark age because they didn't have electricity left over for lighting. (Seriously, though, violence is in human nature. Don't like it? Try teaching people self-control and communication skills instead of giving them more reasons to be angry. You'd be surprised how much of a difference it makes.)

[@SnorriSnibble]

@@kosmique True, but everything CAN cause violence, depending on the person. Still, you don't hear anyone saying "Relationships cause violence" or "Sexual desire causes violence" for example. Because those are things that 99% of society have, so it has no use for distancing yourself from violent people and putting yourself above them.

[@brent8407]

@@SnorriSnibble I mean I get that videogames can be argued to be a non-essential aspect of life and if people believe it to cause violence then I can understand the aversion towards it. Thing is though that this debate basically comes down to the nature or nurture argument, are people genetically determined to be violent or do they become it based on what they see and experience around them? Videogames can definitely have a bad influence in that regard, but imo this will only apply to people who are unstable to begin with and who have a hard time seperating fiction from reality. There is no way that a mentally stable person would go inflicting damage on others simply due to games, it can be a trigger for the not so mentally stable, but so can books, tv shows, movies, relationships, whatever, if we were to ban all that then what would be left.

[@victordennett]

PLOT TWIST!!! It turns out that Rosie is Rob's long-lost younger sister, and they figure it out in a big cinematic flash a la FF8!

[@marhawkman303]

Does this mean Caddicarus is a clone of Rob?

[@eLJaybud]

More like Luke and Darth! 🤔🤣

[@the3nder1]

@@marhawkman303 That explains the obsession with Metal Gear games.

[@Infamousx1027]

It would also explain the naming pattern

[@Insane234]

What about the arguement of Gameplay vs Graphics. Some believe Gameplay is far more important as its an interactive experience... And some wrongly believe graphics are most important

[@dixonbutts800]

Facts. Would play Tecmo Bowl over Madden 20 any day of the week.

[@axmancaye]

It's the "How old are you? You still playing video games?" It gets me all the time.

[@erlindaalba1682]

"I am not pushover. You're a pushover!" - Rosie 2019

[@aonghusofaolain8686]

"Yeah, I'm a pushover" - Dave

[@xenofranz]

I really like Rosie's segments. It's extra funny when Rosie is burning Cadicarrus. Hope them all the best!

[@andylosh38]

Rosie's brother is Cadicarrus? I never knew

[@epicfail9271]

That feeling you(Rob) have towards games that Dave wants to find a middle ground on is animosity. The animosity drives us to beat the game, but also erodes us, sometimes undoing all of the progress that has been made

[@2majortony]

Most of the old games were inverted by default and then somewhere along the line, it switched. I've played inverted my whole life because that's how I was taught to play by the games I played.

[@wickedwitt04]

Same here brother. Flight simulators on PC, then the first generation of First Person perspective games were inverted by default, most likely as a logical jump from those flight sims. When Halo and newer generation games started deviating from Inverted it was so frustrating. I still get grief from some of my friends and certainly my children and their friends for continuing to play games inverted. Inverted gamers unite!

[@2majortony]

@@wickedwitt04 it's crazy how much grief we get for playing, in my opinion, the right way lol. Though I'm glad to hear that it's not just me getting the grief

[@lm4585]

Inverted does not feel good. Its confusing because it goes away the brain works.

[@2majortony]

@@lm4585 I actually think that "normal" does not feel good. I can't even navigate a game at all if it's set that way. It's not that inverted is my preference, it's that I can't play any other way. My mind doesn't allow me to play un-inverted.

[@thecasualcanuck4590]

Just want to point out, this didnt pop up at all in my sub box. That was close, I need me my tuesday checklists.

[@vandapanda1324]

The Casual Canuck same damn KZbin

[@PlayStationAccess]

Have you hit the notification bell too?

[@thecasualcanuck4590]

@@PlayStationAccess yes

[@vandapanda1324]

PlayStation Access of course

[@tzgaming-vh9vg]

It still isn't there for me Weirdly

[@SarthakRana95]

I totally get you Rob. Every single Friday feature I've watched.

[@justaname9330]

Oh man, I FELT it when Rosie said "who gets the first save slot." Had this one so many times as a kid, my younger siblings always wanted the first save slot even when it was my games. I didn't try to take it when it was one of their games, but every time when it was one of mine, they'd try to take it, even copying my file to another slot and erasing the original to try to take it.

[@aasimala887]

up until now, I believed that screen cheating was wrong and should by law, be a punishable offense But Dave has convinced me that screen peeking is not that bad after all. Thanks, Dave.

[@captainroll]

That Dara O'Briain sketch is SO funny!! 😂😂

[@Prakuza]

I've had the "It's my game!" argument with my older brother all the time. It happened so much that he came up with an argument that the phrase "It's my game" has no meaning...because I overused it...because he always wanted to play my games first. He still has never played Final Fantasy IX because I hid it so I could make sure I was the first one to play it.

[@martincampbell4211]

The "it's just a game" motto is how I feel about football hoolagins, doesn't matter what game it is there's no reason for assault and property damage.

[@kristenlindner2890]

Any other inverted players here, I stand proud as a “dirty inverter” so Nathan I agree with you.

[@dividedbyxir0]

"If you play on easy mode, you're not playing the way the developers intended." Screw you! I wanna play the game the way I wanna play. And I wanna see how the story unfolds. Besides, I don't think rage-quitting is the way the developers intended me to play either.

[@battlep0t]

If the developers intended us to play the game a certain way, there would only be one difficulty setting.

[@PottsV1]

I'm kinda split. People should play at the level they feel comfortable at. Personally I always make a first playthrough the default level as I do think this is what the designers intended the game to be.

[@aoifehart554]

Don't like people who shame you if you play easy.. If that's how I want to play that's how I want to play.. I'm not making you play it on easy, so why does it bother you???

[@rarabunfunny3611]

Yeah, i agree with you. For example i prefer playing duke nukem on the "lets rock" difficulty. Why? I just don't think its as fun on a harder difficulty. Ofc i can beat it in hard difficulties, in fact i think everyone can (if they put their mind into it) but its just torture for the sake of torture. Idc about the boasting rights i just want to kill some time and enjoy myself. Also i agree with what the commenter above me said, if they wanted the game to be played on hard mode then why add easier modes?

[@rowanwinn4723]

Rage-quitting is to be avoided, yes. And besides, there are always people who physically *can't* act and react at the speeds and with the precision generally required by the higher difficulty levels. That's no reason to deny them the chance to enjoy the game.

[@TalesOfBrian]

🤣 Dave saying screen cheating is a skill go figure! People like him were the reason we did system link for halo or built cardboard dividers!

[@oliverbath6028]

Rob’s had many argues with the chat in livestreams 😂 **’oof’ echoes and slowly fades away**

[@olivialeyba9296]

Rosie’s story hit me hard in the childhood feels. I had to deal with 4 other sibling but my brother and I had to share one save file because my older sister said so. Which was difficult when we first played Kingdom Hearts. We had to play together because that was the rule. I too was always humble player 2

[@rarabunfunny3611]

I was the evil older sibling, my sis wasn't allowed to play til i beat the game! (unless there were multiple save states)

[@Xylasider]

I'm with Nathan. Inverters unite! I liken it to being right or left handed. One way just feels more natural.

[@fullmetalhaggis]

I just get infuriated when games developers don't give players the choice to invert or not.

[@Foxster170176]

Agreed, I cant play a shooter/flier if there's no inverted option, its just more natural to push down to go up and vice versa.

[@GenerationNeXt6]

“It’s just a game” Well you play to win the damn game, so if I get angry it’s because I want to win.

[@mentalpopcorn2304]

Screen cheating is definately fair because both people can do it. My problem with it is it can suck the fun away depending on the game

[@ASLTheatre]

Mental Popcorn many early multiplayer games encouraged screen peaking.

[@eLJaybud]

You have no honour!

[@ASLTheatre]

eLJaybud and you have no soul!

[@in4mus85]

If you're that good, screen cheating just helps others to not get complete roasted.

[@XxAceFreedomxX]

Yes! I am so with you Nathan! As a fellow inverted player! I don’t mind having fun arguments with my non inverted friends. But totally attacked for being inverted every time. Thank you for standing up for our inverted rights 😆!

[@TallxNinja]

They get so frustrated yet they play flying games inverted and have no qualms with it or at least my friends

[@rarabunfunny3611]

@@TallxNinja idk about you but while i like inverted controls in plane simulations but i hate them in fps's

[@undefinederror40404]

Who gets to be player one: The person who owns the console? Is there even a discussion to be had?

[@lindlekindle]

Exactly

[@bryancadents3559]

When you're frustrated with a game and a parent says, "If it's making you so mad, why don't you just turn it off?"

[@SapphireDragon357]

"Because then it'll take even LONGER to beat it!"

[@1988mophead]

Hey Nathan, I play inverted also because that's how I first learned how to play games all those years ago. Don't feel alone.

[@gingerincgaming9721]

Camping is meant to be used when using a sniper class.

[@gravynolastname3786]

I think it was playing Starfox 64 so much as a kid that caused me to have to play all games inverted

[@ashleycarvell7221]

Nathan: 'why would you invert the x-axis?!' Also Nathan: 'if you had a lever on the back of your head you'd pull it down to look up'... YES Nath, but you'd also pull it left to look right

[@clairvoyantmole8668]

Good point!

[@Dakuu75]

The biggest video game argument I had was with my parents, for years'n years when ever I'd ask for a new game they'd respond with: "But, you have games, why do you need more?" -and for a long time I didn't know how to counter this argument because I was a stupid child. Until one day, I came up with the analogy: "Games are like books, how many times can you re-read the same book before it gets boring, twice maybe 3 times?" (This was back when online multiplayer, MMOs and DLC weren't a thing.)

[@undefinederror40404]

>looking at videos Hey, a PlayStation Access video I haven't seen yet? This must be really old! >clicks and sees date ... Nice! Notifications where u at?

[@Brad_Evans92]

For some reason this didn’t show in my sub box . I seen the thumbnail on the home page , just a heads up to let you guys know

[@hughK321]

Nathan, you are right. Inverted is correct. Always. Any of us from the generation when the only "camera view" controls was from flight sims, will totally agree. Should be "default" (if the word is still allowed)

[@BJGvideos]

If I turn left I expect my character will do likewise.

[@anthonynorman7545]

If it's a flight simulator, then the inversion should be the default.

[@feluk-]

Why though

[@TheHouseofCain]

It's fine to play games on the easiest difficulty, most of the time people can play them on harder modes but there's nothing wrong with just wanting to relax with a game and play at a nice pace. Especially if you don't have as much time to play anymore but you still want to finish games

[@McRazzler]

My mates mother cut his PlayStation power lead with a bread knife once after an “it’s only a game” argument. He threw a block of butter over the front door and smashed the biggest box of cornflakes ever, over his stepdads car in retaliation. After kicking a football off it a bit first. Those were the days.

[@leecormack2413]

Being a low level playing with high levels and getting killed by one hit by enemies,then being told to be better. Very many arguments.

[@steadfast78]

The Surge 1 was brilliant at setting your “look up default”.

[@666Husky]

You pull up an airplane - that’s how I learned it, when I was younger.

[@koloth5139]

Clearly not an early PC gamer. Inverted controls with a mouse are extremely counter intuitive. The argument almost kind of makes sense if controls had evolved that way from dual joysticks. But they didn't, camera controls evolved in PC gaming first and mouse look set the standard. Up is up with a mouse it is logically consistent with the way you use a mouse in a 2D space and a 3D space. When camera controls started being translated to dual stick controllers the obvious control layout was to stick with up is up. This layout is simply the way most players learn which is why it is the default setting for most games.

[@666Husky]

Koloth I am an early PC gamer. That’s the system I started with. I used a joystick.

[@Emma-R]

Koloth but even before early PC there were analogue sticks. I had a BBC model B home computer and played flightsims on it with analogue. When I played my first FPS: Medal of Honor on PS1 I immediately choose the inverted style as I was used to that. But if you switch styles you will adjust how to play really fast. It’s not a big deal really.

[@BJGvideos]

@@666Husky Yeah and with a stick it makes sense. But not when you're using almost any other control scheme.

[@666Husky]

BJGvideos it does, if that’s how you learned it. I can play games “inverted” and “normal” though. I don’t think it’s a big deal.

[@AnimeFanXVII]

When a video has "argument" in the title and starts with Rob, you know it's a good video!

[@brianwallace2038]

Screen peaking is a mechanic

[@FrankCastleGaming]

Hi, inverted player here. Just wanted to say, Nate, I get you. Ok, carry on. Good day.

[@TheDarkLordOfBass]

I work in a sports bar. I love telling distraught fans, “Don’t worry, they’re going to do it all over again next year.”

[@paullatham8486]

I'm a mixer! When I'm controlling a character look up is up and look down is down. When I'm in an aircraft I then use inverted. I like to think of it as 'Direct' and 'Joystick' controls

[@joeschmo3844]

Four words: “Which ending is canon?”

[@skylinezan]

Nathan, I totally agree with you. I am glad I have someone on the Access team who has the same view on the whole view thing. My sons play games with the non-inverted view and they never understood why I play using the inverted view.

[@MatthewRachansky]

I feel like Nath, Mike Channell from Outside Xbox and Ian Higton from Eurogamer all just sit at a bar, thinking about the good 'ol days when their inverted controls weren't an aberration, commiserating about what once was. "Ah, to be young again" says Mike. "I am young, I'm only 21" says Ian. *Nath and Mike glare at Ian*

[@DevilStix333]

I love Outside Xbox

[@Bish186]

The whole inverted arguement turns on its head when you bring up ace combat.

[@lazygam3r789]

the best is "oh this is the first time playing (insert game name)" right before wrecking you

[@yannyb8329]

Hearing Dave & Rosie talking about playing hide & seek reminds me of a game me & a mate played in the later Tony Hawk ps2 games.... hide & seek. Player 1 had a couple of minutes to get into a difficult to reach/spot position & lock off the camera. Player 2 then had to skate / run / climb to find the hidden person. Hours of fun that game within a game.

[@gazza141]

I can’t understand people getting upset over football. The players get paid waaaaaay too much to kick a round bit of leather around an oversized garden...

[@gazza141]

Danarchy3 some sports have some validity... what does football bring to the table?

[@christianmcbrearty]

Rob, I've been watching your videos for years and you never look a day older I swear

[@GTDGAMINGTILLDEATH]

It's not just a game in case of video games just because We have CONTROL and We can change the outcome that's WhY emotional attachment and investment is more.

[@262cj]

On behalf of Rosie, this comment section is now battle ready against the vile forces of Rosie's older brother. His transgressions shall not go unanswered.

[@moy8500]

The problem with screen cheating is the past. Now the argument that if you don't like it don't play local is valid. But in the early days there was just no other option. So I was really frustrated with opponents who peeked at my screen.

[@Amondevil88]

I totally agree with Nathan. That's exactly how I feel about inverted. I have to change every game to inverted. I think early games of Air Combat (or Ace Combat now) ruined it for me. XD

[@Nfoster1916]

Sonic heroes!!! Sonic heroes. Man, that was such a fun game. Wish each team as different levels completely; but just rehashed same worlds.

[@scottbullard1914]

When I played Syphon Filter 2 deathmatches, which was with someone sitting next to me, I used to tape an album to the TV to block each others view. Yes, my TV back then was small enough to just span the length of an album. It made for spectacular knife kills from behind.

[@omegagilgamesh]

"You never shout out I HATE THIS MOVIE, I HATE IT!" You clearly weren't with me when I went to see the Eragon film.

[@Maigeru]

Great video, guys! 🤣 My wife and I always argue about whether or not synths (or androids depending on the game universe) actually have a consciousness and should be treated with the same respect as humans... the debates can get pretty heated lol

[@wray2real]

Not tryin to hear it. I went into the settings and changed my y axis to invert automatically for every game.

[@Rash808]

I'm with Nathan, inverted is the natural order of the universe. :D

[@skylinezan]

And it should be! Hahaha

[@skylinezan]

@@mrmagoo-i2l, I guess it has something to do with language too. In my country, we may use X to say no or anything equivalent on our sms and whatnot. But one thing is certain, Japanese games tend to use O for yes and X for no. Heck, even my PS4 console uses that.

[@SapphireDragon357]

Whatever the buttons are labelled, bottom button means yes, side button means no/cancel. If they wanted it a different way, they should have made the PS controller differently! :P

[@NOMED2gamers1podcast]

We called it "Screen Watching" when growing up

[@shmookins]

7:35 What Rob is saying. That is mindblowing. I didn't know any game does that. That's a genius solution because I still don't know which is inverted or and which is 'normal' or 'default'. It seems it differs by game.

[@nameplayer1667]

I'm with you Nathan, inverted is the only way....when I look up I tilt my head BACK no "forward"!!🤔😎

[@privateeromally]

Put your hand against your face..... Now, which way do you have to move your hand to look up? Do you move your hand up or down? inverted all the way!

[@mikkdc]

Now I'm left wondering how many times Rob was told "It's just a game" while going for those Oxide time trials.

[@hathus5536]

I was always the gamer between me and my older brother but there was an occasion or two where he would be interested in a game and I would happily take the player 2 spot like Rosie but our arguments always came from when he "just wanted to play the game" and would skip all the cut scenes...YOU CANT PLAY THE GAME IF YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON

[@buuam7555]

When a new console comes out " why would you get another one?" Dx

[@jankogo]

You should totally do t-shirts: "Dirty everter", "It´s not JUST a game," "Screen peeker", "Save slot no 1 is mine".

[@Thevvie]

I have to agree with Nathan on this one. I've always play with inverted Y-axis because I used to fiddle around with model planes myself where pulling the stick towards you would increase the altitude and pushing the stick would make the plane go down... and I applied that same thing to my head... I have to pull my head back to look up and push it forward to look down. I like the idea of games having to determine YOUR default setting by just testing what you'd do when moving the stick to perform that action... which would be automatic invert in my case. When it's on a split screen you automatically peek at someone else's screen area. It's kind of second nature. However, I do mind when people in the same match start to screen snipe when your adversary is streaming gameplay.

[@billzevgitis1453]

Rob described me just now

[@leo.oliveira.trailers]

I don't like when my friends try to convince me that to play games, I have to play in the PC. They say "Games were made to be played on PC. Mouse and keyboard is better than a controller. You should get games for the pc." For crying out loud, I like to separate games from everything else I do in the computer. I like to have a device made specifically for games, I like the controller and how it feels and how you move it in a natural way instead of the mouse's weird movement on screen. And I like the exclusives for the PlayStation. I'm not telling you how you should play, so leave me be.

[@keeganbourke8888]

Except if they were made for PC they'd all be put in PC first and a lot of the big titles wouldn't be console ports

[@aoifehart554]

"What do you mean you're watching someone else play the game? Why aren't you just playing it yourself??" Same reason you watch sport on TV Karen!!

[@Zantex3000]

I'm in camp Nathan. For me, I think it's a remnant from playing Super Mario 64, where the camera was an actual camera man you controlled with the C buttons. So the directional input is the direction he went in, which is why when you press up, the cameraman goes up but the camera angle goes down, if that makes sense.

[@endorbr]

"When I was playing any game and would have... an emotional reaction to the game." We all know what you're talking about Rob. XD

[@HectorPunch]

Not sure if it’s just me but even with notifications on, this didn’t show in my subs feed or my notifications! Had to check the channel while worrying if there was a Tuesday check list or not this week!

[@TickleEyes]

“Why are you crying? It’s just a plastic bag flowing in the wind”

[@Stuck_on_pause]

Justice for Rosie!!! You were wronged Rosie, I too was the younger sibling so I feel your pain! I used to argue with my brother and/or parents about who was going to occupy the TV. Growing up in the 80s we only had one TV so it was a battle to play anything.

[@ASLTheatre]

If a video game can elicit an emotion I would call it art. In the end it is a game but real emotion can be brought from it.

[@jimbeam8152]

The argument we get into all the time is when we are playing VS fighting games and who gets the left side. I remember renting soul calibur over and over to practice combos and specials, then go to my friends place and be forced to adapt on the fly to backwards Dpad inputs. It drove me mad!!!

[@ryanrothrock7051]

I feel your pain Nath. I tried to explain it to my college roommates just as you explained it, and they just looked at me like I was crazy.

[@z_rex46]

What about the sibling “It’s my turn to play the game!” argument? My sister and I had that a bunch when we were sharing a console. I had to deal with that until I bought my PS3 for myself and got to put it in my room

[@kezzstar24]

I feel you Rosie. My sister was a toddler and my parents forced me to lend her my Pokemon game. She saved over my game, killing my Pokemon and my parents didn't care. Still makes my blood boil when I think about it.