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@twishashishroy32426 ай бұрын
I think one of the reasons Kieren ranked over Arven is the fact that he kinda represents us (in one weird way). Lemme elaborate. Arven is a solid character with a super sad story but most people (especially the ones who the games are targeted towards) are unable to fully relate to him. Not saying there aren't people who can't, I have personally dealt with grief in my life and I can absolutely relate to him, but (and this is for the best) I can see why a lot of people that never faced grief only see him as a very well written character. With Kieren, he is this (at first shy) guy who wants to do big things but is always one-up-ed by the player. And he takes his anger by being a top trainer, catching a legendary Pokemon and so on. Due to the main fanbase of Pokemon being mostly nerdy people (who statistically have a bit hard on the socializing aspect of life, it is sad but we know that this goes for a lot of people) can in a weird way relate to Kieren. Maybe even without realizing it. Thus making him a more relatable character.
@thatman6666 ай бұрын
Kieren's heel turn felt forced upon Teal Mask but Indigo Disk was where it ultimately paid off well.
@ashelygordon6696 ай бұрын
There are definitely Pokemon fans who’s opinions are quite divided on Kieran but characters with strong emotional depth and complex yet well written backstories are (almost) always going to be ranked highly amongst their fanbase. Don’t ask me why Kieran is at number one, I like him, don’t get me wrong but the popularity over in Japan is quite ridiculous and over Larry!? 🥴🤣
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@twishashishroy3242 I just couldn't. I identified with Penny and she still wasn't my favorite.
@syaefullrizcky6 ай бұрын
Carmine is not surprissing at all.. A rude Tsundere girl is popular in Asia especially in Japan.. A big sister trait also great boost
@bulwark26566 ай бұрын
yeah and her "flaws" are mostly made to be comic relief so people didint read too deep into it(unlike some reddit post ive read)
@diego64246 ай бұрын
@@bulwark2656 of course, let's swift the fact that she's the main reason Kieran flipped his lid under the rug of "tsundere girl Archetype"
@bulwark26566 ай бұрын
@@diego6424 he hated the MC more than his sister though, keeping ogerpon a secret was a way to "protect" Keiran and even though it backfired it was not done with malicious intent. Keiran flipped because of a combination of his admiration to the MC and it turning into jelousy when orgepon decided to pick MC, also Keiran forgave Carmine in the middle of the Kitakami arc so if it was that easy to forgive her then it wouldnt make sense for it to be the reason right? if anything Keiran sees Carmine as one of the things MC took away from him. MC was the reason not Carmine, id even go as far as to say that the same thing would've happened even if Carmine didint lie because ultimately Ogerpon will choose us
@Mimicrophone5 ай бұрын
@@bulwark2656A. Regardless of Who Kieran still blamed in the end, None of that would’ve happened if Carmine hadn’t forced us to lie to him. Heck, if we told him the truth, the Loyal Three would never have been revived from his “Shrine Punch”, and if he goes blabbing the secret out to the town? Nothing bad would happen, because doing Exactly that is what resolves the plot and gets Ogerpon to stop being hated B. His angry rant while trying to pull Terapagos out of the wall Clearly shows he hasn’t just Dropped his anger at her. He specifically called her out for being a jerk to the player, then suddenly switching it up once MC powers came into the mix. And given the rest of that rant, safe to say he’s Still mad at being lied at(with Teal Mask making the lie part too obvious to not miss via dramatic zoom ins when he first starts getting angry) Regardless of how you spin it, Terrible at being a Sibling, or just being a flat out terrible person, this Whole thing was Carmine’s fault. All because she stitched our mouths shut and forced us to exclude him because “I don’t want him to Feel excluded”
@bulwark26565 ай бұрын
@@Mimicrophone Nahh. yall like to blame Carmine for what happened, but Keiran's whole matoivation was to beat the MC, it doesnt even have to do anything with Carmine. also in the terapagos scene his rant clearly tells us that Keiran sees Carmine as one of the things MC took away from him. Face it man, you guys just want to blame Carmine because theres no one else to blame other than Keiran himself.
@madnessarcade74476 ай бұрын
3:23 u could argue the same for any player character even red
@VivioSaf5 ай бұрын
Larry was actually the number one, but he asked some colleagues to bump his place down ... because it would be a hassle if he receives more duties due his ranking.
@user-bb1nu3to3q6 ай бұрын
It's not surprising to me. The list of anime / manga / game characters voted by female anime fans at the beginning of this year (The popularity poll that Rika dominated for two consecutive years), Kieran is fourth in the rankings, after Satoru Gojo and Suguru Geto (What a coincidence is that Kieran's Japanese name is Suguri, which is very similar to Suguru W). And Drayton also appears on this list at rank 17. By the way, I think the reason people voted for the protagonists is because they could be shipping with Kieran / Arven (and maybe Nemona) XD
@butterskutz6 ай бұрын
As someone who follows a lot of Poke-artists on Twitter, I'm not surprised both Florian and Keiran are top 10. Hells, with how often they are paired I figured at least Florian would be higher. Thanks to the anime I also figured Iono would be high up there, so it's nice to see her in top 10.
@madnessarcade74476 ай бұрын
3:24 everyone I’ve seen loves carmine that’s new
@diego64246 ай бұрын
Well she has the tsundere side, but also she's the main culprit for Kieran's madness
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
I don't
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@camwoz5181 Really? I thought she was a bully and she never really changed.
@camwoz51814 ай бұрын
Agree. Among other awful takes in the video. "It's mostly girls that vote and girls like..." Carmine is a fun character. Great design. Really loved her home and her family. He looks like Penny. Maybe that's why he think she should've been more popular.
@camwoz51814 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos I don't think I can convince you to like the character. Whatever parts I find endearing you may interpret differently, which is totally cool. ^^ Just my two cents: While I think she had flaws, I would not go as far as to say Carmine was a bully. Kieran was initially meek, and Carmine felt it was her duty to become the assertive voice for him when there were things he wanted to do but was too shy, like talking to strangers. It was her being protective while not being emotionally mature enough to express it in the nicest way. Her treatment of Kieran was called out in the story as being abrasive by other characters where she had to work on expressing that she always had the best intentions for him. Made mistakes too. It was interesting to see the reasons behind her behavior. I like that Carmine is head strong and assertive. While she does soften up, I don't think she needed to change.
@bacd-nn2lg6 ай бұрын
I am not even surprised by those poll results. Honestly Kieran deserves number one spot. Ps. Many years ago Gundam Seed was also pretty popular in japanese female fandom for the male character looks, drama love storyline, and complex character designs.
@diego64246 ай бұрын
Not only for the looks, but he is a growing character who has traits of most of the rivals (not counting Lucas/Brandon/Calem) so far. Starts meek and insecure like Wally Grows competitively like Hugh Has trust (and self-trust) issues against the player, much like Hop, arriving to almost hate us Grows being a prick like Silver or Gladion Is on top of a League like Blue Aims for unlimited power and almost catches a legendary, but after that legendary escapes, he understands that he must find the strength inside himself (and not with a legendary) like Paulo from Pokémon Masters Ex
@abhijithvasudevan40906 ай бұрын
Usually pokemon game and anime has a different storyline till Galat region. But this time in pokemon scarlet and violet anime has giving some references from the their game storyline like bringing the scarlet book in the library. I think they are mixing up the game storyline into anime.
@Jawbreaker8k6 ай бұрын
I put drayton as one of my favorites for what he said after Kieran gets defeated
@tempertenchi6 ай бұрын
Kieran my baby fr fr fr he deserves that number 1 spot. I wanna hug him and protect him and love him no one @ me lmao
@MegaMetal966 ай бұрын
Sis you were all over my community tab when the DLC was released
@tempertenchi6 ай бұрын
@@MegaMetal96 loool 😆 good
@chaserseven28866 ай бұрын
@@MegaMetal96where?
@MegaMetal966 ай бұрын
@@chaserseven2886 …the community tab
@Sleepyhead_037Ай бұрын
Real, true, based
@tannermccollum70606 ай бұрын
Kieran also has a tough fight compared to Geeta.
@NourSalem-pb2nx5 ай бұрын
Kieran’s arc really hit me hard especially in the indigo disk. The way he broke down after the battle then that dragon guy started taunting him- it really hit hard I really hope he heats that sort of arc in the anime with like or Roy perhaps as it would also evolve both characters
@Sleepyhead_037Ай бұрын
I'm actually quite happy with this list, it represents me perfectly! Kieran is my 1st favorite, always ❤
@Kirbygamer12342 ай бұрын
I could predict Kieran’s rank due to the fact THE WHOLE SCRATCH POKÉMON FANDOM SIMPS OVER THIS DUDE
@charusharu6 ай бұрын
🍊🍇Who's your favourite Pokemon Scarlet & Violet character?
@njivwathomassilavwe20566 ай бұрын
Cassiopenny. I love that she's just a straight up criminal and everything she says (especially in the Mochi Mayhem event) is absolute gold
@reyesmoralesamourshippingg61756 ай бұрын
I saw Nemona👩🏻🤩😁👍
@ASoulphoenix6 ай бұрын
Arven and Larry, one loves his doggo more than anything and the other is the working class hero, fed up with Geeta's demands
@Blitzenking6 ай бұрын
Male: Larry Female: Penny Overall: Penny
@herpderp10136 ай бұрын
Nurse Miriam- cute design and well thought out team that doesn’t just consist of chansey and pink pokemon
@madnessarcade74476 ай бұрын
3:23 they do have personality it’s whatever we imprint on them That would be like saying link has no personality Also they’re kind and selfless is that not a personality
@mray47846 ай бұрын
Whatever is not a personality. At least master Ex gives them some.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
Link has an implied personality due to his reactions and response options. I suppose the player character has those things but it's not nearly as established or conveyed.
@jaripruim6 ай бұрын
Nah this video sells men short on reasons why we like characters. That was a wild generalisation.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
Yeah that seemed really unusual to claim. It doesn't make any sense. And the implication that women don't go by looks alone overlooks how Rika is basically exclusively carried by her appearance
@CamKoudo6 ай бұрын
If Larry isnt at least in top 10, we riot! Edit: Yay he made it!! 😂
@Oscar928396 ай бұрын
0:08 the silhouette ain't so obvious
@ThatRandomBritish6 ай бұрын
Wait, there's a Pokémon adventures for gen 9? I can understand why Kieran ranks so high; he's probably my favourite character because of how incredibly fleshed-out he is.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
Yeah it hasn't come out outside Japan yet. And for some reason it seems to be the only gen 9 manga other than anime stuff and I don't know why. Remember when we used to have lots of manga for each gen?
@tuvyamaeir46846 ай бұрын
Honestly...I never really got the Rika hype. Save for Clodsire. That's an automatic win in my book.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@tuvyamaeir4684 she's got a cool design and I certainly can't believe that many people would DISlike her at least. But yeah she doesn't have much going on. Other characters with very little screen time still pack a lot in there but with her we don't get much.
@dark3rthanshadows4 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos it's not her it's the whole elite 4 they look so bland a bunch of guys with suits besides her pokemons are kinda meh.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@dark3rthanshadows Larry is the only "guy in suit". Rika has semi-formal wear but it's not really an office look, Hassel is really more at home in the classroom, looking like a seasoned old lecturer, and Poppy is...well, Poppy.
@paolocalapatia64016 ай бұрын
Reasons why I do my own personal Top Lists
@minermole1016 ай бұрын
Men: RULE 34 TIME!!!! Women: If it has complexity and emotion, it's good.
@BlazeElHeraldodelaTormenta6 ай бұрын
But if it is rule 34 worthy and also have complexity and emotion?
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@BlazeElHeraldodelaTormentaThat's what I would think would be the most popular.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@minermole101 so explain Rika then. She's wildly popular among women to the point of winning the yume poll (basically, who Japanese women fantasize about) two years in a row, and had very little screen time or displayed personality.
@garchompelago6 ай бұрын
I like Iono. Maybe its just me with my love for vtubers.
@alexquenemoen10916 ай бұрын
As long as the Pokemon anime is running I will never give up hope on Ash and Serena becoming a couple
@BottlenoseTheSeaWing6 ай бұрын
Technically, the director said that they were the ones who were meant to be together, so yes, they will.
@wopwop86246 ай бұрын
@@BottlenoseTheSeaWingno he said might.thats not confirmation of anything
@trainerjezza93906 ай бұрын
@BottlenoseTheSeaWing No they won't. Ash is gone and he won't age even if he returns. His destiny even after leaving the show is to continuously travel the world with Pikachu.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
You do know the Ash anime ended, right?
@alexquenemoen10914 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos as long as the Pokemon anime is running I am not giving up Hope on Ash and Serena becoming a couple and that is final
@blackfrieza69695 ай бұрын
Men: Fighting And Women. Women: Struggles And Feelings.
@dark3rthanshadows4 ай бұрын
Basically ever Y.A male romance partner it's always .
@kylenirs31815 ай бұрын
Penny is my No. 1 favorite. Her story is touching and her theme song also ROCKS. Her battle theme is my No. 1 Pokémon theme song.
@MizuHime076 ай бұрын
Arven should have stayed at 1..but to be fair Keiran and Arven had a fun interaction in the final part of the DLC [the Mochi Madness event] so you get to see a different side to Keiran which I guess swayed the vote to his favor. Also..for those that battled Keiran in the DLC..did you guys start the battle with Ogerpon..xD I did it and man was he LIVID.
@DetectiveBarricade6 ай бұрын
You don't have to start the battle with Ogerpon; he'll react when it's first sent out. Carmine does as well, and it and Pecharunt DEFINITELY seem to recognize each other.
@MizuHime076 ай бұрын
@@DetectiveBarricade oh I wanted Ogerpon to go first haha just to spite him xD but yeah I've done it with Carmine and Pecha.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
The poll didn't differentiate between the original professors and the AIs either and I feel that's also unfair since the AIs always get ignored in discussion despite being the real heroes of the game. Iono isn't popular in the west? Where do you pull that from? She's WILDLY popular. Drayton has a chill personality? He's a bully! Just like Carmine! He's a lazy ass who expects everyone to do his work for him. That's not chill! Thats manipulative! Carmine doesn't redeem herself. Even at the end of the epilogue she continues to undercut her brother at every turn. Arven is apparently based on the director's own life, dealing with parental loss as a teenager. I hated Kieran too. People go on about how we were "forced to lie to him" but he didn't DESERVE the truth. He was an entitled brat who thought Ogerpon owed him her attention because he had liked her story. He was a creepy fanboy and he couldn't respect that Ogerpon picked someone who wasn't him. See if the whole poll was skewed towards liking complex male characters who are also handsome, i would think AI Turo and his creator would rank MUCH higher. Why would liking complex characters be a gendered matter? I can't fathom why that would be. Like, we all know Rika is carried by her looks since she really doesn't have much of a personality, at least not in the game. And she's got a HUGE female fan base to the point of winning the yume poll two years in a row.
@abdulhadiazman33905 ай бұрын
I like the player character. I dunno my reasoning as well.... but they would rank #1 for me. But i'm fine with this tier list. BUT THE FACT THAT KIERAN IS NUKMBER 1 OUT OF ALL PEOPLE PISSES ME OFF! but that's mainly because of the design, edgy nonsense and the fan arts. I really hate everything about him.
@makinyoumad94986 ай бұрын
Geeta my love 💜
@kylenirs31815 ай бұрын
6:17 -..- okay..... Well, that makes sense.
@TlocRevelc6 ай бұрын
Ngl, i was not expecting to see such a different list
@BlackFoxx7775 ай бұрын
Ha jokes on you . I don't like Skyla. team Elsea over here
@Idi-t2x6 ай бұрын
Well at least my president had into one of the 10th spot 2:19. I still wish he was higher though.
@charusharu6 ай бұрын
Yeah, he typically ranks a fair bit higher than that.
@Idi-t2x6 ай бұрын
Ok
@randomduelist56 ай бұрын
My 2 favorite female characters are perrin and carmine, carmine has that typical tsundere personlity but she also has a sweet side that slowly comes out later but i guess the first halve of kitakami gave players a bad first impression of her, I get why people like kieran but I really wanted him to go back to his kitakami hairstyle, least favorite character in sv is larry I find him boring and forgettable, I just don,'t get what people like about him
@MagillanicaLouM6 ай бұрын
"Iono isnt all that popular in west" Hm, i know some sites that would lead me to think different 74% female voter base definitely explains a lot here lol
@mustafaismail30245 ай бұрын
OMG I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT FIGER THIS OUT SOONER (THE NECKLACE IS THE SAME LOGO OF THE TRASTILIZE LOGO
@matthewmoss506 ай бұрын
I liked the carnival phantasm insert. Let’s go Fate!
@rosettaaraara66336 ай бұрын
Carmine best tsun
@LostRustedknight6 ай бұрын
The fact that you didn’t use Florian for the ranking photo
@bluep3rz6 ай бұрын
fans tend to stick to the female protag more than the male one, examples being rosa and may
@SuparNerd6 ай бұрын
Let's go 80%!!!! 💪💪💪
@yinyangdragon33813 ай бұрын
Sad for Penny. She deserved better. ❤
@RedRaikou6 ай бұрын
LARRY IS SO EFFING BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING A mostly bad list, Penny and Nemona should be higher, there is no reason for the player characters to be on the list, why is Rika popular? Kieran was a well written character but number 1? Nah. Arven deserves to be up there, Drayton is cool be he should be bellow Nemona and Penny.
@TlocRevelc6 ай бұрын
Not according to Japanese women
@siriadias4020Ай бұрын
Wait a sec. 6:21 the professors are so low?
@CamKoudo6 ай бұрын
Waifus, waifus everywhere 😂
@Mimicrophone5 ай бұрын
Honestly, Kieran deserves Number One Will never start liking Carmine, so I can’t agree with this ranking Entirely, but Kieran at least was beautiful Pathos in Indigo Disk(now if only Teal Mask was Just As good with that whole plot)
@dark3rthanshadows4 ай бұрын
I understand why people like Kieran ngl i used to hate him first but later on enjoyed him a lot. Pokemon needs the rival that...lowkey hates you. I think about the show Paul, or Blue, or N having mixed feelings about you.
@bukojoetheslapsoils82736 ай бұрын
I'm a guy and I hate Iono. Arven and Larry are my top 2 but I really love Dendra even though she's not that amazing of a character.
@thelastgamurai5 ай бұрын
Shocking
@JustinStewart4 ай бұрын
Rosa #1 best girl in life
@DragonJ1256 ай бұрын
i havent watched it yet, but i'm guessing larry won coz it's larry the goat
@DragonJ1256 ай бұрын
wait what why is he number 9???????
@charusharu6 ай бұрын
Haha there were quite a few upsets in the list!
@EsCrItOr0OB08O6 ай бұрын
I'm a man but I really like the idea of women taking over the fandom, since it might mean less inappropriate content with minor female characters.
@whatdadogdoin31536 ай бұрын
I genuinely don’t feel that much emotion from a lot of the Pokémon characters. I mean I barely felt much from Arven, his story just didn’t hit me. Only his parents made me feel sorry for but I knew he was going to accept his loss with grace. Kieran was the first to make me actually say I don’t really want the legendary just keep Ogerpon. I wish I could have let him keep Terapagos. I think it hit me harder then Arven since he never broke down over his loss Kieran was mentally beaten down multiple times over the course of the DLC
@shadowarcherx156 ай бұрын
No wonder this is so biased.... And I wonder how it would be if there was an American poll though.
@madnessarcade74476 ай бұрын
Americans love Kieran too
@shadowarcherx156 ай бұрын
Well maybe I'm just the only one who doesn't like him
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@shadowarcherx15I don't like him or his bully sister
@Sleepyhead_037Ай бұрын
@@madnessarcade7447yep i do especially
@davidstears70374 ай бұрын
Never trust Japanese polls on Pokemon.
@XLR8wuzhere6 ай бұрын
Funny enough I’m still upset about the polls in gen 7 & 8 😓.
@charusharu6 ай бұрын
Haha anything in particular set you off?
@SuparNerd6 ай бұрын
Larry at #8. So I'm hearing that Japan is wrong
@DarkQuilava136 ай бұрын
I'm happy my hubby Grusha made it to the top 10 x3 Edit: I don't mind edgy characters but there was something defintely WRONG with Kieran in the DLCs, being upset is one thing but damn, kid was legit concerning and needed help, also I was defs on team "tell Kieran wtf" for the first dlcs. Also I think pokemon players are a bit more balanced than your fanbase in gender ratio but I am of the ~20% ;P
@StephenMeek6 ай бұрын
Kieren is my least favorite, so it makes sense that he's number one... lol
@Shakazulu5555 ай бұрын
I've never been a fan of Rika or Grushia's appearance. They're to androgynous. Rika has a skin boy's torso and a slightly feminine face, while Grushia looks like a woman because of the character design and clothes but is said to be male. It's too confusing and I don't like this influx of androgynous characters in video games.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
You do know androgynous people exist in real life, right?
@Shakazulu5554 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos I told you why I don't like it. That's my choice to not like the character. It has nothing to do with people in real life that might look like that. I'm talking about the game.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@Shakazulu555 It just seems an odd thing to dislike
@Shakazulu5554 ай бұрын
@@BJGvideos it's not odd. It only seem that way since you've probably not recognized it before in other games also out now. (Ex. Last of us part 2, Returnal) Besides, it's my take. If you like her and other characters like that's design go ahead. I prefer women to look like women; even in games.
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
@@Shakazulu555 I look around me. There's no one way for a woman to look.
@Jayyp955 ай бұрын
Wait…grusha is a guy??? Wtf
@LuigiTheMetal645 ай бұрын
People mistake Nanjyamo as a boy character because of the jacket.
@Jayyp955 ай бұрын
@@LuigiTheMetal64 she’s obviously a girl but what threw me off with grusha is the hair and eyes why give a boy character female characteristics
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
They tell you that in the game
@reyesmoralesamourshippingg61756 ай бұрын
I guess Nemona is better then them😅😅😅😁👍
@BottlenoseTheSeaWing6 ай бұрын
PEEEEENNNNNNYYYYYY
@jaybeeme6 ай бұрын
I have never disliked a character more than Kieran.
@LuigiTheMetal646 ай бұрын
Even then, one website does not represent one country. Rolling Stone is not the US. Japan still sees the SV characters as ugly.
@ЛилияЯмилевна5 ай бұрын
Then it's bold for you to represent the whole country 😂
@BJGvideos4 ай бұрын
Who in the game is ugly? I mean it has unattractive characters like Kofu but he's got a big personality so he's still charming.