EVERY Godox Trigger VS the NEW X3 - Review & Comparison

[@WesPerry]

*Addendums: (will continue to add to this) 1) the X2T can activate ALL mode by holding down the SET button for 4 seconds. Not nearly as convenient, but it’s there. 2) the X3 has an ALL function at the bottom of the screen with the +\- buttons. 3) on the X3, after doing a channel scan you can just Tap one of the discovered channels to quickly switch to it! I might need to do an updated face off soon 😏 Updated/corrected features doc: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lG3XytAAMJCAUAbfXs3UEZOwPwnQ0EtFv3bY83FXMAw/

[@evokestudioio]

The new x3 has the adjust all feature in the main screen all the time.. at the bottom

[@WesPerry]

@evokestudioio wow, how did I miss That?? Thanks

[@QRaterAU]

@@WesPerry while we’re at it, why are you using the scroll wheel at all? The x3 crush the other triggers at adjusting groups if you just use the touch screen.

[@WesPerry]

The scroll wheel can slide settings faster and with more accuracy (at least for me) as you can feel the detent clicks as it rolls.

[@evokestudioio]

@@WesPerry soooo many things to catch. impossible!

[@wolfrehm6314]

You got me in the moment (4:00) when you opened the X3 and showed the battery which can be changed. This was the only point which let me hesitate to order it. Thanks a lot!

[@artandpeoplebysp]

The details and comparison and the depth you have gone to do so is amazing. Thank you !!

[@artmaltman]

Superb comparison, thank you! Comments: (1) I bring 3 triggers to any commercial shoot because they break so easily. (2) For any situation where lots of changes are needed during shoot (eg wedding) and IF the photographer likes to rely on muscle memory, the X3 has zero usability due to no buttons. (3) At least one backup trigger is needed for X3 because battery capacity will reduce over time. Finally, (4) I find that the older Godox triggers drain the battery when not in use for a couple months. Can be a real problem. (5) almost forgot - the oddly slow startup time of the X3 can be a problem for some photographic situations.

[@WesPerry]

1) I've only once broken one during a shoot. Dropped an X1T onto concrete. Oops. But I still bring 3 regardless anyway, because one can never be too sure! 2) Can't argue with you there 3) I don't think long term battery degradation will be an issue for the X3, except for the most intense flash photographers. I've charged mine once in two months (aside from the purposeful battery drain test), which mean that, assuming a 200-300 cycle timeframe for showing wear and 1000 cycles for serious loss of capacity, we're looking at 7 years to 35 years to wear down. 4) I haven't noticed this. But I tend to remove the batteries from the ones I'm not currently using, and use the ones in circulation too much to be able to notice. 5) That one is taking a little getting used to. Had to add a custom button on my a7iv to toggle flash exposure preview instead of just toggling the trigger off and on (such as for real estate photography).

[@artmaltman]

@@WesPerry Thanks for the detailed response! I also rely on A7iv and will try out that "toggle flash exposure preview". Brilliant, actually.

[@richardsonduverseau3052]

Which one do you suggest to start, it will be my first one Xpro ii c or x3c (for canon) which one is better

[@remektekmedia6641]

Just discovered your channel, because I was searching for Godox triggers. Such a good comprehensive review! You got a new subscriber. It's cray that Godox keeps changing the UI from one counter intuitive setup to another!

[@graxxor]

They are pretty consistent over the generations, TBH. the X3 is the first departure.

[@LMDsama]

THIS VIDEO IS CRAZY !!! Thank you for all this work and the details ! It's a must watch video before buying a godox trigger

[@WesPerry]

Thanks so much!

[@visionz_n_media]

Over the years, I have acquired all of these triggers for 4 different brands 🤦🏽. I can honestly say that I love the X3 over everything else. The only thing that would definitely make the X3 or an X3 Pro trigger better would be a universal shoe, with an optional Sony adapter. Those of us that shoot multiple brands can worry about a single trigger as opposed to needing multiples. Great comparison.

[@WesPerry]

As a Sony shooter I see no benefit to this 😏😂

[@slimhim]

It has a trigger mode to make it function as a single pin connector.

[@visionz_n_media]

@@slimhim yea that’s cool but it doesn’t do anything for those that shoot with TTL

[@poerava]

That syncing to audio at the start was beautiful bro

[@WesPerry]

Had to match or exceed the opening from the Previous version of this video. Might need fireworks for the next one 😂

[@AlexJohn-f4m]

I’ll stay with the previous one. Thank you for doing this!

[@jensgaethje8555]

13:30 It is designed for right hand use because it is Touchj Screen. Most people (including you 😃) will use their right hand to navigate a touch screen. If the wheel was on the left, it would be harder to adjust things in the menu, using touch screen and wheel, while the triggers is on the camera. You need 1 hand to hold the camera while using the touch screen, and most people will use their right hand. I would actually prefer a sideways scroll wheel at the front, to use for either hand in different scenarios 😊

[@edwinsteen2160]

Very in depth, super informative, and well done. Thank you!

[@Cphoto1954]

I have owned many of these units but the ONLY one that can do HHS on Canon mirrorless bodies is the new X3. Plus it's the ONLY one in which I can see all the settings in the camera, just like I had a Canon brand unit on top. So it is my choice for sure!

[@gundross]

I have to rest it but x2t has the same in body menu as X3 on my R6 mk2. Has I have to test too

[@oreocookie3379]

I'm buying my 1st one, but I'm choosing between X2T and X3. What really makes me want an X3 is the lightness of it, I'm not a very strong girl and holding so much is tiring. Plus, I really really hate batteries that die too quickly, and then you must go and buy a new one....

[@limebulls]

What did you buy

[@oreocookie3379]

@@limebulls X3. Easy to navigate, lightweight, satisfied

[@alexneagoe6323]

The button on the right works well if you hold your camera by the lens in your left hand.

[@Marko-od7eb]

Having a cluncky menu and not having AA battery in X3 and having to keep track of battery life is the huge deal breaker for me. Just a proof that newer is not always better.

[@RichBarschdorf]

And it’s $90. dollars.💵

[@charruaporelmundo]

The only control it has is in the wrong place, it is on the right side, but we are holding the camera with the right, so you need to pass the camera to your left hand in order to operate it. Very unconfortable, I will wait for the version two .

[@jayt2266]

Touch screen

[@keola36]

Thanks for this Wes! I have the XPro and it worked great with my A7iii but when i upgraded to A7iV I had a lot of trouble getting it on and off. You confirmed my hopes that the new XNano had a metal mount and you even said it slides on easier on the A7iV. Appreciate the time you took for this video. Thanks

[@WesPerry]

Yeah I am so tired of wrestling things in and out of that a7iv hot shoe 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DIYEXPRESS]

​@WesPerry yes main concern tight hot shoe. I m also sonya7iv user. If it fit well. I definitely gonna buy

[@WesPerry]

I went back to the XProII yesterday and thought something was broken, then realized “oh right, I got used to the new metal shoe that actually slides in and out without a fight” 🥴

[@DIYEXPRESS]

@@WesPerry 😊😊😆

[@realnikonlover6207]

Love this review. Sometimes the nano is just too small, especially for old eyes. I really love the XPro II even though it doesnt have the second hot shoe and has a larger form factor like a satellite dish.

[@theyear1500]

It bugs me that the Nano (X3) does not allow you to individually control the zoom of each flash. I use multiple ad100's and this is a feature I really hope they add in.

[@OliverReinhard]

Great, very useful review, Wes. Thanks!

[@PapaBruno]

23:20 Ah-ha! That's exactly what I was looking for! Thank you and subbed.

[@Patto2276]

Very informative and information I couldn't find anywhere else!

[@psoon04286]

When all’s said and done, we got to admit that before Godox came along if you’re looking for half of the features that Godox packed into their line from the camera brand speedlights you either could not get them or they were astronomically priced. It’s good to see Godox improving on their build quality now lets see them focus a little more on ergonomics

[@milesgommeimages]

The XT32 is still available but only directly from Godox. It was only made in Canon & Nikon versions but still works with the latest R versions of Canon. Still for size and what it needs to do one of the best! I have it as a backup and it has never let me down!

[@GarrettShaw1]

Thanks Wes, I brought one of the x3 been wanting one for a while. Great Review!!

[@allanryrodrigues]

is the battery long lasting ?

[@aj2009ification]

I have the X3 (for canon) and thankfully I can get single pin mode with a piece of tape over the other contacts on my canon r6. The reason I do this is to gain back exposure simulation (important when using natural light or continuous light as the main light in portraits as I do) which is automatically disabled when a non single pin flash is connected. I lose e-ttl and hss but if I ever need I just remove the tape.

[@WesPerry]

There’s a new firmware update that adds single pin.

[@dumspyrospero]

Incredibly detailed video that is going to make our choice much easier. Thank YOU for making this awesome comparison!

[@marcelocampoamor4761]

My main complaint with the X3 is that the control button would have to be on the left side to make it easier for the right hand to normally control and hold the camera. In the case of using a tripod this is not a problem.

[@jaym5938]

The X1T does have single-pin mode (legacy hotshoe) and why I miss it. Glad they finally implemented it on the X3; but, wish they'd have gone with the multi-brand trigger with the XPro II, like Jinbei/Westcott.

[@stkuj]

I bought these universal (cut to size) screen protectors for electronics for my Godox X-Pro2. I have 2 X-Pro2's, 1 XT2. I use the X-Pro2 still today because of the screen and ease of use.

[@WesPerry]

A great idea! Although I would rather it not be necessary at all lol

[@stkuj]

@@WesPerry Let's see a version 2 of the X3 with a screen twice the size and the job wheel on the other side. I think that might really do it for me.

[@LMActionsports]

I have dropped a few triggers and I owned every one of these except the new Nano. The week after I bought the Xpro ll they came out with the nano. I always like to have a back up triggered but I already have two backup triggers so I’m not sure if I need the nano or not. I have large hands actually size 4 XL hands and I’m afraid that the touchscreen will be more of a hassle with my big fingers, but I love that. They are coming out with new and improved triggers.

[@WesPerry]

Yeah this isn’t great for large hands. The adjustment wheel on the side is hard to use even for my medium hands.

[@LMActionsports]

@@WesPerry every time i comment on your videos you always reply back unlike other KZbin channels. I greatly appreciate it. I like the Xpro-ii's easier menu and the simplicity od tapping on the group needed and just adjust it. Plus i like the angle of the xpro models cuz its easy to glace down on it to see the settings

[@WesPerry]

@@LMActionsports I’m not sure if it’s possible to make a “perfect” trigger. Every good thing has potential trade offs

[@nicolaschallenor1120]

Impressive comparison, great job as always, thanks.

[@ajphelps16]

The x3 is super easy to use and I love it. Wouldn’t mind a slightly larger size but I’m not really complaining either

[@TwoCaptainsOneShip]

Mine comes in a few days, looking forward to trying it out.

[@roninmantis7584]

Nice review and very helpful. Hopefully we will see a XPro III soon.

[@graxxor]

just ordered an X3 and an Xpro II. I really love their user interfaces. What I'm curious about is how does the top hot shoe on the T1 and T2 work? is it a pass though for native flashes? By the way, you can polish up your old Xpro plastic screens with some Brasso metal polish and a piece of chamois leather, just use the rough side first, then the smooth. Should only take about 5 to 10 minutes of polishing while, say, watching a KZbin video.... While my own Xpro hasn't received a single scratch in the 18 months I've used it, I got my cheap Cateye bicycle speedometer plastic screen scratched and brought it back into 100% pristine condition.

[@patrickmcmahon818]

Ok, all I can say is I have used several of these older triggers with my Nikons (both D and Z) and I’ve always had issues with missed flashes and the unit disconnecting from my camera. I’ve had to turn my camera on and off several times during a session to re-sync it to the trigger. I just finished a photo shoot at a school taking over 900 pics without any missed flashes or having to re-sync it to my camera. So far this has been a tremendous improvement over the older triggers. I’m not sure if this is a Nikon issue with the older triggers or maybe it’s me, but this trigger is great. Wes, long time subscriber and as always you put out terrific videos!

[@WesPerry]

Very interesting to hear that. Hadn’t heard of such issues with Nikon before! The new battery supplies a higher voltage (3.7V vs 2.6V to 3.0V if I remember correctly), which may lead to more stable circuitry under load.

[@patrickmcmahon818]

@@WesPerryHuh… I’ve never thought about the voltage before. I have both the Flashpoint R2 Pro and R2 Pro II which I use with eneloop batteries. I keep them as a backup but I’m gonna try them with a typical AA battery and see if that corrects the issue I have had. Once again, great channel and I look forward to your next video!

[@WesPerry]

@patrickmcmahon818 yeah many swear by using only alkaline batteries (with higher voltage), and Godox also says not to use rechargeable batteries in them, but I’ve only found reliability issues when the rechargeable batteries get really low, as would be the case with a running low alkaline anyway. So I charge the NiMH batteries a little more often than would otherwise seem necessary and I think everything works pretty well. Even so… more voltage is betterer? Lol

[@MrPhotog7]

I started using rechargeable batteries in my R2 Pro II, and the trigger said that I only had one bar, even though the batteries had been fully charged. So, now I only use the regular alkaline batteries, and I haven’t had any issues.

[@davidemagni1494]

@WesPerry Professional and comprehensive review, thanks! Could you update the review with two things missing in the X3 that is actually there with the latest firmware? The single pin mode is now in the settings menu, the group button is actually there in form of touch action. Long press on group (2 seconds more or less) will switch off the group, a tap on an inactive group will immediately activate it. The X3 is a magic thing, the only feature missing compared to other Godox triggers are the pass through shoe and Bluetooth but with the user friendly interface and touch interaction I don’t see the necessity to have this kind of connection. One thing missing in all triggers that could be easily added to X3 interface is a memory function to store the settings of lights for a later recall. So you can memorize different setup and recall the one you need very quickly and easily.

[@davidemagni1494]

The AF assist beam is also missing, but never used it, too much disturbing, too much short distance range.

[@wilteduk007]

I was about to pull the trigger on a X3 trigger until I realised that they stupidly put the physical buttons and dial on the wrong side of it. Maybe they'll do an update with the controls on the right handside, until then the X2T will be my go to trigger.

[@facu_eze_peralta]

I have the original and I still love it! I'll get this X3 for sure in the future.

[@brianglock3099]

X3 to adjust all groups swipe the bottom of the screen to adjust all at once, easy 🙂 individual group swipe one the group you want on the screen…no reason to use dual,🙂. Works for me

[@zvkvhs3818]

I own the Flashpoint AD600 Pro and have encountered several durability issues. After the first year, the tab for releasing the Bowens mount protector and reflector broke. My Flashpoint R2 XPro II trigger also failed when the plastic between the hot shoe connection and the top separated. I switched to the R2 Pro Mark II, which has been working fine, but I’m considering a new controller while keeping the current one as a backup. Despite careful storage and handling, the plastic quality of Flashpoint (Godox) products leads to frequent breakages. After three years, my AD600 Pro battery also failed. Given these issues, I suggest potential buyers be aware of the durability concerns. It might be worth considering a more reliable and robust lighting system. Also, the battery on my Godox LC500 went out a few months ago which can happen, but… the thread on the battery side to mount like on a C-Stand or Tripod began bending over time, luckily there’s another one on the other end. 😅 fml.

[@jazzfan7491]

Well, the reason for the case is keeping up with the competition like the Lightpix Labs tiny flash which comes in a similar case.

[@dimabelan388]

When I saw new one x3 first what I thought why control button wheel from right side, I’m night club photographer and I always use my left head to control a settings on transmitter

[@ChristopherGeorge_photography]

I have only seen videos and and I can already tell that I will love the R2 nano (when it arrives at my doorstep) much more than the rest. I am older but I'm assuming because of the almost phone like interface that I will get used to it way quicker than I did with my last two (R2 proii and Xproii). Thanks for the breakdown!

[@shelby.singer]

I love that the “This video is sponsored by, me” 😂 great review video

[@normandyeuropa]

I'd love the X3 pro to move the crown to the left side or turn it into a click wheel on top (though i prefer the crown as they manufacture the flimsiest click wheels)

[@KevinCase-ru2ho]

I own a X-pro & a X-Pro 2 I love the bluetooth for when my camera is up high on my camera stand and I can use the phone app to change settings but I find it chews through my batteries where my X_pro last ages however I noticed my X-Pro hot shoe has cracked and now doesn't work reliably so I need to get a new trigger and I'm thinking I might try out the new X3 thanks for your review.

[@WesPerry]

But no Bluetooth on the new X3!

[@KevinCase-ru2ho]

@@WesPerry yes that is my problem hope fully the next model will be my dream trigger but I think I will just grab one as a spare until a new version comes out.

[@GilbertTV]

the biggest thing that interests me about the new R3 is can I see it easier ?? , I am like many people short sighted so being able to see numbers & figures on a screen easily is very important

[@WesPerry]

Yes! It is indeed Much brighter and clearer. Some of the larger pro ones have a “big numbers” mode as well, though. But then you lose some other screen info.

[@GilbertTV]

@@WesPerry thank you , im gonna order one from Amazon & hope I can see it better & if I can't I send it back haha ..

[@dominicpascal5512]

Great video and comparison! It shows exactly my huge disappointment coming from Xpro: EVERYTHING takes longer, from starting, from switching groups, changing power. I wanted to love that thing for the BEAUTIFUL and contrasty display. But sending mine back. I don't need a NEW trigger do things slower. A lot of it is just due to bad UI and unnecessary steps. For example: after a few seconds it will unselect the current group, so you have to select it again. Even if you have ONLY ONE group. That makes absolutely ZERO sense and adds annoying friction.

[@WesPerry]

Yeah I meant to mention the single group getting deselected thing. That kinda drives me crazy, too.

[@dominicpascal5512]

@@WesPerry even more annoying with multiple groups. imagine you have 3-4 groups. EVERY TIME you want to change the D group, you have to push button, go down from top, select group. auto deselecting makes no sense in no use case I can imagine.

[@WesPerry]

@dominicpascal5512 yeah I’m hoping the larger Pro version of this still comes with Both the group shortcuts on the left hand side And a touch screen. I’m probably asking for too much, though.

[@GregThurtle]

Love the idea of small form factor and built-in battery that lasts a long time. Ideal for when you aren't sure if you'll need ocf but want to have the option

[@edwardjmw]

My experience is that devices with batteries live longer then does with built in rechargeable batteries. When they get bad you can't replace them. Is that so?

[@WesPerry]

It is Possible to replace this battery. I took it apart and removed it myself. It’s not glued together. It’s also not strictly “user serviceable”. But I also don’t think there’s all that much to worry about here. Li-ion batteries tend to last for at least 300-1000 charge cycles. So with the really good battery life this has, most people are looking at charging this once every 2-6 weeks at best. So for a Very conservative estimate, the battery should last a minimum of 12+ years. I’m willing to bet that almost Any trigger is replaced in less time than that because something better or a new system entirely comes along. (Less conservative / more realistic estimate puts it at closer to 50 years… but I think we know li-ion chemistry is unlikely to last that long, so it’s not wear and tear that’s likely to end it, more just the limitations of the structure ends a li-ion battery somewhere between 10 and 20 years).

[@coolcat23]

I believe you are not knocking off enough points for the X3 for having been designed to be used with the right hand. Last time I checked, my camera had the grip on the right and whenever I'm holding it, my right hand appeares to be occupied doing just that. It is completely brain dead to place the dial on the wrong side of the trigger. What were they thinking? Is this for tripod use only?

[@WesPerry]

I knocked off less points there than I might have otherwise because I honestly hardly ever even use the buttons on the right, but instead just use the screen, which is totally workable. It would sure be Better if they were on the left though, for sure. Very odd choice. And would rather have the wheel the XT2 has. Much more ergonomic and fast.

[@jkahn923]

The wheel is very usable with left hand. Though you missed one big issue, the time it takes to turn on and off. It makes exposing ambient light a PITA for faced paced environments and unusable for real estate photography

[@graxxor]

I believe he is. Last time I checked, my left hand had four fingers pointing to the right whenever i'm operating my camera. And my fingers are quite long enough to reach the crown.

[@TooGood79]

Not sure if you mentioned this, but +1 for the X2T for having the additional slot atop the unit. I like filming BTS for my site and I use the hotshoe with an Insta360 and that allows me to connect it while using the flash trigger. Even rhinitis the X3 for most all of my shoots. I love that lil thing!!❤❤😊

[@WesPerry]

I did mention this, but not something I Personally use ;)

[@Piyal2020]

Great Review. Thank you for explaining

[@justinedomingo8975]

Anyone ever tried tt350 as a master trigger on small scene will it be better since it could also act as fill light vs the typical godox triggers

[@dvongrad]

I'm curious about what you think of using TCM on the triggers that support it.

[@WesPerry]

I can't say I've used it much on triggers, but I have used it a bit on the V1 Pro now. Previously I wouldn't use TTL much at all, but I find the V1 Pro is Finally Much more accurate and usable for that, so I'll occasionally do that.

[@tugwilson]

Hi Wes. Legacy Hotshoe and SHOOT L-858 mode are shown in the manual on the Godox web site. I imagine there will be a software update to add them soon.

[@the3xplorer]

Hi, Great video. Do you have any issues with auto balance with x3?

[@WesPerry]

@@the3xplorer I almost never use auto white balance with flash, so I wasn’t sure. I had assumed that would just make a mess of things. Used it extensively at tonight’s wedding reception and I’m actually surprised at how well it performed. Very mixed lighting and changing angles, so worst case scenario. I’d say about 1/10 photos are off. None in a set, though, those tended to be really close. Shooting with a7iv’s, one with 35GM one with 85GM

[@WesPerry]

@@the3xplorer oh, and using 2 AD200 Pro ii’s

[@psoon04286]

Wonder why the ‘focus assist beam’ is left out of the new X3. I’ve tried in a darkened room and all test shots were in focus and correctly exposed so maybe it really is unnecessary. I must add that due to its miniscule size navigating took a lot of trial and error

[@WesPerry]

There likely wasn’t much room for it, and they know that compatibility with modern mirrorless cameras has been greatly degraded anyway, so it only serves a very niche audience at this point.

[@HappeningPhotos]

Love the podcast and subscribed on day one. Here's a real-world question. Event work. Two Sony cameras with Flashpoint Zoom Li-on X (V1) flashes (TTL) roaming the ballroom. Two Zoom Li-on R2 IIIs (V860IIIs) or eVolv 200 Pros (AD200s) on stands (TTL). Now, how to add a third camera on a tripod and both release the shutter and trigger the off-camera flashes from anywhere in the room? I'm thinking Flashpoint Single Point Transceiver in RX mode cabled to camera's Multi-Terminal port, set to Group E, and triggered by R2-TIIS (X2T-S) in my pocket. Would this work? Would the off-camera flashes sync correctly with the remote camera? I don't yet have the 2.5mm release cable to try it out. What I have learned, though, is that my TTL speedlights will not fire when mounted on top of the Single Pin Transceiver, in RX mode, that's triggered by an R2-TIIS. I suspect the flash's Sony foot is incompatible with the single-pin hotshoe. I also found that my Single Pin Transceiver triggers only one of two speedlights about 1/3 of the time, even with fresh alkalines, and whether one, the other, or both fire seems quite random. Bleah. Any experience with this? Thanks to any and all who may offer insights!

[@WesPerry]

That wireless setup is actually used by a lot of sports photographers. I’ve done it myself a couple times for live ballet shoots. And yep, the Sony hot shoe is a bit of a compatibility nightmare, unfortunately. Which is hilarious, because it’s still more compatible than the old Minolta hot shoe they used initially 😂

[@HappeningPhotos]

​@@WesPerry Thanks! Release cable coming soon. I'll report back. BTW, I like your vibe on the podcast and share the dog-with-a-bone tenaciousness, but lack the electrical knowledge or tools to pursue it like you do.

[@jefoyacrobat]

Thanks you for this review✌️🙏

[@wingofwinter888]

thx you for this sir. been looking for autofocus assist lamp and this one has no autofocus assist.

[@jamesbruce]

Thanks for the video @WesPerry. Not sure if you use or have used these on Lumix cameras. There is a weird delay that occurs that single pin mode probably fixes, but oddly that would make the system useless for HSS. I never had the issue with the Nikon version, but with the lumix cameras it is pronounced. Do you know if the single pin mode at least fixes the delay for shooting below HSS sync mode? Thanks again, crazy detailed video.

[@WesPerry]

I’m afraid I’ve never used one with lumix, and haven’t even heard of this issue 🤔 Is this widespread?

[@jamesbruce]

@@WesPerry I think so. It is the strangest issue. I am ordering an xpro2 today to see if it has the problem. I will post once I know for sure. I usually don't photograph people, so it has not really been a problem, but I have several family shoots for the holidays lined up, and it is a really distracting issue. Thanks for the response.

[@jamesbruce]

@@WesPerry I am able to confirm that with the XPro2 in legacy mode, the flash fires as expected with Lumix S5II cameras (no shutter lag) and works up through 200th of a second with no banding. 250th of a second exhibits some banding at the bottom, and above 250th of a second the frame is black on the bottom half of the frame. HSS is disabled in this mode as well as TTL. As far as I can tell TTL and HSS still have a delay when legacy mode is disabled.

[@vasilisrroshi8642]

Just bought it together with the v860 iii😊😊😊

[@thomasjackson5963]

Amazing review Wes. So thorough! Thank you. I have an x2t and it might have a problem. Off camera ttl only works with one light. Multiple lights underexpose by over one stop. (Key light still 0 exposure comp background minus 1)ever had this problem on your Sony’s? It also fails to control flash zoom if that’s connected …

[@WesPerry]

I haven’t, but I don’t really use TTL all that often. You might want to check that all devices are up to date on firmware, though. Could be some miscommunication going on.

[@Just-SomeGuy]

I got to the subject of the battery and that was it for me, I'll stick with my XPro that takes AAs!

[@TheSunnySuttons]

I use a Sony mirrorless camera and I always start with an ambient exposure with the trigger turned off. Then I turn the trigger on and adjust my flash power to taste. Waiting 6 seconds for the X3 to turn on isn't a viable option for me. Sorry Godox but I'll have to stick to my XT2. Great comparison video Wes!!!! ❤

[@RyanREAX]

With newer sony mirrorless cameras you dont have to turn off the trigger (live preview or something i forget)

[@WesPerry]

Yeah I assign the live view preview to a button on the camera. But I used to just hit the power switch on the trigger instead.

[@skymakai]

Thank you so much for the spreadsheet. The lack of single pin mode is enough to avoid it for me. But, also interesting that there's no bluetooth for remote app control.

[@kurtlindner]

Integrated battery is such a huge detraction imo. It's great that the battery is replaceable, and I'm sure there _is_ something out there already as a direct replacement (no way they had a custom battery made for this thing), but what happens when you forget to charge it and are in the middle of a shoot -you wait, which isn't an option. But what do I know, I only remember when we hacked our Cactus triggers to make them take AA's instead of the obscure cell they came with specifically for this reason.

[@WesPerry]

I did address this to a degree in the video. Just a couple minutes of usb c charging would likely get you through an hour of shooting. And that battery pack is always in my camera bag anyway. Also, I would Never show up for a paid shoot with one camera or one trigger. I normally bring 2-3 triggers and 2-3 camera bodies (3 for weddings).

[@DuskoJovic]

I received it yesterday. It's a great product in every aspect. The only thing I expected to be better is the fit-it's still quite tight when attaching and detaching it from my camera. The button doesn't offer much assistance.

[@gintoxin]

My Godox XPROs often underexposes. Is this issue still present with the new Nano?

[@WesPerry]

@@gintoxin I’ve heard that before but have never experienced it myself with any of them 🤔 So I can’t say if it’s improved or not.

[@mcrjoker]

Hi, as I am into real estate photography, I am mainly concerned about one thing: Nobody mention it, is the "square" icon at the bottom middle clickable? Does it "pause" the controller so the camera thinks there is no flash attached? Is there a way to make camera think there is no flash attached apart from turning off and on the controller (pain in the a..). I need that to be able to tell if exposure for e.g. windows is correct or not...

[@marwasafwan8195]

For godox x3 how you can connect to godox flash app I need to connect his for control power of light from app .. godox x3 use this option yes or no

[@WesPerry]

X3 doesn’t have Bluetooth, so no app interfacing I’m afraid!

[@catalin-ap]

Very good and very useful video!

[@JFImagery]

I’m getting the X3. Very disappointed in the R2 Pro II, after about a year and a half the shoe fell apart in my hands. Never abused, in fact stayed on my A1 in the studio 90% of the time. Not cool.

[@WesPerry]

Wow that’s wild Hopefully this metal shoe does better My Pro2 has suffered a Lot of abuse in my bag and after a few years I broke a couple of the tiny Sony shoe pins but for some reason it still works fine 🤔

[@brittmurray9818]

I had just assumed they were copying Profoto with the new design. Interesting to hear that the quality is better, too. My biggest beef with the other triggers is that they keep breaking on me. Locking mechanism breaks, buttons falling out, etc. Good to hear that the new one may last a bit longer.

[@WesPerry]

Oddly I’ve only had one trigger break on me. An X1T that I dropped 6’ onto concrete. The battery contacts broke right off the circuit board. That’s about 1/8 in 7 years!

[@FerdinandTerreros]

How does the xproii compare to the westcott fjx3 s/m in terms of making adjustments on the fly i.e weddings, fast paced environments? Not alot of people/youtubers cover this topic

[@WesPerry]

FStoppers just did a comparison video. They glossed over a lot of stuff (as would be necessary to not make it nine hours long lol). The V1 Pro has a much higher resistance to overheating than anything but the Profoto at this point, though.

[@kevincaleroescoto9239]

For everyone that can helps: I got a X pro , i want to change it for this X3, the main issue with my X pro C it is that the battery wont last no even a quick session, ive tried with other batteries but its the same, (aprox 50-60 shots) anyone with this trigger got the same problem? i want to know if the problem its the trigger model or mines are defective

[@kennethnielsen3864]

My X2T has an ALL button, if you long prep the SET button

[@WesPerry]

Huh, it does! Has to be pressed for a rather inconvenient amount of time, but it works! Will add that to my addendums comment soon ;)

[@ghostfly97]

I just recently got the X3 for my Sony A7iii and love it, except I don’t know if this has happened to you, but sometimes when I turn it off to expose for the ambient and then turn it back on like I’ve done with all my past Godox triggers, it doesn’t trigger with my shutter. It triggers with the test button, but not the camera shutter. After like a while it connects itself back to the camera. I’ve had to go back to the XPro 2 😔. Firmware says 1.06

[@WesPerry]

This is an issue I’ve had with all godox triggers on my a7iv’s since i started using that body years ago. Never happened on my a7iii for some reason, and still never happens on my a9. I have to quickly pull it out of the hotshoe and slide it back in again. Which thankfully is a faster process with the X3 than with previous triggers. I avoid this now by mapping exposure preview to a button on the camera and use that instead of doing the old trigger off/on maneuver.

[@ghostfly97]

I thought it was just a faulty device and even bought a second one, but got the same result. will definitely try that Wes and I really appreciate it! @@WesPerry

[@donnawetter1513]

How about Ettl + HSS on Canon R camers, did Godox finally get that working?

[@DA-lp4rh]

does the new trigger have a single pin mode? I love being able to activate that on the current trigger to avoid frequent errors in auto WB - especially when I don't need HSS.

[@WesPerry]

Unfortunately not at this time. Not sure if this can or will be added later as a firmware update either.

[@dexon555]

I absolutely love my Nano, it’s the best trigger I’ve ever used.

[@WesPerry]

Awesome!

[@FrancisJayChavez]

I have a Sony ZV-E1 camera and Godox Sk400II what should i buy thanks for you help guys..

[@eternalincantation]

can you use it for other brands or is it only for godox strobes and flashes?

[@WesPerry]

It’s only for Godox

[@eternalincantation]

​@@WesPerry thanks a lot for the reply, how do I find a trigger that is suitable for all brands?

[@WesPerry]

@eternalincantation there is no such thing as a trigger that’s suitable for all brands. Many use totally different frequencies and/or protocols. I think there’s a Neewer one that works with both Neewer and godox, but not sure (because they copied it all right down to the last component)

[@eternalincantation]

​@@WesPerry thanks a lot for the reply, this just saved me from buying it

[@markglenday7291]

Hi Wes awesome video, however I have a question for you and your subscribers. I have a XPRON, now I have 1 x V1N and 2 x V860iiC which I run as OCF. Now the when I have the trigger on either of my Nikon bodies, D5 and D500 the trigger would not fire any of the flashes when in Manual mode, however it would fire all 3 only in I-TTL mode. When I put the the V1N on the bodies and use it as a master it will fire the V860iiC flashes in manual & I-TTL mode. Have you or any of your subscribers had this issue? I have a XPRO2 on order thank you Mark from Australia.

[@WesPerry]

That is an odd issue which Shouldn’t affect you. Are all the devices up to date on firmware?

[@markglenday7291]

@@WesPerry thanks Wes I shall check that, never thought about that. Awesome thanks again

[@mhand7]

Hey Wes, amazing video! Is there a quick way to toggle a single group off and on, like double tapping the group button on the X2T?

[@WesPerry]

@@mhand7 there doesn’t seem to be at this time. Hopefully they could add double tap in a firmware update?

[@mhand7]

@@WesPerry I saw you can scroll down to the next group when in the single view so I guess that is almost as quick! Thanks for the reply and very detailed video!! Top work!

[@jayt2266]

Focus assist seems like an odd omission given its included in older models. too bad. You mention an X3 pro a few times, heard something?

[@WesPerry]

@@jayt2266 I have heard nothing. But time and technology inexorably marches on…

[@erdolion]

Nice review, thanks.

[@coolcat23]

12:20 I don't think the "less intuitive" criticism has any merit for anyone but first time users. Once one has used the device for a bit, pressing the group buttons becomes second nature and is quicker than moving between buttons on the side and the bottom all the time. Devices should be designed to be quick to operate for normal users, as opposed to being the most intuitive for complete novices.

[@WesPerry]

I think devices should and could be Both.

[@coolcat23]

@@WesPerry "Both", yes, if possible. However, one cannot place the group buttons at the "intuitive" locations (some of them are offset to the screen rows) and have them as quickly accessible (considering the dial and "OK" are frequently used) as they are on the R2ProII at the same time. If a compromise has to be made, I'd say make it better for the non-novice user because most users will be novices only for a relatively short period.

[@EphraimSyriacus]

Are these also compatible with the Pixapro RIKO400?

[@WesPerry]

As far as I know all Godox and pixapro devices are fully cross compatible.

[@EphraimSyriacus]

@WesPerry thank you very much! I e-mailed them to make it sure. My local shop said to just buy it and if not compatible then return the product. Do you have any advice which receiver to use with the X3?

[@WesPerry]

@EphraimSyriacus doesn’t the 400 have a receiver built in?

[@EphraimSyriacus]

@@WesPerry hehe I was looking at their website and suddenly saw the answer on my first question: Please Note: PiXAPRO Flash and Triggering Systems are fully compatible with Godox 2.4GHz Triggers, which will allow you to mix both Godox and PiXAPRO Equipment together without issue. But no it doesn't have an internal receiver I think.

[@EphraimSyriacus]

@@WesPerry I thought I replied. No it hasn't. And Pixapro and Godox are fully cross compatible according to the manufacturer. I will go for the X3 then, the X Pro 2 is a little bit cheaper but for the comfortable size of the X3 I go for that one.

[@gixster92]

great video. one issue i am noticing and I cant figure out. my X3 jumps out of HSS and I end up taking a blown out image. I know to pay attention but dont know what im doing to make that happen. Have you or any of your viewers have this happen to them?

[@WesPerry]

I’ve heard this from a bunch of people and it finally happened to me for the first time yesterday. This after probably 6000 shots on three camera bodies and two different X3’s. Very odd. But glad I knew what happened given the feedback from others. I assume it’s just a hotshoe connection error, but not sure.

[@gixster92]

@@WesPerry well it just happens and I don't think I am bouncing the camera around to jar the hot shoe.

[@WesPerry]

@gixster92 I would assume it just as often has to do with dirty or corroded contacts in the hotshoe. Not sure, though.

[@dentreveal3820]

Does the X3-s works for Godox MF12 twin macro flash?

[@WesPerry]

@@dentreveal3820 it does yes

[@duoimperial4412]

Hello, first of all, thank you for all the content you share. One thing regarding this GODOX XPRO II, the modeling icon that usually appears at the bottom right does not appear. Why could that be? Thanks in advance and greetings from Spain.

[@davidhead5751]

Anyone else have the issue where the x3 overexposes when using tcm. Mine overexposes by a full stop of light. My Xpro-N never does this. The initial ttl exposure is fine but when I switch to manual it’s overexposed.

[@kanitdechkhum1690]

Hi there . I’m using it with z8 and miss fired so many times . I have change the setup to long distance or close distance still miss fired . Anyone ? Thank you

[@WesPerry]

Which trigger, this one? Have you done a channel scan?

[@WesPerry]

A friend of mine with a Z8 found that the most recent firmware greatly improved the camera's reliability with his Godox transmitters.

[@kanitdechkhum1690]

Hi thank you for your reply . I have a session yesterday so I decided to bring the nano trigger again . I did try channel scan and I change the channel to what it show . Then I miss fired like crazy lol . Luckily I brought my old trusty R2 trigger switch back to that and work with no issue . I guess z8 firmware could use and update . I have not update the firmware on the camera yet because I am using Sony lens adaptor as well .

[@susanbyrne7946]

Really good comparison

[@fostervf16]

Do you know if the X3 will work with a receiver like X1r or the Flashpoint R2 transceiver? And can you please explain single pin. Is that the legacy hot shoe thing? What does it do? And if you look at the Godox manual online for the r3 you'll see a legacy hot shoe setting. Which apparently is missing from the r3 and a bit of false advertising. They even show the screen with it as an option. Maybe it was removed as a feature or possibly will be in a firmware update.

[@WesPerry]

This should work with any of the current / existing X series godox devices as any of the other triggers would. The biggest problem with these reviews and comparisons is one firmware update is all it takes to make it all obsolete 😂 Single pin basically makes the transmitter no longer appear to the camera, just receiving a dumb signal, no ttl or exposure comp. Which can be good for some things, and can make some problematic cameras more reliable.

[@billchiles7734]

Hey Wes, did you know that after a wifi scan you can just tap the channel from the list to select it? The X3 takes some getting used to and I still sometimes change flash settings instead of swiping screens. But I think I just need more practice.

[@WesPerry]

Oh nice!

[@Peter0711DE]

Also der X3 Trigger sieht zwar schick aus und der wiederaufladbare Akku ist schon ein Fortschritt gegenüber normalen Batterien, wobei man dann auch sehen muss, ob man diesen nach einem Akkutod leicht tauschen kann oder dann den ganzen Apparat wegwerfen muss. Aber meiner Meinung nach ist das auch schon alles! Ich habe sowohl den XPro, den X2T, den XPro II als auch den R2pro II von Flashpoint ( den ich glücklicherweise gebraucht bekommen konnte, da der in Europa nicht zu bekommen ist). Ich benutze am liebsten diesen, da er einige sinnvolle Buttons besitzt und Funktionen erlaubt, die mit den original Godox Sendern nicht verfügbar sind. Es ist nur schade, dass die Firmware dafür offenbar seit etwa 2 Jahren nicht mehr weiterentwickelt wird. Ich hatte den X3 jetzt mal testweise und hab das Ding nach einem Shooting schon wieder zurück gegeben. Die Bedienung mit dem winzigen Touchscreen ist grauenhaft. Wenn man nicht dauernd genau zielt, tippt man daneben und verliert sich schnell irgendwo in einem der unübersichtlichen Untermenüs. Man muss ständig genau auf das winzige Display starren, was wahnsinnig ablenkt. Die anderen Sender kann ich mittlerweile fast blind bedienen und bin damit wesentlich schneller am Ziel. Und wer Angst hat, sich das Display zu verkratzen, für den gibt es inzwischen passende Schutzfolien. Die Bluetooth- Funktionalität bringt nicht allzuviel ( ausser, dass die Batterien schneller leer werden), da die Godox / Flashpoint App so schlecht programmiert sind, dass man davon Hirnkrebs bekommt. Und für die AA Batterien gibt es auch jetzt Li Ionen Akkus, die ebenfalls 1,5 Volt liefern. Damit arbeiten die Sender einwandfrei. Für mich geht Godox da etwas in eine falsche Richtung. Sinnvoller wäre gewesen, die XPro Reihe mit einem schönen kontrastreichen OLED Display auszustatten, was die Ablesbarkeit verbessern würde. Das wäre sinnvoll gewesen.