EVERY HORUS HERESY FACTION in Fifteen Minutes | Heresy 101

[@AeromatterYT]

So glad you emphasised the role of non-space marines in the conflict. I'd love to make a sol-aux or militia army that turned traitor just because they got tired of the arrogant marines they were supporting 😆

[@filwilliamson9149]

Clearly your militia never fought alongside the Salamanders lmao.

[@jnev5572]

@@filwilliamson9149 daddy & communication issues are a hallmark of 40k and there's only so many wholesome flamey bois :( to stem the tide

[@nehrigen]

...the traitor marines tended to treat their auxiliaries quite a bit worse... just imagine being an auxiliary assigned to night lords or the absolutely twisted ones like death guard or word bearers...

[@surelylune]

@@jnev5572 the eldar child that vulkan immolated would probably take issue with the description of "wholesome flamey bois"

[@funbro99]

@@surelylune xenos not welcomed

[@Delveintohobby]

HH has such a devoted playerbase in my area. It's very inspiring to walk in the FLGS and see a massive Imperial Fist diorama/army display right in front of you

[@livanbard]

yeah but they all play the same 4 legions.

[@40kWarpHeroes]

not much variety in the game no one really plays it around me plus its 80% forgeworld

[@SamsButterscotch]

Really cool video, can't wait for each legion's individual video (if those will be a thing). Hopefully 30k/HH garners enough attention this year to get some good (strategy) videogames in the setting sometime.

[@Recovery15]

Idk I'd take a large scale fps set in the heresy era, something like old school battlefront 2

[@kaiserinmargot]

Perhaps one where you have to deal with a few solar systems, defending them, first by space battle, then ground battle of it fails etc

[@Recovery15]

@@kaiserinmargot exactly! Bit of old school galactic conquest, with like boarding actions for the space battles

[@КириллМайоров-т1ц]

, н8 7

[@КириллМайоров-т1ц]

8ор оп.

[@TheKingsPride]

The one thing I hope this new edition brings with it is the ability for the Dark Angels to field Excindio Automata. For those not in the loop, the Excindio were literally the AI that almost destroyed humanity during the age of technology, neutered and shackled to a robot body that made Necron Destroyers look like teddy bears. The Dark Angels literally had to carry a kill switch for them at all times to prevent them from taking their hate out on “friendly” units, and they were only deployed by the Dreadwing under the most pressing of circumstances, like trying to kill a crazy primarch.

[@element7202]

They got new rules in the pdf, no unit but I would just convert a domitar maybe with some iron circle bits and chains.

[@SamuelRU]

Ian's channel has been one of my new favorite 40k content creators, making short-enough-to-make-you-want-more content with the perfect intersection of lore, models, and quality

[@wraithship]

I still wish eldar and especially Orks were officially supported Yes it's preheresy, Battles like ullanor were pivotal in the history of the imperium

[@maximusprime98]

I don't imagine they've changed much 40'000 years in the past. Could probably just play a normal 40k Ork or Eldar army.

[@wraithship]

@@maximusprime98 orcs haven't changed much but this, depending on the time was possibly before the full adoption of the eldar path as that had to be spread by Asurmen and the Phoenix lords

[@rudolfambrozenvtuber]

​@@maximusprime98 Eldar would'vd changed radically whatever the novels tell you. The fall of the empire was basically yesterday in Eldar time when the Heresh rolled around

[@pagancrew]

Did I hear "IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL VIDEOS"!? You spoil us. Very much looking forward to that.

[@ArbitorIan]

Yup. Just finishing the DA and EC ones now!#

[@TheToxicP]

Thousand Sons are kind of weird in Horus Heresy, mainly because they were loyalists when the Space Wolves attacked them (Burning of Prospero) and as a legion they didn't do much afterwards as a traitor legion. Sure, they might have created a few stories for Magnus to make him a little more relevant but that is about it (and really, Magnus's biggest help was inadvertenly screwing over Big Es grand plans when Magnus tried to warm the Emperor of Horus's betrayal).

[@roosterbooster6238]

Horus managed to screw over two loyal legions with one stroke

[@Caseyuptobat]

Magnus did nothing wrong, and he still managed to fuck things up.

[@skeletorrobo]

The Thousand Sons took part in the Invasion Force that attacked Earth.

[@ianbyrne465]

You know. I never really got the appeal of Horus Heresy as a game, since I only ever really saw it from afar as a “40K side-game” but this is actually pretty cool. It’s neat to see a more dense, crunchy game that also explores the factions (especially the SMs, but everyone too, since this is pre-crazy-religious-devotion Imperium) as they were, seeing how Chaos legions were before being formally corrupted, and how all the groups weren’t as “specialized” as they would become. I may need to give this a try!

[@1Korlash]

Ian, you might like Liberation Force, a Shattered Legion rite in HH book 6 p. 196. Representing pro-Loyalist locals rallying behind a small Raven Guard force to take down their cruel traitorous rulers, it gives all Militia units Fearless when they're within 6" of an Astartes unit. It's the only rite currently available that shows Space Marines not using bog-standard humans as meatshields (even if you the player can still do that).

[@grimbeasties5313]

Before this video I had no idea about Black Shields or Militia & Cults armies! Both of these sound like super fun armies to build and convert all sorts of crazy things. The concept behind them sounds like something that would work great for other GW games too

[@Tsotha]

me neither!

[@malcolmhaldin717]

Excellent video as always. I hope to see more about the Blackshields.

[@RedMeansRecording]

Yay more legion and faction videos like this please

[@thomas.moerman]

Didn't expect to meet you here mr Blake, a glitch in the matrix or a coincidental convergence of my preferred youtube subcultures? We share at least 3: synths, bikes and warhammer! ;-)

[@KaeEbonrai]

Really excited to give the heresy a go with the new edition, thinking of doing the blackshield army I've always kinda meant to do!

[@rrsjr]

I like your channel. I'm not into gaming, but I'm into lore, whether fictional or actual history, and these Warhammer universes are just so damned full of lore that I enjoy just learning about them immensely, even without playing any of the games or reading any of the books. I do, however, watch the animated content on Warhammer+ and really love it. These continuae are so well fleshed-out when it comes to expressions of humanity, philosophy, politics, sociology and myth, that they are in many ways, to me, just as edifying as actual history. Thanks, mate.

[@stewroo]

Finding out that you will be covering each legion individually within the context of the thirtieth millennium is such fantastic news. We've all heard the stories many times but I believe that bolstered by your manner and sense of humour, these future records will prove to be a valuable addition to the discourse. I'm certainly looking forward to your perspective, particularly as regarding my beloved Night Lords.

[@donotinteract7851]

Fanstastic as always mate. Was about to start delving into HH after re-reading some of the novels and this is exactly what I needed as a jumping-off point to help decide on a legion. Cheers.

[@JasmineRGBLights]

Eyyy the Cubes of Tzeentch! I was on the (sadly now lost) WargamerAU forums back in the day when that project was launched, GODS the absolute frothing at the mouth over whether that army was legit to bring to a tournament was a sight to behold. Anyway, great video as always!

[@ArbitorIan]

Cubes of Tzeentch was AMAZING. I remembered it from Dakka and yeah, the complaining was hilarious. One of the best proxy armies I've ever seen (apart from googly eye pipe cleaner Bloodletters)

[@kentube2024]

I don't play WH, but these videos are still highly entertaining for 40k lore nerds like myself. Keep it up, looking forward to more 101 vids!

[@Tsotha]

As someone who hasn't been into 40K since 3rd/4th edition, this is very interesting to look at the Horus Heresy factions... for example how the Heresy era Space Marines are much more "Ancient Rome" in their look and organisation (complete with the officers having titles like Praetors and Centurions) or how the Imperial Guard did not really exist back then. To say nothing of the Adeptus Mechanicus having units that are as out of place in the 40K setting as anything the Tau have.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Technically in a sense the Imperial Gaurd did exist back then, the only real difference was that it was known as the Imperial Army.

[@drunkenwoodelf]

I love how the adeptus mechanicus have genuine AI driven robots in this era, iirc, they weren't banned until later in the history.

[@adamhanson5565]

Been wanting to start converting up a Ruinstorm army, but I want to see what 2nd Ed does to them before jumping into that project. I'm excited to see where it goes.

[@Jonas_Fox]

Wow. I had no clue the Horus Heresy was anything more than some novels. I really like the more nuanced and creative the approach seams. I look forward to learning more. Thanks for putting this together.

[@ryanmarquez9404]

Chaos needed two chapters fighting themselves for the Hersey to work...the space wolves and the thousand sons. People shit on the wolves but remember chaos was scared of their fighting abilities and the Tson pykker powers.

[@onua2012sga]

And yet the beauty/tragedy is Chaos executed it perfectly. One loyalist legion devastated and another annihilated and converted. Chaos’ whole thing in the Heresy is all the manipulation it needed to do to defeat the Imperium, it couldn’t simply engage in direct combat the whole time. And Chaos (not their Traitor pawns) won.

[@bonsai_warrior]

Great start to hopefully a great series. I started my 40K adventure back in 2nd Ed. Did some 3rd & 4th Ed stuff too, but then had a break from Warhammer for a decade or two. I missed out in the big development of the Heresy setting, so I'm really looking forward to this series.

[@Michael_Raymond]

On rewatch I can't believe you just glossed over the sentient bricks at 15:18 like that and left us hanging

[@brandonr.2807]

great video! Been playing Heresy for years but always great to see new videos on it. You earned a new subscriber =) would love some legion deep dives, currently deciding on which loyalist legion to do after 3 straight traitor armies.

[@KabinMiniatures]

Great video to show people new to HH or just 40K in general. Can't wait to paint some HH Era Night Lords!

[@hansyolo8277]

I really hope the new edition keeps this, as it appears to me, sense of customization and narrative fluff in army lists, and does not go the way of current 40k meta chasing. I like the idea of the limitations shown in this video, based on what faction and sub-faction you are, as well as how you build your leaders. I hope that stays.

[@filwilliamson9149]

There have been a bunch of leaks for loyalist and traitor marine rules, as well as core rules. There is still a large amount of customization for units, Consuls are still a thing, and rites of war remain. For Legion rules, they seem to have removed the drawbacks to legion traits, like how Sons of Horus couldn't receive buffs from non-Sons of Horus, but the traits themselves are still pretty unique. Also, each legion gets its own Advanced Reaction which only they can use, unless you're Alpha Legion in which case you steal one (according to leaks). A lot of the unique units remain as well, and they still have plenty of unique flair to them. Same goes for characters, and to me it seems that they've expanded on the diversity of unique character traits.

[@hansyolo8277]

@@filwilliamson9149 That sounds good, lets hope the rules will be better than current 40k then, thats my biggest concern.

[@filwilliamson9149]

@@hansyolo8277 From what I’ve seen the rules are still very similar to the current Horus Heresy rules, so if your idea of better than current 40k is that type of rule set then you should be good to go. Edit: The main change that I can think from what I’ve seen so far is the inclusion of Reactions.

[@dmeep]

Your playgroup will dictate if you agree to play fluffy stuff or if its list optimization and winning that becomes important. A suggestion for playing for 40k is crusade narrative and having the loser get reinforcements and upgrades so balance out any difference in skill lvl. We played fightinggames like tekken/streetfighter at uni were the winner had to drink a certain amount of beer for each round won negating difference in skill with drunk fingers and reflexes. If your faction pour in more resources at a defeat instead of the winner getting a shiny new relic blade it should prevent snowballing and lvl the playing field even for those with older codexes.

[@vegancam]

This is brilliant! More please! I'm well versed in lore from the Rogue Trader era on and love the Horus Heresy as an extremely deep exploration of the background of the Emperor, the Primarchs and ultimately the Space Marines and the Imperium of the 41st Millennium. But I have never really delved into the Forge World background books or the rules set as they've come out over the years so having these more army list sided things explained is very interesting. Absolutely will be waiting with bated breath for more Heresy videos, Sir.

[@platypuspaints]

I didn’t know about the Blackshields before this video. Now I’m really interested! This is the background I was missing for my custom 40k ”chapter”.

[@drunkenwoodelf]

I've played 40k like... for nearly a decade now, despite this, I consider myself to have bounced off of the game aspect of it, I've never wanted to make an army for the sake of making an army, always to play with my friends and have some models to paint. That said. I involuntarily squeeled in glee when you said "you can have space marines with shuriken launchers" This entire video got me more hyped for 30k then I ever thought I'd be, I wanna make a combined death guard, emperors children loyalist army, if possible. I always did like Garro's lore, but my love for the Emp's Children will never die.

[@Nemoknowsnothing]

I stayed on this channel for the intro music, subscibed for the content

[@volcano3493]

I loved those "esoteric" demons at the end of the video. :)

[@circus_of_paint]

Really good video Ian, glad you delved into some of the nuance that HH has beyond just Marine vs Marine!

[@JersyCityDevil]

Really lookig forward to the next parts of this series. Good job!

[@Nekorook]

i look forward to it. Just started reading the horus heresy books and i am very excited for the reboot.

[@jayanno-m5k]

Awesome video, had no idea horus heresy was so in depth and cool. Always figured it was a more restrictive version of 40k

[@MesaOracle]

There is more to the heresy than just space marines. Space Marine: HERESY DETECTED!

[@OldManRogers]

Thorough overview, subscribed!

[@qwellen7521]

That Blacksheilds concept could an interesting idea to revive in 40k - space marines that go rouge but don’t fall to chaos.

[@GustavSvard]

Going rouge, or even just losing contact with the rest of the Imperium for a long time - without falling to Chaos. Or remnants of more than one chapter (that got wiped out) finding eachother, banding together, and having to protect a world or three from xenos without Imperial support or even contact? The galaxy is a big place.

[@ScooterinAB]

That is basically my Chaos army. I'm using the old Red Corsairs concept, where they are more renegade than Chaos, and while the army is built around a few Chaosy things (like my Death Company Khorne Berzerkers, or the captain being in league with a Chaos tainted Warpsmith), it's mostly played straight. My Helbrutes are just Dreadnoughts. The captain is an unmarked Chaos Lord. Stuff like Daemon Engines are going to be more techno-heresy than full blown daemon nonsense. Although I do wish GW would explore the rogue but not Chaos angle more. The Red Corsairs are just the new Black Legion now, and Space Marines doubled down on being Space Marines after Primaris Marines came out. I really wish that had caused a civil war that wasn't fueled by the Ruinous Powers, so that players could have Marine armies fighting other Marine armies more easily.

[@F1fty]

It is very possible to do this in 40k anyway. Model a marine or chaos marine army how you want it, and just call them renegades. Or, even better, call them secessionists and play the Badab War.

[@F1fty]

I'm also planning an army of renegades lost in Imperium Nihilus using Deathwatch rules but not Deathwatch paint schemes to represent the still loyal, but only kinda, survivors from a bunch of different chapters who have banded together to survive.

[@ScooterinAB]

@@F1fty There are Deathwatch rules?

[@TronsTableTop]

What an awesome video. Can't wait for the faction specific ones!

[@jimi1701a]

Awesome vid. Looking forward to the individual legion vids. 🤟

[@neilkirkley1500]

Brilliant video, subbed

[@keenandonahue149]

Thanks Ian, great video!

[@Grubenhaus]

Fantastic video, can't wait for the rest of the series!

[@Bluecho4]

As I commented on the Horus Heresy Plastics video, when building an Imperialis Militia or Cults army, you aren't limited to GW models. (I mean, you're never _really_ limited to only GW models. It's a game, you can play with whatever you like.) But specifically here, your human troops can be taken from across the galaxy, from a myriad different cultures folded into the nascent Imperium. As such, so long as your gaming group -isn't anal about it- is okay with it, you can use whatever human-y model range you like to represent your Militia or Cult. Historical miniatures are really useful for this, as they are cheap, plentiful, come in loads of varieties, and can usually be kitbashed into compliance (heh heh) fairly easily. (There are many third party bits sellers, like Anvil Industries or Victoria Miniatures. But I also point to Wargames Atlantic, who have a plastic sprue of futuristic weapons for a low price, among many other great products.) Given that many established Horus Heresy tournaments in the last few years were unofficial ones, I imagine many of them may be less dogmatic about third party miniatures. Although that being said, there's also a good chance some of them might be particularly salty about you showing up with a kitbashed army of historicals that cost much less, while they paid a fortune on Forgeworld resin. I wouldn't let that discourage you - let them be mad - but know that if there's enough of those people in your local HH gaming scene, they may have the weight of consensus on their side. So, ask around about this *before* you commit to a big army.

[@F1fty]

You're right, and it was not that long prior to Covid lockdowns that I used an entire Anvil Industry Militia army at mine and Ian's gaming club (HATE). Ian himself has posted an army profile of his Custodes which are predominantly Scibor. I think the video he did was best as all-Citadel for people to whom that matters. A video of alternatives would be good too though, like another video of his where he looked at alternative squat models.

[@Jose_Herraez]

Awesome video. I have high hopes for the new Horus Heresy edition.

[@ReverendMeat51]

Awesome, started reading the HH series a year ago, almost through SoT now. Curious about the game, can't wait for more videos about it

[@noserenda]

Fingers crossed we all make it through to the new edition!

[@DisgruntledDepressed]

Nice little descriptions of the legions.

[@justindavies6012]

Brilliant! Thank you. Looks like I'm going to be Heresy player then...

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Looking forward to your individual legion videos. Cheers!

[@Inquisdrknss]

Heresy era I really like Dark Angels, the look and the lore is my favorite. Thousand Sons (my 40k army) are still neat though.

[@timothyyoung2962]

For me, my two favorite ways to indulge in 40k are mainly either during the Horus Hersey age or to take old Rogue Trader and play games in that first edition "world". Those two areas just seem to grant the largest areas to kind of do what you want and make your army your own.

[@vegancam]

40K will always be Rogue Trader for me, just with lots of extra background details, but it will always be that same feel that was established in that first book. In my Imperium there will always be the odd needle pistol and grav gun here or there, and a haywire grenade or two. If not on a model, at least in my mind.

[@jack-a-lopium]

But aren't *YOU* the general? Those lads do whatever you want of them, they're whatever you make of them...

[@GatecrasherPod]

Excellent overview. Really excited for Heresy

[@WilCornish]

Can't wait for those individual videos! Would be cool if the order was randomised a bit, too (Mostly because it ups my odds of the XIX coming out sooner)

[@ArbitorIan]

Yeah, er..... MIGHT be editing Dark Angels and Emperor's Children, but I'm totally planning to have them all done before the game comes out!!

[@adambourne5523]

:O the prettiest transport in the game is the Caestus! You take that back!

[@KateHolden]

Oh yes! Really looking forward to this series!

[@ellisowendaniel]

An enjoyable watch! You’ve done the Heresy a great service.

[@stillunsure7630]

A great send off to the Heresy 1st edition factions and always good to hear about others Militia forces.

[@keymer91]

I'm hyped for this new heresy, I'm finally going to start playing it

[@brettgreen5044]

15:11 "Bloodletters"

[@eberwald4438]

Took me 30 seconds to snap to that. o7 salute to whoever made that army.

[@shmello_]

Perfect timing! This is exactly what I needed!

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

I'm really considering getting into Heresy with the new plastic kits, and if 2nd edition doesn't work out, I can always go back to 1st!

[@happyharibo1330]

Those that are familar with the acepted Lore of The 4Ok universe of The Horus Heracy back story know this. The post-human quasi immortal Emperor of Mankind creates twenty legions of pseudo-monastic Arstartes Warriors colloquially known as "Space Marines". According to legend, When "Warmaster" Horus rose against his Emperor, nine legions remained loyal to their god-like monarch. Another nine stood with the Warmaster and succumed to the forces of Chaos. The 2nd and 11th legions went missing without a trace. But now they are back. They serve neither the God Emperor or the Chaos Blight. Instead they serve the Proletariat . The Sons of Scargill and Comrades of Corbyn....

[@aidandalton6526]

Been watching the channel for a while, only yesterday realised it’s called arbitor Ian, not arbitor Lan 😂

[@muratferguson4534]

cant wait about more legion videos to come.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSS

[@notnubilous3804]

That Blood God daemon army always gets me lol

[@Wowthatsfunnylol121]

Ian, you probably won't read this, but I credit you as the single largest reason I've become a 40K fan. I was first (unknowingly) exposed via the Astartes animation, but had honestly avoided it because the universe seemed a bit idiotic, oversaturated, and confusing (still is). However your videos have made content so much more digestible and allowed me to pick up and focus on my favorite parts. Buying my first army soon :)

[@F1fty]

He reads most of the comments. Hopefully he'll see this!

[@LG-rg4ut]

Xenos of the Great Crusade, AUS30K Xenos Lists- there is some fantastic fan content you left out.

[@namefinder]

Yes I'm coming from 40k and wonder what all the fuzz is about :D I didn't expect so much... flexibility(?) within the legions. But does it make sense to e.g. have a White Scars army with a bunch of land raiders?

[@ArbitorIan]

Yeah, totally. The legion traits are quite general so they don't JUST apply to the one method of war they're known for, you're not losing out on power or something. Plus, of course, the scene tends to be built around narrative events rather than competitive tournaments so there's less of a requirement to pick the most optimal combo.

[@namefinder]

@@ArbitorIan that's great, my hype level for the new HH version now reach over 9000! :D I've always been more interested in the narrative aspect of 40k and leave chasing the meta to others.

[@violetsunprops]

Stripped down hot-rodded White Scars land raiders is a really interesting idea...

[@nekrataali]

Makes sense considering legions had access to so much hardware and personnel since they were way larger than their 40k descendants. Now that I think about it, I could imagine there were more land raiders used during an individual campaign during the Heresy than there are land raiders among all the current loyalist chapters combined.

[@rolo8950]

Well this was a brilliant video.

[@PrimordialNightmare]

I never managed to get into 40k back in 3rd? 4th? 5th? edition, whenever the demon hunter Codex got replaced by the grey knights codex, and when I recently set my eyes on 40k again I things had changed a lot. decided to wait out until 10th edition before checking it out, but now I'm seeing the Horus Hersy stuff and I'm intrigued. A shame that I won't be able to play the grey knights there, considering the whole not existing yet thing. but the militia & cults looks very interesting, as do the black shields. hmmmmm

[@lfemomo77]

Amazing content as always

[@G.I.Jojo707]

Can you do a video about all you know about the two erased primarchs? And your theories/speculations?

[@ArbitorIan]

I mean, I'm gonna have to do SOMETHING when we get to Legions II and XI :)

[@alphaprimus7794]

I personally can't wait to see what GW brings out regarding the Mechanicum!

[@AsterixCodix]

A thing to note about the Militia Ogryns: The book states that they don't even need to be actual Ogryns, just big chunky bastards

[@DNero13]

Only a year into 40k and its so sick, HH is arguably more interesting (although maybe after digging it isn't because you dint have all of the xenos etc as involved such as Nids) - kinda feel like GW cant miss the opportunity to do the HH as its cool af and a money maker, but it should be more of a side thing or like collectibles rather than trying to be 40k as they could end up competing

[@drunkenwoodelf]

Couldn't help but notice that if you give marines the friend zone special rule they gain the ability to virgin rage.

[@johnjmccarthy7165]

Awesome vid.

[@philipkelly7369]

I wish I had the cash to make a Solar Auxilia army. They are so my jam. But there is just no way I can justify the price. Not when I could get two other armies for the same cost, maybe more, and that's even just if I stayed with GW and payed inflated GW prices.

[@abramnotabraham2253]

As someone with little interest in space marines and no interest in the Heresy: damn, maybe I should look into this Heresy thing after all...

[@jamesgordley5000]

I wish those 30k vehicles were the default 40k vehicles. When looking at them, they somehow appear more classically and properly 40k to me in style, than many vehicles that have actually been made for the current setting. They look oldfangled/antiquated and grim, but also like they might have appeared in old-timey 40k artwork (even if they Forge World invented them decades later).

[@Tsotha]

30K definitely looks more distinct from a standard modern science fiction aesthetic than present day 40K models

[@shade419]

Great video, looking forward to your legion videos (Particularly the 16th! Illuminate them, Lupercal!) Humerously disapproving of your non-inclusion of the Titan Legios :P

[@McHrodik]

Wih this 'blackshields' and 'shattered legions' options, I see a HUGE potential, lore-wise, to play as at least former astartes from the II and XI forgotten legions...

[@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039]

The biggest downside to playing Daemons of the Ruinstorm is that few of the required base sizes are used by current 40k/AOS Daemon models (so you can't proxy without handwaving this). This includes calls for 24mm, 50mm oval, 50mm, 70mm, and 100mm

[@willtomgames]

i do space wolves for 40k so if i ever get into horus heresy i might do a traitor legion, maybe the iron warriors or world eaters

[@chibizion]

Hope this leads to your evolution of Heresy art video!

[@athollmcnicoll1028]

In other words a completely new system to wade through and learn, as brother meets brother on the battlefield and wages war, using simplified weaponry of the past era.

[@valtsu5752]

I demand more 30k content. MOAR

[@ArbitorIan]

I'M MAKING IT AS FAST AS I CAN!!!!!

[@AndrewMcColl]

Imperial Militia has certainly helped keep the Squat flame alive through the dark times. Abhuman Zealots deserves some kind of award for going above an beyond.

[@ArbitorIan]

Yeah, with the new Squats on the way my little old metal guys are gonna be Heresified with that exact provenance.... If it still exists!

[@razmere924]

Wow, these rules sound super cool! I wonder why I never got into playing HH? *sees the prices of leather bound tomes that make up the rule books and the price of ForgeWorld resin. OH. THAT's why.

[@tinyfishhobby3138]

For what it’s worth, it’s entirely possible to build a plastic only Horus Heresy army. (Ian’s even got a video on this!) The “red books” are much cheaper, and the black books themselves are 300-page, faux leatherbound, oversize hardcovers with illustrations throughout. They’re absolutely worth it.

[@re1v3r]

We miss you, Sanguinius ❤️ 😭

[@the_9ent]

Ian, love the content. Would you consider reaction videos to Warhammer 40k videos in the future? Cheers

[@happyharibo1330]

Most 40k fans are famliar with the destuctive a sudden strike of Space Marines can bring, whether Traitors or Loyalists. A Strike by the Sons of Scargil (The legendary missing Second Legion) and it's offshot 'Unions' (synonymous with chapters in loyalist marines). Picture a marauding horde of towering Khornite Beserkers bellowing their signature chant of More Blood for the blood God. The chant is halted by a snide derisive snort of great volume. These infamous traitor marines become aware of a row of merrily burning oil drums with hunched figures in full Power Armour warming their bared but still gigantic hands upon the heat provided. Each has a giant placard bearing a slogan. Then the Shop Steward (Functionally a Librarian or Chaplain) speaks in a voice like Sean Bean.. "More blood? More blood? When will it be enough blood? And you know whose blood it will be? The blood of the working warrior that's whose. If this Khorne wants blood so bad, would it kill him to get his fat bourgeois bum crack out of the Eye of Terror and do some honest graft? Who controlls the means of destruction? And where is the blood you earned by the sweat of your honest proletariat fist. More blood? More blood for the Working Marine. And that fat bastard is not paying it to you!"

[@jonbaxter2254]

i goddamn love chapter names in 40k

[@Grislythrone]

At 8:23 where is the 2nd and 11th Legions? Or is it two typos

[@ArbitorIan]

Nope, 2 and 11 MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEAR during the crusade

[@Grislythrone]

@@ArbitorIan ahhhh very interesting! Thanks for the reply and great video

[@nonso3396]

Love your videos on the Legions mate.. Though I've never been able to figure why in multiple of your videos you've kept repeating that the Rout are the only ones who see themselves as the emperor's executioners. Not sure if you read the novels at all or just the codices & other materials like that, but in the over 30 HH books I've read, I only recall like 2 instances they referred to themselves as such & like 10 times that where others- cousin legionnaires, tech priests, civilians, etc refer to them as the emperor's executioners or the Emperor unleashing his wolves again. So really not sure where the "it's just them who think so" always comes from.. But yeah, you do really good work tho

[@errantvice7335]

Still waiting for the day Heresy adds xenos factions to it. If they brought back squats anything can happen at this point, and by the emperor I want some 30K Eldar ;0;

[@violetsunprops]

I would love to see a 'crusade' era book that gives army lists for the existing Eldar and Ork ranges and then perhaps add a new xenos race with their own new line of miniatures. But it seems the current focus is on the actual Heresy rather than the fighting before it.

[@nekrataali]

My Space Marine army is Black Templar, so I've always been excluded from 30k because there's no Ork army list 😭 I think they could just copy+paste Orks over from 7th. Edition with few problems, since Orks weren't that different back then than they are now (the War of the Beast being an exception). Eldar would have to likely be a new army with a change in the model range, though. During the Heresy, they were still reeling from the Fall. Commorragh wasn't unified under Vect, the Craftworlds were still developing the path system, and Exodites likely weren't as aware of how Slaanesh works as they are now. Probably the most important thing missing are Harlequins, who would just be starting to develop in 30k. I could see something really cool where Eldar are this mishmash of tech. Like they're completely paranoid to use psykers so recently after the Fall, but they also still have a lot of the pre-Fall tech intact. You'd have absolute psychos in their ranks, too, who caused the Fall to happen in the first place, but were in the Webway (i.e. Dark Eldar before Dark Eldar). Just imagine the equivalent of a Craftworld Exarch but because there's no path system, they have the obsession and sadism of the Haemonculi.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Good primer!