Every ‘Into the Light’ Weapon, RANKED | Destiny 2

[@raventhegreat8165]

Now all we need is an anarchy buff and we back to the og loadout

[@coltonbradley9293]

Hopefully we get whisper with precision instrument. If that happens than whisper recluse and mountaintop will be goated.

[@sebastian_blair6685]

Yea I think it's good now not op we alright

[@sebastian_blair6685]

@coltonbradley9293 it already got box breathing which does more and stays for all shots and doesn't ramp up now adding another damage perk would make it broken btw no joke but rather it get something special or new I'm not for sure unless if they take away triple tap and give it 4rth time but who knows

[@atomic_wait]

Anarchy seems to be in a pretty good spot right now

[@Welverin]

It’s been buffed, the damage should close to what it originally was, and the blanket GL/RL reserve applied to it as well. The real question is: is that still good enough with the power creeped world we live in now?

[@yeetus-8383]

This kind of “fuck it” attitude they’ve approached with these weapons makes me hopeful of what the loot will look like in TFS

[@Wildcard120]

I agree they should have dropped the f-it attitude and brought back either the No-Feelings, the Oxygen SR3 or 14:26 the Cryptic Dragon from Destiny 1

[@atomic_wait]

Yeah I'm curious what this means, since this stuff has the potential to overshadow anything that's not a god roll coming up. Hopefully we're getting a lot of interesting new perks.

[@RTGallows]

Release power crept weapons > buff enemies > watch old weapons get dismantled > sunsetting achieved.

[@Yimster06]

Yeah they’ve absolutely done some craftening shit on these weapons

[@Stanley...]

@@Wildcard120they bring the most iconic and fan favorite weapons back Is it so hard to understand ?

[@Ace-ob9yk]

It’s 2024 - 6 Guardians are fighting the Megamind. Warlock is using Sunbracers and a Trace Rifle. Hunters are using Celestial Nighthawk and Midnight Coup. Titans are using Burning Maul as their super. The group is discussing which option to use for DPS - Apex Predator or Edge Transit. What a weird Meta we are…

[@syd6654]

don't forget some people are using bows

[@plaguedoctor5145]

​@@syd6654 to be fair, crafted tyranny of heaven with draginfly and incandescent is shockingly amazing, and I wasnt a bow guy before, I reccomend it if you havent tried it before

[@sharcblazer99]

IVE BEEN USING HEIR APPARENT AND OUT DPSING MY ENTIRE TEAM. MY EARDRUMS DONT WORK

[@dmac2184]

Missed opportunity to reintroduce the Oxygen SR4. It barely got time to shine and meganeura was a really cool concept for a perk.

[@adhirg]

SR3*!

[@jackroberts8468]

Sword logic on Guillotine makes a lot of sense. Nice touch bungie

[@HAGrimm]

I also feel like they could've taken this opportunity to bring back Palindrome in place of Hung Jury

[@decoyhunter8832]

I came back to d2 the week after they rook palindrome out, and I'm still mad about it

[@terrelldurocher3330]

​@@decoyhunter8832fomo

[@geoffreyscrivens3600]

Man been wanting that and shadow price to make a come back with new perks

[@pupperaccino]

They didn't bring back Palindrome for the same reason the didn't bring back Kindled Orchid, too many hand cannon options and they needed to limit themselves. I would have preferred to see either a season of the dawn weapon or another weapon from the black armory.

[@adhirg]

nah, Oxygen SR3 with an updated Meganeura perk would have made the most sense.

[@ThePackman627]

By the way, Chris proctor was on a podcast today and he dropped some new info. Chain reaction is getting buffed on heavy weapons to do 30% more damage. It is getting nerfed on special weapons (15% smaller radius and 20% less damage) and they would like to put it on pellet shotguns.

[@XyzBoBzAU]

Which podcast?

[@TheMrMayo]

Shotguns?! Why and what?? I'mma need a link to the podcast, please, because you have piqued my interest. 🤔

[@redhoodie4111]

I can think of like 9 more iconic scout rifles than Hung Jury

[@fluke7506]

Ringing nail my beloved

[@zachcunningham9054]

@@fluke7506that’s an auto bruh

[@arnavwaghmare3324]

Idk hung jury is the only scout rifle where I consistently get hate mail for using it regardless of it having box breathing or not (I have an EP and box adept)

[@DPantherful1]

You can name scout rifles, but I dunno about iconic. Ask people about Autos, we got a list. Ask people about Pusles, we got a list. Ask people about SMGs, we got a list. Ask people about Hand Cannons, we got 2 lists and some will still get left out lol. Ask people about Scouts. . . Hung Jury is the only one with name recognition. I'll give you Vouchsafe, Doom of Chelchis, and Trustee. But I'm drawing a blank on the other 6.

[@giovanni0654]

​@@DPantherful1 How about Randy's Throwing Knife and Treads Upon Stars?

[@Sir_Powder]

Year 1 of D1; the blue version of the Strangers Rifle was one of the best guns in the game, don't sleep on it.

[@AtlasofSol]

I don't ever remember there being a rare version, yeah there was the legendary one but I don't remember the rare one.

[@nefien7342]

@@AtlasofSol If I remember correctly, with the release of Taken King the blue variant got turned into a purple one. No clue why they did it though.

[@Sir_Powder]

@@nefien7342 going purple allowed to be on parody with other post taken King weapons, and have more perks I believe. Also don't want a blue weapon at the top of weapon usage. I will say near the end it didn't feel as good y1.

[@nefien7342]

@@Sir_Powder So that's the reason. Never knew about it. Thanks for explaining it.

[@icarusrising2787]

Remember they also said that you can get double perks in the third AND fourth columns meaning that you could potentially roll a vorpal/frenzy, chain reaction + surrounded/whirlwind/B&S/Logic, eager edge all enhanceable in tfs... oh sweet Neptune

[@thomash8513]

fortunately, the frame's ass for anything but well lining bequest is still better

[@mrwizemann8983]

Why is hung jury coming back again…

[@Zed-gj8vq]

Yeah that's the only real issue I have with the choices they made. I'm happy they brought it back with Box Breathing at least, but it's just an odd one considering it so recently was obtainable by everyone from the nightfall, whereas at least the raid weapons are gated by needing to do a raid, if you even have the dlc they're from in the first place.

[@danielwilson3225]

Hung jury coming back for the 3rd time but im still waiting on palindrome🥲

[@mrwizemann8983]

@@danielwilson3225 that’s what I’m saying

[@atomic_wait]

Bring Taniks back as a gun.

[@CollaateraL]

It’s free content homie you can’t have everything lmao

[@insane5907]

Imagine midnight coup is the last weapon to release in the timegated schedule I swear sometimes they don’t know how to read a room.

[@marvdatboi]

Gotta put on the time…

[@MetalOWLD2-lt7io]

What timegate shedule?

[@ChickenJoe2.5]

@@MetalOWLD2-lt7iothe first 6 are released april 9, then the other 6 are released one weapon a week for 6 weeks. So at the end the final weapon you will only have 2 weeks to farm

[@dankmemes7796]

@@ChickenJoe2.5that’s bungo for you

[@Michael-ee4uz]

​@@ChickenJoe2.52 weeks to farm to shiny one, not the weapon in general.

[@imstealthed1429]

Time gated releases is a big L on an otherwise great update. Especially when you consider each weapon release will have less time to farm a limited edition roll.

[@davidenriquez4582]

But only for the gun skin shader right?

[@sebastian_blair6685]

​@davidenriquez4582 yes I perfer normal look anyway this is here to stay and not going away

[@MetalOWLD2-lt7io]

What kind of timegate do you mean? "

[@imstealthed1429]

@davidenriquez4582 No, only half of the weapons are available at release. The remaining will be released one per week. While the weapons will be farmable after Final Shape, the ornaments will go away. This also means less time to farm regular weapon rolls before Final Shape, and the limited edition ornament rolls, which appear to all be double perk rolls.

[@zeromech1450]

​@@MetalOWLD2-lt7ioonly 6 weapons will be available when the update releases. The rest will release one gun at a time each week

[@baldeagle5835]

Turns out Hung Jury with KT & EP is pretty darn good in PvE high end content. Yep, pretty darn good.

[@TheElysianPrince]

I missed the Black Armory weapons so much, and while we aren't getting Spiteful Fang, Kindled Orchid (missed opportunity btw, loved having rampage/kill clip on mine), or No Feelings (don't ask, I never got one and I really want it), Blast Furnace alone really sells it for me. That thing was my *best friend* in my early days alongside that bow and hand cannon, all the way up until the Black Armory was sunset. I'd probably do anything to get the rest of the weapons back. I don't care if they're bad, those guns and I have an unbreakable bond! I will *never* dismantle the ones I have!

[@fearme279]

Guns aren't even out, yet fallout is already there with a tierlist of all of them

[@Red6250]

As a pve pulse rifle enjoyer I'm looking to get my hands on an Elsie's rifle with rewind rounds and destabilizing rounds, also if scouts ever get good for once a kinetic tremors firefly role doesn't sound to bad either

[@theveryamericaneagle3657]

It can also get replusor though for over shields.

[@Red6250]

@@theveryamericaneagle3657 true

[@TheMrMayo]

I'm happy I'm not the only one looking forward to Elsie's Rifle. Between wanting to try more pulses in PvP and loving them in PvE (no matter what my fireteam says), I wouldn't mind ballin' with the OG legendary NTTE. Plus, this is the only pulse in the game with Repulsor Brase/Destabilizing Rounds, so of course I'm making a run for it on day 1 with Edge Transit.

[@Rando161]

Ngl i had a mimi heart attack of excitement when i saw hammer head in the trailer black armory forever!

[@JeffKryger]

Props for being able to say Rewind Rounds clearly!

[@ChrisAndretsos]

Hung JURY should've been in F for "Fine, we get it already!"

[@StangMan06]

Can't wait to see your next few videos when you get these weapons and have tested them. Always loved your recommendations on rolls. ❤

[@fringehouse]

Hammerhead not being S tier is wild, the perk combos on it are busted and make it the best MG by far

[@Gunther69420]

Doesn't really matter when nearly no one uses MGs.

[@ForeverLaxx]

Being "the best" of a sad archetype doesn't mean much. LMGs have no real reason to exist since Bungie wants to focus them on add-clear and doesn't let them be good at boss DPS for very long when it does happen.

[@Bruce918]

You don’t need double damage perks on an lmg, I’d rather run commemoration with reconstruction

[@AVillainChillin]

For real.

[@juliankennedy5924]

I got a hung jury with cascade point+ kinetic tremors and I’m hanging onto it for anti champ scout. It’s Kinda fun.

[@xAJAxY]

Didn’t we have Elise Rifle in Curse of Osiris called Machina DEI 4

[@Ahnock]

strangers rifle is also interesting because it can roll repulsor brace destabilizing rounds, which i dont think we have on a longer range primary, only specials and smgs up to this point. so something to keep in mind for things like gms where you need longer range guns.

[@Whompens]

desperately wish they had added Oxygen SR3 instead of Hung Jury, mega firefly would’ve been so fun reworked

[@bekfistwolf8248]

Luna's howl, recluse, and mountaintop are the first three I'm hard farming, after that I'll try to pickup a good hammerhead and edge transit but those three weapons are gonna be glorious

[@ChickenJoe2.5]

Have a badddddddd feeling lunas gonna be one of the last to drop

[@TheGWALReview]

I also wasn't too excited for Hung Jury but...that kinetic tremors and precision instrument combo could be fire in pve. 6 shots to trigger tremors and 6 precision shots in a row for 20% damage bonus that applies to the tremors.

[@calvin711]

Imo blast furnace should be A tier minimum because it’s gonna be REALLY good in PvE. It and new hung jury are the first weapons that can roll a kinetic tremors in the 3rd column, I’m going for this with one for all for, and hung jury with precision instruments. As someone who wasn’t interested in kinetic tremors on anything before, now that it’s in the 3rd column I’m very excited for it.

[@jasonhood8592]

Honestly, I understand y'all complaints about Hung Jury, but I would recommend trying out rewind + explosive payload, could lead to infinite ammo, and if there's a anti champ mod for scouts, such as overload or unstop, you could theoretically stun them over and over again... Though I also want to try out kinetic tremors + explosive payload on both Hung Jury and Midnight Coup... Midnight for me is just a kinetic SunShot whilst Hung is probably going to ball gm content, if it gets a champ mod in TFS...

[@Spekter-76646]

Back in the day I used to play Gambit a LOT. I was the designated invader. I had a max range Blast Furnace that had headseeker, and I could 2 burst people from a different time zone. I am going to be going for one again, I miss that thing.

[@joshuabalzarni7747]

Brother mountain with impulse + frenzy is gonna be wild. Nearly instant reload, fuck ton of handling and turbo fast missiles.

[@Herobuilder21]

After using the competetive pulse rifle, i think four-bursts have their place if their stability is focused on. Landing all four shots can be messy but since they make all the comp weapons stat monsters its like a laser that kills in like two shots.

[@camm4460]

I could taste the salt when you mentioned conditional finality 😂. Great video!

[@deckerjake438]

Thank you for not simply reading it.

[@BLK_pharaoh]

Magnificent Howl was sunset when Lucky Pants got its rework. With the new version of the perk, I’m interested in what it could do in PvE

[@CrustyTheMoist]

Man this is going to get me to play destiny. I want every gun except for Hung Jury and Elsies rifle. So much farming in my future, man

[@Zer0megaXX]

I have some Hung Jury's already but im intrested in the kinetic tremors explosive payload roll as its the first time its obtainable like that. Recluse for me is a must off of pure feel, have yet to find a void smg that feels like recluse in PvE, that and Hammerhead.

[@johnalbone30192]

Keep in mind when they nerf Well of radiance and survivability in general surrounded will likely be a less popular option.

[@ASF77]

Look, I understand that hung jury may be here for the billionth time, but explosive and kinetic tremors on a scout means you can fight from litterally anywhere and still do well (I've been enjoying imperative with triple tap and kinetic for this reason). I think getting a scout with this perk combo will do great in high end content where you can sit back, and midnight coup with the same perks for when youre a little closer, as 140 HC's hit harder.

[@ChaosTheoryArchitecture]

No fusion rifles, honestly bummed. We get duplicates of others but not covering all types

[@Cakebeater17]

I agree with this tier list 100% most excited for Elsie’s rifle for sure. When NTTE came out in D1, I always thought strangers rifle was better (and it was just a rare gun) lol

[@xavierforget]

Forbearance: Demo, Wellspring or Chainreaction with the origin trait could be good for ability regen. Succession: Discord, Recombination would be good for a Stacking buff to burst majors without spending ammo. Fallen Guillotine: Vorpal, Frenzy with Surrounded, Bait and Switch. Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload, Shoot to Loot with Kinetic Tremors, One for All. Explosive could good for both Kinetic Tremors might proc with less shots, Shoot to Loot Kinetic is a classic, Explosive and One for All is just damage. Recluse: Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds. Subsistence and Master of Arm. Mountain Top: Auto-Loading and Frenzy or Recombination. Edge Transit: Cascade Point and Bait and Switch. Though Chain Reaction and Deconstruct could be interesting for add clear, could possibly make an infinite ammo heavy. Hammer-Head: Rampage and Killing-Tally or Onslaught. Destabilizing Rounds could be interesting instead of Rampage. Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors and One for All. Luna's Howl: Heal Clip or Subsistence and Incandescent or Heal Clip Magnificent Howl. Hung Jury: Kinetic Tremors, Explosive Rounds or One for All. Same reasons as Midnight Coup. Elsie's Pulse: Repulsor Brace and Desperate Measures or Destabilizing Rounds. Alot of interesting rolls on these weapons. Trying to get unique rolls on the returning raid weapons.

[@julius7539]

Whirlwind blade better than bait and switch unless the DPS phase is short enough that you don't need to reproc multiple times

[@fluke7506]

​@julius7539 yeah bait and switch on swords kinda sucks.

[@Vengeful_Fir]

Glad someone else saw the heal clip on Luna's and repulsor and destabilizing on Elsie's

[@StrengthOfSamson45]

The troll on Elsie's is funny. Literally every perk that any pulse can roll with.

[@Arindam1262]

As a pve player, I'm very interested in kinetic tremors and one for all on blast furnace, but ultimately I'm just overjoyed that Hammerhead is back lol

[@iamundeadban609]

I would say recluse is gonna be high a low s tier since you can get a 30% dmg bonus (10%dmg bonus from weapon kills and 20% from melee/grenade kills THAT STACKS) from desperate measures so i see substance+ desperate measures being a goto roll

[@EdibleClown]

I'm here to argue, and I haven't even gotten 30 seconds into the video yet!

[@AVillainChillin]

Yeah, this is why I recommend everyone trying what they can. Form their own opinions. Some choices here left me scratching my head lol. Oh well, we all have opinions. Unfortunately 😂

[@AVillainChillin]

Yeah, this is why I recommend everyone trying what they can. Form their own opinions. Some choices here left me scratching my head lol. Oh well, we all have opinions. Unfortunately 😂

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

Master Of Arms would also feedback into Mountaintop with that Recombination roll. Mountaintop and Recluse look to be the same godly duo they were before

[@CloverWolf26]

I'm most excited about Luna's Howl (wish it was Not Forgotten but I'm still glad Luna's is back) I got Luna's Howl the season the infamous nerf to both weapons happened so I was never able to experience Mag Howl at its full power, and while it will never be the same, I do like that it's like the hawk-awesome which is my favorite exotic handcannon, so a legendary energy counterpart is really enticing me. Everything else is kinda on the back burner for me except maybe mountaintop for pvp. I wanna see what I can do with that extra momentum it seems to give. I'm still gonna grind out almost everything I can but Luna's and maybe Mountaintop are my top picks

[@sunionbro1418]

I'm just pumped for elsie and hammerhead. Still got a god-roll hammer from my black armory days

[@inquisitorichijou883]

My only raid run, my only clear of DSC, gave me a Moving Target and Snapshot Succession.

[@stepbrother15]

Just going thru your video about rolls and at the guillotine part I have Vorpal/Whirlwind, Surrounded/Frenzy, Bait and Switch/Vorpal, Bait and Switch/ Relentless. Which are not the special versions but still work all the same lol

[@ilredelnulla9837]

putting succession on the c tier is the biggest non end game player take, is an a tier one of the best snipers

[@Thotacus]

not for this it isn't

[@ilredelnulla9837]

@@Thotacus is one of the best dps snipers lmfao

[@Thotacus]

@@ilredelnulla9837 No it really isn't. Snipers aren't even good for dps in the first place. If you were to use one for whatever reason supremacy and volta bracket are both better. The succession from into the light isnt even meaningfully different from the one in the raid. So if you are already an end game player than this one is of little importance.

[@ilredelnulla9837]

@@Thotacus the best snipers for dps are supremacy and succession, volta maybe 3rd but not better than succession since it does a lot less damage per shot, obv atm the only sniper you use in pve for dps rotations is izanagi for avg players don't know what a dps rotation is

[@Thotacus]

@@ilredelnulla9837 Again no. Volta is also better than succession for dps and total damage. No debate to be had just a fact of the game. So there's that.

[@kebabdevourer8162]

My first edge transit is envious assassin and bait and switch. Too bad I don't have spike grandes but after the nerf I'm happy with mag upgrades.

[@chewy232]

I'm just here cause I heard there was an argument. Let it fly boys!

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

So glad I went for Eager + Cold for a skating utility sword. Falling Guillotine 2.0 is much better as a DPS Vortex frame, if every Vortex frames become relevant again. Seriously, 6 ammo for that charged heavy? Why. Also I love how Apex Predator and Edge Transit are going to be go-to DPS options for TFS. If someone told me that when these weapons first came out I would have called them crazy.

[@Raagentreg]

Honestly, I think you may be underrating Succession in PvE a bit with how hard Recombination can slap a champion in that type of content. You Sunshot / Trinity / Graviton around, stun a champ, then lay into it with a max Recombination round and a rocket, champ’s probably nuked at that point. Also (for the same reason I want Recombination Mountaintop) it’s a great lead into damage phases involving Bait and Switch weapons, just at longer ranges than Mountaintop (not sure which slaps harder of the two prior to damage testing)

[@Tigerwarrior200]

Recomb mountain top… mountain top in general is going to be cracked and I’m here for it. That was the pinnacle weapon I rocked for the forsaken era. Leaving it on A teir was a mistake especially when bequest will still be better than falling guillotine.

[@JJARCHIE]

​@@Tigerwarrior200 bequest pulls 1.55 on surrounded , b&s frenzy vortex is around 1.45 , i see it as a nice upgrade over normal vortex 1.3 ( both b&s and whiralwind is close )

[@Mr_Ar3s]

Appreciate your personal thoughts on the rolls, excited to get to farming for the new goodness. I see some DPS testing in my future

[@RuiNDieM1988]

As someone whos hasn't been able to do raids since eater of worlds i am excited for succession and forbearance but also I miss midnight coup so much. And then Luna's Howl is also top of my list Also time gated realease is whatever. Gives us time to farm with a smaller loot pool

[@imeggman]

Blast Furnace is my all time favorite PvP weapon, and one of my favorite weapons ever. I grinded HARD for my Feeding Frenzy/Kill Clip god roll, and only Bungie deletting Destiny 2 completely will get rid of that thing from my vault. I have let my hopes get high that the reissue will be as good, despite your B rating (lol). There are going to be so many good roll combos to try out.

[@superkamiguru3449]

Blast with rampage/zen when One Eyed Mask first came out was my PvP peak lol. Was literally unstoppable at times

[@pyroelionai9537]

Whole heartedly expected you to get to hung jury and go "yep, it's back, again. D tier, moving on" lol

[@nicepair8956]

I absolutely loved blast furnace back in forsaken super surprised they brought it back

[@jsmaster4779]

Fuck, made a very good point with Elsie’s Rifle being pared with Conditional for PVP.

[@amethystlegion]

I never thought I would say this. I swear this is the last thing I would have expected to ever say: After trying various top tier perk combos, both Recluse and Mountaintop could use a buff in PvP. Especially Mountaintop.

[@Ethanshmeethan00]

Did some dmg testing eith edge transit over on d2foundry using custom pve encounter settings. If day 1 is a -20 cap per encounter as it was last year, ET with cascade and envious + BaS with 7 mag option (brings it to 21 with envious), you should be able to dish out 1.3 million dmg in less than 7 seconds in a day 1 raid

[@stephbenson7340]

I'd say Briarbinds Warlocks should still keep the Title around, if only because its origin trait, Classy Contender, helps improve Void Soul uptime.

[@darkdraco02]

Can we use deepsight things on these weapons ? I really dont wanna do the raids again but want the guns unlocked

[@teslacoil4409]

Demo chain on forb makes wave frames complete Even with double damage perks guillotine being a vortex means it will unfortunately still be outdamaged by bequest so only decent roll is eager vorpal as a direct replacement for other half Mtop movement is good already so this buff will be wild when paired with heat rises, auto loading and either vorpal frenzy or recomb Edge transit new damage meta

[@Trabreno30]

12:18 Bungie probably only put Hung Jury in as a way for players who don’t regularly do nightfalls to get one. However, Hung Jury has already been reissued 3-4 times now and I already have a god roll that is better than anything the brave version has to offer because mine is adept. Honestly, Bungie should have picked a different scout rifle. My top three choices would have been No Feelings, Patron of Lost Causes, or Oxygen SR3.

[@jordanreavis8163]

I don't know what they could have done to meganeura though since it's strictly tied to dragonfly

[@Trabreno30]

@@jordanreavis8163 It wasn’t really that much of an impressive perk so I think it would be fine if they removed it and just gave the Oxygen random rolls.

[@LilPapi_7]

bungie had the perfect opportunity to bring back old palindrome

[@Senshi-un2bu]

the only weapon i’m not excited for is Hung Jury Blast Furnace was the gun that gave me the love for 4 bursts, but none have truly felt like the OG.

[@MidKnight2142]

If I get a god roll edge transit with the new shiny skin, its just going straight to my vault where I'll promptly forget about it. I've always hated Heavy GLs in D2, minus one or 2, so I dont see any reason to change my mind. With the whole, "well I guess we have to put a scout rifle in here somewhere" joke, I'm still bummed they have 3 different GL (dont get me wrong i want deliverance and mountain top) but I was really hoping for Breachlighy or at least another 2 burst side arm.

[@xzwingnutzx2221]

I cant wait to get lunas howl. Jurassic green with hc+incandescent is one of my most used weapons, so having then enhanced on a handcannon is gonna be incredible

[@potato1341]

I do kind of wish we got to see mountaintop also roll with redirection but maybe that'd be too much. Ability to load up to 4 2x damage shots at once? I guess it'd be way less ammo efficient to use all those shots on red bars than recombination but I still think it would've been cool to see!

[@dustyfedora]

My favorite thing about these weapons is that it seems like all of these guns have good perk pops that there’s no one set perfect god roll for PvE on quite a few of them. For me I want Repulsor Brace + Master of Arms Recluse and that should work really well on my hunter

[@mjt5400]

I got a Elsie's Rifle with repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds.

[@AtlasofSol]

Honestly, Feeding Frenzy/Desperado on Elsie's Rifle seems like it could be nuts.

[@hoping_on_hope]

Midnight Coup and Hung Jury being able to roll Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors means that KT will proc in 3 shots on both weapons. They will both be S-Tier PvE weapons.

[@Seven-Lights]

I haven’t heard anyone else mention it, but I want a recluse with frenzy and repulsor brace, as a voidlock main at heart, having frenzy which makes every weapon feel amazing, as well as repulsor at the same time, sign me up immediately

[@billedten2297]

Mountaintop is S tier. The rocket jumping will make it so you can skip certain jumping puzzles, the damage is amazing, so it will probably get put with swap rotations, the blast damage feels like it’s not as good, but is definitely S tier. Really wish FG would have eager in 3 so I could have surrounded and eager

[@WebofHope]

I'm really mad about this year's GG rolls, got the two Hullabaloo rolls I wanted in about 2 days and spent the rest of the event only rolling more hullabaloos and only two Titles that were trash. So the option of actually GETTING a recluse is something I'm looking forward to

[@7Sevign7]

I’m gonna go for recluse so hard because of the origin perk basically gives it demo(depending on percentages of the ability energy it gives) with void builds with the extra perks it can roll amazing gun

[@adhirg]

what perks do you want on it? I’m thinking Repulsor Brace / Destabilizing Rounds, but I don’t know for sure yet.

[@pupperaccino]

I heard it's around 5.5%

[@7Sevign7]

@@adhirg ya that’s the roll I’m looking at and one with repulsor plus a dmg perk

[@markace_]

Demo is 5% and the new origin trait gives 2.5% - Chris said that on a recent podcast

[@shadowsa2b]

Overflow + Recom/ Harmony on Mt Top sounds pretty nutty. If only it had Envious Assassin in C3. But ALH is nothing to scoff at either

[@dezzdinn]

There was a rapid fire pulse from Iron banner that rolled Head seeker and kill clip. That was back when head was trash. It’s sunset now but i still have one in my vault

[@crayon-munchr1795]

Good old claws of the wolf still waiting for it to come back 😔

[@TheArrivalCyberse]

tbh you should be ranking these based on their power within their respective roles/archetype. As a dps sniper Succession is one of the best out there and if the meta ever shifts towards a sniper meta it will be good to have in your inventory.

[@vruxdrossgaming]

We should've gotten Martyr's Retribution honestly than Dollar Store Forebearance aka Threebearance, even if the perks become enhaceable when FS drops it doesn't have VoW's origin trait which just makes this new version weaker than the other sure you could run healing nades on a character, but that's a few seconds you aren't mopping out ads while with the raid version you can continue to clear ads as you continously get healed.

[@OldInsomniac]

Really interesting PvE options on Blast Furnace, too.

[@robertjoseph6765]

Zen Moment + Headseeker on Elsie's Rifle could be a problem in PVP, gonna farm for that

[@Bamaunt]

I’m so happy blast furnace is coming back. Funny enough I was watching some of your videos and you kept bringing it up and I got said that my dumb ass dismantled mine. Sure it was a godroll but it was still dumb move on my part. Now I just need the ability to get the starless night ship and I’ll be golden

[@TheElysianPrince]

Starless Night ship? What?

[@Bamaunt]

@@TheElysianPrince yeah if you got a specific black armory triumph you would get a ship called the starless night

[@Bamaunt]

@@TheElysianPrince if you ask me it is the most beautiful ship in the game. If you want to look at it in the collection it’s season nine the only exotic ship there is

[@OldManLucid]

I get Hung Jury's legacy, but it was already here. Should have been Oxygen SR3, if I was choosing. What I do want is blast furnace and hammerhead. Luna's, Elsie's, Recluse and the MT in close second.

[@bbagginsmcswaggins]

Midnight Coup. Firefly/One for All (roughly equal damage to Rampage, doesn't need kills, longer duration). Absolutely my most hyped weapon in ITL, I need it so badly. Going to replace my fatebringer, esp since it's got an origin trait that reportedly gives ~5% grenade/melee energy. Also auto loading + recombination mountaintop looks like the fucking SEX for GMs where I don't need a champ stunning weapon in kinetic slot. Overall I think it can be safely said that ITL is far, far more than anyone was expecting from supposedly a 'light-level & story catch-up' update. Looks absolutely fantastic, multiple meta shakeup weapons, new ritual activity people have asked for for YEARS. At this point, people that are actively complaining more than praising this event are explicitly destructive & malicious towards Bungie, I'm convinced.

[@elegy8187]

Would have been cool to see a classic scout like Chaos Dogma come back instead of Hung Jury

[@22Alex5]

I’d have Succession in D tier, if you have the craftable one from the raid then there’s no reason to go for it. Forbearance at least has Demo as a new perk. I’d also move Hung Jury up to B at least for PVE, it’s possible that Explosive Payload may half the amount of shots you need to trigger Kinetic Tremors.

[@arthanor9631]

Void will be gearing up! Been a while there was so many good void weapons on offer!

[@raigrex8362]

Having heal clip and incan on a handcannon brings a smile to my face

[@nathanflinchum1153]

It exists on igneous but trials is abysmal to farm

[@kirnoltek]

I definitely want Mountaintop, I just have no idea what roll (PvE). For Luna's Howl, I want Heal Clip/Incandescent for my PvE fun. I absolutely want most of these though - just not Hung Jury.

[@pupperaccino]

Mountaintop roll I'm eyeing is Auto + recombination, super long range heritage

[@beepboop2803]

Idk why I haven’t seen people freaking out over subsistence and magnificent howl. If I’m thinking right, then you might be able to have endless magnificent howl bullets in at level content like raids and dungeons. Bummer about hung jury coming back for the 1000th time, but enhanced box breathing on it might be insane once the final shape drops

[@lokilucario]

Literally the only ones I care about are Luna's howl amd Recluse

[@stephenvance4867]

I am stoked about Forbearance. Never got to run Vow because no one seems to want to run it

[@SavvyMon4]

Cause it’s not a fun raid to teach even though it’s a fun raid to run

[@jackal8176]

Im honestly hyped for the blast furnace as its the only pulse i actually like. Im a little confused why they brought back the hung jury when they could have brought back song of justice VI who's model they have never reused for some reason. Would be cool considering it looks like a M14 its also the only non bullpup scout to my knowledge. Otherwise im hyped to actually get to use the mountain top and lunas howl considering I never got the chance before.