Every Journey Powered By the Sun: Aptera Factory Tour

[@RonaldClarkson-d7d]

I'm glad Chris and Steve are sticking to their guns and not giving in to a partner or buyer who will compromise the original mission. The environment needs people to adopt this way of thinking about transportation on a global scale.

[@MaximGhost]

In other words, you are set to make millions in this PONZI SCHEME

[@Nerd_Bird]

Absolutely drooling over this detail, thank you for the video!

[@MunroLive]

Glad you liked it!

[@Steven-h7h]

Agreed! So refreshing to see a deep dive into the bits and pieces. Construction details are so much more informative and satisfying than highly produced videos and animations.

[@Nerd_Bird]

@Steven-h7h so true

[@geoff5711]

glad your on our side sandy appreciate all your hard work from your team.aptera team too get the job done people lets do this!!

[@geekinstein]

Ever since the gasoline model, ive thought this was the perfect delivery vehicle for auto parts, post office, hot meals. Hated to see awd and hub motors bite the dust since I am an owner/landlord and have to go in muddy yards and in Tennessee snows. 2000 Silverado has 330k miles...hanging in there till Aptera gets 1989 out.

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Awesome detailed look at PI2

[@geoff5711]

great to see Sandy on our side. late 2025 or 6 may well be closer to my production line thinking mentioned here too

[@witext]

The fact that they seem to take munros words to heart & are working with him gives me a lot of confidence I am so excited for the aptera concept, I hope so badly that it goes well, altho I’d be lying if I said i wasn’t a bit worried But they seem to spending their money wisely & if Munro believes then I believe as well, I wish them all the best of luck

[@TogetherinParis]

Having those steely hawk eyes admiring and smiling, shocked at the lightness, it's really reassuring. Thanks Sandy Munro!

[@thomas6502]

We're obsessed with this vehicle (frankly to the exclusion of all others at the moment) and excited to see this get to production. The value proposition here is simply not met by other "cars". Can't wait to be driving ours!

[@marcmayou1422]

That was very good video. Thank you Sandy, Thank you Chris And Thank you Steve... Go Aptera !

[@TheScottShepard]

This level of transparency is incredible! What an amazing project.

[@stevec5000]

This scam has been going on for many years!

[@TheScottShepard]

@ you misspelled “delightful innovation”.

[@LJ-jq8og]

🤣 Were you foolish enough to buy stock in this nightmare ⁉ Or, do you just work there ⁉

[@TheScottShepard]

@@LJ-jq8og chat rooms are not a good place to seek help for emotional trauma. You should find a doctor or a therapist. I’m sorry I cannot help. I wish you the best. You deserve to be happy.

[@hammerdon1962]

I've been following this project for a lot of years. They are Outsourcing way too much. Zero control over the supply chain.

[@jpslaym0936]

I’m glad that Steve, Chris and Aptera team are ensuring that this car’s design and execution of manufacturing processes meet their original vision and promise of this breakthrough engineering design

[@randyland1000]

I know this is taking an eternity, but Im stiil all in. Go Aptera!😊

[@energieundhobby]

I really hope Aptera becomes a reality-we urgently need more efficient vehicles worldwide; things just can’t keep going as they are. This car has real potential for the future; it just needs to be produced in large quantities and at an affordable price. I’m from Germany, but I’d be REALLY interested in something like this! =)

[@stevenemert837]

@energieundhobby Amen! I'm continually flabbergasted seeing large, heavy, expensive non-aero EVs.

[@whatamistilldoinghere]

Will take decades before it goes worldwide. I mean, not even tesla has reached other markets

[@trooperdave3757]

When people realize this "poor man's lambo" needs virtually no service and practically no fuel either the waiting list will be insane. No one has ever even imagined a car that has no maintenance or fuel needs. Game changer!

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

Sheesh, you've drunk all the Koolaide.😂

[@jonathonalsop2120]

I like the optimism! I think with the current culture of big SUVs and pickups, plus the Aptera only seating 2 but being as wide as a pickup it’s an uphill battle for mass appeal. BUT, for all the EV critics who point to, charging infrastructure, battery mining, range anxiety, the grid can’t handle EVs, they’re too heavy. Aptera goes hard against all of that.

[@stevenemert837]

@@jonathonalsop2120 I'd agree about the concern regarding the appeal of a two-seater if it didn't have that rear storage space. In my crossover SUV I rarely have more than two people, and most stuff I carry is rather flat. It will work for me if they finally get to volume production. I would expect my use case is a pretty common one.

[@gmv0553]

Great video by Munro and Associates! The content in this video is very promising for Aptera and their supporters! And I am proud to be one of them!

[@foremasp]

Thank you Sandy, Chris and Steve. Wow, the carbon body and doors, those forging, extruded rails, the spindles and glass, very impressive. Thank you for showing us this; yes it seems like there is quite a bit more time to wait for my launch edition Aptera but that’s okay. If you open another round of funding and make the minimum $5k or $10k, I’d like that.

[@DemaGeek]

Thank you Sandy, Steve and Chris for this in-depth tour video and information!! It's so good to get more Aptera behind the scenes detail and see the Production Intent builds coming together. We all hope this progress spurs new funding possibilities for you very soon!!!!

[@JayGrant-hi5ms]

It’s too bad that Sandy missed PI.2 rolling around by mere *days*! It’s great to finally see more of the detail that we don’t get from social media updates. Go Aptera!

[@shrimptopian3392]

Doesn't matter, Sandy can come back in 12 months and nothing much will have changed (unless they no longer exist)

[@rchender]

@@shrimptopian3392 You still haven't learned a thing about how wrong you are with that crustacean-sized brain of yours now have you shrimpy. There's enormous progress on the large time scale (2019-2024) and amazing progress in just a few months. Very efficient utilization of capital and lean mfg. is paying off bigtime!

[@DemaGeek]

@@shrimptopian3392 Again, stated as fact, but only your opinion. You don't acknowledge progress as a rule, so it's an easy negative to fall back on. You don't offer ideas or suggestions either, just criticism. Further proof that you're only here for the argument, these are your true colors showing.

[@shrimptopian3392]

True, you got me

[@feedvid]

Excellent. I wish Aptera big success. 👍

[@bobbygaglione7553]

Thank you guys for the lengthy update

[@supercadet111]

6000 units for cash flow neutral is insane!! I support Aptera, but I've always been worried about them being able to survive, being a niche product that's going to have an unorthodox demand curve, however at 6000 units, they're surely save. Once celebrities start picking these up like Cyber trucks, their demand vs production capacity will be exceeded quite quickly.

[@termiterasin]

The results will speak for themselves. Maybe a cargo vehicle for light cargo only. Efficiency is money saved.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Celebrities won’t touch this thing.

[@bluetoad2668]

I don't believe they'll be anywhere near neutral at 6000 units. The business model for this is not viable without a lot of money to keep them afloat for the first 5 years.

[@mpetty9947]

I think it will be a smashing success. Aptera has so much that no one else offers. That creates a desire to have zone, that all types of people will want.

[@Randy-J]

I'm usually not overly excited or impressed with a lot of the Aptera videos. This one was great. I was starting to worry about my investment. This allays many fears. GREAT update. Thankyou.

[@5Lax]

The design and manufacturing shown in this video is incredible, but this company still feels like a big R&D project.

[@shrimptopian3392]

At least 1,5 year away from production, IF they get the 60 million, and more after that

[@rchender]

@@shrimptopian3392 Well thanks for that keen observation Captain Obvious!

[@shrimptopian3392]

i will give a even more important observation : If Aptera really cares about their customers they should sell the company for 1 dollar to a company that can do it

[@GNiessen]

It looks better every time. I do want to go see the Pi4, once it is rolling.

[@mpetty9947]

Mee too.

[@simonthebroken9691]

Thank you gentlemen.

[@feandil666]

It feels they applied all the principles of lean design :) it looks good

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🙋‍♂️THANKS SANDY AND MUNRO 🤗 FOR THE TOUR AND INFO ℹ️😎🔋🔋🔋

[@jasongiordano5189]

Really pulling for these guys! Go Aptera! Refunding my Cybertruck reservation to reserve an Aptera.

[@keith8443]

You're kidding

[@debrariat6884]

Terrific video! The Aptera is AMAZING! and BEAUTIFUL! Thank you from number 568

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for watching!

[@andreasblomst5744]

Just a note, from those of us that drive a lot (50k a year). NVH minimization is very important. The problem with some of the most efficient vehicles out there is driving them over 70mph for 90 minutes or more is exhausting. I can’t wait to try the Aptera!

[@Carl_in_AZ]

Seeing production intent Aptera at January's Scottsdale Barret Jackson with 500k+ attendees would be nice.

[@leonardoarandadeleon8563]

Excellent video!!! Opening of I+D development , Warm greetings from Uruguay!!!

[@kevin3434343434]

This is a VERY interesting company and car!

[@sxsignal]

I'm really looking forward to when they have the production line going through its paces

[@jamesengland7461]

It's remarkable to me how many come to this channel, or the subject of Aptera, to naysay an advanced new concept in transport efficiency. Habitually.

[@fredbloggs5902]

That’s because the concept isn’t ‘advanced’ and is fundamentally flawed.

[@musk-eteer9898]

this vid from Sandy leaning me to placing an order for one

[@SteveBueche1027]

Urgently behind 50K others.

[@tims8603]

Finally, an in depth look at the components and construction. The short videos are nice but they leave a lot of questions unanswered.

[@VARider1]

I love playing the Sandy Munro drinking game, "At the end of the Day" I'm feeling pretty good 😊.

[@Radium3D]

Love the roll cage and carbon fiber shell, it looks like this thing is going to be super safe despite not being required to meet the standards for cars since it is a 3 wheel motorcycle class.

[@foremasp]

My thoughts as well, strong and has side impact crush space, airbags, pretensioners, safety appears to be a major priority engineered into the design.

[@ronfarnsworth7074]

I think an Aptera will glance off at a lot of impact angles vs metal body cars that deform into and grab each other and increase impact force. And the outboard wheels may add to crash protection at various angles as well. We'll see come crash test time.

[@geoff5711]

@@ronfarnsworth7074 any blow to the side will be a glancing blow a lot of strength there. old aptera design far weaker in 2004? look up those tests involving a forklift...

[@ronfarnsworth7074]

@@geoff5711 Exactly, Aptera should do well at the common 10 and 2 (o'clock) crash angles.

[@JakemanTube]

The car grandpa with no filter likes it! What a great endorsement! Thank you!

[@SmartMart1658]

Great work Aptera! Would love one of these here in the sunny UK.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

Sarcasm? "sunny UK"

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

You'd be lucky if there is one there in the early 30ies.

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@SmartMart1658 Now run the numbers for solar radiation in the U.K.

[@judycampbell4582]

Most definitely a look of the future……….well done !

[@ronfarnsworth7074]

Best part is the look is derived from function. A double win!

[@nutzeeer]

thank you sandy for your valuable recommendation for production of the metal parts.

[@briancollier5145]

Great video on a great product. Here is hoping they can actually get them on the street in volume!

[@suchdevelopments]

😁Sandy, Steve, and Chris, Good day from Goonellabah, NSW, Australia. The Aptera is fabulous. I can't wait to see the finished product. 🤗Cheers, Ian Cleland

[@tonysales3687]

Good to hear some production for next year. Love the design.

[@fredbloggs5902]

I don’t believe they’ll produce anything.

[@santanumaitra3962]

Great video - timely and stress-lowering! Happy to see Jason Hill.

[@Yt4fun5]

Great video. Vegas would love those especially airport to casinos and more! 😎👍

[@modernindustrialhobbit]

Eric Koston in the back pushing mongo for a sweet switch flip on that immaculate ground. Would love to skate in there. Also, can’t wait for my Aptera!!😃

[@suggesttwo]

10:35 side view mirrors were a great invention in 1921. Cameras rule.

[@harriettanthony7352]

This writers EV rear camera is USELESS in the rain, or covered in mud or ice. NO rain-x does not solve the issue. Since the Aptera is blind sans cameras--how will this view of the world work in real life? Tesla drivers, please chime in.

[@jasonhochstrasser8657]

Great video. I loved looking at the parts. Also that Sandy is still giving them advice, like don't sand cast the chassis. To me, that seemed like the only major production related problem to overcome (aside from money).

[@geoff5711]

agreed that ali chassis looked like sono motors chassis.was shocked when i saw how inefficient sono was.i hope these guys make to production promises in combat tho.just ask fiskar.

[@tims8603]

At one point awhile back, they mentioned low pressure die casting. Evidently, it's kinda like the presses that make the body panels only with molten metal.

[@ko4kyleo]

Really needs an angel investor to make the 60M happen!

[@rebeccadubois8270]

26k in line for mine. Cant wait but i have to!

[@recumbentrocks2929]

Such a cool looking machine. I do hope some company sees this video and invests some serious cash into Aptera Motors. They have worked so hard for a long time on this amazing car and it would be such a shame to see it not go into production.

[@shrimptopian3392]

All the investors saw it already, they have been approaching investors for 3 years now and they got about 0 dollars If they don't get the 60 million from USCG soon it will be over and out

[@cjonesplay1]

Hopefully they can bring it to the market one day.

[@DevyzerRevyzed]

The aluminum parts were beautiful. This will be such a success and i think most don't even know its coming. Probably can't talk about FSD lol The roads of the near future will be Tesla, Aptera and classic restomods in a sci-fi landscape. Beautiful.

[@geoff5711]

ali parts machined and expensive they gotta start somewhere tho.aptera needs a runway like a tenth of tesla,lucid or rivian thats all

[@ronaldclarkson1146]

The skateboarding tech wiz at 2:35 was a nice touch.

[@lawrencekendrick6440]

Was that tony hawk?

[@peterjol]

I think it's the most exciting and desirable car being developed....I want one!!!!!!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗GREAT TO SEE 👀

[@fassphoto]

I really have high hopes on Aptera. Please keep the good work guys ❤❤❤

[@dewiz9596]

Keep the dream alive. A lot of people thought the Wright Brothers were Wrong

[@shrimptopian3392]

If only the founders of Aptera had the qualities of the Wright brothers, they don't

[@ubaldinovega5775]

@@shrimptopian3392 shrimp and shrink, they sound a lot alike, but i think your brain is shrinking

[@shrimptopian3392]

My shrimpy shrinky brain has got 2x the power of Chris and Steve combined 😂 Although their 2nd hand car salesman skills are way higher than mine

[@harriettanthony7352]

@@shrimptopian3392 Hmm! it seems we have the deranged Aussie Aptera hater here-hiding under new name-again. This writer recognizes the writing style

[@harriettanthony7352]

@@shrimptopian3392 Hmm! it seems we have the deranged Aussie Aptera hater here-hiding under new name-again. This writer recognizes the writing style

[@htimmermans1938]

This is my dream car!

[@truman4956]

You mean your dream auto cycle. This is not a car and doesn’t have to meet automotive crash requirements.

[@htimmermans1938]

​@@truman4956 I don't care too much about it.

[@Randy-J]

@truman4956 Uhmm, who cares?? Cheaper insurance!

[@tims8603]

@@truman4956 Still much safer than a motorcycle and has all the features of a car like steering wheel, HVAC, roll cage, airbags, seat belts, etc.

[@mpetty9947]

@@truman4956 All that matters is "you don't think about it as an autocycle". While driving it around it's just a car to get you to where you need to go.

[@stephensullivan1011]

1:48 "Where are the Indians?🧐" 😂 this is why we love you Sandy 💙

[@sjvtesla]

I hope everyone is paying attention

[@adimchionyenadum2962]

Really hope so too, but I doubt.

[@geoff5711]

...they should be...

[@cingkole7893]

27:40 IMO talk to TBM brakes, they make the lightest brake rotors

[@genieb]

I think it was inevitable that a solar charged BEV that hardly / never needs charging was making it. I would have loved for Lightyear to make it but unfortunately they didn't. I really hope that Aptera will make it!

[@MiguelRockstarGarza]

I thought this thing was dead nice to see an update … now I want one

[@francisdebriey3609]

I am READY TO BUY !!! Bring this car to Europe !!!

[@arto1313]

thank you for munro channel, also have followed this aptera car like car.

[@thanksno4911]

I put in a reservation at the same time I reserved a CT. Canceled the CT with the increased price and Elon going nutz. Can't wait for this one!

[@fredbloggs5902]

You’ll be waiting even longer for a product that will never achieve the claimed figures.

[@AViewFromHome]

Very informative video.

[@morkovija]

i wish we had thousnads of those on the roads already

[@Secretlyanothername]

The solar powered aircraft tug is a Trepel Challenger 280e at Salt Lake City Airport, operated by Delta. There are videos about it, pretty cool

[@slartybartfarst9737]

I loved the Aptera when it was ICE (over 10 years ago) when it rose from the ashes as EV and had the chance I put my money where my mouth is and reserved/bought shares, my only concern was in wheel motors, nice idea but UK water and HV electrics dont mix. Im so encouraged by the sanity of the design direction with carbon body and drive shafts. My hope is 0-60 4 seconds or less is still there.

[@sanfrediable]

Excellent!

[@kenypetit-frere7016]

Great car. can't wait for production time.

[@shrimptopian3392]

IF they get to production time, they need million right now but they can't get it

[@Randy-J]

@@shrimptopian3392 Sounds like you're guessing. Unless you're an insider, you're not.

[@shrimptopian3392]

I have done research on aptera on a daily basis for 4 years now After 4 years it's still the same conclusion, very nice concept, horrible execution

[@reedjacksonmaccom]

so good. I didn’t hear too many negatives

[@esrandl]

Looking good so far! Carbon fiber rotors (expensive..) will solve a significant portion of unsprung weight issues as well as inertial mass to spin up/down. Might be worth a look as the car is all about efficiency and this is an easy major weight savings. If it costs an addl $1k to car it might be an option. ZR1 aftermarket carbon rotors are around $1.5k/ea.. but this car will require much smaller rotors. Not sure if anyone makes carbon rotors that small..

[@christopherbarrett9749]

Edward Deming is smiling, and the planning to get it done has been extremely interesting to observe. The Aptera folks have made sure they will have a robust, refined, long lasting, easy to repair, yada yada yada.

[@gandmemoney]

Very impressed, well done.

[@-LightningRod-]

Aptera,...WINNER

[@Leonardokite]

Woohoo, go Aptera!

[@gregfredericks5201]

Very cool, Makes my 2018 Model S look like a model T. :) Seems like a lot of cool tech come from California. Thanks for the most excellent video. One question, how does it handle a NTSB crash test?

[@geoff5711]

watch and learn not far from that now

[@eugenefleming6383]

Love your product

[@jackgreenstalk777]

Sandys two chiefs comment was unexpected lmfao😂

[@GlitterGuru]

Someone's Grandpa got loose again lol

[@billmanewal1786]

And grandpa had to squelch a dirty word: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGWkZnyhbKmphcUfeature=shared&t=2334

[@ryanl6316]

yeah chris and steve were prob like ... yyyyyeah don't keep us in the same frame

[@gbpg2016]

Most of those Indians were let go when they knew they wouldn’t get into production for many years.

[@keithoftheshire2805]

Go Aptera 👍👍

[@boballen9095]

Great to see and hear Sandy's validation and accolades. Current investors should be encouraged, and I'd like to join when investment gets significant below the $50K floor it's at now. Three questions you guys may or may not be able to answer quite yet, maybe after your track testing is done: 1 - Is there anything that would preclude towing the Aptera behind another vehicle, ideally including a wired connector to synch braking and brake lights between the 2 vehicles. 2 - If the answer to #1 is "It will be possible." then, would it be possible for the Aptera to be charging while being towed? 3 - At what stage will you be able to speak to roll resistance while it is being towed? If no to any of the above, might it be considered for a future edition/configuration? My envisioned use-case is towing behind a camper or other BEV configured for camping.

[@shrimptopian3392]

He is a investor in Aptera.... And actually the big hmmmm's that Sandy made worries me, it seemed like he didn't really believe Chris and Steve

[@harriettanthony7352]

This writer has a part answer to the questions. One Chris said no on towing. Two, there was another, failed, trike that DID tow[a video was shown]. In sum, to tow anything, go buy a Rivian or a Scout. I would never tow with ANY trike, the geometry is all wrong

[@jeffbertuleit5848]

Excited for delivery ASAP.

[@matthewholzmueller6292]

Its been so long forgot all about this. Investors must be weary.

[@shrimptopian3392]

Thats a understatement

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS CHRIS AND STEVE 🤗 FOR HOLDING ON TO THE GAME PLANS FOR QUALITY 👏👏👏 THANKS TO GRACE 🤗 FOR THE VIDEO AND KEEPING SANDY IN CHECK 😬🔋🔋🔋

[@lyfandeth]

In software development, alpha means it still has issues. Beta means it usually works but needs adult supervision. And the GAMMA release means we're ready to ship and sell, unless you can find any niggles left in it. So this Aptera is ready to go into production?

[@shrimptopian3392]

They don't speak about software, i think they don't have enough money to do the software

[@SteveBueche1027]

See the Aptera latest update. This was filmed before they have a rolling production vehicle. The software is done. They have an entire PI build finished minus a few exterior panels.

[@shrimptopian3392]

The software is done, really 😂 They are with only 29 personal, And Aptera has been completely silent about the software, if Aptera is silent about something i know what is happening,... Nothing much VW could not get their software correct, resulting in a half year delay But Aptera with 29 personal and no money will do it correct the first time It would not surprise me if they have only 10% of the software they need !!!

[@rchender]

​@@shrimptopian3392 You really don't pay attention or retain any information from what is revealed in the videos do you? They've already written just about all of the software and it's paid for.

[@johnpoldo8817]

I wish they would increase production capacity because my reservation is near 10,000. Can’t wait for delivery.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Currently they have ZERO production.

[@johnpoldo8817]

@ Duh, everyone knows that. Their production plan for first year is about 6K and that’s not enough for the huge backlog.

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@johnpoldo8817They’ll be lucky to produce 100 in that timeframe.

[@jonvelde5730]

I don't think range-anxiety is the problem, production anxiety is the actual problem. Vaporware anxiety, if you will.

[@BryanDoesCinema]

35:30 man that door has a good close sound.

[@seb_gibbs]

Good amount of thought and work gone in to this, my own concern is it maybe more complex than needed. Some areas could be simplified which would really help when it comes to mass production.

[@enwinn]

It would be interesting to see if the polymer solar panels with the “turtling” affect aero like golf ball dimples.

[@ranig2848]

Amazing work. Their biggest obstacle is that the $7500 tax credit does not apply to 3 wheeled cars so will be an issue (unless it’s cancelled or maybe by selling to people who do not qualify for the tax credit - which might work for a few thousands but not for high volume). It’s a shame the tax credit does not apply to it. Would be cool if Tesla ends up buying Aptera for the robotaxi…

[@SteveBueche1027]

Most people don’t owe $7,500 in tax so it didn’t do me any good when I bought my M3. Until they make it a Point of Sale relief, to me, it’s pointless.

[@ronfarnsworth7074]

​@@SteveBueche1027I believe it is a point of sale refund for a M3 now. No tax criteria or waiting.

[@ronfarnsworth7074]

Let's hope that changes. It's just flawed policy that Aptera doesn't qualify.

[@BryanDoesCinema]

I think all 50k of us have Chris and Steve’s presentation completely memorized.

[@savydude1]

Please bring them to Canada.

[@Randy-J]

Mine will be in southern Ontario one of these days. I ordered it a few years ago.

[@darinblanchard4593]

Wish there was some way Tesla could jump in with $$ and make this the Cybercab. It would basically remove the need for charging from the fleet. Nevertheless, I hope Aptera pulls through and changes the transportation game.

[@theninjineer]

Thank you for this deep dive and detailed look! P.S. Can I use a clip of this video in my Aptera news update next week?

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for watching! Feel free to take a clip - we just ask that we are credited and tagged.

[@theninjineer]

@@MunroLive Can do! Thank you!

[@suggesttwo]

2:21 as a cyclist, it's more than 70% air drag while cruising. More like 95-99%. Rolling resistance is nothing.

[@stephensullivan1011]

Haha. Me thinks you're missing internal resistance. Air conditioning, motor, energy being lost from just having the car/computer on. 🤙 If you were just rolling a dead car down a hill, yes you'd be right.

[@biffwilliams6191]

Aptera weighs 10 times more than a cyclist and Aptera has similar or less aero drag than a cyclist, so rolling resistance (and hence weight) is the dominant drag below 55mph and still an important factor at highway cruising speeds.

[@suggesttwo]

@stephensullivan1011 so the alternator in a caravan is rated for 160 amps. At 15v not 12 at 80 amps that's 1200w because not everything runs all the time. 30hp highway 7.5 hp city. Plus start/stop cycling. So he's closer in the city, I was closer on the highway. Also this vehicle doesn't have an engine in the vehicle with reciprocating pistons, rubbing against cylinder walls.

[@user-vp1sc7tt4m]

I'm a cyclist as well and you are absolutely right, air drag is huge at speed. There will be a percentage of mechanical losses which will be greater than on a bicycle but not really by much. You are carrying a lot of weight up hill but you'll get a decent amount back through regen, and I know electric driven bicycles have regen now but humans don't! Then there is rolling resistance to consider. All and all, maybe the air drag at 70% is of the total losses. On a bike, especially a thin tired, very efficient road bike, air drag surely is 95-99% of energy losses when going at a good clip.

[@amazeddude1780]

Every time I see a garbage truck go by, driving stop and go and stop and go, always at either idle or full throttle, the technology marriage between ultra high efficiency PV and EV just screams for deployment.

[@fredbloggs5902]

You’re welcome to provide your calculations… …oh wait, you haven’t done any.

[@lolok3478]

very smart project