Every PoE2 Keystone on the Passive Skill Tree! Location & Mechanics Breakdown | Path of Exile 2

[@Cyphafrost]

Just a heads up- Eldritch Battery likely isn't making it to initial early access, at least not how we know it. I found an infinite recursive loop that scaled mana forever using it, and sent a private email to support. This loop involved Discipline, since Discipline scales off mana. This likely would have crashed the servers due to the ridiculous amount of nonstop math that would need to be calculated. Hopefully they get a fix by only calculating Discipline off of non-EB values, but I wouldn't be surprised if they played it safe this close to launch.

[@dreamcore_gg]

That's hilarious - I also heard some rumours that it was cut and some others creators had asked a few of the devs on the official discord. When did you submit the bug? Interestingly, Jonathan himself approved my footage for me to discuss that keystone, so it must have been very recent?

[@TheJoosteen]

how did you get discipline to effect yourself?

[@dreamcore_gg]

@@TheJoosteen Likely party play

[@WhatIfTheories]

Dam hope it gets fixed I was planning on using Discipline for my minions and EB to stack mana so they get a beefy ES. I didn't consider Discipline on myself from a party and issues there.

[@Cyphafrost]

@@TheJoosteen Party play from all known knowledge currently- but there's a solid chance there was something somewhere to make it effect yourself too. It's a big game!

[@beziocraft]

A spoiler a day keeps the insanity at bay

[@Kay2kGer]

still sane exile?

[@beziocraft]

for now

[@yeetusmaximus93]

The truth 😂

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Dude im goin to be traveling i can only play day 11.

[@votpavel]

path of exile 2 was delayed until febuary 13

[@StayCalm0]

Maybe an odd thing to say, but I actually love the calm, slow and kinda flat way you present the information. It gives the viewer time to take it in and it's far more enjoyable than if you were fake hyping things up

[@fang_xianfu]

Definitely, I love that Dreamcore just presents the information and what he thinks about it without talking about how the world will never be the same

[@XxZarionxX]

Glancing Blows seems really strong with "Merit of Service", the new unique shield, which gives all allies block chance equal to yours. You give all allies nearly capped block with just one passive and they don't suffer from the increased damage taken downside.

[@prosamis]

This and how auras seem to be more supportive now makes me think you can really build a full-on support character Minions for solo play and full on auras for coop That's awesome

[@DrSensible]

I follow a loooot of POE content creators and you continue to rise up in the ranks of my favorites. No bait, no bad takes, just quality information delivered in an intelligent and concise manner. Keep it up Dream!

[@thephilosopher7173]

These videos made me realize how close-knit the community is. Great bunch of ppl.

[@dreamcore_gg]

🚨ONE WEEK TO GO!!! 🚨 Edit: By Heartstopper moved, I meant Lethe Shade

[@Last_Feanoring]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppuulKyqjq6keLs&ab_channel=Allie Edit, to add something actually important - The Eldritch Battery you might have seen that has "Converts all Energy Shield to Mana" is NOT going to be in EA. This was confirmed by Snap asking the devs. It wouldve been incredibly not ok. That EB was only in a old build of the game.

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Note regarding that last one (Pain Attunement) - the threshold for Low Life in PoE 2 is once again 30% of life, not 50% of life as it currently is in PoE 1.

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Unwavind stance seens focused in block. When you ACTIVE block the bar that fill and fu ck you when it happen its based in your stun threshold. Glancing blows only works for automatic/passive block. Active block still 100%

[@cheshur6550]

Unwavering Stance is to be used for shield builds, essentially doubling the break time for the shield.

[@Bozey]

unwavering stance is for block builds, specifically ones that are making use of the active block mechanic since the duration you can active block is based on stun threshold.

[@f5vicious86]

In regards with the Giant's Blood keystone. The highest strength requirement BASES in PoE 1 are the Coronal Maul and the Impact Force Propagator at 220 strength. While the highest requirement for unique maces is 212 strength. So you will only need 440 strength, not 850.

[@Sal_McCoy]

Thank you for taking the time to think about and then collect useful information for the community. This series of videos has been great.

[@dmagick914]

Loving these videos! Can’t wait to see the whole passive tree anx start theorycrafting

[@Disciple_]

Full tree when? Please tell me you've already sent that video over to the poeplanner folks.

[@coltonbellamy2742]

Ik im ready for it

[@dddmemaybe]

The 50% "less" mana regen rate for mind over matter is a very well designed downside. It makes it so that the build is still a very compelling concept, but sneakily requires a lot of deliberate stat-distribution balance, that of which will also prevent other build categories from feeling inferior.

[@carlos32195]

For giant's blood I'm thinking the best use would be using low lvl bases with high item lvl for elemental affix.

[@HugeCockAndBalls]

Tri ele weapons are nerfed with the prefix suffix change. Also generic ele damage seems less available now

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Note regarding that last one (Pain Attunement) - the threshold for Low Life in PoE 2 is once again 30% of life, not 50% of life as it currently is in PoE 1. As he mentions, we also don't know if Petrified Blood exists in PoE 2.

[@mishli7670]

I want to say that I saw petrified blood in one of the 'all skills' lists. But not sure

[@TheNuclearGamerr]

Ok just to clarify that means a monster counts at low life starting at 70% of max life?

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@TheNuclearGamerr No, counting at 30% of max life. It's not when missing 30% of your life, it's when your life is less than 30%

[@TheNuclearGamerr]

@ ah gotcha.

[@angrymikee9672]

My top-1 Channel about POE at this moment!! GJ Dreamcore

[@sagi3933]

I believe there has been confirmation that Eldritch Battery is changed to do basically what it does in PoE 1 (according to Ghazzy, this has been confirmed by GGG as well). That is a hit against a potential overpowered Archmage Setup that uses ES as Mana, but a win for using the new MoM defensively and perhaps Acolyte of Chayula, as it means he can Leech Mana and ES instantly, protecting and using both resources very well, with or without Darkness being used~

[@toukoenriaze9870]

darkness needs to not have any ES too for it not to be consumed

[@ChunkyCoffee]

Without EB as it was you would never want to use ES on a darkness build. Not unless the unrevealed node gives some insane bonus for reserving darkness counter to the chaos for unreserved. As darkness as it is is like a very small 600 damage ward for 10 seconds at lvl 100.

[@TheGabrielbowater]

Holy shit the 1handing a 2hander is on the tree? I thought it was an ascendancy passive. Dope

[@Mugi-v7w]

Something to point out is that increasing your stun threshold will also make it harder to be staggered while raising your shield

[@BenceBori]

what is a bohwohk? 😅 5:24 anyways thanks for the summary again, my man! you just made my day easier ❤

[@Yagami913]

Dreamcore with his infinite knowledge keeping me alive.

[@vgorp3849]

acrobatics seems like it will pair well with scaling blindness effect

[@doicaini7734]

Dual wielding sarforge? Count me in

[@ilusao1111]

MoM, Eldritch Battery, CI, Archmage Chayula Monk is looking fucking fun.

[@jeffrey778]

the way that life is now, they could have blood magic also convert mana into life pre modifiers. unwavering stance could at the very least have take 5% less damage.

[@baccadia6815]

Best Poe content here

[@TheLukeSchnabel]

Alright, just imagine it… dual wielding two handers as a boneshatter flicker strike strength stacker titan!

[@beasthaven1571]

😅 two duel hands sound insane but terrified if that’s allowed just how much damage does these bosses need to take down for us to get that boost!

[@Scyzzles]

I think Unwavering Stance is rather implying that you'll use movement to dodge big boss slams like in PoE1 instead of rolling. Avatar of Fire might be interesting to try and play around when you can only use each support gem once.

[@Gore-okami]

umvearing stance looks good for shield builds and shield charge. if we block everything on shiled charge i guess it breaks our stun trhreeshold as active block on "raise shield" skill

[@vegangainzhue4548]

Good shit, mate

[@frosty7832]

Any thoughts on this combo? haven't played the first game. eldritch battery: converts all energy shield to mana. eternal youth: life recharges instead of energy shield, life recovery from flasks applies to shield instead. zealot's oath: excess life recovery from regeneration is applied to energy shield, energy shield does not recharge. gets hp regen, when full hp you regenerate shield (mana), health flasks regenerates mana (and so do mana flasks). you could even add 'mind over matter' to change it to a more tanky build and make it so your mana takes dmg before you do and because both your flasks give mana; the 50% mana regen reduction doesn't seem like too big a problem .

[@BlurredVision18]

I thought the same, but when you take EB Energy Shield cease to exist, I would be surprised if excess recovery from Zealot's Oath starts regening mana.

[@impo997]

do you have any information on what snap said about eldritch battery? it was apparently changed after the november event

[@Tibasu]

CI+MOM sounds like what I want to do for a second character. Run around with a single point of life but a massive mana pool. Just gotta see how high the numbers can scale

[@toukoenriaze9870]

if you did CI + MoM you would be stunned on litterally every hit

[@Ashtarte3D]

New MoM is nuts for Chayula Monk. Could probably build all mana instead of life and go buck wild.

[@mrrodgers0]

Can't wait to try CI-MoM-EB Acolyte with the instant leech ascendancy node

[@IllNacs]

how will avatar of fire work with things like decay support (i dont know if its in poe2 but there has to be something similar)

[@TheNuclearGamerr]

I mean glancing blows will gel really nice when paired with ancient aegis

[@123darkdeal]

I keep hearing both versions of Eldritch Battery. There was a video recently that said the "converts to mana" is an old version that isn't going to be in the EA. Which is correct?

[@falsnamae3511]

In theory, and in practice, GGG are working on the game right up until, and even past, the beta launch. All these things are mutable, they can and will change over time, and that time could be this current week. Both are simultaneously correct and incorrect.

[@123darkdeal]

@@falsnamae3511 Blast! Schrodinger strikes again.

[@DrSamGalactic]

Imagine getting a huge mana pool as your only hit points and then running into a mana siphon rare :D

[@246Rennie]

How would glancing blow whit the Merit of service shield? it as the mod "Allies in your presence have block equal to yours", they would get your full doubled block chance but would still block 100% of the damage?

[@Frubeling]

CI, MoM and Whispers of Doom I think are it for me as I'm gonna be punching curses onto monsters

[@Freedom-33]

Great video (cool voice). In your opinion, would I be able to start Witch and realistically be able to get the Vaal pact node without too many downsides? I was interested in the ascendancy spell leech + Vaal pact combo

[@Shugenjya]

Blood Magic with Ifernal Flame will be interesting!

[@BlurredVision18]

Sounds like you're just adding a downside of losing life when you cast to your character....

[@Torguemada]

If we have Queen's Decree(or an unique similar to it) in POE2 i will definedly find a way to use "Giants blood" on my Witch.

[@virolancer1]

you keep us fed pog

[@thephilosopher7173]

I know the game is free but is tuition for the university course free as well?

[@beasthaven1571]

Yep ZiggyD would have you covered

[@paulc5389]

I believe Eldrich Battery was changed back? No unwavering stance to mitigate stuns going CI and MoM?

[@evrypixelcounts]

I wish I was smart enough to use this information to formulate a decent starting build.

[@esvban]

does stun threshold increase your stamina for block?

[@sandorjanospapp3127]

i hope so

[@Вьлпьдв]

It should, otherwise no reason to invest in it

[@travissullivan6575]

That's sad about Giant's Blood. Was hoping to DW staffs lol

[@mishli7670]

I wanted to use spear and shield QQ

[@SpecShadow]

Giant's Blood = we play Dark Souls/Elden Ring in PoE 2

[@xTomi123]

iplan playing chayula monk with instant mana and energy leech, using CI and Eternal Youth

[@hearthstoneteohden29]

No Wicked Ward sucks hard, how do we keep recharge up then vs loads of small hits if we start it via block or spell cast using the int nodes on top of the tree

[@Sherudons]

I'm more wondering about the potential of caster two handers existing... been waiting on monkey grip for a while though. Amulet slot being lost isn't all that bad for minions dependant on if +1+1 level mods are gone or still in this game.

[@Jaruppo]

Given the wording, I think acrobatics should also allow you to avoid spell hits, along with aoe hits, no?

[@dreamcore_gg]

Monsters don't have spell or attack categorisation in PoE2 for the purpose of player defences - you can already evade all monster projectiles or strikes without the keystone, and with the keystone you can also evade AoE hits

[@MelinaTheMad]

In PoE 2 there is no longer any difference between monster spells and monster attacks, at least when it comes to defences. This means that evasion will work against spell hits by default.

[@Jaruppo]

Oh my, high evasion builds will be amazing!

[@FalleNDragonn]

Acrobatics, but i'm a armour or es build is a nice choice? Im new

[@mishli7670]

​​​@@FalleNDragonngenerally you only want to take acrobatics if you have a pretty high amount of evasion. If you are focusing on armor/energy shield, it's probably not worth the points to get on the tree. If you are armor+evasion, or evasion+energy shield, there are some cases, like he said, possibly better on bosses for the chance to dodge the big slams, but otherwise you will be evading everything else half as much

[@progoldfish7441]

Zealots oath is so freakin good now.

[@Scorptice]

MoM CI EB is going to be meta

[@SilentderLaute]

Do we have more Information how Poison work? Will it's damage only scale with Physical/Chaos Damage dealt? How much damage of the main Hit will convert to Poison Damage? So many questions xD

[@SpudNug69]

does anyone know when/if we will gain access to the skill tree before release?

[@mishli7670]

I'm hoping so in the next 2/3 days But it's possible they don't publish it before EA starts

[@rainmaker6456]

Im so confused, I have been trying to find out archers get their mounted combat perk as showed in the ranger combat teaser but no one seems to display where it is or how to get it.

[@xiiopao_]

Does Corrupted Blood, like Bleeding, also bypass ES and requires to have dealt Life damage first? If so, does it bypass CI?

[@dreamcore_gg]

No and no

[@amitfrishberg5863]

Life + str stacking giant blood warrior. count me in!!!

[@lukevs1417]

Oasis might be stronger than we think. It's possible by removing charms that the charges generated to the charms will instead be given to your flasks.

[@mishli7670]

It also depends on if we can still get 'remove ailment' modifiers on life flasks too

[@seb4sti4n666]

Or the fact you can ailment immune with 100% resist

[@noobtastic-really]

I am really interested in doing to totem build. Scepter and shield? Use shield skills instead of weapon skills for damage and just drop totems all over the place?

[@celuiquipeut6527]

Do we still have " +% damage to minion is applied to you" ?

[@Вьлпьдв]

What?

[@ericwolfley9929]

I may be wrong but shockwave totem doesn't appear to require a mace to use

[@strangepippis]

Correct

[@ericwolfley9929]

@strangepippis my though was ancestral bond scepter with a shield use jagged ground support on a shield skill let shockwave totems go ham

[@hdim1]

Wouldnt it be nice to also know the ascendancy keystones?

[@Vantuk]

Curious what interaction CI might have with the Sanguimancy ascendancy point on Blood Mage. Does it just kill you? Probably. What we know of Blood Mage seems to focus on life stacking, so you'd never want to take CI. But I'll still probably try it once. lol

[@mishli7670]

In poe1, (just like MTG) There's a difference between taking damage and paying life. Usually you cannot spend a resource you don't have. So if you have 1 life, but every spell costs life. You probably won't be able to cast anything

[@beasthaven1571]

If I remember correctly it would use ur energy shield since that’s ur life now I could be wrong I played poe1 alot

[@Вьлпьдв]

You wouldn't be able to use skills.

[@xXVintersorgXx]

Do we know what weapons will be in poe2? Specifically spears?

[@PredatorPortugal]

Can you say where and when you saw ancestral bond being 100 and not 50? poe2db and poe2wiki shows 50.

[@dreamcore_gg]

November 8th PoE2 event in LA. Poe2db and poe2wiki are both from events months back

[@sodlock4666]

Wow a lot of keystones have changed

[@DantesBlowtorch]

Let me cook here... Acolyte of Chayula Monk with Embrace the Darkness/instant mana leech + CI + EB + MoM

[@Ashgan9]

not sure block and active block are the same thing so I don't think Glancing Blows will affect it, maybe I'm wrong tho.

[@vez3834]

From what I understand, active block just raises your block chance to 100% if the dmg came from a certain direction. But am not sure how Glancing blows interacts with Raise shield.

[@Ashgan9]

@@vez3834 hmm, I thought it was going to be a separate mechanic since it has a stun if your block too much with it.

[@sombrego2260]

The meme intros are cute and funny. They are still unnecessary but still very appreciated.

[@ZwrP]

i wonder how blood magic and infernal flames from Infernalist would interact

[@valentinedobringsky4158]

How does Eternal Youth works with Zealoth Oath? Life is not recharged?

[@mishli7670]

I believe life is recharged, energy shield is regenerated

[@OmichPoluebushek]

Same question

[@BlurredVision18]

Based on wording alone without any actual testing. It swaps the effect, normally Life is Regen, but Eternal Youth makes it Recharge, however it doesn't say that it replaces Regen, so Effects to Energy Shield Recharge should affect this interaction along with Regen. Allowing you to get to Full Life quicker. Once at Full Life, only the Life Regeneration, which doesn't have an activation time like Recharge nor can be interrupted, will start increasing Energy Shield as long as you have full life. For example, if you can keep an Overflow of your life with Blood Mage, then with high Life Regen you could theoretically have a consistent source of perma Energy Shield Recharge. But that would need to be put to the test. (I guess this is just an example of a Zealot's Oath interaction, lol)

[@danielmeagher9007]

is there a way to look at the skill tree before EA?

[@mishli7670]

Not yet at least

[@pluviasalutor1290]

New to PoE. I wonder what happens if you combine Chaos Inoculation with Pain Attunement?

[@beasthaven1571]

Doesn’t work together at all. Can look it up plenty of post about it over the years.

[@jvtps765]

You're always at 100% health

[@cristhianmarquez827]

Where can i see the interactable tree you use in this video?

[@Steven-t8h]

When the game launches, nobody will see it before that.

[@mishli7670]

He is showing recorded footage from a while ago when he was at a closed event

[@1273dave]

keystones i dont know how they will work with the monk

[@BDVinci]

Oh boy here we go

[@sober667]

Infernalist has ignites on not low infernal flame

[@BackyardPvP]

thanks i made it through...👍

[@leonsmuk4461]

maybe DoTs are extremely short or damage taken from DoTs can be interrupted in PoE 2, but Heartstopper sounds really bad on first glance.

[@vez3834]

I suppose you could invest in reduced ailment duration. And think of things like Sirus storms, if to use a Poe1 example, where you could go in and out real quick.

[@leonsmuk4461]

@vez3834 if i remember correctly there was some node that said you would stop taking damage from ground effects after 1 second, but I don't remember where I heard it -_-

[@Вьлпьдв]

Heartstopper was good in poe one against big dots like shaper beam or his void pools. I assume since number of bosses increased significantly that node will be much more useful in poe 2.

[@henrikswanstrom9218]

Has the PoE2 skill tree been released?

[@mishli7670]

Not yet

[@juliansegovia5539]

Do you see viable a monk with giants blood and two handed swords. I want to hit hard and fast.

[@peterlusstig2680]

its basicly on the other side of the tree... but if there is a will, there is a way :) just do it edit: just keep in mind that u should probably level as a true monk till ur like lvl~60 and then respecc into it... otherwise early game will be a pain in the ass

[@Вьлпьдв]

You wouldn't be able to since most of the skills that monk uses require quarterstaff. Iff you want warrior gameplay with monk ascendancy then you can do it, but no speed part in that case.

[@9024tobi]

I wonder if masteries will be brought into the game on release or if they regretted putting them in poe 1😅

[@jetsetdizzy9433]

Vaal pact, eternal youth, blood mage?

[@BlurredVision18]

Don't forget Zealot's Oath, with being able to Overflow your life and high Life Regen you can have a consistent Energy Shield "Regeneration".

[@RedDragonFlayer]

I dont understand the whole accuracy system they have now Does melee use accuracy or not? If it doesnt then why the is the key stone on the strength side of the tree

[@dreamcore_gg]

Melee still uses accuracy yes, and you need more accuracy the further away you are from the target. That includes melee if you're using slams etc.

[@rhodan74]

CQC skills like strikes don't use accuracy but as soon as there is AOE involved (e.g. slams) or skills have traveltime or projectiles (e.g. sunder, those monk windstrikes) it needs accuracy afaik

[@mishli7670]

​@@rhodan74pretty sure every attack (non spell) still uses accuracy. You just need more of it the farther the target is away.

[@Вьлпьдв]

All strikes use accuracy.

[@yanoamustamu2390]

Heartstopper sounds like a nobrainer with RF. Perma 75% less DoT from all sources on myself by setting myself on fire, is that how it works? I'm not good at building my own stuff so I'm trying to learn ♥

[@Вьлпьдв]

1 second is not perma lol

[@BlurredVision18]

you would be permanently taking 50% more damage....

[@hamedyari9370]

Does anyone know if snipers mark can or cannot apply to melee attackers?

[@mishli7670]

If you Google poe2db you can find all the gems/skills we know about so far. You should be able to find snipers Mark there

[@Вьлпьдв]

Only to "melee" skills that have projectile parts in it, like lightning strikes

[@justemy2516]

i totally dislike the placement of glancing blows. it was an awesome addition to casters like witch since most block notes are on the bottom of the tree anyways.

[@mishli7670]

I'm guessing that's probably the point. Casters have the advantage of range, I think this is too nerf some of their defensive options

[@peterlusstig2680]

my future huntress already loves the placement :D

[@Conqueror933]

I thought Eldritch Battery got changed back to it's poe 1 form?

[@Kalosj]

I've seen that elsewhere too - supposedly a dev confirmed on discord somewhere????

[@davormickoski4238]

Worth to mention that Iron Reflexes no longer has a downside. In POE1 if you had that keystone, dexterity no longer provided bonus to evasion. Since Dexterity in POE2 provides accuracy, which is arguably more important. Iron Reflexes is somewhat more desirable keystone now.

[@SiIberfrost]

I really don't see how Blood Magic would have any use. Mana regen seemed pretty easy to get from footage shown so far and Max Mana is definitely easier to scale then Life. Blood magic just seems like it's removing one entire resource? you also die faster since now your life pool is under pressure from skill usage. If it cut skill cost in half or gave you some max-life/regen to balance it would be at least acceptable. Am I missing something?

[@Elvayas]

Wild guess, this may be useful for the blood mage ascendancy if there's a perk for spending life.

[@mishli7670]

​@@ElvayasI was thinking the same, but issue there is it's most of the way across the tree from witch start

[@BlurredVision18]

@@mishli7670 you have to make a choice, remain spell focus, or str stack, which you would want to end up on that side of the tree anyway for the latter.

[@coldethil2567]

If u have 1 life from CI - does it consider as u r at low life?

[@Arthurcsc12]

in PoE 1 low life means life below 50%, there is a mastery that allows to be considerate low life below 55% HP. I dont know about PoE 2 tho. When you are CI, you'll be considered always at full life.

[@andrewtang8193]

No, you will be counted as full life, 1/1

[@coldethil2567]

@@Arthurcsc12 thanks

[@coldethil2567]

@@andrewtang8193 thanks

[@StepMochi]

Won't Giant's blood basically require just 424str (if PoE1 is considered)? Because at least in PoE1, equiping a stat satisfied item does not require the other weapon have its requirements on top of the already equiped weapon's requirements. 850str would be a shit ton, and a shit ton of life and if you got that roid zerker MTX, god daym.

[@Вьлпьдв]

It shouldn't, i think cumulative stat increase only applies to support gems, not character gear.

[@TheBadday78]

i really hoped for Minion Instability

[@apocryphascribe5019]

It's a support gem now.

[@TheBadday78]

@apocryphascribe5019 oh well thats good thanks didnt know that

[@OsloGuden]

Who is this man :o

[@shoesbutsockless]

The new damage conversion explanations are really poor because it's not being explained when or how the damage is being converted. The explanations I've heard imply that your stat before conversion (A) is then wiped from the games memory and it can never refence back to it, so no new increases in stat A will influence final damage because stat A no longer exists for your character. This would break the game if you can just refund you skillpoints spent in stat A after the conversion without a subsequent decrease in stat A, the same things would apply to stat A modifiers of armour you wore before the conversion which you can then just replace without worrying about a damage decrease becuase stat A no longer exists for you character. More likely is that the conversion isn't a one time permanent event that generates a new stat for another damage type by combining it with stat A. Instead, I suspect that you always retain stat A and the conversion only occurs when you deal damage and so you can still increase stat A and have that increase reflected in your final damage total dealt to the enemy next time you attack. It seems that in POE1 the modifiers to both stats were applied after the flat damage types were combined, but in POE 2 the modifier for stat A is only applied before the combination and either it's same for the convertee stat (scenario 1) or the convertee stat's modifier is applied after being combined with the modified stat A (scenario 2) either way the final damage will be lower than in POE1 but scenario 1 would also result in a lower final damage than scenario 2. From the way it's been explained I think scenario 2 is more likely, as long as you can't completely brick your build by picking a damage conversion passive early in your build I'm fine with it.

[@vez3834]

I can try to explain conversion when I wake up. You can ofc refer to the wiki for poe1's mechanic. I must ask though: How long have you played the game? (In hours)

[@Вьлпьдв]

What are you smoking rn lol. You have 100 phys damage, in poe 1 if you add something like deal 25% of phys damage as fire damage you will get 75 phys damage and 25 fire damage in total. If you increase phys damage by increases and "more" modifiers fire damage that you convert part of phys damage is going to increase as well. In poe 2 you only care about flat main damage, and dont care about increases and "more damage type" stats if you convert that main damage to another type of damage, you only care about increases and "more" to the end type of damage. There is no way to brick your build with it or somehow make game forget about existence of your stats. Its only used for calculation purposes and game doesn't actually delete anything lol.