Every Time Larry Bird Trash Talked And Got Into Magic's Head On 'Winning Time' 🐐

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[@richschneiderman613]

They really had Larry out here lookin like a corrupt cop who moonlights for the klan

[@ManofJazz]

He also had way more hair

[@jackrussell1232]

Well to be fair he did kind of look like a corrupt cop who moonlights for the klan. That's about the furthest thing from what he actually was, but that was his style in those days. Goofy sixties haircut and a short blonde moustache.

[@robertharmon5093]

Larry has been living in the mind of every 80's era player rent free

[@foxmccloud7055]

Don't forget that Larry Bird got into the heads of Pat Riley, Frank Layden, and Chuck Daly.

[@RRemegio]

what tittle this movie

[@foxmccloud7055]

@@RRemegio Winning Times

[@truthhearer6323]

Not in Magic's mind, he has 5 rings and Larry has 3.............

[@robertharmon5093]

@@truthhearer6323 Well said cant argue rings

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

Bird was ruthless but he wasn’t uptight and constantly angry like they’re portraying him in WT.

[@somethindarker]

If you're on the opposite side of the court, then hell yea he was. People were legit terrified of him.

[@gold6813]

It's just the current market and narratives the execs want. Couple of decades ago it would be different

[@Trwmck]

Oh yeah I forgot you were his assistant. You know how he was all the time, right?

[@jb3371]

Agree with this. But hey, they needed a villain.

[@antenanashi]

You cannot know from the outside how he was talking to ppl on the court

[@foxmccloud7055]

Larry Bird did this to everyone.

[@capitanfuturo594]

Agree

[@lw1391]

But he meant it with Magic most of all.

[@hippipdip]

“You’re gonna have a white boy cover me? That’s disrespectful.” Bird was crazy 😂😂😂

[@WiseguyThreeOne]

He asked somebody "Is your mom watching?" "Yeah." "Good. I want her to know why you call home crying later."

[@insanusmaximus2857]

I mean... Larry was cold-blooded, but he was also a little more jovial than they portrayed him. He talked shit, but he had fun with it, and he LOVED when someone took the bait and started busting their ass to beat him. I still love the character, though.

[@curtisscism1522]

The actor that played Bird was spot on. LOOKS and attitude. It’s an uncanny resemblance. Amazing casting, and make up.

[@MaximusWolfe]

Meh

[@NotTheWheel]

Thing I like about Larry Bird's life specially getting into College is it's so relatable to my life. Lot's of tragedy and struggle, refusing the call to greatness at first but then finding it within himself to try again. Very inspirational.

[@henryteccsi1114]

Glad you found your way brother!

[@RemoWilliams1227]

I too faced many challenges as a young man and persevered. We are strong, and savvy to boot because of the struggle. Now we have to teach.

[@younggod3906]

Gotta love Bird 😂

[@cesarbriones2419]

He’s a lifelong Lakers fan I fucking love Larry Bird. He brought the best out of us and anybody to talk shit about Larry Bird. Don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Oh I do

[@claudiaperico1863]

I do it, for sure!

[@debbiebrantley61]

I always have & always will

[@waydebrooks8056]

I grew up in New England in the 80s. Larry Bird was the guy every kid wanted to be like.

[@richspizzaparty]

Facts.

[@stevestarscream5182]

The guys playing bird and magic are incredible

[@karlepaul6632]

I loved when they introduced his character: "You know my fucking name."

[@HarmanHundal01]

Bird has a great sense of humour. Here they make him look like an uptight asshole.

[@JonSmith-hk1bq]

Understand that this is a TV show where Bird is basically the antagonist and seen from Magic's POV. Bird was an old-school competitor who would let everyone know that he was the big dog. If you google "Greatest NBA Trash Talker" you'll find him at #1 on most lists, yet he was reserved off the court. Not many people actually knew him. If this show makes it to 1986 and that Converse commercial shot in French Lick where Bird invited Magic to lunch at his mother's house, you'll get the other side of him.

[@bradleyboyer9979]

No kidding man. This isn't accurate at all.

[@DibbzTV]

He was a punk tho lol

[@richschneiderman613]

@@DibbzTV he was ice cold brother 🧊🧊🧊

[@aris_mendez]

@@DibbzTVand you’re a hater 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TheBlackKakashi]

When Cooper or whoever it was started talking trash to Larry after game 6 I was screaming at the tv like nooo don’t get him riled up 😂

[@k.c.r.5974]

Bird was insane. He's such a humble old man now that you would have never known it but he was absolutely a monster and I'm telling you this as a lifetime diehard Laker fan...i admire and respect the hell out of Larry Bird. I'll even say this...ill take Larry Legend for ten years over lebron for 20.

[@bb.cute.channel]

The series needs more Larry Bird stories!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

WHY? Go watch a series about Bird. This is supposed to be about the LAKERS.

[@Cristian-vm1bg]

@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 someones a salty lakers fan. its ok. larry forgives you.

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

@@Cristian-vm1bg Larry? The SAME dude Magic whipped 3 out of 4 times they met?

[@dwightlove3704]

​@@emmanuelenyinwa1443 Lakers should have been 4-0 vs Celtics if the refs would have been doing their jobs and eject McHale for that CLOTHESLINE INCIDENT vs Rambis they would have swept Boston in '84!!!!!

[@dwightlove3704]

​@@Cristian-vm1bg Lakers:Team of the '80s enough said

[@austinshannon4197]

Larry bird is a top ten nba player in history. Very underrated.

[@leemathisthebrutallyhandso2072]

Very underrated indeed...I personally put him in the top 2.

[@billblaski9523]

Jordan didn't start winning rings until Bird retired...maybe it's a coincidence, just saying

[@toddsands6000]

Bird was never underrated. From 1984-to-1986 Larry Legend was considered the best basketball player in the game. Michael Jordan's 63-points game 2 performance against the Boston Celtics in the 1st. round of the 1986 Playoffs represented the future superstar of the NBA.

[@TheFinancialFrank]

​@@billblaski9523AND MAGIC caught HIV

[@wadeyearsago]

Jordan never beat Bird, swept him twice. @@billblaski9523

[@broaddusmarines]

Personally, I would have rather watched a Winning Time series dedicated to Larry Bird and the Celtics. To me, Larry Bird’s back story is infinitely more compelling and Shakespearean than Magic’s story.

[@TheBlackKakashi]

They’ve been saying F Boston so much that I would be surprised if they don’t get a show 😂

[@insanusmaximus2857]

And his injury and slow decline over the second half of his career... and the way he still dragged himself up and down the court to get the Celtics into the playoffs year after year... would have fit right into that Shakespearean epic.

[@DanShouse0607]

Not to mention joining the greatest team of all time and winning gold to end his career... Shakespearean maybe Hollywood worthy definitely.

[@Follower_of_Havel]

LA is easier to create marketing. I also agree, the story even treated Larry as just an asshole, not a guy who talks shit but has fun with it

[@BrettCutler-g4u]

Network is scared of racial accusations, garunteed.

[@codythomas1450]

Damn the casting team did amazing finding the actor to play Larry cuz damn that's spitting image

[@billmcpheeters1888]

I thought casting did a great job finding all of the cast members. Ain't easy finding a 7ft. black man who can act, play basketball and looks somewhat like Kareem.

[@codythomas1450]

@billmcpheeters1888 that is true lol casting crew definitely understood the assignment

[@jameskohn5855]

the casting on "winning" time was fantastic..the characters were almost better than the people they were playing.

[@KevinKilgorepage]

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[@erics9754]

No, it sucked Larry Bird was much taller. Kareem was played by a 6ft 9 or 10 guy lol. Larry looks like a short psycho version of himself and they portray people in a bad light in an over-the-top way. I was disappointed that they did it that way. I was around in these times and this is the worst bio-type series I have ever seen. They make excuses for Magic left and right and never admit that he lost to the Celtics because they had a better team at that time and Larry was the better all-around player period.

[@KevinKilgorepage]

exactly !@@erics9754

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

Better ? Doesn’t make sense. Better at being Bird than Bird was at being Bird??? Same with Kareem, Magic, Buss, Aerabach, Riley etc etc.

[@daverbook]

@@erics9754 Agreed, and I like the description of the fake Bird as a short psycho version! If I were Bird, I'd be laughing at how amateur this biopic was.

[@Aries816]

I really don’t see how these two characters becoming best friends like in real life😂

[@goriotv2023]

Yeah me too😂😂😂😂

[@daverbook]

Yeah, agreed, someone knows less than zero about pro b-ball.

[@patjenkins1308]

That's because you believe that Larry Bird was actually the dick head they portrayed in this series he wasn't really like that

[@doktorcopernikuss]

Larry, if you read this, we love you. Thanks for all of the awesome memories

[@eltiggre]

😂 ahhh you gotta love the hick from French lick

[@mrouncervideos2905]

I moved to Southern Indiana from L.A in 94. These Southern Indiana Hoosiers are tough as hell on the court.

[@CapoWhoLaughs]

I think they nailed Bird. Acting and demeanor. Bird was an introverted awkward guy since childhood especially after his father's suicide. Sure we know bird was relaxed but to his opponents... he was ruthless. He even admitted he was pretty antagonistic towards Magic. So pissed this show got canceled.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

It got cancelled? Wtf! Looks like this is gonna join that long list of great shows that got cancelled way too early. Dammit i hate how great shows get canned but then other shows that are mediocre will somehow run for like 10 seasons

[@CapoWhoLaughs]

@jeremyroberts8822 yup that's why this season felt rushed. They blew through like 3 years in season two to buildup Bird.vs Magic

[@msbolan]

They didn't nail Bird's demeanor at all. He wasn't an angry, uptight miserable prick. Although he was laser-focused, he was also jovial. He enjoyed the rivalries and the give-and-take on the court. BUT.... this show is from Magic's perspective, so that may well be how he saw Bird at that time.

[@TPowell31]

My favorite moment was from season 1 when the actors who portray Magic and Bird first time together on screen during the press conference.

[@youngronnn4834]

It was hilarious “let’s get this shit over with “ 😂

[@bornresaabe]

Larry Legend 🐐🐐🐐

[@calkelpdiver]

This synopsis glosses over Bird going to Indiana University and playing under Bobby Knight. Bird quit the team in frustration with Knight, and then took the next year off working odd jobs. It is true Indiana State came to him and gave him another shot. Rest is history and the amazing story of Larry Legend. I saw all of this going on in my late teens and twenties. Always loved it when Boston beat LA, my favorite games to watch.

[@brucedavis3816]

The Larry Bird parts were the best part of the series!!!!

[@JoelAvila-s4e]

We need a Larry Bird in today's NBA

[@pablosonic892]

This actor's presence is eeiry how much he not only captures how Larry Legend look, how he talk, move around, but his entire essence. It look less like an actor playing him than they did a deep-fake it so spot-on. The rest of the cast look like what it is: actors doing a reenactment of real life events, but the Larry stand-in don't seem like a body double. It look like they digitally inserted actual documentary footage of Larry Bird into the existing shot scenes of the movie with the lookalikes from set.

[@rolexmarcelo3218]

This definitely wasn't real but the player characters were soo on point!

[@JustMNY]

it's a series about the lakers and magic, but everyone wants to see the bird scenes :D

[@MaximusWolfe]

Larry should have a movie based solely on his life. Incredible story.

[@dwightlove3704]

Bird said that he was 0-2 vs Magic he lost to him in college and Magic was in the NBA FINALS and he was at home watching.

[@junjunsantos8974]

When it's your show and somehow Larry Legend sneaks in and steal the limelight. This is how legendary Larry is breaking the 4th wall by getting inside Magic's fans as well. Imagine watching this as big Magic fan and then Larry Legend creeps in like a freaking nightmare. Damn!

[@jonmcclane7433]

I like the way they did Bird as an asshole, which he was, but he was a lot more playful about it. But the dude playing Larry really knocked it out of the park

[@migaudiblenofourdigitbullshit]

takes one to know one. Wow what an asshole.

[@meachy]

We were all robbed when this show was cancelled. I got my HBO just to watch it.

[@jimmyjam5146]

French "Leak" at 7:08. C'mon. Redo that audio.

[@carolynclaire5241]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@ChairmanMeow1]

All of season 2 should have been about larry and bird. The few scenes that included both were the highlight of the series.

[@pbennett13]

if the show gets ti the ‘84 season.. that will be off the hook

[@ScottParisi]

The Heak from French Leak

[@Mowemi38]

bird is so cold

[@toddsands6000]

As a frustrated NY Knicks fan back in the 1980's, I'm glad on the depiction of Larry Bird in this series. I haven't watched the series yet because I'm aware that it's based on true events and some of the series is a bit fabricated. But Larry 1st, and then Julius Erving were my favorite players growing up. I don't care what today's fans think of today's GOAT conversations. I won't argue about Michael Jordan and LeBron James because those great players have amazing stats. But Larry Legend and Dr. J will always be my guys. And I revere Earvin Magic Johnson, Kareem and the other Lakers, but I was an east coast fan at heart. I always say this from other forums on KZbin, the 1981 & 1982 Eastern Conference Finals were the best back-to-back 7 game series I've ever watched. The 1981 ECF by itself is considered the best 7 game series in NBA history to this day. I never get bored rewatching those series.

[@gregallan2842]

"1981 & 1982 Eastern Conference Finals were the best back-to-back 7 game series I've ever watched. The 1981 ECF by itself is considered the best 7 game series in NBA history to this day. I never get bored rewatching those series." Agree with every single letter.

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

Couldn't agree more. 1981 Larry Bird was a BEAST. People remember Bird as a trash talking jump shooter, but Bird began his career as a no nonsense interior BANGER. Ine the first half of that 1981 series,he was tossing the Sixers big men around like rag dolls.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

Absolutely Celtics down 3 to 1. Then the Celtics earned the Blue Collar Badge of Honor and win 3 in a row. The 88 Eastern Conference Finals are a close second. Bird with Bronchial Pneumonia, bad feet and back brings the Celtics back in the fourth to win game seven. Bird just willed it.

[@LusterThomas-if7nt]

The thing i will always love and respect about bird as a black man is he never bought in to the white Jesus stuff,and he never saw race and he didn't try to "fit in with the Brothas". He was just who he was a bad ass basketball player who was a hick from french lick.

[@antenanashi]

He learned basketball with black guys !

[@davidca96]

Both Magic and Bird did not act like this, although these actors copied their look pretty damn well. Bird was not that angry, Magic didnt cuss like that, they didnt trash talk each other with that kind of anger it was much more respectful from both sides. I dont like how this made both of these guys look.

[@ttlg-theturtlelordgamging9339]

I love this show so mad we didn’t get more they guy that played Larry was amazing Vic as redd was amazing

[@playerone3885]

This is a decent portrayal of a Bird from the perspective of your typical Laker fan. You have to remember there was no social media back then, no podcasts for players to get comfortable and show a little bit of who they are. Bird early on was incredibly shy and awkward and sometimes that made him come off prickly.

[@theonetrueking587]

As a fan during the time this rivalry was going on, I didn’t care for Bird nor Magic but they were both great players, but as great a player as Bird was he really couldn’t talk to much trash to Magic having lost to him in the college championship game, and being down 5- 3 in NBA championships 😉

[@jaycompany4886]

I hated the Celtics until bird arrived, i actually rooted for the Celtics against the show time Lakers....most intense rivarly in sports ....in the 80's, it was a must watch.

[@haiasieel6099]

Bird was a G.

[@GOsborn-o6x]

Since the story is told from the Lakers POV, it’s only natural from a storytelling perspective Boston would be portrayed as villainous. But no matter the perspective, there’s only one constant in this story: Bird was cold af

[@44Gulick]

I revel in great joy that a show that was supposed to be about the lakers ended with the celtics winning a championship.

[@williampthomas6100]

Bring back winning time smh. Maybe the 90s bulls

[@rogueprince1341]

They should give the guy who played Bird a miniseries. He was AWESOME as Bird.

[@atlantahawksfan8443]

Man they got Magic acting and talking like Franklin Saint

[@ttlg-theturtlelordgamging9339]

My favorite scene is when he shows up in his work clothes lol

[@erics9754]

The guy playing Bird is shorter than the guy playing Magic Wrong Larry was 2 to 3 inches taller just look at pics of them.

[@youngronnn4834]

But he looks just like the young version of the real deal don’t ya think

[@dirtyface-capone7622]

Yes I always saw Bird measured at 6'10..Magic 6'9....People forget how big Larry actually was.I was watching an interview with ex NBA player Jamal Mashburn.Played PF with the Mavericks/Heat during his career.He was part of a college All Star team that got to scrimmage against the Dream Team in '92.He said the first thing that shocked him was how big Bird actually was in person.I believe Mashburn was 6'8.Bird was really about the same height as Nikola Jokic.Just quicker & more fluid.

[@EMcgame.23]

​@@youngronnn4834I mean they can put something in they shoes make them taller

[@peterdangelo5882]

The actor was great - perfect. But yeah, he was not angry all the time - he didn't rough people up for no reason either.

[@accllr8]

bird never trash talked in a nasty manner. He almost always had a smile on his face too. None of this shit happened the way it is portrayed. Just go ask larry and magic

[@somethindarker]

Tell that to Lambeer.

[@accllr8]

bird never talked trash to laimbeer bc laimbeer never covered him; lambeer just fouled the shit out of him@@somethindarker

[@aragorn1ring]

I get its made for TV but come on. They made Magic look almost schizophrenic. They both state during that time that they respected each other even though they weren't friends. In this it sounds like Larry Bird is an asshole for assholes sake which he isnt. Most NBA players who played against him describe his trash talk as low, quiet and matter of factly. "I'm gonna go over to this corner for a jumper and it better not touch the rim, if it does I'm gonna come right back here and do it again." This imagining of Bird seems like hes always angry.

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

Beta white male fantasy. Magic didn't give TWO shits about Bird. My favorite Magic moment was after the Lakers put their foot on the Celtics ass in Game 6 of the 1985 title and were celebrating in Boston, Brent Musberger came to interview Magic. Magic gave him the smile and he went away, but the camera stayed on Magic and he started making a circular motion with his finger on his head "that clown is crazy".

[@danielmccurdy862]

Got a lot of folks in the comments talking about how Larry isn't like this, how funny he is, and you're all right... but you're also missing context. We've got all the interviews of Larry and Magic as friends now, but this story is being told from the perspective of the Lakers during the 80's. And to those Lakers (and basically anyone who wasn't an actual Boston Celtic or a member of the Bird Family) this is a perfect depiction of Larry, because that is all he let ANYONE see. This is brilliant characterization on the part of the storytellers and a knockout performance by every actor involved. If you're gonna tell the story of Magic and Bird as a STORY, rather than as a documentary, then Bird is your natural Villain. He's your Darth Vader. And even though it isn't accurate to his actual personality, it IS accurate to his personality as he allowed himself to be perceived by the world.

[@SerenityNow666]

Bird and Magic were friends for a while.

[@erics9754]

Bird was portrayed in a goofy manner. He was a likeable but competitive confident guy. They portray him here as an asshole like the bad guy in real life he was a good hard-working small-town guy with good values and dedication. It was insulting the way he was portrayed and it was very biased so I stopped watching. I hope they make a Celtics blue-collar time TV series that gives Magic and the Lakers a taste of their own medicine.

[@yao052]

Could you be more uptight? It was the first season. Jeez.

[@Drew914]

"French Leek?" C'mon. AI sucks

[@drewbaughman6746]

Larry legend had a sense of humor and humility about him not how WT is making him out to be but they do need a villain so it makes sense but they need to make more episodes canceling wt was crazy

[@Sharbecca23]

If we gotta pick anime characters for basketball? Magic johnson and Larry Legend are obviously Goku and Vegeta

[@goriotv2023]

And in the end of the day. They became best of friends.

[@hubertsumlin9697]

He said French Leeek LOL...solid research

[@Hesco2-4]

Larry Bird got in my head and I dont even own a basketball

[@Justthegoat-l1b]

I wish I could of go back in time and watch Larry he was cold

[@THEYTHINKTHEYAREGODS]

This series was so good

[@ReflectionOfPerfection]

They got Bird on the court right, but off of it he LOVED to party with his teamates. Its not a coincidence he won 3 straight NBA MVPs after they traded his drinking buddy Rick Robey. Winning Time portrayed Larry as a heartless killer but in real life, off the court he was jovial and happy

[@feriolbalisi3054]

EVEN MJ CAN'T BEAT THE PRIME LARRY BIRD

[@KJGrim]

Such amazing casting on these 2

[@malcolmt7883]

According to the series, Magic was apparently insane.

[@adamb.9968]

This is what’s called historical fiction

[@paulfiebke3909]

You know what's sad, don't believe neither one use dirty words like that. Bird was quiet and used his playing to show his game

[@darrylbrown8253]

If you watched the first season when Magic made it to the finals the first time they had bird watching the series from Indiana with his brothers were using racial slurs. From what Magic really said, is that his family loved him in real life.

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

@@darrylbrown8253 they tried really hard to make everything about race with this show

[@darrylbrown8253]

@@vincenthammons-kd9dudont get me wrong there was that dynamic but Larry never participated in that stuff.

[@danzemacabre8899]

I just saw a snip of Bird and MJ from mid to late 90s they were both cursing like sailors at each other, it was hilarious it was in a brotherly love place though not hateful but you can tell there's alot respect between those two ,but any way , I kind of believe Bird let the words fly on the court and a little off too

[@angelocejas6668]

3:44 Hilarious 😆

[@ZelB84]

Man I was dying laughing

[@Brianp978]

To bad there won't be a season 3

[@alexswanson9665]

I couldn't care less about basketball, but I love Larry Bird

[@hoodoutcaast]

God I love Larry bird

[@Follower_of_Havel]

The series is interesting but what they did to Bird was unfair. I doubt they would have the courage to bring up the part where Larry invites Magic.

[@overlytoxic]

winning time might be about lakers. but portrayal of larry bird felt better than any laker player.

[@Ocrilat]

Why did they turn Larry Bird into a cartoon villain? If he was anything like this, why do the former opponents (including Magic) respect him so much? According to the NBA stars he played against, Bird 'trash talked' by either telling defenders what he was going to do before he did it, or was being funny. Here Bird is portrayed as a psychopath. It makes everything else make no sense.

[@bradleyboyer9979]

This is a horrible portrayal of Bird. Bird is hilarious.

[@cowboyschad5x778]

He’s hilarious in the portrayal

[@philliesfan3414]

I loved the scene where Larry goes to his teammate. What the fuck you staring at the floor for? There ain’t no answers down there

[@SamArthurmunro-e3i]

Larry is such a goat I put him as my profile pic

[@faceones]

Not even close to real life

[@davanmani556]

I would like to see an Episode from the ‘85 Finals where he gets into a bar fight at Chelsea’s.

[@ttlg-theturtlelordgamging9339]

Rip David stern his nba was the best he was the best commissioner

[@davemartino5997]

Had Larry and Kevin stayed healthy they would’ve won 84-87 minimum

[@stormminami2056]

Never forget when Isiah Thomas told a Larry Bird story where he felt insulted because he was defended by a white guy 😳 "you got them no brothers ? dont ever let a white guy defend me" 🤣

[@dwightlove3704]

I wished that the Lakers had beaten the Rockets in '86 so everyone could have seen the obvious another Lakers&Celtics battle

[@melvinhunt6976]

Magic was as big or an even bigger trash talker !

[@LordUnas]

I don’t think Bird was this angry all the time. This show makes him out to be a real asshole.

[@lynxiong2040]

Thats a good cast

[@aeuro23]

"You know my Fkn name"

[@TH-qt5gb]

I dont get how you can look at the body of info on Larry and then make him look like hes angry all the time

[@gsadventures678]

French Leek?

[@thewkovacs316]

why did they turn magic ghetto?

[@kameronedwards1698]

And Larry really told defenders what he was going to do , stop playin with Larry 🐦 that man was the shit and im a Laker die hard