Every Time The Alpha Legion Did Something Loyalist | Warhammer 40k Lore

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The loyalty of the Alpha legion has been hotly debated for a long time, so lets forget about the debate and simply look at all the times the Alpha Legion did something loyal.
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[@majorkill]

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[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

[@shmeeeeeep8797]

As Alpharius, I can confirm that my legion is the Alpha Legion… probably.

[@shmeeeeeep8797]

Also a video about the different Inquisitor sects (Monodominants, Horusians, Thorians, Istvaanians) would be dope as hell.

[@callumrichards7347]

My theory is this. Alpharius is dead, omegon leads the legion. Omegon knows the cabals 'prophecy' but chose option 3. He keeps chaos and the imperium at war, with no winner. The imperium lives. It does not die, it does not stay in stagnation exactly. He thinks there's no better way.

[@Sciontabier]

Please make a Nykona Sharrowkyn/Raven Guard inspired major mini.

[@planetbob6703]

Don’t forget Alpharius hiding in plain sight for the last ten thousand years. He’s been sitting on the golden Throne dressed up as a spooky skeleton! Gotta give dad time to build a secret force after all!

[@magnusmillerwilson]

Nice. Best comment so far. ❤

[@bludhuuntr4946]

Alpharius would get his taste smacked out of his mouth if malcador found out through the warp that his son went against his other father. I could never see Alpharius being disloyal after being raised by malcador and big E personally, along with a competitive rivalry with his older brother Valdor. Also remember the great name swap.

[@monkeykingyo6359]

I think it’s proves 2 things, 1.Horus musta been Super convincing with high high charisma, 2. Even primarchs can have brain fart moments, in alpharius’s case millennia long brain farts 😂

[@bludhuuntr4946]

​@@monkeykingyo6359omegon definitely took the traitor role. But I think he knew it would mean he died but allowed for the great game to take shape. Alpharius now is nowhere to be found. Hidden in plain sight possibly. Waiting for his time. The Emperor first son will have his redemption.

[@AlphariusDominatus]

​@@bludhuuntr4946Alpharius was never a traitor. Omegon was.. Dorn killed Omegon. The End

[@ohamatchhams]

@@bludhuuntr4946 Yeah, I personally would take the Live! from black library guy over Majorkill with this one, there's no way that OG Alpharius would betray The Emperor and Malcador's will like that, as he's supposed to be found before even Horus and Lion, although to simplify it further, only Alfa Legion's executives are loyalists (or at least pro-Emperor but anti-Imperium), meanwhile the legislatives, judicial bodies and the newer recruits are confused bunches that often drawn into the path of Chaos warband within Alfa Legion to the point their confusion breds civil war within their Legionary structures (despite it's being technically among the most intact Legion in 40K for 10.000 years after HH ended)

[@michaelmastriano7566]

Malcador was the father who stepped up, not the stepfather

[@radish_dash4155]

I love how the new Alpha Legion book, Harrowmaster, basically confirms that with how secretive and confusing the 20th are, that in the modern setting they are exactly as confused about the Alpha Legion as the fans are

[@will117am]

We are all confused 😕 Alpha level confused, lol

[@dovahfett5919]

I love how all the chaos lords lost their crap when one of them introduced himself as Alpharius

[@Captain_Bart_Peterson]

I found this on one video of Alpha Legion: Both Alpharius and Omegon only pretended to believe the cabal. They actually planned to sabotage the Traitors from within. The thing is, they both made this decision separately, and neither of them knew the other was pretending. The Alpha Legions' secretive and scheming nature had begun to work against it. Even if they had been honest with each other, they wouldn't have believed each other. But they both found ways to discretely help the Loyalists. Alpharius launched an early attack against Terra before the rest of the Traitor Legions arrived, which helped Dorn identify and fix all the planet's weak points. Omegon was sent to recruit Jaghatai Khan to the traitors, but instead provoked a fight with the White Scars so that Jaghatai would go off on his own to find his own answers. And when Alpharius and Dorn fought, Alpharius outright offered to throw the match and help Dorn achieve victory, but Dorn just ignored him and killed him.

[@kinosaga21]

I have half of that theory, I think either alpharius or Oregon did turn, but the other didn't; keeping it from eachitber, they played 3d chess, sabotaging each other for one end of another.

[@konigstiger8518]

I hope this is true. It'd be funny

[@philthephilosopher9235]

​@@kinosaga21Ah yes my favorite primarch, Oregon.

[@Meme-Republic]

Based Dorn 🗿

[@maltheri9833]

​@@philthephilosopher9235Origami the shape-shifting primarch

[@wolflordgio6320]

Absolutely love Omegon out of the two twins his agents were the best imo “What does your Primarch expect from you?” “Everything”…

[@Lazrael32]

When Omegon makes his return (probably the last one to do so) i hope he reforms the loyalist Alpha members into the Omega Legion.

[@coot33]

Gulliman is Alpharius and Alpharius is Guilliman.

[@MetPhD]

Except, he is Alpharius…

[@AlphariusDominatus]

Alpharius was the first primarch either found or was never lost. He was the only Primarch that was pure and raised by The Emperor and Malcador.

[@Nempo13]

Don't forget, Alpharius and Omegon also swapped names. So Unless GW forgot about that, then it was Omegon that Dorn killed and Alpharius is still out there.

[@AlphariusDominatus]

@@Nempo13 yeah I know that. It seems nobody else grasps it. Alpharius was actually pivotal in giving Horus bad information about The Sol System's defensive strategy especially around Saturn which led to a massive delay on assaulting Terra. Bought enough time for The Ultramarines to spook Horus into going for the gambit letting the shields down. Saved The Imperium ultimately

[@jiekimbuous]

What if it was all planned by Malcador and the Big E all along. The whole heresy,everything,what if they and Alpharius plotted this whole thing out in secret with Alpharius being the only one of the primarchs to know of the whole ordeal. Considering he was raised by the two it’s not entirely implausible. It explains why the alpha legion did random things to help the loyalists,they were a tool to ensure everything went to plan.

[@Bobrob1597]

@@Nempo13I think it’s a bit more 4D chess than that. The Alpha Legion have been known to swap minds with other astarties to better sell lies. For instance what if one of them ran into Mangus and he did a little bit of mind probing. While Alpharius and Omegon can block their minds from being read, what if Mangus or Big Daddy E were able to get around it? A mind swap would be the secret within the secret further protecting their identity. So I truly believe that while Alpharius fell vs Dawn, it was only the body of Alpharius but the mind of Omegon. That’s why when Alpharius died, Omegon had a massive physic backlash from it. Not because his other half died, but because his original body died. Lastly they had the knowledge of the mind swap psychically removed from their memories. Within their minds is a code word that would unlock their memories, this code hasn’t been uttered in 10,000 years.

[@JaghataiK]

It was Omegon who was living as Alpharius after being “discovered” and was pro Cabal and died at Rogal’s hands, leaving the real Alpharius who is secretly a loyalist to play 4D chess with his legion. My sons are weird sometimes.

[@ShawnCorn]

This makes the most sence but so many people dont see it like that

[@Kriegsmen-7803]

I am still loyal to you father

[@camarofan2008]

What if Alpharius/Omegon was/is an ascended primarch like Corvus Corax? When every Alpha Legion member claims to be Alpharius, what if that was true? He having some sorta of ability to hop from one body to another, so really is every member and not at the same time.

[@sneakyarcher12]

Thats an interesting idea, its quite similar to a certain Mr The Infinite and i like the idea that the two primarchs are facing each other indirectly through influencing various warbands, but I see the Alpha Legion as being to divided for that to be the case.

[@zaer-ezart]

There's a new book that kinda disprove this theory. In the book it's stated that all of the alpha legion space marines that were present during the horus heresy have died therefore the new generation has no fucking idea what their goal is and the entire chapter is separated into smaller groups each going their own way doing their own thing and only a small fraction of them still does the whole "I'm alpharius" thing. The rest of them doesn't

[@The_Keeper]

@@zaer-ezart Remember ALL lore in the 40k universe is told by an unreliable narrator... It could all very well just be GW messing with us, and trying to be sneaky about something.

[@yoursafeplace8476]

@@The_Keeper Nah bud, if the lion is old as fuck from still being subjected to time, even tho he was literally hidden in the rock and asleep all that time so he rlly shouldn't look as bad as he does, no one else is gonna look any better. Definitely not regular ol marines from the heresy era, without warp spaghetti happening.

[@kaeamillin8379]

@@zaer-ezart Whats the book?

[@MrFallenone]

The Harrowmaster book was great at exploring the diverse factions inside the Hydra and why serving the Alpha Legion is the best pick for regular humans among all the legions.

[@zigmus00A]

There are so many revelations to in that book I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Though that could simply be because of how recent it is

[@joshley1320]

It wasn’t the that great the main character was insufferable at time

[@ImperialHarbinger]

After reading Praetorian of Dorn and the Alpharius novel, I feel like there are hints that the Alpharius found on Terra, and the Omegon found during the Rangdan Xenocides, swapped names after meeting each other. Some of the evidence to reach this conclusion involves the fact that in the Alpharius novel, Omegon was found with and used the Pale Spear, despite Alpharius himself usually being depicted as wielding this spear. Also, in the Horus Heresy book The Primarchs, in the novella The Serpent Beneath, "Omegon" inexplicably regards his own oddly private, completely unmarked suit of armor, which to me seems like a telling memento or reminder of the Ghost Legion (the Alpha Legion before they found Omegon). The more deceptive or Imperium-friendly acts usually attributed to Omegon seem to be more in line with how Alpharius claims he was taught on Terra in the Alpharius novel (taught how to fool others' senses of their perception of him, supposedly founded the blood games, etc.). In contrast, Alpharius outside of this novel seems more callous of human life, as well as more direct and confrontational, blowing up an actual settlement in the previously mentioned The Serpent Beneath novella, and actually coming to blows with Dorn and seemingly losing his cool; this behavior seems more in line with the Omegon from the Alpharius novel, who would not have received Malcador's training and is most likely the primarch who assaulted Horus' flagship. As confusing as this probably is, I think there's quite a bit of evidence to suggest they simply swapped their names after finding each other. This would mean that the "true" Alpharius, the one found on Terra, is the one still alive, under the guise of being Omegon. When it comes to the Alpha Legion, at least there's always more fuel to put on the speculation fire.

[@holywaterbottle3175]

He is pretending to pretend to be himself. What a baller

[@mortongaming1090]

I hope Leutin09 does a dedicated video on the Alpha Legion. With all his theorizing and scientific explaining it will be 10 hours long.

[@AlphariusDominatus]

Boy oh boy.. he'll get lost in the weeds 5 minutes in and make a tangent about the CIA and Mujahedeen.

[@ginnotheseer7624]

Then he'll end the video by saying "this is a lie"

[@aleksra7766]

Remembrancer has a great video about them

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

@@ginnotheseer7624 And begin by saying "I am not Alpharius"

[@rednemo9634]

Ah yeah, the Schrödinger's Loyalty Legion.

[@vince5000]

People say they are loyalist because it's confirmed in the book "The End and the Death"

[@maltheri9833]

But it's not though. They had 3 different codes with 3 different courses of action and that particular legionaire was activated as a loyalist.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

"The End and the Death" does not confirm they are loyalist. Rather it gives an explanation for why the Alpha Legion is so confused. They had 3 contingency plans, as mentioned above, all trained into the minds of Alpha Legion agents. These marines were not activated all at once, and each was given a different directive. One Legionare ran Xenophon, the plan that makes him loyalist, while Ingo Pech ran on the traitor activation code. They do not confirm them as traitors or loyalists, rather those who fought in the heresy were running on contingency plans that only the Alpha Legion librarians and chaplins could deactivate. There all dead, and the Alpha Legion was basically at eachothers throats.

[@codysing1223]

What happened to the Alpha Legion? The alpha legion 😂

[@rebel1717]

There was also a moment where a squad of guardsmen were fighting off a swarm of tyranids, but Alpha Legionnaires saved them at the last minute.

[@trimeerious4349]

Getting a video about how each of the pre heresy primarchs would have reacted to being in Guillimans situation as imperial regent would be pretty cool ngl

[@CodexQuinn]

Konrad: "TIME TO START THE SKINNING!"

[@carnivaleyes1650]

Can y’all let this one go lol

[@richardthomas9497]

I recommend a video about the Remembrancers during the latter part of the Great Crusade. About their duties and role as the ordinary human POV characters in the Horus Heresy novels. Including a focus on Ignace Karkasy, Mersadie Oliton and Euphrati Keeler with the XVI Legion.

[@bludhuuntr4946]

A great war rages in the shadows and dark alleys and forgotten sectors of the galaxy. A war of spys.

[@Nempo13]

The very concept of a Space Marine 'spy' amuses me so much. These guys are HUGE, they don't exactly fit in.

[@GoufinAround_]

I genuinely think that the Alpha legion are a mix of everything. There are full blown chaos Alpha legion, mixed bag who are only "loyal" because they're anti-chaos but don't necessarily go and help the imperium unless it benefits their own fight against chaos, and then straight up "LOL at Raven Guard being the sneaky guys" loyal from the shadows Alpha legion

[@sasanahadian2859]

Superb video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?

[@zer0teku]

I think the Alpha Legion sees themselves as the necessary evil to the imperium to keep them engaged with and aware of the chaos. They seem to act as a "teach em the hard way or they won't learn it" type of training force

[@daninaval9569]

I believe that the one who killed Dorn was Omegon and Alpharius is following Malcador's orders before dying, acting loyally from the shadows while pretending to be traitors in order to carry out acts in favor of the emperor that the empire itself would classify as treason or heresy. Most alpha legionaries don't know why they fight, but the warband that keeps doing the "I am Alpharius" thing are actually led by Alpharius himself and when necessary the alpha legion will sacrifice its traitor warbands and They will unite under the command of Alpharius in favor of the emperor in the last and great battle against chaos

[@patchesgaming9139]

In the Alpharius book Alpharius took up the role of Omegon, also why would Omegon be the loyal one? He has spent less time with the Emperor and Malcador and would not have a reason to be loyal to them so there's a far larger chance that Omegon was the traitor and Alpharius was the loyalist.

[@williammiller4768]

I’d really like to believe that the Alpha Legion low key aids the Lamenters out of sheer empathy. Not like total victory aid, more like “Almost all of them didn’t die” kinda aid. Even clearing their paths just enough for them to succeed in their missions.

[@Masso-gy9yu]

I've got one. What if the Primarchs where found in the order of their creation. So the Lion was first and Horus was nearly last. I think that could change quite a bit, don't you think?

[@browniechann88blackie55]

I had a similar theory if they were all raised on terra without influence from the adopted planets the landed on

[@browniechann88blackie55]

They would of conquered the galaxy then settled on planets of their choosing maybe the warp gifts they received wouldn't of manifested meaning sanguinious wouldn't have his wings no wulfen or a red magnus

[@maltheri9833]

​@@browniechann88blackie55Pretty much. They'd have been indoctrinated properly. Though then again Alpharius was raised on Terra and he ended up 4d chessing himself to a splitting headache

[@jeyeldc4423]

I read this somewhere wherein whoever is appointed warmaster will inevitably fall into chaos.

[@browniechann88blackie55]

@jeyeldc4423 yeah more or less with the original lore being the warp scooped them up, with the recent retcons being the primarch 's mother having trying to save them when she discovered the emperors plan with them saving them or so she thought had she not been killed by erebus the possible idea of her returning to the imperium to help guide them, if the primarchs ever discovered they had a mother and not just a father their could be some hurt feelings malcador and the emperor had planned for a heresy or civil war the question of who would turn they had assumptions but no proof After magnus warned his father he believed it was magnus. After investigating and the truth being confirmed, he was still in disbelief as were the 1st 6 found brothers they would then discuss who would join horus, malcador questioned leman too, which the emperor replied, russ never so he designed certain primarchs he needed most to never falter. Horus was incredibly jealous of each of his newfound brothers, even valdor, who he saw as an illegitimate son not worthy of his fathers attention. Old lore saw the very faults of horus building over time

[@lionheartfilms793]

I still think Omegon was the traitor, and it was Omegon who died on Pluto's moon. I think he just hijacked the Alpharius Identity because nobody knew about Omegon and he needed legion loyalty. Why would the first found primarch personally raised by Malcador ever betray the Imperium. Going along and being a double agent is the very type of thing Malcador would've taught him, not to mention that was the whole purpose of the Alpha legion to begin with. But, Malcador didn't raise Omegon. Also the weird alien artifact spear was Omegons weapon he found on whatever crazy ass alien world he landed on. The Alpharius that died was wielding that spear. Alpharius being the first found also would've known all his brothers the best albeit from a distance and would've known Dorn wouldn't entertain a supposed traitor. Omegon however likely didn't have that knowledge. I don't even think Omegon was necessarily a traitor, he just didn't play the same game as Alpharius and Malcador. I personally am all for Alpharius showing up out of nowhere saving the Imperium G-man losing his mind only to be psychically backhanded by the Emperor and told that's his most loyal son and the only one that did what he was told.😅

[@bluhd2265]

Another fun fact as to why they are broken and do not trust each other is that they have no living horus heresy veteran. The alpha legion did not travel to the eye of terror, they stayed in real space. They are very similar to the loyal chapters in that they have lost most of their legion knowledge and the only unifying goal they have is the destruction of the Imperium. They don't really know why their ancestors joined the traitor legions but they are still following their commands

[@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble]

i think the code thing is the best way to describe it. some are loyal, some arent, for various reasons

[@DarkApostleNoek]

I've just started reading Harrowmaster and it has been fun so far. The Alpha Legion I have seen so far have been Chaos aligned at least. My take is they are like the Dark Angel Fallen some are Imperial, some are Independent, some are Chaos. Though Alpha Legion Independent and Chaos are actually more on the same side it is just how their Warbands will operate.

[@raphaelrodriguez8316]

Wait, I thought the twist was that Alpharius was Omegon and a Traitor, and Omegon was really Alpharius who switched places with him and was a Loyalist.

[@planetbob6703]

I prefer the theory that Alpharius is the loyalist twin. Better sounding name with more recognition, supposedly raised on Terra, had all that backstory with Big E, Malcador and Valdor, etc.

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.

[@khazgrim4316]

"Please and thank you" I think he has to now.

[@TAIWAN_40000]

Wonder what the loyalist primarchs would do once they found out about Omegon. Would they pummel and execute him or would they give the little brother a hug?

[@sirhoon87]

If it was Vulkan doing the hug that's another primarch with a broken back

[@maltheri9833]

They'd execute him. They wouldn't accept that what he did justified the end. The end being a dead Emperor and a destroyed empire

[@darthrevan1281]

They'd give him a wedgie.

[@firewolfx5456]

I swear major is like a 6 cylinder revolver. Popping off excellent video after video and it's not even Christmas yet

[@crimsonconquestcustoms2584]

Would like to see another day in the life of Majorkill video. Been two years since

[@terminator9489]

Can we get a video about each primarch reaction to the emperor being put on the Golden Throne after the Heresy ?

[@terminator9489]

@MarjorkillYT yes ?

[@themitchnater7800]

Majorkill you should do a video on the life of a chaos cultists

[@Just_Lars]

I always feel like when people talk about the Alpha Legion, Head of the Hydra is completely ignored. I mean yes, all records lie, but who tells us the same doesn't go for any other books. The main theme I took away from Head of the Hydra however was: Alpharious was always aware that, all things considered, he as a person is not important. That Omegon isn't important. The only thing that matters is which options they set up and ultimately chose to execute. Especially Alpharious lived his whole live in the shadows, as a non-existent person. The mathematical unknown nobody could calculate with. Always bordering with his actions near heresy, since the duty that was imposed on him by Malcador was, to protect humanity. Whatever the cost! Ironically, this made him in my opinion the most unlikely to fell to chaos. He had just one obligation, and if this meant to seemingly betray humanity, to be able to protect it more effectly, so be it. Nobody had liked him anyway, really. It was the perfect cover. Because, of course even Alpharius nor Omegon could predict who would come out on top ulitmately. The only thing they knew for certain was, that they had to prevent both prophecies of the cabaal from happening, because both would mean the end for humanity. The problem regarding the death of one of them was, I think, that they realized that fighting a primarch wasn't something they could impose on anyone else. And so, one has to die so the other one can continue the work. Setting cogs in motion, placing small seeds so they may be reaped when time is due. And when the Arch enemy tries it's final blow, they will probably be there. Aside from all the Lore-Discussion, we also should not forget that the Alpha Legion is basically a perfect plot device for GW. All the trash talk aside, with them dispersing their forces basically on any possible outcome, they made sure whatever happens, they'll come out on top. And with some people claming that GW has written the universe into a corner, I can see them picking the Alpha Legion as a literal deus ex machina to resolve that. Hell, they could just one day appear with a million trained and fitted space marines they created themselves with the untainted gene seed, crushing the tyranid invasion short of terra or something as far as potential storytelling is concerned. Wether this is disiarable or not is a whole different story.

[@beanperry]

Lets not forget about the Alpha Legionnaire that has been spotted working with Eisenhorn.

[@Mephiston]

eisenhorn also has a daemonhost, though.

[@beanperry]

@@Mephiston he isn't a daemonhost, he controls one though. I like Cherabul.

[@cheeseburger12]

​@@MephistonEisenhorn is a radical, but at heart loyal. I don't think that will change. Abnett even said he was going in that direction, but it was too predictable and decided corrupted but loyal was more interesting.

[@Mephiston]

@@beanperry I know, thats what I said. he HAS one.

[@Mephiston]

@@cheeseburger12 I kinda miss gav thorpe's vision of the whole setting. He did design the game after all. Not trying to take away from abnett, though. he's a great author.

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

Lore on the Imperial Navy, high lords, mutants, and Ecclesiarchy please

[@muckywookie]

Absolutely love the language and presentation haha keep doing what you're doing!

[@DoomStroller]

Omegon is definitely chillin like a villain. They might be the most confused astartes in the galaxy. But they are super fuckin badass in their execution of misguided actions.Im always a sucker for alpa legion content. One of my top factions

[@majorasmask5523]

Majorkill, are you familiar with Mass Effect? Because I’m wondering who would in an all out war between the Tyranids and the Reapers.

[@Damien_N]

Reapers may do well in small engagements given that they can quickly convert fallen enemies to their cause. But on a galactic scale I think the tyranids may win out - they have faster ways to reinforce than the reapers. Much easier to cleanse worlds behinds the front lines and take that biomass onboard as direct reinforcement resource.

[@maddraugr4667]

The reapers obvs. They are machine-beings ancient and super smart that have wipe out the galaxy clean several times already.

[@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595]

@@maddraugr4667 I think it greatly depends on how much biomass the Tyranids can get from Reaper Husks. However, given that Husks are mostly machinery from what I remember, it'd be a pretty shit deal for the 'Nids and, as you presume, the Reapers would prolly win.

[@maddraugr4667]

@@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Another thing will be the indoctrination of species ability, i do not think that the tyranids are susceptible to it, but the most of the rest of the Wh40k should be, making everyone(or most) unite againts the nids and fight to the last will be a huge and catastrophic war, entire worlds will burn the reapers will appear benevolent to much all while life on the galaxy gets reaped. As planned. That i think gives for sure the victory to the reapers.✌️

[@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595]

@@maddraugr4667 I presumed this scenario would be a 1-on-1 between Reapers vs Tyranids, with the Reapers having husks from previous Harvests and making more from fallen Nid bioforms. If we take into an account that they're rushing to see who gets the bigger part of a galactic buffet I actually think it's more debatable, as then we have forces like Chaos and the Necrons who are involved and are very capable of killing both of the original competitors, assuming they can bring their forces to bear properly.

[@thecornconquerer4947]

Can we get a vid on what exactly gene flaws are? Like the red thirst and black rage are the biggest examples I know but does each legion have some flaw they’re prone to?

[@MrDorkbot]

There should be a tally of every time the dark angels did something heretical VS every time the alpha legion did something loyal.

[@Zeppathy]

Plot twist. Neither are loyal or traitor. Both went the independent rebel route.

[@alexderksen1213]

hey Majorkill. I was curious if in the future there would be a video about the modern Eldar, and the necrons current relationship. It would be interesting to know the modern day Eldar perspective on the returning necrons. And the current necron thoughts on the now dying Eldar. Also it would be cool to hear about some battles between the two races in modern 40 k.

[@jaegerbomb269]

I can never forgive the Alpha Legion for screwing over the Raven Guard. May they have vengeance!

[@omegon2540]

Sorry

[@Anni3sgotagun]

Cry More

[@command_unit7792]

Their Primarch would have been dead if they didnt save him...

[@JKore905]

Alpha Legion saved the Raven Guard.

[@jaegerbomb269]

@@Anni3sgotagun go purify yourself in the waters of elucidation

[@quarkedbutt3957]

My favorite name for vapes that the guys in my Company call theirs is: Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhelation System, or P.E.N.I.S. for short

[@RawDogAnAeldari]

I think the Alpha Legion is like the Fallen in terms of loyalty. Because the Fallen didnt have a lot of answers when they were cast into the warp and had to decide for themselves what to do, and the Alpha Legions secretive nature meant they were in the same boat.

[@necroenkai2300]

I'm always on the side that Omegon was the one that died to Dorn. Alpharius wearing unique battle plate and going on to 1v1 an opponent just isn't his MO. He takes to the field personally to ensure a plan or objective is met, but that's usually with him hiding who he is really. There's also the fact for his upbringing he was already in command of his legion, and controlling it from the shadows. Then there's Omegon who was raised alone on some planet and likes to wield unique battle plate and weapons. Basically Alpharius is more of the type to keep his direct involvement to minimum while Omegon would one to confront someone directly. In the Alpharius book we even end off with Alpharius arranging for Omegon to meet Horus to mark the official return of the 20th Primarch. Hence why I think Omegon was the one to charge dick first into Dorn only to have it sawn off. One theory that I've been brewing is that Alpharius was still the one to be traitor while Omegon loyalist, however Omegon's death/actions made Alpharius realize that the cabal's prediction is no longer valid and turned back loyalist.

[@billalumni7760]

Space Marines motto, "Do what's right". Alpha Legion motto, "Do what's right for you".

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

They say the Thousand Sons are dedicated to Tzeentch, but the real twist is that Tzeentch is dedicated to the Alpha Legion.

[@robertharper6481]

Omegon meeting the lion or the autist and how that would effect current setting would be awesome.

[@Zeppathy]

Still think A/Os unique primarch ability is to inhabit multiple bodies. Explaining his one soul being split between two bodies, and the legion claiming to all be Alpharious.

[@Frescko]

Video 50 of asking ‘What if Nykona Sharrowkyn killed Fulgrim’

[@guesswhoandrew1782]

This is actually a great video idea. Nice

[@omgcranberryisnumba1]

Another wonderful installment

[@hmpang4996]

@Majorkill I was wondering for the past few days whether Orks being corrupted by chaos is still canon or not?

[@dankdaze42069]

Man they have the drippiest armor

[@aksis3008]

I love that tabletop wise you can feasibly run alpha legion as loyalist or traitor, lore wise they can access equipment from both tactics from both and their objectives could align with either

[@khorney202]

My impression on the alpha legion was some groups were given missions to help the loyalists and that's what they went with and the others who went on traitor missions became CSM's. Could explain why traitor legionnaires don't think there are any loyalists left in the legion?

[@transfan962]

Do a video on the chief librarian from each legion.

[@legio-IV-Cataphract]

A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

[@kapistar1]

Awesome video Fulgrim

[@redluke8119]

Majorkill with the Major upload schedule 🫡

[@brickwall9781]

I got a conspiracy theory that Cawl's Primaris project was derived ultimately from the Raptor project that the Alpha Legion stole. They also coulda had a hand in keeping the project unknown until the big reveal

[@daninaval9569]

Wow that makes sense.

[@ironlegion8214]

These videos are making alpha legion my favorite legion as time goes on

[@ragnarokivae6136]

Great video! To the alpha legion on vraks, I personally think they don't intervention to help the imperium, but more for their own to heat it up. When the imperium sends Astartes and titans, the whole battle gets more and more hectic and a lot of chaos warbands and traitor titans showing up on vraks as result. And it wasn't far away from being clear that the imperium will win this battle. I personally think the alpha legion did this, to weaken booth sides and cover some 9f their secret missions

[@DanielWW2]

My personal head cannon these days is that Rogal Dorn fought and killed Omegon, who was pretending to be Alpharius. Omegon who was in fact Alpharius, didn't fight and got killed by Guilliman. He is still around and secretly is still a loyalist who occasionally helps the Imperium in the most Alpha Legion way possible. The Alpha Legion meanwhile has largely fractured with some elements being loyalist who still take directions from Alpharius. Meanwhile the traitor elements of the legion, occasionally also take directions from Alpharius who plays the game and sacrifices lesser Imperial holdings to keep up appearances and enable the loyalist Alpha Legion to keep secretly helping the Imperium. I feel this way because Alpharius was the only Primarch actually raised by the Emperor and Malcador. And the line of thinking that Alpharius/Omegon displays, is arguably what you would get if you get raised by mainly Malcador. It also fits with all the Primarchs being very heavily influenced by their upbringing. In general they all seem to have been designed by the Emperor to be very impressionable on top of certain traits being designed into their genetics. A bit like taking the nature vs. nurture debate in humans, but taking both elements to the extreme. Then again, Primarchs are extreme "human" beings in all regards. Not just their physique or abilities, but also they way they function. They are humans, but where as most individual humans occupy a small part of the entire spectrum of what defines humanity, the individual Primarchs, tend to cover a very broad spectrum of human emotions, thinking patterns and other elements indeed. It quite frankly also clever writing which makes Primarchs, potentially such interesting characters.

[@ulrichvonlichtenstain9378]

Video idea What would’ve Perturabo do with Imperial city defenses, if he had been put to build it over Dorn.

[@luker2235]

Hey Majorkill. Do you rekon you would ever make some really cool eldas shirts/merch next merch drop?

[@borisvodka3068]

Agreed, Omegon is blatantly alive, and the legions split between fallen warbands that followed alpharius and ultimately ended up sucking on the chaos tit and those who stood with omegon and are still loyal

[@austinhu9388]

Live from the black library does a really good job talking about this too

[@EbeeDeeby]

Glad we've got to the bottom of this difficult question!

[@Supersurfer12]

If humanity died out, wouldn't Slaanesh still feed on the Eldar? Was the Cabal a tool of Tzeentch?

[@lurkingedge]

The Third Path. Alpharius 2nd and Omegon 1st chose a third option to the Cabal's two choices, Alpharius 2nd aiding Horus, and Omegon 1st aiding the Imperium. Alpharius 2nd tried to convince Dorn of his cause, something Omegon 1st, formerly Alpharius, would have known better than to try with Dorn. Ingo Peck wasn't just operating under loyal orders, he was tasked with waking up a unit of stasised Alpha Legionairs under the Imperial Palace and giving them the loyalty code word, then leading them against the traitors. Shout out to Live From The Black Library for putting all this together.

[@obi-wankommo-obi6880]

Imperium: Are you loyal or a traitor? Alphareus (Or maybe Omegon): *Well yes, but actually no.*

[@ChrisLove887]

Alpha legion out there doing just enough to convince whoever the winning side is that they were with them the whole time😂

[@emmanuelijomah8163]

Yeah they're definitely Loyalist Quote : We work in the dark to serve the light. I don't think Rogal covered alpharius his death to shame him, alpharius and Rogal might have had a conversation upon his death and told him exactly what was going on and how to save the imperium inorder to sell the story to Horus

[@mnk9073]

You know how the Custodes need field experience? Know how nobody can ever know that they ever leave the Emperor's side? Voila, Alpha Legion. Alpharius is standing guard right next to the Golden Throne, perhaps juckling to himself from time to time.

[@michaelhowell2326]

Wasn't that Alpha Legion base a Necron construct?

[@juliancalero8012]

0:45 except financially. There's my obligatory plastic crack joke

[@1074kilo]

I'm starting to see that the Alpha Legion is an entire legion of The Fallen.

[@janisir4529]

Alpharius: Brother, I forgot whose side are we on.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Not all Alpha Legion are traitors, and this is proof of it. Omegon's boys are the best Alpha Legion boys. I like to believe that these Alpha Legion guys, or at least some of them, are a part of a secret order under the leadership of Omegon. The Omega Legion if you will. And they are secretly working to help the Imperium from the shadows.

[@nimbusshadow-wings]

The one sin control, Omegon to be specific, is probally trying to help the imperium form the shadows, like section 31, without having to deal with thh Administratum and the fucked up rules that the imperium has now. More flexibility

[@codycurtin2295]

GIVE US A SHROUD OF NIGHT AUDIO BOOK ALREADY GW! But also I would love to see in the next Harrowmaster novel we see a loyalist Alpha Legion warband faceoff against the Serpent's Teeth, it would be sick.

[@w4rpf1nnlad]

They are my favorite traitor legion, but also my favorite loyalist legion. Also story about covert ALs shooting each other was comedic-gold.

[@NotJosh5]

Love it baby. another day, another *asmr video

[@chestnut4860]

"Alpharius was arrogant and kind of stupid" * *sniff* * Finally I found a primarch to empathize with.

[@papageorgeo6792]

Keep the good shit up compadre

[@loltwest9423]

The one thing I hate about the Alpha Legion's lore is their explanation for why Alpharius turned traitor and him deciding to duel Rogal Dorn alone. That shit was stupid. I can only hope they give us a really good as fucking explanation for what that was all about. Thankfully, everything else is super-based AF.

[@imper818]

You need to read Renegades: Harrowmaster. For firstly its a great book but it also realy elps understanding the mindest inside the alpha legion warbands

[@DarthAzabrush]

"I'm a spy, Leela, that means even I don't know what side I'm on. That's rather silly That's politics"- Co-Ordinator Narvin- Gallifrey

[@Goyimdemduc]

I never played Warhammer never owend any figures never even read a Warhammer book but this Guy makes me a fan of it 😂he talks about Warhammer but he makes it realy fkn funny to watch he puts in a cheeky joke once and a while this channel has realy grown on me thé last couple of weeks

[@AR99.99]

Do a vid about Iskandar Khayon.

[@Talock2000]

Would really like to hear his take once he has read the new Alpha Legion book renegade

[@marshallcooper9697]

Yay you did it thank you. Now I can still confused.

[@qontoh2s872]

Excellent!