Everyone Hates Escape From Tarkov - Inside Games

[@Matts_Mind]

Title needs to be flipped. BSG Hates Everyone

[@AbsoluteKhan.]

Lmao

[@bratanvova]

They just thought they were the shit. But it turns out they are just shit.

[@lemonchicken41]

Both can be true 😄

[@TheGeekHeroes]

Battlestar Galactica???

[@lemonchicken41]

@@TheGeekHeroes BattleState Games, the developers and publishers of Escape from Tarkov.

[@Num43]

And all of this does not include the insane amount of cheating this game suffers from.

[@4Pickledonions]

Never played tf2 before.

[@noobmaster258]

Yep!

[@multikillerpro1]

They don't ban IPs so cheaters can just buy another account

[@AndreiSZS]

One more "expert" watched an KZbin video.

[@Num43]

@@AndreiSZS I watched several videos about it. Do you have a better source of information regarding the topic?

[@KrikZ32]

Especially funny because you've been able to play PvE Tarkov thanks to mods for years now, and the mod is actually way better than the official version. You don't have to queue for servers for offline play like the official version.

[@lemonchicken41]

Yeah SPT's quality was the thing that made me quit online Tarkov. The SPT developers take quality of life way more seriously than BSG and I just got more and more frustrated with EFT's long-standing issues.

[@les121476]

Just don’t log on with spt installed or your account could get banned

[@KrikZ32]

@@les121476 I think this is a myth, if not it's not really enforced because I swapped back and forth a lot at first before just sticking with SPT because of hackers. Even accidentally running them both at the same time didn't get me banned.

[@Nemesis-1431]

Lawrence, not sure if you knew at the time of this recording but the devs changed the wording of its contract to make it that this DLC isn’t considered DLC in the eyes of the contract (what ever it’s called). So they damn well knew what they were talking about future DLC being free for EOD players and now this one not being free; there was no miscommunication there at all!

[@SrReal1st]

i remember when the worst thing Nikita did was drunkenly berate and insult people on the subreddit.

[@lindenkennedy6999]

Came here to check up after I just saw funhaus is ending. So happy to see you guys posting regularly. Would love to see funhaus esq stuff but I’m sure you get that all the time. Just happy to see you two active

[@Station27Steve]

I'm surprised they didn't touch on the website editing. Saw a video of a streamer checking out the site and the site edited out a lot of stuff and even took out stuff from the 'DLC' page of the site to support BSG's statements. I've put my own couple hundo hours into Tarkov and would've gone back if they fixed it (less likely after they doubled-down the first two times). But after seeing that edit (and the 'date' at the top to show the last time it was edited also remained unchanged), that was much too shady. Way way. No matter what they do, never again.

[@97Mcomputer]

Misinfo that needs correcting: 1) The Unheard edition is only $250 for those that haven’t bought any edition of the game EOD owners only had to pay the difference between their version and the unheard edition which is $100. The same was true of any other editions that were bought that they only had to pay the difference to get Unheard, not the full cost 2) EOD was priced at $150, not $100 3) BSG has primarily DMCA’d content creators who featured an unofficial mod known as SPT which allows players full progression in an offline mode they can play by themselves 4) They did not offer the 50% discount to EOD owners until the day after the original post made by Nikita 5) At 5:55, I’m unsure what Lawrence is referring to, but if he’s saying priority matchmaking existed for EOD owners previously, this is completely false. EOD owners have never had priority in matchmaking queues and this was merely an attempt to add something to EOD to make it more “special” like many felt it was supposed to. The thing which was especially silly about all this was that EOD owners received the Arena game for free, something that is completely separate from the base game and also does not require you to buy EFT in order to play it. That could be very easily argued as not being DLC. However, the PvE mode is quite literally a clickable link you use within the same game to play a different mode and which requires having purchased EFT in order to play it. That is the cognitive dissonance which pissed off EOD owners so intensely. It feels more like BSG realized they should’ve monetized Arena to EOD owners and are now trying to make up the windfall for that by monetizing something they shouldn’t. There’s also a lot of nuance to the discussion of whether increased stash and pocket sizes are P2W. What was pay to win and made many people upset was an item that was said to be released in a future update that would allow players to “call-in” their friends to a raid they’re actively in to assist them. This fundamentally upsets the entire flow of gameplay and is very necessarily going to alter the experience for other players who did not own that version of the game, very necessarily making it a P2W advantage.

[@kpahk]

this guy have no clue about the situation but he saw the hype and well... exploited it without much knowledge and that is wrong. I don't want to say BSG are off the hook but at least he had to do his homework a bit. But i can't expect something with value from average youtube money grinding guy.

[@Pyrus335]

look at the russian lmfao

[@superherocollege]

Lawrence is 1000% correct; people would in fact pay $250 or more if you just wined and dined them! Just look at GTA Online / FIFA Ultimate team both are essentially “pay to win” and have players who are EASILY spending $250 annually and that’s not even talking about Whales who are probed by spending $1,000+. Remember people would never pay for a $30 cheeseburger individually, but people would love to spend $50 for a cheeseburger while they’re eating at a 5 star restaurant. We humans are easily manipulated by context!

[@Samhain23]

You can't claim anything in Stellar Blade was censored, there is so far no evidence that the devs were forced to change anything against their will, until we hear further from them on the matter. It may look like censorship if you want it to but it could easily just be the devs deciding they didn't like the aesthetic for whatever reason.

[@me14784]

this isn't the first time. they almost considered arena a second game and not included with eod

[@masterman9001]

10:45-11:22 is such damn wise words. From league of legends to overwatch to tf2 to helldivers 2. Just because you're whaling now doesn't mean it will still be around, especially in the way you liked/wanted. Hell the old asym multiplayer game nosgoth was one of my faves, but shit died even before it shut down.

[@Chooch1080]

I posted a comment a few weeks back. Asking that if a source is being directly quoted. The original source and writer name be displayed. I made that comment know it meant more editing. I dont know if it was read or not. But I have noticed what I have felt to be an increase in that very thing. Whether it was because my comment or not. Its made me very happy and trust yall in your commentary (even when I may happen to respectfully disagree on some issues). I know the work in producing these videos goes up the more edits (sources) you put in the video. But I love it. Hope yall are doing well. You produce excellent work. Bravo 🤙🏿🍻

[@PBaloo01]

GREAT episode. I'd heard buzz around Tarkov lately but I never followed through to see what it was about. Awesome to have your recap and measured analisis of it all!

[@MrSkuddawg]

Yeah if I bought a game for $150 and was told everything that comes out in the future would be included, and then was told stuff is coming out and I needed to pay another 100 bucks to access the content I was promised, I'd be pretty fucking pissed....Wait, I did, and am, and haven't touched the fucking game since, which sucks because I absolutely love the game, but at this point my reaction to the future of the game... Ivan Drago - If he dies, he dies

[@nelAjamZ]

U wasted 150 dollars for multiplayer free to play type game... U deserve wasted 250 dollars by developers lol

[@les121476]

@@nelAjamZI wouldn’t say wasted. I spent 150 on it in 2017. I have over 10k hours played. So I’m good with upgrading to the uninstalled edition. I finally escaped from tarkov.

[@MissBiancaBee]

"Let the gamers be gamers!" o7

[@chefrowlet]

A coworker pressured me into buying Tarkov way back in 2019. Thought the mechanics were amazing but wasn't a fan of the extraction shooter format....... And thank goodness I didn't get sucked in only to be let down by the devs like this

[@jeremynapier5995]

I own EOD and I’m so disappointed, there response made me actually angry, especially since they said you can upgrade to the biggest and best edition for a extra 100$( I ALREADY PAID A EXTRA 100$ FOR EOD!!!)

[@Rick586]

Meanwhile Ghost Ship Games keeps releasing massive free updates for Deep Rock Galactic and the only DLC's are purely cosmetic.

[@FellaGuy2]

Tarkov has always looked like one of those games that looks cool until I find out more about it and then I'm just not interested anymore.

[@jakesouth]

Can't wait to see more funhaus alumni. Makes me happy.

[@macguy34]

Freaking love it. Bruce, dude I'm right there with you in the nikkita struggle. Just like one screw up to the next. Greyzone warfare vid with the IG cast??

[@KlemyKlemz]

Got to be one of the worst PR moments in the history of gaming. All this on top of two major competitors releasing their games in the next couple of weeks. It really did feel like they just didn’t want us to play anymore.

[@matsumbra4984]

BSG is now BatlleScamGames

[@Profanus81]

It was bad state games before

[@bleekersburg]

Support for jugs and gamers, we love to see it.

[@cadia9882]

I have a coworker who also plays tarkov, and he said he bought it day one because he's a big fan, I just have no clue how he even can afford that given we dont even make a ton of money

[@kendawson8268]

Don't know how I slept on this channel. love the seeing the old crew back at it.

[@timgoewey9192]

Every time we get to see Charlotte my bones bleach just a little bit brighter in the sand

[@builtbywalsh]

There are so many ways you could have chosen to say this that don’t involve bleach, bones, or sand. 😂

[@as95ms98]

​@@builtbywalshThey're referencing Charlotte's previous podcast "Ship Hits the Fan" where the podcast sign-off at the end of each episode was "May your bones bleach in the sand."

[@rays5163]

lucky for us, she has all this free time now so maybe we get to see more of her

[@Glitchwick]

10:40 thank you for explaining why I refuse to play OW2. I played OW1 since beta...

[@jonaseriksson3782]

Can these controversies be used as a marketing strategy? Game does blatant Pay-2-Win and backtracks on previous promises -> Massive backlash and huge media attention -> They fix it, put out an apology and now they have twice the audience along with KZbinrs following up with videos like "Is it FIXED?" or "Tarkov in 2025" where "Tarkov" has now become a buzzword.. Not saying this is the case of course, but are we as a community as quick to anger as we are to forgetting, that developers can cash in on free marketing?

[@socksleeve]

Charlotte!

[@chiseledmedal2634]

I have played the game, but modded, you can play pve only with friends with a modded client, you need to own the game to run the client but that means you don't have to pay 250 for a game

[@clotz1820]

its 330 dollars, 250 doesnt include tax which every game does in their price, not sure why tarkov doesnt? probably to hide already ridiculous price.

[@jeezy0025]

So everyone is aware Gray Zone Warfare also has pay-to-win features in their higher editions with larger locker, ect, ect.

[@Rcb4th]

Really wanted it to be good, Tarkov was so fun when I first started playing. But the cheaters really killed the fun. Now, I have no reason to ever touch it again. That’s really sad.

[@darter9000]

…how many people paid $150 for a single game that they would worry about overloading any kind of servers in a new mode…?

[@sixvee5147]

DO NOY BUY!!!!

[@TmYoungn]

Nah we not covering for them. if you bought the EOD edition of the game it added co-op offline at some point at the end of last year. It wasnt on any other edition to play offline co-op with a friend unless they had the EOD edition of the game. There is nothing they can say to cover that fact an with this new edition they pulled offline co-op for EOD to add it for a price.

[@GetOnMyHypeJP]

"Come on, what are we doin, this is a bridge too far, we can't be doin this" made me laugh so hard my family came and checked on me.

[@Nerm176]

Anyone else having to constantly block those “AFK Journey” ads?! I’ve blocked like 20 of em

[@TriopsTrilobite]

6:46 in light of the recent news, this was so damn funny😂 keep your head up charlotte

[@aska221]

10:00 BSG doesn't have a single person playing their own game, so they are constantly out of the loop with the community and how the game feels to play (probably a lot of game devs have this issue). There is so many EASY things that BSG could implement in the game that would make the community love the devs. And there are LOTS of monetization they could implement that the community would be fine with. But they are just so out of touch with their game, and their community.

[@zerocool.666]

Been having a lot of fun with gray zone never played tarkov but I had 4 friends give up on it and told me about gray zone, it’s fun, yes it has bugs but the game has alot of potential

[@Ludens93]

Uhhh pay to win should totally be illegal. Nobody should be paying that much just for a PvE.

[@vexmyth0clast]

To those wondering SPT is free if you own the game, is constantly updated, has a bunch of mods and is actually fun solo and with friends. Far more enjoyable that dealing with cheaters and all of BSG’s bs.

[@gm5229]

You figure out a way to play SPT with friends?!

[@lemonchicken41]

​@@gm5229 Google it and you can find discord servers/websites.

[@les121476]

Until you get your account banned and lose all access to everything

[@rayellis9391]

I don't understand how they misunderstood what DLC is. DLC = downloadable content. They are adding content that's downloadable...

[@JellyoooDonut3]

I've been thinking of switching to either Grey zone , or Scum

[@AbsoluteKhan.]

They must be the stupidest if they think anyone that bought EOD, will buy this....

[@ZeusTheIrritable]

When I first heard of this, I had to see if the game was published by Ubisoft.

[@stefanejegod8644]

"BEST" thing about this whole thing is probably that the PvE mode is purely handled online, so in this mode that is just you vs. AI bots etc. would still be ultimately killed off, the day they decide they'll have to shut down the servers... Ah yes, that sounds like something I would love to pay more than 4 times the price of a "regular" AAA title. Or so we just call it a AAAAAAAAAA gamemode?

[@RufioGamerPlays]

guys you forget about taxes, the real price can reach up to 320 euros, depending on where you are located👍

[@MrScooter1021]

Machinima. Rooster Teeth. Corporations come and go. Bruce’s legendary shirt persists.

[@NGEvangeliman]

150 bucks is about all I ever want to spend on a live service game... ever. like ever, and they want 250 bucks for the game to be updated? I thought the game was just unfinished, and all the new content was just them completing the game?

[@slimpickins6007]

250 dollars is wild as hell

[@kelerews]

250 dollars? That is insane 😂 That's 100 dollars more than minimum wage in my country... That's 50 dollars shy of 2 minimum wages... Insanity

[@Kikkomantm]

dudes thinking women with abs is gay is okay, more for me

[@dukiino739]

No way, the developers who were so stuck up they dont wana put their game on steam decide to fuck over the fans? couldnt see this one coming

[@damiensadventure]

Heck yeah it's Charlotte! ❤

[@JellyoooDonut3]

Grey zone looked pretty sweet . Also I've been looking at scum . And it's pretty close to tarkov

[@Skelahton]

They have no intention of delivering a finished product. You know they're just going to string along outsourced work for years until they decide to abandon the project. Vote with your wallet.

[@alijahmurrell4681]

Bruce how has that shirt survived for so long?

[@metalplaysgames]

The argument that they don't understand what DLC is would have been a valid argument in 2008

[@popot.2847]

Try Stalker Anomaly/Gamma

[@vortexmdk6776]

They could have pushed it out for $10 and cleaned up… why sell 10 copies at $250 over a few hundred thousand $10 buys. No business sense at all. Even the EOD players would buy into it, give them all a free skin or boost as part of their edition

[@beardedbokeh]

EOD was $150 and to upgrade was $100, then $50, not $250…..

[@nick32145]

Who knew BSG was all we needed to escape from Tarkov

[@TetherOnline]

I was just getting into learning Escape From Tarkov when I read about this, so I'll be uninstalling it. If anyone is looking for a similar game beyond Grey Zone I would recommend Marauders. Its not exactly the same but its super fun and needs more attention cause its in space.

[@derpgeez]

Zero sievert is fun 😊

[@R2B2YT]

I played EFT a bunch in 2020-21....they made changes back then and the game just wasnt fun anymore....I realized back then, this game was never going to be finished and they were just getting $ off people. Game is never going to be released.

[@JoseVRKaiju]

Man just found the channel and hearing this voices with gaming news is a bless.

[@bartman64]

Here’s some short-segment funny gamer news, for the slow news days. Apparently the Pokémon Go avatars all look like they got cheap plastic surgery. They added character customization, but all the faces have the goofiest duck lips

[@biogopher]

I feel like the only justification would be to call it a whole new game but wtf is a $250 campaign heavy game that needs server access?

[@nelAjamZ]

It's a Pc thing.

[@DeathOnaTrikie]

If I have to pay for it, then it's DLC smh...

[@PsionicB]

A step by step way to destroy all good will in your community, great job Tarkov devs. 💀

[@SitKid721]

I always did

[@UnderpaidJam]

Thank you all for another great vid!

[@Sassssky]

I dont know much about tarkov but most people complaining already seem to own the 150 buck version? Why do they think a 250 buck version would work? The 150 one did lmao.

[@lemonchicken41]

It's a live-service game but they've been selling it like it isn't. Customers can recognize value for money (thus the large portion of players who have EoD), but the new edition clearly reduced the value of previous purchases. Customers are going to rebel when you ask them to pay for something they've been told they already paid for.

[@TheRealPat316]

And I'm sure that by civil discourse, you're talking about the folks putting 20 and 30k bounties on Grummz and possibly Asmongold.

[@catzilla8104]

I remember good old times of Inside Gaming, without any weirdos

[@Crispman_777]

Unheared edition? What is this? Victoria Beckham's solo album?

[@MadScientistGuild]

Aye! I missed you boys lol

[@jinhyeongkim8205]

nice shirt, 로렌스 손태그

[@fanboykiller11]

Video lacks proper research before being made to avoid multiple inconsistencies and wrong info other than that good and entertaining video

[@nelAjamZ]

People buy it anyway.

[@andrewsmith1204]

Glad the game got more expensive somehow. Made the decision to not get it easy!

[@nickkowal619]

More like the unplayed edition....amiright?

[@AnzelmK]

Holy shit Charlotte is alive! I thought she died along the rest of Funhouse crew when WB detonated explosives in their craniums. I guess she had to remove hers.

[@matthewjohnson8217]

Love these thank you guys!!

[@echosartplanet2210]

If you pay them that amount of money, your the reason game companies raise prices on games not being reasonable. Vote with your wallet

[@DummyThinksThoughts]

No , we love tarkov , we mad at BSG . And when the fresh wipe happens everyone will be playing again

[@AD3SPG]

I cant say anything really because ive never played it or payed for it ive seen a few mins of gameplay but hey whatever.

[@Bliff86]

oh man this is so scuffed and that comment about woman not in the game is unreal

[@MeowNMH]

I love seeing Charlotte here! They were great on that other gaming news channel a few years ago. I'm glad to see IG scooping up such great talent! Go Owls ']['

[@Top_Weeb]

In regards to Stellar Blade, I don't even have a PlayStation, I just really hate censorship.

[@thenub22]

Moms home slaps!!!!

[@RacerRookie]

I checked and its all false information, its only $10 or less for PVE.

[@donaldherko5348]

Wonder if the Russian bot farm will come to their defense? Probably, just look at the inevitable comments under this.

[@MrLittleJa]

Go get lab dance for $250

[@MisterNutty]

Not that it changes much of the reporting or the merit of this story, but the reported prices weren't quite right. EOD was $140 and they offered upgrading to Unheard for the difference. All the complaints are still valid no matter the price.

[@JamesBrown-xb7yi]

I absolutely love tarkov such a shame has such scummy developers