Everyone hates the OSCP, but they still want it...

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[@TylerRamsbey]

I passed the OSCP on my first attempt, after purchasing the 90 day lab time -- but I trash it every chance I get (come at me Offsec). I passed it in 8 hours because I used the superior training from HTB Academy and TCM Security to pass it. It's silly that I paid $1,600 but had to use outside resources to pass the exam. I didn't go for their bonus points, I didn't use their material -- and I pwned their exam

[@dryaserdryaser]

100% true. i am just about finished with my degree from wgu and i’m gonna take the cpts and pnpt for the real training and take the oscp for breaking into the field.

[@foadchode]

This. I get why most OSCP holders don't bash their own cert, considering how expensive it is and how hard it is to prepare for after all. But looking around for help on it pretty much anywhere shows that the PWK isn't enough to pass, and that external training, whether paid or free, is a NEED.

[@jsmith85151]

I paid for the OSCP and was so disgusted with the materials provided that I walked away and moved on to TCM and HTB's offerings. The CPTS is FAR superior to the OSCP because it offers EVERYTHING the OSCP does and more. And it costs less than a third of the OSCP. Also, OffSec is very quick to revoke certifications. I think overall the company is headed into the toilet based on the fact that they just laid a bunch of people off. CPTS is also now being mentioned on job descriptions, so there's that as well.

[@tadii]

i've never heard of Offsec revoking anyone cert 🤔

[@Strive117]

Never taken OSCP, never even studied for it. But if you can't pass an exam with just the material that is provided for $1600 is wildddddddddd. Someone at offsec is cooked

[@tadii]

😂😂😂

[@n1cfury]

Hot take: I've learned more from failing OSCP, than I have passing any other exam.

[@lakshyadutt5206]

I got my PNPT 6 months ago and I just got my OSCP 15 days ago so I feel like its rights for me to compare them a little bit right now. PNPT does not cover what OSCP covers, PEN-200 is a bit broad than PNPT. PNPT focuses primarily on AD and the other one focuses on a lot more things other than just AD. I mean the exam is 60% AD but still the things I learned in OSCP was very very valuable for me, maybe its just a subjective thing but still I personally felt like OSCP did teach me the offensive mindset of tackling things. To each their own, but still I would never say that OSCP is trash, the opinion of saying that is trash imo XD.

[@cyberlocc]

I feel the exact same way. I really dont know what all these "PNPT is better and more deep/broad" people are smoking. The Pen200 covers WAY MORE content than all of TCMs stuff.

[@ultravioletiris6241]

Once i can afford it i would LOVE to take the OSCP. I’m actually excited to take their web ones too. But I’m for sure starting with the PNPT and from what I’ve heard they are both great. Anyone have any thoughts about the eJPT?

[@tadii]

True, do all the certs. Fanboying won't get you knowledge you need

[@lakshyadutt5206]

@@ultravioletiris6241 eJPT is a bit more short and precise cert to get your hands wet with the basic junior level hacking methodology. eJPT was my first cert, it was really easy tbh. I hope this is not a subjective thing because the cert was really really easy to get if you just covered what they taught in the modules. The networking modules that they taught were really nice for beginner fundamentals. If you have the money, its a good certification to get your hands wet if you are solid on spending for a certification. It does not have much HR credibility and stuff but apart from that its a fine junior level cert.

[@TaelurAlexis]

That's great to here, I just passed the PNPT in February and preparing to buy the OSCP next month lol

[@Kroxie]

Honestly as someone who has the ejpt, pnpt and ecppt, I would love to try my hand at the OSCP. The only thing that scares me from taking it is the extremely high cost with high rate of failure from what I've read.

[@tadii]

if you put the work in, it'll work out lol

[@GrahamHelton]

To be fair, I am not very articulate in person 😅

[@somebody3014]

hehe :)

[@tadii]

trying to be humble? 😂

[@noone-ld7pt]

In my opinion there are two major problems with the OSCP right now: 1. It is pricing itself out of most normal peoples range 2. They are not allowing the use of generative AI It is still the industry standard, but I personally think that will change pretty quickly if people stop paying for it and they refuse to adapt to the tools of the future.

[@anputhegod246]

People want it is because in the states is most have for HR purposes. The reason people hate the certification because it does not align with todays technology. I like the cert but it's in major demand. This was conversation with the offsec team a while back.

[@tadii]

Did they not push an update for 2023?

[@martinlastname8548]

The OSCP training material is seriously lacking for the cost

[@AviPatilCA]

Good question. But even if it was a free as Richard Feynman said: "Knowledge isn't free. You have to pay attention."

[@Zen_Monkey]

Thanks for the shout out on my OSCP vs PNPT article 🤙

[@--Morpheus--]

Because if you spend more than 1000 on something and you regret it, maybe you are probably not going to admit it. Cause you dont want to compromise future opportunities on something you and others are supposed to find valuable. That said Im still planning on studying for it. I think people want free samples so they can see if material or tools are the real deal rather than falling once again for marketing hype.

[@tadii]

Good luck with the course whenever you get it!

[@lucmarrouche71]

I am currently enrolled in the oscp, opted for the one learner option and I have no regrets, it’s valuable and I have no problem paying for it whether I pass it or not

[@shivdilip]

You are definitely going to pass it. All the best... 👍

[@abhishek_k7]

not everyone wants shit for free. offsec should at least look into PPP options globally or provide some discount if someone is taking it as an individual as opposed to enterprises/organizations paying for their employees. or make it an enterprise only option and then charge whatever they want. breaking into security field is hard without OSCP since thats all recruiters/HR know. and another thing is they dont provide any feedback on failure

[@cyberlocc]

Good Video "Why do people hate the OSCP" 1. It costs money, alot of money. 2. They failed the OSCP. 3. TCM built there brand on bashing the OSCP, and thus their fans now live to bash the OSCP. 4. Because for any of the above reasons, they cant get it, dont want to, or whatever the case may be. They feel the issues this causes for breaking into the Industry and therefor get even angrier. Oh and Joe Helle does in fact have his OSCP. They built their brand off trashing Offsec, and they continue to do so daily, nothing more.

[@marlinshanklin-ww7em]

The complaints sound childish people with 4 year degrees don't complain about classes that they find irrelevant.

[@tadii]

lol fair. i used to complain about all my classes

[@marlinshanklin-ww7em]

You paid your tuition and got your degree.

[@byrospyro4432]

Lets be honest though, you can spend around £200-300 and get the CPTS which is more comprehensive. The only downside is the recognition you get from OSCP

[@tadii]

if you spend a total of $2000 for both CPTS and OSCP you'll have both the comprehensive knowledge and the recognition. Good investment if you ask me🤷🏾‍♂️

[@skaus2184]

Everyone knows the C|EH is the most prestigious hacking certification on the market today.

[@benyicl92]

Are u dump?

[@elilanz]

😂 you must be from India

[@skaus2184]

@@elilanz Sir, what gives you that impression?

[@elilanz]

@@skaus2184 it's only in India where CEH is mostly preferred

[@skaus2184]

@@elilanz I didn't know that. I thought the American government had a thing for it too?