Why Cybersecurity Training is a SCAM

[@leeme007]

summary of this video: First learn Network before learning Cyber Security if you want to be successful.

[@oblivion7300]

Right because he sounds like he’s saying they aren’t teaching correctly. Not that you can’t make the money

[@leeme007]

@@oblivion7300 you're right. The title of the video is kind of misleading

[@nittani.]

Experienced this first hand.

[@zomgoose]

AD, Linux, SQL, Entra, AWS. scripting, etc. It helps to be well-rounded, unless a tech only wants to be a network security specialist.

[@ren3059]

cyber is a not entry-level job imho

[@tonberryhugs6435]

This man is absolutely right. Ive been in the field for almost 14 years, Masters, CISM, CISSP, CEH....Getting 1 cert just to get an instant $120K job does not happen 90% of the time. Trainers are making a living, remember that. If you pass or fail, they got paid. I'm a huge believer in self-study.

[@FloridaInvestor]

What self study resources can you share?

[@brownsense1]

I'm self studying. Going for RHCSA and then will go for RHCE afterwards

[@domp6029]

Where should I start? Congratulations on your accomplishments.

[@wasdq9748]

No doubt. Your credentials are impressive tho. I have a cybersec degree and several certs, but I've never tried to get a job, it was just a backup plan as I already had a good job somewhat in the field. But this dude nails it, the depth of cybsecurity and protocols are some amazingly vast its impossible to learn it all in these little courses. But you have a magic key, CISM, CISSP these certs are a true six figure credentials, just because it says this person not only knows some depth but has expierence to obtain this cert. I've studied for it, the material dosent look difficult but the expierence is what sets people apart to be truly certified. People really need to listen to this man(and this guy, above me) , they can save you heartache and years of frustration. Im lucky and work at a nice place, they are a fortune 500 and have dedicated cyber and programmers and so forth...you can't even get a job there without a degree. They don't even post options for this. People would be so frustrated getting a sec plus and applying their life away.

[@wasdq9748]

​​@@FloridaInvestor to be honest it depends on your skill level, like the guy in the video said. What's the goal and what's your honest knowledge level so far? If it's not above a+ start there. I like books and videos combined. Udemy is perfect for this. If it is, I have Net+ but I like CCNA better but both are fine. Personally the books are far more difficult than the test for these. There's so much knowledge in them. Reading either one will teach you so much, you will be amazed and it will open your eyes to the depth of IT. Even if you don't like books, get it and skim it while following a video series, it has far more knowledge in the books. If you're above this level. Let me know I can keep going.

[@damonaniton]

"You cant secure what you dont understand" When I tell people that they call me a gatekeeper.

[@ngushashaguy5102]

Foundation is key

[@Etherall_]

They either think you a gatekeeper, or think that you are filled with scorn.

[@damonaniton]

@@Etherall_ i have been called a gatekeeper so much i am going to get a tatoo

[@lasagna3084]

That makes sense. 👍🏻

[@ren3059]

what he's telling is true no one wants to hire people in cybersecurity without fundamental knowledge 1:26 hits hard

[@BrianThomas]

Pay attention. I've been in the business for over 20 years. This man is speaking the truth.

[@DutchPyro2011]

I started with simple website development & VBS scripting over 15 years ago as a 10 year old & still learning every single day 🙃

[@Greasy__]

Then you’d know that an a+ course is something that most 16yos with a computer know about and he’s trying to scare people away from learning network+ for free on KZbin by making them pay for an a+ course they can already find for free.

[@DutchPyro2011]

​@@Greasy__ The point of the video isn't necessarily that (free) courses are useless. But that there is not an all in one course.

[@tyrellwreleck4226]

I keep telling people who encourages cybersecurity that they are wasting people's time. Most hosting services are secured. Just do jobs that makes money, not get money by sucking company's hardwork on making money.

[@hamos7415]

16yr? Bro​@@Greasy__

[@MrBoydgo]

I totally agree. Once, I made a comment on another KZbin cyber content creator's video where I mentioned that starting with the CompTIA trifecta (A+, Network+, and Security+) is a good idea rather than jumping straight to the Security+ exam. This way, people build a strong foundation, even if they are just learning the material. Needless to say, that idea was not well-received. In their view, A+ and Network+ content was a waste of time. The point is, if you lack the fundamentals, it's unlikely that you will be able to actually secure anything.

[@Vee_Vaa]

I have a question. I have completed a Google Cybersecurity certification and now I am planning to take Comptia Network+ and then take Security plus. So is it a good Idea to skip the A+?

[@JustinJ.]

​@@Vee_Vaa get the A+, it is the perfect foundation and plays a big role in CyberSec, it will help you better understand what you are working with and how all the nuts and bolts fit together, the A+ is played down quite a bit on the internet by "influencers" but they also take for granted how much a person actually knows. I did my A+ back in the day when the MCSE was the golden ticket, suffice to say, the A+ of today is WAY different to what it was in 2005. I've been in CyberSec for close to 15 years now and have been on the hiring end of the table interviewing candidates and the amount of people i've interviewed over the years that lack basic knowledge but have all the "fancy" certs that they obtained in a 12 month period, will astound you. Everyone entering this career needs to get it out of their heads that there is no fast track to the top, you are working with people who have been doing this far longer than you have and you need to earn your stripes to get ahead.

[@SilasTheSilent]

​@Vee_Vaa I'd get it to fill out the basics.

[@saby7825]

Would you recommend getting those 3 if you had them previously but they expired?

[@MrBoydgo]

@@saby7825 It really depends on your current career goals and how recently you acquired those certifications. If they've expired, it might be beneficial to update your knowledge and skills by retaking the exams or pursuing more advanced certifications in those areas. Renewing those certifications could boost your career prospects since they are widely recognized in the IT industry.

[@orosalsero]

I'm retired now, I worked as a Network Engineer, than I worked for the Defense Information Security Agency (DISA), working to secure Unix based military computer systems, you would not believe the number of attempted intrusion on a daily bases at the Pentagon and other military installations, trying to convince admins to lock-up certain ports, filter IP address, or reconfigure Cisco routers for security reasons was a nightmare, 100K doesn't cover the amount of stress, from all the travel involved or not seeing your family but one week a month. One time I was gone 2 months straight that's a whole story in it's self.

[@ReptilianXHologram]

That’s what I want to do when I get out of the military(currently in Army). Either that or become a contractor

[@Real-Name..Maqavoy]

As someone with a cousin from *Cisco* (worked in 90s to 200ps) and from a Military fam. Doesnt suprise me in the slightest. Most ppl don't know how to Reverse IP or even check IPs nowadays and solely rely on *VPN* (which never made ya safe to begin with) *Internet* wasn't made to be safe. and as a matter of facts - In the early creation of it in 80s to 90s - The military wanted total monopoly on it; had it not been for *Tim berners Lee* It likely would've been a lot more locked down.

[@skyone9237]

Network jobs are full of stress and underpaid

[@Aman-io9ql]

@@skyone9237 i never heard that network jobs are underpaid .

[@WARLORD_JOE]

Does everyone use Cisco switches? Just funny my corporation does. Only the 8 or 24 port switches. I’m not even in America haha!

[@lilhunt25]

great insight i been in this 8 yrs & still learning - no way u can learn it all in 6 wks or even 6 months - start at A+ & work up thru certs & training - these bootcamps are all marketing & money grabs

[@michaelallen5766]

A+ I’d argue is not necessary unless you want to build PCs.

[@fahads6124]

@@michaelallen5766yes right and having A+ knowledge via self studying is enough rather getting A+ certification

[@TysonRucker-je4kd]

Hey, thank you for your insight, would you say that after completing and understanding a network + and A+ course that a university bootcamp offering certification in CompTIA Security+ and 30 mini projects in 6 months is worth $ 13k or no? Thanks for your time.

[@whenhen]

@@michaelallen5766 I found A+ extremely useful when starting out my IT career as it gave a broad overview of a lot of the systems we use. That being said, it's far too light on common enterprise stuff, but I think it's a great way to get a broad introduction to a lot of topics.

[@whenhen]

@@TysonRucker-je4kd You can get all of that training for free or close to it (Udemy classes go on sale for $11-13 USD all the time). Then you can schedule the exam. Taking a full boot camp class is a complete waste of money .

[@oozey262]

I have been studying cybersecurity through google, and i can tell you this, google touches on the basics of all the subjects you mentioned except the hardware part. However, i am fortunate enough to know the basics of computer hardware. I've assembled and dissembled motherboards, CPU, graphics card, RAM, internal HDD, internal SSD, power supply, water cooling system, and electric circuits that were not functioning properly. I know what to protect i just dont know how yet, and that's what i am learning now. Also, people can learn on the job. Practical skills are better than multiple choices exam. You can study, have degrees, and all. But all that goes out the window, the minute you graduate.

[@MrBoydgo]

I agree! Graduation day isn’t the end. As cybersecurity expert Bruce Schneier puts it, 'cybersecurity is a journey, not a destination.'

[@johndoe1274]

I assume they don't touch hardware because its implied that you have physical security at the site you work, so hardware tampering and things like BIOS flashing or whatever are often not the most common threats (but when they happen, its really bad).

[@StarOasis26]

I am experienced as you are, just about the same. how do you get certified? I would like a job in cyber security

[@A_Priori_Obvious]

Thanks for this video. I’m currently enrolled in a program. They have us learning A+, Azure, Ai, Linux, Net+, and Sec+. I like it because it shows me the basics. Haven’t passed a cert yet but I will. My dream is to be a network architect. I’m 46. Send positive vibes my way, please. I really want this. If anyone knows of more that I could be doing, please tell me. Thanks guys.

[@ekowlloyd]

that's pretty awesome...my advice to you would be to specialise, it's nice that you're learning all this stuff, no knowledge is useless, however I have to realise that every field is so deep that becoming an expert in one, say Azure, will take you a long way than trying to know a bit of everything. Cyber security in essence is a combination of all the knowledge that you have about computing and technology and applying it. All the best in achieving your dreams...You GOT this!!

[@A_Priori_Obvious]

@@ekowlloyd 🙏🏾 Thank you so much

[@Iron-Bridge]

Good luck 👍. @Lloyd is correct. At some point you will want to specialise after covering your foundation. You can always keep an eye on the IT job postings with special attention to the desired skill sets. Also keep up to date with industry information about specific areas of cyber security are in great demand. In demand skills make you more valuable.

[@HadesSyntax5049]

I’m about to turn 45 next week and left my 9-5 to study for A+. It’s kinda scary to be honest, but I’m so excited to start this new path as well

[@A_Priori_Obvious]

@@HadesSyntax5049 You can do it. I had to let go of the distractions and commit fully. You got this. Plus, there’s nothing that you cannot learn from the internet and KZbin. Both have been “saviors” for me. You got this and don’t doubt yourself. Believe because no one else will if you don’t.

[@RS-nc5qx]

This guy is the real deal right here. Probably the only guy talking Cybersecurity as it should be.

[@tanyinelsonnkwa5018]

You're definitely right Sir, my kid bro is an IT Engineer and I'd studied Electrical wiring as well but i wanted to engage on IT, so i called my kid bro and he told me to start with Comptia A+ [core 1&2] and that was what i did. i had to start from the basic hoping to get the necessary knowledge require to kick start my career on IT

[@musikhippie4030]

As someone who just graduated with their bachelors in IT I am so glad to have found a channel that admits those trainings, and bootcamps are lying to you. I want to get into cybersec and I still have so much to learn to become an expert. You earned my subscription by just being straight up about getting into the field but not being negative about it.

[@bmalin]

Same here and I paid for two bootcamps. Out of 165 students total that went through them....5 got hired and 1 got an internship. You can learn lots, but it's more than that and what I have come to the conclusion is that these camps...what they really do is provide platforms. I couldn't pay all the license fees to use S1, C'strike, Splunk, P'point, etc. They also create a structured curriculum that people can follow. Now, the ROI, well it's diminishing quickly cause people like me aren't even getting interviews.

[@petediamonds3950]

You are telling the truth... I started with one of those Google and IBM courses and I stopped along the way because I couldn't understand anything as the course progressed. I later joined an IT firm as an entry-level IT support and learnt hands-on experience with networking and hardware and all that... Now I'm ready to go through the basics and get things right... I guess I will learn from here... Thanks sir

[@GoodByeSkyHarborLive]

what was the hands on experience with networking and hardware? if you didn't want to did you have to do that and could just stick to handling tickets through the computer?

[@hollowaymiles]

Thanks, I have been in IT for 15yrs and Cyber Security 8yrs. IT TAKES ALOT of work and experience to get to that level. Getting hire is the hard part. I thought I was the only person who notice this. Thanks for setting the record straight.

[@bryan63150]

Like to learn from u

[@devohnmitchell]

Thanks for the Video.. I'm not in CyberSecurity but I know basic Security Concepts.but I am Now Learning DevOps but I started first with the Basics of Networking by getting my CCNA, Comptia Network+, A+, etc. which took some years.. then I spent 2 years learning coding Python, JS, HTML. You are right this Stuff Takes Time. Even with all of that there's Still So Much I don't know.. I need som Microsoft Certs.. CyberSecurity aint No Joke, Devops aint no Joke, System Administration aint No Joke.. Cloud Engineering Aint no Joke

[@n1cfury]

I've learned more by failing OSCP than any of the certs I've passed....and after about 8 years of infosec following over 20 years of IT, there's still so much more to learn.

[@SALTINBANK]

all of us mate you are right is is a life learning experience to be a good hacker

[@danomaly8943]

We never stop learning which is why I love IT.

[@tacklefx]

@@danomaly8943 Well it just gets easier as you learn progressively. hat youre doing is stack up layers of foundation. in truth it gets easier as you progress because what you see requires applying what you already know

[@charlotte-fi9xy]

I can honestly say I have learned vastly more from every failure than any success. complacency can follows success if you have an attitude of entitlement or are reaching too far over your skis ad faking it...

[@SALTINBANK]

@@charlotte-fi9xy of course charlotte you are en lightning you gave us light

[@yungabenenwiefontechoro7087]

You nailed it Sir. I have been a victim of this. I started them I quickly realized i doesn’t work like that. I didn’t understand the language. So I had to go back to the basics, google cybersecurity professional course then I took your security plus course and question. I had my security plus , I’m still on that journey, progressing

[@bryan63150]

If I want to start learning cyber security...where will I start from?..which topics are the basics?

[@MichaelCook-oo8lj]

Solid advice. Every day on reddit I see people saying they have no IT experience and they're gonna go get the Security+. Sure, good luck investing all that time to pass an exam on a subject you have no real understanding of, but you're gonna be real disappointed when no one hires you after.

[@kenharryonline]

You're very right Sir. I am currency a Cyber Security Specialist and I can also testify for a fact that I have evolved from various fields of study/experience to where I am now. I studied Information Technology in India (Chitkara University, Chandigarh, Punjab), also with courses/certifications CCNA, MCITP, OCA/OCP and RHCE (ReHat) alongside my course and got those certifications but that wasn't all. I have been working with an IT company for over 12 years now. With all these wealth of knowledge from school, I have worked as a web developer for 1 year and 6 months (frontend to backend) to a network administrator for about 2 years, to an Active Directory Server administrator (both on Windows and Linux platforms), DevOps Engineer, Linux server configuration (automations with shell scripts and lots more) for over 4 years and now I do almost all of these things at once to still achieve success in my role as a Cyber Security Specialist for over 3 years and counting. Not even talking about all the various training/certifications I have done within these 12 years of working experience and I am still in a continuous process of development with new challenges everyday, even with over 15 years of IT experience in general.

[@fakharjehan-r2b]

after reading the whole thesis. i couldnt bring anything home form this. the fact remained hidded that how less did you earn in cyber security?was there a trouble in finding jobs?was the market not good?what was the salary offer range?

[@ThePulsinater]

You need to learn how to spell dude like wth.

[@paultega2101]

Thank you, Uncle Andrew Ramdayal. I am from Nigeria and have over a decade of experience in IT Administration and Training. I paid for your course today, after you reaffirmed and explained the pathway that I often tell my statement and everyone who cares to know; which is, you have to build from the ground up. In the field, I have seen that many people know CISCO but don't know networking and those are two distinct things. You rightly mentioned the cause which is that Institutes are more interested in selling the courses. Thank you, Sir. See you in class, Sir. Namaste, Sir.

[@abolanlemakinwa5930]

Hi bro. How much is the cost of this class

[@DrDreadz]

i self-studied Sec+ FIRST, then took Net+, took A+ after, Failed Pentest, but passed Cysa+ and recently passed Casp, all in the space of TWO yrs, Self-studied, NOT difficult...........lots of material on KZbin

[@belakhdaryoucef2668]

Just starting the journey (18 yrs old) any advices ?

[@phillipsommer8946]

@@belakhdaryoucef2668 work on getting your certifications, A+, Net+, and Sec+. You can find a lot of material here on KZbin. Get an IT help desk job to get you experience and exposure to a wide range of issues.

[@klauserwin9860]

@@belakhdaryoucef2668 Like many others said: You MUST have a foundational level. So start with CompTIA A+, then CompTIA Network+ and then get CompTIA Security+. This is the Trifecta. After that you can specialize on CCNA and then CCNP for example. But do NOT skip the basics.

[@cameronbartkey9935]

@@belakhdaryoucef2668 I am a Senior security analysts and here are my recommendations. A+ then start to look for a help desk job then Network+ or CCNA then Sec+. At that point you should have a year or 2 in help desk and should revaluate your next steps. Giving you a large list of certs and degrees is dumb get this basic foundation in now and see where you land. Also your young so stay out of debt, save a little for retirement check out the money guy out here on youtube, don't get pregnant or anyone pregnant, and going to a community college now to get your associates in IT is a good thing for the experience, being young, and having a social life.

[@davidb9323]

What material is most legit? Cyber Mentor ?

[@oludave]

Superb perspective. I have 12 years experience in networking and now foraging into Cybersecurity. And you are right on pint. Many people want to jump on the bandwagon and soon get lost when the jungle matures. Build the foundation. Build!

[@pedalist49]

I 100% agree. I took two seperate courses and they both take your money and leave you high and dry after you're finished. Avoid all Cyber Security courses and just go straight to school for computer science or study and keep your hands and head in the PC world as much as you could.

[@norbertt.t6444]

Thank you - That is the reason i went for my CCNA , ccnp r/s and now i am doing ccnp security before branching to Cyber security after 8 years of Experience in IT networking i always find odd why so many are saying you can get certify in 3 month - it is taking me a year to complete my ccnp because i am doing Labs on every topic .

[@haibaidzokwomandre1468]

I don't have IT background but I have always known that one need to know how network, OS works, including the hardware. Just like someone in web development must know how the client communicates with the server whether you are frontend or backend reason why It took me more time than others to learn web dev and still learning why also learning OS and network fundamentals. I am 31 with no job and my aim is cyber security but I know it will take me many years that is why I am into web dev I also love it. Self taught , maybe I will go back to school for a degree some time in the future.

[@GoonCity777]

I’d recommend getting your CDL license just in case.

[@AlanCain_Caintech]

I am a CISO and I agree with you 100%. I have interviewed many people and they have just passed the exam but not learnt the material and they can not explain how to secure a basic SOHO network.

[@BrianMawisa]

So which qualifications should be done before embarking on a cybersecurity course?

[@klick4click]

Absolutely right! It's happening not only in cyberfield interviews , all fields young gen kids are grabbing their opportunity and gaining salaries such fields like as better has true core seniors knowledge.

[@Kavbutchr]

Hello Alan, I am currently taking a course on Networking along side an Ethical Hacking course. I want to know if you can link me with any remote internship program or any entry level job or anything so I can have some experience on my resume. The experience section on my resumé is pretty empty at the moment, and I don't think anybody wants to hire a person without any experience. I would really appreciate a response. Thanks very much.

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

University of Maryland University College - cybersecurity program: I was told "don't bother with that university program" but did it anyway. The first course in the actual subject matter was a "introduction to networks" class. It cost $700 or $800 and the materials consisted of a net+ "crash course" book with access to the publisher's online videos. In spite of what the course was advertised as, a lecture with lab, there was NO lecture - only the lab. And the lab was only the contents of the Net+ program we bought, there was no instructor involved at all. And you weren't allowed to work ahead in the content, you had to do everything the week it was due. But wait, there's more! If you already had a Net+ cert they could give you credit for that class...so the school was charging people nearly $1000 to babysit them as a scheduler for a program that any fucking person could finish in a week for $100. I complained about the class and demanded a refund. The administrator's response was "[fuck you, DHS and other government agencies say we're great!]" I laughed out loud because they were talking about the people who told me "don't bother." And the program is still trash to this day.

[@Dalmenco]

Thankyou....

[@barryswindles6570]

Did you finish?

[@cybersec90213]

Im honestly tired .. i have done couple of crash courses, i did goggle proffesional cert in cybersecurity , i ve also finished Cisco network associate, i updated my LinkedIn hoping to find a lil job for myself but its not easy, they needed experience and I won't lie i still have to learn a lot im exhausted at the moment , im thinking of raising money and continue doing my old business of computer sales, do i also need to tell u that i did fundamentals in Cybersecurity from university of Maryland , i did it online cos im from Africa, i also had the cert . Im tired honestly 😴

[@Girlslikeus89]

I'm glad I read this comment.....I just got off the phone with them and the cost is 18,000 dollars for 8 months. That's a lot of money. I was actually learning on my own.

[@wabbit6653]

I plan to do the masters degree

[@Degrowjayse]

This cold hard truth comforted me. I thought I was taking my sweet time learning the fundamentals before going Security, i thought i was wasting my time and that I should directly go to cybersecurity+ so i could switch career as soon as possible. I want to know the why and the how, when i learned a 20 min video about subnetting, i spent the next week learning more about it. Sometimes too afraid to go too deep. I thought again, i was losing my time but watching this video proved me wrong and I am so happy. Thank you for reminding me that I need to take the time to learn the fundamentals.

[@siddreneau8269]

This 100% true. The reason why it was been marketed in that way was because in the pandemic and people were working from home so naturally security would come a concern. Somewhere long the line someone in marketing saw that and run with that and start to scam people. I been in the industry for the past 4 years and am telling you this for sure, no company will just let you touch any network systems even if you have a certificate. It takes time to build up. So to end off, their is no going around that "You cannot secure what you don't understand".

[@TheGrimPhreaker]

You’re 100% right. I do have my SEC+ but working as an IT Analyst , and it’s my first True IT job. The more I work, the more I understand cybersecurity

[@BiscayneBarbie]

I plan on starting out in IT just finished a intern in helpdesk

[@alonzosmith6189]

Agree 100%, need to understand hardware topology.

[@vashj9740]

You are so right! I only understood this months after I started, I had so many questions. I had no idea how anything worked. I had to go back for A+ Cybersecurity is not as easy as they say (esp if you're new to IT) it takes time. I wish I heard this earlier.

[@rogermarine1443]

💯. You're absolutely correct. I think people should take A+ first and while doing that, build a new computer from scratch and understand all the internal components. The next step should they understand the Operating System(Client/Server), and learn it's administration . The step they should earn their CCNA and spend a couple years gaining experience. While doing that they can learn Linux, Python and AWS or Azure cloud.

[@xXstevilleXx]

You are right, maybe a bit relaxed, what I said in my initial comment is how you go about this. That was just a core summary. See, besides a Masters in Computing, I have 3 more degrees, Behavioral Science, philosophy and another (I do not mention this, for a reason, but I do mentioned the others for a reason. This will only make sense to those who have been around for a while (I am 42) and who have been doing this for quite some time, I am not from the USA nor the Western world for that matter so English is not my native language. I did some degrees locally some in Europe (northern) mostly in terms of those (2) which I obtained my Masters, this meant I had to learn for one Flemish. Point of me posting two comments is because I wanted to see how channels on YT is giving tips in terms of this context and I watched quite a few, thus far you are the only person who are not using jargon, the only person thus far telling the truth, I am only adding to your narrative. I will stick to what I know for a fact is true and make no mistake, if you were wrong, I would say why and explain why. In the world of hacking, you have three choices, GET GOOD, BE GOOD (means you NEVER stop learning) or GIVE UP... I give the same 'advice' to all, some follow it, many do not, those who do will ALWAYS outmatch, outlast and outsmart those who do not. I have come across many 'experts' in my life and by this I mean in terms of 'arrogant ignorance' not in terms of what hacking. Again, if some want to use lingo such as 'cyber warriors' sure... but frankly as you have mentioned, courses focus on money not what is needed to be a real 'security expert' (I mentioned that already). Be it this comment or the other, once said I stick by it. If you are good at this, conviction so tell you to be ethical and responsible because YOU are rare and your skills ARE VALUABLE... humility goes a long way... remember this

[@aidanbanks1183]

Im 15 with a father in IT with Network+, security +, etc. He said everything that you did and he started me off with network+. Im going through that course and next going to take security+. good thing to keep in mind. Very nice explaining and I agree.

[@JerseyJeff84]

Straying off topic a bit, but I can't say enough about how amazing of a teacher Andrew is. Like many people in I.T. are told, I have relied on various resources(books, content creators, teachers, etc.) in my studies over the years, when it comes to presenting detailed information in an encouraging way, Andrew is top notch! *Context* I've purchased and gone through most of his courses on Udemy.

[@hollyjackson6024]

I agree wholeheartedly I recommend Andrew to others all the time

[@11davethewave]

I did the same thing 👍

[@Grzegorz-Brzeczyszczykiewicz3]

This is a rant video, but it's eye-opening. Thanks for this. I'm pursuing entering the industry and have been following the path commencing on the fundamentals and studying networking.

[@catatonicbug7522]

Working in government IT, I have seen and worked with people who recently graduated from college and have a Security Plus cert, making $100k. I have also seen cyber folks with years of experience who are clueless about the tech. That's the part that bugs me the most - the (cyber) people making the rules (policies and requirements) but don't understand the tech and can't speak to it with approving authorities. Cyber should be made of experienced IT folks who have "graduated" out of the trenches and enjoy paperwork.

[@MrBoydgo]

Do the cyber experts you mentioned work in Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC)? Just curious!

[@catatonicbug7522]

@@MrBoydgo everything from policy writing and RMF to vulnerability scanning and remediation.

[@skeginaldp1533]

I work with some very bright talented recent college grads making 6 figures. They started very young. Since 10 dedicated each year to learning about computers cyber and did many projects on their own & internships.

[@Jupiterxice]

Omg yesssssssss I left Raytheon and I seen kids come out college and have cert but did not know basic IT networking including some managers but they are ones getting promoted. smh

[@johndoe1274]

@@Jupiterxice how are they doing their job?? 🤣 are they the stereotypical kid who never contributes in group projects?

[@vitalizhukau]

Glad I found your channel, I've been studying on my own for the last two years, doing udemy courses and getting certifications and I still feel like I wouldn't hire myself lol

[@hsusyehsh]

best comment yet

[@Make2dayBetter]

Hello, I've been doing the same thing. I have a haven on courses I can shard with you if you would want it.

[@ThGamerX7]

​@@Make2dayBetter Please I do care for This courses if you can help me

[@sinaig6308]

You are absolutely correct. I have a degree in Networking, learned a lot about routing and switching, all the different protocols, port numbers, DNS, linux and way more. Now Im actually studying to get my google cyber sec cert and compTIA Sec + after that and Im happy I am familiar with the basics because Cyber sec would be much easier to understand when you work with hands on tools such as SIEM or Splunk.

[@nerosonic]

I took the Google Cybersecurity Professional Certificate and this course is amazing and it's not one of those scam ones mentioned in this video

[@soulemanbony9239]

Iam taking it too . Did you get a job yet

[@nerosonic]

@@soulemanbony9239 I've not gotten a job yet unfortunately but I'll keep applying! But I absolutely loved this course from Google.

[@dembasoumare4448]

Thank you for this comment. I'm taking this class at this very moment. You are reassuring me. Thanks my good Lad! Cheers!

[@ejikevincentani245]

Am interested How can I get the course

[@celaeno919]

@@ejikevincentani245 search for Google Cybersecurity Professional Certificate. It's free for 1 week then $49 per month after trial ends.

[@Krod1995]

Thank you for this video. I completed my online Google IT Support Professional Certificate and Cybersecurity one in the past. I'm planning on working on applying for IT help desk jobs and then work my way up into cybersecurity to elevate my skills from the ground up. I'm also, going to get back into coding to upgrade my skillset to get into junior coding jobs for the future. I currently work a cybersecurity job where i do minimal experience for vulnerability analysis assessments for a company i work with remotely. I appreciate this video you made and i'm gonna work from ground and evolve my skills overtime.

[@smithkorg2226]

That is very informative video, have bn in it for over 10years. wanted to take S+, I have to go back to my N+ and A+ tutorials to refresh my memory and my target is Cyber security. In IT world so much to learn, if you want to succeed.

[@BAR4Ki]

you are 101% right.. algorithm is almost like a lifetime process to learn and master..

[@adianezhernandez5877]

True! And the Bootcamp say no experience required !

[@Kene_lee]

until you encounter subnetting

[@s1ked_416]

@@Kene_lee boot camps teach you subnetting lol not sure what you on about

[@chinedum.]

😂😂😂​@@Kene_lee

[@Kene_lee]

@@chinedum. Nwannem

[@a-factoracademy]

​@@s1ked_416They teach subnetting yes. But I feel it's a lot more when you have to mentally tell without necessarily doing the cal on paper, that requires a great deal of familiarity

[@adedejiyesufu1451]

I agree 1000%, this is what I have always advised anyone around me, to be successful in cybersecurity, go and learn IT basics and networking first. You can’t secure what you don’t understand.

[@k.elysee6527]

My Cybersecurity class teaches us about networking etc. They say the same thing too.

[@eunbisaranghe9994]

You're right, sometimes these training only teach how to use tools that is available for free online to secure without knowing how these tools works or how anything on the network works. Then when they try to apply it and a breach break a hole on the security they don't know how to fix it and just using things that they learn

[@morisn]

Interesting when you said: You can't secure what you don't understand. Funny story: I was able to confidently create a 'secure local LAN' in the late 90's when the Internet was just starting and all the hype (Similarly, to what's happening with AI now) and after a big technical gap of almost 20 years when I was in a management role and then terminated because the company was making cuts, I want to go back to my technical roots. What's funny is that now I feel probably as lost as some of the folks who want to dive into cybersecurity now. When I see what the hackers are doing and what there needs to be known to counter them, it's mind-boggling. I know, you don't usually go at it alone at a company, you are supposed to be backed up by a 'cybersecurity infrastructure' but still, the expectations are way out there. So yes, I totally agree, I don't know how someone can tell you that you can get job ready with a couple of courses or so. In any case, good luck everyone!

[@jbshave]

You are 100% RIGHT! I've been doing this for almost 30 years and I find it crazy that some company's are promising 6 figure income in 3 - 6 months of training, without being in the trenches first!

[@ianlondon2888]

A+, i dont know about spending money on that. There are free courses that teach A+. Take the Network+ and practice and play around. Next Cysa or/and Casp+ if yiur thinking about 6 figure jobs. Practice and read.

[@danomaly8943]

I agree with this because if you can’t explain what a router does, NAT, how the router determines the fastest route then it is almost impossible to visualize how to secure or defend a network. You won’t even understand how VPNs keep you safe or at what point they keep you safe. I clicked on this video expecting to be disappointed only to feel a lot more confident about the work I’ve put in.

[@arashgudarzi2623]

i first learned network + and then ceh and i didnt understand anything, so i came back, i did a+, network+, security+,ccna,linux+,programming, and many other stuff, and then i went back to ceh and then i could understand what it actually is saying. it took at least 1 year of full time training, to get the basic right and then went for the pentesting stuff

[@manleymukuwasidambi7321]

Absolutely right, this makes a lot of sense!!! Good auditors are expert accountants, top-notch lawyers are experts at law, great teachers are subject matter experts.... so it should be for prolific network security professionals at computer systems & networking matters!!!

[@InTechGigs]

I agree. I’m in networking now, ready to go to cyber now.

[@bekkhaboli]

Learning path: It fundamentals, ram and hard drive difference, network, ip address, subnet, router, switch,access point, how router and system administration works, most used directory Service, how to use active directory to lock down desktop,group policies,casp, ceh

[@cemen777]

Thanks for the video and for sharing your idea about Cybersecurity Training. Most training and boot camps are garbage - agreed. Do you need a background in I.T. - not necessary. Because the I.T. Security is as deep and wide as the Pacific Ocean. For Network Security you need to know CCNA or Aruba, yes. However, for I.T. Compliance / GRC no I.T. experience requires. I know many folks from Finance and Legal are in the Compliance field. All you need is to be a talker, a good one. As far as CompTIA certs - a good foundation, however, you will not get a job in security. Moreover, most I.T. security jobs are outsourced to you know where. The bottom line is that it does not matter how good you are but who you know! Build your network! Good luck to you all! God bless America!

[@Steadyrock100]

Thank you for honesty! I've been working in the supply chain for 20 years while making a gradual transition to IT. I'm studying the basics and getting ground floor knowledge and getting an understanding of how things work. I practice my Python and SQL to stay fresh and carefully watch where the information is coming from. Thank you for this post!

[@jkaduda]

Unfortunately the hiring industry is paper biased. So never ignore base certification. There is no other structured way to start a career in Cybersecurity or Information security. You will learn the rest when your foot is at the door.

[@lII_spetsnaz_lII11]

Real talk, very well told. It’s been ages since I’ve heard and seen someone speak so honestly. That shows your side and level of professionalism.

[@Coltrane360]

I took a Comptia trifecta bundle and have to take the Sec+ this week since the 601 expires end of July. I learned the other subjects first but was wondering if I need to go back and test for those certs or can find a job with the Sec+ by itself or entry level needs the A+. I am just asking cause would take a few extra months to go back and brush up and get in test mode.

[@ninpo23tj]

This man is absolutely right. I've been in the field for almost 33 years and told people who want to get into IT security without knowing IP, subnet, Windows or Linux OS, firewall, routers, switches, ethernet, System Administration, server hardening, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...that they to know these things SMH.

[@deucemaniac]

I do make over 6 digits in my first cybersecurity role but.... that role is based on my 20 years experience of software engineering and 4 years of SRE/DevOps.

[@Kavbutchr]

How does one even get the experience now when every job opening is requiring at least 3 years experience? It's tiring for real.

[@HackedbyD3ath]

You are absolutely correct, take an intro course then learn networking and bare basics like cmd, setting up your own network, basics of notepad, vpn, etc

[@iamnate6415]

This video is inaccurate. After finishing a 4 week cybersecurity online course, I landed a job right away. The pay is not very good, but I'm enjoying my life as a Janitor.

[@___solar___]

I’m an undergraduate cybersecurity student studying a comprehensive which requires both math classes and core. Learning security and its different facets comes with learning Cisco Networking, Linux, operating systems and scripting as well as CORE information security concepts that are vital to any entry level security job, and so much more. This so far has taken me roughly two years of note taking and lab experience working with networks and programming languages. What he said is true: “If it’s too good to be true, it probably is”. This stuff takes time to learn guys.

[@seiduadamu8230]

Thanks you for this eye opener video . Can you please send me the link to your following courses : A+, Network + and Security+

[@jonbrys]

hearing this video helped me feel more confident starting by learning the basics and building a strong base. a+ about to take part 1 but i understand you want to try to learn and start practicing real life skills like soc analyst training, grc, learn some python, some defend me or hack the box, and free internships offered by largest companies in the world to add to your resume while building your knowledge base and certifications at the same time. good luck to everyone on their journey

[@ElPablo390]

What's your opinion on the Google Cybersecurity Professional Certificate?

[@christianrobertadzic9321]

Hi! I really enjoyed your video and vibe your interpretation of this stuff. I'm in the field of IT science over 22 years as a pro and probably my entire life too. Almost from the beginning of my life, the first time I touched my comouter was back in the '80. Today I'm still in business but almost every day in the morning I get a feeling like I'm still at the beginning cos everything is moving so fast forward and evolving. I have to learn something new every day and make testing environments etc. to understand " how the hack is this" now working etc. And then a bunch of brains coming away and shining in some fancy suit, cars and chilling their super trouper crap of laptop and some sort of Linux on it with several stickers like "Kali" etc. and start speaking about what cert. they own... You are so right about what you said in this video. Nobody can solve anything if they don't know the roots or basics. That's soooo simple...

[@crome1115]

Thank you so much for this.I work at a company that offers courses for its employees for free through coursera and they have great courses and of course i was interested in the cyber security courses and the first thing i noticed was that i didnt understand half the terminology and that it seemed you needed some coding experience and i felt completely lost and this was supposed to be the beginners course. So of course i stopped and kind of gave up on this path because ive tried coding before and i just dont seem to have the head for it. I'm glad you made this video cause it shows that a lot of this stuff you see online about the high paying jobs in months is garbage. You are correct, put the time in and learn what you need to learn.

[@digitalimpulse]

I agree with the video that there are many issues within the industry, but each issue can also be an opportunity to advance your career. Instead of just working your way up the traditional ladder, you can leverage these knowledge gaps (presented in the video as a general example) that many people overlook. Success isn’t just about technical expertise it’s about understanding and maneuvering people. By using this strategic approach you can turn industry challenges into stepping stones for career growth as well. I would argue that IT Security and Cloud Security are two entirely different paths. One can be plugged in and unplugged while the other is always on. Having expertise in both areas is somewhat redundant. We don’t need to know how to make a Big Mac to order one, as it’s always available, hot, and ready at any McDonald’s, whether in New York City or Tokyo. Alternatively, if you cook at home, you already know what devices and items you need to prepare your meal but it required you do it on site in your specialized kitchen.

[@ahmadtamim1000]

99% agree with you. I just finished my cybersecurity degree and it didn't come easy. There was a lot of work and certificates I had to get. I had to work for: - A+ - Network+ - Security+ - CySa+ - Pentest+ - ISC SSCP - ISC CCSP - Python learning - SQL learning - Probably like 100 different tools Even then I still feel like I have a lot to learn. It's never enough in this field, constantly changing and you need to be updated and upgraded. For the 1% that I don't agree with is because I did all this in 6 months, 10 hours a day for 7 days a week. So if anyone is doing it quicker is full of bulls***. Got my comptia A, net, and security using your courses, the most amazing instructor every, much appreciated sir.

[@TechnicalInstituteofAmerica]

Great job getting all those certs. We never stop learning in IT.

[@khalivalabi2089]

@@TechnicalInstituteofAmericai wish you have cysa+ training

[@jreamscape]

I did it quicker lol

[@jreamscape]

Hello night owl

[@oneanamoly]

Gotta be single with no kids

[@NightSPD001]

I enjoyed the video you created explaining and touching on what a person who wants to get into cybersecurity should do. I would like for you to create a quick 10 min video of a roadmap guide from start (eg. IT fundamentals) to finish (eg. Sec + or higher) with an estimated time line and what and where to go for hands on practice for cybersecurity skills.

[@chrismurdock7703]

Completely right, I have my ATA in network, and have multiple certifications (A+, Net+, Linux+) and been IT for a couple decades. I have worked in data center, small businesses and all sizes of networks. Only now am I considering Sec+

[@ap4702]

You should go for an intermediate ics2 cert. Sec isn't worth the value if you already have experience.

[@senseiSinclair]

I agree, learn the basics of how computers work, networks, work, before learning cyber security. Depending on the field you are entering.

[@mikitadou]

Hey, my laywer was Uber driver 6 weeks ago

[@flameelorm]

This is very true. I have been in Cyber Security for years now, and I meet people who don't any clue of what is IP address, switch and routers.

[@joeloconnell2965]

Truth!! Thanks for posting and fixing the video AR! I took a 6 month CS Bootcamp and am going to take your advice and get my A+ first!!

[@TechnicalInstituteofAmerica]

Good move. Learn from the bottom up.

[@joeloconnell2965]

@@TechnicalInstituteofAmerica thanks. I've been in IT for many years but never got certified. I'm taking practice tests and doing well. Taking my ITF+ on 7/4 and will schedule my A+ soon afterwards. After that I'll study for my Net+ and once I pass that, then do my Sec+ - appreciate your videos on YT - considering purchasing your classes on Udemy! Can I get some 1 on 1 training as well? :)

[@hollyjackson6024]

​@joeloconnell2965 if you have already worked in IT that many years shouldn't you go straight to A+?

[@joeloconnell2965]

@@hollyjackson6024 Probably. I should have skipped ITF+, but I already purchased it. My plan within the next couple of months is to be certified in ITF+, A+, Net+ and Sec+ - then I should be able to get a decent J.O.B. :)

[@jorgecueva1679]

You remind me of my old teacher. You say what has to be heard, not what everyone wants to hear. Other thing, this field never stops evolving, every Cybersecurity pro has to study every day. Great video. Thanks for sharing. Good Day!!!

[@Brahh777]

I've honestly learned more by first passing the A+ and now studying for the Network+, than I did in a year of vocabulary uni (studying IT-security). I wish I had seen this video 1 year ago haha... But at least I've a viable plan now.

[@marvinunumadu97]

I am so glad I came across this cause I just began a course, and I feel so lost every time I see things like IP addresses and so on. At least I know where to start from now. Thank you so much.

[@bobcunningham8078]

I am a security instructor. I have been in cybersecurity for 45 years (when it was communications security). I have spent most of my career teaching hardware. AND I COULD NOT AGREE WITH THIS VIDEO MORE! “You cannot secure what you do not understand” it’s absolutely true. Additionally, what makes security so fun is how broad are the technologies that we must understand in order to secure them. This is a long road, but it is a profitable road. Like most professions though, you start off at entry-level job and work your way up. During the early years you may be working on switches or routers or installing wireless access points, etc. You learn about these technologies. Perhaps you also learn something about writing programs, administrating databases, understanding how switching and routing work, etc. etc. etc. then you are ready to start securing networks and other resources. This journey is a marathon, not a sprint. But the goal is worth it and you can do it if you keep focused and put in the work!

[@TaureanRuler]

I chose a very traditional route to cybersecurity. I enrolled in technical college that goes from the very beginning learning all of net working, Cloud infrastructure, Penetration testing, scripting, network architecture. I’m in a 4 year program. Cybersecurity requires understanding of not just network but understanding frameworks, and privacy Laws. It’s not a one and done program like web development. You not only have to be technical, and observant, but you also have to be a good communicator. Can you explain in detail, using language that can be understood by those who are not in IT, what’s happening during a threat/risk analysis. Are you a strong writer, can you do reports and consistently document? People who get sucked in for the money will be disappointed when they realize how underprepared they may be.

[@trsands4497]

He is speaking the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth! I have over 30 years in IT. Boot camps and 'Cert Factories' usually yield very disappointing real world results if a person doesn't have a firm grip on the underlying principles. I have made the mistake of hiring based on certs over actual experience. Not saying certs have no value, they do. But, it still takes a year to get a year's experience. Just like in get rich quick schemes they are selling shortcuts.

[@plaidchuck]

Gotta get experience to glhave experience you know? Companies can be picky right now with candidates but eventually you’ll have to train.

[@DouglasPendletonintherealms]

This man is speaking facts, I know personally (whom I love dearly) that has a Masters in Cybersecurity but does not know basic IT.

[@mr.phizzle8755]

I know that Nigerian guy you are referring to, not calling his name..He is always spamming my timeline with 6 weeks to earn 6 figures ad. He said he used to be an Uber driver before that. Scam! 😂

[@dadirosharif123]

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[@samuelababio3444]

What you are saying is true. Am system Administrator and I see people who does not know any about Networking and wanted to do cyber security am even surprised. Thank you very much

[@reatcas]

Cybersecurity should be called DRP standing for Digital Risks Prevention because it's all that is. Cybersecurity should be reserved for top notch hardware and software engineering that is aimed to prevent hacking.

[@adefemiopeyemilastborn8853]

You're absolutely right... learn the basics first 😊

[@Vayanovic]

Rubbish. I had 6 months of training in cybersecurity by a training institute that specializes in it, got my dream job within 4 months of graduation. Was called to interview with many top companies such as Cloudflare, Splunk, etc. I was switching careers and this was just after I had left my job in retail.

[@s1ked_416]

sooo ummmmm who was your connection?? lol

[@apoorvchaturvedi962]

Worked for you . But this is a general awareness about scams . Also I hope you sustain longer.

[@rcortez911]

Sure, you might get the job, but with your limited experience you won’t what you are doing

[@Richard-zm4ol]

You were called by cloudflare 😂😂😂😂. Such companies called experts not newbies who do not understand fundamentals of IT. Many in cybersecurity are unfortunately do not understand basics of networking, severs and so on.

[@Richard-zm4ol]

Exactly, everyone should understand at least A+ content before do any cyber course.

[@justmestephen9476]

You are so right! I'm in the A+ comptia right now 9 months. You need that first

[@Bozowomp]

Damn it’s really cool running into this channel randomly on my recommended, I bought your sec+ course on udemy probs 2 years ago but never knew about this channel. Thanks for being a real teacher.

[@roychabata]

Dude, you are on point, some of the courses dont even cover much of what they claim to teach

[@jaymoney1224]

Bravo!! Great Video.. 100% agree. I’m doing the CompTIA fundamentals and was able to answer all the questions.. it’s a process but you gotta start from the bottom

[@Lupinicus1664]

Good advice. I'm retired now but was in IT over 40 years. Started coding assembler on mainframe kernels, switched to security about 20 years ago, having been a 'hacker' in my spare time anway. I have CEH and CISSP. There is no shortcut. The best you can say is that nowadays it is possible to aim for a career in security from the outset. Such roles didn't exist when I started. Listen to the advice in this video and start with the basics. You will need to understand the computing world far better than the average 'star' programmer to be effective. That takes time.

[@jameskyuli1988]

you have earned my subscription ..you real bro..no sugar coating and quick fixes

[@math-et-science]

BEST VIDEO EVER ! I paid for a $500 crap course, FORTUNATELY, the payment was cancelled for unknown reason and i got refunded.

[@lasagna3084]

Thanks for the video. Seems like really good advice. I’m trying to pivot into IT / Cyber later in life and it’s overwhelming. I can see why there’s the temptation to skip some steps and go for the finish line.

[@TheDonutman44]

So true…same here myself…I’m starting late and also just took Sec + test for my third time and highest I got was a 680….i agree it can be overwhelming with everything you have to know, especially not having any IT experience or really good …computer knowledge at all…so was thinking about just going for 701, and after seeing this video day after, maybe go for A+ and Net + first, and then get Sec +…decisions, decisions…😬🙏

[@gm4765]

Just started at my local technical college (dual majoring for Cybersecurity and Network Specialist). The program is 2 years, and the first year seems to be just networking (prepping for CCNA) with some Cybersecurity classes mixed in, with the second year being more security focused. The advisor sat down with me before I started classes and said "Listen, a lot of people join this program because their expectation is they will get this degree, and as soon as it touches their hands, every Fortune 500 company is going to be begging them to come work for them. The reality is you probably won't get six figure job offers that let you work from home for a bit, and your first job will probably be help desk." I felt pretty confident in joining the program there after that.