Everyone Is Confused About Training To Failure

[@ScottyD_89P13]

Bro just made himself a twin lol. Nice editing

[@BrickMotion_Studios]

fr

[@KyleGSS-fit]

Literally came to the comments to say this exactly.

[@DefeatLust]

What editing?

[@eloraquarl2684]

bro i didn’t even notice, it was that good

[@pandajohn5911]

Not edited, the other dude is bro jeff

[@A1ex-]

training till failure < eating till failure

[@jasoncronin9145]

Don't eat till your stomach gives out, eat until you truly hate yourself

[@Marco-vn1db]

Sorry, could you explain what that means?

[@Alifuzzaman999]

​@@Marco-vn1dbit means you need to eat properly for maximum gain, otherwise workout will do nothing

[@Card_guy1]

Nah I’m really good at eating till failure

[@dakota6050]

@@Alifuzzaman999Maybe for fast metabolism

[@tijmen131]

Training till failure on bulgarian split squats is pure insanity and I love doing it

[@kodykernan6917]

Same bro. Maybe we secretly love the pain 😂

[@FIGP1]

My rest period after that would be like 3 hours. Bulgarians fucking slay me

[@marthoTT]

Training until failure with Bulgarian split squats seems near impossible to me, I can do it with every other exercise, just not Bulgarian split squats 😂 feels like I’d pass out before my muscles actually reach failure tbh

[@incompetenceitself95]

​@@marthoTTyou know those cartoon characters seeing spinning stars when en they're dizzy? Ive experienced multiple times seeing flashing white dots during a set of bss

[@marthoTT]

@@incompetenceitself95 yeah that’s exactly what I feel like too, there’s absolutely 0 way I can hit failure with them without passing out 😂

[@kakarotwolf]

Jeff spotting Jeff, never trust anyone but yourself. Smart.

[@w花b]

Bench press alone. It's you and yourself

[@CapitalG137]

Sometimes you need to get spotted by the realest one you know

[@ziwuri]

@@w花b PSA: Don't clamp while bench pressing alone!

[@njfuentesrespecter81]

As someone with TWO tweaked hamstrings recovering from a meniscus surgery, it hurts my eyes to see people going past failure on hammy curls. I would do anything to just be healthy again. I promise Lord, I will never try to return too fast.

[@ThorKAH]

Look up the wolverine stack

[@imurbeau86]

Leg extensions to failure with extremely slow eccentric.... That moment of standing up after and shaking it off to get that blood rush is one of the best feelings.

[@masii22]

I know what you mean... And heading to squats right after in superset fashion is wild 😂

[@Scion15]

You can stand up after?

[@masii22]

@@Scion15 stand up is something you don't want to do right after 😂 but as far as you can do it to take 2-3 steps to the closest bench to recover, that's enough!

[@aquamarine99911]

@@Scion15 Hah, it was hilarious watching one of Dr. Mike's victims roll out of the leg press machine. He didn't stand for a while.

[@Vincent_Beers]

If you can stand, you didn't go to failure. You should be rolling out and crying on the floor from the pain.

[@RekiLyubvi]

Bro doppelgangered himself just to show a technique. What a legend

[@jsmr451]

He's your brother?

[@jdatin770]

Hes still doin it. Straight up, informative, no bullshit. Love this guy

[@FreedomIII]

even without going to failure, it feels like "control the negative" is super important knowledge.

[@kevinxero]

It's not common sense?

[@niqueo9233]

​@@kevinxero Eh, common sense is a nearly useless term. It's always good to make sure everyone is (relatively) equally informed since we haven't all had the exact same experiences.

[@kevinxero]

@@niqueo9233 doing the exercise properly is the important knowledge, controlling the weight all the way is part of that. If you aren't doing that then you aren't doing it properly in the first place. Common sense is not a useless term when it's included in the original instructions. It doesn't matter if you call it "controlling the negative" it's still the same thing as completing the exercise

[@niqueo9233]

@@kevinxero And you're assuming that the steps to do an exercise properly are common sense.

[@kevinxero]

@@niqueo9233 never did I assume that. That's quite the assumption. Doing an exercise properly is common sense, yes. No one has said knowing how to do it is inherent

[@boblangford5514]

I used to take every set to failure, then I injured myself from overtraining. I had bad, constant pain in my elbow and hamstrings. I still have it today, but it’s not as bad as it used to be. I discovered that while doing a set, when I cannot lift as fast as I started, I can do about 3-4 more reps until failure. So now, I lift in a steady rhythm, and when my movement begins to slow down on the concentric, I do one more rep. That’s about 2 reps in reserve for me. Then, I end the set with an extremely slow eccentric before putting the weight down. When I can do 10 reps or more in all sets of the exercise, I increase the weight slightly the next session.

[@ryancoleman303]

You know it's a cool feeling when you already train this Way and see a video that says science supports your training.

[@onurbole7921]

It is about consistently going at it week after week while progressively overloading grows your muscles. You will eventually train to failure at some point but I don't find it sustainable to do it all the time. Say I gave all I got today, but I have to beat it next week, and the week after... It will burn me out in no time. How can I keep doing it for months? That's where ego lifting, compromising form and most common gym mistakes occur. If I'm just making sure the sets are challenging, it is enough hypertrophy stimulus. Next week I can add a couple pounds, a couple reps, continue to improve and keep growing for months. It doesn't matter how fast you are going, it is about how far you will go.

[@TheHuskyWhisperer]

I get it… you think I’m a failure

[@jksdo88]

not me though

[@utubejuan]

💀

[@MrSinister718]

I mean c'mon. it took 2 Jeffs to make the point.

[@anti-spiral159]

Prove hom wrong, destroy those sets man, come on! One more push! One more bicep! One more squat!

[@q-tips9984]

@@jksdo88 yes u are i had to comment this

[@coachmindy]

the problem with most people isn't that they get close to failure or true failure... the problem is they choose arbitrary numbers like 3 x 10 reps even if they could actually do 17-18 reps.

[@loggames8960]

You can do less reps by putting more weight. It's safe? No. Then what else you can do? Use better technique, cheating less and actually workout the muscle you're aiming. Suddenly, for example, you stop doing leg presses with 100kg and start doing it with 80kg, because you're doing good technique. It's not about how much you can lift, it's all about how much you can work your muscles.

[@dougnulton]

Yeah, which is why Jeff’s approach of taking the last set to failure makes a lot of sense. If you throw out the rep ranges (except for the “minimum” rep range) and go with the “gun to your head” approach and reach true failure, it’s pretty eye opening, especially for beginners. It’ll tell you what your true failure point is, and also what your 1 RIR (RPE 9) is, which is just 1 minus that failure point, etc. And since it’s your last set, this is probably the “lower bound” of your RPE 10, since you probably completed at least 2 working sets prior that were fatiguing the target muscle.

[@bcubed72]

If your goal is 3X10, and you get all 3X10, then you up the weight. Eventually, you'll up the weight to the point you can't get all 3 sets of ten. The you progress until you can, then up the weight again.

[@RaoBlackWellizedArman]

Yes, that is exactly true. And I don't know what these 3 guys replying to your comment mean! Stating the obvious!? No one asked how you would progress the weight etc.

[@inappropriatecontent2589]

This is getting out of hand… now there are TWO of them

[@loganwolv3393]

Jeff Explainer and Jeff Doer

[@MrSinister718]

Science based lifting has gone too far.

[@emieloss7229]

Undervalued comment xD

[@Gingrman-mx4sp]

Nice prequel reference

[@PeteKona]

I pretty much always go to failure unless it's high rep sets, then I just stop when I get sick of it. Then I throw the weights and say F this.

[@rodeothealbum]

this is one of the main reasons you should never go above 12 reps and rarely above 10

[@tbug50]

@@rodeothealbumThis is an incredibly bad take lmao. My shoulders respond way better to 15-20 reps than 8-12

[@Univfy1]

​@@tbug50 Hypertrophy is 8-12, but some people can respond differently.

[@tbug50]

@@Univfy1 That’s not what the science shows lmao. Science shows it’s between 5 and 30 reps with 10-20 being the most likely to contribute the highest to hypertrophy. The ‘8-12 rep hypertrophy 1-6 rep strength’ shit is broscience at its finest

[@tbug50]

@@Univfy1 Renaissance periodization has a whole video on it with the science behind it

[@philsidock]

Call me an optimist; I always control the negative. *BARS* 🗣🔥🔥

[@uuh4yj43]

whats good about last set to failure is that its a good evaluation of your earlier sets, if you did 10 reps each set and in your last set to failure you do for an example 4 more reps you can adjust your next session to go for 12 reps in those earlier sets, so you know its rir 2. and then you take last set to failure again and its still 2 more reps you are correct, if you still do 4 reps extra in that last set you go for 14 so on and so forth. its a great evaluation tool.

[@KWRayleigh]

Jeff has me yelling control the negative during my shoulders workout today. Props king!

[@jacobwallace818]

I’ve only been lifting for about a year but the last 4 months or so I’ve been doing every set to failure after warm up and I’ve been getting way more gains lifting like that. Kind of Mike mentzer style. Like chest day is 2 warm up sets incline dumbbell press then 2 sets to failure, 2 sets dips to failure and 2 sets chest flys or chest press to failure. Only takes like 25 mins with 2 min rest times and it’s yielding the best results I’ve ever gotten.

[@baxt1412]

TWO JEFFS?! The world isn’t ready

[@Jrockfit__]

Spot on Jeff. Most people have absolutely no idea what training with RIR is or what their true RPE is

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

We need a Twin Jeff with a Bro Jeff sneaking in the back next time 🤣

[@thorr18BEM]

There's a comedian that looks like this. He can be the other twin.

[@tommcneill6292]

Lift heavy, lift hard, lift often. Don't overthink this boys.

[@omaaa007]

You're the one influencer which makes a lot of sense in his videos on which the audience can trust❤

[@sevenempestfxntoolsoad3183]

I also do a numbered set and run the last to failure. Has absolutely changed and made results. One day, step and thought fueling consistency into action at a time. Your future self will thank u.

[@jajasi4752]

Very nice editing! The subtle zoom really sells the 2 merged shots as 1

[@orfeo-7_]

My man got big since his time in stand up.... and cured the stutter... nice job.

[@SilverScream03]

Nothing can be better than a Jeff Nippard, except two Jeff Nippard

[@shaunzig9212]

Im doing 8-10 reps per set on most activities with 4/5 sets depending on the exercise. Just started adding a few more on the last set and it feels so good and really gives you a pump. If it you start to feel it a little more than just a stretch then i would say be careful of injury and your heart rate. Stay healthy everyone and keep pushing, its a marathon not a sprint.

[@terminator2348]

We live in a world of extremes. In fitness we have two: the bros and the science based community. I'll just enjoy my training and not overcomplicate every single detail.

[@loganyellowfeet6730]

study on “inexperienced lifters” basically meaning they will grow from any kinda stimuli so if you’ve been training for over a year or so you should be aiming for failure

[@100brokensticks]

Pretty sure it says "in experienced lifters" not "inexperienced lifters" poor word choice lol

[@havenp]

Subtitles got it wrong, he said in experienced not inexperienced. the study was on "resistance-trained individuals"

[@dancingnancy9591]

I started lifting this year. The first 4-5 months was strictly technique focused and I did 6 sets of 13 reps for every muscle group twice a week (ppl). I did progressive overload till I thought I reached a point of 1-3 r.i.r.. took a deload and decided to do a cycle of taking every set to failure so I can learn what failure is. My next meso cycle will be taking what I learn from this year and utilizing it for the most optimal hypertrophy. IM SO GLAD I STARTED LIFTING WITH A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH!!!

[@LOLxArcSaber]

Bulgarian split squats to failure.....my god I'm gona try that LOL

[@TheCJRhodes]

i do bulg split squats once a week (i switch them with reg squats the other leg day to preserve my very long lower back) and have always done them to failure, but usually only 1 or 2 working sets of 7-10 on them, and it's the one exercise that leaves my glutes absolutely fried for more than 4 days, EVERY time.

[@LOLxArcSaber]

@@TheCJRhodes That's awesome. I do them once a week too but always after squats for 3x8. And yea quads and glutes get fried pretty hard the next day for sure.

[@EscapeTheMatrixRightNow]

I achieve failure the second I attempt this exercise 😂

[@marshallrichardson3207]

As a 54 year old who has been strength training for decades, I believe the 1-2 RIR matching the 0 RIR is more indicative that the study was done on inexperienced lifters. After you have been doing it a while, taking your last set to 0 RIR is the key to progressive overload.

[@dougnulton]

This study was actually done on experienced lifters. Jeff said “in experienced subjects” not “inexperienced subjects”, he probably should’ve said “using experienced subjects” to avoid confusion. The title of the study backs this up, if you pause the video, it says “in resistance-trained individuals”

[@laythlayth6355]

Very smart as always, thank u jeff

[@Rulesoffitness]

Leg Extensions to failure and I really main failure with going super slow on the way down is truly satisfying. But doing leg presses to failure always seems risky af to me so I pussy out xD

[@ElizabethHarris-yh5im]

Can't wait to see what else you have up your sleeve!

[@TreeTop9]

I totally agree with this method. It's the most advanced method in my opinion. Failure on the last set. Sometimes you can also quickly drop to a lower weight and get 3-5 more reps.

[@publicrestroom5075]

1-2 reps shy of failure on a 3 rep max compared to a 15 rep max is way different. Thats why this BS 1-2 reps shy is garbage because it doesnt account for how much reps ur doing in that given set

[@_mariko791]

I agree with you hence why I always train till failure.

[@publicrestroom5075]

@@_mariko791its funny that literally NO ONE ive ever heard talk about 1-2 reps shy of failure ever talked about how the amount of reps you can do with that weight makes it different. Ive watched countless videos as well and nobody ever addresses that. Maybe there just referring to the moderate rep zone, like 6-10

[@_mariko791]

@@publicrestroom5075 yeah then they should specify it not just give us some random information

[@upperdecker1750]

Bulgarian split Squats and Nordic Curls are my favorite things ever! Always take the last set to failure! Gets the best pump ever

[@Djdkdkdndkzn1]

Sam Sulek training style was right all along . Taking sets to failure & doing partials at the end of sets

[@backstrapped]

Not really. This is saying quite the opposite, since Sulek takes almost every set to failure. Honestly though, you can find an article or research for anything you want to these days, so I wouldn't swear by this piece of research. Training to failure makes sense to me, and I enjoy it so I'll keep doing it. It also gives me a big fat pump.

[@mikafoxx2717]

If you can recover while doing 12+ sets a week, take em to failure I guess. newbies have much more recovery since there's much less tissue to repair.@@backstrapped

[@StardawgsKillingOurPeople]

Newest literature says that statement couldn’t be more wrong.

[@backstrapped]

@@mikafoxx2717 I guess that makes sense, since a smaller muscle recovers faster than a larger muscle. Though I would argue less volume and higher intensity (pushing to failure on most sets) is better for growing muscle than high volume with less intensity (only a few sets to failure). And I find the amount of recovery can be nearly the same, if not faster when performing less volume.

[@L3x4Pr0ne]

I’m the same. I just take the last set to failure. Myo reps with a 2 sec pause have helped me understand I’m not as close as I thought I was. I’m now doing fewer sets and have been getting next day soreness like I haven’t experienced in years.

[@calle6075]

Jeffs’ twin is more jacked 😢

[@dan_da5213]

Ahhhhh THIS is what i needed to know. As a beginner i was afraid of training like a wuss. Good to know that partials and controlling negatives are a thing in the last set

[@ther3aper561]

Leg extensions are so hard for me to control the negative but I've been trying and I've really noticed a difference in how easy it is to do them now

[@VSci_]

Last time i watched jeff was awhile ago and back then he stopped at 1-2 RIR. Glad to see hes changed this stance. Whatever is challenging for you is what you should be doing.

[@Boyyyyaan]

I do Bulgarian split squats and leg curl on leg days past failure and I get someone to assist me with partials and it's definitely worth it it feels a lot more fulfilling than leaving a few reps on the table

[@DeepSpaceNinja]

I wouldn’t recommend going to failure on squats or deadlifts, or any variation. The risk to reward ratio is bad. But you can do those exercises first and then take the subsequent exercises to failure.

[@JoeMac1983]

I love that your brother helped you in these clips

[@Shokdeewasfound]

You have earned my respect for showing us with your leg day

[@mikey___________]

You have the absolute best editing on KZbin or any platform 💪🏼

[@Thomas-vw8df]

Jeff re-embracing the Mindset, love to see it

[@guywholookspretty]

I have done 6 sets to failure with Bulgarian,it's so satisfying, you just feels accomplished, but it takes too long, I did 3 sets of Bulgarian quad version, and 3 sets of glutes and hamstring together, it just works!

[@WW-ik7vr]

Personally the best way for me to know that I went close to or at failure is doing as many full range as I can then repping out partials (usually just 1-3reps max) to a point where I can't even complete a partial.. then I know I've done more than enough damage to that muscle to start 👍

[@lerippletoe6893]

This is a perfect piece of info. A short that's more useful to people than most full length vids

[@banaanbosse2565]

I tend to train ‘past’ failure for 80% of my sets, I feel like the growth I experience under failure is much higher and works better for me then training with reps in reserve. It’s probably just placebo, but it feels good.

[@trentonbrooks9121]

Dude editing is top notch definitely top tier KZbinr and greatly educated love it bro

[@y55en45]

i always do 4 sets, 1 feel-set with low weight to get in the zone for that specific exercise, 2nd set is a weight slightly higher, done at a higher intensity by incorporating static holds, fast concentric and very controlled, slow eccentrics (until failure or 1-2 reps shy) the next 2 sets are my working sets that i do until maximum failure (initial rep failure with partials at the end and then those myo breaks or whatever where i rest for 20-30s and push out a few more reps)

[@ashb2483]

Your videos are giving me good tips. I’m a noobie in the gym but I’m going consistently. Also been counting my calories. Looking forward to more videos!

[@SethStories]

I think it makes much more sense to train the first set to failure so that you have a good idea of how many reps you have left in the subsequent sets.

[@joesmo3722]

Partial reps are excellent for muscle building.

[@brysonpresley2658]

I just love this, thank you. Man to man. This is quality!

[@andrewsecola7150]

Controlling the negative definitely keeps your ego in check with the amount of weight 😅

[@XxFueqoxX]

I just found your page and you have answered all the questions I’ve had for the last 5 yrs

[@rolgolding]

The hardest part of training is convincing your body that every day you go to a place to give it all until it hurts. And when you are done and satisfied with yourself, tomorrow is a restart and you go again. Every-single-day.

[@B.W.L.9786]

With extensions and leg curls, I assist once I hit failure and then do a few negatives.

[@Shwa.Wa27]

This study takes inexperienced lifters and training to failure is an advanced technique. Maybe failure is optimal for seasoned lifters.

[@AlexisVandom]

That's what I do too. Though I usually leave a bit in the tank if I need the same muscle(s) to work a different muscle(s) in a different exercise afterward.

[@redthunder6183]

The goal of going to the gym isn’t to succeed, it’s to fail. To fail, every time. Very humbling, and difficult. but overtime builds strength from consistent failure.

[@ryanoldryan9189]

Yes. We should train to failure to get the best feeling in the world. THE PUMP babyyyyy😎😎😎💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@ericjackson6515]

Thank you for showing us some examples.

[@Pizzathyme117]

I always feel much better about my progress when I train to failure on my last set of an exercise. The only exception being lat exercises, because I never feel like I can find the sweet spot to bring my lats to failure before everything else.

[@iamsam8446]

Going to failure periodically to test what your limit is is fine. After you consistently workout and have a good mind-muscle connection you know it feels like. But going to failure on a regular basis leaves you open to more potential injuries and wastes time in recovery when you could be doing the next set.

[@leonsubbotsky6087]

You're a beast, jeff. Keep it up.

[@ethancryder8570]

I wouldn’t recommend taking the last set as being the one to failure because by the 3rd or 4th set whatever your last one may be. You’ll have less energy to give and therefore might be a couple reps shy of what failure would be if your muscles were fresh and ready for the set. Take the very first working set to failure, the rest 1-2 before that. Then you’re good to go and can have peace of mind.

[@Kvothe79]

Thank you for this video! All the discussion on RIR and failure training the last few years have led to a lot of confusion.

[@aquamarine99911]

It shouldn't be. If you don't have a spotter and the weight can kill or maim you if you drop it, then DON'T take it to failure.

[@Kvothe79]

@@aquamarine99911 I generally don’t. I have a home gym and work out alone, so only have spotter bars. I do sometimes wonder if I’m leaving something out by not taking some movements to failure

[@aquamarine99911]

@@Kvothe79 Eh, probably not. I'm writing this while in between incline dumbbell press sets. If I have to break form and writhe on the bench to get them up one more time, I'm calling that a "safe" failure. Oh yeah, and one the third set, I'll keep dropping the weight until I get to a real, but more controllable, failure. I guess it works, because it's harder to type this than a few minutes ago, lol!

[@SnowyBlizzard]

Leg press til failure is the hardest thing to actually achieve, idc what any of y’all say

[@christislord137]

Lol I was doing 4 to 6 sets Bulgarian splits, maybe I should chill some. Glad you make these shorts

[@nave94]

Bulgarian split squats I love getting to failure, drop the weights then go to failure again. Good luck getting up

[@purple5557]

I think failure is depndent on the recoverability of the exercise selection i.e train to failure on lateral raises but not overheard press. One is magnitudes more fatiguing. Also i think playing the long game i.e being fresh so you can set PBs over a longer period of training is valuable. Progressive overload leads to more hypertrophy if you can lift more weight.

[@LightWeightYeahp]

Im 19 so I would say Im young enough to take every single set beyond failure (which I do every single workout). I always have a friend with me. And on the smith machine for example, when I no longer can push the weight up, my friend lifts it with me 2 times so that I can do 2 extra slow eccentric movements. And on dumbellpress for example, I never end at the top, always on the bottom with a slow last eccentric repetition.

[@WiredTenshi]

We’ve known this for about a decade now, but going all the failure guarantees growth, whereas it’s easy to convince yourself “yes I only have 2 RiR” when it’s secretly 4

[@AmplifiedRblxYt]

I train till failure just purely because i dont like knowing i could have done more

[@TheRiguyy]

Idc what any study says giving up 2 reps before failure will not induce the same hypertrophy as going to failure.

[@DBZ003]

Jeff learned the Shadow Clone jutsu for his videos. Real commitment 👏

[@arjundhaliwal6132]

As a 15 year old, 133 pound boy, I personally like pushing my self. I don’t know if this is good, but I can do 2 reps of 280 pounds on the Leg Press.

[@jejehdh]

I also spot myself. Jokes aside this is pure value!

[@King1NE-hc5yp]

Hands up,hands down you are the best for a fitness influencer

[@josebenjumedarubio5666]

THANK YOU FOR THIS I REALLY APPRECIATE KNOWING THIS BASED ON A STUDY THANK YOU !!!!!! PLS KEEP DOING THIS KIND OF VIDEOS

[@meelvis939]

I take the first set to failure. I then know how close to take the remaining sets to failure. For example, RIR of 2 First set to failure = 12 reps Second set = 10 reps Third set = 9 reps Average reps = 10.3 reps

[@willpayne755]

This guy really is the goat

[@McKings11]

I pushed my final set on the leg press today to the point where it felt like I temporarily stopped seeing colours… I swear I was gonna pass out after the last rep 😭

[@Thrillr]

💪🏾 Been watching ya videos for a month. keep up the gr8 info mate

[@james63853]

The worst feeling is not a lazy-ish workout itself, but instead the worst feeling is when you had promised yourself to go to failure prior to the workout, and somewhat failed at going to failure, thinking you could have done one rep more. Hack squat in 10-15 reprange is my greatest enemy in this. In my case "training to failure" has been a journey, getting better at it with time.

[@daviddastoli3926]

Partials on the hamstring curls and leg extensions are always brutal

[@ISA4400-m8y]

I soo like when gym videos are gym videos no more no less , NOT AS those SO AKA INFLUENCERS THAT DOES that for OHH THEY STARE AT ME OR GET IN THEIR FACES . Respect for such informational video +++++

[@MyCharleyhorse]

Yes, when I discovered that I was cheating myself out of reps when I was just guessing how close to failure I was getting, I decided to start going to actual failure as often as possible.

[@_Ringfitness]

All those machines look amazing

[@GoldenEra_1975]

Jay cutlers take was spot on. Define failure...