Science Lifters Are Under Attack

[@JeffNippard]

Hey guys! I really wanted to make this video to clear up how I feel about all of this stuff. I hope you guys enjoy it! Two quick reminders: 1. There's less than a week left to pre-order my new book The Muscle Ladder and lock in the best price: jeffnippard.com/themuscleladder 2. My nutrition app MacroFactor is doing a $100,000 transformation challenge starting on Jan 1st! Enter here: macrofactorapp.com/challenge/ Hope you all have a great Christmas! Peace!

[@stickmand_gamingdk5328]

Joyoo

[@faizy8584]

Nice

[@Laughy-Flaaffy]

Merry Christmas Jeff! 🎅🏻

[@stickmand_gamingdk5328]

@ nice

[@erratic7434]

Stop preaching stretch mediated hypertrophy it only causes extra growth in beginners and does not cause myofibril genesis (radial muscle growth)

[@realsupergonks]

thas one heck of a thumbnail and title

[@superjam5433]

can’t keep a goat down

[@Change--Eleven--11]

Bro may be short but he's always the bigger man lol

[@Ileroi]

@@Change--Eleven--11 Why are you obsessed with another mans height?

[@Rory626]

Still clickbait though

[@lookmanmybad3885]

​@@Ileroi It's one comment he isn't obsessed

[@TomasFerreira-tl8of]

Greg taking notes

[@HarshitMorya-y2o]

bro take some pre and chill 😅🤣

[@Junedmx]

Greg's gonna make 10 vids out of this greging his doucheete till he geo2max

[@akapabs108]

More notes than last time.

[@MikeMutethia-h3x]

Lmao Greg is,if anything going to make a 15min video attacking pretty much every single word out of Jeff's mouth.

[@tommysawyer9680]

​@@Junedmx he's gonna turk all over the place

[@Kommunist_Kittens]

I'm a pain based lifter, I use science and optimal data to make my workouts as short and painful as possible (in a proper way) I go to the gym to feel something. The pain is the only thing I chase.

[@camaraman645]

yep, i usually rip my muscle and blend it. then put back for maximum hypertrophy and pain

[@reocraftv2822]

@@camaraman645 don’t forget, it needs to be in the most stretched position!

[@sillylittlemonkey7130]

hypertrophycels be seething over hyperagony chads

[@ollyspalding]

Best workout-based post of December, maybe 2024.

[@BEBEBRAH]

So you're doing HIT?

[@timmian85]

Rick is an S tier reactor to science based tier lists.

[@norodzubara8888]

He is funny too

[@Ludvio]

It's Rick the Stick!

[@mista_danger_4203]

🐴🐔

[@walidayach8623]

Jeff needs to horsecock some weights

[@i_sartist5563]

Rick de la stick.

[@gd_xl]

the main reason i love science based (and the reason it can coexist with non science lifting for me) is that it encourages safety. even just implementing a few principles helps me feel more in control of my body and less likely to injure myself

[@gethina-come7885]

I love it because how "controlled" it is, since im a extremely organized and very system basex person lol

[@Mediorge]

if you want safty , you can lift the bar for as many reps as you can then go home safely. And I want to see how long your ego urges you to put on some plate.

[@ItsMeBarnaby]

Its also keeping you small.

[@faizy8584]

@@gethina-come7885 IKR

[@duanefernando8456]

And more safety means I can live longer and lift more as I age. I just want to one day be able to lift my grandchildren. Or my wife when needed.

[@xm8553]

As we know all professional sports (football, baseball, basketball etc) HATE using science to improve performance! They just go out there and wing it and just “see what works” each time. It’s crazy that so many people involved with weight lifting are so against also using their brain when training

[@filippergovnik2568]

THANK YOU FOR BEING MY FRIENDDD

[@aaron2684]

“If you look up science based lifting the first result is me” On God, that was a bar. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="59">0:59</a>

[@salsalazar7646]

In cs there is this saying, "There are only two kinds of programming languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses", sometimes, I think that's the case for some training methods

[@TurdBoi666]

Damn nerd

[@georgejones9979]

MacroFactor is changing my life. Dropped 12lbs so far and my diet is so much more balanced and optimised. Thanks Jeff and the MF Dev team

[@csguy466]

I'm skinny and it's helping me make sure that I eat enough every day, whereas before I was undereating without really realizing it

[@eazy___4032]

Bot and bot

[@abracadabra16234]

@eazy___4032 sure clown 🤡🤡🤡

[@ninjabobbob]

Nugga doesn’t know what water weight is

[@hassanahkoker5608]

Love the fact you steel man their frustration instead of disagreement

[@cybervoid8442]

Thats a sign of true intelligence in my opinion

[@MKECBS1]

This is the best, clear explanation on these topics in a long time. I often get carried away with how to 'optimise' my workouts, exercise selection, order, timings in week, volume, frequency. It becomes a headache. This video clears up a lot of the 'fog of exercise war' as I like to call it, so I can focus on the basics: Get in the gym, get a good stimulus where you want it, leave and relax. Thanks Jeff for your years of dedication to bringing free fitness advice to us. I know this is your business now, but I've never felt you let money come before your morals in all the ten years I've followed you. Keep up the good fight! Regards from the UK.

[@rejoininghottako3861]

Finally taking advantage of the drama, Jeff XD. You've got all the rights to use that thumbnail

[@f0x845]

Jeff, the way you or your team edits these videos is really well done. Keeps me engaged, not too much, highlight the important stuff. Really great videos, new fan

[@ahmadbroxzy]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="0">00:00</a> Already a banger video man 🔥🔥

[@GuyC7]

The world needs a Bugenhagen/Nippard collab workout video 💪

[@yoandeul9297]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="36">0:36</a> who invited this kid😭

[@ThatGoalieGuy]

he’s ong so annoying

[@RyanMinardovic]

Mario Rios. The 140 lb broccoli who thinks he's impressive.

[@antra69]

Fr i hate himmmmm ​@@ThatGoalieGuy

[@antra69]

@@ThatGoalieGuy fr i hateee him 🫄🏻

[@alienfromarea-5196]

No 1 leon edwards glazer

[@PhaTs00p]

"How much difference does it actually make?" is exactly the point. For most people I'd argue very little. Focus on the basics first, eat, sleep, lift and stop fucking around in the gym.

[@BlitzB102]

I saw a comment like yours a few years ago and it was some of the best advice I’ve ever read because it actually got me lifting. The OG comment said “just go into the gym and start pumping iron” and thats exactly what I did. It’s been 3 years now and I’m in the best shape of my life. If anyone reads the above comment and has doubts just know that it’s really the first step and you’ll figure out what works for you, I promise.

[@luukje]

i think people are hating on science based lifting just because they can. for me your and dr mike his videos have brought more consciousness into how i train resulting in better focus and understanding why i do what i do

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

I think it's just because meatheads criticize things they don't understand

[@AshraNashal52]

I think the tier list clarification is one of the best things from this video. I was pretty sick of having to tell my friends that “no, he doesn’t think a cable lat pulldown will build your entire back better than a row.” It’s for that _specific_ muscle group.

[@carlover4239]

Glad you're doing well!

[@Zharath]

When I think about "science based lifting" I only think about the very basics that I learned from your "Fundamentals" series that I binged when I started lifting 5 years ago. - Safety first, the fastest way to loose gains is getting injured so you cant lift - 10 - 20 sets / week per muscle group - progressive overload - 2+ times a week beats 1 time a week. - 1 - 2g of protein per kg of bodyweight, go high just to be sure - Train close to failure - Prioritize compound lifts - Rest 3 min for heavy lifts, 1-2 min for isolation work I never bother with things like controlling negatives, lenghtened partials or 'tips & tweaks'

[@DerrickSizemore]

Glad you responded. Love the way you out this video together.

[@austinhuber3131]

I'd like to make a case for slow negatives: 1. They encourage good and thorough form for new lifters. 2. They activate and obligate supporting muscle groups that prevent injury in athletic activity that isn't lifting. 3. They add an isometric component to regular exercises that I think is essential for cultivating strength. Not everything is about muscle growth, and psychological effects such as motivation and discipline can have an unquantifiable boost to real world strength application that isn't always evident in a clinical or theoretical setting. I believe slow negatives are a good way to instill such unquantifiable benefits for many if not most people.

[@AlexTheRealG]

Yo Jeff! (We are LOL) Just wanted to say thanks for everything you've done, I've been implementing your stuff for a long time, especially the lateral raises. I'm at 127cm shoulder circumference now. Started applying some more as well, we agree on the majority of things. Keep doing the right thing, Jeff, you're awesome. -Alex

[@itsmylifeokay]

I’m autistic and find the science based information gives me the why and the how behind the lift rather than being like “lift this weight and put it back down again for muscle”

[@Ludvio]

checks out

[@R4vam]

jeff is one of the creators I get the most excited to see uploaded. These are high quality documentaries

[@benjamingerrard2213]

Jeff seriously has the best videos ❤

[@tydupont8084]

My guy finally did it. Way to go Jeff

[@Quansu_Classic]

I am not good at english Hope everyone understands I really think jeff nippart is a good person I mean, why everyone hate jeff when he just try to make quality video help some people like me don't have good genetics ( skinny ) with science Jeff gives me a broader and more diverse angles perspective that helps me become better and better at training He really help me understand more about " Gym" at a newbie Anyway, i from Viet Nam and his video help me learning English right now :))

[@nein4013]

your english is pretty good

[@Ur2059]

English speaker here. that okay. your English good 👍

[@ElijahZaporteza]

Your English is good and i’m glad you’ve made good progress following Jeff’s guidance. He gets a lot of hate because some people interpret Jeff’s personal preferences as scientific end-all-be-all in the gym, and people then assume that all of his content falls under the umbrella of fitness pseudoscience when there are things here and there that are objective truths in lifting.

[@cann495]

i can't lie this man might be the GOAT

[@Rirenzu]

I just started your ultimate push/pull/legs program and I can say that this is the first time that I have felt a pump of this magnitude.

[@danielbernal8948]

That thumbnail is crazy

[@stormlord121]

I thank the universe for you, Mike Israetel and Layne Norton. You 3 are a fountainf of knowledge. Thank you much for everything you do man!

[@AC57001]

i think the biggest issues with "science based lifting" is the misapplication of the science. if you only lifted with principles that are heavily backed by evidence, you would be training in a way that so few people would disagree with. 6+ sets a week, close to failure, controlling negatives, exercises focused on the muscle... these are not esoteric principles

[@ellioto8708]

Excited to watch this one.

[@nicpanczy]

I think the video has been made a few weeks ago because some data is a bit outdated. For example: A new study came out comparing cable laterals (with stretch emphazis) and dumbell laterals and it showed no difference. Also the lowest volume study came out showing that JUST 2 SETS per week can grow muscle (1 set twice per week). Overall, I think this is an amaizing video, Jeff is a really mature guy who takes criticism really well. Love this content! Also the edit is so on point.

[@AutumnHaunts]

Just pre-ordered your book for my husband as a Christmas gift 👏🏻

[@tbag_007]

Jeff never disappoints

[@terrylinfit]

The comparison of the barbell row and single arm lat pull down sums up how you should choose your exercise. It depends on a lot of factors. Each can be programmed properly in someone's workout to build muscle.

[@MotoGinji]

Thank you for being my friend!

[@rodrickprashanth9906]

Finally, the video (thumbnail) we've been waiting for

jeff getting better than ever

[@ramanujdas7109]

The fact that you put the effort to address your critics……..you’re a good man Jeff

[@ezekieljarek7705]

Arguably your best video!

[@clarino2]

Jeff is an extraordinarily reasonable fellow.

[@TCt83067695]

The quality of the edits and graphics. This man never disappoints

[@happythepig5089]

Massive respect for clarifiying and including some caveats instead of doubling down (which is what I've come to expect from most people).

[@PhilomenaMerritt-e5e]

OMG, the effort here is next level. Totally love it.

[@JohnHughesTR]

5 men on a train track and one man on an adjacent track. The train is going to kill all 5 men, unless you pull the lever and switch the track, killing only the 1 man. Do you do it?

[@jonathanmedina5058]

I love your content my guy! Appreciate all the information you’ve shared over the years, you’ll always have my support!

[@junaid_lone]

Just here to show support. Love your content ❤

[@benjoleo]

Thank you for that chart. That’s actually super helpful

[@reocraftv2822]

BRO THIS EARLY IS INSANE

[@TheLunalome]

Bro has mastered youtube titles

I am scientist (biologist, PhD) and, although I advocate for more science in our life, one has to be careful when they read a scientific paper. Those are not "the truth", but some information for the scientific community and not for the public. An information start to fall under "the truth" when it is confirmed, at multiple occasions, by independent teams. Thebrisk is, therefore, to extract one information from one paper and present it as "the way to do"

[@instantsiv]

One thing I noticed is that slow negatives only showed differences in certain body parts. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Jeff mention this. He presents it as if all body parts respond more positively from slow negatives. This makes me wonder about mr science based. I don’t think he’s incapable of understanding this data point. What’s motivating him to omit this?

[@ItsMeBarnaby]

That's what metas are for

[@محمدحجحسين-ح6ف]

I was waiting for this video

[@salvadorfuentes7777]

Thanks for the consistently quality content Jeff, really appreciate it

[@averagefsherman]

I'm at uni to be a chemist and I can't lie that SCIENCE SUCKS tattoo in the thumbnail is calling to me like the green goblin mask

[@Panguz]

Awesome video! It's the perfect description for how to train! ❤

[@SebastianAranza-te9xh]

Bro i was just thinking “wonder when jeff gon upload again”

[@tanaybhomia2784]

Man I love this channel

[@terrastrike2026]

Title is a Mike Van Wyck reference 😂

[@vistastructions]

Bro my thoughts exactly 😅 Seriously though, really happy Jeff is OK

[@ayushonkar850]

Mike Van Wyck is a coward. I bet he would be shy as a goat if it was Eddie Hall or Francis Nganou who said what Jeff said 😂

[@supashyarc]

No shit Sherlock

[@321Tdog]

That's actually his fist in the thumbnail

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

No shit, did you want some complimentary IQ points for your IQ deficit there? I just have a few my boss wants me to up-sell.

[@clickbait1602]

Mad respect for u jeff

[@JosiahFirenze]

Jeff and Dr Mike count me IN

[@sazzowl_gaming8203]

Understanding what you do is always good

[@benjiman7259]

The general public treats all “science” exactly the same, so they either believe everything that purports to be “scientific” or they reject it… This is like the dictionary definition of a science communication problem which means that Jeff is essentially a science communicator What a wonderful realization

[@Jaredbbishop93]

We love you Jeff!!! 🎉

[@joehaywood2910]

Another aspect to science based lifting that the current literature mostly understates is the impact of staying injury free. Survivorship bias and exclusion criteria in studies often results in the people participating in the study are fit, healthy and fairly robust to injury, this isn't the case for everyone in the general population. Science based exercise regimes and selection can help ensure people not only make gains but do so in a safe manner.

[@rolandantoniogeldres8960]

I feel like the reason people don’t like science based lifting is because they assume our main guy is Joel Seedman or we don’t train hard enough. This is false, science based tells you that is convenient to at least take one set to absolute failure on each exercise and the others sets with one or two reps in the tank for recovering issues. We don’t overcomplicate exercises, we simply try to perform the basics with a technique that is less likely to cause injury and works the targeted muscles more efficiently. At the end of the day, you just got to try what feels right for you.

[@nwerre]

Thanks for putting out a book, looking forward to it!

[@elistewart1780]

The summary of this video summarizes what I tell my wife is she misses a workout or skips an exercise. Just getting to the gym and moving weight is GREAT. Exercises, volume, reps, workout plans, etc. don't really matter - just go consistently, eat healthy and try to enjoy it so that you want to go do more.

[@benjaminchen4367]

Jeff with the measured rational takes as always

[@TEXTPLOT2]

yess the goat of science

[@liv1212]

Cant wait for the 4 videos greg is gonna make of this🙏🏼

[@HaroldArrecheaGarcia]

This are the best fittnes advice,s ill never hear .Hi from Cuba 🇨🇺

[@007-v1f]

May god bless u bro !! Thanks for making our workouts scienced based!!!

[@yoelmorales208]

Awesome video man , thank you

[@321Tdog]

Great job getting Dr Mind-Muscle-Connection's opinion, too

[@DevVora-1825]

Was waiting for this video forever

[@angelm3254]

Wait, this veared off track of what I learned from Mike a while back I thought the stretch of the muscle promotes more muscle growth, so I think thats more important, than slow negetive; However, this is why I always thought that the idea of going slow was for a deep stretch + healthier / safer. The last quarter this year I've been hitting slow negetives and deep stretch with every single movement, and besides gains ( which i can tell you there is a noitcable difference). But my flexibility, recovery and health is just over all better with this deep stretch/slow approach. thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[@wallycola5653]

Jeff is a true science based lifter in that he actually uses the scientific method to investigate questions about lifting that don't have clear answers yet

[@arunamaliqrachmadi]

i love science based lifting.. and i always like Jeff Video.. its Helping me as always

[@florisNix]

Love the vid jeff❤

[@1commentsloot]

What YOU connect with best is best

[@almostfamous1685]

The true GOAT, peak male performance. Glad your doing well ❤

[@VuNguyen-fv5jl]

Protect jeff at all costs

[@mingm-ld8rx]

Best fitness youtuber in this game!

[@joesoap7125]

Jeff bouta break the internet with this one

[@rounaksubramanian1686]

Wo this is a very amazing and superb video bro telling about this science lifters are under attack and keep it up and keep up the good work as always and take care Keep smiling always

[@viraj__shah]

Ahh let me address science based lifting criticism with science!

[@ryandeffley7652]

Ideally, you should want to do a mix of slow/ctrl negatives with more time under tension, and normal tempo for explosiveness/power. If all you ever do is focus on time under tension, the body will adapt over time and plateau. It's just like if you use the same weight/reps everytime.

[@StephenMarkTurner]

I went to Amazon and typed in 'Jeff'. The good news is that your name and new book came up first. The bad news is that there are also lots of plagiarizing (likely trash) books 'based on' and 'inspired by' your work.

[@leonzchannelz]

This is like documentary-tier presentation

[@Ahmalik_Yaaz]

NOW THIS IS A TRICKY ONE JEFF!!!!

[@Sferguson360]

New lifter here. A science nerd myself and clinical chemist. naturally, I gravitated to advice from you and mike israetel. This video leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding slow negatives. The nuance you detail here must be made more clear. Looking forward to future videos.

[@Dizeliun]

This is why I start my sets slow and controlled medium weight, progress to heavy low reps, and in the later sets I begin swapping to lighter explosive speed, ending with a full out drop-down from heavy to light trying to hold at the bottom

[@miloslepotic]

Finally! It’s so sad that you have to fucking draw this thing for some folks because they love taking things as absolutes, or at least at face value. My mouth is dry from trying to explain this to people. You know how frustrating it was to find a video where Mike says ‘i use speed as a cue for control/to emphasize control’ whenever someone says ‘he’s proposing you do 5-second negatives’ or some shit like that. Same for exercise tiers - it’s not a do this and don’t ever do this list.. so once again, thanks!

[@Warren_Lifts]

At the end of the day consistency is always going to win

[@tuglakreddy6262]

Hey heff i am from india u motivated me i am a obese and shit i weight 101 now at 85 with solid physique in a span of 9 months thanks man for existing ❤