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Phoenix SC

Phoenix SC

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@CraftyMasterman
@CraftyMasterman Жыл бұрын
To clear up a few things from this video. Odd gt dealys were still possible before copper bulb but they were bigger and clunky. They either involved pistons (which take 3gt) leaves or scaffolding. However, on bedrock edition, redstone only runs on 10 tps (even the odd gt things i mentioned above) so it is impossible to get odd delays on bedrock. There is a running theory that me and the technical community believe that the main reason the bulb got updated to be instant rather than have a 1gt delay was because of bedrocks inability to handle odd delay. Mojangs approch to parity is to just make all the new features "similar enough" and ignore the actual root problems of parity, one of them being bedrocks literal half speed redstone. Also Crafty Crafter Counter mentioned LOL
@CrabO2
@CrabO2 Жыл бұрын
Bundles and now redstone got scrapped because they don't know how to fix bedrock, damn
@blacksmith2479
@blacksmith2479 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this in a bit more detail.
@TheAuthorStudios
@TheAuthorStudios Жыл бұрын
so, in short: Bedrock edition was a mistake
@mindset2047
@mindset2047 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheAuthorStudioswhy bedrock edition cant have same features as Java? Ik it is coded different but we still can have Java features in bedrock but mojang is lazy to do stuff I guess,
@supercyclone8342
@supercyclone8342 Жыл бұрын
​@@mindset2047As a programmer, my guess is that Bedrock has messy code and bad tools. That can lead to simple changes breaking the entire code base, so Mojang opted to just remove the 1 tick instead of completely rewriting Bedrock. On one hand that's practical in this case, but on the other... THIS KEEPS HAPPENING! However, I'm pretty sure they mentioned that they're working on parity tools at Minecraft Live so maybe one day Bedrock will stop being a hindrance to Java and Java can get a better Wither fight.
@augustofilosi4706
@augustofilosi4706 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this consistency thing is: how are people gonna find new and unique uses for these blocks if they behave exactly like other blocks? We dont want "consistent" blocks, we want unique blocks that unlock new possibilities
@Another_El_User
@Another_El_User Жыл бұрын
The 1 tick delay was so good, those who built PC's on Minecraft were going to create a next Gen of processors with that
@petervarga2399
@petervarga2399 Жыл бұрын
And the worst part about them saying it cuz of "consistency" is that they aren't even consistent
@Limrasson
@Limrasson Жыл бұрын
THe quality of the sandbox is determined by the sand and the tools you have at your disposal.
@DotKom01
@DotKom01 Жыл бұрын
​​@@petervarga2399yeah if they're gonna bitch about consistency they have to fix bedrock redstone because that shit is everything BUT consistent
@HonestAuntyElle
@HonestAuntyElle Жыл бұрын
The crafter change makes me sad, because it was super good for crafting dispensers. But the copper bulb one needs to change. Having lighting updates on something so revolutionary is a nightmare. Useful redstone needs more emphasis on not having lighting updates. Wires emitting light was a mistake. They need *something else* that can do 1GT delay
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 Жыл бұрын
Mojang: "Minecraft is a game for people of all ages!" Community: *provides detailed feedback and suggestions to help improve the game* Also Mojang: "It's just a children's game, bro"
@EmperorPenguin1217
@EmperorPenguin1217 Жыл бұрын
Yes, people say "Why do you care, it's a children's game" when you criticize bad decisions When you can just ask them if it's just a kids game then why do you like it?
@dementionalpotato
@dementionalpotato Жыл бұрын
Surely mojang actually expressed this opinion and this comment is not just drivel.
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 Жыл бұрын
@@dementionalpotato Lately my ass has been leaking brown fluid while I sleep, and when I wake up it smells horrible. Do you know how I can fix it?????
@Zreaunes-Overseer-Of-759
@Zreaunes-Overseer-Of-759 Жыл бұрын
@@kramkrum3672I’m pretty sure that would be called diarrhea. If it’s happening during your sleep it may have something to do with whatever you may be eating. Other than that I have no clue.
@watcherknight5938
@watcherknight5938 Жыл бұрын
@@kramkrum3672my bad
@hibilbo4755
@hibilbo4755 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to me that mojang sees the entire redstone community get really hyped for a new block and their first thought is "OH GOD GO BACK GO BACK"
@kuma_score7536
@kuma_score7536 Жыл бұрын
they're scared of what the community can do with their smarts
@broor
@broor Жыл бұрын
The twice as fast sand machine still has 1 tick delays tho? Just remove every other piston
@xenird
@xenird Жыл бұрын
@@broor it's 2 tick delay
@broor
@broor Жыл бұрын
@@xenird then it wouldnt move twice as fast though
@magatmilan8925
@magatmilan8925 Жыл бұрын
​​@@xenird@broor it's 0 tick delay. No delay at all. Not from the copper bulbs at least
@ruthiewitter569
@ruthiewitter569 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a redstone player, BUT, I recognize the immense genius and ingenuity they possess. I am deeply frustrated this incredible power was taken away from them.
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma Жыл бұрын
I almost wonder if this could make flying machines faster…
@Contraption8or
@Contraption8or Жыл бұрын
@@ShockInazuma It could, if the fastest flying machines weren't already at max speed.
@Bunny_Bill
@Bunny_Bill Жыл бұрын
Same here. I know nothing about redstone, but after Phoenix's example, I'm angry such a revolutionary mechanic was taken away.
@hamizannaruto
@hamizannaruto Жыл бұрын
​@@Contraption8orTho I guess it could be smaller!
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 Жыл бұрын
thank god, it would have made many features redundant and caused massive performance issues all because "machine cool tho"
@Sphurcle
@Sphurcle Жыл бұрын
Mojang: Asks for community feedback Community: Gives feedback Mojang: >:(
@TedSh
@TedSh Жыл бұрын
​@@plagueking6559You're really comparing a whale with a mouse..
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 Жыл бұрын
@@TedSh yeah true but hey
@uberculex
@uberculex Жыл бұрын
How it really went: Mojang: Asks for community feedback Community: >:( Mojang hasn't even had a chance to respond yet... This is only on the latest snapshot.
@ssjcrafter8842
@ssjcrafter8842 Жыл бұрын
@@uberculex except they already saw the positive feedback to 1 tick delay? and also except mojang doesn't listen to feedback, as we saw with chat reporting?
@Newpant
@Newpant Жыл бұрын
@@JackWilkebot
@elderfrost9892
@elderfrost9892 Жыл бұрын
if they don't revert this change, I feel like 1 gt copper bulbs are going to quickly become another almost standard vanilla tweaks mod it 100% will be a setting in carpet at least
@tripdrakony869
@tripdrakony869 Жыл бұрын
leave it to modders to fix what mojang messed up
@NerdTheDemon
@NerdTheDemon Жыл бұрын
​@@tripdrakony869Create mod fixed cogs, and now Quark 2 will fix copper bulb
@dmwanderer9454
@dmwanderer9454 Жыл бұрын
​@@tripdrakony869if you don't play Minecraft with mods you're making a mistake. Modders are the real devs
@timtim6373
@timtim6373 Жыл бұрын
@@dmwanderer9454which sucks cause the more they update the game the more mods become fractured
@pbjcake9567
@pbjcake9567 Жыл бұрын
@@tripdrakony869 Mojang becomes more and more like Bethesda every year, broken promises that modders have to fix themselves
@Mateo-zi8ub
@Mateo-zi8ub Жыл бұрын
8:32 Hey, it's me! Small correction: 1 tick delay was possible before the bulb, using scaffolding or leaves, but those methods where a bit inconvenient. The bulb made everything easier.
@Crebs2
@Crebs2 Жыл бұрын
nice
@vectome9360
@vectome9360 Жыл бұрын
@@JackWilke Who asked + hate about it + go touch some grass
@IC-23
@IC-23 Жыл бұрын
We know but it's entirely illogical from an outsiders perspective trying to understand redstone and they were also relatively large where copper bulbs had all the functionality in 1 block allowing for extremely compact 1 tick delays
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 Жыл бұрын
​@@vectome9360what?
@Mateo-zi8ub
@Mateo-zi8ub Жыл бұрын
@@IC-23Exactly!
@SeeKnee-snitch
@SeeKnee-snitch Жыл бұрын
mojang two years earlier: "we won't make iron rust like copper because we want every feature to have a unique mechanic" mojang now: "this new redstone block has a unique mechanic so we are going to strip it away for consistency"
@a_soulspark
@a_soulspark Жыл бұрын
ngl, the one thing Mojang is consistent at consists of its inconsistency with regards to inconsistencies in the game
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 Жыл бұрын
Raid Mojat
@kenos911
@kenos911 Жыл бұрын
My theory is because they can’t get a 1t delay to work properly in bedrock edition, and the bug report is unrelated to the action problem
@BluestTable
@BluestTable Жыл бұрын
Are they having managment changes or smth? Feel like their getting dumber and dumber with each year
@pijacklin9405
@pijacklin9405 Жыл бұрын
its copper it had to be stripped its it's whole gimmick
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 Жыл бұрын
Mojang has really taken a down turn lately. If the Copper Bulb thing happened with another block in 2012, they would've kept it, and made it into a feature. Heck, that's being a little rude even, because a similar thing happened with the Target Block with it interacting with Redstone in an unintended way and they kept it. There was absolutely Zero reason to change this. None.
@joebykaeby
@joebykaeby Жыл бұрын
It’s not Mojang, it’s the oversight from Microsoft. Same thing has happened to MtG since Hasbro acquired Wizards. The people who know how to make the game are forced to take stupid instructions from people who don’t and have to just make the best they can out of it.
@julianpottermusic
@julianpottermusic Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@joebykaebyIt’s not Microsoft. They usually give their acquisitions a lot of free rein in how they work on their games. And regardless, Microsoft wouldn’t be worried about ‘block consistency’ and random redstone stuff anyways, *if* they were gonna get involved with anything it would be with Minecraft’s monetization
@jtucehok
@jtucehok Жыл бұрын
It's not mojang if they aren't making another controvercial change that wasn't even that necessary.
@joebykaeby
@joebykaeby Жыл бұрын
@@julianpottermusic Microsoft is definitely not making decisions about block timings or game specifics, but they are deciding who’s in charge of what, the things that they are and aren’t allowed to do, when they have to release things by, and what the constraints are for budget and scope.
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. Жыл бұрын
@@joebykaebyCope its Mojang. The only thing Microsoft cares about is the games monetization and the whole Microsoft account thing. This is all Mojang
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy Жыл бұрын
I know for a fact I heard a Minecraft KZbinr describe these blocks, why they're so huge for redstone, and that 'These are perfect. These don't need to be changed at all.' before this ridiculous snapshot came out.
@donnydew0325
@donnydew0325 Жыл бұрын
seeing it flow one block at a time made me so happy, then it made my head hurt seeing 2 at a time 😭
@holmat1
@holmat1 Жыл бұрын
It would be a good idea if the copper bulbs would change the tick speed depending on how oxydized they are.
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 Жыл бұрын
nah that would be too hard for mojang indie studio, remember we minecraft fans have no standards and we eat up every slop that mojang throws at us
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Жыл бұрын
I think it's a great idea! However unlikely.
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 Жыл бұрын
@@eliescobis9922 nah I found the modern update better then the past Minecraft update like 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.5, 1.6, 1.10, 1.12 & 1.15
@witherschat
@witherschat Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if it could be done with block states only, and then I remembered about the repeater. I hope we at least get a mod that does it.
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 Жыл бұрын
@@eliescobis9922then why the fuck are you still here? Does the game’s EULA say you’re supposed to keep playing the game forever or something?
@EpicPuffwing
@EpicPuffwing Жыл бұрын
Mojang: “you like this, redstone engineers?” Redstone engineers: “yeah, we really do, actually!” Mojang: “well you can’t have it.” Redstone engineers: “Wait wha-“
@Lurcays
@Lurcays Жыл бұрын
They indirectly don't hear our opinions
@FenLupimo
@FenLupimo Жыл бұрын
@@Lurcays indirectly? they straight up don't care
@Sandstheskeleton
@Sandstheskeleton Жыл бұрын
Monjang
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 Жыл бұрын
Raid Mojang
@mickys8065
@mickys8065 Жыл бұрын
They did the exact same with the infinite dimensions and vote April fools updates. They make some of the greatest content, just to go "haha, fuck you. Also we're banning you from single player now."
@gnitsaf
@gnitsaf Жыл бұрын
and like always the modding community will pick up where mojang fell short
@MariusNinjai
@MariusNinjai Жыл бұрын
typical take modding community 1 week while it takes Mojang 1 year to implement simple stuff
@perxivul
@perxivul Жыл бұрын
I feel like the trill that's possible due to the 1-tick copper bulbs is a really sick application to this mechanic. Note block map makers could really benefit from this, but of course Mojang won't let us have fun in our own way
@Feeeeeeenix
@Feeeeeeenix Жыл бұрын
oh yea it makes it so much less complicated to make 20hz accurate timings
@rollo2007
@rollo2007 Жыл бұрын
That isbaxualy a turn not trill
@Pleshie
@Pleshie Жыл бұрын
Of course mojang won’t let you have fun your own way. What do you think this is? A sandbox game?
@shrouddreamer
@shrouddreamer Жыл бұрын
Note blocks are honestly one of the coolest concepts in the game. I just wished they had a UI to set the pitch. All of this clicking (and checking via F3, *and* comparing the values from it with the pitch table on the Wiki) makes it really tedious to create something, even if you're just copying sheet music.
@just-a-fnf-fan
@just-a-fnf-fan Жыл бұрын
@@PleshieI’m scared to reply to this because I might get wooshed
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
@DeltonAdamsLEGO Жыл бұрын
Im just confused as to why Mojang would make an almost perfect item from the start, allowing for game-changing mechanics, only to change them and make literally everyone mad.
@DigitalWolverine
@DigitalWolverine Жыл бұрын
It’s because of a single “bug” report that complained the copper bulb operated faster than droppers/hoppers. Some moron made this report and mojang paid attention to it instead of the overwhelmingly positive response to the bulbs behavior.
@mindset2047
@mindset2047 Жыл бұрын
​@@DigitalWolverinehonestly who tf was it and why it bothered him/her
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 Жыл бұрын
Because "bedrock parity"
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia Жыл бұрын
Because they are paycheck thiefs with ZERO TALENT
@MeltyNote
@MeltyNote Жыл бұрын
@@mindset2047Jipesnl because they think crafter blocks should be consistent with all redstone ticks
@tisibutasimplechocopancook7923
@tisibutasimplechocopancook7923 Жыл бұрын
real talk: does anyone have any idea why mojang keeps doing this? i genuinely can't think of a way that constantly doing the OPPOSITE of what the community wants can be beneficial. it's not like they're being lazy or anything, they are *going out of their way* to update things in a way nobody wants. edit: hey guys, i understand everyone's frustrated with the new updates, but maybe chill out a bit? it's okay to be upset, but calling the developers "psychopaths" and "morons" is a bit much.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 Жыл бұрын
Devs are shitty
@thahoule7924
@thahoule7924 Жыл бұрын
completely out of touch. it seems like they WANT minecraft to be purely a kids game. just look at the way they speak in every minecraft live or other vids - they are CONSTANTLY talking like they would to a 5 year old. the fact that lots and lots of adults play the game, and almost all of the endgame features and redstone overall are only used by adults, is something they seemingly dont understand
@TheCommenterSam
@TheCommenterSam Жыл бұрын
It feels like genuine malice on Mojang’s part at this rate.
@steveharveysmustache3988
@steveharveysmustache3988 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they most likely see us now as “just dumb consumers that don’t know what they actually want so we’ll show them” it’s like a parent ignoring their kid because they think they know what’s best for them even if all the kid wants is something to eat
@airyonbeck379
@airyonbeck379 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@thahoule7924 This right here. They are probably _creeped out_ by the fact that adults play their game, and even more when adults complain to them about the features
@dogemanbacon
@dogemanbacon Жыл бұрын
it's literally mojang not understanding their own invention lol
@Goofy_Ah_Being_15
@Goofy_Ah_Being_15 Жыл бұрын
​@@JackWilkeagain, we need more context
@wadewhat7365
@wadewhat7365 Жыл бұрын
mojang: we want you using redstone in ways that we didnt intend for the redstone community: does exactly that mojang: D:
@AquaQuokka
@AquaQuokka Жыл бұрын
Damn
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 Жыл бұрын
Minecraft community try not use Mojang on every joke: 😖
@thesaltyduckling80
@thesaltyduckling80 Жыл бұрын
@@plagueking6559it’s hard not to use mojang as a joke when they’ve been running things like a circus for as long as they have. If anything they themselves are the joke
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 Жыл бұрын
@@thesaltyduckling80 idk I have seen the community just as bad as Mojang most of the time
@playbabethebookshelf6249
@playbabethebookshelf6249 Жыл бұрын
@@plagueking6559yeah like, how dare you complain
@aetheralmeowstic2392
@aetheralmeowstic2392 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like someone should step in and _force_ Mojang to keep the 1 tick delay on copper bulbs
@ShiroCh_ID
@ShiroCh_ID Жыл бұрын
this is why i love java, if something doesnt match what we wants someone possibly already made the mods or even datapacks to revert it back
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 Жыл бұрын
who?
@uliveulearnandregret
@uliveulearnandregret Жыл бұрын
honestly giving people enough time to show cool contraptions people could have made with the copper bulb would have probably egged on mojang to keep the change instead of changing it without telling anyone
@Theearthisround69
@Theearthisround69 Жыл бұрын
That, my good sir, would require a gun, mask and 100lbs of c4 (optional)
@r00kiet80
@r00kiet80 Жыл бұрын
​@@uliveulearnandregretthat already happend tho lol
@NicknotNak
@NicknotNak Жыл бұрын
Ive been saying that the only "style" of minecraft player the recent updates have been geared towards is the adventurers and builders. I was so happy to see the redstoners finally getting a good few features, and having one of the two revolutionary blocks: the first big redstone revolution since honey blocks, be nerfed to hell is heartbreaking. Let us little technical/industrial players have our fun too! Edit: im not saying that the updates have been _good_ but they are meant for builders and adventurers. Even if they fail to address problems or bloat their playstyle.
@heydud6777
@heydud6777 Жыл бұрын
honestly, as a builder, I find more decorative and building blocks to be a bit overwhelming. It's a lot easier to pick 5 blocks out of 100 than 5 out of 300. I find the new updates are more pivoted towards those who like adventures, which almost no one likes doing or gets bored after 10 minutes of doing. I think the problem is Mojang is running out of good ideas and is just throwing random crap out there whether people like it or not.
@Schlittlenutacus
@Schlittlenutacus Жыл бұрын
​@@heydud6777ironic too considering they have more than enough ideas to make 3 updates worth
@nvvv_
@nvvv_ Жыл бұрын
As an adventurer... Why bother exploring. The loot in most structures is pretty much worthless. Once you have a villager hall (or several now with the new changes) and some mob grinders, the game is a joke. There's no reason to adventure because after the mid game there's nothing left to really find.
@Myne1001
@Myne1001 Жыл бұрын
I'd disagree. Plenty of new mechanics for farmers to utilize in the last few updates. This is just a really bizarre blunder on Mojang's part.
@vanzwho854
@vanzwho854 Жыл бұрын
As a builder, the copper bulb is ugly I haven't thought of one use for it
@Acudit
@Acudit Жыл бұрын
If Mojang has made the blocks work this way from the start, people wouldn't be mad. But people are now furious that they were given something so much more useful, just for the versatility of it to be removed. Mojang did this when they teased the fireflies and birch biome changes, just to say no. They have to learn to not make promises they can't (or won't in this case) keep. I know snapshots are not promises. It is just an expression. Edit: To all the people saying "But it is a snapshot, and Mojang says nothing in snapshots are set in stone" true, but it being a snapshot does not justify making something good, just for them to change it to make it definitively worse. Snapshots are made to let the community give feedback on stuff, and then help improve it. So here is my feedback. It would be better for this change to be reverted. To the repliers: Guys. Chill. It is just an opinion that this reversion is unwanted by the community. I don't need to hear "but Mojang can do it if they want" again. Of course they can. Doesn't mean we have to like it though.
@LineOfThy
@LineOfThy Жыл бұрын
I agree with y’all but they never promised they would keep the one tick functionality
@Acudit
@Acudit Жыл бұрын
@@LineOfThy By putting it in the game, they made it accessible to people, just to turn around and remove it. They may not have verbally promised, but they demonstrated what they were gonna do, then undid it. It is like pretending to hand a dog a treat just to take it away.
@megaing1322
@megaing1322 Жыл бұрын
@@Acudit They *explicitly* said that the behavior is not guaranteed to stay.
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 Жыл бұрын
@@Acuditthat’s why these are snapshots rather than proper updates
@holdengohs6997
@holdengohs6997 Жыл бұрын
@@megaing1322they also explicitly said that they will look for and react to community feedback.
@uonia
@uonia Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't mind the crafter getting a delay added to it, I feel like in it's previous state it was a bit over powered. They should not have changed the copper bulb though. There were so many interesting uses for it and the possibility that this comes from an avoidance of fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock is frustrating.
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 Жыл бұрын
"fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock" you mean optimizations as that is probably the root of that limitation
@HydratedBeans
@HydratedBeans Жыл бұрын
Who cares if it was overpowered? It was fun, just leave it
@Charnutboy
@Charnutboy Жыл бұрын
The old crafter was an excellent tick counter among other things. Now we don't have that function anymore
@packwolf445
@packwolf445 Жыл бұрын
​@durandle9226 not just optimization, the game is so broken on a fundamental level - I've never had issues with minecraft crashing until they moved from console-specific version to the bedrock network. I've Uninstalled it from both my phone and my consoles. And ofc, it's also super poorly optimized, AND ITS LESS GRAPHICALLY INTENSIVE THAN EVERY OTHER GAME I PLAY I can play Dayz on my old ass Ps4 with 40+ zombies and plenty of players around, with the only limitation being the garbage console servers. But I'll lag loading a chunk in mc
@typhoon1575
@typhoon1575 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't over powered before. That's a fundamentally bad take
@GamerX-2000
@GamerX-2000 Жыл бұрын
Consistency is exactly what the community DOESNT want! The more consistent, the less options.
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Жыл бұрын
redstone SHOULD be a barely-functional mess! every single block SHOULD have its own purpose!
@IRanOutOfPhrases
@IRanOutOfPhrases Жыл бұрын
This isnt what consistency means at all
@JesusIsKingMyLord
@JesusIsKingMyLord Жыл бұрын
Gospel of Jesus Christ John 3:16 For God So loved the world that he gave his only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not Perish but have Everlasting Life. Jesus Christ Died for the sin of the World, If you believe in ur heart God risen Jesus from the dead and confess him with ur mouth to people you shall be saved. Jesus said I Am The only way to heaven there is no other way! Repent of urs sins (Repent means Change ur Mind turning away from sinful things and being truly sorry for it.) trust Jesus and give ur life to him He Loves you cares about you more than anyone ever will! we are saved By Grace Trough Faith!,this is sin: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 3:23 For all have sined and felt short of the Glory of God. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:18‭-‬21‭, ‬23 KJV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 REPENT OR YOU WILL PERISH REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL GET RIGHT WITH GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST.///////
@kairon5249
@kairon5249 Жыл бұрын
see when mojang says "consistency" they dont mean "consistency with other blocks" but instead "consistency with BEDROCK EDITION." bedrock runs on 10 tps, so the effect that copper bulbs have that we saw in java isn't possible on bedrock. Instead of uprooting the underlying issue (10tps) mojang decides its a lot easier to simply remove the feature from java.
@horkah6966
@horkah6966 Жыл бұрын
Mojang: Doesn’t make enough changes in the updates Also Mojang: Changes every little thing in the updates making it worse
@redwolftrash
@redwolftrash Жыл бұрын
@toetruck1589 what review did the quote come from?
@LocalChaos-8217
@LocalChaos-8217 Жыл бұрын
I love how the community is finally starting to stand up for itself (ex: the mob vote) and mojang is just confused as why their community isn’t picture perfect 💀
@citronime
@citronime Жыл бұрын
Mojang devs when the rlly cool addition is actually liked by the community: The minecraft community when the things they liked and have been showcased wasn’t added (fireflies/rigged mobvotes)
@cherricake1796
@cherricake1796 Жыл бұрын
#DownWithMojang
@cherricake1796
@cherricake1796 Жыл бұрын
#StopTheMobVote
@jacobmatthews7524
@jacobmatthews7524 Жыл бұрын
how long before Mojang starts calling the players "a vocal minority" and "toxic fans"
@NerdTheDemon
@NerdTheDemon Жыл бұрын
​@@jacobmatthews7524If Mojang publicly smack-talks their own community, I would definitely think of them more highly than I do right now. That's hilarious.
@_thirtyseven
@_thirtyseven Жыл бұрын
I spent 6+ hours designing my first 2-block-wide hidden staircase that fits into a 12x5x5 space and has a symmetrical opening without the use of slime and honey blocks. I’m really proud of the fact that I was able to put the copper bulbs to good use, but now? Completely useless. But to be honest, I’m not at all that surprised Mojang pulled the plug. edit: redesigned it and it'll now work in the newer snapshots. I've also touched grass as well so yeah I'm not really annoyed at Mojang anymore.
@halfgoodexe
@halfgoodexe Жыл бұрын
Mojave
@cor3po491
@cor3po491 Жыл бұрын
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@dukecocko215
@dukecocko215 Жыл бұрын
everyone keeps dying in mine craft this is a si op
@Egg_Maniac
@Egg_Maniac Жыл бұрын
​@@cor3po491 we won't go quietly, Mojang can count on that.
@3riormrsup
@3riormrsup Жыл бұрын
Please don't complain. You know fully well that Mojang changes a lot of stuff in the snapshots. That's on you for building in a constantly changing and unreleased update.
@CosyHamster
@CosyHamster Жыл бұрын
"Copper Bulbs had added a lot to the game, but they could add a lot more, and some of the hype had been lost." Powerful words
@Dreig
@Dreig Жыл бұрын
they have to make copper bulbs have 1, 2, 3 and 4 ticks delay at the same time, depend of oxidation
@Josh-jw3go
@Josh-jw3go Жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant solution to this whole problem honestly. And it even makes sense because in real life oxidation increases the resistance in a circuit
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 Жыл бұрын
So, make the old problem worse (the fact that the delay wouldn't be the same on Bedrock)?
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 Жыл бұрын
@@herowither12354 not my problem, git gud instead of forcing parity of something that wouldn't have parity anyways (redstone)
@glowstick8639
@glowstick8639 Жыл бұрын
I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEDROCK @@herowither12354
@nade5557
@nade5557 11 ай бұрын
​@@herowither12354its not a problem, they are literally 2 separate versions. They are trying to make it a problem
@AquaQuokka
@AquaQuokka Жыл бұрын
They really hate it when people want to play how they want, don't they. First the report features (don't even get me started on this one), making it so people can't moderate servers how they want. Removing references to guns. (Hmmm, what do creepers drop again?) And now this. Can't we have any fun?
@near5148
@near5148 Жыл бұрын
Minecraft it feels it's run by karens
@Ctacobell
@Ctacobell Жыл бұрын
Microsoft is a bunch of 🤡 🐱 🐱 🐱
@toniee98
@toniee98 Жыл бұрын
I don't think anybody uses the reporting system anyway
@Markm8
@Markm8 Жыл бұрын
They have even removed maps for farms
@matthewboire6843
@matthewboire6843 Жыл бұрын
We can not
@yinleeboon5997
@yinleeboon5997 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the tick delay should depend on its oxidation state (from 0 with no oxidation to 3 when max oxidation)
@joda7697
@joda7697 Жыл бұрын
I'd honestly prefer if it had no delay for the first 3 oxidization states, but the old 1 gt delay when fully oxidized. That way, contraptions that require tight timings (so the ones that use the 1 gt delay) also cause less light update lag, due to the lower emitted light level. But the idea to tie the delay to oxidization is genius, they should totally do that!
@legominifig101
@legominifig101 Жыл бұрын
That’s a really creative and great idea but mojang would probably never even take a second look at their own community❤
@aquaticengineer
@aquaticengineer Жыл бұрын
Actually a cool idea
@Engine1988
@Engine1988 Жыл бұрын
Now THAT is a good idea! It already changes light level due to oxidization, after all!
@derianvandalsen
@derianvandalsen Жыл бұрын
Quite a few people here came up with this compromise!
@malanok
@malanok Жыл бұрын
Next update, all bocks are now consistent with dirt. Any additional functionality like "crafting" was unintentional and will be removed.
@hioman
@hioman Жыл бұрын
Mojang trying not to make the worst possible decisions challenge: impossible
@slava6105
@slava6105 Жыл бұрын
23w47a: Sorry, our debug-build commands (namely `tick`) were accidentally added to the last few snapshots. We hope none of the players were distracted by them nor experienced any discomfort caused by our mistkae. We are *really excited* to bring back the usual player experience.
@tachtra994
@tachtra994 Жыл бұрын
Was that the actual wording they used?
@am_Nein
@am_Nein Жыл бұрын
"we are really excited to bring back the usual player experience - that is, disappointing, lackluster and frustrating."
@Kenya_Berry
@Kenya_Berry Жыл бұрын
Advantage of copper bulb: less laggy redstone lights Design advantage: you can have your lights “go out” over time, giving the artistic builders something
@Driplim
@Driplim Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how parity (for the most part) is features being removed from one game to match the other. I think mojang should embrace the fact that java and bedrock are different games.
@uponeric36
@uponeric36 Жыл бұрын
I truly believe they're prepping for Minecraft 2. Every other Minecraft branded game as flopped under the Minecraft IP. They need a new, killer release in their core franchise... aka Minecraft 2. This could explain why features come so slow to Java. They wanna wrap up and leave the game in a legacy state where it can basically be supported by modders, who have a more efficient development environment anyways, whilst they focus development on MC 2. If they added too much to Java now, they'll have less new features on release for Minecraft 2. Imo, they have to be withholding. because making these things isn't magic. The Minecraft director should have a clear vision forward for the game and their tools have been maturing for a decade. The art isn't a limiting factor at 16x16, and it's not like every mob is some completely new system that should take months to test and develop. Basically, they have no barriers, the game was designed intentionally to be easy to add onto, yet development is slow as hell. It's artificially and intentionally limited.
@fujinshu
@fujinshu Жыл бұрын
They're preparing for the moment where Minecraft Java slowly gets erased and shafted to the legacy channels, then Mojang becomes further and further assimilated into Xbox Game Studios, to the point where it will become wholly published by Xbox Game Studios and the only remnants will be the community and PR arms of Mojang.
@AtomicRobloxProductions
@AtomicRobloxProductions Жыл бұрын
Then people wonder why everyone hates/thinks shitrock is an inferior version lmao
@xenird
@xenird Жыл бұрын
@@AtomicRobloxProductions lmao true
@Rikonardo
@Rikonardo Жыл бұрын
​@@uponeric36 while getting Java Edition deprecated would be the best outcome for us, modders, (because we finally wouldn't have to deal with Mojang breaking stuff each update and making code uglier every year), I can hardly believe they will do this any time soon. This would basically require them to write a new game entirely from scratch, because Bedrock Edition has a lot of fundamental problems, and there is no way Java Edition players would voluntarily move to Minecraft 2 without a full (or at least major) rewrite. And leaving a big part of Java Edition player base on legacy modders-maintained version isn't in Mojang's interest, because this would significantly reduce hype from official updates, which is currently the main source of new players who buy the game. This may also lead to Mojang losing a lot of control they recently acquired in Java Edition (like chat reporting and other stuff), because without the need to keep compatibility with new official releases, community would probably start developing a fork based on older game version (as most of the updates starting with 1.13 traded a lot of optimizations for more readable and convenient codebase, leading to huge performance decrease, which is why almost all non-SMP servers still run pre-1.13 releases under the hood). And having to do a big rewrite raises the question, would it even be profitable? Yes, not having to backport every change from Java to Bedrock would probably cut the development cost, but fixing all Bedrock issues would require a lot of work, and consequentially, money. And giving Java Edition entirely into community hands would probably mean increased spendings on content moderation, because, you know, Mojang needs to keep "caring about their brand image" (aka being assholes) by DMCAing "non-kids-friendly" content and doing other stupid things
@aethersword7823
@aethersword7823 Жыл бұрын
community: please add vertical slabs mojang: but it harms creativity community: please bring back fireflies mojang: but it's poisonous to frogs irl community: please make iron rust like copper mojang: but each feature needs to be unique community: please keep the 1 tick copper bulb mojang: but it's inconsistent every time we want something, they have to make sure we don't get it, and give us the worst reasons for it
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 Жыл бұрын
dont forget community: please add backpacks we cant hold all these new items mojang: ok how about bundles that dont increase inventory space but do allow you to combine different items in one slot Like even when they *do* actually do something its in this wacky roundabout way that doesnt address the issue. Its the same thing with the mob votes really community: please add an item that can extend reach like the create mod mojang: ok, but YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 Жыл бұрын
this comment explains exactly why i hate mojang
@tweetugwe1270
@tweetugwe1270 Жыл бұрын
The firefly one confused me to no end. Cam't they just, program so the frogs don't eat the fireflies in the first place? Why is that even a valid reason?
@wfgjrthwghfwrtj
@wfgjrthwghfwrtj Жыл бұрын
I've never understood why "Vertical Slabs Limit Creativity", Like commands allow you to literally create a whole game and features(Not to mention mods) so if slabs limit creativity then why do commands still exists?
@aegeangaming8280
@aegeangaming8280 Жыл бұрын
@@wfgjrthwghfwrtj i personally think they are saying that it harms the modding community because most of the things listed were added in mods, it sucks for vanilla players and mod creators who have to work on mods to add this stuff because of mojang's incompetence.
@Torder
@Torder Жыл бұрын
I love how Mojang never fails to disappoint their audience ❤
@CF-3300
@CF-3300 Жыл бұрын
How does disappointing people even benefit them?
@TheCommenterSam
@TheCommenterSam Жыл бұрын
@@CF-3300 Negative attention? As much as “no such thing as bad publicity” is a thing, that can backfire badly if it also spread bad words of mouth.
@am_Nein
@am_Nein Жыл бұрын
​@@CF-3300who said it benefitted them?
@Joetoep
@Joetoep Жыл бұрын
And still everyone plays the game.
@-mako-6018
@-mako-6018 11 ай бұрын
@@Joetoep that's gaming communities for you, everyone always has something to complain about yet they play the game daily, i mean for fuck's sake, look at COD lmao, those poor bastards have been playing the same reskin for the last 5 years
@GipsyD29
@GipsyD29 Жыл бұрын
If the copper bulbs were always this way (0 tick delay?) to begin with, most people won't bat an eye. But since they made it how it was (1 tick delay), players got a taste of what that feels like. And a lot of people like it. And now it's taken away. And people riot. Mojang aimed a gun at their own the foot for making the bulbs 1 tick delay to begin with. And with this snapshot, they've shot themselves on the foot. Like giving a candy to a child, then swiping it after the child had a lick. Of course it would cry.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 Жыл бұрын
And as well all know fandoms are very much like children.
@rheatinacreatishia7636
@rheatinacreatishia7636 Жыл бұрын
@@Yipper64 We are all children of God
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 Жыл бұрын
@@rheatinacreatishia7636 Ok I make a lot of religious comments so when I saw this notification I naturally assumed it was in one of those comment sections where I brought it up... but no freaking block game. Yes true, but how is this relevant?
@rheatinacreatishia7636
@rheatinacreatishia7636 Жыл бұрын
@@Yipper64 Think about it
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 Жыл бұрын
Its almost like Mojang gets a kick out of pissing off or alienating their playerbase. They just cant help themselves. They just keep doing it and its exhausting at this point.
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 Жыл бұрын
@@JackWilke what?
@wrathnmalice
@wrathnmalice Жыл бұрын
@@raxcentalruthenta1456 its the average youtube bot, just ignore them
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 Жыл бұрын
@@wrathnmalice ah okay. Guess that explains why the reply felt like it lacked context.
@Tocinos
@Tocinos Жыл бұрын
​@@raxcentalruthenta1456they got yeeted 🧑🏼‍⚖️
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 Жыл бұрын
Or it’s just a sign of how entitled and irritable said playerbase is
@Kabslantivity2000
@Kabslantivity2000 Жыл бұрын
Every update, Mojang becomes worse and worse as a game dev company, I really hope they revert these extremely stupid changes (Including adding back fireflies), as well as making better decisions in the future
@mdbgamer556
@mdbgamer556 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they lost the brains of the operation. He sold out for 2 billion smackeroos. The game will never be the same again.
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 Жыл бұрын
is it mojang or microsoft though? Is it corporate meddling?
@baconboi4482
@baconboi4482 Жыл бұрын
@@dustyrose192it’s definitely gotta be mostly mojang, head did Microsoft won’t care if they don’t add another mob. Since they’ll be able to do it in a work day anyway
@klow6685
@klow6685 Жыл бұрын
No cuz the Firefly thing genuinely was so upsetting. Minecraft desperately needs more ambience and fireflies were perfect. Like how hard is it for them to just program the toads to not eat the fireflies....
@chhabraishan
@chhabraishan Жыл бұрын
Almost all of my friends who were casual solo survival players quit the game cause of the villager nerf, i play on 1.16 and 1.19 and once i beat the dragon on both these versions and get all achievements ill quit too :)
@lcs128
@lcs128 Жыл бұрын
I personally don't use redstone but imagine the cool stuff redstoners could have made with this
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️ the block still is there and does the most important thing. Such an uninformed sheep
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 Жыл бұрын
im personally really glad they removed it
@Yoob-yh5gb
@Yoob-yh5gb Жыл бұрын
@@kelpermoon23why? Theres literally no upside and a ton of downside. All mojang did was show us a new, exciting, different block, then say, “no no, we’re making this less unique. You’ll thank us later.”
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 Жыл бұрын
@@Yoob-yh5gb performance
@Yoob-yh5gb
@Yoob-yh5gb Жыл бұрын
@@kelpermoon23 counterpoint, its harder on your computer to do two things at one then one after another.
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq Жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time Mojang made some god awful decision for this game, I'd probably be able to afford another copy of Minecraft, which is a lot, and is pretty damn sad.
@Engine1988
@Engine1988 Жыл бұрын
If I had a quarter for each time, I could buy the Lionel Triplex!
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 Жыл бұрын
mojang doesnt deserve praise for what they do tbh
@MaximusChivus
@MaximusChivus Жыл бұрын
​@@bruhgod123 My greatest praise is at least they're better than valve and blizzard kinda in some ways
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 Жыл бұрын
@@MaximusChivus valve isnt even that bad compared to other corporations
@blef861
@blef861 Жыл бұрын
​@@MaximusChivusThe bar is really low
@amethyst_dawn
@amethyst_dawn Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I sure do love being able to make a piston door that opens with a smooth animation so that I can walk out through my property where I've collected all the mobs they reintroduced from old mob votes, and then walking down to my village to access essential enchants like Mending that took me anywhere from 9-130 hours to get. I sure hope I'm not the alternative timeline, and Mojang isn't actively deciding to make the best selling game on the planet worse for every single playstyle.
@aa1_scratch_tutorials202
@aa1_scratch_tutorials202 Жыл бұрын
mojang: *adds something new* everyone: *likes it* mojang: *NO*
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
Nope
@Shy_002
@Shy_002 Жыл бұрын
@@CheeseMiserHey kid go back to sucking on your pacifier or add an actual meaningful argument other than “No”
@44Hd22
@44Hd22 Жыл бұрын
3:14 I don’t really do redstone that much but the copper bulb with a one tick delay looks so fun to use. If they fix that I would maybe do redstone.
@dstyKchp
@dstyKchp Жыл бұрын
For the past 3 years it feels like mojang shows us something with genuine potential or something that's great and takes it away for a more mediocre item/feature no wonder a large portion of the community doesn't trust them
@colincayden2068
@colincayden2068 Жыл бұрын
They ***NEED*** to change this back, it's such a cool feature of one tick delay rather than two!
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
No
@ERA_TAKEN
@ERA_TAKEN Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@nyalan8385
@nyalan8385 Жыл бұрын
@@CheeseMiserwhy
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
@@nyalan8385 because yall acting like children, pouting to try and get your way. You all make hating mojang your personality, such immature brats
@Pr0_G4m3r_49
@Pr0_G4m3r_49 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they could revert the copper bulbs and still keep consistency if they had a logical explanation, like for example: all redstone components that use copper have 1 game tick delays, which would have some logic to it bc of its irl use cases
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 Жыл бұрын
the problem at least in part is bedrock redstone ONLY functions on 10 ticks per second unlike on java that only updates on 10 ticks per second aka the pinned comment function scrapped for parity i guess we are lucky they did not just remove quasi-connectivity
@xenird
@xenird Жыл бұрын
@@durandle9226 nobody cares about bedrock anyway
@Darqshadow
@Darqshadow Жыл бұрын
​@@xenirdpeople on console who can't afford a half decent PC do. So... shush
@xenird
@xenird Жыл бұрын
@@Darqshadow A pc half the price of your console will run Minecraft
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 Жыл бұрын
Mojang needs to stop making changes that make nobody happy. They don't satisfy the enthusiasts, they don't satisfy the casuals. They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side.
@T3n50r
@T3n50r Жыл бұрын
"They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side." I think that is exactly what they're doing without saying it outright. People that go on KZbin and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game. They also take peoples low end/medium end set ups, consoles and so on into consideration. They may also see possibilities with the previous tick delay that can be abused before anyone else does, then do changes before anyone notices and leave it at that in a "whew, community is pissed but crisis averted" kind of way. I'm just theorizing now, but it doesn't make sense to spend money and time on "fixing" something the community is hype about if that isn't the case. Either that, or they do this and then change it back a month or two away from the update to be released to keep the hype and talk up for more free PR.
@s3rs312
@s3rs312 Жыл бұрын
@@T3n50r "People that go on KZbin and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game." I doubt that. I don't know where you are from, but Minecraft players I know have internet, and they watch KZbin. While KZbinrs and Enthusiasts are probably not the majority of the player base, they are the one who generates interest for the game. Casual players who play Minecraft will at some point go watch let's plays or tutorials on KZbin. These enthusiasts are the ones utilising the game features to create interesting builds, which helps make Minecraft more enjoyable. I can remember the feeling of watching a tutorial on how to make redstone doors and making one in my own world. [edit] the point is, take an interesting feature away, and the fun potential decreases for everyone, both enthusiast and casuals.
@lordsiergiej9685
@lordsiergiej9685 Жыл бұрын
As someone who enjoys music on Minecraft I welcomed copper bulb with a lot of hope. And that presentation of Chopin was exactly what I wanted in Minecraft without data packs
@ThePope_francis
@ThePope_francis Жыл бұрын
Exactly 100 likes and no replys? Ill fix that.
@lordsiergiej9685
@lordsiergiej9685 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePope_francis thank you
@Annoyance1969
@Annoyance1969 Жыл бұрын
4:44 it was possible before to make 1gt delays with scaffolding or leaves, but copper bulbs are just much better at that. Also the bug report is actually a false report that somehow got accepted. The copper bulb will likely be fixed, but it bug report called out inconsistency between the dispenser/dropper and the crafter. They are completely different blocks, and work in different ways. There's no need for consistency between them, but if they were to change the crafter, then maybe make a good change like making it q-c powerable or changing it to ss15
@ArchivesofCybertron
@ArchivesofCybertron Жыл бұрын
I think regardless of being far more survival oriented, the copper bulb making a red stone contraption more simplified sounds appealing and could bring more people into red stone experimentation.
@notbobsaget5192
@notbobsaget5192 Жыл бұрын
im not a redstoner but they tend to be my favorite MC KZbin channels. I am pissed off for them, All the cool crazy stuff they could have done. lost. I was really excited to see what the technical redstoners were going to pull off.
@HelloIAmAnExist
@HelloIAmAnExist Жыл бұрын
7:45 correction: It is now more bulky and difficult than it needs to be. It wasn't revolutionary because it introduced a new possiblity, you could get 1 tick delays through leafstone and scaffolding (and probably more I can't think of rn) but it just made it much more of a hassle than this 1 block solution
@Zacvh
@Zacvh Жыл бұрын
Frr
@Zacvh
@Zacvh Жыл бұрын
I mean humans are more advanced when we make smaller transistors so it’s the same concept here I think
@willsith9762
@willsith9762 Жыл бұрын
"Ah fuck they're getting too creative with the new blocks, better dial that shit back!"
@chillbizz74
@chillbizz74 Жыл бұрын
Mojang has transformed into a "AAA" game company so they only fix stuff that doesn't need to be fixed and ends up breaking them for absolutely no reason
@birdgirl97_2
@birdgirl97_2 Жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 Жыл бұрын
yes
@amatoyoichi8468
@amatoyoichi8468 Жыл бұрын
Riot.in general
@yuremarodriguezglobe654
@yuremarodriguezglobe654 Жыл бұрын
@@JackWilkewho asked + upload videos
@andyfire0779
@andyfire0779 Жыл бұрын
You mean Microjang, right? Or... Mojasoft
@fluffypawninja7636
@fluffypawninja7636 Жыл бұрын
on the plus side, there's most likely going to be a mod somewhere that either reverts the change or adds a new block with the *sole purpose* to interact with redstone on a 1tick delay
@troll_486
@troll_486 Жыл бұрын
That's not a plus side >Mod still needs to be developed >you need extra effort to put it in >its foreign anyway and locks out vanilla people of it >Mod would revert the state of the game that would be considered "normal' so we gain something but that's not a plus, that's back to neutral
@MaxerV19
@MaxerV19 Жыл бұрын
You mispelled that
@troll_486
@troll_486 Жыл бұрын
@@MaxerV19 ☝🤓
@MaxerV19
@MaxerV19 Жыл бұрын
@@troll_486 😟
@fluffypawninja7636
@fluffypawninja7636 Жыл бұрын
@@troll_486 yea i shouldn't have said plus side- admittedly, i was perhaps a bit too tired to be writing comments yesterday, but i did anyway so...
@NathanCotrill
@NathanCotrill Жыл бұрын
5:26 You had the golden opportunity to Rick Roll us.
@SirDoodicus
@SirDoodicus Жыл бұрын
Ah yes we definitely don’t want more unique ways to use blocks in the block game, we just want nothing to change especially with “major updates” from the smol indie company.
@Pumpkinheadedman
@Pumpkinheadedman Жыл бұрын
6:47 phoenix, for clarification, they kept changing the crafter texture because someone (i believe it was ECKOSOILDER) discovered that with the crafter sideways, you could easily make a... certain symbol. may or may not be germany related...
@bentbliley
@bentbliley Жыл бұрын
i'm not a redstoner but i do enjoy the idea of copper bulbs doing something special like 1 tick delays, especially with how they're obtained. it encourages survival redstoners to explore and sharpen their combat skills in order to obtain them. also, it's so nice seeing t flops getting smaller. i think it's gonna stay that way but i wanted to say something about that
@dowen01
@dowen01 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think the change to a crafter is not a bad thing it was a little bit insane how quick it would go, but the copper bulb if they don't revert it it's such a missed opportunity and I don't think anyone's gonna care other than the technical community so you wouldn't even be upsetting the casual player. It would be nice to get a "no sorry we wont change it back because..... it would break this that and the other...."
@cowhead2856
@cowhead2856 Жыл бұрын
I think why people are upset about the crafter is because it happened at the same time as the copper bulb changes
@GatheredStorm_YT
@GatheredStorm_YT Жыл бұрын
Well the technical community was a lot more upset because they were also helpful for the same reasons as the copper bulb such as with things like binary counters or super precise counters as a general
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
But 90% of the complaints are from people who wont ever use the copper bulb
@ryuined
@ryuined Жыл бұрын
i personally dont see the point of the crafter change but yeah it's not important imo. if farmers want faster auto-crafting they can just use multiple so it's pretty negligible. the copper bulb change tho, like bruh
@cheddarsunchipsyes8144
@cheddarsunchipsyes8144 Жыл бұрын
@@ryuinedthe crafter could have been used for for way more stuff besides crafting. There are KZbin vids about making super accurate clocks with it and stuff, so much potential
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles Жыл бұрын
I think it makes sense to change the crafter to dispenser speed, since it uses a dispenser. But there needs to be a way to 1-tick redstone. If they want the copper bulb to be consistent with redstone lamps, they need another way to get redstone onto one tick
@namenloserflo
@namenloserflo Жыл бұрын
It's possible but less compact. (2 scaffoldings, one on a trapdoor: if you open the trapdoor the scaffolding changes to it's floating state in 1 game tick)
@namenloserflo
@namenloserflo Жыл бұрын
The copper bulb block would be soo much more convenient though
@contomoth6025
@contomoth6025 Жыл бұрын
making the tick delay based on the oxidation level of the copper bulb would be a fun and engaging way of solving this, atleast imo
@ignatius1078
@ignatius1078 Жыл бұрын
I have an idea. they should make the unoxidised copper bulb to have 0 tick delay and as they oxidise they get 1+ tick delay every oxidation level.
@SethbotStar
@SethbotStar Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a 0 tick delay literally just crash the game?
@JamUsagi
@JamUsagi Жыл бұрын
@@SethbotStar There are already a few ways to get 0-tick pulses which are potentially more system-intensive than the bulbs would be, and the game handles them fine unless you do crazy crap with them.
@Mad-Lad-Chad
@Mad-Lad-Chad Жыл бұрын
@@SethbotStar Apparently not, like shown in the video 0 tick is what they are being changed to.
@akeem2983
@akeem2983 Жыл бұрын
​@@SethbotStar No, and normal redstone wires also have a 0 tick delay, just like copper bulbs today. Redstoners frequently do work with sub-tick delay, caused not by an actual delay, but by the fact that while the game processes redstone, different blocks of redstone mechanisms are processed in sort of a queue. And that's why the game doesn't crash all of the time when we light up a wire with 0-tick delay - in code it has strict order that the game follows to process redstone, so there's no situations when game can't decide what to do (if there were, redstone would have been pretty crash-inducing)
@nutzerlossprivataccount6586
@nutzerlossprivataccount6586 Жыл бұрын
Im not a Redstoner, but having Odd-Delays is an Addition that i like. Like the smooth Sand-Circle is so fancy, i can understand that it angers many People. And it makes it easier with the Music-Timing like you shown, i know that you had to build a big Contraption to make such a Timing, or cannot do it. (I cant remember exactly, but i remember that i skipped making Music with Redstone, because of the Timing Issues.)
@bogdanbarbu363
@bogdanbarbu363 Жыл бұрын
The proper solution is NOT to revert the copper bulb but to have the amount of delay be based on the oxidation level. I would propose 0/1/2/3 gt and it somewhat fits in thematically as well because oxidation does have an effect on conductivity in the real world. The thing is, even game tick delays help to avoid synchronization issues in a lot of circuits using T flip-flops and binary counters that would otherwise require workarounds. Odd game ticks are a bit inconvenient to get in some situations and the old copper bulb was very useful here. So I only see this as a way to solve everyone's problems.
@iron4537
@iron4537 Жыл бұрын
5:34 rlly wasnt expecting the best nocturne ever from mr chopin
@wither3615
@wither3615 Жыл бұрын
6:39 i think they changed it because if you place 4 crafters in a certain way it creates a familiar symbol from something in the past...
@frankiecoss7141
@frankiecoss7141 Жыл бұрын
Having the timer (aka the bulb) being condensed into a single block also means less block updates and thus significantly reduces server load. The impact may not be too apparent initially, but for every circuit that you add with an independent clock the difference becomes very noticeable. This is one of the limitations of making circuits in minecraft and why condensing redstone circuits as much as possible is important.
@PhoenixSC
@PhoenixSC Жыл бұрын
Looks like we already have a snapshot! Let's see what's happened... www.twitch.tv/phoenixsclive
@GoIdskuIl
@GoIdskuIl Жыл бұрын
Hello
@bottelofwater
@bottelofwater Жыл бұрын
Oh no not the bots edit: Nevermind?????
@Tocinos
@Tocinos Жыл бұрын
​@@InstagramUser2🧑🏼‍⚖️see ya never
@birdgirl97_2
@birdgirl97_2 Жыл бұрын
“5 replies” what??
@Tocinos
@Tocinos Жыл бұрын
​@@birdgirl97_2🤭
@someguywithatophat7599
@someguywithatophat7599 Жыл бұрын
5:40 I was so scared of it being a fucking rick roll, but when I heard the song it was so nice and more relaxing than I usually find it lol :3
@pranjalrath
@pranjalrath Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@juciymiddle3102
@juciymiddle3102 Жыл бұрын
0:31 YOU CANT RELEASE IT, YOU MIGHT POISION THE FROGS
@geokou7645
@geokou7645 Жыл бұрын
What if we just… mass report it as a bug…
@sleepylith
@sleepylith Жыл бұрын
exactly
@Timer102
@Timer102 Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm I like it
@plutonicattic7995
@plutonicattic7995 Жыл бұрын
Mojang: makes bot to auto mark anything related to copper bulb tick speed "works as intended" because its mojang
@Archrid
@Archrid Жыл бұрын
@@plutonicattic7995 So you start rephrasing the reports so they don't get caught by the bot ;)
@ssjcrafter8842
@ssjcrafter8842 Жыл бұрын
@@Archrid the bulbs of copper copper_bulbs block with id ...
@J4smlne
@J4smlne Жыл бұрын
Maybe, to make everyone happy they could make it so depending on the amount of oxidation the copper bulb is the tick delay it slower/faster? That'd actually allow for some pretty cool contraptions.
@derianvandalsen
@derianvandalsen Жыл бұрын
Imagine your contraption suddenly working differently because of the random decay of such a component (if unwaxed); like locality(?), but somewhat predictable!
@brevortofficial
@brevortofficial Жыл бұрын
5:26 Genuinely surprised this isn't a rickroll.
@doggo-bn4vg
@doggo-bn4vg Жыл бұрын
5:25 ok but we all thought it was gonna be a rickroll right?
@Cane4092
@Cane4092 Жыл бұрын
I swear i was wasnt the only one
@josiahserrano6651
@josiahserrano6651 Жыл бұрын
Same
@ivinnium
@ivinnium 11 ай бұрын
Yeah lol
@Davion56Gaming_AlwaysBeGaming
@Davion56Gaming_AlwaysBeGaming 9 ай бұрын
Same lmao
@Kolateak_
@Kolateak_ Жыл бұрын
Mojang: * adds good feature * Also Mojang: Whoops * removes it *
@Waermelon
@Waermelon Жыл бұрын
Minecraft: Adds a feature Everyone: Super happy about it Minecraft: "That's not right"
@MagolorRR
@MagolorRR Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, copper bulbs are pretty much just the light blocks (the ones obtained with commands), but in survival.
@Aarrowkun
@Aarrowkun Жыл бұрын
True
@Aarrowkun
@Aarrowkun Жыл бұрын
They basically work the same
@Goofy_Ah_Being_15
@Goofy_Ah_Being_15 Жыл бұрын
But better
@naterinosan6920
@naterinosan6920 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the hype also came from the fact that this one tick delay changed a lot about how we could use Redstone, therefor adding a really really curious change that everyone could experiment with for a really long time. In fact, it would probably revive a little bit of the Redstone part of the community. Taking this away I feel like just killed more of their community. They aren't listening for some reason and I feel like that's going to be their biggest downfall.
@namenloserflo
@namenloserflo Жыл бұрын
It's currently possible but less compact
@oddbluedragon
@oddbluedragon Жыл бұрын
if only mojang devs listen to their community like how terraria devs does, im sure minecraft will be awesome
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 Жыл бұрын
RIGHT? Terraria is still getting updates because everyone loves terraria, and relogic can't bring themselves to abandon it.
@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley Жыл бұрын
If this ends up in the final update, I'm definitely making a mod that reverts the change to the copper bulb.
@derianvandalsen
@derianvandalsen Жыл бұрын
This will be our Last Airbender movie moment (..what snapshot? It has always worked like this. This is not a mod-)
@averonisgaming9023
@averonisgaming9023 Жыл бұрын
​@@derianvandalsentheres no 1 tick delay bulb in ba sing se
@matopgaming8858
@matopgaming8858 Жыл бұрын
Something I just feel like minecraft modders make minecraft better than the devs that make the game
@polarknight5376
@polarknight5376 Жыл бұрын
​@@matopgaming8858friends and foes mod.
@theta8529
@theta8529 Жыл бұрын
I think the Auto Crafter Change is Wise, Since Else it can be used to Quickly Overload servers or Clients. But the Copper Bulb should stay as a One tick, But Depending on Weathered State it Should Increase in Delay.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 Жыл бұрын
Well in that case i'd say the copper bulb could be zero tick (as it is after the update) but increase to 1 tick if its weathered at all.
@Ruthro
@Ruthro Жыл бұрын
the load on the server caused by redstone dust is so, so, SO much greater we've been complaining about it for years In fact us technical MC players avoid dust like the plague
@Myne1001
@Myne1001 Жыл бұрын
@@Ruthro and the fact Panda4994, who famously made a redstone wire lag fix, is now working at Mojang and we STILL haven't had it implemented is truly bizarre
@notcraig255
@notcraig255 Жыл бұрын
Do Not Capitalize Every Other Word Like This
@mane42
@mane42 Жыл бұрын
Let us raise an army and make as much noise as physically possible. Not offensive noise, because that will go nowhere. Instead, we need to make noise like "Hey, this was a really cool feature and we want it back!" They can't ignore the majority of their community forever.
@Tasorius
@Tasorius Жыл бұрын
Everyone wanted sideways slabs, and Mojang put it on a list of blocks never to add to the game. You are underestimating the madness and stupidity of Mojang...
@doctorgrubious7725
@doctorgrubious7725 Жыл бұрын
@@Tasoriuswe need a IED producer 💀💀💀
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 Жыл бұрын
I mean, review bombing works. Though google doesn't show minecraft's reviews, so we can't really do that.
@ZombieSler123
@ZombieSler123 Жыл бұрын
As someone who uses redstone with command blocks for certain things, the old copper bulb would've been handy for some of my new map ideas...
@Captain_Bart_Peterson
@Captain_Bart_Peterson Жыл бұрын
Funny thing, there is a high chance that Mojang themselves did the bug reports .
@toniee98
@toniee98 Жыл бұрын
I think you're watching too much history channel
@GatheredStorm_YT
@GatheredStorm_YT Жыл бұрын
I think you’ve been reading too many conspiracy theories
@mymyrrah
@mymyrrah Жыл бұрын
I think you’re right
@Lemon_Turtle
@Lemon_Turtle Жыл бұрын
I think I'm gonna do the moon wall and shout HEHE
@AjianAja
@AjianAja Жыл бұрын
I think
@fireandiceforever975
@fireandiceforever975 Жыл бұрын
What I find funny is the fact that once 1.21 is out, the first mod/datapack that's gonna be uploaded is gonna be a reversion of these blocks back to their original functionality.
@phofers
@phofers 8 ай бұрын
Not with a datapack unfortunatly, but I'm sure it's going to be a mod! It might even be the Carpet mod that does this, and that's developed by gnembon!
@FullMetalMaster
@FullMetalMaster Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting Redstone changes for the longest time I just despise it in general so seeing if there was a one tick delay that I wasn't aware of it was really cool it's actually a nice thing to have and brings interest Redstone for me. Without Mojang has decided hey let's be consistent and this is the reason why I play modded Minecraft in barely any vanilla making redstone contraptions as pain a one tick delay would have been nice but we did it ripped away I will continue to not mine redstone when I go underground
@phantominway
@phantominway Жыл бұрын
What do you dislike about redstone?
@mindset2047
@mindset2047 Жыл бұрын
​@@phantominwayI dislike every piece of redstone In bedrock edition
@thedude4063
@thedude4063 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love Phoenix sneaking in a music theory lesson
@Tocinos
@Tocinos Жыл бұрын
peenix
@Brother_Eberwulf
@Brother_Eberwulf Жыл бұрын
Poonix
@Myne1001
@Myne1001 Жыл бұрын
What gets me is that this is still happening six years after the 2017 "glazed_terracotta" controversy where Mojang wanted to remove quasi-connectivity and sticky pistons dropping blocks. After announcing that and completely not understanding why people were upset, some members of the technical community explained to them how changing this would ruin an entire branch of the game's creative potential. Mojang understood and reversed their decision. Now here we are again. Let's hope they make the right call again.
@AyaanThe0ne
@AyaanThe0ne Жыл бұрын
3:19 The phrase "The copper bulb is pointless" is in of itself, a joke. Literally, it means that the copper bulb has no uses. But the ioke here is the image is a circle. A circle has no vertices, many it *point*less
@AyaanThe0ne
@AyaanThe0ne Жыл бұрын
@@sixjwiansnskakad I deserve that 😭
@saltcutep
@saltcutep Жыл бұрын
They should make the delay go up as the bulb oxidizes
@GTron13
@GTron13 Жыл бұрын
That would be the best of both worlds. Mojang gets their "consistency," redstoners get their odd game ticks. Everyone's happy.
@Lodada
@Lodada Жыл бұрын
2:27 the counter is backwards (binary reads right to left)
@ForgotMyPasswd000
@ForgotMyPasswd000 Жыл бұрын
The most significant bit is on the right side of up counters using d type flip flops
@awsomemrc
@awsomemrc Жыл бұрын
Please make a video where you change all tickspeeds in the entire game to 2 in order to make ALL tick speeds more "consistent". This is clearly the ideal game Mojang Is striving towards.
@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Жыл бұрын
Honestly they need the odd delays. It’s what most people want anyways, so why go out of their way to make it worse for the sake of consistency. We like options to use, and the copper bulb especially gives us a great option for smoother processes and more optimized circuits. They keep removing use and functionality for the sake of keeping it in line with everything else. Why would I ever want to use new stuff if it acts just like stuff we have already had and are used to. Come on Mojang, listen to the community again
@MagnificentlyHighAlien
@MagnificentlyHighAlien Жыл бұрын
Mojang creating something that would change redstone I guess forever, only for them to re-change it to barely changing anything, and then tell the comunnity that they're 'excited' about new redstone stuff just makes me speechless.
@raysay1818
@raysay1818 Жыл бұрын
So in otherwords the community needs to hold off on sharing new and interesting game mechanics to the public because mojang might see it and then decide the best course of action is for people to not have those things.
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
Nope
@averagephlogfan6475
@averagephlogfan6475 Жыл бұрын
Yes actually! Just like Nintendo. Wait until they drop the game and then show off your glitches
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser Жыл бұрын
@@averagephlogfan6475 yall are such sad adults
@MakenaForest
@MakenaForest Жыл бұрын
​​@@CheeseMiserand youre such a miserable kid. this was gamechanging and it was ripped away,
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Жыл бұрын
​@@CheeseMiserWhy are you watching a minecraft video just to complain about it
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