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6 ай бұрын

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The latest snapshot changes the functionality of Copper Bulbs and Crafters, reverting a change that the redstone community was eager to use.
Mumbo's video: • Mojang added ANOTHER G...
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@CraftyMasterman
@CraftyMasterman 6 ай бұрын
To clear up a few things from this video. Odd gt dealys were still possible before copper bulb but they were bigger and clunky. They either involved pistons (which take 3gt) leaves or scaffolding. However, on bedrock edition, redstone only runs on 10 tps (even the odd gt things i mentioned above) so it is impossible to get odd delays on bedrock. There is a running theory that me and the technical community believe that the main reason the bulb got updated to be instant rather than have a 1gt delay was because of bedrocks inability to handle odd delay. Mojangs approch to parity is to just make all the new features "similar enough" and ignore the actual root problems of parity, one of them being bedrocks literal half speed redstone. Also Crafty Crafter Counter mentioned LOL
@CrabO2
@CrabO2 6 ай бұрын
Bundles and now redstone got scrapped because they don't know how to fix bedrock, damn
@blacksmith2479
@blacksmith2479 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this in a bit more detail.
@TheAuthorStudios
@TheAuthorStudios 6 ай бұрын
so, in short: Bedrock edition was a mistake
@mindset2047
@mindset2047 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheAuthorStudioswhy bedrock edition cant have same features as Java? Ik it is coded different but we still can have Java features in bedrock but mojang is lazy to do stuff I guess,
@supercyclone8342
@supercyclone8342 6 ай бұрын
​@@mindset2047As a programmer, my guess is that Bedrock has messy code and bad tools. That can lead to simple changes breaking the entire code base, so Mojang opted to just remove the 1 tick instead of completely rewriting Bedrock. On one hand that's practical in this case, but on the other... THIS KEEPS HAPPENING! However, I'm pretty sure they mentioned that they're working on parity tools at Minecraft Live so maybe one day Bedrock will stop being a hindrance to Java and Java can get a better Wither fight.
@SeeKnee-snitch
@SeeKnee-snitch 6 ай бұрын
mojang two years earlier: "we won't make iron rust like copper because we want every feature to have a unique mechanic" mojang now: "this new redstone block has a unique mechanic so we are going to strip it away for consistency"
@a_soulspark
@a_soulspark 6 ай бұрын
ngl, the one thing Mojang is consistent at consists of its inconsistency with regards to inconsistencies in the game
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 6 ай бұрын
Raid Mojat
@kenos911
@kenos911 6 ай бұрын
My theory is because they can’t get a 1t delay to work properly in bedrock edition, and the bug report is unrelated to the action problem
@user-iy5ww2hj4p
@user-iy5ww2hj4p 6 ай бұрын
Are they having managment changes or smth? Feel like their getting dumber and dumber with each year
@pijacklin9405
@pijacklin9405 6 ай бұрын
its copper it had to be stripped its it's whole gimmick
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: "Minecraft is a game for people of all ages!" Community: *provides detailed feedback and suggestions to help improve the game* Also Mojang: "It's just a children's game, bro"
@EmperorPenguin1217
@EmperorPenguin1217 6 ай бұрын
Yes, people say "Why do you care, it's a children's game" when you criticize bad decisions When you can just ask them if it's just a kids game then why do you like it?
@dementionalpotato
@dementionalpotato 6 ай бұрын
Surely mojang actually expressed this opinion and this comment is not just drivel.
@kramkrum3672
@kramkrum3672 6 ай бұрын
@@dementionalpotato Lately my ass has been leaking brown fluid while I sleep, and when I wake up it smells horrible. Do you know how I can fix it?????
@Zreaunes
@Zreaunes 6 ай бұрын
@@kramkrum3672I’m pretty sure that would be called diarrhea. If it’s happening during your sleep it may have something to do with whatever you may be eating. Other than that I have no clue.
@watcherknight5938
@watcherknight5938 6 ай бұрын
@@kramkrum3672my bad
@hibilbo4755
@hibilbo4755 6 ай бұрын
Crazy to me that mojang sees the entire redstone community get really hyped for a new block and their first thought is "OH GOD GO BACK GO BACK"
@kuma_score7536
@kuma_score7536 6 ай бұрын
they're scared of what the community can do with their smarts
@broor
@broor 6 ай бұрын
The twice as fast sand machine still has 1 tick delays tho? Just remove every other piston
@xenird
@xenird 6 ай бұрын
@@broor it's 2 tick delay
@broor
@broor 6 ай бұрын
@@xenird then it wouldnt move twice as fast though
@magatmilan8925
@magatmilan8925 6 ай бұрын
​​@@xenird@broor it's 0 tick delay. No delay at all. Not from the copper bulbs at least
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 6 ай бұрын
Mojang has really taken a down turn lately. If the Copper Bulb thing happened with another block in 2012, they would've kept it, and made it into a feature. Heck, that's being a little rude even, because a similar thing happened with the Target Block with it interacting with Redstone in an unintended way and they kept it. There was absolutely Zero reason to change this. None.
@joebykaeby
@joebykaeby 6 ай бұрын
It’s not Mojang, it’s the oversight from Microsoft. Same thing has happened to MtG since Hasbro acquired Wizards. The people who know how to make the game are forced to take stupid instructions from people who don’t and have to just make the best they can out of it.
@julianpottermusic
@julianpottermusic 6 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@joebykaebyIt’s not Microsoft. They usually give their acquisitions a lot of free rein in how they work on their games. And regardless, Microsoft wouldn’t be worried about ‘block consistency’ and random redstone stuff anyways, *if* they were gonna get involved with anything it would be with Minecraft’s monetization
@jtucehok
@jtucehok 6 ай бұрын
It's not mojang if they aren't making another controvercial change that wasn't even that necessary.
@joebykaeby
@joebykaeby 6 ай бұрын
@@julianpottermusic Microsoft is definitely not making decisions about block timings or game specifics, but they are deciding who’s in charge of what, the things that they are and aren’t allowed to do, when they have to release things by, and what the constraints are for budget and scope.
@Random_Person.-.
@Random_Person.-. 6 ай бұрын
@@joebykaebyCope its Mojang. The only thing Microsoft cares about is the games monetization and the whole Microsoft account thing. This is all Mojang
@Sphurcle
@Sphurcle 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: Asks for community feedback Community: Gives feedback Mojang: >:(
@TedSh
@TedSh 6 ай бұрын
​@@plagueking6559You're really comparing a whale with a mouse..
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 6 ай бұрын
@@TedSh yeah true but hey
@uberculex
@uberculex 6 ай бұрын
How it really went: Mojang: Asks for community feedback Community: >:( Mojang hasn't even had a chance to respond yet... This is only on the latest snapshot.
@ssjcrafter8842
@ssjcrafter8842 6 ай бұрын
@@uberculex except they already saw the positive feedback to 1 tick delay? and also except mojang doesn't listen to feedback, as we saw with chat reporting?
@Newpant
@Newpant 6 ай бұрын
@@JackWilkebot
@augustofilosi4706
@augustofilosi4706 6 ай бұрын
The problem with this consistency thing is: how are people gonna find new and unique uses for these blocks if they behave exactly like other blocks? We dont want "consistent" blocks, we want unique blocks that unlock new possibilities
@Another_El_User
@Another_El_User 6 ай бұрын
The 1 tick delay was so good, those who built PC's on Minecraft were going to create a next Gen of processors with that
@petervarga2399
@petervarga2399 6 ай бұрын
And the worst part about them saying it cuz of "consistency" is that they aren't even consistent
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 6 ай бұрын
THe quality of the sandbox is determined by the sand and the tools you have at your disposal.
@DotKom01
@DotKom01 6 ай бұрын
​​@@petervarga2399yeah if they're gonna bitch about consistency they have to fix bedrock redstone because that shit is everything BUT consistent
@HonestAuntyElle
@HonestAuntyElle 6 ай бұрын
The crafter change makes me sad, because it was super good for crafting dispensers. But the copper bulb one needs to change. Having lighting updates on something so revolutionary is a nightmare. Useful redstone needs more emphasis on not having lighting updates. Wires emitting light was a mistake. They need *something else* that can do 1GT delay
@elderfrost9892
@elderfrost9892 6 ай бұрын
if they don't revert this change, I feel like 1 gt copper bulbs are going to quickly become another almost standard vanilla tweaks mod it 100% will be a setting in carpet at least
@tripdrakony869
@tripdrakony869 6 ай бұрын
leave it to modders to fix what mojang messed up
@NerdTheDemon
@NerdTheDemon 6 ай бұрын
​@@tripdrakony869Create mod fixed cogs, and now Quark 2 will fix copper bulb
@dmwanderer9454
@dmwanderer9454 6 ай бұрын
​@@tripdrakony869if you don't play Minecraft with mods you're making a mistake. Modders are the real devs
@timtim6373
@timtim6373 6 ай бұрын
@@dmwanderer9454which sucks cause the more they update the game the more mods become fractured
@pbjcake9567
@pbjcake9567 6 ай бұрын
@@tripdrakony869 Mojang becomes more and more like Bethesda every year, broken promises that modders have to fix themselves
@tisibutasimplechocopancook7923
@tisibutasimplechocopancook7923 6 ай бұрын
real talk: does anyone have any idea why mojang keeps doing this? i genuinely can't think of a way that constantly doing the OPPOSITE of what the community wants can be beneficial. it's not like they're being lazy or anything, they are *going out of their way* to update things in a way nobody wants. edit: hey guys, i understand everyone's frustrated with the new updates, but maybe chill out a bit? it's okay to be upset, but calling the developers "psychopaths" and "morons" is a bit much.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 6 ай бұрын
Devs are shitty
@thahoule7924
@thahoule7924 6 ай бұрын
completely out of touch. it seems like they WANT minecraft to be purely a kids game. just look at the way they speak in every minecraft live or other vids - they are CONSTANTLY talking like they would to a 5 year old. the fact that lots and lots of adults play the game, and almost all of the endgame features and redstone overall are only used by adults, is something they seemingly dont understand
@TheCommenterSam
@TheCommenterSam 6 ай бұрын
It feels like genuine malice on Mojang’s part at this rate.
@steveharveysmustache3988
@steveharveysmustache3988 6 ай бұрын
I feel like they most likely see us now as “just dumb consumers that don’t know what they actually want so we’ll show them” it’s like a parent ignoring their kid because they think they know what’s best for them even if all the kid wants is something to eat
@airyonbeck379
@airyonbeck379 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@thahoule7924 This right here. They are probably _creeped out_ by the fact that adults play their game, and even more when adults complain to them about the features
@EpicPuffwing
@EpicPuffwing 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: “you like this, redstone engineers?” Redstone engineers: “yeah, we really do, actually!” Mojang: “well you can’t have it.” Redstone engineers: “Wait wha-“
@Lurcays
@Lurcays 6 ай бұрын
They indirectly don't hear our opinions
@FenLupimo
@FenLupimo 6 ай бұрын
@@Lurcays indirectly? they straight up don't care
@Sandstheskeleton
@Sandstheskeleton 6 ай бұрын
Monjang
@torterra1826
@torterra1826 6 ай бұрын
Raid Mojang
@norbertnaszydowski4789
@norbertnaszydowski4789 6 ай бұрын
Repeaters have 2, 4, 6, 8, so bulbs could have 1, 3, 5, 7
@ruthiewitter569
@ruthiewitter569 6 ай бұрын
I’m not a redstone player, BUT, I recognize the immense genius and ingenuity they possess. I am deeply frustrated this incredible power was taken away from them.
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma 6 ай бұрын
I almost wonder if this could make flying machines faster…
@contraption8or633
@contraption8or633 6 ай бұрын
@@ShockInazuma It could, if the fastest flying machines weren't already at max speed.
@Bunny_Bill
@Bunny_Bill 6 ай бұрын
Same here. I know nothing about redstone, but after Phoenix's example, I'm angry such a revolutionary mechanic was taken away.
@hamizannaruto
@hamizannaruto 6 ай бұрын
​@@contraption8or633Tho I guess it could be smaller!
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 6 ай бұрын
thank god, it would have made many features redundant and caused massive performance issues all because "machine cool tho"
@LocalChaos-8217
@LocalChaos-8217 6 ай бұрын
I love how the community is finally starting to stand up for itself (ex: the mob vote) and mojang is just confused as why their community isn’t picture perfect 💀
@citronime
@citronime 6 ай бұрын
Mojang devs when the rlly cool addition is actually liked by the community: The minecraft community when the things they liked and have been showcased wasn’t added (fireflies/rigged mobvotes)
@cherricake1796
@cherricake1796 6 ай бұрын
#DownWithMojang
@cherricake1796
@cherricake1796 6 ай бұрын
#StopTheMobVote
@jacobmatthews7524
@jacobmatthews7524 6 ай бұрын
how long before Mojang starts calling the players "a vocal minority" and "toxic fans"
@NerdTheDemon
@NerdTheDemon 6 ай бұрын
​@@jacobmatthews7524If Mojang publicly smack-talks their own community, I would definitely think of them more highly than I do right now. That's hilarious.
@aetheralmeowstic2392
@aetheralmeowstic2392 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, I feel like someone should step in and _force_ Mojang to keep the 1 tick delay on copper bulbs
@ShiroCh_ID
@ShiroCh_ID 6 ай бұрын
this is why i love java, if something doesnt match what we wants someone possibly already made the mods or even datapacks to revert it back
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 6 ай бұрын
who?
@uliveulearnandregret
@uliveulearnandregret 6 ай бұрын
honestly giving people enough time to show cool contraptions people could have made with the copper bulb would have probably egged on mojang to keep the change instead of changing it without telling anyone
@Theearthisround69
@Theearthisround69 6 ай бұрын
That, my good sir, would require a gun, mask and 100lbs of c4 (optional)
@r00kiet80
@r00kiet80 6 ай бұрын
​@@uliveulearnandregretthat already happend tho lol
@DeltonAdamsLEGO
@DeltonAdamsLEGO 6 ай бұрын
Im just confused as to why Mojang would make an almost perfect item from the start, allowing for game-changing mechanics, only to change them and make literally everyone mad.
@DigitalWolverine
@DigitalWolverine 6 ай бұрын
It’s because of a single “bug” report that complained the copper bulb operated faster than droppers/hoppers. Some moron made this report and mojang paid attention to it instead of the overwhelmingly positive response to the bulbs behavior.
@mindset2047
@mindset2047 6 ай бұрын
​@@DigitalWolverinehonestly who tf was it and why it bothered him/her
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 6 ай бұрын
Because "bedrock parity"
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia
@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia 6 ай бұрын
Because they are paycheck thiefs with ZERO TALENT
@MeltyNote
@MeltyNote 6 ай бұрын
@@mindset2047Jipesnl because they think crafter blocks should be consistent with all redstone ticks
@wadewhat7365
@wadewhat7365 6 ай бұрын
mojang: we want you using redstone in ways that we didnt intend for the redstone community: does exactly that mojang: D:
@AquaQuokka
@AquaQuokka 6 ай бұрын
Damn
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 6 ай бұрын
Minecraft community try not use Mojang on every joke: 😖
@thesaltyduckling80
@thesaltyduckling80 6 ай бұрын
@@plagueking6559it’s hard not to use mojang as a joke when they’ve been running things like a circus for as long as they have. If anything they themselves are the joke
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 6 ай бұрын
@@thesaltyduckling80 idk I have seen the community just as bad as Mojang most of the time
@playbabethebookshelf6249
@playbabethebookshelf6249 6 ай бұрын
@@plagueking6559yeah like, how dare you complain
@uonia
@uonia 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't mind the crafter getting a delay added to it, I feel like in it's previous state it was a bit over powered. They should not have changed the copper bulb though. There were so many interesting uses for it and the possibility that this comes from an avoidance of fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock is frustrating.
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 6 ай бұрын
"fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock" you mean optimizations as that is probably the root of that limitation
@HydratedBeans
@HydratedBeans 6 ай бұрын
Who cares if it was overpowered? It was fun, just leave it
@Charnutboy
@Charnutboy 6 ай бұрын
The old crafter was an excellent tick counter among other things. Now we don't have that function anymore
@packwolf445
@packwolf445 6 ай бұрын
​@durandle9226 not just optimization, the game is so broken on a fundamental level - I've never had issues with minecraft crashing until they moved from console-specific version to the bedrock network. I've Uninstalled it from both my phone and my consoles. And ofc, it's also super poorly optimized, AND ITS LESS GRAPHICALLY INTENSIVE THAN EVERY OTHER GAME I PLAY I can play Dayz on my old ass Ps4 with 40+ zombies and plenty of players around, with the only limitation being the garbage console servers. But I'll lag loading a chunk in mc
@typhoon1575
@typhoon1575 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't over powered before. That's a fundamentally bad take
@gnitsaf
@gnitsaf 6 ай бұрын
and like always the modding community will pick up where mojang fell short
@MariusNinjai
@MariusNinjai 6 ай бұрын
typical take modding community 1 week while it takes Mojang 1 year to implement simple stuff
@holmat1
@holmat1 6 ай бұрын
It would be a good idea if the copper bulbs would change the tick speed depending on how oxydized they are.
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 6 ай бұрын
nah that would be too hard for mojang indie studio, remember we minecraft fans have no standards and we eat up every slop that mojang throws at us
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV 6 ай бұрын
I think it's a great idea! However unlikely.
@plagueking6559
@plagueking6559 6 ай бұрын
@@eliescobis9922 nah I found the modern update better then the past Minecraft update like 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.5, 1.6, 1.10, 1.12 & 1.15
@witherschat
@witherschat 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering if it could be done with block states only, and then I remembered about the repeater. I hope we at least get a mod that does it.
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 6 ай бұрын
@@eliescobis9922then why the fuck are you still here? Does the game’s EULA say you’re supposed to keep playing the game forever or something?
@dogemanbacon
@dogemanbacon 6 ай бұрын
it's literally mojang not understanding their own invention lol
@Goofy_Ahh_Productions_15
@Goofy_Ahh_Productions_15 6 ай бұрын
​@@JackWilkeagain, we need more context
@donnydew0325
@donnydew0325 6 ай бұрын
seeing it flow one block at a time made me so happy, then it made my head hurt seeing 2 at a time 😭
@Torder
@Torder 6 ай бұрын
I love how Mojang never fails to disappoint their audience ❤
@CF-bg3jd
@CF-bg3jd 6 ай бұрын
How does disappointing people even benefit them?
@TheCommenterSam
@TheCommenterSam 6 ай бұрын
@@CF-bg3jd Negative attention? As much as “no such thing as bad publicity” is a thing, that can backfire badly if it also spread bad words of mouth.
@am_Nein
@am_Nein 6 ай бұрын
​@@CF-bg3jdwho said it benefitted them?
@Joetoep
@Joetoep 6 ай бұрын
And still everyone plays the game.
@-mako-6018
@-mako-6018 5 ай бұрын
@@Joetoep that's gaming communities for you, everyone always has something to complain about yet they play the game daily, i mean for fuck's sake, look at COD lmao, those poor bastards have been playing the same reskin for the last 5 years
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 6 ай бұрын
I know for a fact I heard a Minecraft KZbinr describe these blocks, why they're so huge for redstone, and that 'These are perfect. These don't need to be changed at all.' before this ridiculous snapshot came out.
@Mateo-zi8ub
@Mateo-zi8ub 6 ай бұрын
8:32 Hey, it's me! Small correction: 1 tick delay was possible before the bulb, using scaffolding or leaves, but those methods where a bit inconvenient. The bulb made everything easier.
@Crebs2
@Crebs2 6 ай бұрын
nice
@vectome9360
@vectome9360 6 ай бұрын
@@JackWilke Who asked + hate about it + go touch some grass
@IC-23
@IC-23 6 ай бұрын
We know but it's entirely illogical from an outsiders perspective trying to understand redstone and they were also relatively large where copper bulbs had all the functionality in 1 block allowing for extremely compact 1 tick delays
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 6 ай бұрын
​@@vectome9360what?
@Mateo-zi8ub
@Mateo-zi8ub 6 ай бұрын
@@IC-23Exactly!
@Dreig
@Dreig 6 ай бұрын
they have to make copper bulbs have 1, 2, 3 and 4 ticks delay at the same time, depend of oxidation
@Josh-jw3go
@Josh-jw3go 6 ай бұрын
That's a brilliant solution to this whole problem honestly. And it even makes sense because in real life oxidation increases the resistance in a circuit
@herowither12354
@herowither12354 6 ай бұрын
So, make the old problem worse (the fact that the delay wouldn't be the same on Bedrock)?
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 6 ай бұрын
@@herowither12354 not my problem, git gud instead of forcing parity of something that wouldn't have parity anyways (redstone)
@glowstick8639
@glowstick8639 6 ай бұрын
I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEDROCK @@herowither12354
@nade5557
@nade5557 5 ай бұрын
​@@herowither12354its not a problem, they are literally 2 separate versions. They are trying to make it a problem
@Kabslantivity2000
@Kabslantivity2000 6 ай бұрын
Every update, Mojang becomes worse and worse as a game dev company, I really hope they revert these extremely stupid changes (Including adding back fireflies), as well as making better decisions in the future
@mdbgamer556
@mdbgamer556 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, they lost the brains of the operation. He sold out for 2 billion smackeroos. The game will never be the same again.
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 6 ай бұрын
is it mojang or microsoft though? Is it corporate meddling?
@baconboi4482
@baconboi4482 6 ай бұрын
@@dustyrose192it’s definitely gotta be mostly mojang, head did Microsoft won’t care if they don’t add another mob. Since they’ll be able to do it in a work day anyway
@klow6685
@klow6685 6 ай бұрын
No cuz the Firefly thing genuinely was so upsetting. Minecraft desperately needs more ambience and fireflies were perfect. Like how hard is it for them to just program the toads to not eat the fireflies....
@chhabraishan
@chhabraishan 6 ай бұрын
Almost all of my friends who were casual solo survival players quit the game cause of the villager nerf, i play on 1.16 and 1.19 and once i beat the dragon on both these versions and get all achievements ill quit too :)
@perxivul
@perxivul 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the trill that's possible due to the 1-tick copper bulbs is a really sick application to this mechanic. Note block map makers could really benefit from this, but of course Mojang won't let us have fun in our own way
@Feeeeeeenix
@Feeeeeeenix 6 ай бұрын
oh yea it makes it so much less complicated to make 20hz accurate timings
@rollo2007
@rollo2007 6 ай бұрын
That isbaxualy a turn not trill
@Pleshie
@Pleshie 6 ай бұрын
Of course mojang won’t let you have fun your own way. What do you think this is? A sandbox game?
@shrouddreamer
@shrouddreamer 6 ай бұрын
Note blocks are honestly one of the coolest concepts in the game. I just wished they had a UI to set the pitch. All of this clicking (and checking via F3, *and* comparing the values from it with the pitch table on the Wiki) makes it really tedious to create something, even if you're just copying sheet music.
@just-a-fnf-fan
@just-a-fnf-fan 6 ай бұрын
@@PleshieI’m scared to reply to this because I might get wooshed
@malanok
@malanok 6 ай бұрын
Next update, all bocks are now consistent with dirt. Any additional functionality like "crafting" was unintentional and will be removed.
@Kenya_Berry
@Kenya_Berry 6 ай бұрын
Advantage of copper bulb: less laggy redstone lights Design advantage: you can have your lights “go out” over time, giving the artistic builders something
@Acudit
@Acudit 6 ай бұрын
If Mojang has made the blocks work this way from the start, people wouldn't be mad. But people are now furious that they were given something so much more useful, just for the versatility of it to be removed. Mojang did this when they teased the fireflies and birch biome changes, just to say no. They have to learn to not make promises they can't (or won't in this case) keep. I know snapshots are not promises. It is just an expression. Edit: To all the people saying "But it is a snapshot, and Mojang says nothing in snapshots are set in stone" true, but it being a snapshot does not justify making something good, just for them to change it to make it definitively worse. Snapshots are made to let the community give feedback on stuff, and then help improve it. So here is my feedback. It would be better for this change to be reverted. To the repliers: Guys. Chill. It is just an opinion that this reversion is unwanted by the community. I don't need to hear "but Mojang can do it if they want" again. Of course they can. Doesn't mean we have to like it though.
@LineOfThy
@LineOfThy 6 ай бұрын
I agree with y’all but they never promised they would keep the one tick functionality
@Acudit
@Acudit 6 ай бұрын
@@LineOfThy By putting it in the game, they made it accessible to people, just to turn around and remove it. They may not have verbally promised, but they demonstrated what they were gonna do, then undid it. It is like pretending to hand a dog a treat just to take it away.
@megaing1322
@megaing1322 6 ай бұрын
@@Acudit They *explicitly* said that the behavior is not guaranteed to stay.
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 6 ай бұрын
@@Acuditthat’s why these are snapshots rather than proper updates
@holdengohs6997
@holdengohs6997 6 ай бұрын
@@megaing1322they also explicitly said that they will look for and react to community feedback.
@AquaQuokka
@AquaQuokka 6 ай бұрын
They really hate it when people want to play how they want, don't they. First the report features (don't even get me started on this one), making it so people can't moderate servers how they want. Removing references to guns. (Hmmm, what do creepers drop again?) And now this. Can't we have any fun?
@near5148
@near5148 6 ай бұрын
Minecraft it feels it's run by karens
@Ctacobell
@Ctacobell 6 ай бұрын
Microsoft is a bunch of 🤡 🐱 🐱 🐱
@toniee98
@toniee98 6 ай бұрын
I don't think anybody uses the reporting system anyway
@Markm8
@Markm8 6 ай бұрын
They have even removed maps for farms
@matthewboire6843
@matthewboire6843 6 ай бұрын
We can not
@amethyst_dawn
@amethyst_dawn 6 ай бұрын
Oh boy, I sure do love being able to make a piston door that opens with a smooth animation so that I can walk out through my property where I've collected all the mobs they reintroduced from old mob votes, and then walking down to my village to access essential enchants like Mending that took me anywhere from 9-130 hours to get. I sure hope I'm not the alternative timeline, and Mojang isn't actively deciding to make the best selling game on the planet worse for every single playstyle.
@dstyKchp
@dstyKchp 6 ай бұрын
For the past 3 years it feels like mojang shows us something with genuine potential or something that's great and takes it away for a more mediocre item/feature no wonder a large portion of the community doesn't trust them
@GamerX-2000
@GamerX-2000 6 ай бұрын
Consistency is exactly what the community DOESNT want! The more consistent, the less options.
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 6 ай бұрын
redstone SHOULD be a barely-functional mess! every single block SHOULD have its own purpose!
@IRanOutOfPhrases
@IRanOutOfPhrases 6 ай бұрын
This isnt what consistency means at all
@JesusIsKingMyLord
@JesusIsKingMyLord 6 ай бұрын
Gospel of Jesus Christ John 3:16 For God So loved the world that he gave his only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not Perish but have Everlasting Life. Jesus Christ Died for the sin of the World, If you believe in ur heart God risen Jesus from the dead and confess him with ur mouth to people you shall be saved. Jesus said I Am The only way to heaven there is no other way! Repent of urs sins (Repent means Change ur Mind turning away from sinful things and being truly sorry for it.) trust Jesus and give ur life to him He Loves you cares about you more than anyone ever will! we are saved By Grace Trough Faith!,this is sin: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 3:23 For all have sined and felt short of the Glory of God. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:18‭-‬21‭, ‬23 KJV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 REPENT OR YOU WILL PERISH REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL GET RIGHT WITH GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST.///////
@kairon5249
@kairon5249 6 ай бұрын
see when mojang says "consistency" they dont mean "consistency with other blocks" but instead "consistency with BEDROCK EDITION." bedrock runs on 10 tps, so the effect that copper bulbs have that we saw in java isn't possible on bedrock. Instead of uprooting the underlying issue (10tps) mojang decides its a lot easier to simply remove the feature from java.
@NicknotNak
@NicknotNak 6 ай бұрын
Ive been saying that the only "style" of minecraft player the recent updates have been geared towards is the adventurers and builders. I was so happy to see the redstoners finally getting a good few features, and having one of the two revolutionary blocks: the first big redstone revolution since honey blocks, be nerfed to hell is heartbreaking. Let us little technical/industrial players have our fun too! Edit: im not saying that the updates have been _good_ but they are meant for builders and adventurers. Even if they fail to address problems or bloat their playstyle.
@heydud6777
@heydud6777 6 ай бұрын
honestly, as a builder, I find more decorative and building blocks to be a bit overwhelming. It's a lot easier to pick 5 blocks out of 100 than 5 out of 300. I find the new updates are more pivoted towards those who like adventures, which almost no one likes doing or gets bored after 10 minutes of doing. I think the problem is Mojang is running out of good ideas and is just throwing random crap out there whether people like it or not.
@scarecrowhobo
@scarecrowhobo 6 ай бұрын
​@@heydud6777ironic too considering they have more than enough ideas to make 3 updates worth
@nvvv_
@nvvv_ 6 ай бұрын
As an adventurer... Why bother exploring. The loot in most structures is pretty much worthless. Once you have a villager hall (or several now with the new changes) and some mob grinders, the game is a joke. There's no reason to adventure because after the mid game there's nothing left to really find.
@Myne1001
@Myne1001 6 ай бұрын
I'd disagree. Plenty of new mechanics for farmers to utilize in the last few updates. This is just a really bizarre blunder on Mojang's part.
@vanzwho854
@vanzwho854 6 ай бұрын
As a builder, the copper bulb is ugly I haven't thought of one use for it
@Tamarocker88
@Tamarocker88 6 ай бұрын
Mojang needs to stop making changes that make nobody happy. They don't satisfy the enthusiasts, they don't satisfy the casuals. They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side.
@T3n50r
@T3n50r 6 ай бұрын
"They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side." I think that is exactly what they're doing without saying it outright. People that go on KZbin and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game. They also take peoples low end/medium end set ups, consoles and so on into consideration. They may also see possibilities with the previous tick delay that can be abused before anyone else does, then do changes before anyone notices and leave it at that in a "whew, community is pissed but crisis averted" kind of way. I'm just theorizing now, but it doesn't make sense to spend money and time on "fixing" something the community is hype about if that isn't the case. Either that, or they do this and then change it back a month or two away from the update to be released to keep the hype and talk up for more free PR.
@s3rs312
@s3rs312 6 ай бұрын
@@T3n50r "People that go on KZbin and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game." I doubt that. I don't know where you are from, but Minecraft players I know have internet, and they watch KZbin. While KZbinrs and Enthusiasts are probably not the majority of the player base, they are the one who generates interest for the game. Casual players who play Minecraft will at some point go watch let's plays or tutorials on KZbin. These enthusiasts are the ones utilising the game features to create interesting builds, which helps make Minecraft more enjoyable. I can remember the feeling of watching a tutorial on how to make redstone doors and making one in my own world. [edit] the point is, take an interesting feature away, and the fun potential decreases for everyone, both enthusiast and casuals.
@NathanCotrill
@NathanCotrill 6 ай бұрын
5:26 You had the golden opportunity to Rick Roll us.
@horkah6966
@horkah6966 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: Doesn’t make enough changes in the updates Also Mojang: Changes every little thing in the updates making it worse
@toetruck1589
@toetruck1589 6 ай бұрын
a paraphrase from a review i watched on something unrelated "my problem isnt that its just shit, my problem is it goes out of its way to be shit, it wouldve taken less effort to make this... good than it wouldve to change it and make it shit"
@redwolftrash
@redwolftrash 6 ай бұрын
@@toetruck1589 what review did the quote come from?
@toetruck1589
@toetruck1589 6 ай бұрын
@@redwolftrash a review of the us remake of utopia
@aethersword7823
@aethersword7823 6 ай бұрын
community: please add vertical slabs mojang: but it harms creativity community: please bring back fireflies mojang: but it's poisonous to frogs irl community: please make iron rust like copper mojang: but each feature needs to be unique community: please keep the 1 tick copper bulb mojang: but it's inconsistent every time we want something, they have to make sure we don't get it, and give us the worst reasons for it
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 6 ай бұрын
dont forget community: please add backpacks we cant hold all these new items mojang: ok how about bundles that dont increase inventory space but do allow you to combine different items in one slot Like even when they *do* actually do something its in this wacky roundabout way that doesnt address the issue. Its the same thing with the mob votes really community: please add an item that can extend reach like the create mod mojang: ok, but YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 6 ай бұрын
this comment explains exactly why i hate mojang
@tweetugwe1270
@tweetugwe1270 6 ай бұрын
The firefly one confused me to no end. Cam't they just, program so the frogs don't eat the fireflies in the first place? Why is that even a valid reason?
@kalzen2712
@kalzen2712 6 ай бұрын
I've never understood why "Vertical Slabs Limit Creativity", Like commands allow you to literally create a whole game and features(Not to mention mods) so if slabs limit creativity then why do commands still exists?
@aegeangaming8280
@aegeangaming8280 6 ай бұрын
@@kalzen2712 i personally think they are saying that it harms the modding community because most of the things listed were added in mods, it sucks for vanilla players and mod creators who have to work on mods to add this stuff because of mojang's incompetence.
@willsith9762
@willsith9762 6 ай бұрын
"Ah fuck they're getting too creative with the new blocks, better dial that shit back!"
@ArchivesofCybertron
@ArchivesofCybertron 6 ай бұрын
I think regardless of being far more survival oriented, the copper bulb making a red stone contraption more simplified sounds appealing and could bring more people into red stone experimentation.
@_thirtyseven
@_thirtyseven 6 ай бұрын
I spent 6+ hours designing my first 2-block-wide hidden staircase that fits into a 12x5x5 space and has a symmetrical opening without the use of slime and honey blocks. I’m really proud of the fact that I was able to put the copper bulbs to good use, but now? Completely useless. But to be honest, I’m not at all that surprised Mojang pulled the plug. edit: redesigned it and it'll now work in the newer snapshots. I've also touched grass as well so yeah I'm not really annoyed at Mojang anymore.
@halfgoodexe
@halfgoodexe 6 ай бұрын
Mojave
@cor3po491
@cor3po491 6 ай бұрын
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@dukecocko215
@dukecocko215 6 ай бұрын
everyone keeps dying in mine craft this is a si op
@Egg_Maniac
@Egg_Maniac 6 ай бұрын
​@@cor3po491 we won't go quietly, Mojang can count on that.
@3riormrsup
@3riormrsup 6 ай бұрын
Please don't complain. You know fully well that Mojang changes a lot of stuff in the snapshots. That's on you for building in a constantly changing and unreleased update.
@CosyHamster
@CosyHamster 6 ай бұрын
"Copper Bulbs had added a lot to the game, but they could add a lot more, and some of the hype had been lost." Powerful words
@bentbliley
@bentbliley 6 ай бұрын
i'm not a redstoner but i do enjoy the idea of copper bulbs doing something special like 1 tick delays, especially with how they're obtained. it encourages survival redstoners to explore and sharpen their combat skills in order to obtain them. also, it's so nice seeing t flops getting smaller. i think it's gonna stay that way but i wanted to say something about that
@contomoth6025
@contomoth6025 6 ай бұрын
making the tick delay based on the oxidation level of the copper bulb would be a fun and engaging way of solving this, atleast imo
@yinleeboon5997
@yinleeboon5997 6 ай бұрын
Maybe the tick delay should depend on its oxidation state (from 0 with no oxidation to 3 when max oxidation)
@joda7697
@joda7697 6 ай бұрын
I'd honestly prefer if it had no delay for the first 3 oxidization states, but the old 1 gt delay when fully oxidized. That way, contraptions that require tight timings (so the ones that use the 1 gt delay) also cause less light update lag, due to the lower emitted light level. But the idea to tie the delay to oxidization is genius, they should totally do that!
@legominifig101
@legominifig101 6 ай бұрын
That’s a really creative and great idea but mojang would probably never even take a second look at their own community❤
@aquaticengineer
@aquaticengineer 6 ай бұрын
Actually a cool idea
@Engine1988
@Engine1988 6 ай бұрын
Now THAT is a good idea! It already changes light level due to oxidization, after all!
@derianvandalsen
@derianvandalsen 6 ай бұрын
Quite a few people here came up with this compromise!
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq 6 ай бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time Mojang made some god awful decision for this game, I'd probably be able to afford another copy of Minecraft, which is a lot, and is pretty damn sad.
@Engine1988
@Engine1988 6 ай бұрын
If I had a quarter for each time, I could buy the Lionel Triplex!
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 6 ай бұрын
mojang doesnt deserve praise for what they do tbh
@MaximusChivus
@MaximusChivus 6 ай бұрын
​@@bruhgod123 My greatest praise is at least they're better than valve and blizzard kinda in some ways
@bruhgod123
@bruhgod123 6 ай бұрын
@@MaximusChivus valve isnt even that bad compared to other corporations
@blef861
@blef861 6 ай бұрын
​@@MaximusChivusThe bar is really low
@bogdanbarbu363
@bogdanbarbu363 6 ай бұрын
The proper solution is NOT to revert the copper bulb but to have the amount of delay be based on the oxidation level. I would propose 0/1/2/3 gt and it somewhat fits in thematically as well because oxidation does have an effect on conductivity in the real world. The thing is, even game tick delays help to avoid synchronization issues in a lot of circuits using T flip-flops and binary counters that would otherwise require workarounds. Odd game ticks are a bit inconvenient to get in some situations and the old copper bulb was very useful here. So I only see this as a way to solve everyone's problems.
@mane42
@mane42 6 ай бұрын
Let us raise an army and make as much noise as physically possible. Not offensive noise, because that will go nowhere. Instead, we need to make noise like "Hey, this was a really cool feature and we want it back!" They can't ignore the majority of their community forever.
@Tasorius
@Tasorius 6 ай бұрын
Everyone wanted sideways slabs, and Mojang put it on a list of blocks never to add to the game. You are underestimating the madness and stupidity of Mojang...
@doctorgrubious7725
@doctorgrubious7725 6 ай бұрын
@@Tasoriuswe need a IED producer 💀💀💀
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 6 ай бұрын
I mean, review bombing works. Though google doesn't show minecraft's reviews, so we can't really do that.
@turdboi420-69
@turdboi420-69 6 ай бұрын
It really felt like they saw that it was instantly loved and they were like "This is not possible... Nerf those mfs"
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 6 ай бұрын
Mojang is allergic to players having fun.
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 6 ай бұрын
Its almost like Mojang gets a kick out of pissing off or alienating their playerbase. They just cant help themselves. They just keep doing it and its exhausting at this point.
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 6 ай бұрын
@@JackWilke what?
@wrathnmalice
@wrathnmalice 6 ай бұрын
@@raxcentalruthenta1456 its the average youtube bot, just ignore them
@raxcentalruthenta1456
@raxcentalruthenta1456 6 ай бұрын
@@wrathnmalice ah okay. Guess that explains why the reply felt like it lacked context.
@Tocinos
@Tocinos 6 ай бұрын
​@@raxcentalruthenta1456they got yeeted 🧑🏼‍⚖️
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 6 ай бұрын
Or it’s just a sign of how entitled and irritable said playerbase is
@juciymiddle3102
@juciymiddle3102 6 ай бұрын
0:31 YOU CANT RELEASE IT, YOU MIGHT POISION THE FROGS
@oddbluedragon
@oddbluedragon 6 ай бұрын
if only mojang devs listen to their community like how terraria devs does, im sure minecraft will be awesome
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 6 ай бұрын
RIGHT? Terraria is still getting updates because everyone loves terraria, and relogic can't bring themselves to abandon it.
@GipsyD29
@GipsyD29 6 ай бұрын
If the copper bulbs were always this way (0 tick delay?) to begin with, most people won't bat an eye. But since they made it how it was (1 tick delay), players got a taste of what that feels like. And a lot of people like it. And now it's taken away. And people riot. Mojang aimed a gun at their own the foot for making the bulbs 1 tick delay to begin with. And with this snapshot, they've shot themselves on the foot. Like giving a candy to a child, then swiping it after the child had a lick. Of course it would cry.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 6 ай бұрын
And as well all know fandoms are very much like children.
@rheatinacreatishia7636
@rheatinacreatishia7636 6 ай бұрын
@@Yipper64 We are all children of God
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 6 ай бұрын
@@rheatinacreatishia7636 Ok I make a lot of religious comments so when I saw this notification I naturally assumed it was in one of those comment sections where I brought it up... but no freaking block game. Yes true, but how is this relevant?
@rheatinacreatishia7636
@rheatinacreatishia7636 6 ай бұрын
@@Yipper64 Think about it
@Driplim
@Driplim 6 ай бұрын
This reminds me of how parity (for the most part) is features being removed from one game to match the other. I think mojang should embrace the fact that java and bedrock are different games.
@uponeric36
@uponeric36 6 ай бұрын
I truly believe they're prepping for Minecraft 2. Every other Minecraft branded game as flopped under the Minecraft IP. They need a new, killer release in their core franchise... aka Minecraft 2. This could explain why features come so slow to Java. They wanna wrap up and leave the game in a legacy state where it can basically be supported by modders, who have a more efficient development environment anyways, whilst they focus development on MC 2. If they added too much to Java now, they'll have less new features on release for Minecraft 2. Imo, they have to be withholding. because making these things isn't magic. The Minecraft director should have a clear vision forward for the game and their tools have been maturing for a decade. The art isn't a limiting factor at 16x16, and it's not like every mob is some completely new system that should take months to test and develop. Basically, they have no barriers, the game was designed intentionally to be easy to add onto, yet development is slow as hell. It's artificially and intentionally limited.
@fujinshu
@fujinshu 6 ай бұрын
They're preparing for the moment where Minecraft Java slowly gets erased and shafted to the legacy channels, then Mojang becomes further and further assimilated into Xbox Game Studios, to the point where it will become wholly published by Xbox Game Studios and the only remnants will be the community and PR arms of Mojang.
@AtomicRobloxProductions
@AtomicRobloxProductions 6 ай бұрын
Then people wonder why everyone hates/thinks shitrock is an inferior version lmao
@xenird
@xenird 6 ай бұрын
@@AtomicRobloxProductions lmao true
@Rikonardo
@Rikonardo 6 ай бұрын
​@@uponeric36 while getting Java Edition deprecated would be the best outcome for us, modders, (because we finally wouldn't have to deal with Mojang breaking stuff each update and making code uglier every year), I can hardly believe they will do this any time soon. This would basically require them to write a new game entirely from scratch, because Bedrock Edition has a lot of fundamental problems, and there is no way Java Edition players would voluntarily move to Minecraft 2 without a full (or at least major) rewrite. And leaving a big part of Java Edition player base on legacy modders-maintained version isn't in Mojang's interest, because this would significantly reduce hype from official updates, which is currently the main source of new players who buy the game. This may also lead to Mojang losing a lot of control they recently acquired in Java Edition (like chat reporting and other stuff), because without the need to keep compatibility with new official releases, community would probably start developing a fork based on older game version (as most of the updates starting with 1.13 traded a lot of optimizations for more readable and convenient codebase, leading to huge performance decrease, which is why almost all non-SMP servers still run pre-1.13 releases under the hood). And having to do a big rewrite raises the question, would it even be profitable? Yes, not having to backport every change from Java to Bedrock would probably cut the development cost, but fixing all Bedrock issues would require a lot of work, and consequentially, money. And giving Java Edition entirely into community hands would probably mean increased spendings on content moderation, because, you know, Mojang needs to keep "caring about their brand image" (aka being assholes) by DMCAing "non-kids-friendly" content and doing other stupid things
@Kiba114
@Kiba114 5 ай бұрын
i was scared megalovania was gonna play
@gecfes
@gecfes 6 ай бұрын
My issue with the past few updates is that they really don't impact my playthroughs at all. The new biomes are cool, but I rarely ever find them, let alone look for them or gather the native woods. The new creatures are always appreciated, but I've never found nor looked for a Sniffer. I do think that the new deep dark content is pretty cool, but I generally avoid the underground cities because you really only get swift sneak and enchanted apples down there, and i can do without both of those. Even with new tales and trails update I didn't know that they added new ruins until quiet recently and I certainty don't feel like I'm missing anything. They need a dimensional revamp update for the end, and maybe even add a new dimension as part of the ancient cities huge portal frame, because once I beat the dragon and wither, I'd like more to do than just expand my base.
@nade5557
@nade5557 5 ай бұрын
New generated structures, more in depth ai behaviour, some rare minibosses like a kraken that spawns in water or something (make the trident worth getting perhaps), another dimension would be great, same for an end revamp because that place is boring. To me at least in survival it just needs more to do and see. And even if you run across something rare like a woodland mansion or a temple its boring to clear and not rewarding. The infinite world of Minecraft is a mile wide and an inch deep, when you've seen it once you've seen it all. When you've beat it once you've beat it all. Sometimes the game feels like a chore to me in a way it never used to, it's stale and needs some new ideas. Proper ones rather than just a mob vote. A rather long winded way to say definitely, I agree
@aa1_scratch_tutorials202
@aa1_scratch_tutorials202 6 ай бұрын
mojang: *adds something new* everyone: *likes it* mojang: *NO*
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser 6 ай бұрын
Nope
@Shy_002
@Shy_002 6 ай бұрын
@@CheeseMiserHey kid go back to sucking on your pacifier or add an actual meaningful argument other than “No”
@slava6105
@slava6105 6 ай бұрын
23w47a: Sorry, our debug-build commands (namely `tick`) were accidentally added to the last few snapshots. We hope none of the players were distracted by them nor experienced any discomfort caused by our mistkae. We are *really excited* to bring back the usual player experience.
@tachtra994
@tachtra994 6 ай бұрын
Was that the actual wording they used?
@am_Nein
@am_Nein 6 ай бұрын
"we are really excited to bring back the usual player experience - that is, disappointing, lackluster and frustrating."
@frankiecoss7141
@frankiecoss7141 6 ай бұрын
Having the timer (aka the bulb) being condensed into a single block also means less block updates and thus significantly reduces server load. The impact may not be too apparent initially, but for every circuit that you add with an independent clock the difference becomes very noticeable. This is one of the limitations of making circuits in minecraft and why condensing redstone circuits as much as possible is important.
@_Tzer
@_Tzer 6 ай бұрын
the addition of the crafter has me convinced that modern vanilla versions are just modded versions from 5 updates ago
@tubasil8786
@tubasil8786 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s too much. I started playing on 1.7 again because it stopped feeling like minecraft
@hioman
@hioman 6 ай бұрын
Mojang trying not to make the worst possible decisions challenge: impossible
@colincayden2068
@colincayden2068 6 ай бұрын
They ***NEED*** to change this back, it's such a cool feature of one tick delay rather than two!
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser 6 ай бұрын
No
@dumb_hd
@dumb_hd 6 ай бұрын
Yeah
@nyalan8385
@nyalan8385 6 ай бұрын
@@CheeseMiserwhy
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser 6 ай бұрын
@@nyalan8385 because yall acting like children, pouting to try and get your way. You all make hating mojang your personality, such immature brats
@Lodada
@Lodada 6 ай бұрын
2:27 the counter is backwards (binary reads right to left)
@ForgotMyPasswd000
@ForgotMyPasswd000 6 ай бұрын
The most significant bit is on the right side of up counters using d type flip flops
@brevortofficial
@brevortofficial 6 ай бұрын
5:26 Genuinely surprised this isn't a rickroll.
@chillbizz74
@chillbizz74 6 ай бұрын
Mojang has transformed into a "AAA" game company so they only fix stuff that doesn't need to be fixed and ends up breaking them for absolutely no reason
@duckgirl6792
@duckgirl6792 6 ай бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@eliescobis9922
@eliescobis9922 6 ай бұрын
yes
@amatoyoichi8468
@amatoyoichi8468 6 ай бұрын
Riot.in general
@yuremarodriguezglobe654
@yuremarodriguezglobe654 6 ай бұрын
@@JackWilkewho asked + upload videos
@andyfire0779
@andyfire0779 6 ай бұрын
You mean Microjang, right? Or... Mojasoft
@lcs128
@lcs128 6 ай бұрын
I personally don't use redstone but imagine the cool stuff redstoners could have made with this
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser 6 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️ the block still is there and does the most important thing. Such an uninformed sheep
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 6 ай бұрын
im personally really glad they removed it
@Yoob-yh5gb
@Yoob-yh5gb 6 ай бұрын
@@kelpermoon23why? Theres literally no upside and a ton of downside. All mojang did was show us a new, exciting, different block, then say, “no no, we’re making this less unique. You’ll thank us later.”
@kelpermoon23
@kelpermoon23 6 ай бұрын
@@Yoob-yh5gb performance
@Yoob-yh5gb
@Yoob-yh5gb 6 ай бұрын
@@kelpermoon23 counterpoint, its harder on your computer to do two things at one then one after another.
@Krystalchan2009
@Krystalchan2009 6 ай бұрын
As far as the crafter... I think its *fine* on the new system. Its likely to stop some contraption from spewing things everywhere and making more lag. Personally I think the copper bulb's tick rate should be a server or config setting. I know other games (Such as Space Engineers) allow you to enable "Experimental Mode" at any time, which enables a lot of features that can cause issues but give more control over the game.
@itswindyyy
@itswindyyy 4 ай бұрын
SPAC ENGINERS MENTIONED!!!!1!!!!1!!11!
@Sans_The_Skeleton
@Sans_The_Skeleton 6 ай бұрын
7:03 Okay who the fuck snitched?
@geokou7645
@geokou7645 6 ай бұрын
What if we just… mass report it as a bug…
@lithium475
@lithium475 6 ай бұрын
exactly
@Timer102
@Timer102 6 ай бұрын
Hmmmm I like it
@plutonicattic7995
@plutonicattic7995 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: makes bot to auto mark anything related to copper bulb tick speed "works as intended" because its mojang
@Archrid
@Archrid 6 ай бұрын
@@plutonicattic7995 So you start rephrasing the reports so they don't get caught by the bot ;)
@ssjcrafter8842
@ssjcrafter8842 6 ай бұрын
@@Archrid the bulbs of copper copper_bulbs block with id ...
@PhoenixSC
@PhoenixSC 6 ай бұрын
Looks like we already have a snapshot! Let's see what's happened... www.twitch.tv/phoenixsclive
@GoIdskuIl
@GoIdskuIl 6 ай бұрын
Hello
@bottelofwater
@bottelofwater 6 ай бұрын
Oh no not the bots edit: Nevermind?????
@Tocinos
@Tocinos 6 ай бұрын
​@@InstagramUser2🧑🏼‍⚖️see ya never
@duckgirl6792
@duckgirl6792 6 ай бұрын
“5 replies” what??
@Tocinos
@Tocinos 6 ай бұрын
​@@duckgirl6792🤭
@moohooman
@moohooman 6 ай бұрын
I saw everyone mad online, but I haven't been keeping up with the news. I got so excited as someone who messes with redstone watching the first half of the video and had so many ideas with that wave machine. I really hope they bring back the one tick. It genuinely would have gotten me back into the game.
@itswindyyy
@itswindyyy 4 ай бұрын
Me too. I play a 4 to 5 year old something version of Minecraft for PS4, if these bulbs were 1 tick, I'd might play the new updates and get into redstone.
@fireandiceforever975
@fireandiceforever975 6 ай бұрын
What I find funny is the fact that once 1.21 is out, the first mod/datapack that's gonna be uploaded is gonna be a reversion of these blocks back to their original functionality.
@phofers
@phofers 2 ай бұрын
Not with a datapack unfortunatly, but I'm sure it's going to be a mod! It might even be the Carpet mod that does this, and that's developed by gnembon!
@Pr0_G4m3r.
@Pr0_G4m3r. 6 ай бұрын
I feel like they could revert the copper bulbs and still keep consistency if they had a logical explanation, like for example: all redstone components that use copper have 1 game tick delays, which would have some logic to it bc of its irl use cases
@durandle9226
@durandle9226 6 ай бұрын
the problem at least in part is bedrock redstone ONLY functions on 10 ticks per second unlike on java that only updates on 10 ticks per second aka the pinned comment function scrapped for parity i guess we are lucky they did not just remove quasi-connectivity
@xenird
@xenird 6 ай бұрын
@@durandle9226 nobody cares about bedrock anyway
@joshuasitzema9920
@joshuasitzema9920 6 ай бұрын
​@@xenirdpeople on console who can't afford a half decent PC do. So... shush
@xenird
@xenird 6 ай бұрын
@@joshuasitzema9920 A pc half the price of your console will run Minecraft
@lordsiergiej9685
@lordsiergiej9685 6 ай бұрын
As someone who enjoys music on Minecraft I welcomed copper bulb with a lot of hope. And that presentation of Chopin was exactly what I wanted in Minecraft without data packs
@Your_AverageHuman
@Your_AverageHuman 6 ай бұрын
Exactly 100 likes and no replys? Ill fix that.
@lordsiergiej9685
@lordsiergiej9685 6 ай бұрын
@@Your_AverageHuman thank you
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Pistons. When they were introduced they allowed for a lot og contraptions than even to this day are not possible: they could move pressure-plates. That was great together with minecarts and rails.
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 6 ай бұрын
Yea, but the game also was running like absolute crap and servers simply couldn't keep up. Single player was no issue, but seeing as how a rather immense amount of its popularity is online play, it is indeed a factor. With that said, I have no idea of the performance impact of the copper bulb thing, but the out of sync, quicker delay certainly would have an impact of some sort.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 6 ай бұрын
@@someone-ji2zb "but the out of sync, quicker delay certainly would have an impact of some sort." Only as far as people would be using it for contraptions that are otherwise impossible to create. But inherently it does not matter if it is 1,2,3, or 50 ticks delay - the performance-cost is the same.
@Lisek_guy2
@Lisek_guy2 6 ай бұрын
I hope im not the only one that thought that the noteblocks would be a rickroll at 5:22
@44Hd22
@44Hd22 6 ай бұрын
3:14 I don’t really do redstone that much but the copper bulb with a one tick delay looks so fun to use. If they fix that I would maybe do redstone.
@notbobsaget5192
@notbobsaget5192 6 ай бұрын
im not a redstoner but they tend to be my favorite MC KZbin channels. I am pissed off for them, All the cool crazy stuff they could have done. lost. I was really excited to see what the technical redstoners were going to pull off.
@kieranbishop1481
@kieranbishop1481 6 ай бұрын
ever since that update my desktop audio gets erased from existence and requires a restart for it to return
@MrBelles104
@MrBelles104 6 ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, before copper bulbs were in the game, weren't pistons able to create the same effect for noteblocks or were they used differently?
@fluffypawninja7636
@fluffypawninja7636 6 ай бұрын
on the plus side, there's most likely going to be a mod somewhere that either reverts the change or adds a new block with the *sole purpose* to interact with redstone on a 1tick delay
@troll_486
@troll_486 6 ай бұрын
That's not a plus side >Mod still needs to be developed >you need extra effort to put it in >its foreign anyway and locks out vanilla people of it >Mod would revert the state of the game that would be considered "normal' so we gain something but that's not a plus, that's back to neutral
@MaxerV19
@MaxerV19 6 ай бұрын
You mispelled that
@troll_486
@troll_486 6 ай бұрын
@@MaxerV19 ☝🤓
@MaxerV19
@MaxerV19 6 ай бұрын
@@troll_486 😟
@fluffypawninja7636
@fluffypawninja7636 6 ай бұрын
@@troll_486 yea i shouldn't have said plus side- admittedly, i was perhaps a bit too tired to be writing comments yesterday, but i did anyway so...
@SirDoodicus
@SirDoodicus 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes we definitely don’t want more unique ways to use blocks in the block game, we just want nothing to change especially with “major updates” from the smol indie company.
@starlitstreet
@starlitstreet 6 ай бұрын
thank you for making a video about this. I know mojang has listened to your videos a lot so the fact that you made a video on it might actually give us a chance of it being reverted
@SirTriton
@SirTriton 6 ай бұрын
I was originally a bit confused because you where naming so many good things you can do with the copper bulb, and I didn’t know the contents of the snapshot. Then you explained that they changed it and now i get it. Why would they change that, if it had such unique properties that people could build cool stuff like music pieces, sand waves and rotating lights. Isn’t that just stimulating more creativity ? Isn’t that the whole point ?
@Annoyance1969
@Annoyance1969 6 ай бұрын
4:44 it was possible before to make 1gt delays with scaffolding or leaves, but copper bulbs are just much better at that. Also the bug report is actually a false report that somehow got accepted. The copper bulb will likely be fixed, but it bug report called out inconsistency between the dispenser/dropper and the crafter. They are completely different blocks, and work in different ways. There's no need for consistency between them, but if they were to change the crafter, then maybe make a good change like making it q-c powerable or changing it to ss15
@ignatius1078
@ignatius1078 6 ай бұрын
I have an idea. they should make the unoxidised copper bulb to have 0 tick delay and as they oxidise they get 1+ tick delay every oxidation level.
@SethbotStar
@SethbotStar 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't a 0 tick delay literally just crash the game?
@JamUsagi
@JamUsagi 6 ай бұрын
@@SethbotStar There are already a few ways to get 0-tick pulses which are potentially more system-intensive than the bulbs would be, and the game handles them fine unless you do crazy crap with them.
@Mad-Lad-Chad
@Mad-Lad-Chad 6 ай бұрын
@@SethbotStar Apparently not, like shown in the video 0 tick is what they are being changed to.
@akeem2983
@akeem2983 6 ай бұрын
​@@SethbotStar No, and normal redstone wires also have a 0 tick delay, just like copper bulbs today. Redstoners frequently do work with sub-tick delay, caused not by an actual delay, but by the fact that while the game processes redstone, different blocks of redstone mechanisms are processed in sort of a queue. And that's why the game doesn't crash all of the time when we light up a wire with 0-tick delay - in code it has strict order that the game follows to process redstone, so there's no situations when game can't decide what to do (if there were, redstone would have been pretty crash-inducing)
@Destroyer94100
@Destroyer94100 6 ай бұрын
I can see why the redstone community is pissed. They could’ve had a unique block but mojang decided to make it boring instead.
@snudget
@snudget 6 ай бұрын
I knew the redstone part about the copper bulb, but not their use in the trial chambers
@dowen01
@dowen01 6 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think the change to a crafter is not a bad thing it was a little bit insane how quick it would go, but the copper bulb if they don't revert it it's such a missed opportunity and I don't think anyone's gonna care other than the technical community so you wouldn't even be upsetting the casual player. It would be nice to get a "no sorry we wont change it back because..... it would break this that and the other...."
@cowhead2856
@cowhead2856 6 ай бұрын
I think why people are upset about the crafter is because it happened at the same time as the copper bulb changes
@GatheredStorm_YT
@GatheredStorm_YT 6 ай бұрын
Well the technical community was a lot more upset because they were also helpful for the same reasons as the copper bulb such as with things like binary counters or super precise counters as a general
@CheeseMiser
@CheeseMiser 6 ай бұрын
But 90% of the complaints are from people who wont ever use the copper bulb
@ryuined
@ryuined 6 ай бұрын
i personally dont see the point of the crafter change but yeah it's not important imo. if farmers want faster auto-crafting they can just use multiple so it's pretty negligible. the copper bulb change tho, like bruh
@cheddarsunchipsyes8144
@cheddarsunchipsyes8144 6 ай бұрын
@@ryuinedthe crafter could have been used for for way more stuff besides crafting. There are KZbin vids about making super accurate clocks with it and stuff, so much potential
@HelloIAmAnExist
@HelloIAmAnExist 6 ай бұрын
7:45 correction: It is now more bulky and difficult than it needs to be. It wasn't revolutionary because it introduced a new possiblity, you could get 1 tick delays through leafstone and scaffolding (and probably more I can't think of rn) but it just made it much more of a hassle than this 1 block solution
@zacvh
@zacvh 6 ай бұрын
Frr
@zacvh
@zacvh 6 ай бұрын
I mean humans are more advanced when we make smaller transistors so it’s the same concept here I think
@user-mv2iu5pd3v
@user-mv2iu5pd3v 6 ай бұрын
5:34 i didnt expect phenix to have a taste in classical music
@RealValkor
@RealValkor 6 ай бұрын
I think the 0 tick delay for bulbs could be better for making microprocessors in minecraft (given their lack of activation delay), aside of that I'm pretty neutral since I haven't tinkered with the snapshots yet (might wanna wait for the update release before starting a huge project just to be ruined by a change like this).
@gamerpedia1535
@gamerpedia1535 6 ай бұрын
It depends. The way processors work in Minecraft is by designing basic logic gates and combining them together. Considering the fact that 0-tick logic gates already exist, I don't think it's too out of the realm to say not much would happen besides making things more compact.
@Kolateak_
@Kolateak_ 6 ай бұрын
Mojang: * adds good feature * Also Mojang: Whoops * removes it *
@someguywithatophat7599
@someguywithatophat7599 6 ай бұрын
5:40 I was so scared of it being a fucking rick roll, but when I heard the song it was so nice and more relaxing than I usually find it lol :3
@pranjalrath
@pranjalrath 5 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@okaberintorouwithagun
@okaberintorouwithagun 6 ай бұрын
Wow this new copper cave generation sure would be the perfect place for i don't know a copper based mob maybe even a golem
@cataclysmi
@cataclysmi 2 ай бұрын
I WANT THE BUTTON PUSHER MOB!!!!!!
@iron4537
@iron4537 6 ай бұрын
5:34 rlly wasnt expecting the best nocturne ever from mr chopin
@nutzerlossprivataccount6586
@nutzerlossprivataccount6586 6 ай бұрын
Im not a Redstoner, but having Odd-Delays is an Addition that i like. Like the smooth Sand-Circle is so fancy, i can understand that it angers many People. And it makes it easier with the Music-Timing like you shown, i know that you had to build a big Contraption to make such a Timing, or cannot do it. (I cant remember exactly, but i remember that i skipped making Music with Redstone, because of the Timing Issues.)
@cloudedarctrooper
@cloudedarctrooper 6 ай бұрын
I seriously hope people make a datapack to revert these changes
@calstar0416
@calstar0416 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Mumbo cameo!
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles 6 ай бұрын
I think it makes sense to change the crafter to dispenser speed, since it uses a dispenser. But there needs to be a way to 1-tick redstone. If they want the copper bulb to be consistent with redstone lamps, they need another way to get redstone onto one tick
@namenloserflo
@namenloserflo 6 ай бұрын
It's possible but less compact. (2 scaffoldings, one on a trapdoor: if you open the trapdoor the scaffolding changes to it's floating state in 1 game tick)
@namenloserflo
@namenloserflo 6 ай бұрын
The copper bulb block would be soo much more convenient though
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