Everyone Says You Can't Use This Tool On Bowls___But WHY ???

I think many turners just repeat the saying_'you can't use spindle gouge on bowls ' without explaining which spindle gouge and why....
So hopefully this video will clear that up once and for all
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy

[@paulevans180]

Nice explanation of what you are doing and great grain pattern which looks like a beach with it running to the skyline

[@jmselvon1]

hello from belgium, thanks a lot Tomi, for this video

[@donk7435]

Keep up the good videos. I wish you were my neighbor. From NE mountaíns of rural Washington State USA. From a fellow woodworker for a least 50 years.

[@kevingeaney7741]

Another wonder video Tomi . I have one of these continental gouges for a long time and never mastered it, now I'll try again. Thanks!

[@TheRekitter]

I can't understand why there are only 51K subs! This man is a genius with the tools he has. You are truly admired, Sir. If I were not already subscribed, I would have just now. Thank you for your respect of nature letting the bird out as soon as possible.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank You sir for kind words and support

[@stevehood10]

The Australian turner you're thinking of is 'Robbo' Robertson and yes it's quite a dramatic video. All his video's are good too, up there with yours & Richards. Another good video Tomislav looking forward to the final tour of your new shed.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Steve, and thank You for thinking of the turner I had in mind. There is a little setback on shop progress which I'll cover in few days update video... But I like good challenge 😀

[@paultant6741]

Another great video Tomislav. Do have a couple of continental gouges but still i don't think i will use them for bowl work

[@kenvasko2285]

Thanks for giving the continental spindle gouge some love. Most starter bowl gouge kits we can buy in the US have continental gouges the nobody knows how to use...until now. Thanks.

[@karlio3368]

Tomi, all of your videos are good, but this one is outstanding! Very informative and concise. Thank you

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much

[@kreech68]

You are teaching me (us!) so much! You've inspired me to do some free-hand sharpening, as well as convincing me to resurrect some tools that I own, but don't use very often (I have bought 2 lathes, and both came with lots of tools, most of which I don't use "efficiently")

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much,glad to help out ☺️

[@missteeturns]

Since seeing you and Richard Raffan using a spindle gouge for the outside of bowls I've started using my 1/2 " spindle gouge on bowls. However I stiil use my bowl gouge on the inside. Thank for all your videos, I've learnt quite a lot.

[@jrneff9773]

Richard Raffan i watch him he said he is retired and sold most of his tools etc. what the hell plant did he have turning wood ?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much 🤗

[@JOHNSmith-pn6fj]

Thank you for that thorough demonstration on the Continental Spindle Gouge. I have seen a few other wood turners on KZbin use them. They never pointed out the differences of the tool. But I did notice that the Continental Spindle Gouge looked different than a regular spindle gouge. Looks like a very handy tool once it is mastered, Cool little Bowl as well.

[@alainnoel2198]

As always, your explanations are exceptional demonstrations of what to do and not to do. I always learn listening to these videos of you. Thanks

[@jimgardner5410]

Tomi, I have been looking for a video like this for months so thank you for posting it in your usual calm manner. Also thanks for posting things while getting your new workshop ready.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

No problem,thank you very much for watching

[@AlienLeader4]

Awesome explanation of the difference in the tools on the market. I believe this subject is not covered enough on You Tube by turners or hand tool users. Keep up the awesome work. 👽

[@MarklTucson]

Excellent explanation. You and Richard have gone out of your way to put the idea that spindle gouges cannot be used for face work to rest. Very interesting to see the use of the Continental Gouge and, again, very good explanation of how to stay out of trouble using one.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you sir, As always for watching and support what I do

[@jayscott306]

I received a very interesting 1/2" carbon steel continental with a used set of eight different tools. I had fun with it. But once it lost it's edge I put it away. I wouldn't mind having a modern version. Thanks for linking that incredible documentary. I could only understand a bit with my limited German, but it was in the watching of the work you learned the most. Still, I'd enjoy knowing more of the conversations between craftsmen.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Jay

[@robertreihsen9096]

Such fun to watch!

[@jean-louishoules5198]

Thanks Tom for this excellent study , really interesting about practice with former turning gouges. 😉👍

[@donk7435]

A grand vidio! I have been using spindle gouges for bowls etc. I did not know or have anything else. So it worked for me by trual and error. Then i watched videos about bowl gouges and thought i was doing everything wrong. HA! Now i dont feel bad. So your video has helped me a lot. You are a fine instructor. I now have more info in my bag of tricks. Thank you my friend.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you sir

[@jimneely4527]

Thanks for the nice tips in using this style gouge.

[@jobyshaw5459]

Just because you can doesn’t mean the chatter in that thing doesn’t give me flash backs to my first year of turning 😂

[@brettgl21]

I am of the opinion that you use whatever tool works for you. I have been told that I have to turn beads with a gouge. I turn beads mostly with my point tool. Always more than one way to do something. Great video my friend.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

That is beauty of turning, it can be done with so many different ways

[@nemoemanon6679]

I have a set of “continental spindle gouges” and use them as roughing gouges as well. I don’t even own a roughing gouge.

[@johnnyb95678]

Thank you for another excellent video! Thank you very much!

[@clarencegreen3071]

Excellent video! Good explanations and good camera work as well.

[@stevebrown822]

Awesome Video!

[@arnoldbeauchamp8390]

Excellent video ! Like the way you explain how to use tools .

[@nicholasguymer3471]

If it's sharp and I can manoeuvre it into where I want to cut I end up using anything that does the job. I've had grown men in tears watching me turn 😂

[@demonicsquid7217]

It was the bread knife turning that did it...

[@nicholasguymer3471]

@@demonicsquid7217 🤣

[@StephanieElizabethMann]

So many things I am learning. Thank you.

[@jorisdemoel3821]

Very informative and instructive. Thanks!

[@cobberpete1]

Thanks Tomislav. I have a Continental and will give it a go.

[@user-iy3vx2xf8l]

Intermittently you seem to have crown tool that here in the UK I have never seen for sale.

[@lorriebuxton2041]

You answered several questions for me thankyou

[@kaybee2300]

Another excellent instructional video

[@908woodturner]

Excellent video, I learned a lot. Thank you

[@kreech68]

Thanks!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you so very much 😀

[@alandisomma-od5fz]

I have a few of the continental spindle gouges that I inherited from my father in law. They were probably bought with the old Atlas lathe back in the 40’s. Buck Brothers brand. I now have a few Savanah and Greenlee gouges the I love. I also have three from a set that are real cheap but are HSS?

[@dennismcneill6829]

A Good woodturner should be open to all the tools available and learn how to safely use them!

[@jrneff9773]

this is where i keep getting moon rockets at 26.48 use a scarp instead of bowl gouge all the way? thank you for this info. cant wait for the new shop updates

[@Jord032]

I am unbelievably early 😂 I’m excited to watch this as I like my bigger continental gouge on smaller bowls.

[@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound]

Well explained and shown. Thank you

[@markduggan3451]

In the hands of a great turner, then yes, it can be used, but in my hands. Not even a little. 😊

[@kalmanszeles8666]

hi Tomy ,great job

[@jimgill1105]

This is an excellent instructional video Tomislav😃

[@peterbucy1846]

There are situations where my Continental spindle gouges are a slightly better choice when doing spindle work. There isn't anything that I can do with these gouges that I can't do with deep fluted spindle gouges. However, I would never trust a Continental spindle gouge on the inside of a bowl. These gouges are thinner and the tangs weaker than deep fluted spindle gouges. I use bowl gouges for a lot of spindle work cuts. My 40/40 and 50 degree grind bowl gouges can get in a lot of tight details, admittedly not as well as a spindle gouge. My Ellsworth grind bowl gouge takes deep cuts on spindle work and produces a very nice finish too. Richard Raffan has alluded to the lower cost of spindle gouges as a reason for using them instead of bowl gouges. Unless you don't have access to heavier duty bowl gouges, I don't see any advantage to using a Continental Bowl Gouge on facework when there are other options. Nevertheless, Tomislav makes great videos and I certainly appreciate the time and effort that he takes to bring such a wide range of very concise and informative videos to the woodturning community.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Sir

[@billstoffle7383]

Great info thanks

[@SuperCruelworld]

thanks

[@jamiemitchell5132]

Hello really enjoy watching your videos great for information if you don't mind answering a question for me I see you use vicmarc chucks can the jaws especially the shark jaws fit onto other chucks do the have a raised or rebate part on the or are they just flat if you could help me with some information it would be very appreciated Thanks Jamie

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Hello Jamie, to my knowledge jaws for vicmark 100 chuck will only fit on VM100 and VM90 lever chuck from Vicmark.... Also VM120 chuck and jaws only can be used on bigger VM150 chuck...I think they can't go or fit to any other manufacturer.

[@jamiemitchell5132]

Thanks for your advice looks like I will be getting a vicmark chuck then after watching your video I can see the advantage of using them thanks Jamie

[@stephenmcfadyen1385]

Tomislav, this is a very informative video and thank you for that. I have been trying to find a supplier in Australia for a continental gouge, no one here seems to want to sell them. I have a very old Robert Sorby one but the steel is soft and it does not hold an edge. can you still get them in Europe?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Ohh yes,they are still common although not popular.... Try find crown supply in Australia or contact them direct.

[@stephenmcfadyen1385]

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you very much, I have found some, but it seems no one likes them, so I have ordered two

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

@@stephenmcfadyen1385 and hopefully at a good price since they are not popular as they used to be

[@stephenmcfadyen1385]

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Tomislav, they were roughly two times more expensive than the standard gouge, aside from the poor steel I really enjoy using the one I have. I can't wait until you get to sell your refiner scraper.

[@JLang-bn3hs]

As always, a great video. I still wish I could get some of my Bois D’Arc bowl blanks to you. Love Crown tools!

[@kalmanszeles8666]

from Budapest

[@ronkiskowoodart9680]

I have three “continental gouges” I rarely use them but they do come in handy Hey Tomislav which part of Croatia do you live in. I have friends from Split.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

I'm from Zagreb, Split is around 4-5 hours away😄....

[@ronkiskowoodart9680]

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning thanks!

[@gregdownunderinOz]

Great video tommi. I think that you expelled the myth about turning a cross grain bowl with spindle gouges. However due to the angles you have to be aware of while cutting with a continental spindle gouge on a bowl, YOU shouldn’t be promoting its use in this way. You are quite an influencer in wood turning now and a lot of new turners follow your leads and teaching. Yes you made aware the problems and talked about risks and what can happen. I’m not in favour of tang spindle gouges tools being used on cross grain work due to the problems that they present. Obviously scrapers are ok even though they are tang based tools. Thank you for sharing this video but you need to be aware of your influence and teaching instructions to all turners now that you have such a large audience of which most probably a don’t know

[@turningwiththewoods]

Do you know the history of why it is called continental spindle gouge? Did it originate in the americas?

[@demonicsquid7217]

Continental Europe. AFAIK, any pattern of tool that originated in Europe was called continental by the British - nothing to do with the US, they inherited much of their naming from the British.

[@turningwiththewoods]

@@demonicsquid7217 thanks.

[@joshwalker5605]

ive been told to not use spindle gouges on cuts where the cut crossed both side and end grain - as in bowls obviously - because it would vibrate as it transitioned and cause metal fatigue in the thin section near the handle and would snap. Sounded kind of like bullshit to me but idk.

[@Yleski]

What’s the brand and name of the lathe you own?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

New one is Harvey t-40 and older one is Killinger 1450se

[@William_Kenny]

Nicely done tomislav 👍

[@billstanley5317]

www_youtube_com/watch?v=IOhHeyoZLaY this is the video (hopefully the same one) from the Australian wood turner which demonstrates in graphic detail, what happens if you use a spindle roughing gouge on bowls (Note the underscores should be periods in the web address). I was taught never to us a "spindle gouge " on a bowl and the first video I watched from Richard Raffan - he used a spindle gouge on a bowl, so I made a comment - he very quickly explained and put me in my place. However, many of the turners at my club still believe there is no place for a spindle gouge in bowl turning. Great video.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

I think there will be always those against and that is ok, as there are soo many different ways to do a specific task in turning...just find one that fits you☺️

[@robohippy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4DLeZivpL9_l7s I must have watched the clip of Ian "Robbo' Robertson about 100 times. The thing that stuck in my mind most was him saying that he was in the shop the night before for a couple of hours and couldn't get the catch he wanted. After watching the video a number of times, I figured out why he had the catch. One, he is doing a peeling type of cut, which I have heard called a planing cut. The fatal error was he extended out pretty far off of the tool rest, and then he came off the bevel, which instantly caused the unsupported cutting edge deep into the wood. A peeling cut "will" work on bowls as long as you don't come off the bevel. Similar to the continental style roughing gouge, if you roll it on its side, you can get a very high shear angle for a very clean cut. I would never use a standard roughing gouge on the inside of a bowl. I never use one on bowls either, but do show it with the lathe at very low speed. The catch, is not related to the end grain as Stuart Batty claims, it comes from coming off the bevel.

[@josepaulo710]

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