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[@jonleblanc2436]

For the first time ever I haven’t been able to keep up with everything happening in the league

[@falzelite7420]

I couldn't keep up aswell

[@HDgaming519]

Lol I started watching the draft and stoped after the first 2 picks the only trade i heard in that time was the oel trade so it seems like everything was just hectic after that lol

[@drivethru6155]

Watch The Hockey Guy, you'll thank me later

[@HDgaming519]

@@drivethru6155 lol i do hes great at explaining things and he usally goes into great detail

[@jonleblanc2436]

@@drivethru6155 Been subscribed to him for years bro!

[@elh93]

Normal statement for a team after drafting a player: "We are excited to see this player within our org and here are some highlights of them on their current team"

[@SpunkyGo0se]

Except if you're Montreal: "hear us out, we can change him!"

[@andrecaron7823]

@@SpunkyGo0se no lol

[@SpunkyGo0se]

@@andrecaron7823 wym?

[@razzledazzlebug]

Seems apt that the Canadiens opted to draft him without his consent

[@yorkhawk3223]

Ooooh! Well played.

[@jasonkay869]

Underrated comment!!

[@enzodellacorte1909]

are you dumb? they obviously talked with him, you people are acting like he raped a girl like gilmour and kane did, other teams were gonna take him in the 2nd round, so why not montreal take him first

[@tsinne8640]

Bergevin said that they talked before, the guy did want to get drafter after all

[@olbillwang9935]

@@enzodellacorte1909 Evidently the Habs are acting like he raped a girl like Gilmour or Kane too because those guys didn’t face any fucking consequences for their actions either.

[@meg126]

as a habs fan, this is so embarassing. the fact that montreal had to release a statement after drafting him says a lot. what's disappointing to see is people DEFENDING mailloux's actions. i'm not talking about his apology and statement, i'm talking about actual people defending what he did to the young woman. people are saying "don't worry kid, we all make mistakes." that's some of the dumb, ignorant comments i've seen in the past 12 hours. if you want to see more, i'd suggest checking the comments under kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ22d4BjmJd5lcU

[@billnyethesciencesguy]

I was a kid for 18 years and I managed not to sexually abuse anyone.

[@Wayf4rer]

In this episode: Philly and Chicago have no idea what they are doing, Arizona is tanking, and big drama at the NHL draft

[@trumanzerse1169]

And the Canucks are… the Canucks

[@violetbluejay]

Not sure Philly and Chicago are quite on the same level. Risto deal was awful for the moment, but multiple teams were offering similar returns so it wasn't just them, and it's off the books after next year. To me, there's a pretty big jump from overpaying for a year of Risto and paying as much as the Hawks did for Jones AND giving him 8x9.5M. Plus at least Philly can say they pulled of Ellis too. I'd say Canucks are closer with that OEL deal

[@ChiefBlue4298]

And the Canes made some stupid moves as well

[@dgb921]

I don’t like the risto deal but he’s just for 1 year and I don’t have to see hagg play anymore. Their off-season hasn’t been bad at all.

[@maxwelljeremy5659]

@@violetbluejay Also I'd expect to expect better results from Ristolainen playing a lesser role behind Ellis on 2nd pair with Sanheim.

[@beauwallbridge5490]

This has been the most genuinely confusing few days I've ever seen for the NHL. It's like every GM is one-upping each other in terms of bad decisions.

[@thomaslam1616]

Very entertaining though lol

[@wadewilson3296]

*cries in hurricane*

[@maximusrusso8758]

As a habs fan I was roasting all the GMs lmao I had no idea Bergevin was going to blow all of them away with the worst move of the off-season.

[@bostonhockeyco]

Basically the NHL said: "Screw being boring, let's shock the world today!"

[@wendellsmittywerbenjagerma478]

As a Habs fan, I really respect this response. It's warranted, correctly impassioned, fair to the fans, critical of the management. This is a horrendous minimization of exploitation and emotional trauma by a tone deaf general manager. It makes me ashamed of the organization that I have been praising for the past year. The fans and players-I hope-are overwhelmingly against this move and I also hope that something is done about it soon. I don't know what kind of damage control you could perform on such a botched pick other than revoke the rights and apologize profusely, but I fear that won't happen. I would genuinely be disgusted to see this individual hit the ice in a Habs jersey.

[@unbearablycringe]

WOW! Loyal fan of over 20 years and I have finally given up. This will be the last day I ever support this franchise. My family and I had a party this afternoon and now we’re embarrassed IN FRONT OF COMPANY. My kids are crying because dad is crying. Enough is enough I am DONE!

[@Jacob-zm1cu]

At what point can they live their life again. They were punished by law. Publically apologised and showed some growth by asking to not be drafted. I'm not defending what he did but he was 17 and let's be honest we all did things we regret to different degrees of severity. If montreal thinks they can set this kid straight and turn him into an upstanding young man rather then being shunned by society and ruining someone's life. I would rather people improve themselves instead of being locked in past actions.

[@foxdoe7540]

People like you make me sick. The kid apologized to the victim, to the public, he paid the legal consequences in sweden, was harassed by social media, and that's still not enough for you. You want his future to be diminished.

[@wendellsmittywerbenjagerma478]

@@foxdoe7540 You seem fun at parties.

[@ryanmitchell4266]

@@unbearablycringe LOL - You're either a liar or you need to grow a pair

[@erikmacaluso]

Holy fuck Steve had a good thing to genuinely say about the Sabres

[@MachoWrestling101]

If Adam Wylde says something good about the sabres then, maybe then the world Would end

[@MononcMarc]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bergevin was forced to resign or retire this summer. This Mailloux signing really makes the Habs look bad and when you give the Canadiens a bad reputation, you're shown the door pretty quickly.

[@elguychopper]

But bergevin promise him to help im with is maturity problem

[@MononcMarc]

After the Chicago Blackhawks debacle where Bergevin worked, the last thing Geoff Molson wants is people starting to question if the Habs are condoning the kind of behavior Mailloux had.

[@NLSNcs]

@@elguychopper so they're so worried that he wont mature on his own that he needs his hand held? The london knights can easily help him, the canadiens didnt need to do this. And if a different organization drafted him, everyone would be just as outraged.

[@ChiefBlue4298]

I think the Canes made a big mistake of trading away Ned

[@scottmiller8617]

Especially considering the return, they didn't get much back.

[@birdiec]

You dont think Berniers better?

[@jameskilgour387]

Accounting for potential, I don't think Bernier is the better player

[@DadBooom]

And Jake Bean

[@Rishy-25]

It’s because he was making 2.5 million and the Canes got ReiMer and Merazek.

[@TheArcher143]

Don't worry Steve, no fan is insulted by your words about the Habs decision to draft Logan. Most of us agree with you.

[@Waders27]

The fans that don't agree with Steve are likely the same losers that made death threats to Scheifele and some Lightning players.

[@davidwhidden9337]

@@Waders27 Yikes. That's not remotely true, but internet likes!

[@Waders27]

@@davidwhidden9337 You sure about that?

[@davidwhidden9337]

@@Waders27 100%

[@FSydneysider13]

Female Habs fan here. I feel sick to the stomach, this decision is infuriating. Yes you can give someone a second chance but it needs to be earned not given to you on a silver platter. Where is the heartfelt apology to the victim? All we got was a statement written by a PR team. Talent should not compensate for disgusting behaviour but the Canadiens organisation clearly has a different view. Shame on them.

[@foxdoe7540]

She was an adult, he was a teenager. She was aware the picture was being taken during a one night stand.. There is a reason why even tho there is an age of consent, we put the burden of responsibility on the adults.

[@me.9228]

That doesn’t make it ok

[@cara6257]

@@foxdoe7540 you're really going out of your way to defend this dude hard, huh? This act literally would make him a sex offender in my country and have him on a register for life. People should behave accordingly.

[@davidwhidden9337]

@@cara6257 What laws are that? Do tell.

[@cara6257]

@@davidwhidden9337 The Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Act 2016

[@chrissie6105]

Thank you for being so clear on the MTL issue. As a female fan it’s been pretty discouraging to see some of the reactions that people have had to this topic.

[@capitainebonhomme1609]

Cast your mind back to when you were a 17 yo teenager Were you an angel? Haha 🤣🤣

[@chrissie6105]

@@capitainebonhomme1609 I didn’t share lewd photos taken of someone without their knowledge and consent with my friends at 17, that’s for sure

[@capitainebonhomme1609]

@@chrissie6105 Be honest We all did terrible things at that age. You know it I know it

[@chrissie6105]

@@capitainebonhomme1609 Uh... did I miss some coming-of-age ritual or something? Because I really, really didn’t. Kinda smells like whataboutism anyway 😬

[@capitainebonhomme1609]

@@chrissie6105 Quite convenient for people to forget what they had been up to in their teenager years. Trying drugs, under age drinking, petty "dare" crimes, etc...etc..

[@codeman99-dev]

A few years ago, Brandon Saad slipped out of the first round because he was perceived to have "work ethic" issues. This guy flat out tells the entire league that he is hot garbage and he is taken 31st overall?!

[@nationalhamleague5352]

For added context, Bergevin thought Subban didn't have the 'right' character for Habs.

[@Gamerzsociaty]

In my opinion, I don't think the Canadians should get all of the backlash considering the report said multiple teams were looking at Logan at the 2nd round. I think this is a condemnation of the NHL considering multiple teams looked at him for the second round let alone rounds 3-7. Bergevin being a part of the Blackhawks during their scandal is a bad look but imagine if Kyle Dubas drafted this kid or Joe Sakic or Steve Yzerman. Multiple teams were looking to draft him at round 2 so he for sure was gonna get drafted. The game of Russian roulette just happened to fall on the Habs this time. Last year it was Arizona except nobody was planning on drafting that kid.

[@atelierarbwa1086]

Bergevin is a maverick and he proved it once again. That being said, he’s paid to put the best hockey team on the ice and everything else aside, the kid is a heck of a hockey player.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

I agree, and it's not just because I'm a Habs fan. Bergevin shouldn't have done that in the first place. However, the other GMs who were looking to draft him are also guilty.

[@nolan2235]

Marc bergevin, a man that was a high up in the Blackhawks organization when they covered up a sexual assault just drafted a guy convicted of sexual assault. Nobody ever mention again how leadership and culture are that important because hockey culture is broken

[@michaelbailey3254]

sexual assault? easy fella. let's not redefine words to suit your sanctimonious disdain.

[@dangermartin69]

There is no hockey culture, hockey is part of a culture. What you're talking about is multi-million dollar business culture.

[@kaszael]

@@michaelbailey3254 I'm pretty sure they were talking about the Chicago video coach targeted by allegations of actual sexual assault on a player in 2010.

[@michaelbailey3254]

@@kaszael "just drafted a guy convicted of sexual assault."

[@kaszael]

@@michaelbailey3254 ah, hadn't read that far. Then yeah, that's a bit much. There is a difference between offensive photography constituting an invasion of privacy and sexual assault.

[@TheArcher143]

I guess Bergevin decided he was completing the last year of his contract with a bang. He's got the spotlight and is refusing to share it with anyone else.

[@unbearablycringe]

last year of his contract? why?

[@SamaelBDS]

@@unbearablycringe highly hinted at the fact that it was a lot mentally for him to work in the Montreal business and might decide not to resign with us

[@sydlucille]

@@SamaelBDS molson might not even want to resign him

[@SamaelBDS]

@@sydlucille honestly would be understandable after today's move

[@azsl31]

@@SamaelBDS u think they didn’t consult him before drafting him

[@hotsimdrum]

Steve, as a Habs fan, this is appaling. When they made that statement on the fan page EVERYONE was angry and I can say that no real hockey fans are okay with this disgusting decision. Playing in the NHL is a privilege that you need to earn with hard work and ethic. If Bergevin really wanted to pick this guy up, he could've totally waited for the 7th round since no one was gonna pick him up instead of wasting the first round pick. I'm ashamed of my team.

[@Outta-hz1ej]

lol watch it magically work out just like literally every SINGLE trade and pick Marc Burgerman makes. They all look like a complete boneheaded idiotic moves but then they all magically turn out.

[@KaaFOFO]

Other teams have mentioned (behind the scenes to reporters) that they'd likely pick Logan up in the 2nd round. I'm sure Bergevin knew this. Still didn't seem worth it to pick him up though.

[@majormoose007]

the mallouix stuff, the virtanen stuff and the blackhawks stuff all the the past few months is appalling

[@Chris-ho9cm]

@KZbin Censorship what he did is classified as a literal CRIME in canada (where he was just drafted). It is not a silly mistake, or just a matter of being sensitive. Disgusting.

[@paulbaker9879]

@@Chris-ho9cm Just to clarify, it is presumably a crime in Sweden also as he was essentially convicted and fined under Swedish law. Not that I agree with the moron you're replying to, just pointing out that he has already been punished by the law in the country where he commited the crime.

[@bubbaharrod2530]

Oh no so disgusting, a young man bragging about a beautiful Swedish girl he is banging, and that’s disgusting to you? It’s slightly immature but it’s not appalling by any stretch, it’s typical and normal young male behavior

[@MrWastedtalent34]

Can't "Blame" the Tampa Bay Lightning for playing "Within" the rules in regards to the unfair cap advantages, This is the Leagues fault. Can't "Blame" the Montreal Canadiens for playing "Within" the rules in regards to Mailloux, This is again the Leagues fault. Bergevin knew picking him would be a fuck you to the league, even if he was averaged to be picked at 35 which was left out of the video, Canadiens only picked him a few spots ahead. From a media/Life perspective, Austin Matthews is a great example of how a player can have a mistake in their history and still play in the NHL. I'd even argue that pulling your pants down in public while harassing a woman in her car takes a lot more effort to reach that destination, than it does to send pics from ur phone. I am not condoning any of these actions, just stating a valid point. Lets focus the energy where it needs to be focused though people, The League itself. They certainly have a ton of past and current issues all around them and yet nobody wants to talk about how many billions of dollars they are pocketing each year the cap is frozen since just signing the new TV deals. Should be a lot more angry fans that they are purposefully hurting the product of hockey on the ice to pad their pockets during a pandemic. Oh you poor babies, only made 5 billion instead of 7 billion, but will make 7+ with fans back in this next year and every year its flat is a fuck you to the fans and players. The cap was supposed to be north of 100 million year 2 of the new TV deal, as reported just before covid.

[@voinyhelvetti]

If Bergevin thought that it would be just a 'fuck you' to the league *only* , he needs to have a real hard think. Your point is just whataboutism about Matthews and the Leafs, or how the league is giving the fans a middle finger by making money, and nothing about *how* this is the League's fault and *not* the Canadiens' other than "they were allowed to pick him by the rules". Nobody is claiming that Bergevin broke the rules of the draft. Then you go on to speak about how the league is fucking us the fans when it comes to frozen cap and revenue which has absolutely nothing to do with the Mailloux situation.

[@MrWastedtalent34]

@@voinyhelvetti your ability to grasp context in text is atrocious. I very clearly state that it doesn't fucking matter what Mailloux did, he's still gonna be an NHL player. Matthews was my example at someone who has done something that should be on their permanent record if he was a normal person, yet still plays in the NHL. Tons of people are claiming Bergevin "broke the rules" because Mailloux removed himself from the draft. Which has no effect on the actual drafting process since ONLY THE LEAGUE can remove him from the drafting process. Its so hard to be nice on the internet when dumbasss like you don't know how to read, and think your opinion of someone elses opinion is a valuable add. Guess what jack ass, your opinion is not a valuable add to another persons opinion, Matthews situation is terrible, There is 0 things to talk about in regards to mailloux, he's on his path to be in the NHL now his incident is behind him already, just like Matthews incident was gone from the media after only 2 days in the media. The biggest issue the league has, is exploiting Billions in profits during a global pandemic which is why I can so easily change the subject, after a new teams 650 mill buy in, after 2 new TV deals that the signing cost of those contracts - literally eliminate all of the "money they didn't make" gap that they were projected to make pre-covid. I'm just 1 fan, but I won't be giving any money to the NHL going forward in the future until they finally make right all the wrong they've been caught doing , past and present. Flat cap hurts every team in the league, just for owners to pocket a couple extra billion for themselves each year the cap is flat. So yes, EVERY fan of EVERY team should be pissed off AT the LEAGUE, not specific players or only a handful of teams, ALL Owners are guilty.

[@voinyhelvetti]

@@MrWastedtalent34 In all of that seething text you still didn't make your point of why shouldn't Bergevin be blamed for such a tone deaf pick. Just because Mailloux will eventually be an NHLer? That doesn't absolve it imo. Also, I haven't seen anyone yet claim that Bergevin was breaking any draft rules. "Its so hard to be nice on the internet" were you trying to be?

[@MrWastedtalent34]

@@voinyhelvetti Do you blame the Tampa Bay lightning GM for Tampa abusing their cap advantages? No, and why should you right? Its not any single teams fault for drafting any available player. It was the Leagues responsibility to remove Mailloux from draft eligibility and they clearly didn't feel what he did warranted that or they would have. It relates to Tampa because it is just another thing THE LEAGUE as a whole is doing nothing about. Its not a tone deaf pick at all for Bergevin to follow the rules and pick the player that helps improve his team. There is a risk to every pick, Would he have chose to risk it on a different player if the league did something about tampa exploiting cap advantages, he likely makes a different pick if the last couple years went differently. Its not my job to explain to you whats happening around the league, so yes it is hard to be nice when people on the internet, don't know how to use the internet or understand context in text.

[@voinyhelvetti]

@@MrWastedtalent34 oh yeah, I can tell how hard you're just struggling to be nice but I, the bad guy, just won't let you. Yes I can blame a team for their draft pick. You're the one going on an on about picking up context but you present Tampa abusing the cap and Mailloux's situation as similar when the context is wildly different. For one, Tampa abusing the cap had no specific victim, where as what Mailloux did had one and Montreal drafting him does send a signal that it's fine, which is what I'm blaming Bergevin and the Canadiens for. He and the team had the moral option of not to but did anyway. Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should. Depending on context.

[@jillmacmillan4265]

thank you for speaking about the mailloux situation. coming from a habs fan, it’s unacceptable. their actions by drafting him IN THE FIRST ROUND promotes the ideology that actions like his are okay as long as you’re good at hockey. both the team management and the player need to be held accountable. it’s a disappointment to all of hockey.

[@camtro033]

He has been held accountable. He apologized and renounced himself from the draft. He got a criminal record for it. As someone that has been in the situation of the victim in the Mailloux situation I don't wish his life to he ruined. This isn't me exonerating him nor is it me vilifying him. I'm merely saying that he apologized, renounced himself, said that he'd earn a second chance himself and rebuild trust and try again next year or the year after and so on. There's only so much he can do bar grovelling at the woman's feet. If anybody did wrong it was Bergevin and the Habs. They took him after knowing what he did. They also say they're going to provide him with support and the structure to learn from what he did so idk. But give it a year or so they'll forget about him and move on to something else anyway. They always do.

[@ozma6918]

@@camtro033 I totally agree with you there, from start till finish. However, Mailloux needed to earn his second chance before anything else, and his public statement is a first step (a big one, granted, but just the first step nonetheless). Bergevin disregarding this is absolute trash. He's lost so much of my respect...

[@airwavv7054]

@@ozma6918 not to mention that even after not yet earning his second chance, he will be offered a contract that will make him a millionaire. That part still really bothers me, shame on MTL.

[@zeke3245]

@@airwavv7054 because he mare a mistake a year ago he cant be succeful in the futur ? your comment is the dumest one ive seen in a while.

[@airwavv7054]

@@zeke3245 you don’t see a problem with the mistake he made, which was done so very recently, not properly apologizing (according to the article that Steve used), and then saying a contract that would give him a million dollars? While the victim is still being hurt by his actions? He is facing close to 0 repercussions for his actions.

[@ImmortalWombat]

Chabot: 8 x 8. Jones: 8 x 9.5 thats a mistake

[@capitainebonhomme1609]

Agree with you Terrible contracts Too many years

[@AndreasKurtz60]

In my opinion Jones is better than Chabot but this the Jones contract is garbage

[@VictorianLifeForm]

@@AndreasKurtz60 Chabot is younger, and that contract captures his prime. Jones will be in his 30s for much of that contract. I also think chabot's got a lot of room to grow still. 8 is fair for Chabot, 9.5 is atrocious for Jones

[@capitainebonhomme1609]

@@AndreasKurtz60 Seth Jones contract:. future nightmare

[@alesd2120]

Even from that player's perspective this isn't a second chance for him - rather the Habs robbed him of actually having it. He asked for the second chance next year by not being drafted this time and they ruined it. Instead of having a year to sort his mess out and apologize properly to that girl and even repent in some way, he has to deal with all this backlash and media attention. And can you imagine how he will be "welcomed" if/when he steps on the ice in the Habs (or any other) jersey?

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

@@glaframb No one is saying this kid should be banned for life or anything. But like think what the Habs are putting this kid through. They aren't giving him a second chance, they are robbibg him of a second chance. Instead of giving the kid a chance to sort out all the relationships in his life, instead of giving him a chance to mentally move on from it, to get himself in the right place. Instead of giving him a chanve to prove to the fans and the league he has matured. The Habs pick him and now through him into this awful position. People are now going to hate on him for the rest of his career. He will be booed the first time he wears the jersey. Like all this extra stress being thrown on him for no reason. He wanted to clear his name. Now he will never have the chance to do so. Saying other teams were not gonna pick him is stupid. Doesn't matter. That Habs picked him and it was the wrong decision.

[@arcticmonkey3]

@@glaframb he asked not to be drafted. You’re the one complaining

[@andyvu1325]

@@arcticmonkey3 i do get this point, but i have a hard time believing he would've actually slipped through the whole draft. But I agree that the first round 'exposure' probably wasn't the best for him.

[@arcticmonkey3]

I guess you’ve never gone through what the young female did. Shame on you for defending the guilty

[@arcticmonkey3]

@@baseballfan4169 she didn’t allow it. That’s the issue bud. Do some research. Don’t be a sheep

[@adalaza]

It feels like this league just doesn't learn

[@spatuloso]

Its an insular old boys club funded by shady billionares, learning would be against the code.

[@JBTriple8]

well I hope Luke Prokop coming out ushers in change also more teams are getting in analytics as well

[@revisals7210]

the nhl is the worst league in pro sports

[@spatuloso]

@@revisals7210 no, thats the NFL. Very close second though.

[@clout13r]

They reflect our society, dont be surprised

[@camc9225]

Reminds me of that scrub the Yotes tried to pick. Sends an apology to the league, cares not about the victim. If youre talented, you're untouchable. Amazing..

[@Moda-pf8wt]

But the Coyotes renounced him. The guy bullied a disabled black kid for years. That's a completely different situation.

[@mattkju4037]

Utterly classless move by the Montreal Canadians organization.

[@spatuloso]

But not suprising given what we know about Marcs past.

[@SamaelBDS]

Yeah even we don't know

[@SamaelBDS]

Pheonix somehow did better then us with their forfeited pick

[@conorwreckoner]

Poverty franchise just can’t stop taking L’s

[@Daaaaaaaa192]

Habs fan here. Putting my fandom on pause as long as this coward is in the organization. Bergevin just screwed his legacy.

[@cameronkuom8168]

The Habs should be ashamed of themselves. And if Mailloux truly wants to show he believes he has not earned the right to be drafted, he should not sign his ELC with Montreal

[@pixels9803]

Owen power about to help buffalo go Owen 82

[@grivoc]

Underrated comment

[@giannib326]

Still funny lol

[@Posit_Zero_Blue]

Hey...congrats to Buffalo for that pick.

[@johnsheble863]

I’m ashamed to be a Blackhawks fan

[@julienhomo]

Why?

[@ashtonsosnowski9201]

You have two cups to live on in the past decade of happy memories idk why you’re complaining

[@jonasgorea3823]

@@ashtonsosnowski9201 prolly talking about the scandal

[@ashtonsosnowski9201]

@@jonasgorea3823 I think you mean the retarded trade they did for Seth Jones?

[@ashtonsosnowski9201]

@@jonasgorea3823 ah I didn’t get to the end of the video I see now

[@gingerest-ale6419]

As a Habs fan, I can say that we are ashamed that this has been the 1st round pick for our team. I am disgusted at what happened tonight and truly Bergevins decision is shameful. He’s now put a terrible shadow over our team and we will have to deal with the fallout for him drafting a player none of us wanted. Thank you for speaking on the issue in the way you did, you are absolutely right in everything you said.

[@ebashford5334]

Another Habs fan here for 50 years and I agree. I've thought about it but it's demoralizing that we have management that is so callous. Players are supposed to be hockey heroes with decency and wholesomeness, not assholes. I could understand taking him in a later round but the first pick is about hope, pride and prestige. I'm not following the team until Bergevin is fired, hopefully very soon. Hockey talent aside, it's just a shabby pick.

[@vkobevk]

@@ebashford5334 did 1/4 of them tried to kill each other and concussion each other? so your heroes and decency have green light to break head 😅

[@zackashby9741]

as a habs fan, that is a fantastic pick. MB capitalized on GMs mistake. Mailloux is gonna be a hab. get over it

[@lucdelorme5923]

Steve as a habs fan that has been following you for years, we have had a amazing time recently but your right. Damn Habs deciding to piss me off every week since losing in the finals. This is honestly equally as bad if not worst then last years Arizona 4th rounder. Character matters more then only there ability to play this game. In hockey you need 23 players that believe in each other and are dedicated to 1 goal, plus this is the team that moved on from guys like subban and galchenyuk over the wrong impact on the dressing room. To add a prospect like this is a big mistake, let alone using a 1st round pick on him!

[@julienor9845]

I agree

[@julienor9845]

@@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup He deserves a second chanse when he has earned it.

[@julienor9845]

@@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup He paid some money as a punishment. But he has not shown that he has learned from this. Did you know that he tried in some of the early interviews with NHL clubs to blamed her and said she was a vindictive horrible woman that was out to ruin him? When all she wanted was a sincer apology. The first apology he gave to her was a textmessage of 3 sentences. When he realized this would affect his draft thats when he changed what he was saying and gave his statments. I dont belive, yet, that he truly wants to change in any way. Because this last things his done is clearly motivated by trying to paint a better picture of himself so he can get drafted. Which teams put him on a do NOT draft lists.....the ones where he talked so badly about the victim. If he was drafted next year it would give him a second chanse and it would show not just to him but to the rest of the hockey world that good moral and doing what is right is something the NHL and its teams stands for. But I guess you dont care about things like this.

[@julienor9845]

@@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup The truth lies in your own Word choices. I dont know them and neither of us knows if what he is saying is sincer or not. But he was found guilty. Therefore that is not the question. He has done something wrong and which shows he needs to become better as a person. This he has not proven, but I dont think you care about this because you disregard the facts and hold on to your opinion. So I do not think there any point of this discusion any more.

[@KHayes666]

This is nowhere near the Coyotes drafting Mitchell Miller. Miller showed no remorse at all for what he did and the only reason he ever put out an half-ass apology is because he didn't think it would resurface years later when the Coyotes drafted him. Its a case of he was sorry he was caught, not for what he did. Mailloux seems genuinely sorry for what he did and told the NHL not to draft him. The OHL didn't wait around for Montreal, they suspended him immediately. The Habs are pretty much banking on the high risk that he's actually really good and made a stupid teenaged mistake that won't happen again. As long as he doesn't drive a car while drunk into a tree or starts going after women without consent, this probably will go away in a few years when he's in his early 20's.

[@SirSpiderPig]

As a Canadiens fan I’m so disappointed by bergevin’s decision. He’s done so well for us putting together the team that made this magical run and then he managed to keep our core team together while leaving several of those core players unprotected. But like come on, there were better players available, better men available.

[@jeffmckenzie1617]

Logan mallouix has every right to not sign a contract until he feels he’s matured enough, made amends to the victim and earned the right to play in the nhl. However I do believe his wishes of not being drafted this year should have been respected, not trying to upset habs fans that’s just how I feel

[@slipperynodd578]

Montreal pissed me off so bad, It is going to be so hard to cheer for this team if he makes the lineup

[@gordieparenteau6555]

He won't. But still leaves a sour taste.

[@ninja0329]

Knowing Montreal in the past couple of hours he might be in the lineup.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

Same here. I can't believe Bergevin decided to give the middle finger to all of the players in the roster who worked so hard to get to the finals. That guy cannot make the lineup. He just can't. The other players on the roster are not going to accept this for sure.

[@tommargarites2811]

I'm a long time Habs fan.......but this....after everything the team has been able to accomplish this year, it just puts a very dark shadow over those accomplishments. I agree, Bergevin should be ashamed of himself.

[@Crimsn519]

He texted an apology to the girl that was three sentences. She asked for an in person sincere apology. And he text her. And you're all acting like it's cool, he apologized to us on Instagram...

[@iicceeccaattss]

I think what enrages me the most is that the Habs weren’t the only team considering drafting him. Not a good look for the league

[@somneonfs]

@BCMortgage it’s almost like hockey culture sucks or something

[@onlybuilt4donut249]

how do i cheer for this team.... i didnt hear the story and when they talked about it immediately on air i almost hurled

[@douggilmour2704]

easy... nobody does cheer for them. Montreal is like that... women are treated like second class. I lived there for 4 yrs and couldn't wait to get out.

[@Shawnaldo-jh3ve]

"Seriously?! What do I have to do to get fired?!" - Marc Bergevin

[@InsignificantNick]

I think that draft left a bad taste in most peoples mouths. Just feel bad for the teen woman who experienced that.

[@Jacobkelly90]

She’s 18 so a adult also he’s only 17

[@slipperynodd578]

@@Jacobkelly90 what do you mean only? He’s old enough to realize that it’s not OK to do

[@dankflank5419]

I don't know what yall are talking about

[@slipperynodd578]

@@dankflank5419 Watch the video

[@sharpy3453]

@@slipperynodd578 still a minor. and in canada it would be illegal to report it and like any other minor in canada, if he doesnt commit any crimes for a few years he will have his youth record sealed and possibly destroyed .

[@ozma6918]

Montreal fan here, I was so enthusiastic about thr Habs making the Stanley Cup Finals, quite disappointed at losing it but overall pretty damn proud. Ever since then... Seems to me it's been a complete 180. It's as you say, this draft pick is trash. I do believe in second chances, but then he'd had to earn it, and drafting him in 2022, IF everything goes well, would've been it. Bergevin is losing so, so, SO much of my respect lately. Can't believe he was finalist for GM of the year. This team right here is supposed to be the most glorious team in NHL history. Oh, how far has it fallen...

[@naugles89]

The seeds of many trade trees have been planted today while some roots from other trees continue to grow

[@philtorrez4198]

Oh boy I can’t wait to trace these back in a few years time.

[@ryantodd7483]

This Seth Jones trade tree video 3 years from now is probably gonna be immense.

[@FelixSalazar]

I was looking for your opinion on the Mailloux issue. I'm glad you didn't frame as a "Well, he would have been a 1st rounder if it weren't for this issue, because he had xx points and this % efficiency blablabla" because that's exactly what the Canadiens did.

[@EMan-hr5vf]

15:20 unfortunately Bergevin probably took no shame in taking Mailloux and doesn’t give a shit about PR. Knowing him he’ll probably also sign Tony DeAngelo.

[@patjablonski9739]

No one should care about PR if they’re smart to it. And DeAngelo could be a great signing for the right price

[@cyan5161]

@@patjablonski9739 A couple mil to ruin your locker room, sounds like a good deal to me. Go for it Bergy!

[@patjablonski9739]

@@cyan5161 then I guess Luke Prokop should never be an NHL player based on that logic

[@cyan5161]

​@@patjablonski9739 What on earth are you talking about, these two are not even remotely equivalent. DeAngelo has had a reputation for antagonizing teammates since his time in the OHL and has shown no signs of changing his ways. Prokop to my knowledge has nothing like that against him, It's frankly insulting you'd even bring him up as some sort of comparable.

[@patjablonski9739]

@@cyan5161 Well yeah, because no one knew that Prokop was gay until now. Now he’s a distraction, just as DeAngelo is.

[@froboy252]

Me: *finishes watching the podcast* Steve: “Have some more things and stuff!”

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

I love things and stuff!

[@artemifedorov4308]

As a rangers fan, I have never been more confused in my entire life. I wish for some sense to be made of this nonsense not only in our organization but ALL OVER THE LEAGUE!!!! Today trade wise is probably one of the biggest dang it’s in the nhl

[@chungleee]

alot of people acting like Mailloux don't deserve a second chance but when it comes to themselves, they'd beg for a second chance

[@luciusprepus]

Right people are so hypocrite

[@jeffhabs]

Well, as habs fan, all the excitement and everything that was built during the last run is gone with that pick. Can’t wear any habs gear without barfing

[@philllllllll]

I hate Bergevin. He's the reason I quit being a Habs fan and he's the reason I couldn't be fully invested in this year's cup run. I hate that man so much he KILLED my fandom for an entire team.

[@DoppaD]

I'm the kinda guy who hits "like" before I even watch it... deal with it.

[@D-Fens_1632]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWq1h4ZumM-BhJI

[@ChiefBlue4298]

Me too

[@TOGazza]

It goes on.....Gilmour, who now plays for the Calgary Flames, testified for about two hours Tuesday. “I’m just happy that it’s gone well,” Gilmour said. “I’m just kind of looking forward to getting on with hockey and my life.” Gilmour’s attorney, Gordon Ankney, said his client maintained his innocence in his second appearance before the grand jury.

[@Angers98]

Thank you for your candid reaction and passion on the Habs' draft pick. As a female fan, I'm uncomfortable, I'm disgusted, and I'm heartbroken. Also really scary to see men defending this decision. Hopefully this starts a positive conversation about misogyny in hockey culture.

[@austinnitsua4904]

As a Habs fan, i’m disgusted. It’s very disappointing. This young boy gets rewarded for his actions, faces little to no repercussions, and will get endless support. But what about the victim? What does she get? She gets to sit at home, with her three sentence half assed apology and watch this boy get drafted in the 1st round.

[@midimusicforever]

No, the pick is not a reward for sharing the picture, but for being a good hockey player. He's been conviced and handed a sentence by a court of law. Leave it at that.

[@austinnitsua4904]

@@midimusicforever doesn’t matter if he’s a good hockey player or not. His character is not good. He isn’t a good person. Dont just “leave it at that”. From any standpoint this isn’t a good pick. He played 4 games in the OHL. That’s it. Yes he played in Sweden but he was average at best. He shouldn’t have been drafted last night, especially after Logan said himself he shouldn’t be drafted. It’s a dumb move. You can’t combat that

[@midimusicforever]

@@austinnitsua4904 Haha, his character is not good? Like you know anything about that based on one single instance. :)

[@austinnitsua4904]

@@midimusicforever he took pictures of a girl without her consent and sent it around to his teammates, and hasn’t sent out a sincere apology to the girl. Says a lot about his character. ;)

[@midimusicforever]

@@austinnitsua4904 Yeah, because you know if he was sincerre or not. :)

[@Jred657]

Dont forget that Bergevin really did say “we are proud to select” him

[@TheArcher143]

Well yeah, that’s kind of what everyone says before drafting someone.

[@elguychopper]

Dude we dont know but some nhl todays nhl player has donne worse or the same oh wait artemi panarin did this OOOPS

[@ronmatthews2250]

Unbelievable that Dufas traded away one first and two fourth round picks for renting Foligno.

[@richardfewer9348]

Leafs suck. Godwilling things will get better GLG

[@imagidan]

To Steve and all others who want to give us the moral for why it was wrong to pick Logan. Enough is enough, give him a second chance and move on. He said he didn't want to get drafted, but if the team that drafts him will help him with his mistake and is not just looking at the hockey player than what the hell are we discussing about. Dont even reply to this if you are smart, because I just dont think many people are giving this enough thought. I have given it thought as a habs fan and I am happy with the pick since it was done with good reasoning. Give it another thought!

[@antimatter2380]

I guess knowing you aren't mature enough is a mature attitude? Like they cancel each other out?

[@jameskilgour387]

No

[@ryanmitchell4266]

LOL "Crime" - Glorified Speeding ticket

[@boodtwo4342]

I do hope that the Habs intend to assist both Mailloux and the young woman involved in terms of him atoning for and her recovering from what he did. Just my take

[@sidneyrobinson9186]

simply pathetic how Montreal did that

[@jimmyrempel6260]

Funny how everybody thinks that Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods and Mike Tyson are a Gods and GOATS, and whatever else they call them these days, even thought they got caught doing much worst. People are hypocrites and suffering from dementia

[@fireside68]

Found the guy cool with sexual assault/abuse/crimes. Hear this: ALL OF THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS CAN BE WRONG AND IT NOT BE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. Dragging extra folks into a situation to make a very, VERY shitty point does nothing but make you look bad.

[@jimmyrempel6260]

@@fireside68 You're missing the whole point Karen....

[@cameronveno]

I’m a Habs fan and I’m disgusted by the pick, he rewarded a literal criminal by picking him in the first round. He also reached a ton

[@baseballfan4169]

He didn't commit a crime, it was like a parking ticket.

[@geraldmontplaisir3379]

I...just really hope that Bergevin picked him so he could bury him

[@Chris-tz2um]

I'm so glad that you went after Montreal for their pick. I don't go on Twitter so I didn't know how anyone was feeling about it. I was shocked and disgusted when I saw they picked him.

[@craigharrison5406]

Jones getting 9.5 per is insanity. That is Alex Pietrangelo money and he is no Pietrangelo.

[@darthrevan6]

Thing is, that swedish player was getting drafted by somebody. If the NHL didn't ban him for the draft, he would've wounded up drafted regardless.

[@oldskool1979]

Stan Bowman is out of his mind.. Jones is over rated and paid !

[@KyleMacSkill]

At the end of the day it's a business. Logan dropped in the rankings because of the incident and Montreal had the opportunity to draft a more valuable asset at the 31st pick and they took it. Good players equals deep playoffs runs which equals more revenue... There was probably 20 teams who were planning on stealing him in later rounds and had that exact statement Bergervin released already typed up with their PR team

[@Kooybur]

I believe that this MTL pick is getting blown out of proportion a little bit. Yes, I know what he did was very very wrong , but the fact he took the initiative to opt out of the NHL draft by his own will, just shows he doesn’t want the drama and seems he’s very apologetic towards it. He was 17, 17 is the age where you make the dumbest decisions you ever will. I believe MTL can shape and mould him into a good young man. Maybe this is me seeing the good in guys who don’t deserve it, but I honestly wholeheartedly believe this kid just made a stupid decision and he realized it.

[@Kooybur]

And him realizing he’s not mature enough, shows a bit of maturity in there.

[@rsuninv]

Montreal is the new Arizona.

[@normanince7073]

2 things about the Mailloux situation: 1) what he did was reprehensible but who are any of us to judge him? Bergevin and others in the Habs organization know this kid far better than any of us. And why does this 17-year-old kid not deserve a chance to become a better person and perhaps make amends for his actions? 2) The Habs are drafting him for his potential as a hockey player...for what he can do ON THE ICE. Several other teams were considering taking Mailloux in the 2nd round so don't call out Bergevin for taking this calculated risk, and possibly outfoxing several other GMs.

[@rivahkillah]

1. Not sure how many girls you've sexually assaulted but my total is at 0, so that's why I feel like I can judge him. 2. Anyone that was drafting him was going to get hated on. Saying things like "Others would have done the same" doesn't hold any water.

[@normanince7073]

There was no sexual assault! And spare us the 'holier than thou' attitude.

[@Shawnaldo-jh3ve]

Funny how the Black Hawks finally get rid of Keith and Seabrook's contracts and get some cap space, then immediately give it away to Jones.

[@benchow8851]

I think Seattle miscalculates the fact that alot of other teams have cap space to 'weaponize' too, so they won't be able to do as much as they thought. So if the Kraken's asking for a king's ransom to absorb bad contracts, there's a bunch of other teams to go to that might take a much lower price...

[@slgreidanus]

Anyone who voted for Justin Trudeau for PM, does not hold any authority to criticize Marc Bergevin for choosing Logan.

[@junioruncle4378]

According to that logic I have the authority to criticize Bergevin and his tone deaf idiocy. Glad we could agree.

[@slgreidanus]

@@junioruncle4378 anybody who accepts people like or votes for a Joe Biden, Justin Trudeau, Bill Clinton just as examples of people to become world leaders, despite their numerous incidents of sexual assault, sexual harassment, racist behaivors, or illegal activity; have no business saying it's not okay to give a 17 yr old kid a second chance. If you are consistent... then have at you and feel free. The law will punish the kid, and rightfully so. He will pay his price and he will have to decide who he wants to become after all is said and done.

[@clout13r]

Im ready to forgive a 17 years old... i played junior hockey in the 90s and what he did, although really bad for that young lady, is nothing in comparison to what some of the guys i played with and against did.

[@jeanmariegaron]

I don’t want to see him in a Habs uniform ever

[@xanderbaldwyn3980]

Then go cry to your mama!

[@barbdec24]

Thank you Steve. All reaction I've seen, from fans & media alike, has been as yours. Thanks for voicing it.

[@TalkTime4]

To be fair, on the ice, the kid’s a stud, he definitely needs help off the ice, but he showed maturity telling teams to renounce his pick, the thing is he’s also a victim of bullying by his other team mates for him to share the photos, and you think this girl didn’t see him whip out his phone? Not saying it’s right, but don’t kill a young kid’s future for a stupid thing, it’s not like he raped or like that kid from last year that bullied. Things will go down, but berg made a hockey move and will deal with the off ice stuff after, if anything, bringing this kid to an organization that has class and character with teach this kid todo better

[@DropDatBass]

I thought the canes were gonna be the most joked on team after the ned trade but Montreal took the cake

[@uziuzi3786]

14:48 - 15:19 Steve, you can separate Bergevin from the Montreal Canadiens fans, but you can’t separate Bergevin from the Montreal Canadiens as an organization in this context. In making this selection, the canadiens as an organization put out a statement defending the pick. The organization had a statement already ready before the pick was made, so higher ups must have known this was coming. This is on the montreal canadiens organization as much as Bergevin.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

The only ones who probably had no control over this are the players themselves...

[@nap2149]

Keep in mind that 28 out of the 32 teams were ready to draft mailloux regardless, and the 4 that weren’t already have an ongoing controversy of that caliber (blackhawks, leafs, etc.). For the canadiens it was a « We’ll look like the villains but if we don’t pick him someone else will anyways » and I guess they were ready to pay that price. Point is, it was the canadiens that got a hold of him, but odds are it could’ve been almost any other team. The problem is with the NHL that allowed this in the first place and I hope the canadiens reach out to the victim and that there are repercussions for mailloux. Professional athletes get away with way too much and it’s time to change that.

[@townfool4682]

Apparently 12 teams already had him on their “do not draft” lists//removed him from their boards before he put out his statement “taking himself out of the draft”. He put out the statement in part because it appeared the incident was affecting his draft position. Don’t get me wrong, there definitely were some teams still willing to pick him this year (Arizona did select Mitchell Miller last year, after all, despite all of the horrible shit he did), but I don’t think that “almost any other team” was about to do the same. The kid wouldn’t have tried to take himself out of the draft if that were the case

[@pierre-alexandredemers4423]

and the Habs made me lost all the respect they finally managed to make me have during these playoffs. Guess i'll root for the 31 other teams like usual

[@pierre-alexandredemers4423]

j'vas quand même prendre pour les 31 autres équipes. XD

[@mikeg1110]

Simp

[@lightninginqc7837]

Logan Mailloux played the uno reverse card😂

[@boerhae]

Bergevin told everyone he knew nothing about the Hawks scandal and then immediately proved that he probably, very likely, did and just ignored it

[@Deleaubro]

Marc Bergevin 🤝 Doing things without consent Logan Mailoux

[@andysorensen1737]

When Bob Freaking McKenzie roasts you, you messed up.

[@ColonelCustard]

"Trading Debrincat and Dach makes no sense" 1 year later: Chicago trades Debrincat and Dach. Lololol

[@kenkirkland5646]

Statement is good enough for me from the Montreal Canadiens. Does not mean the player is going to play this year when the franchise knows the player needs time Relax Steve the player is showing receipts

[@mnif001]

As a Habs fan, when the draft choice was announced, I really felt ashamed…

[@mikeg1110]

Weak

[@elizabethmccleary7331]

Btw he wasn’t an adult

[@ldgt1]

I do believe in 2nd chances but right now, it doesn’t look good. He was only given a fine of $2100 for the charge which he paid. You can be upset about it but it’s not gonna change anything, only time will tell if Mallioux learns and grows from this.

[@jillmacmillan4265]

second chances are important. but actions also require repercussions, and by drafting him where they did, mallioux was excused & makes it seem like what he did was ok.

[@ldgt1]

@@jillmacmillan4265 those repercussion(s) was the $2100 fine. I know it’s literally nothing, but in the courts eyes, justice is served. Him not being sincere in his apology is what I don’t like. Honestly, he probably won’t play for the habs for years, I’d be surprised if he played at all for them next season.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@ldgt1 He's definitely not going to play for them next season when it took Caufield two years to be inserted in the lineup and Caufield's super talented. The players in the roster must be silently unhappy with this situation...

[@undertheestes]

THIS IS SO TRUE this was so awkward to be in twitter at that time and thank you steve for saying that it's nothing against us, habs fan, but we can agree that bergevin messed up real hard on this one (and that was awkward to think that the blackhawks were the next after the habs...)

[@foxdoe7540]

wtf you talking about, we just stole another draft. 6'3, 210 pounds, right handed D, great offense and great mobility. This is a steal. Besides, wasnt Steve Dangle #TeamChaos? Doesn't he always say right Ds have value just by waking up in the morning?

[@benny6639]

Logan Mailloux was 17 when the events happened. Adds to the context

[@davidli2522]

How does that make it better. 17 year olds can be dumb but they can’t get a pass for something as bad as that

[@Daaaaaaaa192]

I had 17 once. Never committed such crimes.

[@RahRan123]

Auston Matthews was 21 when he assaulted a security guard.

[@sharpy3453]

@@davidli2522 doesnt make it better, but he was a minor, which would mean in canada the media wouldnt be able to report on it and if he doesnt commit any more crimes for a few years his youth record gets sealed and possibly destroyed just like any other minor.

[@davidli2522]

@@sharpy3453 yeah true, but the crime was committed in Sweden, where an exec of his hockey team just happened to be the chief of the area’s police. He also spent longer apologizing to Twitter and the NHL than he did to the girl. Absolutely horrible

[@ziggyoickle3445]

I was a big fan of Bergevin, seeing him swindle in order to keep Price and Allen after the exciting run, looking at his trade history, how few he actually lost despite leaving everyone scratching their heads. But there are red flags popping up everywhere, from concerning moves at the trade deadline which appear to have been aimed at taking on DeAngelo, to potential involvement in Chicago scandal, and now this. I have a hard time believing he looks at his job through a moral lens. He tries to make the team better, he's not there to look like an angel. That's not what I believe hockey should be about, because at the end of the day, it's just a game, meaning it comes second to doing what's right. After recent highs, it's hard to say, but I don't think I want Bergevin to renew his contract. I don't think Mailloux is necessarily deserving to have all opportunities lost to him, but he needs to have demonstrated serious growth first. And the words "demonstrated serious growth" are doing a TON of heavy lifting. I doubt Molson didn't sign off on such a controversial move and the man has money to help victims of such crimes and hope he invests in them as well as this specific case to better Mailloux and ensure the victim is better off

[@elimillard6912]

This video spawned with 10 comments

[@chrismurphy9932]

What's going on with the Blackhawks and Logan Mailloux being selected in the draft with the fact that a bunch of teams were looking at drafting him regardless of what happened really shines a light on how much of a garbage league the NHL is.

[@lou17x94]

The amount of people I have seen saying "he's just a boy who made a mistake" make me sick. Making a mistake and comitting a crime that hurt someone are NOT THE SAME

[@rationalactor8695]

Habs fan here; i hate this. Would have preferred to not draft in Rd1. Ooooof.

[@birdiec]

Pretty sure Aatu Raty was still available. I would have picked him

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@birdiec Stankoven grew as a Habs fan... He'd have been a great option as well.

[@dillon6320]

Steve talk about what Auston Matthews did. Why is he still in the league?