Everything I did to accomplish this goal as F2P!

[@alexforndran7867]

"I currently have 7 characters in tier 3" ah yeah that's where I stopped the video and switched off

[@jerryedwin6790]

Exactly because the alt makes the gold gain easier. even better with that t3 alt dang XD

[@MorionAikanaro]

He says free 2 play but doesn't it cost real money for a 7th slot?

[@mikehoncho116]

I made it to it only takes 25k gold to push to 1370... I can't manage to get above 8k

[@jerryedwin6790]

@@MorionAikanaro even with 5 it should be enough, either you want extra or not. and somtimes the game give free slots when there's an event.

[@riotgun999]

I mean what do you expect from a clickbait vid anyway 😴

[@dejanholmstrand3027]

To save everyone time: get 7 alts to 1375 = win

[@giraffeorganic]

how stupid of an advice lmao, hurr durr Thanks for saving my time my guy

[@duongleai1245]

holy shit :v how to get all your alts 1375

[@alpersahin4614]

btw why 1375 not 1370 ?

[@ACE112ACE112]

7 alts isn't f2p. useless video

[@abraham089]

This is the absolute best guide to for any free to play player to burn out within a few months

[@GoodKyn]

Exactly lmao

[@denizg4171]

ask him how much he spent to the game man

[@fnyan4883]

4 days is enough to burn them out

[@ShelloSongz]

Thats an INSANE roster at the moment. Impressive, but I can’t see myself playing 18 hours a day…

[@delacroixii]

18 hrs a day - said by a casual

[@ShelloSongz]

@You dont ? I’m sorry, like I said before, his roster is impressive. But you need to put in a reasonable amount of time to even get 6 characters to 1370. This is not “just” achievable by being “efficient” and aiming for 1hr and 40min grinds a day.

[@TheSandove]

Getting here was about 10-11hours/day, however now it's around 3hours a day until Valtan release.

[@ShelloSongz]

@@TheSandove Impressive.

[@inksplosiongames]

@You dont 8 minutes max? Well shit I wish I got the pugs you got...

[@mitchelldoherty8666]

>7 characters >f2p pick one

[@TheVejh]

So basically Play 14-16 hours a day and you are set xD for most ppl that’s just not feasible but hey for the ppl who has that amount of time that’s cool. I have played a lot imo and I have a 1380 & 1340 and tbh I can’t see myself making any new alts right now, when destroyer comes I will be pushing it to be my new main though.

[@BadRadYes]

Don't forget this guy played RU/ASIA server so when NA/EU had a fresh start he bought sold on the auction house gear/mats/stones etc. Made prolly 30-60k on under valued items (because most had no idea of values); then used that gold to power level 2 chars to 1370 and NOW he makes tons of gold from 1370+ toons. That's the real gold trick wait for a new server to exploit newer players and whales!

[@shadow2v1]

I got, 1399,1310, 1066, 820, 820 and waiting for the new class, i work and do a normal life xd and spend only 20 euros in the game

[@raizelshadez3122]

@@BadRadYes you are correct, while i did not play any other server i did make 200k during the first 2 weeks which did help later on doing Argos during the 1st week of release.

[@joshstreid7938]

how much of a life do u want he really said

[@MetinCrafter]

Setting it up takes a while, but running like 4-6 Alts doesnt take more than 2-3h a day.

[@CaineGMTB]

I like how lost ark have catch up mechanism to help me when I take a break. I get burned out playing with just 1 char. I cant imagine how much time you spend playing all these alts and pushing them to 1370 😯

[@ronyking59]

Guys you dont need to have 7 alta at t3 to use these methods, you also don't need to play 18 hours a day. He gives alot of usefull guidelines to follow even if you are t1

[@cokefloat18]

I don't think you can reach 1370 with your alts EACH WEEK just because of the events. I have mine parked at 1340, but even with the stronghold honing research, its all based on luck or if you have enough mats or gold to be able to do it

[@matiasortiz9014]

well thats why he mention the gold cost, and that every char 1370 you have, the easier it gets for the next alt since you get more mats more gold more everything at 1370, its all about the investment if you invest gold you proggress faster if you dont you get stuck at 1340 hoping for some luck

[@zhenyucai8688]

@@matiasortiz9014 You'll never make the gold cost back lol. By the time you do there will be 1415 honing buffs.

[@TheWhiskeyBandit]

I cost around 3k gold (2 characters) for each alt I brought from 1340-1370.. so about 6k for both alts after I got main to 1385.. The great honor leapstones on 3 characters each day gets me about 1400-1600g each day.. it IS WORTH!

[@cokefloat18]

@@TheWhiskeyBandit cost you 3k gold for each characters? What server is that to cost only that much. 1g per piece? XD

[@mrsexyarpi]

@@TheWhiskeyBandit xd dont be silly... U dont get more then 6-7 great honor stones pe char... And that is like 400 gold max, nowhere near what u say 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@georgevainglory9620]

That's a nice guide... on how to get burned out fast

[@charlesnetzler2262]

The free mats got me from 1350 to 1355 lol

[@Snow-Order66]

Yep, exactlymy toughts. 2 weeks materials saves and I got an alt from 1355 to 1365... It's not worth at all.

[@Astelch]

@@Snow-Order66 its better to get all your alts to 1340 first then push one of them up.

[@inksplosiongames]

@@Astelch At 1385 you can buy T3 honing buff from stronghold so if you do that you level all alts from 1302 to 1340 with no assistance, just pointing it out you do you and have fun

[@killeras12]

I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up.

[@valsrath]

Wow, this vid is inspiring.

[@DARKCOP2011]

Taking chars to 1370 its not that hard ? I use all my mats to get another of my chars ONLY to 1340 and i went down from 4.9 M silver to 2 M and i spend like 2k gold, JUST for 1340, and now 1370 is supposed to be ez ?

[@Sabacr3w]

It got me 3 Weeks, 3 Thursdays to get from 1340-1370 .. buyed all materials in all shops and did the dailys

[@realgundamsonly]

What would you be buying a shit ton of in market place if you knew there would be a huge bot ban this Thursday?

[@donmid9112]

You should park any ALT at 1325 until you get one to 1385 and unlock the honing buff for ALTs from Stronghold. Its a pain to level beyond 1325 on ALTS without that.

[@joelhodoborgas]

Great vid mate thanks. good tips

[@MegaSkillz101]

10k gold a day and is currently sitting at a solid 1k. gg bro

[@the8thman]

I'm sorry but this video is HARD KAP. I'm completely f2p ( no founders pack or anything , i buy my crystalline aura with my gold ) and have a 1405 main , a 1340 T3 alt and two 960 T2 alts.I ve been very efficient , and pretty much made a fortune of every possible game knowledge mechanic so far ( besides market flipping cause EUC doesnt give that much profit out of those) . I also have a pretty big gametime , plus my honing success rng is above average on my main character . I believe there is only a few completely f2p players with better rosters than that .Currently sitting at around 10-15k gold and 4m silver. I will say however that i didnt instantly start leveling alts on launch , which would probably make my T2 alts being 1340 AT MOST . I find it incredibly sus , that u got all your alts at 1370 , with their overall cost from 1340 to 1370 being around 50k on average for each one ( with leapstones and shards being the biggest wall) . That means you at some point made over 200-250k gold as completely f2p . And that networth applies BEFORE u got all of them to 1370 to make that gold easier .Doesnt matter how many extra hours u put in , the content available for each of your alts is limited .Let's be honest , you ve swiped a bit. And thats fine. But your account is far from f2p , even on 100% efficiency.The platinum founders alone , gives a huge headstart for multiple reasons ,, but still far from enough to have that kind of a roster. Main on 1400 , plus 2 or at best 3 more alts on 1370 would MAYBE make sense.

[@mitsoulas13]

Major BS. Don't waste a minute on this video. Guy claims that he sells all the mats he gets from dailies but at the same time has 6 chars at 1370...go figure

[@MetinCrafter]

Why? Its definently doable. A friend of mine has 6x Chars at T3 aswell. 1x 1400, 1x 1370, 4x 1340, and he late started on EUW, and has pretty bad rng.

[@mitsoulas13]

@@MetinCrafter Missed my point so let me rephrase: this guy claims that he has 6 ilvl 1370 chars as a F2P. This is utter BS and non do-able. Commenting your claim, there is profound difference between having 4 chars in 1340 (as your buddy) and 1370, the later is extremely more difficult, time/resources consuming. You will see for yourself when you reach that point of the game

[@MetinCrafter]

@@mitsoulas13 I have a 1400 and a 1385, and i wasted lots of gold on unnecessary stuff, didnt play the market and actually wasted lots of time in terms of progress anyway. Pretty much T1-2 is just time. If you start those 6 Chars a day, do leapstone dailies, tower, chaos dungeon + guardian raids. Then instantly quest the next story. Its definently doable to have 6x 1370 at this Point. Is it alot of time invested? Hell fucking yea. But its doable. 6x 1400 on the otherhand i‘d look at the credit card direction. Im noticing this on my 4th Char that is close to T3, which i started around the same time as i started my 3rd. I‘d have both T3 already, if i did the dailies on both. But im very lazy and not efficient one bit, which is fine to me. But someone that is this efficient, for sure could do this.

[@xerisz7163]

Your video is really good, alot of people might not understand how scalable it is if you invest in alt, do daily on rest and only spend few hours a day. You just need to know what you doing and how to be efficient. Don't get discourage by people in the comment session

[@ryv7960]

So the core Information: Play more alts, do everything, sell everything tradeable. Ok 😂

[@EddyOida]

And have no Job or Life

[@Hope969100]

ahh thank you

[@kwuganator]

Step 1: Quit your job so you can play 24/7 and level up 7 characters to high tier 3 AND do all the dailies on said characters. (Or keep your job and buy your way there). Yeah super helpful.

[@FRESHY_GG]

Getting alts to 1370 is NOT a good investment right now. Parking them at 1340 is more than good enough and by the time those alts pay themselves off there will be honing success catch up mechanic available which would make pushing those same alts much much cheaper. Also keep in mind that prices of everything on marketplace are VERY different in each region. NA West and NA East are the most inflated regions and the value of 20-30k gold on NA is equivalent to 4-5k on EU due to differences in prices. Also 6:17 you also need Nineveh trusted reputation to craft those potions not only stronghold level 40, which is even harder to get unless you buy every legendary rapport box from mari's shop and farm traveling merchants every day.

[@MetinCrafter]

Yall are on some good hopium that you think we‘ll get honing buffs any time soon.

[@FRESHY_GG]

@@MetinCrafter never said soon, but a good guess is few weeks after valtan

[@TheJackalfilms1]

So many people saying they can't put in 18 hours and day and so many people replying exactly how to not spend 18hrs a day getting 6+ characters up only for the person to complaining to double down and deny it is possible. I've played every single day, the only money I spent is on the founders pack, I still have a social life, I'm going to a Yung Gravy Concert in a couple weeks, I work 10 hours a day, 5 - 6 days a week. Unless I want to quest through a region or gather on multiple alts it takes me about 2 1/2 hours a day to do absolutely everything available for them. That is when not efficiently rotating rest bonus, in which case it takes me about an hour and 15 minutes.

[@TheSandove]

It really is all about how you spend your time.

[@Shinx-LoL]

You pushed 2 characters from 1340 to 1370 in a week when you had 6k gold in your last video? F2P? Yeah sure youre not lying lmao

[@XevnPlays]

exactly just from 1325-to 1367 on my alt took almost 8k gold already. And this char(was my first main just left at 1325) started with 600+ honor leapstone and now im out of honor leapstone. Spent so much guardian stone already too. I hate liars man, i play about 12 hours a day i have 6 char in t3 most are 1325; 2 of them are 1385/1390 and one is 1367. It's usually the gold or material i run out of.

[@XevnPlays]

Also i only manage to get a decent amount of gold cause i sold 2 gg rings 3/3/1 ring with grudge and another 3/3/1 100% quality ring. Sold some other stuff of course too.

[@fbi9007]

🤔🤔

[@sherpagoolsbee8390]

25k? Interesting... Just the other day your video said you used 7k weapon crystals, 18.5k armor crystals, 780 leapstones, 2.3M silver, 450 Oreha Stones, and over 7k gold. Excluding leapstones and silver, I don't know what those sell for on your server, but that's between 45k and 50k on NA West. Plus, your numbers are actually better than average according to Maxroll's honing calculator... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm levelling my alts because I want to play them more, but it isn't a good "investment." Levelling alts past 1340 has a piss poor RoI right now with current honing. My 1370, based on my math, will take 5-6 weeks of consistent play to break even... and that assumes market stability.

[@TheSandove]

I save upwards of 500 leapstones as well as thousands of guardian/destruction stones before pushing, i buy the extra stuff, these characters are weeks in the making.

[@kyle8971]

That's only if you don't get ANY good items to sell on the AH. T2 accessories and stones sell for pennies in comparison to T3 ones and if you get a good roll you are looking at a 10k+ acc/stone or 20k+ for a god roll. Best you could hope for out of a T2 is maybe 2-5k for a god roll.

[@EddyOida]

hey yt money goes straight into the game LUL

[@fbi9007]

@@TheSandove you're missing his point.

[@3mroos4]

Nice guide. Im just wondering about the time you spend daily playing the game? That kinda determines if it's worth the effort

[@TheSandove]

It is a lot of hours to hit this point, But now I can just play around 3 hours daily and log off, I would say it's worth the effort since I am now waiting for content and focusing on my future videos.

[@EddyOida]

Quit ur Job and that Guide works for you! LMAO

[@ayfr1249]

@@EddyOida Yeah, this dude is insane in grinding. In order to get your multiple alts to t3 you need to spend crazy amount of time which most people that don't nolife simply can't put in.

[@yohh-hj1lf]

to add some info to the SH lv 40 crafting, i did some calculations on the splendid hp pot vs other life skills, ASSUMING YOU BOUGHT LIFE SKILL POTIONS Straight to the point: (You must be lv 30+ foraging, lv 30+ excavating) if splendid hp pot price is less than 42g, crafting map with excavation turned out to be more profitable. Splendid hp pot will ALWAYS be more profitable if it's worth more than 51g on the market. anything between 42 - 51g depends on your luck from the excavation map. good luck. EDIT: - I used expert / adept for excavation - adept for foraging - foraging lvl 35 , excavating lvl 45 - i had EPIC gem charm when I ran the numbers - For Punika vs Niheltalop, I found Punika to be overall more profitable. Niheltalop did seem to generate more purple relics, but in Punika you get a chance to open up excavation chest which has (from my experience) about 1 in 5 chance to drop a free excavation map. Plus it's a lot less stressful due to more number of channels available.

[@TheSandove]

Thanks for this info, they are currently 50+ gold in my server so I will take advantage of it before they drop.

[@c87kim]

I’ve found 1 relic, 4 expert craft kits since excavating- but in my last 100ish maps I haven’t found any. RNG is a bitch

[@Corusame]

Where is Niheltalop?

[@yohh-hj1lf]

@@Corusame it's an island North of punika

[@yohh-hj1lf]

@@c87kim yeh i found 2 last month since then none.

[@Pandies1]

Hopefully summer events will be good and we get more

[@TheSandove]

RU events gave more than these, hope so as well.

[@HOZI_Y]

I know im going to sound like a hater for saying this, but it needs to be said. Without straight up showing us the daily routine and the gold pay outs, this all just sounds like bs. And it it pains me to say that. 10k a day, excluding accessories? and you're not even going to show us hard numbers? this video legitimately looks like you're just trying to build an alibi for being f2p when you *might * not actually be. It's one thing to estimate and throw out a ballpark number casually to your friends, but its whole different game here. It's even tougher to prove F2P because there are no methods to actually IRL Trade lock our accounts, so I for one would just appreciate some solid numbers. For example, I'd just start over on this video and do complete playthrough of your day and put the beans the counter. You obviously have knack for making videos and reading scrips, but again, without seeing the hard evidence, i just feel patronized.

[@TheSandove]

I should have provided numbers, but you can easily do the math as well, If you have a character at 1370, do all chaos + guardians and multiply it by 6. as well as an extra chaos and guardian on a 1340 character.

[@HOZI_Y]

@@TheSandove see thats the huge problem with this video. you're leaving it up to us to guess how many materials you're actually bringing in. But fortunately i do have data from chaos dungeons i ran a week ago when i was 1385, so ill just use those numbers instead. (486 guardian stones and 176 destruction stones + 6 Greater leap stones) from both chaos and guardian. Multiply 6... 2916 guardian @ 9g per 10 stack = 2619g 1056 destruction @ 17 per 10 stack = 1785g (honing crystals have been this price for the past few weeks now) 36 GLPs @ 95g per = 3420 (these are actually going up in value) grand total = 7824gold from 6 characters @ 1385ilv that's 1304 gold per char so i'll generously add on another 1304gold for the hell of it since u have a 7th at 1340 that's 9128 gold total from raw honing materials via chaos/guardian you even say here "so the daily activities give me around 12,000 gold just from honing materials alone." time stamp 5:39 IF you cont. gems obtained from boss rush as "honing materials" then... perhaps if you average the gold from selling one T7 gem @ 9000g IF you get a good roll, plus you might expect to fuse only over the course of a week, you're still going to be short of 12,000. can even throw on the pirate coin crystals too, 7x 900 guardians = 6300 @ 9 per 10 stack = 5670g / 7 days = avg. 810g that would put u close. SO its all pretty plain to see now with raw numbers here that you aren't making 12,000g from daily activity but really by combining what you make from of Chaos/Guardian and then adding the average per day from what Pirate Coins crystals Boss Rush Gems you sell in a week. You're still in the realm of F2P and i commend you for that. But you're not out of the woods when it comes to being another youtuber who exaggerates for clicks. And if the math is so easy, then why did you make me have to do it for you? thank you for your patronage

[@AwkoTurtle]

Im unsubscribing cuz of these bogus obviously click bait videos.

[@TheSandove]

Your numbers are quite low and the prices are lower on your server too. This is the minimum I receive from my characters daily, rounded up for easier math: 4,100 Guardians @ 9g/10stack = 3,690g 1,400 Destructions @ 25g/10stack = 3,500g 43 GLPs @ 120g = 5,160g 6 Leapstones @ 32g = 192g Total = 12,542 gold.

[@HOZI_Y]

@@TheSandove good grief you're playing on a region where prices are ridiculous. And if that's the case, then your estimations in video make a bit more sense now with this information. I'll be keeping an eye on you Sandov... still subbed btw, I'm glad you are communicative.

[@Kamehamebrah]

Nice so all I have to do is play half a day and get more characters to T3 than I have slots. Also don't forget to swipe.

[@hellan7344]

no deadeye guide?

[@andrewdestroyer903]

hey can you explain the math on how u make money with splendid elemental hp potions?

[@nekotajni394]

How many characters do you have at 1370? It seems so unreasonable that you're making 12k gold per day since all the mats prices are really low. Are you on NA by any chance?

[@TheSandove]

I am on NA, I do share my current progress at the end of the video. Yesterday I pushed the 2 characters I've saved up materials on for weeks to 1370, I now have 6 characters at 1370

[@nekotajni394]

@@TheSandove That sounds more reasonable. NA Prices are like 2x more expensive than they are here. Good job pushing 6 chars to 1370 though, kudos.

[@davidpauly1797]

Do u gear your 1370 alts with the lego gear and acces?

[@khoinguyenttk]

7 characters in tier 3, stop there, Imma hit the next button video right away.

[@sebastian192]

man you're a beast~

[@Tryoka]

which island 3:20 ?

[@WayneTwitch]

This dude is pretty much doing what i been doing for over a month

[@crypticism1114]

Yet let me guess. He is munc further ahead than you are somehow right? As a “f2p”

[@Paulo27]

Definitely don't wanna buy all the stuff in the pirate shop... Absolute waste to buy the tier 3 shard bags, the hell.

[@I_RiiiGA]

Hell yeaaa! I been doing this also and is been paying off so well! Great Vid

[@Nonamed70]

Good video - but I have to mention this and I hope you dont get it wrong, no offense here! i personally think youtubers and streamers suggesting players to stay 1385 right now is exactly why we ran into this Argos Fiasko a few weeks back, where pretty much the advice was to stay at 1340 and sell all mats. Ofc them releasing it pretty much overnight was the bigger problem that people were not ready for the content when it released - causing the massive shitstorm. Right now we are approaching another one of those break points, arguably even a more important one with the rarity of our acessories changing. I think if you do not want to miss out on week 1 of Valtan (prolly launching in May) and want to profit off of whales and spenders do NOT stay 1385 so you pretty much then have to rushhone and are likely to spend LOTS of money if you are unlucky. So the stuff Sandov is sucgesting here is good yes, but be aware that it has to be executed well to net you the rewards and I think a big amount of the playerbase does not have the capabilities to work with their gold the way veterans have. Just my 2 cents on the topic - I hope you get my point here, love the content nonetheless!

[@something9048]

even tho i am still 1355, but if you want more golds, push your ilvl to 1415 so you can join Valtan later in May. they already give us the roadmap why didn't you just follow it? 3:53 Sandov's recommend kinda misleading in a way. by the time relic grade is out, you can make money by milking whales who spending golds for even a bad accessory.

[@EdKunn1]

wich skin did you use at 7:05 ?

[@TheSandove]

Rapport Exchange skin for Martial Artists(Female)

[@colada100]

thank you for sharing sandov

[@skillznflowz3241]

can someone tell me where i can get those wings?

[@TheSandove]

Soulfist? it's martial artist (Female) set from exchanging at the rapport npc

[@skillznflowz3241]

@@TheSandove thanks man

[@GoodKyn]

Only reason I can think of having this much Alts is having like 5 alts on rest bonus everyday

[@zhenyucai8688]

Terrible advice look at the guys gold he's broke. Only push 1370 on alts if you want the extra content. Each 1370 alt will take months to get your roi. By the time you get close to your roi there will be a honing buff and you'll look like a clown. And a lot of the stuff he mentions in the video are weekly gold sources.

[@leqquiaco6396]

???? Do you even realize how much gold you're getting back when ur character reaches 1370. stop being jelly

[@leGit510]

Anyone that believes this guy is F2P with 7 alts in Tier 3, 6 being above 1370 is a joke

[@Robbi00]

He absolutely paid real money for gold

[@kinshyboy]

u do not lopang una for silver and focus leapstone una on all alt char ?

[@steliospapadakis8749]

If you do your chaos dungeons in your t3 char every day you get sop much silver you dont need lopangs

[@tmdadj6928]

What is z2u?

[@rakras3858]

hey mate, is there another benefit besides the gold to do argos p2 or p3? cheers

[@Charbel99]

I'm free to play too! just spent 300$ on the founders pack but I'm free to play!

[@davidkelly132]

I'm also f2p, only bought crystals with 800€ that you turn into gold but other than that I'm free to play

[@alkaliaurange]

stay mad lol

[@jerryedwin6790]

this game was hard in beginning but it get easier after getting 3 alts with 1370 score makes a lot of different .

[@wagutoxD]

Sounds so easy... 😅 Great info, nonetheless! TY!

[@tobiasstockner8885]

Are you doilg leapstone dailys on your alts or only lopang?

[@TheSandove]

Leapstones, I have not had the need to do Lopang so far.

[@tobiasstockner8885]

@@TheSandove ok thanx, gonna do that too, to push them to valtan later on. Whats the best way to make gold with alts though, beside selling gems and leapstones? Right now i have 3 1370 alts

[@pocker91]

great video

[@seanh3880]

Why does the thumbnail say daily when 80% of the contents are weekly KEKW

[@tobiasstockner8885]

Do you buy rate up mats for your alts? Or do you use only the ones from cube? Also, how ofter do you do guardian raids on your alts?

[@Sevenfishh]

Is it worth it to exchange to pirate coins all of them?

[@hellan7344]

Did you do like all the questlies for the zones or did you knowledge transfer on ur alts?

[@TheSandove]

Back when there was tons of gold I knowledge transferred every time I could, I wouldn't do that anymore now.

[@matthewscully795]

7 character in t3 f2p, this dude straight up no lifes this game.

[@InuzukaDai]

don't bother unless you manipulate the market and save like 300k golds before argos patches, you won't have the resources to do what he did.

[@Tropicocitwo]

You should say you're "Buy to play", the founder's pack (and the extra one they gave out) provided not only an extra sellable Cerberus mount and founder's skin chest, but also a total of 8000 royal crystals. That's thousands of extra gold (at least a month ago before the market crashed), as well as an almost never-ending supply of blue crystals. You also got an extra character slot. Truly free to play only has 6 characters. Other than that, great video!

[@fahadallhaib]

The extra Cerberus is bound and you could never sell it, and the Royal Crystals they gave out could not be exchanged for gold. Same thing with the extra skin, immediately bound. So unless you had the foresight that they would give a free mount and never learned your original one, you only end up with an extra color of the mount.

[@jhiggy57]

It is absolutely ridiculous to state "the current events are quite generous and every week on reset i can easily push one of my characters to 1370". Maybe if those characters were already sitting at 1365. Even if you 1 tap every upgrade from 1340 to 1370 there isn't close to enough mats with the 1385 honing buff rates.

[@klausherro653]

That is true, all those free mats are good for 1 or 2 hones and its all gone lol

[@khemlar4988]

@@klausherro653 Im pretty sure 1 weeks of 14 guardiands+chaos+abyss gold+argos gold+pirate+guild shops+event is 100% to get 1340-1370 at that point its only leaps that will limit u and u can get 300from anguish+11 or more per day per character from una and more form chaos so yeah u can tbh just gold i just upgrading my main to 1400 then work on my first alt to 1370 shards are my main limiter so ill probably have to buy them

[@arildk90]

@@khemlar4988 you can only buy 50 leapstones from anguished pr character (t2 & t3) and they are bound to said char

[@khemlar4988]

@@arildk90 Its 50 per and its roster bound so u can share them

[@molagballin_]

You forgot to add that in order to do this you have to A) be able to play 18 hours a day, every day and B) be able to stomach doing 2x chaos dungeon & guardian on every single character every day.

[@EddyOida]

That Guide only works if u have literally no Life and no Job. LUL

[@friessenpai8017]

It usually takes 3-4 hours to do the dailies on 6 chars in t3 2 Chaos - 10 minutes 2 guardians - 20-30 minutes Unas task - 2-5 minutes 32-45 minutes per char X6 chars = 3.2 - 4.5 hours daily

[@lexnaid4724]

You can rotate rest bonuses on characters with little to no loss on the rewards so you save some time. My biggest mental block sometimes is doing each quest over and over again lmao

[@jimbog119]

@@friessenpai8017 that's a pretty optimistic estimation of how much time you do for dailies. For chaos dungeons, if you do the highest level depending on the character you're using it's closer to 5-8 mins for each full clear, and maybe even 9 if you're using a support class rather than a dps class. For guardians, it really depends on which boss and what kind of party you get thrown into, as I only do it with matchmaking, alot of times we'd be pushing the clear time to around 12-16 mins, and there would be even times that we would fail just because I get into groups who are either too squishy, don't understand mechanics, or just don't use potions or etc which leads up to them dying and inevitably making us fail the guardian. Then onto unas, 2-5 on all 3 daily una's? Which daily do you do? Maybe if you're doing simple ones that you can just bifrost to. But if you're doing something like tooki, ghost ship, alakkir, blackfang's den, or other dailies that needs you to either wait or run around finding stuff like vernese forest then it would take you a whole lot more than 3-5 mins to finish your unas dailies for each character. In my case, for each character, realistically, I spent 1 1/2 or even 2 hours to finish all dailies as I also do the daily event raid and do unas that I need accordingly.

[@MannyB29]

@@friessenpai8017 your numbers are a little off since guardians take more like 4-8 minutes in T3 but chaos can also take up more than 5 min a run but let's just say 3-4 hours a day is realistic. You also aren't calculating the time spent on chaos gates, world bosses, cube runs, boss rush, daily islands and also his guild weeklys to afford the bloodstones, that might mean needing to 5v5 which might take another 30 min etc. How about all the time it cost him to reach this point? All the stories played, the 45-50 floors of towers etc. Even if he is skipping every other story with gold, on 6 characters it's 1000,1400,1600 per story skip, 3 skips possible means 12k gold saved and still needs to play 9 stories that take up 2 hours so 18 hours + another 2 hours for punikka since it's unskipable so 30 hours in story if skips used or 42 hours if all played. How much time is spent of doing the 2 towers? To reach this point it takes an extreme amount of time and it takes over the estimate 3-4 hours if you amount for all the other daily and weekly content

[@elDragonos]

i just hit 1385 today on 1 char and i play since prerelease. my alts are still t1 :( guess i have to work a bit on 1 alt maybe

[@fnyan4883]

This comment section is a goldmine, everyone has his own analogy of the game with proof to back it up 🤣

[@Saiyaman93]

"Yes I am F2P, I only bought founders pack, but it was before release so doesnt count. Also bought some character slots, but it doesnt count because it is not buying gold, just slot for character. Also bought crystaline aura, but it is like subscription fee, so it is not whaling. Ah, and just premium ark pass, it is for skins only, not for materials, so it is still f2p." Whats wrong with admiting you are not f2p?

[@Tehstool]

I don't care if your calculations are off or if you are F2P or not. I care if your advice is good, and the advice overall in this video is sound. However, you made a major mistake in this video by recommending people, or at least suggesting, to use the 3x cube tickets. I know you said it wasn't the optimal thing to do, but some people will do the 3x ticket because of this video, and that is hurting them tremendously. The cube and boss rush tickets give you more value than anything else you can do. You should have stressed how important they are and why you should not be doing the 3x tickets.

[@Corusame]

Do you mean buy both cube and bossrush tickets instead of just cube ones?

[@Tehstool]

@@Corusame No. They both come in the same package. I mean that they are some of the most valuable activities you can do and doing the cube at 3x is one of the worst things you can do. The treasure rooms have the potential to give thousands of gold worth of value. You are losing the chance of 2 runs worth of treasure rooms if you do the 3x ticket. It's a huge mistake. Sorry if I worded that poorly.

[@Corusame]

@@Tehstool ah ok, thanks for the explanation.

[@inksplosiongames]

Agree with this, I only 3x a T1 cube

[@ixBlua]

When you have 6 chars in t3 and the amount of cube ticket we get each week, there's no way you're going to have the time to run them all 1 by 1. I get a few tickets a day with 6 chars in t3 and they stack up very fast. Boss rush is always good to do for the gold but, cube is very time consuming to do 1 by 1 on alts. I only do them individually on my main since it needs the honing mats while alts are doing x3 mainly for the silver from chest, silver weekly for cube and chance of book.

[@LeefTV1]

Shorter version of the video would be: quit your job, leave ur family. Play the game

[@tobiasstockner8885]

Question about gems: Did you reroll any of them, to sell them for a higher price? Currently i have 10m silver and dont really know what to do with it

[@chanj329]

ive been playing for 2 months and im just at 1100 with 1 char (already spent 200+ hrs on this game) how tf long you expect me to have 7 characters in tier 3

[@joelhodoborgas]

Dude played 2 years of LA in 2 months lol

[@Xplicit36]

Question. T3 honing upgrade from Stronghold only vives 10%+?

[@TheSandove]

That's right

[@Xplicit36]

@@TheSandove oh I see. Thanks for the response

[@rc8929]

How to make 10k a day... 7 T3 characters. End of the video.

[@aMarshall_]

Aren't Abyssals roster wide limited ? So you would make 2100 gold and that's it ?

[@salztheberg]

Yoo great vid, can anyone tell me what this soulfist skin is and if im able to still get it, it looks great!

[@salztheberg]

Or is this just the standart argos/oreha set?

[@TheSandove]

You get it from the "Exchange Rapport" NPC

[@salztheberg]

@@TheSandove Oh I see tysm!!

[@cokefloat18]

No lopang?

[@TheSandove]

I can't remember the last time I did Lopang, perhaps in the future but I have not needed it so far.

[@fahadallhaib]

Getting 1400 means you can buy Accessories with Bloods of Argos which is a really good chance for items that sell for a lot of gold. also the Splendid Elemental healing potion already crashed in EU and clowns are selling it at a loss.

[@kells137]

hey man, awesome vid! But I do want to mention that your current process is not possible without swipe, I think you should be more honest about how much you have spent, and ppl will be glad to get that information and your honesty

[@bigboyoguz]

i think its all about how much time you have to grind. nothing is impossible in terms of progress in this game. if you play like 3-5 hours a day you cant expect your roster to get somewhere near to a person who plays 10+ hours a day and knows how to min max his playtime.

[@CHEF2077]

he is f2p but has 10 Chars...that's also not possible since Char slots cost money. I have almost 900 hours and 9 chars myself and only 4 of them are T3.... So yeah, I like the tips but I stay strong behind your opinion.

[@MetinCrafter]

@@CHEF2077 Doesnt mean he p2w his Chars up to 1370, can just mean youre inefficient with your time.

[@bigboyoguz]

@@CHEF2077 may i ask did you also play on another region? Also he said in video he has a founder pack, other than that he is f2p. Buying extra character slots is not swiping imo.

[@youvebeenslain6085]

@@bigboyoguz it definitely is, it’s just efficient swiping. You can still transfer your mats from the other characters to your “main 6” meaning they level faster

[@desrowfighting]

O shit your main is a deadeye? any chance we can get a sneak peak at your engravings and stats?

[@TheSandove]

3-3-3-1 (Lv3 Keenblunt, Ambush Master, Adrenaline and Lv1 Enhanced Weapon) 1435 Spec 470 Crit

[@Genjuro77]

So this "game" has basically become your job and you work for free every day.

[@TheSandove]

Currently just 3-4hours a day

[@CreativeC3]

do you buy mats with ur gold to gear ur alts up? (Guardian stones and destruction) or just hold ur gold. I got 37k and a bunch of t2 chars rn not sure if I should keep holding (5 tier 3 and 4 tier 2)

[@betterdaystocome]

Keep holding you will need it, all of your characters will progress naturally.

[@Max-zk3uw]

No lol AH mats are for whales that’s the point. Buy crystals with your gold and get mats from mary’s shop. If you do the math its way cheaper

[@Biborsschwester]

i nevwr here so much quarck in 1 video

[@ShirasEntertainment]

I’ve put in a good amount of time, main at 1390, alts 1340, 1325, 1100, 900. What’s your total hours played to get where you are? Just trying to gauge if I’m on right track and doing all I can from an efficiency perspective haha

[@TheSandove]

900 hours at the time of the video, realistically a lot of that time was spent on horizontal content. Doing dailies + weeklies takes about 3-4 hours a day at this point.

[@bossarma]

Damn, my dude has 900 hours played wtf. That's like 12-14h a day since the game released like two months and a week ago. I have 455h played and got my main at 1385 + 3 alts at 1340 with around 100€ spent.

[@Tropicocitwo]

@@bossarma I'm at 680 hours with a 1385/1340/1325/933 (this t2 guy is saving mats for the 960 boost this week lol), I've also kept my last 2 slots free for future classes. Spent literally nothing on the game(no founders pack even), and I'd estimate a good 200 or so of those hours are me being AFK watching Twitch/KZbin/doing college work, simply because the game takes forever to load and I'd rather skip that lol

[@Throughtheireyes91]

@@TheSandove you shouldve mentioned that then

[@davidkelly132]

"YES I'm f2p, with $300 founders pack and 10 alts"

[@sebastian192]

when people discuss f2p or not they are really talking about if you used money for progression, founder's pack's value is mostly in the limited edition skins, if you don't sell those for gold it's not like the extra healing battle item chests really help with progression that much. i bought the plat pack myself and the only thing i've used so far from the pack arethe skin, mount, and pet

[@kyle784]

@@sebastian192 he used the royal crystals from founders pack for character slots, which can only be obtained via royal crystals. This is the open and shut end of F2P if somehow you thought buying a founders pack didn't already do so.

[@Rexx0601]

how did u get 6 alts to t3 when the game only gives u 2 fast passes if ur free to play? so 3 of them u played from level 1 to 50 also?

[@TheSandove]

I only played 1 character from 1-50, my main

[@hoshings]

knowledge transfer 👍🏻

[@Rexx0601]

@@hoshings ohhh fair I guess he didn't say they were all diff characters

[@marineghost17]

I thought I was alone when he said 7 characters, that’s insane I can only play 1 that’s why I’m poor 😂

[@Yombikmlbb]

Nice tips and everything but you spend how many times for get 6 tier 3 ? With 500h i only got 2 tier 3 and 4 tier 2

[@m4kky287]

i'm 550h in, and got 1 to 1400, 5 to 1340. Gonna go for my first 1370 next week, i guess time is not everything, it also depends what you do in game that's not straight char progression.

[@steliospapadakis8749]

638 hours. 1385 main /1345 pushing to 1370(started today ) . x4 more at 1340 .i got 1 more at t2 and 3 more at t1 but last 2-3 weeksi dont even get on to my other characters exept the t3 .

[@Bplusss]

How do you have 4 extra character slots if you never spent money aside from founders?

[@TheSandove]

Bought with crystals I received from Founder's Pack

[@davidkelly132]

@@TheSandove Which you ....farmed with alts?

[@waytosexy896]

@@davidkelly132 no , founder's pack like he said..

[@0.7p]

F2P, is spending no money, platinum founder pack gives u a Cerberus mount which u could sell for 300k early game, which was a huge advantage

[@fbi9007]

Yeah he isn't f2p LOL

[@Renvier]

Edit: nvm, just got my question answered after rewatching the video lol

[@TheSandove]

It really depends how many life shards you have on those alts, if you have over 150k i would just push those to 1100 first, if not, slowly gather those shards while pushing main to 1385

[@aquataqi4332]

thanks for the video. what do you think about the korean balance notes today and deadeye EW not receiving any buffs ?

[@TheSandove]

A little bit sad that all other classes got tons of changes while Deadeye got nothing. If anything the balance notes make me want to main Soulfist/Destroyer

[@dn3043]

problem is we have a real life with friends and normal jobs.

[@gagorage2220]

then buy gold or shut up xD

[@spicyramen4525]

you know, I would also like to get some maidens not only high I level so I think I'm gonna pass

[@jonathankaede1767]

I have 3 alts at 1325. Is it better to push them all first to 1340 or push one to 1370?

[@alham9656]

push one to higher t3 and then push alts

[@TheSandove]

When I was in your spot I pushed all to 1340 to be able to do Igrexxion, Abyssal Dungeon and higher chaos dungeons, then i did leapstone dailies and weeklies for a few weeks to save up for the 1370 push.

[@clxssizeu879]

not even my main is 1370 💀

[@jasonbridgewater2800]

You have 10 character slots unlocked. This doesn't seem f2p unless what you're saying is you used the platinum founders pack royal crystals

[@TheSandove]

I used founder's pack royal crystals for character slots.