The best thing about this video is when you turn on the subtitles. Gaspard de la Nuit becomes "spider on me" or "gospel Germany". Le Gibet becomes "Leisure B" many times. And Ivo Pogorelich becomes "Evil Pogo Redditch". So incredibly funny.
@SiliPiano Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time you've taken to make this detailed video Btw, dont forget to link the orchestral version in the description
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, sorry about that. Going to link and put it in description now. But keep the comment, its good for the algorithm :D
@pavlenikacevic4976 Жыл бұрын
That's a cool Kissin story and I think his reasoning makes a lot of sense tbh. At their (world class) level, there is really no point to play a piece if you don't think there's anything new your interpretation can add.
@Bozzigmupp Жыл бұрын
Why not
@oxoelfoxo Жыл бұрын
whose version was it that Kissin loved? didn't catch the name
@pavlenikacevic4976 Жыл бұрын
@@oxoelfoxo François
@andresruvalАй бұрын
@@pavlenikacevic4976 Gould said pretty much the same thing, about recording and playing all music, considering this, the few pieces that he recorded more than once do sound very different from each other, the Goldberg being the prime example.
@chasekimball5999 Жыл бұрын
I have looked at many scores, my favorite is the Nancy Bricard edition, but I am sure the Henle is excellent also. You can tell in some older recordings, e.g., Gina Bachauer, that they are using the Durand edition because you can hear the mistakes, especially in "Ondine." The last time I checked I had 38 recordings of Gaspard, so you know I really love it. My favorite recordings are #1, Minoru Nojima (available on YT), and tied at #2 are the 1975 studio Argerich and the 1958 live in London Michelangeli. The best one to listen to when you are studying is, for me, Abdel Rahman El Bacha, who takes it slower than usual but superclean, you can hear every note. There are many others I love, but I am not going to list them all because tomorrow my favorites might change.
@dominikclarke65452 ай бұрын
Surely you've listened to Grosvenor?! The microscopic effects in the filigree and the sheer power of the climax (and perfect pacing) is unrivalled!
@chasekimball59992 ай бұрын
@@dominikclarke6545 Grosvenor is extremely talented, and I have heard his excellent Gaspard. But I don't own it, I was referring to those in my collection. Given how many recordings of it I already have, it would have to be a truly extraordinary performance to get me to buy yet another one. But thanks for the suggestion.
@andresruvalАй бұрын
I'm using the Nancy Bricard edition and I do like that it has a detailed note about every mistake and technique suggestion (like the D# repeated notes), but i'm still curious if it's worth getting the HV edition?
@CyrusandAurelius Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I will try as it will take many years!
@globalc3849 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Very useful
@jesemepardens9151 Жыл бұрын
34:03 While we're at it, I'm currently practicing Scarbo. There are other parts that you can split (and what obviously me and my teacher both do) like for example 6 bars after the pp I take the f sharp from the right hand to play in the left hand chord.
@ondinehd68892 ай бұрын
Yes, agree: Pogorelich! But I like his Scarbo even better than his Ondine. His musical ideas in Scarbo are incredible, and the way he paces himself in this piece is amazing. He manages to maintain a continuous unifying line throughout the piece, while individualizing all the different sections of the piece. Too many people play this piece in a way that is much too fractured, and is almost caricatural because of the exaggerations they use to denote the various sections and sudden changes of mood in the piece.
@tekraynak10 ай бұрын
Thank you for emphasizing the "Scarbo" part in Scarbo is often played too fast! Alicia de Larrocha does an excellent job of playing everything at an even tempo with perfect rhythm.
@ondinehd68892 ай бұрын
Yes, but her "Ondine" is actually not very good. Arturo Benedetti Michelangelo's is much better.
@billligon4005 Жыл бұрын
My Opinion: I had a piano teacher who told me 'oh, you can't play this piece - it's too difficult'. All it takes is the right finger on the right note at the right time. Simplification, yes, but if you truly love the music you can play it.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
Simplification indeed!
@ICanPickLocks Жыл бұрын
How well will be a completely different thing but almost. I mean I wouldn't advice playing gaspard right after für elise, but with enough practice you can play anything. Just that it would take less practice if you already were very good at piano.
@douwemusic Жыл бұрын
...with the right muscles that minimize fatigue and optimize speed
@dwacheopus2 ай бұрын
Same
@pianoch14382 ай бұрын
@@douwemusicyou learn that while practicing a specific part of a piece. Being good just means that you know more techniques, thus you learn faster, however you are not better than someone that does not know techniques. Beginners just learn the tehniques while learning the piecec
@isaiahjarmon4515 Жыл бұрын
Seeing how the auto captions render the foreign language words is it’s own spectator sport
@teelurizzo8542 Жыл бұрын
Interested in the quasi 'Giant Steps' section, that is, the section w/ that sequence of third-related modulations. 25:47 - 26:00 = there , that section. Wish you had played the whole sequence, and talked about that section.
@hardiksharma825 Жыл бұрын
great video, thank you very much :)
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@bjornviir3333 Жыл бұрын
i can almost play Gibet, i was shocked that its quite tough for a slow piece...but i love it.
@thisismoyukhsworld20222 ай бұрын
Trois Mouvements de Petrouchka by Stravinsky is very similar in difficulty when compared to the Gaspard.
@pavlenikacevic4976 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing Ondine (my favorite next to Pogorelich): Grosvenor
@nandovancreij Жыл бұрын
grosvenor's recording actually still blows me away with his dynamic control and articulation
@quain50633 ай бұрын
I've heard Grosvenor's live Gaspard once and it was truly unforgettable.
@theol2192 Жыл бұрын
Great fingering suggestion on bar 57 of Ondine! Just tried it and it's smooth like butter!! What fingering do you use for the same gesture transposed at bar 60?
@Realdidizhou Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. A quick Q: I heard many recommend Edition Durand for french composers, what are your thoughts on that? Maybe that's neither here nor there. Just curious. I got the Wiener edition.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
in general I think Durand is good, but for the Gaspard they really messed up, they might have fixed their mistakes already but until the mid 2010´s there were still issues as far as I know with that Gaspard edition. Henle edition came out in 2010 and has fixed all mistakes! Otherwise I would also recommend Henle or Durand for other french composers
@tfpp1 Жыл бұрын
I would consider Gaspard, along with Liszt Sonata and Rach 2nd Sonata, to be some of the most difficult pieces in the standard repertoire.
@ludimagister-2005 Жыл бұрын
oooo, I can play it
@GiacomoPhilipp92 Жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for all the Information. Only if you are interested: I really would like to know, if it is possible to play the ondine in the dynamics Anton Batagov kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5XZc4prhNCkrpY interprets it, or if it is digitally manipulated. Best regards, Giacomo.
@Ludwingvanchopin Жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know after how many years of piano playing you achived that.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
After about 13 years!
@tedallison6112 Жыл бұрын
Well--having performed Gaspard in several concerts---interestingly my toughest parts are in the slower Le Gibet middle w those ridiculously wide spaced chords w tons of F&C flats throughout ( ugh!) Last year for about 4 months I played the whole set followed by my other 2 partners in "piano crime" Petroushka & Islamey. I eventually dropped Gaspard but , do play the other 2 daily as my " Hanon"( haha!) I've repeatedly heard that each of these 3 compositions are the supposedly " hardest" piano pieces. I 100% disagree. The JS Bach WTC Books1& 2 are infinitely more difficult. I'm currently playing the 18 Mozart Sonatas & I would also put them( as a whole) way above the 3 war horses. Bach & Mozart inevitably are the foundation & basis of the other 3---even Petroushka---play all 3 & try to determine which is harder(?) They all help each other symbioticly. My 8 yr son Thor hears me play all 3 constantly& he always says " all of them" when I ask which is harder. Go figure!
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
This is a 30+ min vid about my experience with Gaspard and also tips and tricks, but fine, if you really want to focus only on the "difficulty" part, I cant help you.
@tedallison6112 Жыл бұрын
@@PianoTechSupport -aaah.. & why would you think yr qualified to " help" me dude? Furthermore--I'm not in any way ,shape or form seeking " help"(?!?)
@juliorodrigez-fuentes6629 Жыл бұрын
@@tedallison6112 I am afraid you are absolutely right.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
@@tedallison6112 please lose the arrogance and let's move on ;) PTS
@pianisthenics Жыл бұрын
Sure, you played all that 🤣 post one video from the concert not just bragging around KZbin with those 3 and 27 Chopin études and think you are special. Most of the pianists play all of them anyway, nothing special.
@finlybenyunes8385 Жыл бұрын
The subtitles are dreadful... Gaspard isn't taking us to Scarborough Fair for heaven's sake!
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
Subtitles are auto generated by KZbin.
@phineasbluster2872 Жыл бұрын
My hunch: your WILDLY out of tune piano is an inexpensive E. Asian product that suffers as well from perhaps NEVER having been properly regulated and voiced in its life! Maybe it's 4-8 years old and entirely neglected! I highly recommend you have your areas best technician devote the 3-4 days if requires. (But You may also have a cracked pin block. You better find out now. ) If you've never practiced on a beautifully regulated and tuned piano, your world will change when that happens. Good luck.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
My piano is tuned once every 2-3 months by a Steinway tuner who knows what he's doing. I practice a lot especially on the high registers and blow up the tuning in 2-3 weeks max ^^ thanks for your concern though. And my conservatory has great instruments (Steinway, Bösendorfer, Fazioli) which I practice on, so I had to smile a bit about your comment of not having practiced on regulated pianos ;) also, this should really not be the focus of this video. cheers !
@phineasbluster2872 Жыл бұрын
@@PianoTechSupport i disagree. The focus is You and Ravel!! You are a terrific pianist and therefore it's a shame to hear your instrument block you. It screams forth with incredibly distuned scale notes. If it were tuned, then your relationship with M. RAVEL might become more enchanting. I cannot understand your implication that because a so called "Steinway tuner" visits your piano that therefore it's in tune. It is desperately out, and you may need a new tech (unless your piano has developed a pinblock crack).
@phineasbluster2872 Жыл бұрын
@@PianoTechSupport Some piano players go thru life without ever having played a beautifully regulated, voiced, and tuned piano. Those are s a huge turn-on when encountered. And many schools house neglected and/or ignorantly handled instruments. I have had experience with all this.
@PianoTechSupport Жыл бұрын
@@phineasbluster2872 thank you very much for your comment.