Everything Wrong with PRETTY LITTLE LIARS... *in retrospect*

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Serena Skybourne

Serena Skybourne

3 жыл бұрын

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@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
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@tomast7339
@tomast7339 3 жыл бұрын
in the "all (or most) of the examples when the writers seemed like they were building up to something but completely abandoned it " I guess you will talk about Courtney. if so, I can give you information about this because I found a lots of evidances that she was supposed to be in the show. something like 50 evidances.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomast7339 wow that would be brilliant, thankyou! I'll include it in the video
@tomast7339
@tomast7339 3 жыл бұрын
here the ultimate evidance that Courtney was supposed to be in the show that I never saw people talk about: page 5. the 5ht page from Alison's death report countains information about possible killer due traces. Garret wanted the page to remove his (and Jenna) connection to Alison. eventualy he was arrested: his traces maches to the ones that were found on the victim, but Garret never met Bethany. so how his traces were on the body? simple: in the original lore the victim was Courtney. Garret traces were on her body when he met "Alison" in this night. Garret and Jenna meeting is the only thing from that night that Alison never talked about. so it means the dead girl was supposed to be Courtney. and in the first four season that are many, but so many clues about her existnce
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomast7339 thanks so much Tomas!
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of writing, allison was the most well written character but a horrendous human being almost bordering on sociopath. I really love Spencer and tolerate Emily.
@maia9056
@maia9056 3 жыл бұрын
Arias only personality trait ✨Ezra✨.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo
@BurnItUpp2009
@BurnItUpp2009 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true 😭✋
@daisydaisy0121
@daisydaisy0121 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this comment is 110% accurate. Esp if you’re a teen girl who falls prey to an abuser. Literally this is what became of me at around the same age. You utterly lose yourself & the person becomes so central. You’re like a fly in the trap. Now if they had actually made Ezra the final A it would have tied it all up (from the overt romanticizing of their hugely problematic relationship-we just see it all from Aria’s perspective- to the holes in Aria’s personality...it would have tied it all up so perfectly. What a disappointment..
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@daisydaisy0121 Yeeeesss!!! Im rewatching the show right now and it's around the time he comes back to rosewood to teach while Aria is still a student and some student made a comment to Aria about her and Ezra's relationship and i'm just wondering how or why they even let him come back when she's still a student. It's also weird that he was with Ali for a small time and KNEW who Aria was before he met her...he just...gives me the skeevies now everytime I see him.
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@daisydaisy0121 he also would've made the PERFECT A. I wish they created an alternative universe where that happened 🤔🤔🤔
@I.Q69
@I.Q69 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, Ezra was a predator. He first had a relationship with Alison before she disappeared. Alison disappeared when she was fifteen. Ezra was an adult when he got involved with a fifteen-year-old. Some may argue that Ezra was not at fault because Allison never told him that she was a minor, but when she disappeared, he started investigating her life, stalked her friends, and then intentionally approached Aria, who again, was a minor. He intentionally started working at Aria's school as her teacher to stalk her and extract information for his book. He intentionally started a relationship with a sixteen-year-old girl. That is creepy, disgusting, and predatorial. It is so terrible that the writers thought that a relationship between a teacher and a young girl was appropriate to romanticize to a target audience of mainly teenage girls.
@sara-vb1fq
@sara-vb1fq 3 жыл бұрын
she was 14 I think and thats even worst
@theelsystem6232
@theelsystem6232 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Ezra 100% knew Aria was a minor, and I seem to remember someone finding a line from Lolita in his book about Allison when the camera panned over it. Kinda seems like he's a creeper to me! It's weird though bc the relationship with Aria/Ezra was already so bad before they went and added in that creepy book situation that made everything he did like 1,000x more deliberate and creepy.
@yolandamedina6912
@yolandamedina6912 3 жыл бұрын
When i first watched pll i was very young and ezra and aria were one of my fav couples but now that i understand all of this its just so creepy .. why would they portray smth like that in a show for literal teenagers. Second the whole show really did not a good job with the plot, especially with the whole spencer twin thing like… who asked for this?
@shiararuiz5171
@shiararuiz5171 3 жыл бұрын
In the book it was pretty clear that ezra and aria relationship was wrong it end and they almost have sex but they don’t I was kind of uneasy when I watched the show never like ezria, spoby and emison ships only haleb
@leilanyx
@leilanyx 3 жыл бұрын
@@sara-vb1fq pretty sure she was fifteen at the time their relationship started. still doesn't make it right, of course, as bc alison's birthday is in june, it was likely only fairly shortly after the fact they started dating (he finds out about her age the night she disappeared which is september 1st). admittedly the timeline is pretty confusing, seeing as she was seeing ian around the same time as she was seeing ezra.
@yukil.spencer3848
@yukil.spencer3848 3 жыл бұрын
Frankly if Aria did turn out to be A, it would've been super satisfying for a fan since you'd be like I did it! I theoriezed correctly! But no the ending now is the evil twin no one cares about
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
😥 they messed up so bad
@sophie9984
@sophie9984 3 жыл бұрын
They did the same with Gossip Girl. Everyone theories were correct of who Gossip Girl could be and they changed it. WHY is it so bad, when fans are theorising right?
@shoegirl927
@shoegirl927 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the twin thing was a homage to the books but I have always wondered what would have been Aria’s motive for being A? I definitely think it could have been amazing.
@asadpillay7380
@asadpillay7380 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoegirl927 yeah, I agree, I never realized it was an homage to Allison and her twin, but Aria would've been super cool!
@rahbeeuh
@rahbeeuh 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoegirl927 her motive? She could've snapped bc of Ali's treatment or it could've been revealed she had a traumatic experience in Iceland 🤷🏽‍♀️
@BlehBleh24
@BlehBleh24 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Alison was drugged, tied to a bed and inseminated and nothing happens to the "doctor" made me so mad. And then she and Emily have the babies and become a happy family like nothing happened, no trauma is shown and the subject is never addressed again, it's completely absurd
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 3 жыл бұрын
You are so right I hated the writers did that what happened to alison was full on rape it's so disgusting and evil to me 😡🤬🤢🤮🤯😬
@Darkrose517
@Darkrose517 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching the show a couple seasons in...WTF? That's so gross.
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 3 жыл бұрын
@@Darkrose517 you did the right thing by not continuing to watch the later seasons of the show it just became a hot mess and the finale was so awful 🤯🤪😬😡🤬
@epizzle9232
@epizzle9232 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! All of it was just ridiculous!
@kristenjensen5757
@kristenjensen5757 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this didn't hard enough on HOW INAPPROPRIATE almost every male figure is in this show. It wasn't just that Melissa's fiancé kissed Spencer. It was also that he is AT LEAST 6 years older than her. Then the show handled that situation by having her family blame SPENCER. Not Wren. He is the adult and they ostracized Spencer for it. Then when they found out Spencer and Ian had a thing...who again is about 6 years older than Spencer, no one was appalled by that. But as the story continues, we find out he's hooking up with Ali as well. Which Melissa knew, and was mad at Alison. Again, these are adults preying on children and every time the children seem to be the ones who to blame. Not to mention, Jason, Garrett, and Ian were also filming girls getting dressed. Then you have Garrett who is cop sleeping with Jenna, another high school kid. Wilden who was sleeping with Alison, when she was 14-15 years old. I also think Wilden is older than Melissa, Ian, Jason, and Garrett because he becomes a detective by the time the show has started whereas Garrett is still a uniform cop. Of course Zach hitting on Hanna, which Aria immediately doesn't believe her. Then you have Byron who was sleeping with an adult, but it was his student. So, at least it's age appropriate...but still an abuse of power. Obviously, Toby and Jenna. Jenna was raping Toby via coercion and no one seemed to say that. They never call these things out for what they are RAPE. I know in Pennsylvania the age of consent is 16. But, a lot of these happened BEFORE THEN. The show completely disregards all the inappropriate behavior over and over again. Closest thing comes to Byron and Ella icing out and forcing Aria and Ezra to break up.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, it was messed up. I did go into detail in this video but ended up cutting it out when editing because i didn't articulate it in the most effective way, but I'm going to go into more detail in a future PLL video. Thanks sm for watching xx
@adawuz7342
@adawuz7342 3 жыл бұрын
Also... Ezra! This is the thing I struggle most with, especially rewatching the show now that I am older. I mean... most people watching (when it was released) were probably teenage (underage) girls, and this really did seem totally okay to me then! Which is mostly because it was portrayed as something good - and eg the mother not understanding and being really disappointed in Ezra was shown as something bad/ she doesnt understand. I feel like Byron and his affair was handled okay-ish. But with the rest, I completely agree.
@fatbitch7168
@fatbitch7168 3 жыл бұрын
that whole thing about Wilden and also a possible pregnancy wasn't very clear and also Allison was one of the filmed girls and she was Jason's sister 🤢🤢🤢 I liked Jason but tbh wtf lfkskdd also his thing with CeCe?????
@alex_n215
@alex_n215 3 жыл бұрын
This show had a huge problem with romanticizing inappropriate relationships and trying to perceive them as normal.
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, she didn't go hard enough on that. Technically Ian took those videos, and Jenna wasn't on the NAT club, but just wanted the videos when she found out about them because they incriminated her, which makes her thing with Garret worse because he knew about the videos and could have been using them against her. She may be painted as a rapist in this iteration (it was the other way around with Toby raping Jenna in the books, and they only changed it because they basically wanted him to get with Spencer) but still shouldn't be taken advantage of by an older man. As for Ian, he was Melissa's age and she only graduated in 2009, making her about 2 or 3 years older than Spencer, who despite spending five seasons in high school technically only graduated in like 2012-3. I hated how Alison came back and started fibbing about everything including the guys she was with, claiming she never slept with Ian despite staying in his room at that golf resort with the camera pointed at the bed they slept in, and Alison racing to delete the footage on that camera as soon as Melissa started banging on the door... All so she could fake innocence about his murder while simultaneously owning up to killing him, but claiming he was alive when she left the room, making that shit a riddle. Of course he was, he was still falling when she left! He didn't die before he hit the ropes, so that makes Alison innocent now? Even though we saw he was dead and gone when the liars walked past him that night, and despite the barn he was found in being staged to look like a suicide, the forensic analysis proved that he had died way before being shot at the barn. But nah, despite overwhelming evidence we witnessed with our own eyes we are suPpOSed To BeLieVe AliSOonn!
@justviewing2667
@justviewing2667 Жыл бұрын
I was totally fine with Hanna’s anger. I feel like her reaction to Allison being back after all the crap they’ve been through is much more realistic than everyone else’s. She was traumatized and pissed and rightfully so.
@millieboon
@millieboon 3 жыл бұрын
Alison was so cool in the early seasons like this mythical creature that u can’t get to closed to, but when they bring her back she really has no consequence from her past actions like why was her character like that in the first place, why were adults so wary of her she just seemed untouchable but when she is back she becomes soooo needy and more of a hassle to have. Like yes she has been through quite a traumatic time but the way they try to redeem her was by us feeling sorry for her and she just became a completely new person altogether
@brookm4399
@brookm4399 3 жыл бұрын
YES! She would constantly be homophobic/ fat shamming/ a bitch in general to all of the girls and they practically just welcomed her back in when she showed up AFTER they all came to realize how much she used them....... like thanks for throwing all of that character development (for all 5 girls) STRAIGHT out the window. I know she was 14/13 at the time of her disappearance but she was another level of evil. I miss that love/hate relationship people had with that character or really any connection to one of the characters in general by the end of the show :(
@maddiem1908
@maddiem1908 3 жыл бұрын
Right? In my mind nothing beyond season 5 never happened.
@maddiem1908
@maddiem1908 3 жыл бұрын
@@brookm4399 just a side note, but I believe Allison was 15/almost 15 when she disappeared, but in the books (don’t recommend) she’s not even 13! Which makes her relationship with Ian, who was a senior in high school, soo gross and literally no one in the book cares
@fatbitch7168
@fatbitch7168 3 жыл бұрын
and we never knew more about those two years she spent running away from A
@fatbitch7168
@fatbitch7168 3 жыл бұрын
also if she was A it would maybe make sense for her to constantly play the victim but yeah it's a huge change in attitude etc
@emilyhinton4551
@emilyhinton4551 3 жыл бұрын
Wren being A could’ve been so creepy. Like imagine a whole plot line where he was just madly obsessed w Spencer for all those years. I think that would’ve been really good and interesting tbh
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
YEssss it could have been so WEIRD
@chrissy3875
@chrissy3875 3 жыл бұрын
Yess
@Nicol3c87
@Nicol3c87 3 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaasssssss!!! I would have loved this & I would have never guessed it
@pupax2000
@pupax2000 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that they had planned big A to be Aria, but were so pissed about all the fan theories guessing correctly that they changed it. That is such a shitty reason to derail your whole show. There were so many interesting and creepy story lines that led nowhere on the overall plot. Anyway, still a guilty pleasure of mine. I honestly think that if they had made the whole last season about the evil twin and showing her meddling and life, it would have had a greater impact and maybe worked out OK. But introducing her in the last half of the last episode was just such a fail.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
yes, maybe if they showed her having an impact and ruining Spencer's life for longer that could have been a little better. And omg- in terms of Aria- what a wasted opportunity. They were trying so hard to not be predictable, but I honestly would have preferred if they just stuck with their original plan
@sadwhitesoxfan17
@sadwhitesoxfan17 3 жыл бұрын
The same goes for Gossip Girl, Gossip Girl was going to be Eric but people realised that before they could reveal it so they went with Dan which didn't make any sense.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadwhitesoxfan17 Writers need to stop trying so hard to "surprise" us
@azuki_O
@azuki_O 3 жыл бұрын
8 always think about that quote from George's RR Martin, something like "if you write it so the butler did it, but you decide to change it at the last minute because people guessed and have the maid do it instead, then the story won't make sense" . A shocking twist has to be planned to be good.
@simplyjuannie5128
@simplyjuannie5128 3 жыл бұрын
They still messed up, because I remember reading the Alex as AD fan theories before the series finale. They were slightly different, but for the most part... they were spot on.
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the writers did more with Mona’s character!! Yessss they OWE HER!! Aghhhh!
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW it's so disappointing- yes Mona has done bad things but so have the girls. They're not perfect and should include her
@mattDettling
@mattDettling 3 жыл бұрын
They really shit the bed with the spin off. Not making it the Mona show was a mistake. Mona as a French spy would have been amazing.
@damelsaleary3718
@damelsaleary3718 3 жыл бұрын
I think Mona’s acting was incredible! I loved her.
@speeeee35
@speeeee35 3 жыл бұрын
Right? She was the ONE character they kept coming close to ALMOST giving us what we wanted too (even though they never did at all lol) so it made it so much more of a tease... You know? It wasn’t like with Allison where they butchered her so bad that by like end of s5 we knew she was never gonna be cool again 😂. “School Marm” Allison was there to stay. It really comes down to the fact that they completely de-sexualized Allison once the actress gained weight (which is especially creepy when you remember that when she was thin she was under aged). It was like she went from being this confident cool sassy girl to- even if she WAS nicer and reformed- why would she suddenly be a person who wears only cardigans and likes to stay home and bake pies? You know? They just destroyed her long long long before the travesty of the last season 😂.
@rhonwenwww
@rhonwenwww 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree I loved monas character but I’m sorry if you hit me with your car on purpose I’m never being your friend again 😂
@velvetdawson617
@velvetdawson617 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish they had planned EVERYTHING out from the begging, so even the S7 flashbacks (to pre-S1) had all the actors and actresses looking young. It would have been really cool and just amazing
@love4ever553
@love4ever553 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how they made this whole redemption arc for Alison. She was fucking psychotic. And that’s why we loved her!
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it was a really bad idea to give her a redemption arc alison was so great a villain they totally should have kept her as one 🤯😬😤😡🤬
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree! It was like a completely different character came into the show. I seemed so defenseless when she came back. I understand she may have had trauma...but i feel like i wouldve accepted her redemption arc if she was given more backstory to the years she was "missing"
@francescapatti2934
@francescapatti2934 2 жыл бұрын
I couldnt agree more. Allison was straight up EVIL. She blackmailed literally everyone, whole ass adults were terrified of this psychotic 14 year old. She was horrible to her friends and a total crazy bitch the WHOLE TIME. Throughout the seasons you find out just how horrible she was. Manipulative, rude and EVIL. She seems untouchable, almost like a deity or something and then they retconned all of that?!?
@lithiumkid
@lithiumkid 2 жыл бұрын
psychotic means delusional, hallucinating, and/or irrationally paranoid. Alison was none of those things, she was grounded in reality just fine. she didn't show any signs of the psychotic disorders, certainly not schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
@belle8732
@belle8732 Жыл бұрын
the redemption arc was hardly redemption, alison was still bad and they just turned her into a completely new dish rag of a character. it felt like there were two separate alisons- pre disappearance and post, neither were redeemed. they took away everything we both loved and hated about alison, completing lost her character and it was really sad to me. i loved alison in a way
@bitchlasagna1
@bitchlasagna1 3 жыл бұрын
I would’ve LOVED for A to be one of the girls
@bitchlasagna1
@bitchlasagna1 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the writers had figured out that one of the liars would be A before season one, so the whole time they’re having secret shoots with the liar where she goes and records stuff such as her planning an attack on her and her friends while they’re in the woods or something and so then 8 or however many seasons later there’s the reveal and they can show this footage of the liar doing the plotting and then record all the liars actresses finding out who A is after 8 seasons and finding out that the one Liar had known who A was for 8 years cuz she’d been playing A for 8 years. A real life PLL
@snowleopardpaws1618
@snowleopardpaws1618 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Aria had been A
@antoniaboevska3984
@antoniaboevska3984 3 жыл бұрын
It should’ve been Aria. It should’ve always been Aria
@LiinnCo
@LiinnCo 3 жыл бұрын
“We’re halfway through the episode AND👏NOTHING👏HAS👏HAPPENED👏” it was infuriating to say the least.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
THANKYOU
@nomdeplume2213
@nomdeplume2213 3 жыл бұрын
I think i stopped at season 5. It was the season before CC came out as "a" or whatever
@ellie5995
@ellie5995 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomdeplume2213 same I stopped watching after season 5 so I have no idea what happened after
@savitarthegodofspeed1975
@savitarthegodofspeed1975 Жыл бұрын
YES. YES. THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THIS SHOW. I am a newcomer, a man at that, a guy who needs action from his antagonists. A was hard to like after Mona became revealed, I loved her reveal and Toby's? His was just as good, but here's the thing. I disliked Toby being A because it was revealed in the middle of the season which made it clear he was just a pawn, and the entire time I was just waiting for it to be revealed "Oh no there's ANOTHER A" and it wasn't shocking. A was so passive and did NOTHING notable for me to say except run over Hannah. A getting violent and trying to murder the Liars was far better UNFORTUNATELY I also believed it would make A just some rip-off of Ghostface. I REALLY REALLY LOVED Hearing how A got more violent in the later seasons, because that is what I was expecting, A to TRULY rip into their lives and let them know this isn't a game, you're not going to find about me and live. Your life is on the line when you're my target, your innocence, your freedom, that's what I wanted. I swear, like most of the showtime I watched season 1 - 4 was them trying to figure out who A is or find out About Ally or the other insignificant storylines, with small hints one after another about A or Ally and them A sends them the occasional scary text and then there's a cliffhanger and then boom end of episode. This is why I skimmed through the latter half of season 4 and then gave up on it and found the rest out via KZbin. It left me so impatient. Mona may have not done much but her reveal more than made up for it, it was brilliant and the way they tipped off her being A because of her choice of gum was even more brilliant. I mean the way she lost was a huge letdown because somehow teenage girls are overpowering literally anyone even if they're grown men. But yeah them beating Mona made sense since she's petite and all but her A storyline fell off short because of that, I feel like she AND Spencer Both should've taken that fall to make it better. Ultimately, this show has too little Action.
@LiinnCo
@LiinnCo Жыл бұрын
@@savitarthegodofspeed1975 Mona was the best 😭😭😭
@emmamaria6697
@emmamaria6697 3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t really go in depth with Hanna’s eating disorder or Spencer’s addiction, they just used it for the plot of a couple of episodes and then forgot about it which was really unrealistic. It was like they just kept adding onto things about each character for the sake of it and throwing it away later, when in real life it would really affect them. I feel like if Hanna’s eating disorder and Spencer addiction could have been used throughout the whole show it would have made the characters more relatable idk
@EffyLand
@EffyLand 3 жыл бұрын
OMG I was so annoyed by that, didn't watch the entire series and I feel like one big thing that really put me down and had me stop watching was those two things specially with Hanna's eating disorder like man you can't tell me she just went to being fine and never struggled with that again
@emmamaria6697
@emmamaria6697 3 жыл бұрын
@@EffyLand Yes and all throughout the show everyone would make fun of her and her love for food omfg, like her friends were so insensitive
@r3allyr3agan
@r3allyr3agan Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget how hanna breaks her leg and it's healed the next episode
@divdesmitpieci6767
@divdesmitpieci6767 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hated how in the end all of the liars were forced to be either married or pregnant or planning to adopt kids. They were still in their early 20s. Why make it a necessity to have a "married, with kids" ending for each of them as if it's the only way to be happy? What about their careers, dreams, and other interests beyond making a family?
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you are right the writers should hadn't done that they I just wish they were kept single for a much longer time 🤯😬😤
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
It really makes me think the show forces you to start a family in your early 20s and a lot of the time it doesnt happen that way.
@mikaelemafi4618
@mikaelemafi4618 2 жыл бұрын
It's because of the fact almost all pll fans wanted them to get ship with someone and it seems like the writers wanted to please the fans which obviously wouldn't happen in real life.
@aminas31
@aminas31 2 жыл бұрын
right... especially with hanna, she had her fashion business and was doing well with her career... and then boom, her and caleb get secretly married and she announces pregnancy on the last episode, why??
@mikaelemafi4618
@mikaelemafi4618 2 жыл бұрын
@@aminas31 yeah well Hanna boss was a bitch to her.
@velvetdawson617
@velvetdawson617 3 жыл бұрын
what I find weird is that no cast, crew or writers said to Marlene that this was shit. Like they all seemed to be like YEYUS Brit evil twin
@sparklingdaisy3169
@sparklingdaisy3169 3 жыл бұрын
They're paid to be enthused about the weird plots. Pretty sure the cast hated the direction the show went. But, have to show face so they didn't get fired.
@bestever2682
@bestever2682 3 жыл бұрын
They probably were over it
@nadirimyers6643
@nadirimyers6643 3 жыл бұрын
The timeline really pissed me off. Like did they have no one keeping track of that ? Make a list. Get a damn calendar in the writers room!
@oliversmithlawrence
@oliversmithlawrence 2 жыл бұрын
thinking how two seasons happened in the span of Halloween to Christmas
@TheGanation
@TheGanation 3 жыл бұрын
I thought A was Ali's twin like in the books. That would have made the blonde twin flashback make sense and for Ali's personality to change.
@fatbitch7168
@fatbitch7168 3 жыл бұрын
also the desire to hurt or befriend Ali's friends would make way more sense than Alex's desire to steal Spencer's life and identity
@sonder8310
@sonder8310 3 жыл бұрын
That would've been so cool when it wasn't really Ali who came back
@inactive2190
@inactive2190 3 жыл бұрын
The showrunners were just obsessed with trying to shock the audience I think. They changed so many important and great parts of the books just for the sake of changing them. They didn't plan out any plot lines ahead of time and it shows...
@audraa4067
@audraa4067 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I never understood why A put Ali in jail if Ali was the one "Charles" really wanted. I think it would have been cool if the A team needed Ali in jail because that's where they could do the twin switch. When Ali was in jail, A had no problem getting to her. So the plan could have been to get the real Ali locked away in solitary confinement to rot and be forgotten. This would help me understand why the police were tipped off that Mona was alive. Mona being alive led to Ali being let out of jail but if was easy for A to get in and out of the prison to torment Ali then why not keep her in there? But if freeing Alison by showing Mona alive in the dollhouse meant freeing evil twin Ali well now that's a good plan. Evil twin Ali is free while Allison rots in jail and the liars are locked up in the dollhouse. And then at some point real Ali could be brought to the dollhouse too in secret because, again, getting in and out of the prison is no problem for the A team.
@Sweetestdiva14
@Sweetestdiva14 2 жыл бұрын
I would have been flipping the fck out, that would’ve been amazing.
@rivyr7029
@rivyr7029 3 жыл бұрын
They rushed and forced the Spaleb relationship for some cheap drama. That relationship was pointless and added nothing to the story other than being a plot device for other relationships.That just goes to show you how the writers just ran out of ideas that they had to force subplots like this.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!! Caleb and Spencer didn't even seem to notice each in seasons 1 through 6A. Why would they suddenly like each other?
@rivyr7029
@rivyr7029 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne Yup, and some people like to point out that their friendship scenes made their relationship “not forced”, but it still was because those few scenes they had were strictly platonic and had no romantic hints whatsoever. Not to mention, most of the time they had scenes because it had something to do with Hanna. I also found it strange how Spencer, whom we know takes academics seriously and wasn’t satisfied with Toby being a small town cop, suddenly was just okay with being with Caleb who didn’t even have a degree. That didn’t make sense to me
@ashleyhernandez9155
@ashleyhernandez9155 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about that storyline. I must’ve blocked it out because it was terrible
@barbs8019
@barbs8019 3 жыл бұрын
it was just so bad and made no sense
@user-rn2sn4fj4z
@user-rn2sn4fj4z 3 жыл бұрын
Idk as someone who watch the show first time while knowing the spoiler, I knew about Spencer and Caleb dating in season 6/7 and towards those season you can see that Spencer and Caleb had few scene together working together (it’s looked like they were trying set them up for the later season) but for me they had more chemistry when they’re friends and working together, then them actually dating in later season
@Liquidchromex
@Liquidchromex 3 жыл бұрын
girl off topic, but yall remember that plot about a fokin bird singing a phone number? I can't these powerful minds
@fatbitch7168
@fatbitch7168 3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha that was a pretty good idea imo and if the bird parrotted ominous lines it would be so disturbing
@rahbeeuh
@rahbeeuh 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what led to Ravenswood?
@gillianeslera3924
@gillianeslera3924 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted ali to be A lmao she was never a part of the "liars" she was the leader but the main four didn't really become friends until ali's body was found also I hated that she became "nice" ali was a bad bitch and the writers ruined her
@barbs8019
@barbs8019 3 жыл бұрын
MHM. they ruined her character and made her the weak one 😢
@hejti3894
@hejti3894 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordcharnell610 Alison being A would really boring, she was already a big bad for like 5 seasons and she wasn't even ˝alive˝
@hejti3894
@hejti3894 3 жыл бұрын
someone else being A is way better
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
OP is reading my mind. I had to double check the user name to make sure it wasn't me that wrote this XD Ali being A wouldn't be boring. Just because something is predictable doesn't mean it's a bad call. And if they had done the work it would have been a satisfying end regardless. Lbr this show was seven seasons long, and every character was speculated to be A at some point. There is no character that would have been "shocking". Even the evil twin thing was theorised. Doesn't matter how far fetched, every guess possible had already been made. Trying to outsmart the audience by pulling a character out of thin air in the finale while leading everyone to think it's a character we know, isn't surprising or satisfying, it's dodgy and shitty. It's making fun of the audience and playing a cruel prank on the viewers just to make themselves seem smarter and more capable than they are.
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how crazy it would be if Aria (and maybe Ezra) was AD and whips out a gun at her wedding BAHAHAHA that reveal would have me ON THE FLOOR SCREAMJNG
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
like the drama
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
YES THAT WOULD BE SO BADASS
@ryanh.8697
@ryanh.8697 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh I posted this theory on another vid! I was thinking Ezra was AD and Aria was about to marry him but Mona figured it out came to the wedding and shot him.Because if they're married she wouldn't be able to testify against him...
@dc9067
@dc9067 3 жыл бұрын
Genius.
@magdajochy
@magdajochy 3 жыл бұрын
The most frustrating thing is Maya's death. I could have never gotten over it.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
so unnecessary!!
@magdajochy
@magdajochy 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne Yeah... I was literally rewatching seasons for clues to know all the why's and who's ;) In hindsight, it was pointless, but fun :)
@TheActualAldo
@TheActualAldo 3 жыл бұрын
It was literally the worst death in the whole series. She was THE best girlfriend / wife material for Emily. They truly cared for each other and brought so much life into each other's lifes, starting with Maya helping Emily out with her sexuality and her family drama over it, being so different helped them too, and she also boosted her confidence, everything looked so good. But they had to kill her. Ugh, still can't get over it.
@anonymousbread7672
@anonymousbread7672 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheActualAldo And it wasn’t even related to the main plot either! They just threw it in there for pointless mystery.
@morganf1968
@morganf1968 Жыл бұрын
I still haven’t tbh
@user-hs2hf9vt5m
@user-hs2hf9vt5m 3 жыл бұрын
Wren being A is just PERFECT. Like guys, he has been in the show since the very first episode. He is a fucking doctor(meaning that he could plant fake evidence easily cuz the show has many things to do with medical records and etc) and has connections in Radley(as we saw he was there when Mona was in there). He has a thing with Melissa and he could have been manipulating her to do stuff. Also he is obviously jealous of Toby so it makes sense to lets say send Yvonne as his spy, who is in Spoby's way, instead of her just being there and then dying without any reason. I hated the fact that the writers have decided to put a really nice character in Spoby's way. Because I felt really bad for hating her(cuz Spoby is like my OTP). And when they finally decided to get her out of the picture, they kill her off. Why? It caused a lot of drama for Toby and a crack between him and Spencer, because he can't just hop up in her bed after his love died. The whole Alex thing just makes it worse. It would have been great for Yvonne to be from the A team and be a bitch. Like, seriously, you could make everyone else in the other ships way a frickin' hatable dude for no reason but when it comes to something that would make sense both for the story and the relationship, the writers just go out of space and fuck it up. Why, for God's sake With the way it all ended, it would have been better if the whole finale was at the end of s6 A. And if it was all about the infamous big cute fanserving Ezria wedding, they could have just added something cliche but beautiful like some scenes from 7 years after, showing all of our favorites happy together with children or engaged or married or whatever.🥲
@dadada8464
@dadada8464 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaceydonnelly4821 no they changed it bc it was all over the pll blogs,full of clues,and marlene couldnt handle being outsmarted by the fans... ultimately It was all about her ego smh
@SarahE1982
@SarahE1982 3 жыл бұрын
Spencer and Toby did end up getting married but a casual throw away comment by Alison on the spin off is not how we should've found that out.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, especially when so many people (including myself) never watched the spinoff
@SarahE1982
@SarahE1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne In that case, everything I learned from the spinoff: Spencer and Toby eloped in secret leading everyone to wonder if she's pregnant. Hanna and Caleb had a baby boy named Aiden. Aria and Ezra adopted a baby girl named Katherine and one of Aria's books is getting turned into a movie in Hollywood. Emily and Alison got divorced and Emily is raising the babies alone while Alison lives on the other side of the country with the Perfectionists. Alex and Mary escaped from Mona's French dollhouse and are on the lam. And last but not least, you didn't miss anything skipping the spinoff, it was not good. That's saying a lot with what a huge mess the original PLL turned into.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@SarahE1982 Emily and Alison got divorced?! That's tragic. Emily deserved better
@rivyr7029
@rivyr7029 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, as much as I love Spoby, it seemed like the writers weren’t interested in putting them back together until the last episode. You can see this in the writing of their breakup and the fact that the writers barely focused on Spoby vs Spaleb as much as Haleb vs Spaleb. It’s like the writers nearly forgot about Toby in that messy situation. It kind of felt like their story was “over” that the writers didn’t feel the need to let Toby be in the love triangle whereas Hanna and Caleb’s story was written with unfinished business. Plus, they had Toby actually marry and chose Yvonne over Spencer until she died, so it made Spencer seem like a second choice 😞. The writing was horrible in the last two seasons with forced breakups to force pointless relationships (Spaleb) to have cheap drama instead of just leaving the ships alone and focusing on the mystery
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@rivyr7029 this is on point
@dgaller06
@dgaller06 3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing PLL has done was get impressionable teenagers to root for a relationship between an underage student and her teacher. It was so inappropriate. Equally as bad was the fact that a grown woman was championing this relationship. I. Marlene King was the person in charge of the tv series, and she's there championing such an inappropriate relationship. She's ruining other characters to keep this relationship going. Noel Kahn had a lot of potential, until Marlene decided to sacrifice his character to keep Aria and Ezra together. It was not ok at all. I don't understand how more people weren't calling this out. How were parents ok with letting their teenagers watch a show that romanticized such a relationship?
@ChrisAtheist
@ChrisAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I remember for example Life unexpected where A teenager had shortly a relationship with an teacher the parents found out and threatening him with prison or leaving the city, he did leave the city and later The teen understand that the relationship was wrong Then we have one tree hill where the same happened Here a friend goes to the principal and tells him,but the teen who dated the teacher said it's not true and they didn't do anything Until she found out he cheated on her and then she told I think if I remember correctly but she did it only as a revenge thing not because she thinks it's wrong Sadly a lot tv shows and movies Romanticism it that's one of the reasons why in reality teens don't think it's a bad thing and starting to date their teacher or other adults
@farawila5212
@farawila5212 3 жыл бұрын
honestly when it comes to these type of series where there is a mystery etc they should seriously just plan out everything from the beginning so that everything seems cohesive
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, that makes more sense
@Bollywoodlover100
@Bollywoodlover100 Жыл бұрын
it makes no sense that they didn’t as the books were right there for them to follow
@mickcrump7799
@mickcrump7799 3 жыл бұрын
Was it necessary for Alex Drake to have a British accent? The fact that they even made Alex/AD British at all points to the fact that Wren was more than likely originally meant to be Uber A along with Melissa
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
What an incredible point, I'll mention that in my next PLL video
@kasyoung
@kasyoung 3 жыл бұрын
i think it was maybe so we could tell them apart but it was just awful and laughable
@jamesc7916
@jamesc7916 3 жыл бұрын
She has a cockney accent (from a certain area of London). There's no such thing as a 'British accent', c'mon guys!
@designerdiva423
@designerdiva423 3 жыл бұрын
That’s such a good point
@laurendovey226
@laurendovey226 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesc7916 don't even be insulting that's not even a cockney accent it was absolutely appalling! They should have checked Troian could actually PULL OFF an accent if they were going that direction. My jaw hit the floor at the noises coming out of her mouth 😭
@robbiesmith8055
@robbiesmith8055 3 жыл бұрын
I hated hearing at the end that people bullied Paige's actress. This happens So Often and it disgusts me. How pathetic and entitled do you have to be to think you have a right to direct hate at a performer for doing their job? They have little to no creative control over their characters, they just play them. Attacking performers for being given bad writing is such childish bullsh*t, god I hate people.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
It made me so angry hearing about it too. People can be so cruel.
@delenafilaurentis543
@delenafilaurentis543 3 жыл бұрын
yes but she is a racist so ...
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
Or it could’ve been better if Alex kidnapped Spencer in 7.10 and gave us both perspectives in the last ten episodes- we can see them slowly figure out and see her be AD
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
YES it would have been so much creepier! Honestly, you should have written it
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne omg only if you were my co-writer
@RobbyH94
@RobbyH94 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I've been saying this too! Jenna could still be the one to figure it out in the end
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I wish Alex got introduced earlier in the season. Maybe in the story but earlier in the season would have probably made the last episode more acceptable and made the last season more exciting
@beatrizlucciolazache
@beatrizlucciolazache 3 жыл бұрын
i cannot stop laughing at you dragging paige omg i relate so much she was TERRIBLE
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
what were the showrunners thinking?! 😂 She brought down the quality of the series so much
@jessicacurbeam2990
@jessicacurbeam2990 3 жыл бұрын
Paige deserves nothing but misery I stand by what I said 😂
@laurine____7543
@laurine____7543 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicacurbeam2990 sorry but its too extrémist
@jordyn2888
@jordyn2888 3 жыл бұрын
like she nearly DROWNED Emily, and then she’s just going to act like that didn’t happen?
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
Paige was a great character and the best main romantic interest of any liar and you are wrong. She was the most loyal partner and despite a few flaws and mistakes, she was honestly a genuinely good person who really made some of the hardest and most mature and selfless decisions in the show. I don't get the hate. She never tried to "drown" Emily as you guys claim. She tried to scare her off and yeah it wasn't her best moment but it doesn't compare to some of the shit the guys have put the other liars through. Your darling Caleb completely took advantage of Hanna, and even went as far as to sleep with her in season one whilst working for Jenna, spying on her. Ezra is Ezra and Toby sold out Spencer and worked for the A team in exchange for info on his dead mommy. You are so hard on Paige for one mistake that ultimately didn't even affect Emily, while the girls were completely screwed over time and time again by worse characters who get excused because you find them attractive.
@peakyblinder8888
@peakyblinder8888 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who actually liked the whole dollhouse bit? I thought they did pretty well in making that creepy. But I completely agree about the failire of Alison. Such a strong character in the first few seasons and then she becomes a weak, passive, unnecessary character? Also why did Mona never get a proper love interest after Noel?
@carolynczerwinski1314
@carolynczerwinski1314 3 жыл бұрын
Mike?
@malcarlos7591
@malcarlos7591 2 жыл бұрын
I like the dollhouse episode
@zubi6301
@zubi6301 3 жыл бұрын
i love the alison flashbacks in season 1 my favourite one was when alison and aria were running away from mona and aria caught her dad cheating i just loved the drama of it all
@aathenaiz6151
@aathenaiz6151 3 жыл бұрын
THE DRAMA
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
They had such good flashbacks in the beginning of the show!! Thats what keeps me coming back to the first two seasons.
@zubi6301
@zubi6301 3 жыл бұрын
@@madisonkent1544 I agree I watched pll but only watched the 2 seasons cause it was so good but I stopped after the Mona reveal cause everything after that goes so confusing and plot Holes don’t make sense
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@zubi6301 there did seem to be an abundance of plot holes...and that is also a reason why i didnt enjoy the later seasons as much either
@zubi6301
@zubi6301 3 жыл бұрын
@@madisonkent1544 when mona was a it all made sense bc of her motives but the cece reveal and Alex one was not it
@hillarysantiago8563
@hillarysantiago8563 3 жыл бұрын
one of the tells of good writing, imo is when you can rewatch the whole show again and think "holy shit, how did I not notice that" or "I can't believe so and so was going on at this time and we didn't find out until later". with pll, I can't go back to season 1 and truly believe that Spencer was written to have never been Veronica's daughter, or even that Ezra knew Alison before she disappeared (wtf). the first and second halves feel like two completely separate shows and barely anything from the first couple of seasons seemed to matter once alison was suddenly alive. they gave us half assed explanations to SEASON long mysteries. it was hard to trust Marlenes story telling after that.
@liesah9240
@liesah9240 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, the show's biggest problem was that horrible wig Alison wore on Halloween.
@spencer-pz6sz
@spencer-pz6sz 3 жыл бұрын
- emily was done so wrong. her relationships were awful. she should have had a love interest like toby or caleb, and she had that with maya!! they shouldnt have killed maya off. - alison was also done wrong. alison was a phenomenal character, they absolutely butchered her. - most of aria's storylines are centered around ezra. its so annoying. i actually really really like aria, and lucy hale did a phenomenal job playing her. i genuinely wish aria was A. - aria and ezra get too much screentime. their relationship gets really annoying after a while. - hanna's relationship with caleb was the best. no doubt about it. - so much filler in pretty little liars. an absolute nightmare.
@malcarlos7591
@malcarlos7591 Жыл бұрын
For me Spoby is the best couple
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
Samara and Emily had WAYYY more chemistry than Paige and Emily- I HAVE NOOO IDEA WHAT THE WRITERS WERE THINKING
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
ARE THEY CRAZY?!!
@kaylabounds0615
@kaylabounds0615 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me but Maya is the only one of Emily's love interests I liked. I really wished they wouldn't have killed her. I think I could've gotten on board with Samara and Emily, but they cut her character and their ship too quick for me to grow to really like them. I get why people don't like Paige or Allison at times they were quite toxic tho I do think there were moments they were good for each other, for a small period of time, but neither should've been endgame.
@kindkatelynful
@kindkatelynful 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but wasn't Samara in her 20s when Emily was in high school.
@kaylabounds0615
@kaylabounds0615 3 жыл бұрын
@@kindkatelynful She was at least 18 or older because she was in college. I don't think we were ever given a specific age tho. I think just like saying Ezra and Aria's story would've been better if he was 18. Like he, Wren, Ian, Wilden were all 24 or older.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
@@kindkatelynful yikes i only just found this out
@leonisophie6029
@leonisophie6029 3 жыл бұрын
Making Wren A would have made so much sense because in one of the episodes in season one after the girls block all messages from blocked or unknown numbers and Wren shows up drunk at Spencer`s place when her parents aren`t home and says: "I`ve been trying to call you but you blocked my number" . That would bring it back to the beginning and actually make sense for once
@RossieMarrie
@RossieMarrie 3 жыл бұрын
My thing with Aria and Ezra is not even the fact that he's her teacher, is that their meeting wasn't casual, it was all planned by him, and that's worse.
@patriciaramirez2982
@patriciaramirez2982 3 жыл бұрын
Allison could’ve had the redemption arc while still using all those qualities that made her queen bee in the first place, just her using it for good instead of for evil personal reasons
@RebekahRambles
@RebekahRambles 3 жыл бұрын
They could’ve revealed “spencer” as A to both the audience and liars and then revealed in a twist it was Alex, you’d have had the double slap shock with the audience and liars and would’ve been way more effective
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
I'll mention this in my video about all the A reveals, what worked and what didn't!
@ciaburri6159
@ciaburri6159 3 жыл бұрын
I think we can all agree the cw does NOT know how to finish a show properly
@barbs8019
@barbs8019 3 жыл бұрын
they kind of made us think that aria was the main character in the beginning because it started out with her and most stuff revolved around her in the beginning and aria was absent sometimes which could have been when she was being A and they should have stuck with that..but then they switched it up a few seasons later where it revolved around spencer.
@nadirimyers6643
@nadirimyers6643 3 жыл бұрын
I used to skip scenes with Paige lol cus I can’t.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
lmao i know, theyre all such boring scenes.
@TheActualAldo
@TheActualAldo 3 жыл бұрын
@@SerenaSkybourne Ya'll so mean lmao. I agree she wasn't that good of a character, but she wasn't like trash or anything. She was indeed weird, needy, and intense at times, tho. I'll give you that
@Quinn91202
@Quinn91202 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
They had SOOO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OUT in the finale, but they chose ALEX?!? I’m agreeing to EVERYTHING you’re saying omg I can’t believe I’ve been watching your PLL videos for over an hour now bahh
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
hehe awww I'm glad you're enjoying them xx
@mattDettling
@mattDettling 3 жыл бұрын
I just started re watching the series and boy howdy ... gotta say re watching this show at 24 compared to 14-16 is wow mind blowing. No wonder I’ve had literally so many issues with inappropriate relationships growing up.
@dc9067
@dc9067 3 жыл бұрын
You look like Cody Christian
@100SmilesAway
@100SmilesAway 3 жыл бұрын
With how much she tormented us, Marlene King was AD the whole time 🤭
@sofierudolf4786
@sofierudolf4786 3 жыл бұрын
The Alex Drake story would have been better if she grew up in ravenswood. It could've made a lot of sense if she were closer to the girls and the other characters. And the Ravenswood stories could be connected bc of that
@simplyjuannie5128
@simplyjuannie5128 3 жыл бұрын
But then Caleb would have seen her while he was in Ravenswood.
@esthersimons
@esthersimons 3 жыл бұрын
@@simplyjuannie5128 not necessarily
@primadonna9087
@primadonna9087 3 жыл бұрын
But then she wouldn't have her incredible british acccent
@Kay-us9eh
@Kay-us9eh 3 жыл бұрын
@@primadonna9087 she could’ve grown up in The uk and then when she was older she went to ravenswood
@Quinn91202
@Quinn91202 Жыл бұрын
@@primadonna9087😂
@paulae4033
@paulae4033 3 жыл бұрын
I think Bethany is younger than Charlotte. She was 16 at the time of her death making her about 1 year older than the liars. Cece was at least 6 years older than the girls. So I think Bethany was 7 when she killed Marion which is hilarious to think about.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
lmaooooo
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly any situation with Marion confuses me because of the flashbacks of Marion getting pushed off the roof to Toby and Ali are hanging out (who are teenagers) when Marion walks in.
@ChrisAtheist
@ChrisAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
They we're changing Bethany's age alot At first Bethany seemed the same age than Charlotte but then they make her the same age as Alison which doesn't make sense
@legendary2553
@legendary2553 2 жыл бұрын
That whole storyline was so dumb
@monasplan
@monasplan 3 жыл бұрын
Mona slapped Spencer in the season finale so she could get the trust of A.D. Once she had A.D's trust she could figure out who A.D was and tell the girls. Once again trying to help them but... they still left her out.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
poor Mona ):
@tannerstubbe
@tannerstubbe 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it's possible that the producers/writers made AD Spencer's twin because they thought that Troian is a phenomenal actress and was the only one that could actually pull it off. Unfortunately while Troian is an amazing actress, even she couldn't make that horrendous writing and finale pay off.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
she was carrying the show on her back
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
Trojan was clearly Marlene's favorite, regardless of skill. If they could rework the whole show to make it about her and cut the other three liars out they would.
@SchrodingersKitties
@SchrodingersKitties 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason they had Alex have that creepy infatuation with Aria was because Marlene knew some people in the fandom shipped Spencer and Aria. They would even have them say “Sparia” in the show, referencing their ship name. So in a completely backwards way, they saw Spencer’s evil twin stroking Aria’s hair as fan service lmao.
@elijahwoodonascooter9349
@elijahwoodonascooter9349 3 жыл бұрын
PLL was the reason why I stopped watching teen dramas that cast 20-something year olds to play teenagers. It allows the writers to get away with a lot more creepy shit that would be seen as completely unacceptable or even traumatic if it were played by an actual teenager. At this point I view this casting strategy as plot hole and have lost all patience for it.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
100%. The age gap relationships on this show would seem so much more predatory if the girls actually were teenagers. I know when i was 16- I was (expectedly) very baby-faced.
@pythonjava6228
@pythonjava6228 3 жыл бұрын
IMO the show didn't suddenly get bad in season 7. From season 5 onward it was 95% pointless filler with stuff happening in only the first few and last few episodes. Season 1-2 were great. Season 3 was OK. The Cece reveal in season 6 was trash, the Toby stuff was trash and the Ezra stuff was trash. And it stretched my disbelief that the girls didn't involve adults sooner. Like they have parents???
@marie.naturallysims2179
@marie.naturallysims2179 3 жыл бұрын
They tried to involve adults but A kept on threatening them with their secrets or erasing all evidence of A. Season 2 they told their therapist and she was threatened. In fact Hannah went to the police in season 5 and before she could show all of the A text, all evidence of A was erased from her phone and she got arrested instead.
@DanielMazz
@DanielMazz 3 жыл бұрын
@@marie.naturallysims2179 I found it s.ow from season 1 and relationships dragged out throughout each ep
@selinag1884
@selinag1884 3 жыл бұрын
I find it really sad that they never talked about this thing with Jenna and Toby more because it was so dark and it could have given a great message about how boys can be victims of abuse too. When I was first watching it I fully thought that that was where they were going and I would have really respected them for talking about this topic. It also made Toby kind of an interesting character because at first you thought he was that bad guy but then there were some things that contradicted that and finally you found out that he was a victim too. But their relationship just sort of stopped being a problem. There were these very icky scenes when one of the liars was in Toby's home and you could see his and Jenna's toxic relationship. But they never resolved it. He lived in a house with her for so long after that and she just sort of stopped abusing him. They could have made it a bigger storyline. The liars could have helped him get out of that toxic situation. I can not stress enough how good of a message they could have sent. But they just dropped it like so many other good storylines
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
they sent such a bad message
@velvetdawson617
@velvetdawson617 3 жыл бұрын
also, how was Ali affording to be roaming around NY for like two years. Like I know she was doing her daily-run off the mill parental blackmail, but like that would have cost thousands upon thousands of dollars.
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the but where she hit up Aria's dad for 15K? First ten, then five. Yeah, she was loaded. And Aria's dad was by no means rich, other people would have paid more..
@dc9067
@dc9067 3 жыл бұрын
She probably blackmailed lots of people for money before she dissapeared in case she ever needed it
@sweeety969
@sweeety969 3 жыл бұрын
@@dc9067 she clearly planned the whole thing way ahead of time. She even teased it to Spencer when she asked her about her diaries and she admitted they're for her to carry on after she was 'dead' I honestly think it had less to do with A and more to do with her trying to one-up the liars in every way conceivable. Like she made it a point to duck with them and be elusive to maintain their interest do they wouldn't find out she's such a basic bitch lol.
@jimmyhu6014
@jimmyhu6014 2 жыл бұрын
22:20 Finally someone mentions how unnecessarily high tech Cece's office is! It showed that she wasted time and money to build herself what is practically a Star Trek captains deck to do her evil plotting. Using hologram technology (something I'm not sure is even possible to that degree yet) was way overdramatic. It took us out of the what the show has been so far. It would've made more sense to just make it a regular, but expensive office with a tv monitor on the wall and an electric pin pad lock on the door.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, it rly took me out of the story, it was too weird seeing this fancy technology
@maia9056
@maia9056 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that always stuck out to me is how often the liars would accuse and try to set up Melissa. However when it comes to Hannah’s mum, Mike or Ezra. Everyone protects them. Hanna literally wanted to hand in Spencer’s pregnant sister it then she says “I don’t care what my mom did I’m going to help her”, during her arrest when it was still unclear whether she did it. What happens when it’s Spencer’s family. When Mike looked like A material, Aria refused to accuse him but would be the first to accuse and trap Melissa. Spencer was stuck defending Melissa and Jason but when it came to everyone’s else’s families it was fine.
@jessicacurbeam2990
@jessicacurbeam2990 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree season 7 doesn’t exist😂 like Marlene really thought that it was good Toby would’ve knew it wasn’t Spencer when they first kiss it’s like her friends aren’t real friends because they would’ve knew it wasn’t Spencer in the first place
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the script writing is terrible
@julelune
@julelune 3 жыл бұрын
true, i would be so offended if my friends or partner wouldn't realize it's not me lol
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
Especially when Toby and Alex (pretending to be Spencer) had sex and he couldn't tell she wasnt Spencer. That drove me up the waaaalllllllll. Surely Alex wouldve done some moves that Spencer wouldn't have done or she looked different or...i dont know. But yeah.
@jessicacurbeam2990
@jessicacurbeam2990 3 жыл бұрын
@@madisonkent1544 I mean they was broken up for awhile sure he learned some new tricks and Spencer learned some too😂😂
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicacurbeam2990 hahahaha 😂 thats true! Then the next time the actual Spencer and Toby have sex Toby could say "where did all those cool moves go?" And Spencer would stop and say "umm...that wasn't actually me, remember?" 😳
@lilianavalles8449
@lilianavalles8449 3 жыл бұрын
I loooveee the emo version of Hannah it gave her a new light it was so fresh to the “dumb blond” character
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
I was OBSESSED with this show- I’m rewatching right now and I’m DREADING the finale
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
God, good luck 🤞
@gleerious
@gleerious 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@maia9056
@maia9056 3 жыл бұрын
Aria…the most infuriating character on the show. Sells out her family for Ezra. Blamed her parents when they were rightfully upset about her and Ezra. Can’t stay single to save her life, and when she’s in a relationship, she cheats on every single one of them. She doesn’t care about her friends. When everyone was looking for Spencer, she went round to Ezras, even calling Spencer ‘the weakest link’ when she was having a mental breakdown. She killed a person and got away with it. She’s extremely selfish, she does everything for herself, like joining the A-team. She slut shamed Hanna for no reason, it’s funny Mona called her ‘the compassionate one’ I was yet to see one ounce of compassion from her. Don’t even get me started on her acting…In short, I hate Aria with a passion.
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about Mona!!!!! The poor thing deserves better, if the girls can forgive Alison then they can forgive Mona!!
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
😥
@merliiiinn
@merliiiinn 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite relationship in the show by far is the friendship between Toby and Caleb! In contrast to the liars, they have actual things to relate to each other; both their girlfriends are being harrassed and scared, they both feel helpless and want to change it, they're both loyal and loving people. The reveal that they're both working to uncovering A themselves, with them sipping coffee and staring at that whiteboard full of notes and all, I LOVED THAT! I hate that we didn't get more scenes like that. Once Ezra joined the two it kind of turned weird and less badass for me? Probably because he's, well, creepy (It kinda gave me the same feeling as that Christmas episode where the liars' partners surprise them in Christmas-underwear and all I could see was Ezra, half naked, standing between people that were recently his students) and the writers gave him this omnipotence about everything relating to the liars very suddenly for the plotline with his book? Like he used to seem genuinely clueless as hell, and suddenly he turns into this master brain who knows how and where to get information from? He felt like a very disruptive force in the friendship between Toby and Caleb in those scenes. (Also, can we talk about how Ezra was constantly hanging around investigations and stuff involving the police when something had happened to Aria and nobody questioned it then, but OH NO, if they were seen in the comfort of his home, THAT'S when people raise their brows?)
@naimaahmed9730
@naimaahmed9730 3 жыл бұрын
Something about Paige confused me a lot because she’s shown to have a dark side, seen when she tries to drown Emily and in a flashback Alison has a back injury and she says “pig skin” (Paige) kicked her and Spencer even says she’s a bully and there’s a penalty named after her. So did Alison bully her because the show for the most part makes there relationship seem more like a rivalry, but they muddy it when Paige starts talking about how it lead to self harm this is a huge problem because it’s cheap and is never brought up again until season 5 when Allison’s return makes her physically ill but beyond that it makes Alison seem even worse then she actually is and makes her redemption even harder to believe I know Alison’s treatment of Mona lead to mental disorder but there’s never any hint that Mona was a bad person before Alison, so it could be explained with she brings the worst out of people which is just an extension of her mean girl persona. The writer proved they never intended for Alison to come back or have a redemption arc because at the time we find out about Paige’s problem with her it’s season 3 and we already know she’s a bad person but this should make her unforgivable at least to Emily but it doesn’t the writers, really just wanted to have their cake and eat it.
@TheWonderGirl23
@TheWonderGirl23 3 жыл бұрын
Paige was on the A team she hated Alison because she tortured her secrets of her sexuality and feelings for Emily. Plus Paige recognized Alison grip on Emily which made her a little resentful. Once Paige acknowledged all her issues and gave Emily an ultimatum she left Rosewood and was one of the more mature characters in my opinion. She always mostly knew what she wanted .
@patriciaramirez2982
@patriciaramirez2982 3 жыл бұрын
We also need to talk about those scenes at the end of some episodes where A would do some creepy stuff with like something with the girls that led absolutely nowhere
@smolztosetz
@smolztosetz 3 жыл бұрын
Your description of watching the finale is literally perfect.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
💗😆
@nameless568
@nameless568 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss, I definitely agree with you on the Highschool part! I’m currently in high school and was in middle school when I watched the show and it’s soo unrealistic. Especially bc they always had so much time??? They would just get food before school? LKKE whut That part made me really mad when I was younger haha
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
haha me too, and them going out for dinner constantly and being able to hang out whenever they wanted
@EffyLand
@EffyLand 3 жыл бұрын
I really hate this about teenage series, they're always high school students (while the actors can be effing 30 yo) but they NEVER act like high schoolers or have school duties or anything to do with that, it's like they just throw the school to have some interesting locations but that's it
@lithiumkid
@lithiumkid 2 жыл бұрын
​@@EffyLand high school makes a lot more sense for the plot. i wouldn't buy those girls all ending up in the same college post-high school, or even the same city. plus its a show about being stalked & trapped with the people who wanna harm you, college is not conducive to feeling stuck and trapped, college = freedom. you can literally just never go to class, & drop out or transfer somewhere else if you want. if they were adults they could move anywhere, & change their phone numbers without having to explain why to their parents. they couldn't be involuntarily committed to a psych hospital or forced into therapy, & the parents couldn't limit what meds they're given or who they date, call, or hang out with. the girls could even stop leaving their houses altogether once they get paranoid, cuz there wouldn't be anyone asking questions. idk what they'd replace all the formal school dances & prom storylines with, & it would make less sense that not all of them have their own cars. in the actual show they incorporate the school a lot, the school play, the lock-in/sleepover thing, needing to study & raise their grades, needing a tutor, the debate club, yearbooks, even the content of their english assignments are tied into the plot. the new stepsibling plot & the stories involving their parents' love lives would make less sense & have much less impact.
@KennethJamesYT
@KennethJamesYT 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO YOU ARE DRAGGING THIS SHOW- they deserve it LOL
@o0BlackSand0o
@o0BlackSand0o 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the twin twist coming when they showed random scenes of Spencer doing things like looking at a family photo album happily when she had been having family issues. And when she was seen at the airport with Wren, the way she behaved was off. The moment I saw those things I thought it was strange, and once I realised I just watched the rest of the episodes on auto pilot to see if I was right.
@nicematerial
@nicematerial 3 жыл бұрын
I have found a weird hobby that is uniquely KZbin. Hearing people talk about shows I don't watch is my favorite (sorry Serena that's how we spell it over here as you know)! I first would listen about reality TV and the description is better than the shows. I'm enjoying this is the same way!!!
@nicematerial
@nicematerial 3 жыл бұрын
*in
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
i love doing that too!! So much fun
@Anam.Fatima19
@Anam.Fatima19 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Love shows/character analysis videos
@user-wu5zg9wz2r
@user-wu5zg9wz2r 3 жыл бұрын
This show was so problematic and I didnt even see it at the time (just as Sex and the city) I am glad its not just me who realized!
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely didn't notice a lot of the trashy stuff when I was a teenager/kid, but now I'm older i see it very differently
@bakedbeansontoast487
@bakedbeansontoast487 3 жыл бұрын
I swear ‘Sex and the City’ was called ‘Sex IN the City’ I never watched it, but I saw the poster/thumbnail for it on Amazon Prime.
@alex_n215
@alex_n215 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakedbeansontoast487 It was. If you search up “Sex and the city Mandela effect,” you’ll see comparison photos online.
@stylemealiya3518
@stylemealiya3518 3 жыл бұрын
Spencer literally carries pretty little liars 🤦🏽‍♀️ she was my fave liar
@Amira-ig2mp
@Amira-ig2mp 3 жыл бұрын
Ezria was the worst couple not just the age difference but also how he completely violated the girls trust by stalking them for years claiming it was all for his book and to look for Alison which I thought was super creepy. Everyone gave him a pass cause it was for a book but what if it was more deeper than that? I remember that one scene where he has cameras in his cabin and he watches Aria sleep.... like how in any way is that normal?
@shannonblegh1919
@shannonblegh1919 3 жыл бұрын
I really think Marlene pushed HARD for Emison because that’s what the fans wanted. Nothing wrong with that, especially when that’s what a lot of fans want. However... (I haven’t watched the show in years so I may be forgetting some things) did Alison actually properly redeem herself for how she treated Emily? It was hard to really like their relationship because all I could think of was Alison’s awful treatment towards Emily. I feel like it was never resolved properly.
@makenziesaniah
@makenziesaniah 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, I understand she can forgive her but Alison really didn't even redeem herself properly & she didn't think abt how it affected a lot of people.
@RemusHolt
@RemusHolt Жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better in the failed spin off the perfectionists where Allison is one of the main characters we found out that her and Emily got a divorce because Emily can’t forgive her for all of the stuff that Allison put her through so you are right. Friendly space ninja has a good video on that show and pretty little liars
@kimfortier9300
@kimfortier9300 3 жыл бұрын
You talked about it, but what made me really mad in the finale is that Jenna notices something wrong with "Spencer", but none of her friends or even Toby notice in a freaking season... And they done Spencer and Toby so dirty, I'm still mad about it. For me, they were the only couple I cared about and deserved to end together, because they were meant to be. Anyway, I really love your videos !
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said, and awww thankyou angel! xx
@adamsmoberly
@adamsmoberly 3 жыл бұрын
The reasons why the show went downhill was the fact they didn’t follow the books after season 3-4. They didn’t take it verbatim, but the show did follow it closely. But then (since they were getting towards the end of the original books (the show made the book series longer)) they change up the storyline (despite the show set up things that would match the book) the show changed A (which is why the A “reveal” was horrible). Honestly they should have followed the books. Would have been better and the show wouldn’t be so.....bad. I think it inspired Riverdale in making bad writing. Sad really.
@unicorncutie9548
@unicorncutie9548 3 жыл бұрын
Spencer and Caleb's relationship was so.... Trash I mean it was so random and then they are like over eachother in the space of 1 episode. Also I knew the moment Ezra's lil bro picked up Aria from that party that they would kiss, because come on, these girls are basically not very commited to their relationships. I was kind of relieved that aria didn't tell ezra about the kiss because it would cause so much annoying drama since everyone knows they are going to get back together, but I expected a to mention it otherwise what was the point.
@Bollywoodlover100
@Bollywoodlover100 Жыл бұрын
when you mention how aria never talks or communicate with ezra i think those moments perfectly show why age gap relationship are unhealthy aria is a child she doesn’t know how to navigate a healthy relationship so she does what any kid does she goes to her friends i really wished the show has touched upon this issues more instead of just making them fight for drama
@janellegarden4689
@janellegarden4689 3 жыл бұрын
I think Alex saying “boo!” to Spencer was one of the top cringiest moments on the show. 🙄
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
truly horrendous
@anitamae2196
@anitamae2196 3 жыл бұрын
So was the fact that she made Wren's ashes into a necklace charm.
@dc9067
@dc9067 3 жыл бұрын
@@anitamae2196 she what- 💀💀💀
@theangelproductions
@theangelproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@anitamae2196 "a turned 'is ashes into an eeterni-iy stowne, because doymands last forevor"
@Bradcheney
@Bradcheney 3 жыл бұрын
The whole AD storyline wasn’t planned from the beginning Cece / Charlotte was meant to be the final A in season 5 but PLL was signed for two more seasons and Mary shot Spencer
@karleighrock593
@karleighrock593 3 жыл бұрын
1. Some of the relationships on the show felt forced, only to please the viewers . ( emily and Ali) 2. The writers had a nasty habit of dropping certain storylines, characters, or even timelines in flashbacks. 3. At the end of the show, the girls didn’t seem to learn anything. They still treated mona like crap ( which started the A drama in the first place) and they never told the cops about being stalked again in the other seasons .
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 3 жыл бұрын
Mona definitely should had been the fifth liar not alison 😡🤯😬
@bladesofcalamity8043
@bladesofcalamity8043 3 жыл бұрын
This is just a theory but I think Alex had a crush on aria and that's why she kidnapped ezra. I don't believe this 100% but I remember Alex saying to aria whilst aria is asleep that them two are going to be the closest so maybe she took ezra so she can have aria? Or maybe she wanted to get closer to aria so she took ezra and could be the one to comfort aria? Also I love this video!! 💕
@faye15ful
@faye15ful 3 жыл бұрын
In the books allison has an evil twin so that's why there were so many twin references.
@d.l831
@d.l831 2 жыл бұрын
This show had so much promise and I was hooked. I will forever be utterly disappointed with it. I honestly felt manipulated watching the later seasons. Like they we’re trying so hard to get me to feel for these people that did so much wrong… It just felt like a really bad relationship, and everyone around you is telling you you’re the problem for not looking past all of the evil. I don’t know it was just horrible to me and I really want to read the books. I know I’m technically a little “old” for them, but you’ve made them sound worth it haha
@BirdOnATypwriter
@BirdOnATypwriter 3 жыл бұрын
I like to call these "Right, they are teenagers"- shows, a lot of teen dramas are like this. Where the actors are in their twenties and they characters talk and act like people in their twenties and then they talk about which collages they want to go, or getting a date for prom and you are like "Right, they are teenagers".
@xwinwinwinx
@xwinwinwinx 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of the character of Samara not being fully explored and leaving after a few episodes. I think this was because the actress, Claire Holt, was cast for an extensive role as Rebekah in The Vampire Diaries and then cast in the spin off, The Originals.
@ritapoitra284
@ritapoitra284 2 жыл бұрын
You can really tell Jenna was way older out of the main people.... I noticed it in episode 1 when she smiled she got wrinkles in other spots which showed she was older by far
@HeyitsEm18
@HeyitsEm18 2 жыл бұрын
When PLL came out I was around the same age, maybe a year older than the characters. I specifically remember my friends reading the books and watching the show. I honestly wasn’t too interested in it back then but ten years later I find all the drama fascinating. Even back then Ezra and Aria made me feel so uncomfortable. A year after I graduated high school it came out that a similar situation had happened at my school. I remember my friends saying how hot Ezra was and now knowing what exactly happened it really is disturbing this was marketed to teens.
@kathyhoneyy
@kathyhoneyy 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn’t like/understand why they made Jenna a villain when she’s literately a victim of Alison. They deadass did her dirty.
@EffyLand
@EffyLand 3 жыл бұрын
Her personality and the way the girls saw her never really made sense to me
@kathyhoneyy
@kathyhoneyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@EffyLand yeah same here. They were so extra around her like dude she’s just playing her flute. And y’all literally blinded her. I really wish they would have befriended her and Mona cause they deserved more than just being the bad people.
@silvereyes242
@silvereyes242 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair she was literally forcing her step brother to have sex with her, which is pretty disgusting.
@lithiumkid
@lithiumkid 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyhoneyy "And y’all literally blinded her." exactly lol they were super scared of her wanting revenge because they did something that awful to her. if you permanently disabled someone, it'd make sense that you might be really nervous around her, esp if you know that multiple people in town hate you, want to see you suffer, & are tormenting and threatening you, because she could easily be one of them.
@Bollywoodlover100
@Bollywoodlover100 Жыл бұрын
she literally raped toby? so no she is not an innocent victim
@ClairesUniverse
@ClairesUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
AND how could anyone forget about the N.A.T. Club?? There was so much build up with that and then they never mention it again after season 2. Also, why have Alison kill Ian on the bell tower if someone is after her? I feel like they had a different person in mind to be that reveal but when they got way in over their heads in season 5, and threw in a random plot hole...
@Sarah-lv6jx
@Sarah-lv6jx 3 жыл бұрын
They couldn’t have given Spencer’s twin different hair? Like...the exact same hair cut? Common
@justine4652
@justine4652 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that the show went completely downhill in season 4. I wish they could redo 3-7
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
me too
@carla3693
@carla3693 3 жыл бұрын
Ezra was so done with A he was like I just want it be with Aria and be done with this person who is constantly trying to ruin everyone life🙃🙄
@tammiedarrell9179
@tammiedarrell9179 2 жыл бұрын
I think the aftermath of Cece upon Alison did make for a good new plot in the last few seasons... but wouldn't it have been more interesting if they chose to just make Jason -A over Cece? Already an established character on the show and the impact on Ali and Spencer both would've been even richer than Cece? His history with the NAT club, brief relationships with Aria, Melissa and Hanna's mom, all of which never actually amounted to anything and he never seemed to care... how much he hated Ali in the earlier seasons, his family relationship with the Hastings... plus it wouldn't have been yet ANOTHER Radley arc that was just too unrealistic with the amount of main characters who spent time there... there were so many creepy plots Jason was involved with, particularly in the earlier seasons, and then he seems to become so much MORE hostile and secretive and a loner, and nobody knew what he was actually doing with his time from like season 2 onwards, he could easily have been -A!
@tammiedarrell9179
@tammiedarrell9179 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of -A's money, he had the same access as Cece did... and Jason at least had 1-1 scenes with every one of the liars in the show, Cece was never that involved with them individually, it would've been much creepier. He had access to everything in Ali's house. He moved back to the house the day Ali's "body" was found, which sparked the entire plot of the show. There were so many situations for motive. -A's unexplained relationship with Jenna: Jenna and Garrett were trying to frame Jason with the "i know what you did" note. Motive. The impact of the Hastings-DiLaurentis family bullshit on Jason, motive. He was involved in NAT and literally filming children and Alison had footage and proof of the kind of person he was. Motive. It could've been so much darker and more twisted this way, without needing to go back to Radley and creating a new plot with Cece's background. They could've really made a lot out of Jason, it feels like he was right there as an option 🤷‍♀️
@miaurakimchi7349
@miaurakimchi7349 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, who the heck was Addison? I have literally NO recollection of her.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
lol honestly, I blocked it out of my mind
@kaylabounds0615
@kaylabounds0615 3 жыл бұрын
She was a teenager, one of Emily/Allison's students in the time jump, who plays the "new" manipulative Ali like character and decides to blackmail her teachers to do whatever she wants. Even Ali comments, she was never as bad as that but I happen to disagree.
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 3 жыл бұрын
She was the new mean girl and at the end her friends are at a sleepover wake up and say Addison she gone just like Allison. It was to try and get a spin off.
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicoleackerman205 she was so much like alison they made her have a name that sounded similar to alison. 😒😒 i thought that was a lame move but whatever...
@liamstatham3362
@liamstatham3362 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the new spin off? Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin. I think the writers from Riverdale are working on it so I have no hope.
@SerenaSkybourne
@SerenaSkybourne 3 жыл бұрын
ohh i dont know but ill watch it when it comes out!
@ventra_2381
@ventra_2381 3 жыл бұрын
LOL YESS. But side note I LOVED HANNA...she had to say what was needed to say lol like the rest of them wouldn’t say shit. So she’d have to be the one. I was like yess let em know lolol
@madisonkent1544
@madisonkent1544 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the way she said things too haha 😂 she was my favorite character because of her comebacks.
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