Everything Wrong With The Golden Compass In 14 Minutes Or Less

The Golden Compass was definitely a movie that happened. You didn't imagine that. It was a thing. And it went away. Probably because they spent the entire first movie spraying exposition all over the screen. Here are the sins.
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[@TheRayFrom1989]

You doing this movie and Avril Lavigne releasing a new song really makes me question what year it is.

[@brycevo]

Does Anyone else remember this movie? I thought I dreamed it.

[@shadowwolf2809]

I watched it has a kid and recall it being really good

[@MyDragonflyDust]

I remembered watching it...and then "Wait...where's the rest of the movie??"

[@elmokingkong]

I know right?! It was too long since last time I saw it...

[@bobchillin4895]

Dude I couldn’t even find anyone mention this movie

[@animationtv426]

I know of it, but actually can't Remember it

[@nickynak3]

This film is heartbreaking because they had a fantastic story, gorgeous visuals and a stellar cast, but still managed to make a crap film? I just don't understand how they managed it.

[@erinhaury5773]

It was such a fantastic trilogy of books, I don't know how they managed to so thoroughly miss every single part of what made them great. The translation to the screen was awful.

[@amr_12_]

Because the child actors were sucks

[@Minumer]

Gotta be honest, great actor though he may be Daniel Craig doesn't fit Asriel at all.

[@theclockworksystem2470]

They tried to cram so much of the first book into it that it messed up the pacing.

[@kingbrown5999]

they took inspiration from The Phantom Menace

[@stewstewnonyo9377]

Anyone here after watching his dark materials

[@sophiewhite3506]

Yep. Finding it really boring tbh

[@sycamore2656]

@@sophiewhite3506 the series?

[@busdriverguy]

I think the show is pretty damn good rn

[@stewstewnonyo9377]

Sophie White i actually really like it, but I think they need to pick up the pace and get to parts of the story we didn’t get from the movie

[@sycamore2656]

@@stewstewnonyo9377 Ty... the pace is making it feel dragged out

[@richardgautney5005]

To be fair, the golden compass book came out two years before the first Harry Potter book, so... who's ripping off who?

[@thelonecartoon]

Richard Gautney this movie off Harry Potter movies

[@csillakaszas7285]

actually, possibly no one anyone - or both of them the collective unconscious - but yeah certainly not Pullman Rowling.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Rowling is a hack-fraud.

[@adwitiyasamaddar]

Harry potter was written 6 years before it was published so.....

[@TPBurket]

You could dive back to Halloweentown - 1998 magical world hidden in the real world - the mother travels on a Magical night bus- child character does not know she has magical powers and sometimes performs magic unknowingly.

[@RoxyAKADrakesWife]

I first watched this movie dubbed in Spanish when I was abroad. My Spanish is sub par, and at first I thought the plot didn't make sense because of the language barrier. Then I later realized that the plot just doesn't make sense.

[@MsCaptainChase]

Try the book. It's amazing.

[@EmperorKagato]

Yeah you really really have to read the book

[@xryuran]

So fucking good. 2 is where the real story starts and 3 is the best one

[@Tallacus]

Daemons basically represent your core personality trait personified as an animal, for example those who are loyal get dogs, those who are clever have snakes, those who are wise get owls, and so on... When a person is young their daemons can change depending on how they are at that moment it's only after the person becomes an adult their daemons remain in one form for the rest of their lives. That's how I understand what daemons are, they are a person's soul in this world, and the animal form is just representative of the person's personality.

[@GoatPopsicle]

Now that would have nice to have been exposited on, like damn near everything else in this movie.

[@206beastman]

Tallacus can my demon be a stegasours cause I'm spiky? stfu

[@kiaz1st]

Although daemons don’t rely on vague stereotypes like snakes being clever and owls being wise (neither of those real animals are like that) and are more determined on their real counterparts behaviour. If you really had a clever person their demon would be a crow or a parrot. Because those animals are actually intelligent, snakes not so much.

[@sagebauland4276]

Well said

[@coltonallgire1135]

No, those who are wise get Rick and Morty stuffed plushies

[@RiverGriffith2016]

I think when you have a giant world building story like this, where you need this much exposition, it’s much better suited to a tv series

[@kal6957]

River Griffith Ummmm... I’ve got some good news

[@jacobmckinney4368]

If only HBO and BBC could collaborate on such a project 🤔

[@vizthex]

yup

[@maxmusic5380]

River Griffith It’s being made between New Line Cinema, HBO and BBC: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials_(TV_series)?wprov=sfti1 it will all stories from the His Dark Materials book series

[@RastaPilot737]

I just hope that they don't end up like the Song of Ice and Fire at the final season.

[@cowardlyheroine]

Now there is finally a tv series that will do this trilogy JUSTICE. It's on BBC and HBO!

[@Kate-es9of]

Just watched the first episode. It was amazing.

[@inspiredby624]

Thanks for the info :) can't wait to watch it!

[@lilypond5158]

I got chills watching it

[@Asimov16]

Except the series has the biggest sin. 20 people in a room and only one daemon LOL

[@cait812]

But BBC made it.

[@azazazz099]

tbh i remember when i was super young, and my grandma bought this movie, and i couldnt stop watching it. although i didnt understand it, i thought the animals were cute and it was amazing in general for me. i watched this one netflix like 5 minutes ago, and its cool how everything makes sense now. idk why but this movie has a special place in my heart.

[@memyselfandi7782]

Same I liked this movie, hearing the books and series adaptation is better makes me happy and interested.

[@1337ijs]

Honestly, the greatest worst thing about this movie is how it intentionally cut the book's ending so it could end on a happy note. Cause the books goes ball-to-the-wall crazy Empire Strikes Back with its ending. In the book, like, a chapter after where the movie ends, Azriel kills/daemon cuts Lyra's friend to tear open an inter-dimensional portal, Coulter is there for some reason (it's been literally about a decade since I last read the book; details escape me), and while Lyra is freaking out disbelieving that her friend is dead, cradling his corpse, they're making out like a porno is about to start. Then Azriel goes through the portal with the intent of destroying the source of Dust (don't remember why), and Lyra resolves roughly "Fuck all these adults, what the hell do they know about anything?!" and follows him.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Speaking of pornos, I do think there was some under-aged sex to be had in this book franchise, can you confirm?

[@RonnocFroop]

Nobody can confirm. There's a scene where two under-aged character MAY have had sex in the third book, but the author has said that "he didn't watch and neither should you".

[@Syrange13]

@@RonnocFroop Really? I remember them making out, but no implied boning.

[@1337ijs]

I mean... kinda sorta, but also not really. Hardcore makeouts are at the least definitely had by Lyra and the other protagonist (whose name I can't remember or be arsed to look up) in the last book, and the whole Eve Born Again thing Lyra eventually has going on over the course of the series certainly implies sex to me in that scene with my older perspective, but nothing is ever explicitly stated in the book itself.

[@RonnocFroop]

There was a scene near the end of the last book where they disappear off-screen (page?) for a bit, and something happens between them that fixes Dust, and some people think they had sex, but Phillip Pullman has refused to confirm or deny. I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter, because sex is fine, but it's not the be-all-end-all of things.

[@izzycartwright3195]

and now they’ve made “his dark materials” and its beautiful

[@lastswordfighter]

No it isn’t.

[@kettlebot3610]

@@lastswordfighter yes it is. opinions are lovely things

[@BestNickNameEver]

@@kettlebot3610 in comparison with the movie: The movie has better cgi and much better visuals, but when it comes tot he story the show delivered more how ever the acting and the cast of the tv show is horrible compared to the movie.

[@Diepvries11]

@@BestNickNameEver You should not be allowed to have an opinion about films/shows, because of the utter shite that you are spouting.

[@gunsandkithes6900]

Hahahaha, Dream on dude(babe), The Show is just wayyy toooo Horrible and i am Lucifer fan. And since the 1st season is over the emptiness if 8 hour i spent in it is the size of a freaking Zeppelin

[@whitneylackenbauer9782]

Your daemon only takes a shape after you become an adult, and your daemon shape can be based on your position and job

[@Arenuphis]

iirc it's mostly indirectly, through your common actions, and environment, or something a fisherman fishes a lot, is attuned to the water and might be cursed to find himself with a fish daemon

[@jkim6805]

What if someone changes position or job? What if I want to become a soldier rather than a chef? Will my rat turn into a wolf?

[@Arenuphis]

nope and you'll probably be endlessly teased by your coworkers for having an out of place daemon didn't realize this till now, but this world doesn't take kindly too kindly to midlife crises

[@FranciscoTChavez]

So, they did have to read the book in order to know that, sounds like something worthy of a few more sins to me.

[@kathleencurran9399]

Wow the entirety of these replies is just nerds vs nerds

[@jasmined7113]

I know The Books Dont Matter, the daemon questions are pretty easily resolved in the books and they’re actually really cool. So a daemons form related to a persons innermost self. If you’re homely and friendly, you might have a dog. If you’re wild and independent, you might be a weasel (like Lyras daemon in the books). Daemons can talk, but only the person they’re connected to can understand them, to other people they sound like animal noises. When two people have sex, daemons act out something equally intimate but non-sexual, like play-fighting, cuddling, or grooming each other. In the books, the universe has a folktale of a fisherman whose daemon becomes a dolphin, and he has to spend the rest of his life on a boat. When you touch someone else’s daemon, it’s not that they feel the pain on the physical equivalent of their own bodies, but rather an overwhelming sense of violation and discomfort in their very soul. I love these books so yeah haha

[@Gladissims]

That's not true. Deamons can talk to other people. It doesn't happen too often, but they definitely do it on several occasions in the books...

[@bobbi1824]

Also Lara’s daemon settles as a pine marten

[@parentalcryptid]

Also, there are animals that aren't Daemons, again explained in the books. In Northern Lights (The Golden Compass), Iorek kills and eats a seal, rubbing the fat on his armour, and in The Secret Commonwealth, it says this, in regards to Pantalaimon "No-one who saw him would think for a moment he was a pine marten, he looked like a pine marten in every respect, but he was a Daemon. It was very hard to say where the difference lay, but any human being in Lyra's world would have known it at once, as surely as the smell of coffee, or the colour red." Daemons can talk to eachother, and to other humans. Humans and Daemons feel eachother's pain (see when Mrs Coulter's monkey attacked Pan), though a person touching someone else's Daemon is more along the lines of a violation, This again, is explained in the books (La Belle Sauvage), where it's described as an innate instinct from birth. Honestly, it's a shame that the movie wasn't able to delve further into the mythology of Daemons. Also, to answer the question at 6:44, the symbol meanings are more metaphorical (for example, the apple represents knowledge and sin), so... from looking at the symbol meanings available online, I'd say you'd need the Wild man (represents lust), The Apple (Sin, as in the sin of Wrath from the seven deadly sins), and the Walled Garden for nature.

[@fin_dunks8656]

That's not true if your Daemon fells pain so do you

[@fin_dunks8656]

Also there is a law which violates the touching of other people's daemons

[@maskedmutant6055]

"What do you know about dust?" Why don't you ask Thanos that question?

[@jimb.7523]

Yeah, I'd ask Peter but he isn't feeling very well right now....

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

+Monika , can I ask you a question? Do you work with the computer from DHMIS?

[@Gemnist98]

Why not you? You actually DID crumble away.

[@sidneyrosey]

I'm screaming

[@grevohsdraws1925]

Monika this needs more likes

[@noneofyoubusiness4895]

Fairly sure Pullman's trilogy came out BEFORE Rowling's, so those Harry Potter allusions are the wrong way round.

[@HP-ej3bo]

But the film came out after hp. And instead of adapting the book, let's just rip off everything else that was popular and mold it into a shape kinda resembling the golden compass

[@noneofyoubusiness4895]

if you're going to take that stance, then "Return of the King" ripped off "Chamber of Secrets" because it had a big spider in it ...

[@Soaches]

@@noneofyoubusiness4895 The alludings made in this movie are far closer to Harry Potter in terms of scenery and general feel than just the fact that they both had two of the same fantasy creatures in it. Like others have stated in the comments here; the books in this series don't resemble Harry Potter, but the movie does. Because it was a popular genre at the time they probably just went with the cinematic style that they knew worked. It doesn't mean any of the author's ripped each other off.

[@88happiness]

True. The Golden Compass was published in 1995 and HP and the Philosopher's Stone was 1997. I can't remember if the beatles were in the books though.

[@BearByTree]

I only remember the bad ass polar bear fight from this movie.

[@sophonax661]

bad ass but bloodless

[@WhatInTheFreshFuck]

Same

[@Demaad]

Golden Compass is due for a reboot

[@doomy_mcdoomerson]

Dasan It's getting a TV series on the BBC. Pretty sure that's why he did this movie today.

[@samuellawrencesbookclub8250]

Well the BBC is going to do a TV show adaptation of the books it's based on

[@Demaad]

When does the show come out? Anyone casted?

[@samuellawrencesbookclub8250]

It's meant to come out at some point in 2019 - nothing more specific yet. The cast currently features; Dafne Keen as Lyra James McAvoy as Lord Asriel Clarke Peters as the Master of Jordan Ruth Wilson as Mrs. Coulter Father MacPhail played by Will Keen Lord Boreal played by Ariyon Bakare Adele Starminster played by Georgina Campbell Anne-Marie Duff, James Cosmo, Lucian Msamati, Mat Fraser, Geoff Bell and Simon Manyonda as - of yet - unidentified Gyptians Lin-Manuel Miranda as Lee Scoresby Lewin Lloyd as Roger Parslow Daniel Frogson as Tony Costa Tyler Howitt as Billy Costa Archie Barnes as Pantalaimon

[@Aloyus_Knight]

Actually it needs tow more films so the whole thing can make sense, what's the point of just having one film like this when some sequels would help drive the story forward.

[@rafaelpando7052]

The sad thing is that i've played the videogame, and it has footage of scenes that aren't in the movie, apparently they were gonna show the events of the last few chapters of the book IN the movie but the filmmakers changed their mind because they didn't want to piss off religious groups. So the movie was literaly left without a proper ending.

[@TheStormbringer8751]

What happened?

[@pattmcruss4604]

Rafael Pando American religious groups, since it was pretty much made with the sole intent of pissing of us Catholics

[@rafaelpando7052]

Arland Jenkins I'd recommend looking it up if you really want to know. It's a bad idea to spoil Anything in a youtube comment.

[@matthewgiese7811]

The girls dad murders his daughters best friend in front of her so he can travel to the city of "Cittagazze" in another dimension. Her best friend since childhood was with her since birth and was with her the whole time in the movie. Her dad almost killed her instead because he needed to take someone's life to travel across dimensions... he was going to but then when he saw her friend was with her decided to murder him instead to save himself the guilt of getting his hands messy killing his daughter. He even mentions in the book he was a bit "put out" that he might have to kill his daughter to fullfill his goals and is annoyed by the turn of events... until he finds she isn't alone.

[@JackJames-exe]

Matthew Giese Wow...what an ending, jeeze..(thanks though mate)

[@devilnyx992]

I’ve been following CinemaSins for over half a year now and I’ve only just noticed he would make a great Kermit voice actor

[@justafaniv1097]

The funny thing is, the movie did alright internationally, but the studio had already sold the rights to overseas profits. Whomever the moron is who thought that a movie based on a book with heavy anti-religious undertones would do better in the US (typically more religious than most overseas markets) than overseas where the book is still popular deserves to be unemployed.

[@themightyblueshell4239]

I wouldn't know anyone this dumb

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

It was based on a book that is antireligous.The books were written by a atheist.to promote atheisim among children.To be the opposite of the Narnia books.

[@sirzorba]

Is it weird that I enjoyed both series of books equally? Fuck this movie though.

[@matthewcary615]

Yeah, but it wasn't the anti-religious undertones that did this movie in, it was the movie itself.

[@icywolf9923]

I loved the books. I got yelled at in school for reading them.

[@nathangamble125]

Reading the book doesn't make the movie seem better, it just makes it seem worse. The story is really badly explained, and not even well acted, despite all the big names. A few characters got merged together in ways that don't make sense for the story, and they removed some important character deaths: Tony Makarios got merged with Billy Costa, and he doesn't die, which introduced a couple of sins and removes the important point that intercision is nearly always fatal. The Dark Materials trilogy is a very weird and convoluted story though. They start travelling between parallel universes, there's a load of stuff going on with angels and demons, they have a big war, some people die, everyone goes to the afterlife to get the dead people back, morally ambiguous monsters turn out not to be so bad, god dies, etc. Honestly I wonder if it really works as a film at all. By the way, "gobblers separating demons from kids" isn't a subplot, it's actually the main plot of the story. It's the thing that drives the rest of the series. For some reason the film ends before the end of the book.

[@Arenuphis]

well tbh the main plot is "lyra goes wherever the plot tells her, aka acting out destiny, like 5 wars going on in the backround, also she ends up in them sometimes" with lots of interesting stuff strewn on and around it to make it seem less noticeable it's rather "gobblers are kidnapping" that is central to that part of the movie there weren't any demons tho, right? just fallen angels also who do you mean with morally ambiguous monsters? mrs. coulter&lord asrial? important note, I loved the books, but yes, it's really weird and convoluted sometimes

[@audrivalentin4451]

THE MOVIE REALLY TOOK OUT THE ENDING IT WAS APPALLING

[@FranciscoTChavez]

My rule of thumb is, if the book is based on the movie, read the book first, if the movie is based on the book, watch the movie first. In other words read (or watch) the derivative work first. This doesn't always hold true, but over the years it has done better than 50-50. I first started coming up with this rule of thumb when I watched the Born Identity. Everyone was going on and on about how great the movie was, and all I could think about was how disappointing it was when compared to the book. On the other hand, I think reading the movie based books first, made the first Transformers movie better because it added to the story.

[@berengustav7714]

"He goes by any names:Creator,El,Adonai,Yahweh,but he is nothing more than another angel."

[@jack_of_alltrades7091]

*_There are many universes_* 14 000 605 in fact, and I've only seen one where cinema sins does infinity war.....

[@literallyglados]

it would just be 7 hours of crying

[@daisyduggan971]

Probably cause its a freaking great book

[@TheCumberCoIlective]

That number was the possible outcomes of their battle with Thanos not how many universes there are

[@aidankohl6412]

Honestly we getting sins on a movie like 10 years old but where’s thanos car?

[@Crazed-Sanity]

@@TheCumberCoIlective Oh hush. Just enjoy the joke.

[@jasv49]

Jeremy simultaneously wants MORE and LESS things explained to him

[@semanticsamuel936]

It's more about how you explain it. Exposition is usually boring (as is stealth exposition, like newspaper articles and lectures). While some is usually necessary, here it's just tedious - there's so much of it and it adds up to nothing. Film is about the visuals - can you show me something happening rather than having a character lecture me?

[@randombrokeperson]

I always had a soft spot for this film. The books were so fantastic and the casting and art direction/special effects were brilliant, but the script didn't do the book justice. If it had, I can't even imagine how amazing the rest of the books would have been while being brought to life! But I kind of understand why the film was so lacking though. All three or four books are extremely long and detailed. About 50% of the second book alone would have to be cut for an adaptation. They would have been the children's films the world needs.

[@jaschabull2365]

Yeah, basically this kind of world is vast to the point that it would need a production of a Lord of the Rings calibre to do it to justice in the movies, which is the kind of thing you need miraculously passionate filmmakers for. If the stars had somehow aligned for that, it would be quite the presentation.

[@lusciousloxx6112]

BBC is making a lengthy TV series of His Dark Materials soon. It's definitely worth a look.

[@caseybriggs4278]

the cast Lyra way too young, seeing as the Subtle Knife literally opens with her naked on the beach.

[@strawblina]

The heck are you on about? Lyra is first seen attacking Will from the random house he chose to enter in Cittagazze. She's also literally 12.

[@AliMeetsWorld]

RIGHTTTTTTTTTT

[@vnikyt]

Where can I get a copy of the Cinemasins Holy Text? Does it have pictures?? IS THERE A PICTURE OF THE FAITH RHINOS???

[@GoatPopsicle]

Damn, I really wish he would write one. Then we could quote scripture, when people complain a movie they like, was unfairly sinned.

[@byzantine2516]

I want one and would buy it.... WITH ACTUAL MONEY!

[@TheKensta88]

As opposed to what? Monopoly money?

[@byzantine2516]

Good question, didn't really think about that sentence...... go ahead and sin it

[@Succubus2Angel]

Bitcoin money ^o^

[@witnessme4352]

I know the books aren't supposed to matter here but there's something that I really need to get off my chest: *THE ALETHIOMETER IS NOT A GOLDEN COMPASS!!!* It's golden and kinda looks like a navigational compass but in no way is it a compass and is never called a compass. An alethiometer is, simply put, a truth telling device. The name "The Golden Compass" is a reference to John Milton's poem Paradise Lost and refers to the kind of compass that helps you draw circles, not the kind that tells direction and vaguely looks like an alethiometer. The fact that the movie doesn't realize this shows that it doesn't get the book and is the first sign that it got it wrong.

[@astralangeldragon]

Witness Me YES YES YES! IT TELLS TRUTH IM SYMBOLS, And it’s very difficult to understand

[@faithfulfairy1]

It’s a bad sign when they decided to change the name to suit American audiences.

[@semtheprogamingmaster8610]

do i remember correctly that this device was COMPLETLY useless for the whole 3 books but only usefull in ONE (more or less deciding) situation?

[@RonnocFroop]

Semthepro Gamingmaster You don't remember correctly. It was useful constantly up until Lyra decided not to ask anything about Will, at which point it still was used pretty often when they were unsure of stuff.

[@OGAMIS]

The funny thing is, that isn't even the Book's proper title, it's the American version because the American publishers didn't like The Norther Lights.

[@cho4d]

I like how literally all his questions about daemons are answered in the books :)

[@JontyLevine]

They never did explain why you can't have an elephant daemon. **_cries_**

[@sphong0610]

@@JontyLevine You can if you have an elephant personality(soul). The daemons reflect who you are; character, desires, morals, values etc. Gay people have same gender daemons. Children's daemons change forms because their personalities haven't been fully formed yet. Thus if your daemon turns out to be a fish, there's probably a good reason for it.

[@Dimstarfan]

Cowboy Dupbap It was never confirmed why same-gender daemons occur, but good theory.

[@JontyLevine]

If that were the case, you'd see as many different types of daemons as there are people. And since children's daemons are shown to have some control over what they turn into, you'd think they'd explore every possible form available to them, including the really big ones. But in the HDM world (as presented to us) you don’t see anything bigger than a snow leopard. Why? Having an elephant at your command would be too useful not to exploit in any situation that required it. A few dozen kids with elephant daemons, for instance, would would make light work of the Tartar guards at Bolvangar.

[@Gladissims]

@@JontyLevine Except for there being this huge Taboo of not touching other people's deamons. It's their literal soul, and you don't just throw your soul at someone. It feels inherently wrong, almost like being violated. And because of this unspoken taboo, the children would never think of using their deamons to attack anyone. It also never seems to me like the children actually choose what their deamons turn into, so I don't think they could force it.

[@nnekaotika5635]

Where's the milk?! Where's the freaking milk? Lol classic!

[@joshuaevans6873]

Hahaha and sinfrista cinematigga, clan-king of go fuck yourself 😂😂 gotta love jeremy

[@AngryWindmill]

The books are actually really well done, I'm so disappointed they stopped at the first one with the movies

[@amandasmith593]

I'm not. They butchered the book because they were scared of touching the main plot of the series: A war against god. If they'd made more movies, those movies would have made progressively less sense as they tried to avoid the main plot.

[@mannersmakythman]

please do sharkboy & lavagirl in 3D

[@GDSK09]

Otacon464 jeremy hasnt. but someone else has. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5qZiKycfJWWi5I

[@mannersmakythman]

nope, he didn't, cause I've been asking them to do it for over 5 years now!

[@ashtraysonsundays4274]

Have the text also be in that old school stereoscopic Red/Cyan 3D

[@idab9958]

This movie has got to be the biggest waste of a brilliant source material in cinema history. The book is legit one of the best I've ever read and this movie just completely butchered it.

[@DarkCrowI]

The casting job they did was fantastic though

[@angelwithashotgun96]

@@DarkCrowI no? Lee was too old and wisdom-speeking, the girl they cast for Lyra just didn't do it - she was cute and innocent, there was zero fire in her - and Nicole Kidman came across as a coldhearted bitch in that movie rather than a morally questionable character that you could somehow like anyway because she's got something special. I'll take the show casting a hundred times over the movie casting.

[@bf7071]

@@angelwithashotgun96 zegy

[@bluelegocrane7754]

Acctually...I think the movie is very good.

[@Onlyitsmereid]

The show is the best tho

[@mindyschocolate]

I spent forever waiting for the sequel, since there were so many loose ends. I was so disappointed when after a couple of years I realized this movie will only ever be a giant cliffhanger.

[@dualogical]

There's three books

[@anacoronado6410]

IKR!? Good news is that BBC is working on the series of His Dark Materials ☺

[@jeiskael]

Not only are the books available to tie things up, but Pullman has started a prequel trilogy that explains a great deal of Lyra's wild behavior. This could have been an amazing series, but they dumbed it down and changed several details that killed any hope of continuing the series with the same actors... just not cool =/

[@anacoronado6410]

@@jeiskael I really liked Dakota as Lyra, not to mention Ian McKellen as Iorek. The cast was amazing :( I hope the series can do better 👏☺

[@jeiskael]

agreed, she did make an amazing Lyra... I really, really wanted this to continue, but I knew it wasn't going to happen as soon I saw it on opening weekend. I'm also hoping the series works... mostly because I want to see how they show the subtle knife and the 'motorcycle gang' in the amber spyglass... please, please, please let them be true to the books.

[@teddymoon]

Please allow me a moment to nerd out: The golden snitches in HP (see Harry Potter and the Philosophers' Stone 1997) came out well after the Golden Compass (see His Dark Materials 1995). Same goes for a lot of the other plot devices, characters and objects that you saw similarities to in the other (later) works of fiction and animation that you'd mentioned. So if anything, the writers of ATLA, HP, Eragon and so on may have been.....unintentionally inspired by Philip Pullman's story. Things like this are why stories are so much fun to read. 😊😊😊

[@spartansquid5931]

Please allow me to double nerd out. Star Wars is better

[@sophiagyger6932]

I think the "sin" is more about the film copying a basic template for prop design - in the book the spyfly looks nothing like a Snitch.

[@nathangamble125]

+Sophia Gyger Yeah, in the film they went for a really "steampunk" style, for some reason.

[@waleuska]

star wars is awful.

[@Shadowpunk2077]

Waleuska: So is every conceivable thing in the world. Everything is awful.

[@Evelyn_Okay]

This movie tried so hard to Harry Potter, it Eragoned itself

[@seewhaticcurious1]

DAMN

[@yourlocallesbiandisaster3385]

That was the worst movie ever!!!

[@rand0m508]

well said

[@anthonywarwood6817]

Seriously?? This book was written BEFORE Harry Potter

[@alfa01spotivo]

Anthony Warwood ...he meant the film

[@misc.3973]

LOL, I love how every one of the very legitimate questions about daemons are totally covered at great length in the books, but this was exactly why this movie wasn't good enough for the source material. It would've had to have been a Game of Thrones type mini series to have any chance of properly explaining itself.

[@Drengade]

they can lay on the catholic church metaphor thicker, in the book's sequels they the fortress of god is literally assaulted and god's right hand angel betrays him, Lyra is the reincarnation of Eve for gods sake. The entire series is based around a message on religion.

[@Drengade]

which is why you will never see an accurate adaptation of this series

[@Drengade]

@KyodaiKen1979 In the Narnia series Aslan is LITERALLY Jesus, as said in the Last Battle, where revelations ACTUALLY HAPPENS, and the lion the witch and the wardrobe LITERALLY HAS THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

[@RoninCatholic]

Narnia's message about religion is "Christianity is good" while this book's was the exact opposite. Therefore, a more accurate representation of the Narnia books is possible with a few passionate Christian filmmakers but an accurate representation of this book series is unlikely because at some level of production, executives will say "There's no way we can market this in a 75% Christian nation" and meddle with it. The executives don't care about the message, generally, but _do_ care about alienating too big a sector of the audience. Shame though; this story doesn't exactly need any help to make itself come across poorly thought out and tactless.

[@Drengade]

@@RoninCatholic ... By any chance, are you Christian? Not that it really matters to me. You're entitled to your own opinion on the series, but I'm always gonna hold a soft spot for it, I had it read to me when I was 5 or 6, loved the thing. But just note it has hints from other religions as well, the message is just mostly done with Christianity.

[@Redflametrow]

I mean the author's goal was to make the Catholic Church look bad and to make more atheists. So when you're too straightforward with your goals, it's hard for many to listen to if they disagree with the core goal. Just saying that it's barely a metaphor as it's more a straightforward goal. It's not like it's vampirism with virginity.

[@luckydagger1310]

When a child is born, does the pregnant mom also have to push out a Daemon? Or are the male Daemons also giving birth?

[@Nicamon]

How hard is it to understand the concept daemons=people's souls?Does your mother push your SOUL out when you are born???Geez,I don't know why you are even asking yourself this question but,just as the daemons turn into Dust the moment their human dies,I suppose they are CREATED by Dust as soon as the human is born!Also..what the hell do you mean with"are the male daemons also giving birth"???ò___O

[@jasfoy773]

Deamons are the opposite sex to their person, it doesn't matter much except for aesthetics and the voice (As far as I've read, only read the first book and a bit of the second).

[@mickepersson7733]

@@Nicamon no cuse the soul isnt a real object just something people made up but in this world deamons are a real fucking thing

[@RoninCatholic]

Souls are real, they just aren't physical.

[@Nicamon]

I've never said in this world daemons aren't real...

[@Taramoor]

God damn this movie was cast so perfectly and written and directed so terribly.

[@erinhaury5773]

It was such a beautiful failure. Everything was right, except for the important shit. =p

[@EthanB-01]

"When someone is showing someone else how their... golden compass points" I found this funnier than I probably should have

[@porkchop6045]

It’s a sin that you didn’t redo all of your earlier videos that are like 5 minutes...your skills have improved massively! There’s way more sims now!

[@porkchop6045]

Sins*

[@nomadofpeaceddw1190]

@@porkchop6045 you can edit comments

[@helton3425]

What if they don't have the ability to do so because of the device they're using?

[@MrJreed1000]

pork chop agreed

[@bleankdallas2924]

Somehow, I like the subediting. Feels more honest I guess

[@jessicawurm23]

"Invisible! Intangible! Inaccessible!" Incomprehensible! Inconsequential! Inedible! .....what, no Vizzini yelling "Inconceivable!" ? Shame, CinemaSins. Shame.

[@arch_zj]

Its funny because this film was so awful at explaining anything, whereas the book made sense (for the most part)

[@Ominous_Odyssey]

That’s how things tend to work between books and movies.

[@soapyfrog8928]

true

[@stevengibson2251]

agreed

[@Arenuphis]

sadly this is one of the things that tend to kill book adaptions especially this one, since there was such an abundance of terminology and alt universe stuff

[@katieeve2083]

Didn't make the book interesting tho

[@quillmaurer6563]

The biggest sin of this movie, in my opinion, is that they tried to water down the anti-religion theme of the book, removing a lot of very important aspects of the story and making a lot of the background and motivations vague, resulting in a lousy movie, yet it was still had enough anti-religion, as well as just it's existence from it's source material, that the religious establishment hated it and campaigned against it. Result was that it didn't make either the religious or the secular (especially those who have read the book) audiences happy. Thus it bombed at the box office, and the intended sequels were never made - had they made the sequels it probably would have all fit together into a better context, resolving the biggest complaint this guy had that the story wasn't resolved - it needed the sequels for any of it to make any sense. Had they not tried to appease the religious people, which would be impossible given the source material, the movie would have turned out decent. If you can't make everyone happy, at least make some people - the people who would ever want this movie period - happy. Also, really wish they'd kept the original ending, the last two chapters of the book rather than this vague "off into the sunset" ending, but I guess they just would have added that to the next movie had it been made.

[@alexatkin]

They even shot it, it's in the game.

[@quillmaurer6563]

They shot parts of it. I've seen on KZbin splices together of various available footage and pre-production audio and storyboards to partially re-create the unfinished endings. Would have been really beautiful and spectacular had they finished it, probably would have been the best part of the movie.

[@nolam9928]

EXACTLY👏👏

[@quillmaurer6563]

I just realized how to sum it all up: The biggest sin of this movie was it's futile attempt to not "sin."

[@ronaldduttweiler9529]

The main problem was not realizing that they actually needed to explain things in this movie, not just wait for all the explanations to happen later. Nobody knew what was happening, and they were so sure they would get a sequel, they didn't bother trying to make this movie good on its own

[@RaimarLunardi]

Is is just me or he seems angrier with this movie picking things that he let go on others?

[@recipeacefoodialogue4915]

Gold and Compass best movie you !

[@scrapbookee8647]

Jeremy reads the sins that are written by whoever wrote the sins. All the writers rotate, so he just reads the sins and probably puts what inflections he gets from notes

[@agentepolaris4914]

Wait, so he doesn't really watches he movie and points out it's sins? Now I've lost some respect for thi chanel...

[@alexanderthegreat5649]

@@agentepolaris4914 No he does watch them they have more writers now, but at 1st it was just him and Chris.

[@thefracturedshow2747]

This universe apparently

[@ThePurpleBlackDragon]

If they wouldn´t just stuff all the exposition into one movie just so they don´t have to talk about any of that stuff again in potential sequels than this would have been such a good movie.

[@CMichaelEH]

exactly - why not follow the tactic of the book and leave some of it to the imagination???

[@anonymousanonymously5439]

Messi?

[@milkshake285]

AaronTheBlackDragon movies are stuck in the exposition overload they don’t know how to show but so many had potential

[@pandahuezo-menjivar9154]

I watched this movie with my dad and he was like “This is about the Catholic church” and I was like, “Yeah, right, Dad” and then I looked it up and yeah, it is. The book was more obvious about its critiques of the Catholic church “systemically doing horrible things to children” hint hint. The movie pretty much got everyone angry. It got the Catholics mad because of the criticism being too much, and it got the fans mad because of the criticism being too little.

[@Chaos89P]

As a practicing Catholic, I have to say "Wow, this movie can't please anyone in this country!"

[@pandahuezo-menjivar9154]

Chaos89P You’ve got that right 😂

[@charmandyorton006]

Catholicism is not a bad thing to study at all. In fact, it makes plenty of aspiring devotees happy AND it refrains from terrorism as a device to enforce itself on non-believers. With this in mind, it's just a shame that there are so many Judge Claude Frollos out there leading such studies today.

[@Syrange13]

Well, it got the fans mad mainly because of fucking up pretty much everything good about the book.

[@Chaos89P]

"Judge Claude Frollos"? What exactly do you mean? That there are egotistical douchebags leading religious studies? I'm actually genuinely curious.

[@vagga2u14]

I absolutely adored this book as a kid, saw the movie on TV once and told my parents to come to watch it because it would be great. Gets to the end and was like 'wtf we're only halfway through!'

[@RYMAN1321]

Yeah this is why you don’t end a film or season on a cliffhanger because nothing is guaranteed after

[@KitsuneNeko]

"Only one that can read it." Is a fault the movie did. She is not the only one who can read it. She just so happened to have one and figured it out. Turns out when you're young you can figure things out faster then those who are older. If the Church didn't destroy them all and banned the research probably MANY people would be able to read it... and she could teach others how to do so. BTW it's easier to reach before puberty apparently as it gets harder to make it work later on. 1:33 about the pain stuff. Yes and basically yes. Daemons are basically their souls outside their bodies. If the second movie was made, like it was originally planned, this would have been understood. Or if they explained it better in the first movie I guess. Also no two toilets. Your soul doesn't need to eat or use the bathroom... but they could if they wanted to. But they don't need to as the daemon's body isn't a true body. And as for them doing the nasty... the two daemons are probably "petting" each other unless they don't want to connect on a "spiritual" level then probably not. /shrugs 2:42 Yes. Real animals can exist. Apparently you can look at a daemon who is separated from its human and see a weird sentience about it. But it's confusing since there is an invisible tie between the two that can cause real pain when they venture too far apart. Which is why witch's daemons are so special and weird to meet. If you see a real animal you instantly go... well that's just an animal. But if you see a daemon you take a double glance at it and wonder where the human is. 3:52 "Little thing" is actually a hint for later. She's basically black mailing/guilt tripping the headmaster into letting her spend time with the girl. 3:58 It's soul touching. While it's taboo for a person to touch another person's daemon there is no problem if a person touches another person and a daemon touches another daemon. It is also a way to coerce certain situations. If Lyra was "okay" with the woman and that was it she probably wouldn't feel like she had a connection. So she would fully trust her. But if their daemons are getting along it'll force her to feel more at ease... even if her daemon is uncomfortable with the action. 4:53 Yes. The typical house servant's daemon is a dog. Just a common mixed breed dog actually. Dogs, cats, and rats are THE most common "poor folks" daemon in their world. Lyra takes notice of this but doesn't question it. That doesn't mean if your daemon settles as a dog you HAVE to be a house servant. Instead it just means you typically are a follower type person. You are most comfortable taking orders from someone, can be very loyal, and work well with others or by yourself. 5:10 The headmaster doesn't know how to work it. If I remember right he had a dream to give it to her. 7:52 Yes. Aaaand yes. Ioric is literally stuck in that village because they stole his soul. He has to get it back before he can leave. 11:30 They're trying to separate kids from their souls. In doing so they think it will rid them of the connection of dust.... which is the round about saying of "original sin". That way their daemons don't settle on a form ( puberty ) and they are free to be whatever and all that nonsense. What actually happens is you get soulless zombies. Sure they're alive but they have no personality and are easy to control. 12:34 Because letting him go they hoped he would die out there. But really it's also because they don't want to admit Dust is really a thing. If they can get people to be quiet about the truth about something... that Dust is needed... sin is needed... then how will they control the masses? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Spoilers: She finds her dad and he kills her best friend as a sacrifice to get to the other side because he didn't want to kill his child... which is what he thought he had to do. Lyra now confused why her dad did that.. and very angry about it... follows him to the other side. Our world... well actually a in between world AND our world. There she meets a boy who murdered a guy so his mother would be safe. Nazi church blah blah blah story stuff... angels... a subtle knife... dimension traveling! Lyra grows up... puberty! World saved! Sorta....

[@Anser_Crystallan]

No, her reading ability is magic. She loses the power at the end of the last book because the mission she needed it for was complete

[@crystalllite]

Kaitren No, her ability to read the alethiometer isn't really "magic". It's kind of an innate ability she has at first, I think she's a bit special in that regard but it's true that she's not the only one who can read it. Throughout the series, she loses her ability to read the alethiometer as she matures and goes through puberty and grows out of childhood- she doesn't lose the power at the end because of some mission being complete, she loses it gradually as she grows up and it gets harder and harder for her to read it. Actually learning how to read it after she lost her ability is supposedly very difficult, it requires a lot of studying of the symbols and their different levels of meanings (which was something she was just able to get intuitively as a child, but as an adult she has to actually learn and memorize them) so that's also a reason not many people can read the alethiometer.

[@purritocat]

this really helped me understand it and even made me interested

[@alana9205]

@@purritocat the books are great, and explain things a lot better. It's a dark story though and kind of spirals into something I didn't understand when I was younger

[@neilgriffiths6427]

Yes, kids figure things out faster than adults - which is why Einstein came up with general relativity when he was 7, and I let my 11 year old sort out my mortgage...🙄🙄🙄

[@user-ug1yq1ls5w]

I think I understand daemons. When a child, your daemon is able to shape shift into different types of animals. When an adult, the daemon will remain as an animal. So I guess that elephant daemons won’t be a problem because by the time someone had reached adulthood the daemon would be more suitable. Also I think what species a daemon is does depend on personality and profession. But they have time to transform into what will represent the humans lifestyle because they are able to change species.

[@crystalllite]

From what I remember from the book, daemons settle into a final form when a person supposedly reaches maturity. (spoilers ahead!!) In the third book (I think), Lyra and Will touch each other's daemons (which is usually taboo in society) and their daemons settle then, and the book says something about how your daemon settles when touched for the first time by a lover? Because it signifies the shift away from childhood and the loss of innocence or something like that. (I could have remembered wrong though, it's been a while.)

[@crystalllite]

They don't really "transform" to represent the human's lifestyle, the book calls it "settling" because they don't really "choose" what they become, they just kind of end up in a form that feels right and once that happens they can't change anymore, nor do they want to. So yes, a daemon will match the person's lifestyle and personality (for example, all witches' daemons are birds, because flying is important to a witch) but they don't really consciously "choose" a form to settle into.

[@user-ug1yq1ls5w]

salt crystal Yeah that sounds like a better explanation. I read it in English two years ago but we only got halfway through the series so I have some knowledge on it but not all.

[@anacoronado6410]

Somewhere I read the daemons settle into the shape they most feel comfortable with (and of course that fits the personality of the human) so I think that's something in consideration. Settling into an elephant wouldn't be so convenient, nor comfortable.

[@forestgrump4723]

I disagree, for someone who likes wide open spaces an elephant could be a very comfortable form for their Daemon. They would just have a hard time traveling to heavily populated areas which would be fine because they don't really want to anyway.

[@coralineparmentierworldpianist]

I remember seeing this in theaters in 2007 when I was 12. I was a big fan of the books. This movie had a golden cast and my regret is that they didn't produce the entire trilogy. Maybe the series reboot will be popular but for me, this movie is the only Golden Compass who counts.

[@worrywirt]

Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace THANK YOU!!! Everyone keeps bashing this movie but I loved it when I saw it as an 8 year old and I love it now.

[@ayesha36]

There is going to be a BBC miniseries based on the books.

[@Kugrox]

A golden cast? Go fuck yourself.

[@bombalisa2724]

Yes a golden cast you dipshit. Just Dakota Blue Richards alone makes this gold you fuck

[@lizkeefer3380]

When I was younger I was listening to the audiobook on my radio and my mom walked in and took it away because of the demons (we were going to a very strict church at the time) and I never listened or watch the movie again. And to make matter worse it was like 4:00 am because we were about to leave for vacation and The Golden Compass was the only audiobook I had. It was the worst drive to the beach ever.

[@davidsumner6002]

You should watch it it’s good

[@atomichabanero9101]

should of removed a sin for him taking the crown back and ripping the other bears jaw off that was the best part.

[@anacoronado6410]

RIGHT!? I love that scene

[@wolfren1386]

I could have sworn that scene wasn't put in the movie. I remember watching it and being disappointed in not seeing the other bear's jaw being ripped off.

[@MrShadowpanther3]

It was in the version I saw and he had a clip of it here. Entirely possible someone was offended by it and the "TV" versions now cut it.

[@hdofu]

I'm sure theres a censored version much like the tv version of frightners has an alternate scene that takes out the one guys head getting blown off with a shotgun.

[@Brian-_.]

Straight facts bro. Like actually I agree. Dude that was ligitness

[@Kaiso54]

The books are not children books. The movie couldn't go anywhere from where they started. The next parts are way too weird and philosophical for the target audience of the first movie.

[@GoatPopsicle]

That was the same as Harry Potter too. The first movies were very simplistic, and the heavy stuff only came way later.

[@TeaTimeLethe]

When I heard about it being into a movie I wondered how they would do the remaining ones. After watching the first one I went, I guess they'll just cut random parts and end it when they want to hahaha

[@nostalgiakid4563]

The best scene is by far the fight scene with Iorek and Ragnar.

[@matiskrawiec]

They couldn't even get the names right; Ragnar is called Iofur in the book

[@MsCaptainChase]

That's pretty much the coolest scene in the book, too. I mean, his name was Iofur, not Ragnar, so that's another sin, imo. :P

[@HaploidCell]

The bears, right? It actually floored me that they put that scene into a PG book. Like, how is that level of gore not at least one level higher? The entire book/movie is kinda dark, too, which I applaud. Mature themes in YA is what we need. I'm trying to think of gory / gross / violent moments in Harry Potter, but I mostly come up with stuff that is funny. They kill each other with flashes of light from little wooden sticks, they don't blast each other's jaws from their faces with explosions. Ice bear gotta ice bear, I guess?

[@magicallydelicious1673]

This movie could literally be classified as my childhood. This and the Great Gastby. Now that I look back on them, they’re dumb, but they will always have a special place in my heart.

[@dBolotok]

*"Movie has decided to Potter so hardcore I'm surprised it doesn't have clay all over its hands."* Why aren't you nominated for nobel prize for literature yet?

[@rui_si]

Words can't express how much I loved the trilogy of books. Again words fail me when I try to describe how sad and disappointed this adaptation made me.

[@stevengibson2251]

I agree, the book series was great. Have not seen the movie. I know the Roman Catholic Church, was against the movie and calling for it's boycott because Phillip Pullman was said to be atheist.

[@henrybatten3315]

When you complain that the movie is giving you too much information then a minute or two later complain that its not giving you enough xD.

[@Isaac-gj8tf]

Im so glad the tv series happend and gave this story a worthy medium

[@mindscapejem]

All your Daemon questions are directly answered in the books. And the answer to most of them, for better or for worse, is yes.

[@mindscapejem]

Y-yeah...that's the point?

[@brandonwhite1021]

@@mindscapejem Still sinful. You can't just say "read the book", the movie has the obligation to explain it. Mostly because, unless you're watching the movie BECAUSE you're a fan of the book, chances are you haven't read the book. I'm sure most people watching this, or si mk liar movies, did not even know there was a book.

[@mindscapejem]

I'm not arguing the fact that the movie is or isn't sinful. All I'm just saying is that the answers do exist, and unfortunately most of them are yes. 1. Yes, if you harm a Daemon the daemon's master is also hurt. If you kill a daemon, the daemon's master dies. It's not one-to-one though. 2. Yes, there are plenty of animals that exist in the books that aren't just daemons, such as birds and fish. Also, people are aware if an animal is an animal or a daemon because, for the most part, there is a maximum distance a daemon can be separated from a human. (Barring some Gobbler chicanery or some other unfortunate incident.) 3. Masters are not always aware of what a daemon is doing, but the daemons are typically aware of what their master are doing. The daemon is kind of like an extension of the master. The english speaking daemons are based on the intelligence and compatibility with their master as well as a matter of trust. Mrs. Coulter's monkey can speak English, but chooses not to unless it's absolutely necessary. She uses this to her advantage a few times across all three books. Daemons are limited in terms of size and capability of the master, as a general rule, however, daemons are not able to be larger than their master. The type of animal the daemon becomes is determined around puberty and will typically be an animal that is the most useful to and a reflection of the master. 4. Yes, servant class people will almost always have dogs. Explorers may have owls or rabbits, hunters may have wolves or huskies and seafaring people may end up with dolphins or seagulls. They are a reflection of yourself and will not change after they have "set" into a position, typically around puberty.

[@ArkhamKratos]

Do Infinity War Next Please!

[@GadoStark]

Did it ever get a part two?

[@PalataoBola0]

CinemaSins - Negative Sins Supercut Part 1 (January 2018 to June 2018) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6C0iKWZa7KcY9E

[@112523]

that means hes gotta sin everything related to shitty CG also, that movie aint as awesome as people make it seem tho its better then most marvel shitshows

[@eay1652]

SupahFly Good bait.

[@shroomie108]

Probably waiting for captain marvel or the untitled avemgers 4 movie next year

[@terencebok]

The funny thing is that the kid who plays roger looks the same as 2008 roger.

[@thepropersoles3347]

Hahahhahaaaa...... you killed this video.... -3 sins for you ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nyxshadowhawk]

I've heard that His Dark Materials is FINALLY getting a good adaptation. I honestly don't care how accurate to the book it is as long as it's better than this movie.

[@TMLCJLK]

8:55 This officially turned into a RedLetterMedia video with this out of nowhere reference to Star Trek that only exists to complete the Star Trek quota.

[@ffnendhgrgd]

That's impossible because the video isn't an hour long

[@4L3X006]

hahahaah sick burn, but RLM is awesome no matter how long the reviews are

[@jenmackenzie6753]

I would really like to see what would happen if cinema sins made his own movie.

[@Amokra]

"No Movie Is Without Sin" :) I would love to see how many sins they can add to the movie :)

[@andrewb5489]

No apples, and plenty of lap dances I'm sure

[@dragontyron]

I have a hunch it would turn out a little like the movie Rubber. I'm not sure why.

[@olympian3]

This movie feels like somebody was trying to force a point or narrative rather than making entertainment

[@yukiii9893]

the bears are the only good thing about this movie

[@Alan-r1d]

Yea it's showing us the other lands over that icewall😅🎉

[@gabigg5861]

The movie might’ve been poorly written, but the books are classics and, in my opinion, are far too complex for a 2 hour film.

[@Onlyitsmereid]

Which is exactly why there is a two season tv show

[@MiosPanties]

@@dagbackerud3247 Please explain yours.

[@treeckogreen8577]

Having read them as a 12 year old and a 25 year old I also feel that they may have been a tad too complex for my first read through...My English teacher at the time also felt that as I made the trilogy the focus of a project after reading them and she was shocked (I assume in part that I found them in the school library)

[@goncalosanhudodeportocarre9591]

I'm gonna start selling t-shirts saying : #whereisthemilk?! That is totally a thing now. 😎

[@sophiadove2470]

DO IT! MAKE THOSE BEAUTIFULL TEE SHIRT YOU BEAUTIFUL PERSON!!!

[@priscillajimenez27]

Got milk?

[@rickymex704]

Nah Mega Milk is the way to go.

[@BlueArdea]

I read this right as he said the line, wow.

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

No one cares.

[@CalciumChief]

The more you go "Do Infinity War", the less Infinity War you're gonna get.

[@battlesheep2552]

Is it the HL3 of Cinemasins?

[@Katenkiokotsu]

too soon man, too soon xD

[@PoizenJam]

The infinity War episode will come out as soon as they have a clickbaity, trendy reason to publish their bad takes :p

[@HAL-vm3wn]

It will take as long as for The Bee Movie

[@Krondon-SSR]

Do you have a say?

[@BrentHollett]

The "Encyclopedia Blonde" joke is showing the writer's room's age.

[@GathKingLeppbertI]

I was scrolling through the comments hoping to see someone else is of a specific age. I know someone on the crew (writer probably) is younger than I by a smidgen. And I remember the VN police action, the moon landing and the SLA.

[@moonchroom8339]

The books are great, but the movie... not so much

[@westerlybog]

How about the game?

[@mindlessscarecrow4886]

Westerly 777 what game?

[@martonantoni575]

And while the movie might be full of young adult cliches, the books not so much.

[@Nicamon]

The movie is fucking *PERFECT!*

[@James.Stark.Ben.Edition]

@@mindlessscarecrow4886 the game from the movie. Look it up.

[@88happiness]

I love the thought of having our souls outside our bodies in the form of an animal.

[@rayhamonangan7430]

coming here after finishing season 1 of His Dark Materials

[@kaleb3996]

"Where's the freaking milk ?" I busted out laughing # relatable

[@missasissa]

Honestly, the daemons were the only thing that interested me in this movie. And now I have to read the books for research about them.

[@714KH]

You should though. They're amazing.

[@ZonnexNecton]

Can't wait for your Everything Wrong With Golden Compass 2... oh!

[@autumbreeze1129]

4:20 I honestly only know of Derek Jacobi because he was The Master in Doctor Who season 3 briefly before he regenerated into John Sim

[@AbelMcTalisker]

In the UK he`s best known for the old BBC series "I Claudius" from years ago (which also had John Hurt as Caligula). He has appeared in a LOT of things since though mainly in character roles.

[@mattroberts86]

I read these books, plot really didn't become clear until book 2 when the other universes came into play. Very much had a unique wavelength that the movie didn't capture. Was good, detailed storytelling for about 3/4 the way, 3 books or was it 4 ? then as the story wound down it did get dark and to the personal level complete with a travel in and out of a hellish region which was longish and followed just the main character for AWHILE. The last book definitely lost all sense of enjoyable childish adventure, even though you always knew some serious concepts were involved. An interesting world was all laid out ready for an epic conclusion, but then it just had an ending. It was a uniquely odd story that came at you from a different angle and I remember a feeling than you were never filled in on motives and meanings, the ah ha moment when the bad guy is clearly the bad guy and taken care of never really came. The plot and characters didn't fall apart or anything....just definitely different. Not an easy one to abbreviate into film and the production didn't quite overcome that. Somehow the golden locket universe didn't get expressed in the movie, felt reminded of similar characters and other movies more than the world in the book.

[@treeckogreen8577]

That is a unique aspect that I love about the series, it just kind of ends. The characters make a couple crucial decisions but to no real climax, just an end where life goes back to the mundane. Its kind of like LotR in that to distill it down to a 2 hour movie is impossible (and even LotR went well over 2 hours per film and they cut it down with a butchers knife)

[@MrG360oneX]

I remember we started watching this in class then one of my classmates couldnt watch it because it was "against his religion" so instead of relaxing and watching a movie we did worksheets

[@Eva-kl3fy]

*IN THE BOOK, THEY ACTUALLY...*

[@gaminggoof1542]

Did Kidman ask the little girl to kiss her? I'm not sure if I should be disturbed, question why, or slightly be turned on since Kidman's saying it

[@Arenuphis]

iirc, she asks her to kiss her on the cheek and then lyra is timid for a few pages

[@berengustav7714]

Went to Bolvinger first then to the Bears.

[@sheepchronicles3248]

possibly my favourite "everything wrong with" yet...

[@destuctivesniper]

What is dust? Well... *snorts a line*, THAT'S what dust is. Truly magical.

[@gillianl8932]

I forgot this movie exists and had the weirdest deja vu when I binge watched His Dark Materials yesterday

[@aytuser9737]

I honestly feel like we've been robbed of amazing sequels

[@thomaslaing6800]

When I first saw this film, before I read the book, I though Mrs Coulter was lying about being Lyra’s mom. Upon reading the book, I was genuinely surprised by the twist that it was true.

[@rhysnunnerley9418]

The fact you mentioned spaceship earth has made my day 😂

[@The_Nerd_King]

Sigh, I wish this movie got a sequel like it so desperately needed. I'm sure the show coming out is gonna pretty good, but I prefer a movie. And another sin This isn't Infinity War *Ding!*

[@TheRealSigyn]

I was just thinking about rewatching this movie wtf me and my brother are reading the series, we’re on the third book

[@GIFT1FROM1THE1GODZ]

Yeah me too, I remember liking it a lot.

[@Jing737]

The books are great, and the only way to finish the story, since they never made the sequels into movies

[@noahbradley4631]

That and the fact that the film completely butchers the story of the first

[@nicolettegascon7091]

The State is Your Lord and Saviour they destroyed any chance of a sequel. The ending for the first book should have been there, but I guess it was too brutal to keep its kid friendly rating. They did get the actors right though

[@alkalineb]

Be ready for that ending. Whew lads

[@thetainowarrior9902]

If a daemon gets their tail stepped on, the human would probably feel it in their coccyx.

[@charlie-mia2410]

This movie is so good at setting it’s self up for a sequel, possibly a trilogy. I haven’t watched the series and I hope it addresses all the questions this movie raises (like with the demons). I just wish they made a second movie not long after this one

[@DoratTheKiller]

Well, there is an HBO/BBC TV series of it, "His Dark Materials"

[@net_spider]

"Wheres the freakin milk!" Been there with roommates....

[@SchlangeVonEden]

The books were my favourites, growing up, but oh boy do I loathe this movie. They got absolutely everything wrong right from the beginning narration: Tone, designs, story, names, voices, even Mrs. Coulters hair! Still, this movie was a first for me, back then in high-school - the first time I was certain I could have written a better script than a professional script-writer. The bar here is pretty low. By the way, the reason why the Magisterium feels so analogous to the catholic church is that it literally IS the catholic church (with a slightly different history, parallel world and all that). The makers of this travesty were just too spineless to keep that explanation in. F§%K this movie.

[@hiraetheria]

Serpent@Eden The thing is after watching the movie Philip Pullman agreed that Mrs Coulter’s hair should’ve been blonde.

[@tattieverb265]

Right, here’s a debate. Who’s the best lord asriel? Daniel Craig or James McAvoy? I’m voting James.

[@emilyhang7294]

McAvoy

[@adenuristiqomah984]

McAvoy of course

[@oddlyunable5592]

I actually watched this recently for the first time and was increasingly disappointed with there being no second part, not a sequel, but the rest of the gosh dang movie!

[@invisibleking726]

10:20 when he said "This conversation may as well be in another language". I can relate to that mainly cause my Mexican Mother took me to a party at her friends house (where i seemed to be the only child) and this movie was on the TV in Spanish. Keep in mind the only Spanish I learned was from a little girl to talked to animals and objects with faces

[@shuttittuppitt9355]

Nothing from Taco Bell, or Speedy Gonzales?!

[@alphaengine3048]

OMG it's Volibear with Golden Armor!😂

[@walterspoon530]

I was looking for this comment like the thumbnail looks exactly like voliabear

[@alphaengine3048]

@@walterspoon530 Here you are m8, I thought the same😂👍👌

[@ShopFloorMonkey]

The tragedy about all the Potter-ing is that the first book actually predates Potter by two years. They eviscerated the story for the film, thus sadly guaranteeing that there were no sequels. I remember having high hopes for this movie trilogy and can only be thankful that they only got to mangle the first one! Hopefully the series will be better.

[@lunarkomet]

Another thing that makes no sense is how the eskimo tribe brings specifically Lyra to the bear king just for him to sit there and wonder who she is thus allowing her to fool him; why the heck did they kidnap her?!