Everything WRONG with The Rings of Power - PART 1 - Map, first image, Harfoots & posters

[@johnallen6254]

The biggest downside for me is that Celebrimbor looks like a tax accountant….

[@CounciloftheRings]

😂

[@timerover4633]

I know quite a few tax accountants, and that is an insult to them. More like a long-serving bureaucrat who is neither civil nor a servant, but just keeping a seat warm.

[@nickdarr7328]

He's actually the creator of Elfen maternity wear for men. Feanor would be proud

[@shadf7902]

How do you breed orcs?

[@CounciloftheRings]

Well that depends which Tolkien notes you prefer (sorta). He changed his mind a ton of times, so there are several explanations, but he never seemed to make up his mind

[@grasworxTTGameplan]

Funny how the "map" has folds and creases like a modern map you'd find at an airport kiosk or a gas station... maps back in the day [until the automobile age, at the very least] would have been made from some animal skin and rolled up-never folded 😑

[@ExistentialFries]

ruthless

[@frocat5163]

I mean...Amazon has made it pretty clear they don't give a damn about respecting the lore. Or even attempting to maintain anything even resembling internal consistency.

[@Howarth78]

I never liked the map Faramir gets out in Two Towers. It just looked far too clean, like an office print out! 🖨

[@ZachsBizarreAdventures]

You can fold a map...

[@TheOnlyReynoldsWrap]

That's such a minor thing though. Like honestly, who cares. When Gandalf was looking at the map of the Lonely Mountain in the FOTR, no one complained that the map had folds and creases. Besides, this is not based on our historical timeline, maybe in the lotr universe they didn't use animal skin for maps.

[@bast8081]

Thank you for not doing everything you can to skate around the issues like most other LOtR channels.

[@CounciloftheRings]

The truth should never go unspoken when given an honest review 😁 I talk some more about coloured elves in part 2, but decided not to talk about coloured dwarves, mainly because I spend a very long time ranting about dwarf-women having beards. It is a very fascinating topic and I think if there were something like the petty-dwarves in Harad it would make sense with coloured dwarves, but not in any other case. There's a lot more to discuss in part 2 - including two infamous self-proclaimed Tolkien experts - I hope you stick around 😊

[@morbidone88]

There are plenty of channels shitting on it. I still appreciate channels like MotW and NotR for their lore

[@sifuhotman1300]

"LOTR" channels Amazon RoP is nothing but rape. It's not lotr.

[@Enerdhil]

@@CounciloftheRings 🤣😅😂 I am waiting for some SJW to call you racists for how you justify black Dwarves.😂😅🤣😅😂 I can't stop laughing.😂😅🤣

[@seregrian5675]

@@Enerdhil It is as predictable as the Sun rising...

[@istari0]

Excellent video! I have to confess that when I first saw the title and that the video was only a little over 8 minutes long, my reaction was there's no way he can fit everything wrong into just 8 minutes. Then I noticed it was PART 1.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Haahah maybe is people had to play it in slow motion XD I guess there will be 6 parts, but a lot of new stuff gets released these days, so perhaps even more, but I think the lore-accuracy will end below 12%, but time will tell 😂

[@istari0]

@@CounciloftheRings Yeah, there's supposed to be a longer trailer in a week and perhaps an even longer one at the Comic-Con convention in San Diego near the end of the month.

[@ecthelionofthefountain8267]

Haha! I thought that too. No way you can fit everything wrong with Amazon's LOTR in 8 minutes.

[@CounciloftheRings]

@@ecthelionofthefountain8267 😂😂😂

[@Enerdhil]

@@CounciloftheRings 12% seems right. Just the cinematography of New Zealand should get it 10% at least.

[@gabrielbrennan4149]

Calm, knowledgeable *and* willing to address both rights and wrongs. You’ve got a sub.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Welcome to the Council 🤗

[@xavierruffin8739]

@@CounciloftheRings still kinda racist to say harfoots can't be black or its "wrong" for harfoots to be black. To be clear - they aren't all black on the show. Also - this is all made up make believe fiction... and up for interpretation so saying its "wrong" ... nah can't get. down with that.

[@fantasywind3923]

Another points with the hobbits in Second Age is that most likely the culturally they are all wrong, first it would be the Fallohides who would be the nomadic, forest dwelling hunters, while the Harfoots are firmly the hole dwellers, they lived in the hills in the holes in the ground from which habit the very name HOBBIT came to be :) derived from the language of Rohirrim/Eotheod, second the Hobbits of early days would be primitive so they would not yet know how to read or write, had no books or anything of the sort, they are illiterate at this time, another thing the surnames, the habit of adding surnames to personal names developed much later in Third Age more or less around the time they settled in Shire. Those could make into part 2 :) hehe.

[@leserin1389]

Aren't the names wrong too? There can be no Elanor, much less Brandyfoot, before the settlement of the Shire. And what about a nomad named "Burrows"?

[@fantasywind3923]

@@leserin1389 yeah that was part of my point, Brandyfoot seems to be combination of random elements, Brandy- can only come from the hobbits name Brandywine which was their hobbitish alteration of the name of a river, in elvish Baranduin, river they should yet in Second Age not yet know :) foot ending can be anything the term Harfoot is general term play on the hairy feet of the hobbits, but funnything is the word hobbit comes from holbytla, which is hole dweller, hole builder: "In the case of persons, however, Hobbit-names in the Shire and in Bree were for those days peculiar, notably in the habit that had grown up, some centuries before this time, of having inherited names for families. Most of these surnames had obvious meanings in the current language, being derived from jesting nicknames, or from place-names, or (especially in Bree) from the names of plants and trees. Translation of these presented little difficulty; but there remained one or two older names of forgotten meaning, and these I have been content to anglicize in spelling: as Took for _Tûk_, or Boffin for _Bophîn_. I have treated Hobbit first-names, as far as possible, in the same way. To their maid-children Hobbits commonly gave the names of flowers or jewels. To their man-children they usually gave names that had no meaning at all in their daily language; and some of their women's names were similar. Of this kind are Bilbo, Bungo, Polo, Lotho, Tanta, Nina, and so on. There are many inevitable but accidental resemblances to names that we now have or know: for instance Otho, Odo, Drogo, Dora, Cora, and the like. These names I have retained, though I have usually anglicized them by altering their endings, since in Hobbit-names _a_ was a masculine ending, and _o_ and _e_ were feminine. In some old families, especially those of Fallohide origin such as the Tooks and the Bolgers, it was, however, the custom to give high-sounding first-names. Since most of these seem to have been drawn from legends of the past, of Men as well as of Hobbits, and many while now meaningless to Hobbits closely resembled the names of Men in the Vale of Anduin, or in Dale, or in the Mark, I have turned them into those old names, largely of Frankish and Gothic origin, that are still used by us or are met in our histories. I have thus at any rate preserved the often comic contrast between the first-names and surnames, of which the Hobbits themselves were well aware. Names of classical origin have rarely been used; for the nearest equivalents to Latin and Greek in Shire-lore were the Elvish tongues, and these the Hobbits seldom used in nomenclature. Few of them at any time knew 'the languages of the kings', as they called them." ... "Note on three names: _Hobbit, Gamgee, and Brandywine.__Hobbit_ is an invention. In the Westron the word used, when this people was referred to at all, was _banakil_ 'halfling'. But at this date the folk of the Shire and of Bree used the word _kuduk_, which was not found elsewhere. Meriadoc, however, actually records that the King of Rohan used the word kûd-dûkan 'hole-dweller'. Since, as has been noted, the Hobbits had once spoken a language closely related to that of the Rohirrim, it seems likely that _kuduk_ was a worn-down form of kûd-dûkan. The latter I have translated, for reasons explained, by _holbytla_; and _hobbit_ provides a word that might well be a worn-down form of _holbytla_, it that name had occurred in our own ancient language." ... "Hobbit_ was the name usually applied by the Shire-folk to all their kind. Men called them _Halflings_ and the Elves _Periannath._ The origin of the word _hobbit_ was by most forgotten. It seems, however, to have been at first a name given to the Harfoots by the Fallohides and Stoors, and to be a worn-down form of a word preserved more fully in Rohan: _holbytla_ 'hole-builder'." ... "_Baranduin_ Brandywine seemed a natural corruption in modern times. Actually the older hobbit-name was _Branda-nîn_ 'border-water', which would have been more closely rendered by Marchbourn; but by a jest that had become habitual, referring again to its colour, at this time the river was usually called _Bralda-hîm_ 'heady ale'. It must be observed, however, that when the Oldbucks (Zaragamba) changed their name to Brandybuck (Brandagamba), the first element meant 'borderland', and Marchbuck would have been nearer. Only a very bold hobbit would have ventured to call the Master of Buckland _Braldagamba_ in his hearing." all this is in the appendices that they so claim are their source :), and indeed a surname like Burrows would indicate habit of burrowing, so making a hobbit hole :) and would be definitely associated with some settled folk (and again as that fragment tells clearly the surnames developed way later after Second Age it seems :)).

[@CounciloftheRings]

It actually already is - not in part 2 though, but when discussing the empire magazines 😁

[@kamion53]

I don't think Tolkien himself cared very much for a cultural and technological evolution in his Middle Earth, so Hobbits before migrating to the Shire were technological about the same as those living in the Shire in the Third Age. He rather abhorred the Industrial Revolution and connected that to the corrupted Saruman and when he writes about evolution it is the evolution of language, for the rest human civilasation springs into excistance with the technological capacity of about the 8th/9th century CE. Probably the level the Anglosaxon kingdoms had. His first draft of the Middle Earth cycli was set in a Anglosaxon period.

[@fantasywind3923]

@@kamion53 well you'd be surprised but Tolkien mentions that in those terms the earliest hobbits were less inclined towards technical skills, the hobbits of the Shire actually developed somewhat more, though still were not big on quick technological change, but they got refined and taught many skills and much knowledge after their migration to Eriador, before settling the Shire, for instance Tolkien notes that Hobbits actually learned the craft of building: " In olden days they had, of course, been often obliged to fight to maintain themselves in a hard world; but in Bilbo's time that was very ancient history. .... ... "It is probable that the craft of building, as many other crafts beside, was derived from the Dúnedain. But the Hobbits may have learned it direct from the Elves, the teachers of Men in their youth. For the Elves of the High Kindred had not yet forsaken Middle-earth, and they dwelt still at that time at the Grey Havens away to the west, and in other places within reach of the Shire. Three Elf-towers of immemorial age were still to be seen on the Tower Hills beyond the western marches. They shone far off in the moonlight. The tallest was furthest away, standing alone upon a green mound. The Hobbits of the Westfarthing said that one could see the Sea from the lop of that tower; but no Hobbit had ever been known to climb it. Indeed, few Hobbits had ever seen or sailed upon the Sea, and fewer still had ever returned to report it. Most Hobbits regarded even rivers and small boats with deep misgivings, and not many of them could swim. And as the days of the Shire lengthened they spoke less and less with the Elves, and grew afraid of them, and distrustful of those that had dealings with them; and the Sea became a word of fear among them, and a token of death, and they turned their faces away from the hills in the west. The craft of building may have come from Elves or Men, but the Hobbits used it in their own fashion. They did not go in for towers. Their houses were usually long, low, and comfortable. The oldest kind were, indeed, no more than built imitations of smials, thatched with dry grass or straw, or roofed with turves, and having walls somewhat bulged. That stage, however, belonged to the early days of the Shire, and hobbit-building had long since been altered, improved by devices, learned from Dwarves, or discovered by themselves. A preference for round windows, and even round doors, was the chief remaining peculiarity of hobbit-architecture. The houses and the holes of Shire-hobbits were often large, and inhabited by large families. (Bilbo and Frodo Baggins were as bachelors very exceptional, as they were also in many other ways, such as their friendship with the Elves.) Sometimes, as in the case of the Tooks of Great Smials, or the Brandybucks of Brandy Hall, many generations of relatives lived in (comparative) peace together in one ancestral and many-tunnelled mansion. All Hobbits were, in any case, clannish and reckoned up their relationships with great care. They drew long and elaborate family-trees with innumerable branches. In dealing with Hobbits it is important to remember who is related to whom, and in what degree. It would be impossible in this book to set out a family-tree that included even the more important members of the more important families at the time which these tales tell of. The genealogical trees at the end of the Red Book of Westmarch are a small book in themselves, and all but Hobbits would find them exceedingly dull. Hobbits delighted in such things, if they were accurate: they liked to have books filled with things that they already knew, set out fair and square with no contradictions." So it took some time and migration and contact with other peoples to actually have them learn construction, they also were illiterate before, and later they learned to write and read they started to like books, but they were never much into science in general, though there were always few of those who gathered knowledge. "A love of learning (other than genealogical lore) was far from general among them, but there remained still a few in the older families who studied their own books, and even gathered reports of old times and distant lands from Elves, Dwarves, and Men. Their own records began only after the settlement of the Shire, and their most ancient legends hardly looked further back than their Wandering Days." This alone shows there was some cuiltural evolution of their societies! Naturally it was only part of the hobbit nature to be distrustful of more advanced stuff: "They do not and did not understand or like machines more complicated than a forge-bellows, a water-mill, or a hand-loom, though they were skilful with tools ..."

[@parker2520]

You know, I just want what Tolkien wrote. I don't want randos to be able to come up with 5 seasons of material people will discuss in the same breath as Tolkien's actual Legendarium just because a corporation had money. This isn't Tolkien. I don't care if they keep their own material "internally consistent" with what Tolkien wrote because he "technically never said [insert thing]". I want this hijacking and co-opting of Tolkien's work to just disappear. Also, fight back against Amazon by signing and sharing the Stop Selling "Rings of Power" Covers petition online! Make your voices heard and don't give in if they somehow make the official trailer looks pretty when it drops cause the show will still be a subversion of Tolkien and a wholly original story utilizing a preestablished framework they don't have most of the rights to.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Funny enough - this is exatly what I say in part 2 😆

[@parker2520]

@@CounciloftheRings Haha! I'm looking forward to seeing part 2! Glad that you speak honestly on this subject! It is so cathartic.

[@bernicia-sc2iw]

Believe it or not , a lot of Tolkien fans are willing to give it a chance . It is simply an interpretation of Tolkien that may or may not work , nothing more than that . Evil corporations run everything , yet people are singling out this particular show for special treatment it seems , which is strange. Anyway , Jackson succeeded , then failed , and I am ready for a fresh vision of middle earth , although I have some concerns as many do. I'll judge the show after the first series , and if it's diabolical i'll say so . If it's good , despite being 'lore inaccurate' , then I won't suppress my honest reaction . You can't say the same about the armies of KZbinrs who have already -prematurely- nailed their colours to the mast . The books will still be there , unchanged, after Rings of Power , to be read by viewers who liked the show if they want to .

[@kaelinvictus6039]

@@bernicia-sc2iw Except for the fact that this isn't just an "interpretation of Tolkien", its a deconstruction of Tolkien to whatever they want him to be. The writers and showrunners already labelled him racist and his work "problematic". People who say "they are holding judgement" despite of the obvious and pretentious red flags are just willfully ignorant.

[@kaelinvictus6039]

@@ClaytonStone895 simply because I can think for myself and amazon did not pay me anything to "tolerate" the bastardization of Tolkien's work.

[@earendil5736]

Are you Macbeth of Gondor? omg, i didnt know you have this channel

[@CounciloftheRings]

Indeed I am! 😁 really? I’ve tried pretty hard to promote this channel too

[@Michael-uo6sq]

Well done for not shying away from the obvious black washing.

[@anonymussicarius8899]

Looking forward to the next part. I find teh double standards in todays society hilarious: for it is ok to say Gal Gadot can not play Cleopatra, but if someone says that Jodie Turner-Smith can´t play Anne Boleyn then they are racist. *facepalm*

[@TallisKeeton]

why she cannot play Cleopatra VII ? She actualy has adequate features and color to play her :)

[@anonymussicarius8899]

@@TallisKeeton Because according to those ppl, Cleopatra, as a egyptian queen, was: black. *facepalm*

[@TallisKeeton]

@@anonymussicarius8899 what? but she got Greek origin :D

[@anonymussicarius8899]

@@TallisKeeton I know. And the egyptians weren´t black either. XD But these are the ppl who think it is perfectly justified to attack an actress based on their imagination of the black-skin color of a historic figure, while simultaneously claiming that anyone who complains about the skin color of an actor is a HORRIBLE racist. Oh the sweet, sweet hypocritical irony. :D

[@TallisKeeton]

@@anonymussicarius8899 :D

[@BobanG.]

Such a great video, interesting and original. The editing is superb.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks a lot! I'll avoid the zoom in on low res images in the future though. That feels very uncomfortable, but then again I guess that's the theme with the Rings of Power 😂

[@rosie_gamgee]

@@CounciloftheRings Oh yes, I forgot to mention the editing. It's amazing

[@Enerdhil]

@@CounciloftheRings I like the way you seriously talk about everything and interject humor in the video with great editing. 😁👍

[@kaizokujimbei143]

"Το κακό δεν μπορεί να δημιουργήσει τίποτα καινούργιο, μπορεί μόνο να διαφθείρει και να καταστρέψει αυτά που οι καλές δυνάμεις έχουν εφεύρει ή κατασκευάσει." -J.R.R. Tolkien

[@dnaseb9214]

Honestly a "everything right" video would be like 5 sec long. These people never herd of a tan.

[@phantomteammate8271]

It is very uncomfortable to think of a supposedly bad character (and/or brother of Galadriel) as being named Adar (father in Sindarin). I suppose the only thing that makes this better is that they didn’t name him Ada (daddy).

[@etienneporras7252]

Halbrand's sword being Rohirrim inspired would be lore inaccurate, but being simply HORSE inspired wouldn't be TOO inaccurate. The Numenorians were horseriders. The question would become what relation Halbrand has to the Numenoreans or any other horseriding race like the Easterlings. The Rohirrim were not to only horsemen in Middle-Earth, something more people ought to remember.

[@Dorkyorcy]

I'm so glad I found your channel. You seem to have more knowledge of Tolkien and his work than any so called 'expert' I've seen.

[@loyalMagicGamer]

Maybe he can join in the lawsuit lol

[@slayskool1964]

EVERYONE torrent this show! If Amazon doesn't get the ratings they desperately need, they'll pull the plug on this woke trash.

[@goldventuresgaming3399]

I don’t think we should ever see Valanor. Keep it as a mysterious and godly place. Like us humans aren’t supposed to see it

[@Nebleez]

Amazon is pissing all over Tolkien's work....how can they fucking do this, they have the book....follow it, and yes, make somthing new thats ok...but this garbage is just sad.....WHY DO THEY DO THIS.....

[@spacejunk2186]

The Hobbits are only in this show because people know and like Hobbits. It is the same reason why every Star Wars movie needs the Falcon or over the top lighsaber fights now. It is all member berries intended to make people feel good because they recognise something they know. Insert RLM's "AT-ST! AT-ST! AT-ST!" here.

[@danieljakubowski622]

30 seconds in i like this video already xd

[@michaeldunn8507]

Your dour take on Amazons ringly dingly ding dongs of power gives me great hope. Another IP destroyed. The woke rule but not anymore...the tolkien fanbase is bigger

[@Relics_of_Arda]

Great video! Can't wait for part 2.

[@CounciloftheRings]

In part two I'm losing my mind over all the dumb stuff revealed in the Vanity Fair article 😂 The lore-inaccuracy points will glow red

[@Relics_of_Arda]

@@CounciloftheRings 😁 looking forward to it.

[@Enerdhil]

@@CounciloftheRings I agree with 100% of what you said in your video. There are some things that look good or seem good. I suppose I will agree with everything you say about the Vanity Fair articles.

[@scruffynerfherder33]

This guy knows his shit. And his voice is rather soothing. You earned a subscriber. Keep it up.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks! And welcome 🤗

[@damnedza9368]

I feel the same way. Wish I'd found the channel sooner.

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

Has frozen part way through part one so assume their server can't keep up with demand. Can't decide whether it is portentous or pretentious but tending towards the latter.

[@sorrowinchrist3387]

I did not like the theme music either in the trailer feels nothing like LOTR and they did this on purpose they wanted it to be very different. :(

[@ChaosTheory666]

There was noise in the background while watching so I first thought you were saying "halfwits".

[@canIshouldI]

This is not LOTR, it's fanfiction. Let's stop talking about LOTR when discussing TROP.

[@CrimsonAlchemist]

This isn't Tolkien's world it's a made up fantasy film by Amazon and their PC issues. I hope this fails big time. I'm Asian and I don't want to see Asian elves or Dwarves either

[@MAGAMAN]

It would be easier to do a video on everything they got right. Much, much, much easier.

[@Maryondo]

I found this video quite disappointing. ... it was far too soon over :D Feels like a nasty cliffhanger 😅

[@CounciloftheRings]

Hahaha i had huge trouble with my edit after I updated the program so the part with the vanity fair article needs editing. The video was first meant to be 30 minutes long, so I guess part two will be around 20 minutes long 🤔

[@Maryondo]

@@CounciloftheRings It better will be! ^^

[@MrRavellon]

Harfoots weren't black. They were much worse. They were French.

[@maineoutdoorsman677]

Awason should redo the movie ROOTS an do it with only white peoples,same same

[@alphonsusseketa6679]

Thank you my good sir for pointing these issues out . If Amazon was burning I wouldn't piss on it to put out the fire . I will always honour JRR Tolkien and the lore in his creations and will never betray this honour.

[@luelee6168]

This is what happens when you have inner city Americans making an adaptation of an English mythos. Whats next, an adaptation of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms depicting the Han empire as China Town in NY City?

[@elchuli89]

You have a nice voice to narrate videos, it reminds me Fallout games voice actors. Expecting part 2.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thank you very much! Oddly enough I have never really liked my own voice and people have said throughout my teenage years that I had a weird voice, so it was first when I started making KZbin some people actually said I had a good voice. So thank you very much! Very motivating🙏

[@bettysteve322716]

l boycott the whole franchise when they made The Hobbit 3 films in a blatant cash grab. W@hat's next, a remake of LotR trilogy, in NINE feature films?! (and l bet Tom STILL gets cut out, fingers crossed, best out of 3, he wins one for a change).

[@Andy_466]

Well done friend, great to see you channel growing.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks!

[@ajax201000]

a simpler title to choose would just be "middle-earth"

[@Gambitheart]

This series is a Blasphemy to Tolkien and Peter Jackson universe.

[@scottm3166]

Making this a drinking game and someone will be out cold

[@diabloakland]

Thank you! I am very unimpressed as well

[@offtheshelfET]

This is a great video series, really laid everything out in a concise way

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thank you! 😁

[@offtheshelfET]

@@CounciloftheRings No problem, look forward to season 2 if it's anywhere near as bad as season one lol

[@sithlorddarthbong4959]

This is a fantastic video!!! Thank you and keep up the great work!!!

[@DragonHustler]

I wonder if they'll have Dol Amroth after numenor falls coz the city of Dol Amroth was built in 3400SA 30 years before the last alliance...so it could exist...bot sure when Swan Knights existed though, I really need to see some Swan and Knights in some form in live action

[@CounciloftheRings]

Dol Amroth ftw! I get you! 🎉

[@fantasywind3923]

Swan knights seem to be a Third Age thing that is a development of a new type of military tradition, since in Second Age the Numenoreans did not have truly a proper cavalry forces, rarely they used horses in war, unless for some messengers, or light archers (who were often supplied from non-numenorean folk) it seems the Swan knights developed in early days of Gondor but more than likely in early Third Age since in the time of Isildur still the old numenorean tactics and military formations were a thing. But it would be great to finally acknowledge it's existance of the princedom of the Dol Amroth (though it would be still nearly 2 thousand years before it will get the name, for Dol Amroth was named in honor of elf Amroth of Lorien who drowned in the Bay of Belfalas and the princes of that place and land of Dor-en-Ernil land of the prince had added to them elvish blood. Amroth drowned about the year 1980 of Third Age. The land was colonized by the Numenoreans quite early though and already in times of Elendil there were lords ruling there that later were given title of prince.

[@sol-hunter2332]

When it comes to race, I think people forget that middle earth isn't the entire world, but one part, and it is medieval Europe. Not many black people at that time.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah I’m also very tired to hear the showrunners and cast say ‘We know the Third age very well, but this is the second age a very different time’. What in Durin’s balls are they talking about The Hobbit is just year 2941 and The Lord of the rings is roughly 3018-3019 😅 That’s basically like saying you know everything that occurs from year 0 to present day because you watched 2 films about World war two… The third age is extremely complex and in many ways (if you ask me) much more interesting. So many changes in such a small timeframe. The borders didn’t change as much in the second age.

[@m.unalercan8920]

Literally everything is wrong

[@J14Irish]

Who cares if a breed of hobbits are black tho? I don't see the problem...

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

To this point, if there was kot something wrong with Amazon's TROP, it will be taken as an omen of the end of days.

[@TVMAN1997]

Thank you not for holding back

[@josephklingelhutz2655]

Your voice is amazing. I could imagine you doing Glaurung

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks! Uuhh doing Glaurung would be fun 😁 That’s a great idea!

[@sirnickfit]

My new favorite KZbin channel, Ty for existing 🙏

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks for joining the Council 😁🤗

[@gavdalf5573]

It is true.. us Irish don't tan very well 🤦😂

[@CounciloftheRings]

😂

[@Quardoxial]

Great video

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks!

[@Khobotov]

It's the year 2055, Council of the Rings just released "Everything WRONG with The Rings of Power - PART 3742 -".

[@P-G-77]

Simple... this is a TOTAL, COMPLETE, INACCURATE USE OF TOLKIEN PROPERTIES, in my view of things now.

[@hoffy1955]

TROP is the kind of show you expect to get from first time "showrunners", whatever the fuck that is, who continue to say they respect the lore but don't. When Peter Jackson decided to make the Lord of the Rings everyone in a high level position on the film crew had read the books over and over and loved and respected Tolkien's work. They were always mindful of the thematic content and didn't put any of their baggage into the movies because they loved the mythology as Tolkien wrote it. J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay are NOT fans of Tolkien's work and it shows everywhere throughout this billion dollar dumpster fire. Their intent was to do the exact opposite of what Jackson did. No one in a high level position on this show is a dedicated fan of Middle Earth. The few true experts they hired like Tom Shippey were fired for disagreeing with Payne and McKay and what they were doing to the mythology. They have not respected the thematic material, canon or lore in fact, they have completely disrespected it. The unmitigated gaul of these two amateurs believing THEY know better than Tolkien how to write the second age of Middle Earth have produced a show that is bad across the board. Bad directing, editing, pacing, storytelling, acting, dialogue and generally all aspects of cinema except the CGI, and a billion dollars worth of that SHOULD be decent. If this story had nothing to do with Tolkien it would still SUCK! That they, in their infinite lack of wisdom, decided to dump ALL their PC and Woke baggage into the singularly greatest work of fantasy fiction of the 20th century shows just how clueless they are. Middle Earth is a fictional account of an English/Northern European pre-history. There were no black elves, black dwarf women without beards, no black Harfoots/Hobbits because dark-skinned races did not exist in this fictional geographic location! If they had he would have written them in. Warrior Galadriel did not exist either. Tolkien's Galadriel was so much more powerful than TROP's "Guyladriel" because she used her intellect and powers of persuasion to get what she needed. What she didn't need was to be a sword wielding "Mary Sue" Zena warrior princess! Bezos must certainly be feeling buyers remorse for having hired Jar Jar Abrams incompetent production team. A billion dollars for a show that could have been great but for the clown car of talentless hacks that were put in charge of it. I hope the other 4 seasons get cancelled before the next 2 years pass. Let this abomination pass into history with all the fanfare accorded an unmarked grave. That's all it deserves. RIP TROP....you suck!

[@ruhtraomuyap3396]

good LORE!!!

[@josverberne8454]

What a weak arguments. Mistakes in a map? Really? Did you ever see old maps of our own world? This is nitpicking. And then Halbrand. Oh my. Thats a strike for the show. It's not Tolkiens lore!! So Tolkien named everyone who ever lived in those, what? 6000 years? And creating an other person is baaaad! In every historie there are countless of hero's and important people, famous in their time, but forgotten non the less. If the show is worthy of Tolkiens lore will depent on it's vibe and overall feeling. The more they stay true to the source material, the happier I will be. But as with every adaptation they WILL deviate. So stop with this nonsense or stick to the really big things.

[@NewYears1978]

The fact that you could almost just call this series "Everything is wrong with Rings of Power" instead of "Everything wrong with Rings of Power Part #" and make it a 5 second video with just that thumbnail title, is pretty insane.

[@ashtonbrereton5139]

Honestly don’t understand why so many people have a issue with the show… it’s not like Peter Jackson follow cannon in the hobbits or lotr… azog was killed by dain iron foot at Moria ; glorfindel , not erywen, saved Frodo from the black riders; an important people omitted from the story like tom bombadil , glorfindal, cirdan, lord Elrond twin sons, etc… all those things and you guys still accept Peter Jackson version…. Give the show a chance … it may surprise you

[@MultiVeeta]

The fact that Hobbits and Harfoots are Halflings and Hobbits live in Hobbiton seems to be lost on people. What is so unusual for a nomadic tribe of Halflings to be called Harfoot? And this whole Harfoots and Elves shouldn't be black, well Middle Earth is not New Zealand etc., Elves and Harfoots are not Humans with plastic ears and feet either but in reality does it really matter in a movie.

[@walrusrobot5483]

Why are you confused on whether or not they can show the Two Trees? Of course they can, they are mentioned in the LOTR Appendices several times, which they have rights to.

[@CounciloftheRings]

I assumed they would go more in to detail about them, and not just show them for 2 seconds in the opening 😂 Mostly I just found it weird they dared to show anything you’d need The Silmarillion to fully explain, if you know what I mean 😁

[@walrusrobot5483]

@@CounciloftheRings because exposition about every little detail is unnecessary and boring? Scattering nuggets like that adds additional flavor to the story and helps with world building. It also was the first example of the corruption and evil infecting the trees, which is a visual and thematic metaphor they keep calling back to throughout the series.

[@CounciloftheRings]

@@walrusrobot5483 It would have been better to not show it at all in my opinion :P

[@yeshuaisking2010]

Sucks when directors dont follow the franchise or even the books. Makes it feelblike a money grab. However, so far, i am still watching and enjoying...but they need to right this ship.

[@shidelerdantheogre8487]

Shorter video would be everything right with rings of power

[@dragondude9637]

wanna bet they'll inject the same politics from the doomed "Batwoman" show into this one, and every episode will be about "straight white man bad" instead of focusing on the real threat going on with Sauron.

[@airborneranger-ret]

I had trouble following it. I couldn't figure out why "hobbit" was verboten but "Khazad-Dum" wasn't. The naval CGI was pretty badly done. I'm guessing there was no nautical advisor. :(

[@evenstar1608]

Dont expect anything. After all it's everything that Tolkien never wrote. They hated the English folklore so much that they change it to American folklore. I dont care really if they have an American Indian there doing kumbaya. After all, they never respect Tolkien.

[@pqsnet]

Vinea Londae? ---> 02:18 Interesting... Sounds like the Nordic name for America the Vikings used... Vinland (Wine-land). Also, I JUST LOVE Tolkien Fans, You dont buy the kinda Woke B.S movies today Force on people.

[@barrysingh2872]

A gladiator reference in a LOTR vid? You just got yourself a subscriber.

[@goldentwillight]

The potential of the show is strong but the choices are very bad, That’s what very one should simply say.

[@worldhello1234]

@6:31 That is not generous. You simply have no bone to pick. It is artistic freedom based on the way it is presented.

[@gohome59]

thank you for making this a series.

[@darkage5]

Maaaan Chop Chop on a lore based review of Diversity of the Rings. We need a real review!!!

[@FlecheDeFer]

There gonna be a lot of parts...

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah I’m pushing myself to get a lot more done fast 😂

[@giannisoikonomou3653]

they cant stick in the real content cause they dont have the rights to do so (for second age). So they make whatever they like.

[@theFLCLguy]

They should have just made a show about the blue wizards. They went to the regions with other ethnicities. It wouldn't mess with lore and they could whatever they wanted.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah not very Tolkien though 🤔

[@theFLCLguy]

@@CounciloftheRings nothing can match tolkien.

[@lied1484]

That was a great video. Thanks and keep up the good work! Subscribed and looking forward to part 2. Have a nice weekend.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks! And welcome! 🤗 I hope to have part 2 ready Sunday or Monday 😁

[@initiationsauxrunes4689]

Can we speak about cultural appropriation, there ?

[@celestialbreeze]

I'm really looking forward to the amazon series but i really thought this was a great video! Very well edited too. Jealous of all your tolkien knowledge so you've earned a sub from me!

[@andrewshanaghan797]

It was so boring I rather watch paint dry than submit myself to another hour of that torture.

[@jordanroberts3007]

The first map shown in the show, is during the time of Morgoth, and war of wrath and places it on the main body of middle earth... Not on the sunken lands west of middle earth where the war actually takes place.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Yeah it’s inaccurate in many ways. You can see the Númenórean port of Lond Daer marked as well. Super weird

[@timerover4633]

The best maps of Middle Earth can be found in Karen Wynn Fonstad's The Atlas of Middle Earth, which was based on all what had been published up to the early 1990s. It includes information from the Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales. Why Amazon is using such a poor map is beyond my comprehension.

[@thebrotherskrynn]

Great video, really agree with you on that darn time-compression. And congrats on hitting 3k subs my friend, am proud to say I knew you when you only had 450 subs, X) you deserve this success. Can't wait for you to reach 6k or 10k like Red Book has.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks! It’s been a long journey already, but it’s just getting started! 😁 I hope to hit 10k subs before the end of December, but time will tell! 😆

[@anarionelendili8961]

Nitpick: Lond Daer got its (new) name because it was between Pelargir and Mithlond, nothing to do with Tharbad. I am not too bothered by the dark-skinned hobbits. They are part of the race of Men, so it is possible that some of them had darker skin. I also don't see any reason why a branch of them could not have been called Harfoots (in whatever language they are using, since Westron doesn't exist yet). I can justify the skin-tone easily enough that the ancestral Harfoots might have had darker skin to start with and then mixed up a bit with Fallohides and Stoors to form the more cafe-au-lait complexion of the Shire Harfoots in the Third Age. But that is admittedly head canon. Absolutely no reason to include the hobbits in the Second Age stories, though. The time compression is my major peeve with this show, and I expect that will come up in Part 2.

[@hoon_sol]

What about the black elf, how do you justify that? Mixed race with predominantly Numenorean genes?

[@anarionelendili8961]

@@hoon_sol no mixing between Numenoreans and elves that we know of. Besides, both the elves and the Numenoreans are of fair skin. Most Numenoreans were of the House of Hador, looking more like the Rohirrim: blond with blue eyes. The dark-haired and grey-eyed Dunedain look is because most of the Faithful were from the House of Beor. Anyway, the skin color of the elf is not my main gripe. Like Peter Jackson used the hair color to distinguish between the high elves of Rivendell (dark hair) and the silvan elves (Lorien and Mirkwood), where as they both should have been almost exclusively dark-haired. I would accept a similar visual cue, if they'd cast all wood elves as browner of skin. Anyway, as said. I can look past that.

[@hoon_sol]

@@anarionelendili8961: It makes zero sense. What about the beardless black dwarf woman?

[@anarionelendili8961]

@@hoon_sol Unlike Elves, I don't think we have any canonical, categorical statements of the skin color of all the different dwarven clans. Aule could have patterned their skin color after the Humans. Or, same excuse: her distinctive appearance is to signal to the audience that she is a dwarf from another clan, who has married into the ruling family of Khazad-Dum. (Now do I think either one of the above is what will be in the series? No.) You can be mad at Peter Jackson for putting his Dwarven ladies (in the flashback scene of the Unexpected Journey) in dresses with rather generous bosoms. Which is definitely also lore-breaking. While I think it would have been a much more interesting take on the dwarves to have the women and the men be nigh-indistinguishable for the non-dwarves, I am much more able to overlook such minor cosmetic details rather than the time compression and major deviations from what Tolkien wrote, both what the canon characters do and shifts in the personalities of the canon characters.

[@maineoutdoorsman677]

They went even made yet they were breed from man an dwarf right half an half

[@horselad]

Referring the elf to a politician” where was the QC for that line

[@frocat5163]

Numenor is absolutely way too far east on that map, and almost certainly way too far south. Based on the scale provided on the map, Numenor is about 200 leagues west of Lindon, or 600 miles. Numenor is about half-way between Middle-Earth and Valinor, meaning Valinor is only about 1200 miles west of Middle-Earth. I call BS.

[@CounciloftheRings]

There are several accounts that sorta contradict each other, but if I had to place it I would have moved it further north as well

[@rosie_gamgee]

@Council of the Rings I am an ardent fan of this channel. Thank you so much for your polite, fair takes on all things RoP.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Thanks for all your heartwarming comments! 🤗

[@seregrian5675]

Suilaid, Rosie, it's good to see you here!

[@ellanenish5999]

Long waited for the video, thank you for this.

[@WolfeRavenwood]

I am a simple Rohirrim, i see a video about a blasphemous heresy, i click a like.

[@ericstephen1036]

👍

[@daidavies6210]

You haven’t seen the worst of it yet …. Trust me ?

[@Jeff-cn9up]

A better, more accurate title would be to add an "is" between "everything" and "wrong".

[@NoNameIsBest89]

Well done

[@acousticpineapple7851]

Lord of the Cringe - The Cringe of Power

[@gilthelad3924]

Nice video and congrats on monetization!

[@kensummers2894]

I cancelled Amazon Prime, you should too. Order products from the source websites.

[@CounciloftheRings]

I never bought anything from Amazon

[@curtislangford3181]

I Disagree COMPLETELY about Tirion. It's Super wrong(what a suprise)! The Calacirya is Translated as a cleft...a Narrow cut made by the Valar in the Pelori mountains to open a way for the Elves to breathe the air of the Living world into Aman. That region in the Amazon show doesn't look like a Narrow Valley. It has huge areas of Forest...and a whole River runs through the Center...tolkien said a Small stream ran through the pass. The Calacirya is supposed to be a PASS...what is a Pass? Think of the Battle of Thermopylae...A narrow area that can be easily Blocked. The entire Rohirrim could Gallop through the area that we previewed in the Amazon show.

[@CounciloftheRings]

Fair points! I didn't really notice that I was mainly referencing the roofs and wall colours being correct.