Everything Wrong With Watchmen In 17 Minutes Or Less

[@rubegoldberg6476]

Sin for not removing a sin after “you’re locked in here with me!” line.

[@sandwichgorsh7200]

yes

[@cascade5682]

we're not locked in with covid. covid is locked in with us.

[@LadyOnikara]

@@cascade5682 And we shall KICK that bastards ass to the freaking third moon of JUPITER!

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

@@LadyOnikara So, Ganymede?

[@chollettgarrett]

Was just thinking that!

[@johnwells1226]

Should have removed a sin for when the bad guy reveals his plan 17 minutes after the fact he started it

[@roguishpaladin]

...holy crap. I think that the video is 17 minutes long in homage to that fact. I didn't get that before now.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

Yeah unlike most villains he did it before the hero got there

[@kennethjennings5312]

@@mysteryjunkie9808 not good hero’s then

[@IamEnygma]

@@roguishpaladin 35 minutes actually

[@mouktaralbert246]

Rorschach and his monologue noir detective scenes were the best parts of this movie.

[@karoljones7455]

Yeah, I don't understand how those were considered sins, I hope it was just a joke, cause they were the best part of the movie.

[@dclong693]

I just have a hard time viewing him as some vigilante badass. Ffs, hes only 5'5" 115lbs soaking wet. Forgive me if i cant suspend my disbelief when the movie is trying to convince me that a ginger midget could intimidate anyone beyond 5th grade

[@shadowsa2b]

Also the cheesiest

[@herechickens1809]

@@dclong693 I don't think he was like that in the comics

[@roguishpaladin]

@@herechickens1809 No, he was. Here's a page from the prison scene in the graphic novel - you can see he's a bit smaller than the prison goons. His strength was never strength - it was skill, some gadgets which Night Owl provided, and, crucially, no inhibitions about the level of injury he will cause to the person he's fighting (and thus no instinct to hold back at all, much like a wild animal). Ultimately, though, he is a deconstruction of the vigilante badass just as the other heroes are deconstructions of other superhero archetypes - you're not supposed to walk away from the graphic novel thinking he is a badass, but rather that he is pitiable and mentally broken.

[@memomagic3480]

There is an actual smiley face on mars...

[@spacedinosaur8733]

Is it closer to the Kaolian Forest or the River Iss?

[@morid2079]

Well Quoting cinemasins here *clears throat* Sh*t

[@M.Babadook]

@@frankkennedy7618 That's a dumb strategy on their end, but also super convenient. Not a bad marketing decision. They can label all valid criticism as real and label all mistakes as "jokes". Here's the problem: When someone has to explain that cinemasins is joking then the joke immediately fails. Having to explain a joke over and over means the joke failed. Good examples of satire and parody media are The Onion and pretty much all Mel Brooks movies. They fit in commentary and criticism with jokes so well that the message isn't lost while remaining hilarious. If Mel Brooks had to come out and explain why his movies are funny, his movies would no longer be funny.

[@ilostmymojo6970]

@@M.Babadook while i wholeheartedly agree, i thought it was off-putting you compared this guy to Brooks

[@Scroolewse]

@@M.Babadook They can call it a joke all they want but the real reason they do this shit is really obvious. Audience engagement. Adding sins specifically to piss people off gets more people commenting, liking/disliking and sharing. Then when people complain about said inaccuracies they can go "haha stupid nerd is mad", and they're right. You are a stupid, mad nerd. Another example of this in this video is when he added a sin for the "You're locked in here with me!" line. It's one of the most badass lines in cinema history, we know it, they know it and we know they know it, but they add a sin for it anyway to make nerds mad.

[@HopeyDiamond]

"No movie is without Sin" "Sins do not make a bad movie"

[@irmathesperma8548]

exactly

[@Animeality]

+Hopey Olguin "People watch Cinema Sins and if its a movie they don't admire, the video's fine. When it's Batman or V For Vendetta, suddenly, Cinema Sins is terrible at pointing out plot holes and we must passive-aggressively remind them that they aren't evaluating movies with comedic precision, they're harshly criticizing them."

[@michamus]

+Animeality Plot holes are pretty rare. I don't think I've seen a Cinema Sins yet that points one out.

[@VeryPeeved]

+Animeality that's because most people don't care enough to think the sins through if they don't like the movie. thus the occasional poorly structured sins in each video go unnoticed. this is basic psychology, just like your statement is an attempt to make yourself feel intellectually superior by being condescending towards people you and many others view as inferior. like what i'm doing right now, with a few differences of exaction.

[@Animeality]

joe bob Oh god, you're one of those.

[@mookly1056]

"what is he even doing right now and why can't he just put pants on to do it?" that about sums up dr manhattan's entire character arc

[@nighttrain1236]

He's a situational nudist.

[@nomadbadass-gv9ki]

He couldn’t give a shit about human standards

[@lusoverse8710]

He looks even grosser in that fucking thong though..

[@yderga8707]

Tbf if you turned into an ethereal God overnight would *you* wear pants?

[@erickrohne6279]

He could literally make pants out of thin air at any moment but allan moore was trying to prove a point about superman being stupid i guess

[@yoursonisold8743]

No sin removed for the scene where Rorschach litterally stared Dr. Manhatten in the face and told him to kill him if he wants to go through with his plan?

[@mc1013]

Average scene...

[@yoursonisold8743]

CoCo edward Pfff. Someone's trying too hard to sound cool. In context that's a pretty epic scene.

[@DakStoSha]

+Yourson Isold It definitely was in the comics.

[@yoursonisold8743]

DakStoSha Indeed. The movie also pulled it off, although I can see why it would be more powerful for people who read the Graphic Novel. Maybe I am biased because of that lol

[@somed214]

+Yourson Isold Why should a sin be removed for a scene that was about a hundred times better in the original source material? Tacking Nite Owl onto the scene so he could scream "NOOOOOOO" should have earned at least five sins.

[@Ultramagnetic808]

Cinema Sin's sins: That WAS Leonard Cohen singing. There actually IS a formation on Mars in the shape of a smiley face like that, that's why Moore used it. :P

[@Vincent_Beers]

Sins are jokes, they went over your head

[@Ultramagnetic808]

@@Vincent_Beers No they aren't. They're criticisms that they deliver in a joking way. Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I catch it.

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Ellis D Trails some sins are jokes/sarcasm, and some people can deliver sarcasm very subtly if they want.

[@benjaminfenasse1963]

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Some people can interpret everything they hear as sarcasms, that doesn't change the fact it's not sarcasm

[@mr.stuffdoer8483]

Benjamin Fenasse Unless it is, which a lot of sins and wins can be.

[@Muffin_Pack]

6:46 "What made this door close?" oh I don't know, the time-lock that was shown right before he entered maybe.

[@marccolten9801]

They packed up and left a machine with a countdown timer running? Never made sense.

[@jamesfair9751]

Didn’t see any time lock before he went in. I saw one after he was inside and the door done closed but not right before he entered.

[@LadyOnikara]

@@marccolten9801 And didn't wedge the door open with a chair before going in the room.

[@marccolten9801]

@@LadyOnikara Wedge the door open? But it was just an atomic death machine with no off switch. What could possibly go wrong?

[@LucianCorrvinus]

See, I would have gone with poor Goverment planning and short cuts...

[@mrbillyt]

How can you not take off at least 5 sins for the opening credits? It is glorious and a piece of art in itself.

[@creme8338]

true story dude

[@thepolishcow9050]

Because this is cinema sins, where logic is thrown out the window in favor of sinning everything. Most of the sins are either pointless nitpicks or demonstrate complete lack of common sense.

[@c0zyD]

@@thepolishcow9050hardly. Mosr sins were right

[@gonzesse1437]

"His blue dong is a war crime" I died HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[@duel4ever2012]

+Gonzesse Pretty sure you didn't die.

[@reaperofzombies9698]

+Gonzesse so. went to see this movie in theatre with my dad. we both wish they had had a blue penis warning before we bought the tickets

[@RD19902010]

+Reaper OfZombies why are people so uncomfortable with penisses? I find female nudity in movies far weirder to watch, as it is mostly placed to be sexually arousing....

[@BartHartful]

+RD19902010 No shit, Shirlock...

[@Werewolf914]

Why would you rather see penisi over boobs +RD19902010? I'm guessing your favorite movie is Brüno.

[@braxtonmcalpin909]

As much as I love this video and CinemaSins in general, I'm not sure I can condone any situation in which "All Along the Watchtower", or any Hendrix song for that matter, gets sinned, regardless of the circumstances.

[@retrosquadchannel2.050]

It's Hendrix's cover of Bob Dylan's song.

[@saintvanu403]

@@retrosquadchannel2.050 Bob Dylan admitted Hendrix did it better tho

[@bent3736]

It was the usage of the song in a particular situation that was sinful, not the song itself. Based on the history of how the song has been used in film, it was an unoriginal, uninspired choice and it cheapened the moment.

[@Mystic-Midnight]

@@bent3736 To be fair it was directly quoted in the comic from the 80s because it fit the scene so well in the comics.

[@superbikeaborad]

This film is a fucking masterpiece and I will hear no different. I feel lucky to have lived when it was released. Truly amazing.

[@li-limandragon9287]

+Pabla Digital It's okay

[@PulluPdotClub]

+Pabla Digital Watched the ultimate cut was 3 hours 40 minutes of greatness.

[@kevins8260]

+Pabla Digital agreed. I still love CinemaSins though.....won't hold it against them.

[@zackathlon]

+Benjamin Solo This movie is literally 10 better than every marvel movie made

[@zackathlon]

This film was great. Your opinion is your own only and doesn't effect the quality of the film at all. Its also wrong, get over it ;)

[@ThomasFoxTV]

The opening credits scene was one of the best parts of the movie? Am I the only one that thinks this?

[@stopmotionmaniac8237]

hal rudnick does

[@spacegandhi7815]

Yes, the opening credits are awesome, I feel alone in liking this movie despite falling apart (imo) after Manhattan returns

[@samuele2806]

I also do

[@kudacg1389]

yeah I thought so too

[@picklerick3553]

I agree, this is one of my favorite movies of all time. Great storyline Great actors Great soundtracks Great cinematography Great movie PERIOD

[@Christopher_Gibbons]

Just for trivia's sake the Gotham Opera House is a real place that used to be in Manhattan. My father was a patron, which is ironic because his middle name was Wayne.

[@mikeb.379]

That's perfect xD Just make sure he doesn't leave out the back at night,

[@battleostrich9144]

**coincidental! :)

[@demerzel3798]

That isn't ironic, that's coincidental

[@greymajickjedi]

Also ironic: you having the last name Gibbons and commenting on a Watchmen video.

[@ulyssesmacargen2388]

Unfortunately Gotham was based on Pittsburgh

[@reeseculbertson3495]

You know what would be great? A live sinning of an entire film. No commentary... Just *ding* scattered throughout the movie. It's not like I don't already hear it in my head when watching movies alone...

[@purplepoppy07]

"This was one of the worst covers of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah I've ever heard in my life." I love you guys.

[@JohnnyKronaz]

+purplepoppy07 Look at "All Along the Watchtower" -- the original isn't always the best.

[@purplepoppy07]

NoRegretsForOurYouth I think they were making fun of people who only know the Buckley version (and other covers) that are shocked when they hear the original.

[@AcherontiaStyx]

I don't understand, a lot of sins you pointed out were just references and such, most of these aren't even sins

[@dmoneyswagg64]

Yeah this channel because shit.

[@jbodeanmusic]

he's reaching

[@SFxTAGG3]

+someone else You must be new to his videos, then lol.

[@Oly1y]

He's changed his ways. instead of focusing on actual sins, he takes it less seriously and just does comedic sins. if you want to see videos that can be taken mostly seriously, you should watch some of his older ones, back when he did it for the actual movie sins.

[@greenmann1217]

+Oly1y This is just beyond dumb though at this point. It's not funny, it's not even clever. If that's where he wants to take the channel, that's his perogative, but it's sad to see a channel that deftly blended comedy, a love for cinema, and humorous nitpicking together, go this far away from anything funny.

[@graphospasm5394]

"The same Vietnam war,when does the timeline split?" Id say when a blue nuke god killed his way through Vietnam would not be the same as our Vietnam war,but maybe I just dont remember history

[@dpsamu2000]

I don't think Dr Manhattan would have made that much of a difference. Not much different about a jolly blue giant exploding people and a bunch of jolly green giants exploding people.

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

dpsamu2000 “not much of a difference”? So an indestructible “god” with the ability to manipulate matter to whatever he wishes, and you say the a Vietnam War wouldn’t have changed? That’s just my thought though.

[@dpsamu2000]

@@BIGD-cc7ru Manupulate matter to destroy everything that can be seen? That's what our jolly green giants did. Seek, and destroy. Manhattan said he could only see what he experienced. He wasn't omnicient. So he couldn't see all the VC to kill them all. Could only kill the ones he saw. But the war of attrition that we fought, and that Manhattan fought didn't win it for us, and I would say that wouldn't have won it for him. That's not the strategy that won it for the VC. It was territorial ocupation that won it for them. Very simple strategy. The US kills some VC, and the VC kill some nearby villiagers. So the villiagers hate, or pretend they hate, the US because the US brings the VC retaliation. Even when many like the US they can't say so. They would be the first ones pointed out by the rest of the villiagers to save their lives. "He likes the US. He said so." So everybody has to say how they hate the US. How would the US know any different? Empathetically the US could know people don't like people who come in and kill, and mutilate them, and their kids. But it was clearly hard for the US to dredge up empathy in those times.

[@BIGD-cc7ru]

dpsamu2000 I see your point, but I think he would have made a little bit of a difference, but I understand😎

[@andallya]

I went to an American public school, so I cannot rule out the possibility that it happened just like that.

[@Dalt1n999]

99 Luftballons is a song about the Cold War and the fear of an eventual nuclear apocalypse, the Watchmen universe still has the Cold War and the fear of an eventual nuclear apocalypse, going so far as having the whole story being set around this scenario, so 99 Luftballons still existing in that universe is not weird at all

[@jesusblas5853]

no sin added for specter using heels when entering the prison, and having shoes when fighting the prisoners?

[@Dethclaus]

Atleast she didn't outrun a TRex.

[@victormanyeruke9997]

In the book,her lack of skill in fighting because of her gear is a massive plot point,but Snyder didn't care

[@cannibalbunnygirl]

+Papa Flash when? been a bit since I read it but I've forgotten that

[@kevo598]

If anything her latex suit would be more flexible than any ordinary clothing.

[@jesusblas5853]

not sure about that. she even said on an interview that the costume she used felt like wearing a rubber band.

[@michaelmartin8337]

You never go full stormtrooper. 8-) Also Rorschach's set up was in progress when he went to Moloch's. Morgan was the Comedian's middle name. Blake was the Comedian's last name. Remove 2 sins.

[@kalvinhobbes5879]

The point is the movie doesn't properly explain many things. The comic was amazing but the movie was for the people who knew the story.

[@josephroszell]

How did Rorschach get set up? I mean ozy knew they were coming sure but how did he set up Rorschach ? Like getting Dr mtard to blow him up? Or am I missing something?

[@kalvinhobbes5879]

+joseph roszell he's talking about the apartment scene where rorschach is caught by the cops. Ozy frames him for murlok's murder

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

+joseph roszell Either a random hitman hired by Ozzi or Ozzi himself killed Moloch, and (in the book) the police got a random tip

[@chasemerritt1944]

Remove another 10 sins because they used the ORIGINAL Cohen hallelujah and you didn't fucking recognize it, or you've never heard the original in which case you have no right to say what is and isn't a good cover.

[@BIastwave.]

You should remove sin #11. Yes, Gotham exists in this universe, but Batman is only a comic book character. The scene shows Nite Owl saving Bruce Wayne's parents. No dead parents=no batman

[@albertschoise8091]

Go Cardinals yeah and think about this is new york fictional?

[@TheRamiel001]

Holy crap... I didn't even catch that!

[@DaddyShrak]

Go Cardinals Oh that's cool I didn't catch Nite Owl I saving Martha and Thomas thanks that's a Easter egg I didn't catch

[@LexHansenGuitar]

>Batman is only a comic book character >The scene shows Batman I don't think these two can be true at the same time

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Ironically, Nite Owl is like a Discount Batman. I think that's the joke, Nite Owl is the Batman here because Bruce never became Batman.

[@kaitlynrobbins5129]

A good 50% of these are included in the movie on purpose so

[@joelrichardson5139]

Right? He sins Manhattan for walking into the trap, despite knowing that it was a clone smh

[@Chief_Bill]

Ikr and it's not like they are bad either

[@thehavocmiranda]

Dude, the guy who made the video just didn't understood the movie.

[@Chupacvabra]

These lists are not always assembled by the most intelligent people. They are done by people that need to do 6 of these a week to get their 300$ cheque...

[@thewanderingassassinlk3136]

Just because their on purpose doesn’t mean it’s not sinful that’s like saying i cheated on my wife on purpose so it’s not sinful.

[@adamfernandes4312]

There actually is a smiley face on Mars. It's called the Galle Crater.

[@WindsurferNr1]

The cinemasins guys said that they were aware of that, and that this sin is just there as a joke. Which is a justification i don't get. Like a child trying to do a cool skateboard trick, and then faceplanting on the curb. Doesn't matter if its intentional; it's still dumb

[@Cuythulu]

14:45 Jeremy doesn´t know there is actually a smiley face on Mars! Ding!

[@hakand.7246]

I don't understand. Why did you sin manhattan watching comedian kill that pregnant woman? They literally tell that dr. manhattan watched it because he doesn't care one scene later.

[@irllcd13]

Because they want to have it both ways. They have Manhattan later say "Ok, human life matters after all. I'm back," but they also have him be an emotionless douchebag. It's bad writing. Do one or the other, you can't do both. And his shocked look means he obviously does care. If he didn't care then he wouldn't have said anything or reacted at all.

[@justjeffrson489]

@One Thou Wou, not caring doesn't explain why he didn't do anything to stop comedian from shooting that woman. I don't care about strangers, but if I see a person in an obviously fucked up situation and I had the power to intervene, I would.

[@angelicreaper6061]

@@justjeffrson489 because that scene showed that he was growing further fromhumanity. Until the end when he was shown how life can be worth it. Thus letting him take the blame for all the deaths

[@TreiberSeptim]

Just Jeffrson that was the point. To him it’d be like a cat killing a mouse. He doesn’t care. That’s literally the point of the scene. He later even says that if the entire earth goes up in flame the universe doesn’t care. He doesn’t care. Up until laurie made him realize the significance of human life.

[@nickwiley9647]

@One Thou Wou my problem is why would he complain to the comedian at all if he didn't care,he seemed mildly upset.

[@akufromthefuture7159]

I truly LOVED this film. Aside from the removal of the psychic squid "alien" and the pirate side story, it is STILL the closest to the source material superhero film ive ever seen. Idc if it was 6 hours long, i love it

[@Artrysa]

Wait, it is? I heard the original creator hated it with a passion.

[@annalieff-saxby568]

@@Artrysa In places pages from the graphic novel have been used almost as story boards for the film. Moreover, a lot of the dialogue is word-for-word. I have both the novel and the film: different but equal imo.

[@frankthepug9242]

The Ultimate Cut has the pirate story, and you can also watch it on its own.

[@nathanielrussell7207]

@@hertog3094I don’t know if that’s a failing on Moore’s part, though. I definitely agree that this one of the most faithful adaptations I’ve seen, but if they had included everything from the graphic novel, this could’ve easily been 8 hours of film. You lose a lot of nuance when translating to the screen, but I still think it’s fantastic. The ultimate director’s cut is nearly 4 hours long, and it still isn’t quite enough to cover all of the ground.

[@dogewood5499]

​@@Artrysa the original creator hates everything with a passion including his own work and his fans to be fair.

[@Jallandhara]

Possibly the most tryhard sins count to date.

[@vellsace3556]

Possibly

[@Zagardal]

+Riley Freeman there's a lot wrong with the movie, but it's mainly related to the adaptation itself. Anyway, it's a pretty decent film.

[@sfdko3291]

+Grand Crusader Dark Knight and Toy Story.

[@MforMovesets]

+Grand Crusader Eh... most Sins are tryhard atm. I guess he's out of ideas but still wants his money.

[@AJ-kj1go]

+Riley Freeman The movie almost universally regarded as "meh", has probably earned these sins

[@dankwarmouse6248]

Really? You didn't remove a sin for, "None of you understand. I'm not stuck in here with you. You're stuck in here with me."? That's one of the greatest Rorshach moments in the movie and therefore one of the greatest superhero moments ever.

[@K0sm1cKid]

+DankWarMouse So good. Every few months I have to look up that scene and just bask in its awesomeness haha

[@ElliotReports]

Sin No. 11 is actually trying to show the Wayne family coming out of the theatre after Bruce gets scared of the show, but the superhero stops the robber before he kills Bruce's parents. So, this is a universe where Batman never exists. Really clever stuff, I think. I'm not sure if he was adding that sin "Ironically" or whatever.

[@bjw4859]

"You're locked in here with me !", best line ever, all sins removed.

[@comsci2491]

Still one of the best superhero movie of all time!

[@davishkarsookdaw4299]

Agreed

[@Darfail]

+comsci2491 ...of all time!

[@Razzy1312]

+comsci2491 Agreed. Mainly because it doesn't feel like a superhero movie in theme and tone.

[@Darfail]

seriously, this movie explores several themes relating to what we are as humans in original and thoughtful ways. it's not like ''avengers'' where everything is first-level fluff - which is also ok.

[@soxar64]

+Razzy1312 So it's like saying a certain pizza is the best pizza of all time mainly because it doesn't feel like pizza. Then why are you eating pizza in the first place?

[@sansventura7199]

You know he loved this movie He just went full nitpick mode in order to find faults

[@theliveing]

Denial?

[@barbaro267]

+Ventura Gomer If it was a good movie, forcing for him to nitpick, it wouldn't have been over 180 sins, resulting in a near 20 minute video. If you look at the videos he's done that were really good films that he enjoyed, you'd find that he didn't find as many things to nitpick at than other films. This movie has obvious problems that didn't need nitpicking, and not a lot of people even liked this film.

[@jenkind1]

He gave 5 sins for the smiley face on mars, which is a real thing

[@sansventura7199]

+jenkind1 Jesus Christ people.... And you two at the top, you can not tell me that a lot of those are nitpicks

[@Lameboy7]

You must be new here.

[@alphacause]

I thought that Watchmen was such an underrated film. From a visual standpoint, it was stunning. The opening credits scene was so artfully done, that if the Oscars had a category called "Best Opening Credits", it would have won it.

[@BlumenCT]

+Drake Santiago Yeah but you're also describing most Snyder films when you say that stuff. The rest of it was pretty lackluster; the pacing could have been better and even though it was really nice as a period piece it locks any non-readers out of what the fuck is going on.

[@dogewood5499]

​@@BlumenCT yeah, but, that's like, your opinion, man...

[@kodrod17]

@@dogewood5499retard comment

[@bestintheworld4346]

I like these videos but, I mean, half of these arent even sins. They're just like...observations you made. I guess that's how all of them are but, kinda outrageous.

[@bababooey5211]

that's pretty much how every cinema sins video is

[@ejjk-11]

I would say he's just nitpicking but come on, I don't really like the vids but it's just their way to entertain people

[@Suja_Varghese]

@@ejjk-11 , Who finds this entertaining?

[@Phearize]

its called nitpicking man

[@Suja_Varghese]

@@Phearize , Okay. But are random observations nitpicking? Still, it's not funny. I have no idea who finds this funny. I found their Infinity War video slightly funny but nothing else.

[@megahayder123]

This is honestly one of the most underrated movies of all time in my opinion

[@SphinX504]

Yes.

[@lasarousi]

everyone I know that knows about comics says this movie is the best comic movie, hardly underrated.

[@megahayder123]

lasarousi Fair enough but hardly anyone has seen it from people I know only a few and it got pretty average reviews

[@lasarousi]

Hayder Shafi you need better friends and a better source for ratings.

[@MegaSilverBlood]

this movie proves people dont know what they want, when people say "why cant they just take the comic book and put it on screen?!!" , well, this is easily 90% like the graphic novel, I have found in this new day and age, that whats trending and popular, is usually not the best thing. If you dont like Watchmen thats fine, but you cannot say that this movie and the people involved in it didnt have the balls to pull this off, this movie is a rare and unique achievement and better than any of the current Marvel or DC stuff.

[@winstonelam5484]

That is literally the original version of Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah”

[@cillyhoney1892]

Not the original version, it was a recording made later in Leonard's life when his voice had turned to a gravelly baritone. He started out as a tenor. Cigarettes will ruin your vocal cords kids!

[@spookyscarytruestories]

@@cillyhoney1892 That is 100% the 1984 studio recording of Hallelujah. Watch the 1984 music video, it's the exact same.

[@cillyhoney1892]

@@spookyscarytruestories well I guess he's voice had turned into gravel by then. In the 60's and 70's Cohen's voice was a high tenor. It changed to a gravelly baritone as he aged.

[@annalucy89]

It actually is! I didn't know that, then again I've really only listened to Jeff Buckley's version. Leonard's version sucks!

[@Skopji]

I think that's the joke

[@wuzzen97]

Look, I get that most of the "sins" are jokes and not real critizisms of the movie, but I still think you have a lot of bullshit in this video. Like, you added a sin for Doctor Manhattan not stopping the bullet that killed the pregnant woman, like it was an error in the story. It's actually an important scene, highlighting how Doctor Manhattan is loosing his humanity - as the Comedian pointed out right after that.

[@smoog]

MrSchwabbl Also the 'sins' about Manhattan being naked in some scenes but not in others. It's explicitly pointed out that he wears less and less as the years go on until he's completely naked: another sign of his growing detachment from society and humanity.

[@JohnDoe-mk3ch]

So why does he maintain a human form at all? Surely his magic blue energy could create whatever form he needed at the time.

[@warrensmith792]

smoog when Manhattan doesn't understand his Manhattanness... sin!

[@mbp7060]

The closest he was ever going to get to losing his humanity is ending up being a penis with legs, arms and a face which actually makes him even more human.

[@ignisimber2818]

John Doe because he used to be human

[@mf_doog772]

14:37 you really gave a sin for THAT? THAT IS A REAL SMILEY FACE ON MARS I wish I was making this shit up

[@greymajickjedi]

i can't believe you didn't REMOVE sins for Rorschach's epic prison cafeteria ass kicking and the scenes with Hendrix playing. Also, you should have pointed out that the man telling the woman "I was wrong" makes this film legally a chick flick.

[@julio5348]

+greymajickjedi Just an FYI… A movie where one of the main heroes tries to rape a woman, does not qualify as a chick flick, at least not legally. (whatever that means?)

[@liamp.5487]

@@julio5348 It's a joke, move on.

[@julio5348]

@@liamp.5487 Well, not everyone thinks rape is a laughing matter, that is except for you it might seem.

[@liamp.5487]

@@julio5348 I don't think rape is a laughing matter, and never claimed to. greymajickjedi made a joke, you somehow glossed over that bit to bring up an entirely different part of the movie. greymajickjedi talked about the prison escape scene, and then a man said he was wrong to a woman. The joke there being that in most action films men do not do that, and that is an action typically reserved for "chick-flics." The joke is that because this movie did so, he is saying that this movie is a "chick-flic," when in fact it is not. Relax with your allegations. Obviously rape is bad and is not a laughing matter, its just that neither of us are laughing about it and the only one to bring it up was you. I would like to again inform you that, its a joke, move on.

[@julio5348]

@@liamp.5487 I simply pointed out that a movie where one of the main protagonists rapes a woman without any repercussions can’t be considered a "chick-flic", unless of course your definition of a “chick-flic” is something else entirely.

[@staidenofanarchy]

No sins removed for the 'You're lock in here with me' line? That was some major badassery.

[@drsoe08]

"one of the worst covers of leonard cohen's hallelujah" wtf cinemasins, that was leonard cohen singing.

[@LoricSwift]

Let me know when you get the joke :)

[@Yoichiization]

it's been a week, and they haven't got the joke? Look up definition of a music album cover.

[@minecraftninja1622]

was that not the point?

[@zarquondam]

If it's a joke, why did he sin it?

[@Figue-]

Guys, Cohen's "Hallelujah" is about sex, so the joke is about that

[@daseinz]

Dr. MANHATTAN'S origin montage was absolutely brilliant, and I would not hear it otherwise

[@Morgancdogy]

that wasn't a cover of hallelujah, it was the original. the one done by Lonnard Cohen.

[@RebootedGaming]

This movie was epic. Better than most superhero movies.

[@zTxmi]

Funny.

[@RebootedGaming]

KnifingGame Wasn't a joke :)

[@miguelacosta5544]

+Rebooted superheroes save lives....these people were like characters from clue who actually have no clue. I'm sure the comic is good, but this film was terrible.

[@RebootedGaming]

miguel acosta I disagree. This movie showed "superheroes" who were actually grounded in reality. They had flaws. They weren't perfect. They chose the wrong things. Flawed characters are way more interesting than perfect superheroes. Don't get me wrong, I love the Marvel cinematic universe, but for instance Captain America? He has no real flaws. He's boring as a superhero, because we know he'll choose to do the right thing anyways.

[@miguelacosta5544]

Rebooted i also disagree, CA's flaw is that he is a goody boy scout, and he always wants a battle to happen. Anyways, yeah, the concept of this film is pretty cool, but i don't think it was done well. I did like the plot twist, but the whole process to get there was super boring.

[@finalfrancine]

Who else misses the 5-6 minute videos where he actually pointed out sins?

[@tigermitchem7852]

Now he just makes jokes and insults the films based on his personal opinion.

[@AC_Strange]

+jaaronus belzeskon Very true, I just hate the fact that his 'jokes' are now counted as sins...wtf?!

[@samenzwering]

+jaaronus belzeskon Yeah, the only sins in the video are his own jokes.

[@JustKelso1993]

I hated the 5 minute videos, way too rushed.

[@bluepolarbear]

That smiley face on mars actually exists. Shame it added 5 sins to the total on its own.

[@Vincent_Beers]

Sins are jokes, you missed the point

[@Lee-One]

Vincent Beers read the other comments dummy

[@Youllpayforthat]

@@Lee-One you mean all the other comments saying how they arent taking the sins as jokes?

[@CarloNassar]

@@Vincent_Beers Actually, that's hard to believe because it's not the point of CinemaSins themselves. Here's proof: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32ocqZ9pLVga6s

[@420mralucard]

It does but it's not as blatant as the movie version.

[@imaboutthiscar3818]

hold up did you say leonard cohen's hallelujah was the worst cover of leonard cohen's hallelujah you had ever heard

[@JohnDoe-mk3ch]

The same way that Bob Dylan singing the songs he wrote are almost always the worst recordings of those songs? Some people can't fucking sing.

[@davidwoodward9528]

Jacob It's pretty shabby. Cohen would have agreed.

[@theRealPlaidRabbit]

And he's not wrong.

[@gardenerofthegalaxy]

Definitely wasn't Leonard's best version of the song (I prefer "Live in London").

[@voilvelev6775]

That was the joke.

[@tinyj4520]

To be fair, if I was a super powered blue man, I'd never wear pants either.

[@vagabond28]

That wasn't a cover of "Hallelujah", it was Leonard Cohen. One of the rare examples of covers being better then the original.

[@toughderek]

+Robert Fleming I had to listen to his comment like three times just to figure out what the hell he was trying to say, then I realized he probably doesn't know what Leonard Cohen sounds like, so he assumed he was hearing a cover because he didn't like it.

[@itsjustdan3626]

14:40 why’d you sin the smiley face and one million other things but the smiley face is real and it’s on mars!!

[@Goldenkitten1]

Wait...did he give a sin for the BEST opening credits montage ever? I'm totally ok with him taking the piss out of my favorite movies but...seriously?

[@uncledonnie5700]

Yes, this is his job. How would you like it if I came to your job and told you what to do?

[@Goldenkitten1]

....that...doesn't even make sense in regards to what I originally said,

[@uncledonnie5700]

I said yes, in regards to your questioning "seriously??!!11??"

[@Goldenkitten1]

Uncle Donnie But...my question wasn't a yes or no question. It was questioning that he sinned what most people consider the best part of the video. That said, "This is his job and you aren't allowed to voice criticism" isn't a valid defense. If you put something out for the masses to view the masses can bring criticism of your work, it comes with the territory.

[@rorschachwatchescb]

Watchmen was a nigh-perfect adaption that came out at an imperfect time. It was a critique and deconstruction of a film genre that hadn't fully matured yet. Had Watchmen come out this year, I guarantee it would have been a critical and commercial success.

[@jackdullboy8723]

+Chrishaun Baker yeah, I read somewhere that chris nolan himself told zack that this movie came out waaaay too early for the casuals to understand

[@naclynerickii]

Nhat Lam NGUYEN I felt like it was bad timing. It came out around Mid/late Marchish and only worked with one holliday to make bank. I saw this movie a second time in theatres on Easter and hardly anyone went to see it.

[@master11050]

You're surprised he's "gonna take the blame just because she's crying" Guess Cinema Sin's writers have never been in a relationship.

[@angelicreaper6061]

Also it's not just because she was crying. They really didnt pay attetion to the movie. He does it because in the end. It all worked out snd he understood that. He was willing to take the blame to save humanity. The reason for that being was he saw the miracle of life. Saying that out of all odds. She was born and it was truly a miracle. Bringing back some of his humanity snd caring for it agian.

[@CheesecattleMacklesbee]

No man should ever do that, that is unhealthy as fuck. If men cry because they are wrong women will twist the knife 90% of the time. Find better women

[@spookson5679]

That's called manipulation, I'm not saying that in this scene it was, but I'm saying in general, you shouldn't take the blame for something you didn't believe was your fault because you made your girlfriend cry

[@yourfbiagent6483]

I think we already knew that

[@PurooRoy]

Simp!

[@Shiirow]

funny that you sin the alternate ending the movie has to the source material. makes me wonder what you would have thought about the _real_ ending.

[@Tribul936]

Ozymandias felt that the Comedian would want to die fighting, so he gave him a fight before finishing him off, is why he didn't just huck him out the window to begin with.

[@Arm77NLa]

This was a great movie! Agree?

[@yutubeblows88]

agreed!

[@redpad79]

+ALIEN DNA Defo

[@whalenation4945]

agree

[@ericsbuds]

+ALIEN DNA too gory for me and I never cared for superhero stories, but I will take your word it had a good story/screenplay!

[@AllThings_Gaming-c1m]

Yes, it's a genius movie too

[@z28camaro79]

Sin 11 is NOT a sin (1:02). The opening credits is showing us the alternate history in the Watchmen Universe. That's a Batman Easter egg. That is Martha and Thomas Wayne (to the left) leaving the theatre and that's Nite Owl who stops the mugger, Joe Chill, from robbing and killing them thus preventing the creation of Batman in the first place. By far my favorite easter egg of all time.

[@Uliburgh22]

Nope, first opening minute and I was already disappointed, it’s like he just forced those sins

[@thewanderingassassinlk3136]

Uli Quiroz sigh fan boys 🙄

[@PuteraNadim]

He did say "everything"

[@toddstone230]

You new here?

[@IloveGorgeousGeorge]

It's so fucking lazy.

[@Vincent_Beers]

You must be new here, sins are jokes

[@ObakeOnna]

You know, that smiley face crater on Mars actually exists. It's called "Galle". Maybe you knew this already and were sinning their use of said crater, but it's impossible to tell from the wording of the sin.

[@Sparton-sj6wd]

@ 7:20, that's not meant to be a power symbol. It's a hydrogen atom; as in the hydrogen atoms used to create the hydrogen bomb for the Manhattan Project. So it makes sense that it would be Dr. Manhattan's symbol.

[@ayushalder]

Sparton 25081 It also shows his simplicity

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

The cinema sins guy knows, Sparton; he was making a joke.

[@mohammadnatt4049]

@@maskedmarvyl4774 seems like he needs to up his humour then

[@artemiss7106]

Hydrogen bomb and Manhattan project? Do some research

[@MmsfrDyyysss]

he was joking dud

[@Ulrican414]

Am I the only one who thinks this channel became a parody of itself? With videos that go on for way too long, using way too many joke sins that are not funny, forced sins to add to the run-time, and recurring inside jokes? There are no actual valid criticisms on movies anymore, you can predict every sin before they come up, the videos are now just routine, they are just going thought the motions at this point.

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

agreed

[@marv1nperator]

+Ulrican414 At least it's not another trashy horror movie.

[@IIGuinnessII]

+Ulrican414 Thinking the same thing......

[@dddd703]

+Ulrican414 its not supposed to give actual criticism on the movie,its a comedy based on "sinning" movies

[@mrcheesemunch]

+Ulrican414 Yeah and before a lot of the sins seemed to have a point. I'm fine with "scene does not contain a lap dance" that's funny, traditional at this point even but...most of the "sins" in this video were explained in the movie. Before it used to be about breaking down what's wrong with a film not just mindlessly making jokes out of it. Why does Ozymandias have a super obvious password? Uh...because he was letting them find out. What reason would Dr. Manhattan have to go there if the other characters weren't uncovering it... Anyway yeah it feels like it's devolved quite a lot.

[@kingtide69]

6 years later and i still find it hilarious they gave 5 sins for a real smiley face on mars hahaha

[@0ion]

16:21 I don't care what Cinema Sins says, that's one of the best "Noooooo!!" in ANY movie. Plus the scene as a whole is amazing. They should have removed a sin in my opinion. lol

[@phoenixfdl]

it absolutely is one of the best, but it's that they sin everytime that they shouldn't ignore that one. it's a sin not for the movie more for the cleche

[@LyricPhil]

I wished he would've taken a sin back for Rorschach's death scene, because hot damn, that may be one of the greatest death scenes in cinematic history

[@JohnDoe-mk3ch]

You mean the scene where the misfit can't keep his mouth shut long enough to get back home and THEN attempt to spill his guts about what happened? Ideology over intelligence?

[@benrussell-gough1201]

@John Doe, Jon knew Wally well enough to know what he was going to do anyway. Wally just declined to demean himself with a foredoomed lie.

[@jannietfeld4717]

even in the face of armageddon, never compromise

[@itsraventm]

I mean, he just exploded. Lots of people explode in movies.

[@HollowPlane]

He knew that if he exposed what Ozzy did to the world, there was the very real possibility of a full-on nuclear war. Never compromising is his mindset, so he would have exposed the lie. While, at the same time, its his duty to protect people and exposing the secret would do the opposite. Conflicted, he practically begged Manhattan to kill him, to protect the lie he would expose.

[@Arbron]

0:22 - "The United States does not start fights." If Jeremy's laugh was ever warranted, it was here.

[@whisperingwind2]

Chrono Ryono for sure, they start tons of fights. And rarely finish them interestingly...

[@marcbraun5342]

Was wondering as well that there is no reaction to that, maybe it speaks for itself and isn't in need of any pointers or he's much more of a patriot than I imagined. :D

[@Daswhereimatt121]

0:07 “frewer” *sin sound effect plays*

[@twentywordsorlessYT]

Likely deliberate - there's an actor named Matt Frewer in the film.

[@ZombiWorkshop]

Not saying this film is untouchable, but there's Sooo many of these "sins" that are just the writer not understanding either the film, the character, or general cinematography. XD

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

+Lucan Monks Indeed, And Sinning Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" on the grounds that it was the worst version he'd heard was just embarrassing - given the fact that it was clearly Leonard Cohen himself, singing the original version! Many of the supposed "Sins" made me suspect that the reviewer wasn't very well acquainted with the film at all, as you say it appeared that he just didn't understand the stuff he was "sinning". As far as I am concerned there is an old Shakespearean quote that seems really apt here; the film is "more sinned against than sinning".

[@dave5194]

+Lucan Monks Agreed

[@L0LWTF1337]

+NoneOfYour Beeswax May I point out that he called Jimmy Hendrix' All along the watchtower "weird Vietnam movie anthem"? ... I unsubed after this sentence.

[@sylvesterstallon3]

+L0LWTF1337 and there is an actual smiley face crater on Mars. and 99 luftballoons is amazing

[@ZombiWorkshop]

It would be fine if he explained why 99 Luftballons couldn't exist, but there's nothing to say it shouldn't other than some strange belief that if ONE thing changes then everything changes. But there is still a war in this universe, so there's still the chance that a german group will be inspired to write an anti-war song called 99 Luftballons. Why not? :P

[@capsulecorps7417]

Why so much hate for this movie. I really like this movie

[@jackbaxter2223]

+LeBron James Actually, most people love it.

[@iovandrake]

+K IRA Actually, most people do not love it. Most are indifferent, a good amount dislike the movie, and a loud minority online backed up by some pandering critics love it. Is it awful? No. Does it have a lot of interesting qualities to it? Sure. Is it a masterpiece? No. Is it entertaining to everyone? No. Same goes for the original comic which is vastly overrated simply because its a grimdark deconstruction of the medium.

[@jackbaxter2223]

iovandrake I know far more people who absolutely love than I do who dislike it at all.

[@iovandrake]

K IRA I'm sorry that you don't know more people.

[@jackbaxter2223]

iovandrake I'm not. Clearly the large number of people that I know all have exquisite taste.

[@xCobraCommanderx]

You do realize there really is a giant smiley face on Mars in real life right? Its called the Galle Crater. CinemaSins add one sin to yourself.

[@nateiguess9482]

Cinema sins takes things out of context (Ding)

[@Crow_Smith]

Well it IS a satire channel

[@astrozombie2816]

When i first saw the movie i was impressed by how badass & convincing the actor playing the comedian was & wondering for years why he doesn't get bigger roles & is underrated but then finally twd happened & the rest is history

[@sdracklryeg]

I mean, Franklin Roosevelt probably would have got 5 terms If he hadn't died during his 4th.

[@Khanh1321]

Yeah

[@Grandleon]

The power of incumbency is well known in government. The suggestion that as a collective we are fickle flies in the face of reality.

[@gentblue]

+TJ Evers II I dunno. Would he be blamed for the Soviet invasion of Eastern Europe if he had survived? Though if he was not dying during Yalta, maybe Stalin wouldn't have gotten an even better deal than he got off Hitler (before Hitler turned on him) anyway?

[@jmoney6893]

He forgot Nixon ran in 1960, which would assumedly be one of those votes.

[@marccolten9801]

sdracklryeg But then the GOP passed an amendment so Democrats couldn't do that again, only to whine about it during the Reagan administration.

[@Fools_Requiem]

Watchmen was still a really great movie. The time jumping didn't confuse me at all.

[@bcajma12]

+Victim of Lag It didn't confuse me either, but I still found it. . . Odd. Sure, it wasn't a _bad_ film, certainly wasn't the best, but it tried hard to tell it's story. It's a cult film that fills a demand, not a grand cinematic accomplishment. Even I'd admit that V for Vendetta was a cult film and not something to hold up as infalliable, and I personally loved that film. Niche audiences means that there will always be someone to enjoy it as time goes on. That's the nature of such films, to appeal to specific audiences by doing something(s) differently than traditional media.

[@AkandaJenkins]

+B Arnold this right here, watchmen is no doubt not the best movie and neither is Evil Dead, but I still love both of those movies more than any movie out there

[@carrottop1107]

+B Arnold The entire point of those flashbacks being so disjointed is that Dr. Manhattan doesn't perceive time as we do. The movie is far from perfect, but a lot of these sins were things that seem like they have obvious explanations...

[@arrowbro]

+B Arnold The time jumping, especially during Dr. Manhattan's segment, is supposed to be a little bit of how he sees time. Everything happening all at once and not in any real order while still being in order. Confusing? Yes. That's part of the point.

[@bcajma12]

SwaggotTop Sorry, I meant odd as in how I felt the whole film felt "odd". It wasn't a direct remark about the flashbacks, though I should've clarified that to begin with. It should be noted that I also emphasized that I didn't think it was a bad film either. Just odd/strange/weird. As far as niche films / cult films go, that's par for the course with a lot of people.

[@aidanmagill6769]

I think you should understand what you're taking the piss out of before you start taking the piss. None of them (Dr Manhattan aside) have superpowers. Which means you missed a sin for Ozzymandias' superstrength in the opening scene. Although the comics hint that he has genetically engineered himself.

[@corvus2512]

Does the film make that clear though? I mean the blue guy is basically god and the mask guy has a moving mask, someone just watching would assume these guys are super heroes, i cant remember if the film ever actually states what powers/lack of powers the characters have. Also most people havent read the comic so it makes no difference what it suggests

[@shirubionicle]

The ink blots in his mask are designed to move with his face

[@PerthScienceClinic]

I don't recall anything in the movies about Ozymandias / Veight being genetically engineered, just that he was the peak of human perfection.

[@kcw8181]

you were struggling to find sins for this film

[@theliveing]

I doubt it..

[@Kyozou10no]

+theliveing I doubt you doubt it.

[@theliveing]

+Kyozou Tenno Your doubts are doubted. My doubt is undoubtedly my doubtless doubt... Submit to the truth..

[@Tvirus12]

That smiley face in Mars does exist in reality. you should subtract those 10 sins

[@jakebryant3445]

Wait it does? O.o

[@LightbulbSunStudios]

Yes, it does.

[@underthepale]

The "smiley face crater" does actually exist. It is known as Galle, and apparently was known by Gibbons and Moore when they wrote Watchmen A little research goes a long, long way.

[@josefinasanchezkoconos2890]

That is not a cover of Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah. It is Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah. Leonard Cohen singing his own song Hallelujah.

[@ricksmith3045]

It is also the worst cover of it.

[@yohance]

You guys are reaching hard for some of these sins. This movie didn't have that many sins.

[@angrytheclown801]

The reason the computer was so easy to hack was Ozzy wanted it to be. He put the password out in the open because these are his friends and he wanted them safe and out of the way of damage hoping they would join him. Several of these are easy to figure out.

[@spluad]

Still one of my favourite movies though

[@bobrocks79]

+Spluad Absolutely. I don't get the hate at all, especially when you get the ultimate cut with the Black Freighter story.

[@boiledelephant]

+bobrocks79 Oh my god, did they actually make the Tale of the Black Freighter in live action? That was one of my favourite things in the book

[@Zebcast]

If you like that would you like Stormwatchers?

[@superfluousdee6476]

+boiledelephant They animated it. It actually worked pretty well. Not as well as it did in the comics, but does anything work as well in movies as it does in comics?

[@christophergrabenhorst904]

Agreed. Absolutely loved it. To this day I don't get the hate.

[@adamvw48]

You didn’t TAKE OFF a sin for the amazing shot in the beginning where the army fires on the protesters

[@gottakeepemseparated]

"Superhero" The books and to an extent the movie go a long way to avoid the use of the word superhero, because they're not superheroes. Instead they're called masked vigilantes or costumed heroes (notice the lack of "super" there), and that's one of the main points of the narrative. I know sins can be a bit silly sometimes, but sinning a couple dudes dragging away another dude just because you mistook him for a superhero does not make sense, it just makes me think you didn't pay much attention to the actual narrative.

[@davidalexander3320]

Yeah Dr Manhattan is the only one with actual superpowers.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

@@davidalexander3320 Kinda. The rest may still be human, but with the cliche "most humanly possible speed, strength, endurance, intelligence, etc."

[@davidalexander3320]

@@princeofcupspoc9073 yeah most were "peak physical condition" like batman and many others. Definitely way above average but not to the level of "super." If I recall the movie made them stronger than the comics did. Especially in the fight between the comedian and oxymandias. Although that bullet catching thing might qualify as super.

[@linkofvev]

You didn't even remove a sin or two for the "I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me." line? Shame on you.

[@irllcd13]

Why should he? That was dumb. That line was pure tryhard.

[@guypierson5754]

@@irllcd13 Guess you never kicked anyone ass ever huh?

[@deadshot0908]

@@guypierson5754 that guy hates for some reason this movie, he is under like every coment who is saying something good about it and it never makes any sence

[@WilliamJakespeareProps]

still amazing though

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

William Jakespeare no. No it is not

[@alexisogbemudia5458]

Ryan Olivier yes. Yes it is

[@diegokaqui60]

Of course it was amazing......this may be the zack snyder peak of awesome

[@XenoTravis]

It definitely takes a required taste and a read or two of the comic to like it. Alan Moore definitely did some dmt during his comics

[@yeswhut1978]

Hack Snyder missed the point of the graphic novel.

[@meowcow21]

6:22 the idea of him just sending people home like some sort of time out instead of killing them is hilarious

[@carterf3585]

A very solid movie that gets a lot of undeserved hate. Very faithful to the excellent source material as well. That faithfulness is probably what accounts for a lot of the movie's pacing problems.

[@christophervilleda5388]

this movie was amazing but people prefer comic book movies with crappy stories and filled with jokes that just make you cringe

[@carterf3585]

Christopher Villeda I wouldn't call it amazing but I agree with you on the lazy comic book movies with cringe-worthy jokes. I just about gave myself a concussion facepalming in response to lame one liners in Age of Ultron.

[@christophervilleda5388]

I guess I found this movie amazing cus it's one of the few superhero movies I can watch without giving myself a concussion cus of the non stop facepalming haha

[@doicare1169]

+Christopher Villeda The Watchmen comics have quite some fans though. I'd say the movie's hate is because people who only like Marvel-like movies don't end up liking the style of Watchmen and Watchmen graphic novel fans are too damn nitpicking.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

@@christophervilleda5388 Marvel. Yeah, Marvel fans don't know what's good or not. As long as there's 'splosions.

[@librariviera4581]

Who watches the watchmen? WHO WATCHES THE WATCHMEN? *WHO* *WATCHES* *THE* *WATCHMEN*?

[@jb687827]

+Libra Riviera The Monitor?

[@librariviera4581]

Yes?

[@bakerdoze]

Criken watches the Watchmen.

[@cameronbreeze6918]

+Libra Riviera 101000 cinema sins viewers?

[@Zeredek]

+Libra Riviera CinemaSins watched the Watchmen in order to make this video so there you go

[@louisny]

That is not a cover of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. That's Leonard Cohen, singing his own song. You should feel bad for not knowing that.

[@valmarsiglia]

+Louis B Was just about to write to say the same thing! It's not a cover version, it's the original.

[@Ramen_Zombie]

12:40 He knows because Nite Owl 1 published his memoirs after retiring, thus revealing his identity, but the Knot Tops were stupid enough to think an old guy beat up a whole prison, so the sin still stands.

[@kkbaby30]

The concept still outweighs all the sins. Epic movie, but now I'll laugh a bit more through it's darkness. Thanks, CinemaSins!

[@kiyo6582]

The level of butthurt in these comments gives me life.

[@towelzz9873]

Same

[@broden5546]

why are people butthurt?

[@Schwartzbruder1]

+syfycomicbookvhsman lol this movie being one of the most faithful adaptations to a graphic novel that is referred to as "critically one of the best novels in the english language" adds loads more salt and a touch of lime.

[@ajjdgj6tmgedvnmtmek]

+Schwartzbruder1 Though what's critically the best stuff isn't always actually the best stuff for wide appeal. That's why Birdman (despite winning a ton of 2014's Oscars) didn't make a lot of money, and that's why Watchmen can be "critically one of the best novels in the english language" and have a large number of detractors. P.S. Ever tried to read Ulysses by James Joyce? It routinely comes out on top of best novel ever lists, but it's insanely hard to read and follow. The author just makes up words at times, uses Latin and Middle English, and will run on sentences for pages at a time.

[@ajjdgj6tmgedvnmtmek]

Hemlockable a sex scene in a magic fucking submarine, more like. I'm surprised they didn't sin that. Stupid lump has is a perfect aircraft with tiny engines, no visible fuel source, no heat creation, and no freaking explanation (though maybe they throw in a Dr Manhattan hand-wave in the graphic novel). With those engines, we could have had cheap to free space travel, and since I assume we still hit the Moon in 1969, even in the 1980s we'd be gaga for space. If Veigt could set up an orbiting space hotel and space tourism, he wouldn't even need to worry about the Cold War.

[@scrimpmster]

I just burst out laughing at "The United States does not start fights" lmao.

[@thehavocmiranda]

Why did you sin the opening credits? It's perfect. " This movie is alternate history, but this newspaper headline kind of meshes with regular history " WTF???

[@bluedonkey9963]

Yeah, it's the best part of the movie

[@sonoftheway3528]

2:52 FDR was elected for 4 terms and probably would've been elected for a 5th had he not died. Not far fetched at all.

[@karoljones7455]

Wrong. He was elected for three, died during his third.

[@Awestefeld6612]

@@karoljones7455 actually FDT dod dir three months into jos fourth term. It the reason Harry Truman replaced FDR"s 2nd VP. That dude was a Socialist and the establishment Democrats were scared of losing in 1944. Just like if Sanders ran against Trump.

[@karoljones7455]

@@Awestefeld6612 you're right. Sorry about that, didn't do my research.

[@Awestefeld6612]

@@karoljones7455 It's OK I didn't have all the fauntil I red an opinion piece from fox news discussing the parallels between 1944 and Joe Biden's VP choice.

[@noahsherwood2445]

Plus Nixon would likely rig more elections

[@enthusia492]

10:55 but... isn't that the Leonard Cohen version that they're playing?

[@DeathbyNoob15]

Nonononononono. This isn't a world where Gotham exists but Batman is just a comic; this is a world where Gotham exists and Batman is so famous they've made comics after him.

[@idkmybffjv]

Dang!

[@InBleak]

+Namhart Elkor I thought this was a world where the old Niteowl saved the Wayne family. That's the Gotham reference, the Batman poster was a an obvious calling. So this is a world where Batman has no need to exist. Which is pretty interesting. Look again to that scene, there are the Wayne (and perhaps Alfred) back there geting out from the theatre, while Nite Owl punches the burglar.

[@DeathbyNoob15]

***** I mean I was mostly joking but that's really interesting.

[@meowistforlife]

+Katzenberg never noticed that!

[@WrathOfHorus90]

+Katzenberg yup its supposed to be an easter egg, but cinema-tryhards wont notice Martha Wayne even has her pearl necklace on

[@madrid_seu]

11:08 "how is the moon so big?" hey Jeremy, have you ever heard about focal lengths?