Amongst my blades I have two freuds. One is a pro 24t and is superb, proving surprisingly clean cuts cross cutting as well as ripping and one is the 40t. No notable tear out on my table saw. You have to be careful when selecting freud blades as they all look alike but they have a baffling array of codes and there’s a big difference between them. Mine are the 15 degree positive rake angle thicker kerf table saw pro versions and slice like a knife through butter. There are thinner kerf mitre specific version, versions with atb, tcc, different coatings and higher quality carbide teeth such as the industrial coded versions like the p410 . Point is you can’t generalise about freud without knowing what you’re comparing. Even the relatively inexpensive freuds will likely last longer than the saxtons which don’t have as much tooth material and cant successfully be resharpened. Good cheap blades for sure but false economy unless you’re an infrequent user.
@CasualDIY Жыл бұрын
I think that's the general point, if you are a occasional user then the Saxton will be a good choice. However if use your saw on daily basis then Freud will be a far better investment 👍
@DappsJames3 жыл бұрын
Got a like for the zero clearance flippable work bench alone. Good work!
@BLMeredith872 жыл бұрын
You could actually hear how nicely and smoothly the Saxton was cutting the wood, I knew it'd be a nice result. Need one. :)
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately they are not too expensive either 👍
@mohsinrasul84503 ай бұрын
Thanks my guy... Will be ordering the saxton blade
@KrisuBudi2 жыл бұрын
No i mam także identyczną ukośnicę Tomku. Dzięki za podpowiedź. Dobry zakup. Teraz czas na zabudowę jej. Oczywiście posłużę się Twoim projektem. Przynajmniej tym co widzę. Keep it up👍🏼
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
Hehe dzieki i pozdrawiam 👍
@StrawbyteWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tomasz - A great video and very informative. I thought I would make a couple of comments. The Evolution Saw is designed with their blades in mind and has a different blade speed to other makes. The bore size is how they try and keep you to their own blades. You also showed examples of the tearout being worse further from the fence. I had this with my Evolution saw and I found this is due to slight play in the saw rails resulting in wobble as the blade is extended over the workpiece on mine - so might not have been a blade issue in the test.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
The tear out was actually near the fence side. I don't feel any play in the rails ( yet ). But if that would be the case all the blades would have the same tear out which is not the case. The Saxton gave almost perfect cut for example. The speed of the Evolution saws were concerning me to be honest - and that was holding me back on using different blades. But I have to say so far had no issues using other blades 😁👍
@Thesidingsworkshop4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY agree
@johngratton4674 жыл бұрын
Again, another quality informative video, as i've said I've used non OEM blades in mine with a reducing ring, not had any problems at all with them, however I'm now convinced and the next ones will be Saxton, I've used their blades in other tools and never been dissapointed, stay well bud
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Yes I'm surprised how good the Saxton blades are. Stay healthy and safe 😁👍
@johngratton4674 жыл бұрын
@Jim Hope I use Saxton blades in my Piranha saw which was rubbish with the OEM blades, the Saxton ones transformed it into the machine it should have been originally
@andrewwheeler69893 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I have just bought this saw and ordered the Saxton blade as I will be using it primarily for wood.
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@whomadethatsaltysoup3 жыл бұрын
As ever, excellent comparison between the various blade options. I have an Evolution mitre saw - it's in the loft - but I use the excellent Hikoki with a Freud 40t blade. I did, however, purchase the Saxton blade - again 40t - for the Evolution Rage S5 table saw. Well, it's night and day! And at the current price of only £16.99 with free delivery, it comes in at around half the price of the Evolution or Freud counterparts.
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the Saxton blades are really good
@Senorbarnez3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant comparison. Been scanning KZbin for a blade comparison where someone actually shows the results, not just talks about the theory. I ordered yesterday a Freud, and now a bit gutted! as I could have purchased a higher tooth count cheaper blade. Thank you for taking the trouble to purchase, document and show your results. Much appreciated.
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@PeteSimpson4 жыл бұрын
Firstly I would like to say thank you for creating a great informative video. I only use Saxton Blades in both my Mitre Saw and also Circular Saw. For the price you can't really beat them and they stay sharp for a long long long time. Saxton also has a range of professional blades (which are Yellow in colour), those blades only cost about 20%-25% more than their standard range of blades. Saxton also does blades for ripping long lengths of wood (less teeth).
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly, they do seem to be very good for what they cost👍
@darrylportelli4 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed with the stock combination blade of the rage 5 ... i cut plywood with VERY THIN veneers with no 0 clearance insert and had NO tearout whatsoever .... i thought replacing the blade would be the first thing i'd do when i got the saw - i'm not replacing it anytime soon ..... also crosscut some hard maple yesterday which is notorious for burning - gave me a clean cut with no burn marks whatsoever
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are fairly good mate. But there's a room for improvement 😉
@darrylportelli4 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY if you ever get a chance, try graphite tools blades ..... they are a polish company and their blades come with reducer rings .... tried their blade on my mitre saw and it was great
@flyboy26102 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the Evolution R185SMS+ saw, the 7-1/4" model with the laser. Just assembled it this morning, in fact. Still need to try it out. I bought it for cutting metal. For cutting wood I have a 10" Delta compound sliding miter saw. One complaint I have read about these saws it that you're locked into using Evolution blades due to the arbor size. While installing the blade I took the inner blade washer off. One side has a 20mm ring machined into it, while the other side has a 5/8" ring machined into it. So I can use a blade with either a 20mm arbor or a 5/8" arbor! 🙂 You may wish to remove the inner blade washer and see if it has two different diameters machined into it. Or maybe you touched on that and I missed it. In which case...... never mind.
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
Got few sets of reducing rings plus mostly I use the Saxton blades now with the Evo arbour size. I think the multi material Evo blades go bad quite quick if use use them mainly for cutting metal.
@Thesidingsworkshop4 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed mate iam at this moment contemplating the same thing with the same model of saw cheers buddy saves a lot of messing around for me. ... keep safe thomaz
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Glad I was able to help mate😁👍
@uk_bennny_uk47903 жыл бұрын
Going to be getting this saw for my birthday in 25 days... I will be buying your Saxon blades now too
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
So far the Saxton blades seem to be very good, specially when you consider the price tag. Well I wish you happy birthday now 👍😁
@creepycrawlything4 жыл бұрын
I use an inexpensive Saxton blade in a Dewalt 18v 165mm circular saw. Works really well: regards cut quality; and regards cutting depth and speed. It would seems Saxton gives good value for our spend.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes my thoughts are the same. Really good value for money
@briansworkshop014 жыл бұрын
Again Thomasz honest review and a great video thanks for sharing your time and remember#stay safe and make 🍺🍺👍👍👍
@alfrose98314 жыл бұрын
Another great, helpful video mate. Interesting results too. Saxton seem to have the edge ( see what I did there?) lol
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Lol good one mate. Yes they seem to be very good👍
@gregoriog19793 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the follow up video for these blades! keep on!
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly👍
@richarddicktaylor2194 жыл бұрын
I will be ordering a couple of Saxton blades. I love both my Evolution saws & it is counter intuitive from a brand loyalty perspective not to offer different blades
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
So far they worked great for me 😁👍
@Ssshhhhhh10664 жыл бұрын
Fantastic bud. Another great video. They def should be sponsoring you lol... I have the same table and mitre saw because if your videos. 👍👍👍
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Lol I wish 😂🤣 thanks for watching
@Ssshhhhhh10664 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY hahaha. Well they should. I bet you've got them lots or sales...😁😁😁
@Samurai99013 жыл бұрын
I usually use the saxton professional blade as default on my Evolution mitre saw. The multi material blade has hardly been used.
@aligooya85144 жыл бұрын
Saxton 80T is a monster on cross sections, I have it. But for longitudinal cuts look for something else
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Got the Freud blade, should do the job 😁👍
@woodsmithery83514 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I get awful blade marks inside cuts with the Evo multi blade but I always thought it was something I was doing wrong. I already have a spare Saxton so I think I'll get it fitted today. Good vid 👍
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
You can get the Saxton blades with 25.4mm bore so it will fit perfectly any Evolution saws
@jimaspinii75792 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video about the Evolution miter saw. In that video, his saw came w a reversible washer that the blade seats against. One side is for a 1” bore blade and the other side for a 5/8" bore. maybe Evolution has updated their saws w these?
@flyboy26102 жыл бұрын
On my Evolution R185SMS+ saw, one side of the inner blade washer has a 20mm ring machined into it, and the other side has a 5/8" ring machined into it. So you can use blades with either a 20mm or a 5/8" arbor hole.
@EquilibriaHealth4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have the Freud 80t and it is performing great. I mainly. Use oak and there is a very little tear out if at all depending upon the grain orientation. The reduction ring def isn’t an issue. I also had some concerned about it but unfounded as the flange directly on the blade is what keeps the blade in place and from slipping. The reduction ring is only to pick up the slack but force bearing. Good to know about Saxton. Thanks.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes the more I used it it came to me as well that there is no major issues with the reducing rings. And I found the Saxton blades to be very good.
@stephenbell30114 жыл бұрын
Top video Tomasz I have the Saxton blades in my evolution table and mitre saws and I have had no probs they cut really clean. Looking forward to your next vid keep up the good work
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. I think it may be the zero clearance plate for the Rage 5s. Could be a good one 😁
@stephenbell30114 жыл бұрын
Sound I was thinking about making one but I’ll wait to see your creation take care stay safe thanks again
@PhilHarmonicus2 жыл бұрын
You're costing me a fortune! (Another great video, though)
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
😅👍 glad that you like it 👍
@shaundell46302 жыл бұрын
I just bought the 210mm evolution mitre saw. First problem I've noticed is that a 30mm bore blade with ring spacer does not work.
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
I had that with an Abracs blade and reducing ring. Bought myself reducing rings from Bosch and had no issues since
@shaundell46302 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY Thank you for the reply and informative videos.
@Quest2chill4 жыл бұрын
How did the blade kerf sizes compare?
@und3rgroundman8653 жыл бұрын
Can the Freud blades be used to cut cigars?
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
You can even cut sausages with it 🤣
@trevoreden50883 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you ever had an issue with safety blade guard sticking on the Evolution Rage S3. safety Guard retracts ok, but fails to fall back in to place.
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
No, I had no issues like that. Maybe the mechanism is dirty or securing bolts done up too hard.
@trevoreden50883 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY Thanks for your quick reply . Must admit thought the same, I have tried giving a full clean where I can reach and lubricated any visible moving parts. Wil try to contact Evolution, think it may need stripping down to access the safety guard mechanism.
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
The customer service is usually quite good so I hope they will help you accordingly 👍
@constantincornelcraciunesc43852 жыл бұрын
Hi, does the blade cut better if it has more teeth?
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
With higher amount of teeth the blade will give nice results, however it will be less suitable for rip cuts. Usually you out blades with more teeth in mitre saws as they do cross cuts. This will give finer results.
@roadwarrior85602 жыл бұрын
I have just bought the same saw, can I use a 250mm freud 45 tooth wood blade I have from an old mitre saw. the bore is 30mm, where can I buy the reducing ring? thanks, subbed.
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
Yes it should be just fine. Just search on Amazon for reducing rings 25.4mm from Bosch. I got them and they fit perfectly 👍 Welcome aboard 👍
@roadwarrior85602 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY Thanks, just bought it, watched your other video on it, great channel, lots to learn. thanks.
@niveusjack3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot for the comparison mate! can you tell me what's the verdict almost a year of usage? is the saxton still performing that well comparing to freud?
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Hi and thank you. Unfortunately I had to pack my workshop in November last year and I will be up and running in middle 9f June this year so the blades did not had enough running time for me to give final judgments.
@richardrobinson76454 жыл бұрын
any tips on how to make dust collection more effective using a standard extractor? was it still spitting out dust in every which direction with each saw blade used?
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes it made no difference witch blade was on. The dust extraction upgrade is in my pipeline but not sure when it will surface as a video yet🤔
@barrylarkin33364 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomaz Great video, Do you know if the Freud 260mm blade will fit this saw as I have seen them keenly priced.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Not sure, the original is 255mm. Not sure if there is enough clearance.
@thepeginator25564 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched this video because I have a Metabo mitre saw, but seemed like the best place to ask. In your opinion, are you better off with 3 cheap blades? Say a course, medium and fine.. or one nice (e.g. frued) blade. A Freud 34t is about £25-30, a 3 pack of cheap blades is about the same. I’m guessing the frued is probably a better option, they’re flip-able for double the life, it’ll probably outlast the 3 cheap blades and give a better cut I’m guessing.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
If you can get the Freud for around £25-£30 then I would go for that. I all depends what are the budget blades. If they are Saxton then I would give them a go.
@thepeginator25564 жыл бұрын
Casual DIY Tookpak from toolstation in this case. Haven’t actually fitted them but might return them and get a Freud I think. These are actually for my circular saw, I’ve got the same ones for my mitre saw and they’re completely fine, more than adequate for a home user, probably have to be using them a lot to wear them out anytime soon. My jigsaw blades are from Saxton and they seem pretty good. You recommend the saw blades then?
@sebna3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tomasz, I was wondering if you could let me know who the blades hold up after a year of usage. Saxton vs Freud Pro? Thanks
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Hi, due to a move between countries I have not been using my saw at all. But I'm back in business now. Although I'll give another few months before I give my judgment. Sorry I could not provide any more info at this point
@sebna3 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY have you moved back to Poland for good?
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
@@sebna yes for good but you never know what the future holds 🤔
@barrygraham67954 жыл бұрын
I have contacted Evolution regarding using Saxton Blades in the R255SMS-DB and they say that due to the low revolutions of this saw (2500rpm no-load speed) that only their blades will work. Other blades may damage the saw and will invalidate the warranty. What does everyone think about this? I need a 60T+ blade for cutting composite material decking boards and Evolution don't do them.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes I heard that as well. Been using the Saxton blade for a while and so far all is good.
@barrygraham67954 жыл бұрын
@@CasualDIY Saxton believe it's just a ploy by Evolution to sell more of their own blades. I tend to agree. Can't see how the blade can possibly damage the saw.
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Same mate.
@amorton16602 жыл бұрын
Can you use the same blade in both the mitre and table saws ?
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
I do, yes👍
@chrisedmonds40052 жыл бұрын
So a mitre saw blade is a circular saw blade? When purchasing Saxton blades they only ever mention circular saw.
@CasualDIY2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisedmonds4005 they are all circular blades...🤔🤣
@norbertesa13494 жыл бұрын
Polish?
@CasualDIY4 жыл бұрын
Yes I am 😁👍
@bef581154 жыл бұрын
Just convinced me to order some saxton blades, I thank you my wallet doesn’t!