Evolution of High Speed Ring in Gran Turismo (1997 - 2022 / GT1 - GT7)

[@Paragleiber]

Also check out my videos for the other tracks here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXOqYoSDq6d4fbc (Trial Mountain) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5-4l4d7p9R_hbc (Deep Forest) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIulfmmlratjjKc (Laguna Seca) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKG7apeDmq-Ur9E (Fuji Speedway)

[@fernandamartins7123]

We want nurburgring too

[@POLO9999]

You know Paragleiber is playing hard when each recording shows his best lap of a 30minutes+ session.

[@hijinx7044]

And yet his driving skills are still not that great

[@Paragleiber]

@@hijinx7044 Can you explain what makes you say that? I have hundreds of top 1% leaderboard times in many different racing games and I even had some success in esports tournaments. How good does someone have to be for you to think that they have good driving skills?

[@Skater6453]

@@Paragleiber for KZbin trolls you have to be pretty much be god himself. And even then they would still shit talk cause they have nothing better to do with their own life. Don’t worry about it and keep doing your thing.

[@hazeone3120]

@Paragleiber dont care about these „backseat-gamer“ … usually they are way worse than the bottom 10% but talk like the very best in each game genre existing … just like this example here

[@gearhead2519]

@@gabrieljr5410 Shut the Fuck Up, you don't even know the guy, how can you know he's using Automatic Gears? Oh, right, *YOU DON'T* So shut the fuck up and go touch grass, idiot.

[@Joewhite87]

Crazy how GT4 still looks amazing even today!

[@eins2001]

It was capable of 1080p before HDMI was the standard!

[@Sh-hg8kf]

@@eins2001 1080i to be precise, not 1080p

[@forzacrewclips7773]

Indeed! 🤯

[@mewtwo.150]

Nah, but the design was the worst GT5 made it better Though GT2 design feels the best

[@widyatara_randy20]

@@mewtwo.150 I think you feel it wrong. Some people knew about GT4 was better than GT5, actually that Visual & Graphics so Unbelievable amazing.

[@divecolosio4988]

Fun fact : in GT4, there's a second pit entry placed after the last turn, you can enter it and the session is still going. Perfect if you want to photograph your car around the pit area.

[@widyatara_randy20]

I also try this trick, and yes. No pitstop haha 🤣 (second row : if you see of many cones there.)

[@YALE70]

I did the 30 minute High Speed Ring endurance mission on GT7 the other day and when it came time for a tire change, I ended up smashing right into the barrier where I expected the pit entrance to be outside of the tunnel, not realizing they moved it back onto the main straight. Old habits die hard I guess, haha.

[@aulazon9309]

lol, good times in gt5 right?

[@TheHammerGuy94]

Most noticable difference The bridge between turn 2 and 3 In GT1 and 2, it's non existent In GT4, it's a basic suspension bridge In GT5, this is the final design of the bridge It's an asymmetrical suspension bridge It looks the same in GT6 But in GT7, turn 2 has a sharper turn and added more spectator seating around the track. This smoothly follows to the suspension bridge which the support system somehow got much taller

[@divecolosio4988]

Seems the GT4 one are the major and final terrain revision over the prior versions with the addition of lakes and the bridges.

[@mikewhite2686]

I remember getting the first gran turismo back in the 90s. Back then we thought the graphics couldn’t get any better. Crazy how much it’s changed

[@vikino777]

At least the track never loses its flavor, as in the layout, even when its environment and surroundings changed over the years. The GT7 version of this track is like, "this is the way it's supposed to be, even by today's standards," proof that it can be done. Aside from the corner 2 being elongated and sharpened, this track layout never changes at all. BTW, High Speed Ring also appeared in GT5 Prologue and GTPSP.

[@wildannandawicaksana5004]

I hope PD brings more GT tracks like Midfield, Apricot Hill, Autumn Ring, and Special Stage

[@eins2001]

I hope Seattle and El Capitan return

[@rolentto129]

Red Rock Valley would be dope, and the original Super Speedway that PD made. From GT3 i'd like to see the Complex String circuit coming back. From GT4 i'd like to see the Hong-Kong Again, and Citta Di Aria. ❤❤

[@kaitospence18]

@@eins2001 Seattle on the other hand has one missing landmark: Alaskan Way Viaduct. The reason: demolished. The cause: structural hazard caused by the 2002 earthquake

[@Soonjai]

Given that we now I have the Tokyo Expressway Tracks I somewhat doubt that the old SS Routes through the City will come back, but I feel like Tokyo R246 and Seattle could come back as additional City tracks, maybe even Rome in one way or another. Other than that I feel that El Capitan, Midfield and Apricot Hill would probably fit GT7 the best. I would also love to see older versions of tracks added as Layout Variants, like i.e. "Trial Mountain (1997)", Spa with the old Bus Stop Chicane at the end or Old Hockenheim. And I would really love to see Tahiti Maze make a comeback for Rally events, that track always felt very satisfying to master.

[@fernandamartins7123]

Nurburgring

[@Metal-Head2001]

I did my first race of Gran Turismo in High Speed Ring. Iconic and nostalgic track.

[@SuraSzellem]

Interesting to see the same car-track combo get 20 seconds slower through the years

[@Paragleiber]

Well, the biggest outliers are GT1 and GT2. In those games the Castrol Supra has around 680 HP. In the other games it has around 470 HP. But the track plays a role as well. On Trial Mountain and Deep Forest the gap is only around 10 seconds between the first 6 games.

[@SuraSzellem]

Yea i noticed that the topspeed was higher so thats the reason, yes. But theres a general decline in later games as well, though just a few seconds

[@Seanthefox]

The new version of High Speed Ring looks great! I can see elements of the original from GT1 with the way PD added all of those pine trees and cliffs by the tunnel.

[@vancityguy]

Driving these original courses, over the generations, is like reuniting with an old friend...

[@wdunn06]

Great video mate. Appreciate the effort. I'm loving Gran Turismo 7 it's genuinely the first GT I've properly played since GT1 on the PS1. It's a superb game.

[@EasyNow90]

High Speed Ring evolved into a Slower Speed Ring. Nice Video!

[@tescoshortage]

Changes GT1 - The first iteration of High Speed Ring. A high-banked, high speed road course designed to test the limits of the fastest cars. Le Mans prototypes are capable of lapping the 3.1km circuit in the high 30 second range, with Super GT and touring cars lapping in the mid to high 40s. GT2 - Other than some graphical updates, such as car reflections, higher fidelity textures and improved tire smoke, the layout of HSR remained identical to GT1, save for a widened frontstretch and a usable pit lane. GT3 - Not present, as HSR was not featured in GT3. GT4 - 6 years after GT2's release, HSR gets its first next-gen makeover. The track received a 900 meter increase in length due to the entire track being increased in size by about 20 percent. This increased fast lap times on the now-4km circuit by about 15 seconds. The frontstretch and turn 1 were widened further. However, the progressive banking in the turn 3-5 complex was removed, making it flat. Le Mans prototypes lap in the mid-50 second range, with GT cars generally coming in at low 1:00s. The length of the track would remain unchanged to present day. GT5 - HSR receives its second next-gen makeover. The banking in turn 1 and turn 2 was increased slightly and the tunnel was remodeled. GT6 - GT5 port. Unchanged from GT5. GT7 - HSR receives its most significant reconfiguration since GT4. Turn 2 was dramatically cut in radius, making it tighter and lower-speed. However, the banking remains unchanged from GT5, resulting in it being still quite a fast and treacherous turn. The bridge straight was lengthened to compensate for the reduced radius of turn 2. The tunnel was remodeled again.

[@andasfs]

it's really cool how much GT has evolved over the years! Looking forward to see more :)

[@mx_ats]

Thankfully, they left this track layout untouched. Just cosmetic and new stands added.

[@Y5_710]

It serms that the same vehicle in the newer generations have slower Laptime, maybe it is caused by a more real vehicle-road-model.

[@manco4242]

2:57 Simply masterful cornering and driving. I've been playing GT4 for years and have never been able to get below a minute and 5 seconds on the Ring with that particular Supra (without driving dirty that is). You sir have some major skills. Haters in the comments take note, this is how you play a racing game.

[@nappy5853]

Crazy how similar gt5 and 6 are

[@thehwguy4293]

6 is essentially a patch for 5

[@conandoyle1740]

6 was a downgrade from 5 since it made cars a lot easier to drive and handle. also it made a lot of cars unrealistic faster than they were in real life. Gt6 by far the biggesr disappointment in gt history

[@gtp_dylan_gtp6100]

With the new sharpened T2 in GT7, you can carry much more speed if you run the high line. The corner is progressively banked just like T6. Great for setting up a pass into T3. Also, unless you are driving a really slow car, run as close to the outer wall as you can into T6 to carry as much speed as you can down the front stretch.

[@originalbakugan7671]

Gran Turismo 5 still looks gorgeous❤️❤️❤️🥰

[@MRGTR-94]

The turbo lag sound in gt2 is wonderful :')

[@gamesmael4707]

Gran turismo 1 único melhor jogo agilidade melhor emoção, não se compara a hoje , hoje só a imagem melhorou a diversão ficou no ps1 ❤

[@joshzach89]

This man is a dedicated hot lapper

[@Katana2097]

I'll always like the theme of the original version - with it's big concrete walls and the forested bit near the tunnel. I like the design from GT4 onwards too, and how it was lengthened quite a bit. I also noticed that Turn 2 has been sharpened up a bit in GT7, probably to promote a bit of slower speed overtaking opportunities.

[@TimVigilla]

So awesome. GT1 was my only GT. Are there other tracks that remained in the series throughout like maybe Grand Valley Speedway? Trail mountain? Would be great to see a video like this for those.

[@Paragleiber]

Trial Mountain and Deep Forest are the other tracks from GT1 that are in GT7. And I will make such a video about those too. I already announced that. :) Grand Valley Speedway was in the first 6 games but it's not in GT7 so far. They will add more tracks to GT7 with future updates though, so maybe in the future Grand Valley will be there as well.

[@TimVigilla]

@@Paragleiber awesome!

[@Momo4060i]

This really just shows how GT is still stuck in the 90s gameplay wise.

[@renzrenz202]

GT7 is what GT1 looked like in my eyes back in 1997. i was 12.

[@michaelcartwright4628]

I completely forgot turns 3 & 4 used to be that banked. Way more technical being flat

[@cameronb3834]

It’s weird that GT3 was the only one not to feature High Speed Ring no wonder why I don’t remember that track.

[@sr7spec]

Nice track with new details

[@haryosoo]

I guess GT7 is still missing some underrated original tracks, such as SSR11, Grindelwald, Red Rock Valley, and Rome-Night Street Course. Something else I missed?

[@domi21121990]

i agree with you. I also miss Grand Valley Speedway, Midfield Raceway and the Seattle Street Course.

[@rosaria8384]

SSR5, 7, and 11 should be a separate portion of the wider Tokyo Expressway tbh, to reflect the real life counterpart of the Tokyo freeways being super diverse. And yep, they should be brought back but with Tokyo Expressway aesthetic.

[@boomkittyFX]

i think as the games progress, there's less and less trees and green around

[@dragoontype00alphaz19]

@@beegdawg well and fact replace road 4 times and replace bridge 2 times and dug lake then built dam

[@rosaria8384]

Think about it - race tracks often don't have much trees within their property location. This is why I think Deep Forest and Trial Mountain in GT7 look so deforested - maybe, just maybe there's less trees so that spectators and marshals (and medical staff) can access the track easier in the events of emergencies.

[@parazels83]

Legendary game!

[@QF_Dan72]

Imagine an endurance race at High Speed Ring. That could be fun

[@r.a.6459]

GT4 has this track on its Formula GT championship. The race lasted 77 laps.

[@rosaria8384]

@@r.a.6459 Man I wish GT7 gets those kinds of races again, as well as Formula Gran Turismo based on 2022 F1

[@itachi1165]

@@rosaria8384 is there no endurance races in gt7?

[@rosaria8384]

@@itachi1165 UPDATE: there are endurance races. Head for Missions and you will see Human Comedy - these are 1 hour races. There is also a Spa 60 minutes in recent update, and there are 30 minute endurance events as well as a 24 minute Le Mans mission race. There are no races longer than an hour yet.

[@user-ye2xr5wi1z]

Помню первую и вторую часть. Офигенные были игры, играл сутками

[@nasserwhite6637]

I can't wait to see trial mountain and deep forest and high speed ring and grand valley highway on Gran turismo 8

[@BLKBRDSR71]

Fastest laps GT1 - 0:45:868 GT2 - 0:49:003 GT4 - 1:04:182 GT5 - 1:02:676 GT6 - 1:04:568 GT7 - 1:08:427 Did the track get bigger or the cars get slower after GT2?

[@Denverian]

I spent so much time playing GT2, pretty much learned how to play a racing game. When GT3 came out, it was an eye popping moment except it was heavily lacking contents. Then GT4, it consumed a fair portion of my late teens.

[@ChillkittzGT]

Do you guys actually realize the high speed ring is literally the high speed version of the old fuji speedway...

[@TuttyFruttynuts]

Gran Turismo 2 has some great engine sounds

[@___Runnaz3768]

6:21 I love this turn

[@VardelRF]

Perfection!

[@wallacesantos0]

If there is one track from games that I feel like it should be in real life, is this one. It would be perfect for Nascar

[@GT4tube]

Different Time lap :O

[@ishaqgt946]

People in every game evolution video : The 1st one is the best 😂

[@forzacrewclips7773]

GT 5 / 6 felt the same

[@AvithOrtega]

GT1 when GT cars used to run like Formula 1 cars

[@Bucket0213]

Corners are sharper in GT7 Same as deep forest

[@tangentstoby]

My lap record for this track on GT1 is 0:44:530

[@juanpablogaitan]

The bridge in GT4 isn't the same at GT5,GT6 and GT7

[@jasonwhigham335]

The gt7 version finally gets rid of the ridiculously long pit road

[@Ryan0825]

Evolution of New York Circuit in racing games ?

[@jbarber1016]

Not driving high enough line around final turn

[@GugaBahr.]

And lap time increase every new release

[@divecolosio4988]

If you do history of original GT Tracks, would you do it in free practice mode where there's other cars around and so it doesn't felt lonely? I know the feature did not present in pre-GT4 titles, but why not?

[@Paragleiber]

I have already recorded the other tracks in GT1-GT6, so I will use the same format for them. But there will definitely be some GT videos with other cars too. Just not for the track history videos. Here I like to use time trial.

[@Paragleiber]

@@TRACKSTARRR Sure. There are many possible ways to make a video like this. Personally I have chosen this particular format and I am very happy with it, so I have no desire to change it. Like I said I will definitely make videos with other cars as well though. It just isn't my intention for this particular type of video.

[@carolsilva-em7zr]

Gt7 is out for ps4 too

[@sleebanger]

is this suppose to be fuji speedway?

[@yrrr4871]

Is Gran Turismo better than Forza? I'm curious about it

[@Paragleiber]

Well, there are many different games in each franchise. Which Forza games have you played so far? And which things are important for you in a game?

[@ilovef1forever]

I prefer the old T2

[@RANKSTER0815]

Gt4 on ps2 looks sooooo good. Shocked...w.t.f.

[@roymcdre9180]

Its crazy where the lines are in gt5 lol Also, its not in 3??

[@Paragleiber]

Yep, GT3 didn't have it.

[@goodiesbogdan7466]

Почему ты везде едешь только на Супре? И зачем ещё ехать огромное количество кругов когда можно снимать с первого же круга? Я не придираюсь ну просто чтоб легче было.

[@D31V3RS0N]

Sound cars gt1 gt2 > all

[@robertaprilino5206]

why getting slower every year? i don't understand

[@ruzgarakgul2051]

Damn you beat rynogt4 to it

[@Paragleiber]

What do you mean? He already made this video several years ago. I have literally put a link to his video in the description, lol.

[@ruzgarakgul2051]

@@Paragleiber yes but he didn’t update his video to include GT7

[@Paragleiber]

@@ruzgarakgul2051 That's correct. And I don't think he has any intention to do that either.

[@user-zi3vq5hk2h]

อัปเดต😊😊😊😊😊

PS5 is a PS4 Pro with HDD.

[@keandanh.]

Gran Turismo 3 not map ?

[@minihasahead]

Did they lengthen the second straight

[@qualitycontent5244]

Can you include GT PSP next time if you can?

[@Paragleiber]

No, I am only showing the main games 1-7 and Sport. I have never played the PSP game and I am not planning to try it in the near future. Maybe some day but probably not soon.

[@X2011racer]

GT PSP courses are identical to GT4, save for some signs in the World Circuits being replaced. In a way, there's no point.

[@mcgrady119]

How and where to buy this supra in GT7

[@Paragleiber]

It can show up at the legend dealer.

[@user-rx3mu2ms9l]

段々とタイム遅くなってんの面白い

[@Yoshimurha]

Something I never understood with the Gran Turismo games - why do their engines ALWAYS, even in 2022, sound like a moped? Never once does the cars in Gran Turismo sound like the actual cars, or even like A car. Why?

[@ohyakusyou---japan]

2と3持ってたなぁ・・・5以降それほど進化ない感じがする

[@JP-xd6fm]

There's no GT3?

[@Paragleiber]

There is also a GT3 game but it's not in this video, since it doesn't have High Speed Ring and this video is about High Speed Ring.

[@jackk8422]

what about gt3?

[@Paragleiber]

What is your question about it?

[@johnmvp8938]

Involution*

[@GTRMclaren722]

Man I hate the far away shity default camera of GT since GT5. God bless we can change that shit to Near Chase camera

[@Victory72]

3が無いのは未実装?

[@redgetgauk1492]

GT3 is missing

[@TrevorPotjer]

No high speed ring in GT3 :(

[@cristianobertellijunior1in957]

0:46 to 1:08 wtf

[@Lucto]

You missed granturismo sport

[@Paragleiber]

You are wrong. I didn't miss it.

[@Lucto]

@@Paragleiber why ?

[@Paragleiber]

@@Lucto It's just not the case.

[@Lucto]

@@Paragleiber ok

[@elite0497]

you forgot PSP version

[@Paragleiber]

You are wrong.

[@aguingram4671]

gt5 car its same gt 6 and 7...

[@Charles-xu7pu]

Graphically, the games have barely changed since GT5

[@nogvdub88]

I guess we have to wait for gt8 for better car sounds

[@tridenteartista]

Gran Turismo 3??????🤔🤔🤔

[@Paragleiber]

What is your question about it?

[@tridenteartista]

Paragleiber you haven't tried GT3.....

[@Paragleiber]

@@tridenteartista Of course. I have played a lot of it.

[@Tomslipknot]

High Speed Ring wasn't in GT3.

[@lockedine]

PS1 was just fun. Modern loses spirit of fun

[@Lucas-se6hq]

Where is GT3 ???

[@Paragleiber]

GT3 is on PS2.

[@Lucas-se6hq]

I don't care about that, no relation

[@Paragleiber]

Then why do you ask about it?

[@Lucas-se6hq]

you made a comparison of all gran turismo games, very well done that's not the problem, but why there is no gran turismo 3? that's just my fucking question.

[@Paragleiber]

It's a comparison of a specific race track and Gran Turismo 3 doesn't have this track.

[@Sol_Bodybuilding]

This track looks like pig:)