Evolution of the Dutch-Made AR10

[@hildoschutte6200]

Fun fact: Apparently AR10's faced each other at least once in combat: In 1972 a Dutch doctor spent a few months ‘behind the lines’ with the liberation movement MPLA in Angola, which at the time was still a Portugese colony. In the report of his trip he mentioned that the MPLA had a number of Sudanese AR10’s, probably delivered through a solidarity program of the Organisation of African Unity, which were used in combat against a group of Portugese para’s wielding the same rifle (or, as we’ve learnt from this video: A variety of the same rifle).

[@lepmuhangpa]

I know about this event, makes sense that they could come close from both sides.

[@thedutchwolf9747]

Death to the MPLA!!!

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

Same can be said to Maxim machine gun, FAL, M16

[@omartorres5688]

@@hoppinggnomethe4154 Imagines maxim mounted on the Huey Helicopter

[@pedrotome9119]

Quite right. I am portuguese and I know that you are right! Thank you, Sir

[@SoYFooD2]

the funny thing is the dutch army later adopted a M16A2 variant but due to high demand the guns was made under license in Canada by dimaco. (die making companie love that name)they made most of the blank uppers and lowers for colt so they made half of the gun anyway. they were named the dimaco C7 (semi and 3 round burst) and the C8(semi and full) and from around 2010 got a upgrade by colt and ar now names the colt C7 and colt C8. so an American idea modified by the dutch and sold by a brit was than developed further by the Americans and licensed to Canadians to be sold to the dutch and upgraded by Americans.

[@BicyclesMayUseFullLane]

Pretty sure C7 IUR is a Colt Canada only thing. Also, apparently Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco) is a subsidiary of Colt, but operations are not quite connected. That's why when Colt went bankrupt, Colt Canada is chugging along just fine.

[@SoYFooD2]

if had a 1995 and a 1996 model but i believe if seen 1992 cereal numbers.it became colt Canada in 2005 and one of my buddy's was a weapon repair guy and all spare parts came from colt u.s.a.except for the split pen driver, it was a glock one. strange i know.

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

And so:The industrial machine marches on.

[@tristanholland6445]

@@BicyclesMayUseFullLane Colt Canda has far superior quality control and more modern production facilities vs Colt of course because it was a separate company until Colt bought it out. However Colt Canada only makes firearms for military markets and the Canadian market

[@Mech1829]

In the CF (Canadian Forces) the C7 is the rifle (0.53 m barrel) and the C8 the carbine (0.40 m barrel) both were/ are full auto - modes of fire in CF C7/C8 are repetition and automatic no 3 round burst as in U.S. M16A2 variants.

[@dbmail545]

The final Portuguese pattern seems pretty advanced. Shame this gun never got into US service. Even the "heavy" guns are lighter than the M14.

[@born_2cook]

The portuguese got cut off from buying more of them because of an embargo. Back then, fighting to keep control of your colonies when everyone else was letting them go wasn't particularly well seen by the international community :)

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

@@born_2cook would have ended up being better for Angola and Mozambique.

[@paullytle1904]

@@ThatGuy-te9wh america would be better off under England freedom

[@micuna5743]

@@paullytle1904 comfort? Fucking lol

[@GlobstersMessenger]

@@paullytle1904 yes, having your possessions taken away by authoratarians and your families murdered randomly is certainly preferable to being an untaxed, subsidised puppet state, it's also definately more free

[@mortenrl1946]

The Dutch really live up to their merchant reputation, hahah. Love how they managed to get Castro to pay for something he could've just taken, while getting away with making arms deals with hostile foreign powers.

[@kutamsterdam]

My Grandpa worked on the barrels of the AR10 at Artillery Inrichtingen in Zaandam The Netherlands wich is a museum now.

[@kirstie4319]

Nice story, Br.. *Wait...*

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

His name was Brad too?

[@dandhan87]

Why Netherlands was not interested in making their guns

[@zenger74]

Then he most likely did the same with the FAL barrels?

[@RTmadnesstoo]

@@seantheguy1391 There are no 'old' Brn-10s.

[@deviation1000]

Ah yes, the Dutch AR10s - specifically selected by the Dutch for their waffle magazines, or "stroopwafelsmagazijnen" as they are known in the low countries.

[@captainbackflash]

*lol*

[@Silo1195]

Do they come with maple syrup in the cleaning kit though? 🤔

[@joost1120]

@@Silo1195 I think you're confusing the Netherlands with Canada. Understandable, as the C7s and C8s in service in both countries are manufactured in Canada. The Dutch AR-10s came with caramel syrup instead.

[@deviation1000]

@@Silo1195 No, but the bakelite furniture can be melted down into a chocolate syrup

[@Sheridan2LT]

lol k nerd

[@ADRay1999]

I am so thankful that Brownells is Reproducing the retro AR 10 (BRN-10) and the other retro AR rifles

[@johnstacy7902]

their Retail Store is pretty cool....

[@wilsonj4705]

If only the plastic they chose for the furniture didn't look so cheesy

[@johnstacy7902]

@@wilsonj4705 be really expensive to make those out of fibre glass nowadaze... With entry level ARs under $300 they had to come up with some goofy idea to sell guns... by goofy I meant inavative.

[@wilsonj4705]

Understand that. It's just that the ones I've seen the plastic looked like something on a cheap Chinese made toy and not something I would expect on a $1,500 rifle.

[@johnstacy7902]

@@wilsonj4705 If you got froggy I dont think Carbon Fibre handguards be too hard to make. Sort of of a "one and done".... Just save your old ones

[@rangefinder3538]

Several AR10's were bought by Scandinavian Airlines for their cross polar routes in case the plane crashed and Polar bears showed up.

[@johnstacy7902]

Thats the Retro AR10 Id like to see!!! Not sure if 308 be 1st choice for bears thou.. Suppose to you take out a Caribou or 2 if you got hungry.

[@pyrrhusofepirus3792]

@@johnstacy7902 idk I'm sure if you see a polar bear and you slug it 4 or 5 times .308 is more then sufficient I imagine

[@johnstacy7902]

@@pyrrhusofepirus3792 those critters are pretty fast. I'd go with a 12 gage pump. Besides semi mite not work in the super cold. That why the Greenland patrol carries bolt action 30/06

[@pyrrhusofepirus3792]

@@johnstacy7902 it may not work that's true I still say 20 rounds of 308 is hard to argue it's not that far of of 30-06 any way but I dont live there I might change my mind if I did

[@pyrrhusofepirus3792]

@@theangrycheeto i see the point your trying to make but its the same one you would have with any other potential contemporary replacement magnified because you replacement is probably a bolt gun plus id say if you are trapped in the arctic its probably a good idea to take a more aggressive stance on polar bears then one might otherwise take and have your group shoot them on sight

[@Scooby556]

At 20:00, you’ll note the bolt catch has a spacer insert in the front. Early AR10s would develop a crack in the lower at this point. They solved it by just adding an insert. Also, on the Portuguese, a good number of transitional lowers had earlier lowers converted to the new charging handle by dovetailing the riser at the rear, covering the charging handle cutout.

[@dutchman2205]

In the ‘70’s, ‘80’s and ‘90’s, the Dutch made AR10’s were very around in the target shooting community. In those (pre-AR15) days, the AR10 was the only rifle that was accurate enough to be a platform that could win matches. The only rifles that could meet AR10 accuracy were a good and accurized M14 and Springfield 1903A3. You could buy a AI Hembrug AR10 for approximately $1200,- in the late ‘90’s early 2000’s. Since the AR15 became dominant in match conditions, AR10’s are literally forgotten here in the Netherlands. Fun fact: When the FAL became chosen to become the new rifle for the Dutch army and the government stopped funding the AR10 project, AI Hembrug employees could buy the remaining manufactured AR10 parts for scrap metal prizes, and eventually ended up on the civilian market. Gun shops assembled rifles from al the part they had, so here in Holland it was very common to see weird unofficial versions. Hybrid versions. They were just ‘Dutch’ made rifles once here, but now most spare parts are dried out, people that had close relations with former AI Hembrug employees died, the AR10 is expensive now. The last fire arm ever manufactured in Holland. Now it’s History

[@ChaohsiangChen]

Judging by the situation right now, the Dutch people need yhe 2nd Amendment and hopefully will produce AR pattern rifles in .308 for the Dutch civilians soon.

[@Marcel_Germann]

German Bundeswehr tested the AR-10 too, designation G4. The numbers are not only given to firearms which are really introduced into service, the numbers are given already at the test. G1 was the FAL, and the Bundeswehr looked out for a replacement of that one. G2 was a SIG 510 in 7.62mm NATO. And I think everyone here knows the G3. And since some licensing issues, they wanted the rifle produced domestically in license, the Bundeswehr picked the G3 and introduced it in 1959. And even if it's replaced by the G36 now, the G3 is still kept as a reserve rifle. There are several bunkers in Germany, at secret locations, where several are stored and maintained. They even retrofitted it to modern standards like ambidextreous safeties and a case deflector for left handed shooters.

[@johndrake5014]

An excellent video. Around 1979/80 an outfit, don't remember the name, imported around three-hundred AR-10's. They turned in the lower receivers and had new semi-auto only ones made up. The anodizing on the lower was very close to the color of the upper. I purchased one. The gun was in great condition except for some corrosion in the bore. It came with ten "waffle" magazines. It was fairly accurate and a delight to shoot. One of my many "I wish I still had it" guns.

[@richardkeller4234]

In sixth grade my orthodontists office entrance was down a hallway on the ground floor behind an office building. One of the first office doors after entering had a “Inter Arms” sign on the door. On one appointment the Inter Arms office door was open a little and i could see a whole wall of military looking rifle weapons. RK

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

Did you grow up in Arlington, VA?

[@Blondie-Actual]

Damn, most people I know hate going to the orthodontist. You were lucky.

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

"...presumably with _someone else's_ money." Ha! Never change, Ian!

[@aghostbro]

Bet all the other fighters were SUPER jealous of that dude in Yemen with the OG AR-10.

[@Gladiator34B]

Aghost Bro lol they probably didn’t even know what it was called

[@Gladiator34B]

Titanium Rain definitely

[@artemis_smith]

Depends on if they had a steady supply of the right ammo. No one's jealous of a guy stuck with a gun he can't use.

[@Swat_Dennis]

Imo it is kinda sad how the Dutch above all nations had to go and build US guns, the nation with the biggest arms industry in the world. Still as someone from the Netherlands, I kinda feel proud about these guns...

[@AgentDanielCross]

Well, with Armalite, they couldn't exactly produce it like the big wigs, so why not?

[@AgentDanielCross]

@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Exactly! They are a real piece of art!

[@charlesadams1721]

Well, back in the mid-50’s the Soviet Union was still working mightily to produce more guns to help spread the revolution to the remainder of the world. After all, the China was still a virtually a client state of the Soviets and the North Koreans were getting all sorts of arms production from the Soviets as well.

[@granknutterbutter3472]

The Portuguese pattern with the integral bipod is just so beautiful

[@g.galordy9853]

I found one in mint condition a year ago. Bought it without second thought. Just sits in the safe. I am afraid to scratch it haha

[@dakotajohnson4229]

Hey Ian, I wanted to thank you as I have a lab this week involving my Stag 10 build. Due the it's nature, it uses parts from the AR10/SR25 as well as that of lr308/DPMS. I needed to do research on the platform and it's different iterations. You have been one of my greatest source this entire time

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Glad I could help!

[@lfr5007]

Love the 'Some one else money' joke!

[@phileas007]

yeah, cause like any other gvmt isn't spending "someone else's cash" at all, right

[@lfr5007]

@@phileas007 taxation is theft.

[@aaronrushton1]

Gun jesus may be an expert on firearms, but not on politics unfortunately.

[@theJellyjoker]

That is how communism works, it's all fun and games until you run out of other people's money.

[@ThisOldHat]

All wealth is created by workers. Communism is when workers control the product of their ow labor. Its capitalists who pay for everything with wealth produced by other people. Modern Cuba does a better job of taking care of its people than the US with a fraction the wealth per-capita. Better health care, better nutrition, better housing, higher literacy rate, etc.

[@centblinde1450]

I really hope Brownells makes a Portuguese model. Been holding out for it, but no joy yet...

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

Dutch government to Dutch manufacturer: "We're not going to buy this awesome gun made in our own country, we're rather buying FALs from abroad". Then a few years later: "oh you got a nice deal with Portugal? Guess what? We're shutting you down!" LOL WTF? This kind of government behaviour sounds even worse than what I'm used to in Germany...

[@Silo1195]

I like that you started to add pictures explaining some of the references that you are talking about (e.g. the Guatemalan gun, etc.). That really helps visualize.

[@keithweiss7899]

In the early 1980’s I was at the Ohio gun collector’s show in Columbus. There was a dealer selling AR-10 semi-auto receivers there. I recall that they were made by the old Sendra Corp. There were parts kits from Portugal being brought in to the U.S. at the time. I debated about buying one but decided against it. Another decision I regret!

[@jamesdewer]

Thanks Ian! This video dovetails nicely with the book "The ArmaLite AR-10 Rifle: The Saga of the First Modern Combat Rifle" The 2nd edition completely updated revisions by author a US Army infantry officer Captain S. Pikula. A great first-person narrative of a soldier that may well have been so armed had the 10 been adopted. You can see why it wasn't adopted and how it's such a shame that it wasn't. The book is concise and only mentions the distinctions not comparisons with the AR15. Completely different the 10 and 15. Thanks for this great AI

[@TheBuffaloSamurai]

"(Castro, and Guevara) paid for them.... presumably with SOMEONE ELSE'S money." nice....

[@tokul76]

Or ironic if they paid with Batista's money.

[@betweenthebennyandme]

Trying to figure out how our military isn't buying shit with someone else's money.

[@betweenthebennyandme]

@@tokul76 money given to him by the US in the first place.

[@robinrakoextra8800]

Commies

[@skotiskiller]

Castro and Che used these weapons to defend the Cuban people interests in the invasion in the Bay of Pigs and to improve their living standard in contrast to USA who used these weapons to kill millions of people all over the world AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AMERICANS WHO DIED OUTSIDE OF THEIR COUNTRY. I prefer Castro and Che usage personally.

[@rdeanbenson2214]

Being a Nam Combat Vet (I carried a Thompson), I can appreciate the AR10. We should have had those (SEALS did, I believe). The FN-FAL would have been a better choice though.

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

Thank you for your service.

[@CL-vz6ch]

@@CatsAreAmazing8187 thank you for thanking him for his service

[@Friendly-Unit]

Thank you for all of the amazing content, happy New year

[@koenvangeleuken2853]

you can see some connection of the last AR10 with the FAL the dutch army ordered: these too all had (heavy) bipods, and metal(heavy ) handguards, and they were restricted to semi-auto only. it was considered that the average conscript could not handle full-auto.

[@thadude1337]

One point i'd like to inform you of, normal numbers 1 2 3 is West Arabic numerals. Latin or roman numerals is I V X L

[@forestalfrank1074]

We actually use Hindu numerals which the Arabs got when conquering India (~ today Pakistan) and pretended they are of their own origin.

[@vrisbrianm4720]

@@forestalfrank1074 They are called Arabic numerals because they were introduced to the West by the Arab merchants. The Arabs themselves have called it Hindu numerals since the beginning

[@cs-rj8ru]

I'd like to inform you that you would write 123 ARE West Arabic numerals. ARE not IS.... That aside I'd give those teachers in Charleston, WV a B+. It appears they did teach you something....

[@LivvorMorthis]

Seeing this wall behind you is enough to make my mouth water. Those are some very good looking pieces

[@bosniakedisniksic]

Those numerals are actual Arabic numerals. And the "Latin numerals" you mentioned are called Arabic numerals. But of course some changes were made while making their way to western Europe.

[@bosniakedisniksic]

@@upscaleshack let me guess, Iranian/Persian Nationalist?

[@TiesOfZip]

“They agreed to pay for them…presumably with someone else’s money” is the best line I’ve ever heard Ian drop. Well played, sir.

[@michaelfodor6280]

Interesting note that in Canada, AR-10 derived rifles (Stag 10, NEA/BCL 102, and the Alberta Tactical's Modern Varmint, Sporter & Hunter) are non restricted while AR-15 derived rifles are all restricted. (Basically range queen use only.) The big difference (besides caliber) between my Stag 10 and Smith & Wesson M&P 15 is that the back of the upper is slanted on the Stag 10 while the M&P 15's is curved. And that's apparently all the difference needed to keep the RCMP happy. Aren't gun laws great?

[@fuzzwork]

The RCMP seem to be allergic to .223 semi automatic rifles, but not .308 for some reason

[@MetalHermit83]

Stuck in a hotel for drill in my weekend, And I see this lovely vid pop up in my sub box, welp time to kick back and enjoy a bud, thanks Ian for salvaging at least a little of my weekend!

[@ZGryphon]

I love that on the Cuban gun, it looks like someone took it on himself to hand-scribe "HOLLAND" below the factory mark for "Nederland", in case anyone couldn't figure out where Nederland is. (I know, I know, Dutch people, Holland is only _part_ of the Netherlands, but even so...)

[@quasimodo8959]

Yeah often it's said it's a province ( by foreigners ). But it's not. There is North-holland and Zuid-Holland ( provinces ). There's a total of 12 provinces.

[@matthayward7889]

Ian talks AR10? Yes please! Seems amazing to me that just 5 years before the British army were still using SMLE in Korea. An AR10 must have seemed like a sci fi super gun.

[@lizardb8694]

Matt Hayward it gets better, in 1956 during the Suez crisis British forces were still using No. 4 Mk 2 Lee Enfields against opposition that was armed with self loading rifles.

[@matthayward7889]

AnPrime that’s cool. Do you remember the name of the show?

[@matthayward7889]

LizardB86 I didn’t know that! Must have been disheartening to say the least. Thank god for the Bren!

[@matthayward7889]

zoiders especially the carbine EM2 with the shorter barrel!

[@MrSplic3r]

Well, as Ian mentions early in the video, they WERE designed in Hollywood. American Movie Magic Laser Sprayer!

[@Mrgunsngear]

AWESOME video

[@treyfannin4037]

@@user-UC7PfZyg-o4 indeed indeed

[@blue_ridge_shooting762]

@@user-UC7PfZyg-o4 indeed indeed indeed indeed

[@jobRobbemond]

@@user-UC7PfZyg-o4 indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

[@mrpirate6187]

job Robbemond indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

[@BradKarlovec]

@@mrpirate6187 indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

[@monsieursir1305]

Ah perfect, my trees were starting to speak Vietnamese and I was starting to get worried

[@monsieursir1305]

@@rayfeltz8477 oh god oh fuck

[@monsieursir1305]

@Huckleberry Sarge don't call in Napalm on our position I have a wife and kids

[@Warriorcat49]

Just so long as the snow doesn’t start speaking Finnish...

[@Tunkkis]

@@Warriorcat49 "Ylös pojat Pohjanmaan! Urhot kalliit Karjalan! Jäämit ja Savon miehet rintamahan!"

[@hendo337]

"What is your malfunction Private Pyle, did mommy and daddy not hug you enough as a child?"

[@GermanDude1126]

So early the view count is lower than the combined mag capacity of those rifles on the table.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

The Portuguese version is the one I have. Granted, it's one of the semi-auto parts kit guns, and it doesn't have the cool bipod, but hey its still pretty neat!

[@nicklemberger3101]

I can't recall ever even touching a real firearm, but I watch and thoroughly enjoy every video on this channel 👍

[@r6984]

Get a break barrel pellet rifle, learn, get a .22, practice, fall in love with freedom

[@DankbeastPaul]

@Dave well in some places they're kinda illegal until you go through a fuckton of paperwork and money, and even then it's only smoothbore guns and even THEN you are only allowed to use it for hunting

[@Stormcloakvictory]

@@r6984 .22 pellet rifle? or .22 firearm? The latter is sadly also illegal here, unless you go though alot of paper work, time and money. Dutch air gun laws are more lenient than British or German ones if I recall, so that's something 🤷

[@r6984]

@@Stormcloakvictory either pellet of firearm, also don't underestimate airguns they can be quite powerful.

[@Southernguitar74]

This comment saddens me. Any good man who wants to not only touch, but own and enjoy firearms should damn well have the right to do so.

[@feelthepayne88]

Those are some beautiful rifles.

[@machinist2547]

AI, later named Eurometaal, continued making munition until 2003. Another interesting gun made by them is the experimental Garand with an AR10 magazine.

[@doncarlton4858]

Ian, thanks for another great video on the AR 10! I've been a fan of these rifles since the late 1970s but I've learned more from your videos than I knew before! Following you I'm becoming the Military Arms SME among my local shooters!

[@louis6842]

It would be so awesome to see a video on the Hollywood pattern of AR-10s, with their funky carry handles and tin can muzzle compensators.

[@meadball1]

"...They agreed to pay for them, presumably with someones elses money..." This is why Ian is awesome!

[@monsieurdubois2830]

Definitely a platform ahead of it's time. I own an AR308 and that wouldn't be possible without Mr. Stoner's vision. Thank you, sir, and thank you, Ian, for the great content!

[@m.3591]

Such a great channel. Your knowledge blows me away.

[@farmerbrown84]

YIPPPPEEEEEE... Got my Portuguese model AR-10 today!!! I've been after one for years. Surprisingly, its serial number is very close to the one Ian shows here.

[@BNoakville]

Always loved that charging handle position over the current one.

[@petesheppard1709]

I remember long ago, when I first saw that, wondering what a second trigger was doing on top! :p It does look practical, but I understand it got hot, and interferes with optics (that Sudanese sniper variant notwithstanding)--though it wasn't an issue back then.

[@celmer6]

Great video. Perhaps it's time to bring "What Would Stoner Do" to the AR-10? It would be very interesting to see your take on the Modern lightweight 7.62x51 AR platform build. Your "What Would Stoner Do" series got me into a Carbon Fiber lightweight build for my girlfriend and then my sister wanted 1 too and talked my mom into 1.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

I think Ian mentioned this once, we literally got a wwsd ar10. Aka the knights armament ar10, literally designed by stoner himself

[@NinjaSyndication]

the cuban ones have a wonderful story, great video btw

[@brianrmc1963]

All of your stories are excellent, but this is one of the most interesting.

[@Steveindajeep]

Damn it Ian...im trying to get shit done this saturday and you post this, now i gotta watch it.

[@pistolero486]

Love the AR-10. I think a very underrated beast.

[@cf8027]

Please do a review on a ShKAS aircraft machine gun if you can get your hands on one. I'm very interested in how this gun works.

[@pops55650]

Whenever I need to learn about a gun I come across, this is my first resource to learn about it.

[@roykliffen9674]

Yeah, well .... that's the Dutch government for you.Where most governments prefer to buy nationally produced items, The Dutch government seems to consider buying Dutch as somehow not done.

[@maximilianmustermann5763]

Is this to do with anti-gun politics? I know from Germany that the anti-gun left has been fuming for decades about H&K being a huge international manufacturer and also supplying the German army and police. There have been smear campaigns after smear campaigns against H&K, trying to get them out and ruin them. These smear campaigns often start inside the political system, like with the G36.

[@quasimodo8959]

@@maximilianmustermann5763 I guess it would be viewed at as cockey to use our own. And if we can make a deal and tell other countrys they make nice stuff not doing it would be a missed opportunity to kiss ass

[@randomfamilyman4876]

I want a wall like that in my man cave

[@randomfamilyman4876]

Dylan White I can build the walls, getting my hands on the firearms will be the problem!

[@miguelencanarias]

Me too, but any wife on this planet would object, so here we are...

[@joshuahjfarquharm.3269]

it wouldn't fit in my man cave, I just have crapper and a locking door.

[@randomfamilyman4876]

Joshuahj Farquharm. I call that “the safe house” only place I can escape the wife and kids for an extended period of time

[@randomfamilyman4876]

Miguel Domínguez right on

[@aiayou]

Big thanks for kilos subtitles. Please do it again.

[@rideablepanda]

Work in a dutch gun store and someone brought the one with the bipod and I was absolutely amazed gun feels amazing

[@Darth-Nihilus1]

Ian can you please do a video on the difference between the SR25, Sig 716, Hk 417 and Hk G28

[@stoneblue1795]

Holy windmills Batman, cool stuff!

[@aidsaap88]

I'm glad that I own a Portuguese pattern AR10, almost the same serial number as the one in the video. Mine is in a better shape though :) still in love with it

[@Punisher9419]

I like the Portuguese one the most. I really wish they made these early AR's with wooden furniture because they would have looked so damn nice.

[@bartb7790]

They did that (to replace broken fiberglass/plastic parts).

[@martentrudeau6948]

Really excellent history, good stuff.

[@ferway6295]

Excellent video, very informative. Keep up the great work!

[@paulmurphy3496]

For one of your upcoming videos, can you explore the Colt MARS Experiment, particularly the two cartridges that it was potentially chambered for?

[@jessicasimp4459]

I watched several AR-10 clips last night until this one appeared in my news feed. Wow, it's a lucky coincidence.

[@grimlock1471]

Idle question... Sullivan said he moved the charging handle of the AR-15 b/c it got to hot. Wouldn't the handle get just as hot, or more, on the AR-10?

[@ManMak6]

That Bakelite though 😍😍😍

[@ianmacbrooke4617]

Do you think Brownells will ever offer that Portuguese model?

[@flipzhat]

I need one of these in my life they just look so damn good

[@mikehunter5046]

Excellent job Ian!!

[@tristans9006]

“ they paid for them, presumably with someone else’s money” gave me a good 😂 Their money now!

[@randallpetroelje3913]

I’d love to shoot all. Stoner was a beautiful and brilliant designer. From what I understand the original was a ..308. Then switched to.225. A lot of parts,beautiful. Thanks again for your show 👍. I heard that the fn/fals had some problems?? Just curious.

[@JG54206]

That’s correct. The AR-10 was the original design which was then scaled down into the AR-15.

[@rigormortis1425]

Gunz r blazin',dude!

[@erik2811]

I See Dutch I upvote.

[@Kaajman]

We agree

[@Weregus1]

"Presumably with someone else's money" The first time LOL was literary appropriate description of my reaction to that.

[@CoreySimmons85]

It would be sooo awesome if Brownells did the Portuguese pattern ar10 someday.

[@bastiaan0741]

I can imagine Cuba was pretty happy to get what they got before the embargo.

[@dustinewing7974]

I wish Brownells didn't have to discontinue those retro rifles with the trigger-style charging handles... they were so darn cool!

[@theopinion9452]

I was born in Cuba in 1970 and never had a clue that there was a Cuban patent, very interesting history,I do remember there was a boat load of FAL rifles that got bombed while Che Guevara was helping to unload the ship himself back in 1961-63..something like that.

[@robertpearson9207]

One small contract was for 5 semi-auto only AR-10's for KLM Royal Dutch Airlines. Supposedly they were to be issued to flights over the North Pole region as a survival tool in case of having to come down in the frozen wastelands.

[@dawnofjustice4689]

If you ever go there again, Ian, please make a video about that short weapon on the wall right behind you. It looks very interesting for me :)

[@My-Name-Isnt-Important]

These are my favorite AR model designs. Especially the Portuguese pattern. That one would have made a great rifle for the US, instead of the M-14. Even it being in 5.56 mm would have been awesome.

[@NorthKoreaUncovered]

Well considering an AR-10 in 5.56 would just be an AR-15 your wish was fulfilled lol.

[@SnoopReddogg]

AR-10 in 280 Brit would've been the best of both worlds.

[@ironmaidenforever665]

Will you be doing a special episode on AI's history and why they where shut down?

[@charlesadams1721]

Alter Eggo; perhaps but as I remember from the talking to people involved in international relations during the period, in general terms it was far more likely to be a left-right event as every good leftist in western governments were doing their best to help the revolution is every way possible.

[@mononix5224]

Around that time the left developed the guns are the devil mentality, I disagree with that (I'm Dutch). But our armed crime rate is quite low so I'm fine with it xD

[@pieterveenders9793]

The whole Artillerie Inrichten AR-10 saga is an abomination. Apparently the Dutch government got pressured or manipulated into the production of AR-10's by the Americans. It was a horrible idea, because the amount of contracts they got for AR-10's was way too low, so much so that it bankrupted AI, and as a consequence was shut down. With that domestic firearms production for their own armed forces ended in the Netherlands, never to return again. Since then all the firearms purchased by the Dutch government for the Dutch armed forces were bought from foreign countries. So in my book, these AR-10's have a very bitter taste. Artillerie inrichten might have played a very important part in the development of the AR-10 (well not the actual development, but rather the improvement), and I have been told that some of the knowledge and experience from AI was then also used to improve the AR-15, but in the end the Dutch have too little to show for it, seeing as they're now without a national firearms producer.

[@randywatson8347]

Really cool collection. Bipod version is interesting. Seeying that Dutch manufacturing stamp on an AR10 it's a rare thing.

[@markw999]

Interesting that all of these changes, some of them pretty significant if you think about the internals, were able to be made in such a short time frame. I bet this would take a lot longer these days.

[@dutchman2205]

These rifles cost €2500,- here and still often used during high power matches due to there extreme accuracy

[@dutchman2205]

@JoelTheBeardSurvivor We can own everything we want.

[@dutchman2205]

@JoelTheBeardSurvivor no full auto. All the guns need to be semi only converted

[@dutchman2205]

@JoelTheBeardSurvivor I owned a genuine TRW 1963 USGI M14, and I bought it for €900,-. They only installed an M1 Garand trigger in it, and welded the selector in place to make it semi only

[@dutchman2205]

@JoelTheBeardSurvivor UK?

[@Stormcloakvictory]

Ik wil echt graag eens leren hoe je in Nederland in de schietsport kan komen, ben al een paar jaar zéér enthousiast, een AR-10 klinkt zeer aantrekkelijk. Heb iig al een paar jaar ervaring met een co2 luchtbuks ooit bij hes van Zweden gekocht.

[@thechongwolla]

If the British introduced that pre-SA80 wooden bulpup thing and the US this wooden M16 the aesthetic of the 20th century would have been 10/10 dark wood cladding

[@weirdsciencethe2nd205]

I got to shoot a weird 22wmr ar10 copy but it had exhibition grade walnut furniture and a rather tasty brass trigger shoe and a brass muzzle break and it had a leopuld optic on it so not really the same gun but this is its great great grandads cousin i was getting one hole groups at 100m but id put that to the walther lothar barrel its got its stunning 18inch of german perfection 12 grove with a perfect 30 degree crown lovely trigger too i think it was a volquatzen jobby but a good polish of the sears and a trigger shoe makes stock m4 triggers near mach grade anyway

[@rangefinder3538]

I also heard from various source's that the Finns were interested in the AR10 and several were made in 7.62x39 for their military. Can anybody confirm?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

It is true.

[@rangefinder3538]

Ian, see if you can get your hands on one of these. As we all know, you are the only one in the world who can. What a classic episode of Forgotten Weapons it would make!

[@Myrmidon26]

I find it interesting that the BCG was made heavier on the Portuguese version partly for the purpose of reducing recoil. AR BCGs today are lightened to reduce recoil.

[@plissken94th57]

The survivalists rifle from New Vegas, in the honest hearts DLC is more than likely based off the earlier versions of the AR-10, I feel like the service rifle is a combination of both the m16 and AR-10

[@arnbo88]

Thank you so much for profiling the Sudanese AR-10 which was my very first rifle back in Canada back in 1983 and I contributed to the AR-10er magazine publication back then. I think that I may still have the waffle magazines somewhere...I wonder if they're worth anything? I've also used the Cuban model which is sometimes referred to as the civilian model due to a lack of a bayonet. There were numerous changes and parts interchange in those days. My Sudanese had Arabic markings but the bolt carrier was more like the Portuguese model. You forgot to mention that the Sudanese model also had a fluted barrel in order to reduce weight and aid in cooling. The real cool part was the first bayonet which featured a tool kit in the handle including a corkscrew and gas adjustment tool. At the front of the front site post are two tiny little holes. This is how you adjust the gas system in a Sudanese AR-10. Can you please do a review of the original "Squareback" AR-10 with the tomato can muzzle brake? I once saw an example of this in the NRA museum in Washington D.C. Thanks again.

[@remy6978]

they weren’t fucking around back then, .308 is so heavy and god i love that round. the reason i favor 6.5 grendel is only because it shoots flatter then .308

[@PenguinInTheHat]

Please can you either cover or recommend a channel that provides information on the manufacturing process of guns and for early cartridges the chemical composition of primers and the explosive parts of cartridges

[@robbytheremin2443]

What do you think about the newer DPMS pattern AR-10? I own a couple. One in .308 and the other in 6.5 Creedmoor and I love them. If you are ever in southwest Missouri you are welcome to shoot them.

[@hendo337]

I LOVE the trigger like charging pull handle in the carry handle, I'd love to have an AR15 made that way.