Everything wrong with our newest project car - E63 M6 S85 V10

We said we'd never buy another one of these, but here we are... Introducing the latest Evolve Project Car, an E63 M6 with the legendary S85 V10. Legendary for both the noise it can make and how unreliable it can be.
This M6 has 121k miles on and turned up on a recovery truck.... We've never even driven it! So just how bad is it? We get it in the workshop to find out if this is a great buy or a huge mistake.
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[@THEDOPEYDAISY]

This is a small list of what I want to see on this M6. Full DCT conversion EVENTURI plenum and intakes Ask MSS to make a HAS kit Custom BILSTEIN shocks by EVOLVE Eisenmann exhaust EVOLVE headers GTS software for DCT EVOLVE stage 2 ECU calibration I’m waiting patiently.

[@ralphpeiris5996]

I had a 2006 BMW M5. I loved the car. When I heard about the VANOS problem and it would cost $15k, it was listed right away to make way for the 2017 BMW M3. I still have fond memories of that car. My kids grew up with the car and I went to my Dad’s funeral in that car. Kudos to you guys taking on this project .

[@kgill3734]

First time hearing of a vanos problem resulting in spending 15k

[@The_North0]

You are making things up. Doesn’t cost 15,000 for vanos issue. My m5 has 170,000 miles

[@kgill3734]

@@The_North0 exactly what i was thinking like thats my first time hearing that

[@brucewayne2397]

I had one of these approved used from bmw 2008 model.. it blew up😂.. injector stuck open and caused £46,000 of damage (new engine, cats, injectors etc etc etc).. bmw warranty did something they never do and offered me an alternative payout of £22k at the time (2k more then what i paid them for the car) to let the car go which i accepted lol

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Injectors are definitely on the list to change!

[@str675r5]

@@EvolveAutomotivewill you replace them with original from BMW or is there alternative? I know there were Bosch but these are no longer available 🤔

[@Danb3123]

Would also like to know this

[@MrLIVELINESOLUTIONS]

​@@str675r5 they were revised later

[@damndawg123]

@@EvolveAutomotive As the others asked, is there any other injectors you can get that dont get stuck open ?

[@CMOVlogs]

6 years ownership and counting 🙌🏾 looks identical to mine when i got her! Great work guys

[@9595david]

What have you done to yours over that time and how many miles? I REALLY want to get into s85 ownership. Currently have a 997 turbo. Just curious what to expect!

[@СевдимАбдуллаев]

Please do a DCT gearbox swap

[@Tweed58]

You spelt manual wrong

[@EvolveAutomotive]

DCT swap coming. Hopefully 😅

[@EvolveAutomotive]

​@@Tweed58DCT looks right to me

[@Tweed58]

@@EvolveAutomotive DCT is great. I've seen a few people now running a clutch pedal with DCT. it does look like early stages of development but still impressive.

[@The_North0]

I like smg better.

[@alanoliver379]

What I spotted in the Video I was more Interested was the Red Golf Rallye. I had one between 2000-02. Great Car. So regret selling it😢😢😢😢

[@Mr1974tps]

amazing project, would love one, keen to see how you get on :D

[@muhammadrezasadeqi2919]

As always Great technical video.! Exact thing that we want to see, I'm following your channel from IRAN. Wish the evolve team the best ❤

[@kwtreecare4023]

Owned one 3 years no issues, drove it hard every time once warmed up I think them being unreliable is a bit overstated now, a friend had one a similar amount of time same story as me. OE injections being discontinued puts me off having another

[@ChrisGil94]

That torch made me laugh 😂

[@Hassan-qf7rs]

💙 the T Shirt 🍉

[@DaleSteel]

We owned e60 m5s at same period

[@Tzhz]

The ultimate E60 M6 project I would take up if I had the money would be a Judd V10 engine swap

[@akifmemolex4662]

Keep it up love that S85 content 😀😀😀

[@Lowa10100]

the window error means it’s need a new window regulator that’s happen to be new regulator and no more issues

[@pedrofly100]

Yes yes yes

[@michaelgoodwin593]

Hang on what's that GR86 doing tucked up there?

[@michaelgoodwin593]

I've wanted one before but never had the balls to run one.

[@shredder1uk]

wow

[@alexbryant5]

how do you re laquor the roof when they fail?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

With a very competent bodyshop, it’s not cheap to do correctly. Another car we looked at the roof lacquer had failed and honestly we just did not want that headache.

[@Benko_DieseL]

You should make the worlds fastest s85 v10

[@EvolveAutomotive]

A company in Norway have made a twin turbo S85 that produces 1851hp, I think we’ll leave them to it 😅

[@Benko_DieseL]

@@EvolveAutomotive Wow cool,then make it to around 1000hp street legal,would be very hard to do and very interesting

[@hardcoreep]

Lol, you've turned into Mat Armstrong

[@beo7095]

such a beautiful car

[@darrenboston342]

To be honest that’s not a bad list on a 16 year old car! Deffo 4x Michelin 4S tyres, rod bearing, power steering pipe, new under tray, diff seal & some rubbers.👍 Can’t wait for this project to get going.👊

[@T5RKID]

love the shirt!

[@husseinosman8017]

Imran, I'm glad you've finally adopted the long vid approach! Your channel is eminently watchable

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Thanks! Truthfully we do not set out to make a video a specific length, they are the length required to fit in all the information, this one had a lot in it so it's longer. They're fun to do but we would never unnecessarily pad a video out just so that it is longer.

[@primavent1]

With a cool build like this, the V10 Evolve headers are a MUST!

[@robertdesmond3516]

Great to see some E63 M6 content, looking forward to the next instalment

[@GLH8]

29:20 PowerSteering line probably goes all over as it was designed as a left hand drive first, and rhd was compromised.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Very possibly!

[@mista5796]

With regard to the throttle actuators. The root cause of them failing is overloaded circuit boards caused by the motor working harder than it should because the heat of the engine dries out all the pivot points of the linkages that connect the throttle actuators to the butterfly valves on each throttle body. The whole mechanism becomes dry, stiff and squeaky. It’s important to lubricant all the joints thoroughly when you replace the throttle actuators, so the whole mechanism can move freely - otherwise the new actuators will just be working too hard and they’ll fail prematurely as well. People mistakenly think worn plastic gears inside the actuators are the root of the problem, but they aren’t.

[@bradcollins4114]

Just rip all of those shitty PZeros off the car and change to Michelin PS4S - the Pirellis are utter shit. Great car by the way!

[@hovnojede010101]

Not all P Zeros are the same... the current PZ4 tyres are much better than whatever they had beforehand.

[@bradcollins4114]

@@hovnojede010101 those are old style pzero on the car that are utterly awful. In my f13 M6 I couldn’t get grip in 4th in the wet. With PS4S I mostly get grip in 2nd and always hook up in 3rd. In my country the PZ4 is more expensive and I just don’t see why anyone would try one over a Michelin

[@SydDante]

The most engaging camera man on youtube. Might even say he's distracting but we'll take what we get lol

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Can’t decide if engaging is good or distracting is bad 😅 Wanted to try and bring a bit more of a natural conversational style to this series but happy to hear feedback.

[@pk93cov]

​@@EvolveAutomotivejust seems like a dad teaching his son about mechanics n I mean that with respect

[@Luke_90s]

Completely agree, feel like Aston was the one being inspected not the m6 even though he is the one with a lot of experience

[@LCOF]

He does like a natter 😀

[@djgandy]

Can you really put a price on how it sounds though?

[@pk93cov]

Dont seem a bad example tbh, look forward to the series on this one

[@juliusperseus8612]

Can't wait for the DCT swap potential, And Everything Else on this Particular car. Love the E63 M6 !

[@Stanislav7180]

V10 legend❤❤❤

[@trimby]

If the trapped-finger sensor on that car is anything like the E39, it won't stop the window going up by pushing down on the glass; you need to push up on the rubber at the top of the window frame ie. simulating where the glass is heading.

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Interesting info, we’ll try it out

[@mintech1000]

I could never own an m5 knowing that this thing is out there!

[@sishabadab6570]

Just bought an OG 2017 M2.. Looking at your parts catalogue..

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Amazing cars! 🙏🏻

[@simjean84]

Finally some E63 content! This is the forgotten ugly sister of the M5 lol but when you dress it up you take a second look lol

[@ebewarrior]

Love the t-shirt free free.... You legend

[@mvp_kryptonite]

Can’t wait for this build!! Love the look of those rear lights when the car 1st launched. Didn’t know a competition was available either. What about an infotainment & audio upgrade?

[@DownShiftThrottle]

Lovely S85 M6! Always loved E60 M5 and E63 M6!

[@BengalOscar]

Aston is the man!!

[@chrisp4899]

This will be a good build series

[@jeremiahex]

As an E60 M5 (2), and E64 M6 owner…. Finally! I’m a subscriber and been waiting for you to do content on the S85 platform. Please, please… fill the gap Bosch left; create your own, Upgraded Fuel Injectors for the S85. I would buy 30.

[@pedrofernandez687]

your shirt bro - is everything

[@JurisKankalis]

Pretty clean example of a crazy car - who knew a 1.7 ton (or something) passenger car needed 10 cylinders... Or 10 cylinders and two turbos - in case of the C6 generation RS6 audi. Crazy times! Either way - general BMW-ness for the car aside - I would highly suggest not using any torque/electric tool on the bottom cover 8 mil screws. I have a 2012 F11 in a generally decent condition - but about 5-6 of these screws were broken off at the head - after I purchased the car. All the undertray covers are kept well in place even with these broken off (depending where the broken ones are located, of course) - but all the screws should no doubt be there, and they're a terrible pain to extract once they break off. Use a small manual 8 mm socket instead - try to be gentle on them. Most of them are threaded into steel clips - which CAN be accessed from the other side and hit-ted with WD40 or something better, aiding in unbolting. Care should be exerted here - and no electric hi-torque tools. For some reason they rust right below the head - which of course is the stupidest place for them to rust, but don't forget it's a BMW. The screws can be replaced only by original BMW screws, part number for my F11 is OE-07149213164. All similar (BUT NOT EXACTLY THESE) screws will cross-thread and ruin the fastener/steel clip. They cost just below a euro a year ago when I bought tons of them, and then I spray-painted them - just to be sure I've done all I can to prevent them for rusting. Another trick is to pack some thick grease (we have Solidol here in Latvia) in and around them when fastening - just to give them that much of a fighting chance. Otherwise nothing to add to the video. Well done for the purchase - long-time viewer from Latvia.

[@AA97868]

Love the informative video. Looking forward to the next one Imran!

[@ravitaheem4272]

Imran i purchased a new e63 M6 back in Oct 2005, had SMG Pump, Vanos Solenoids, I drive issue from day one, BMW replaced it a year later and guess what the new one was even worse, loved the sound track though

[@eoinkenny8603]

I bought my 2007 E63 ///M6 of Pistonheads in July 2011. I never intended using it as my daily so there is currently 27,000 miles on my car. I have an Evolve flash on the ECU since 2012 . I imported my car into Ireland. My car is in a dehumidified garage with a cover over it so it is like new. I look forward to seeing the results of your project.

[@TheMcinto65]

Can you tell me what fault code reader you use please?

[@EvolveAutomotive]

In this video we use an Autel diagnostics tool

[@paulmichael3844]

Brilliant video lads

[@Jaaved_M]

Great video

[@paulpateman6723]

Awesome car Imran can’t wait to see what you are going to do with it I also like you did not know they did a competition version 🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍

[@darylmorse]

It's a pretty decent car for its age. Looks like you picked a good one! Looking forward to watching and also hearing it once you change the intake and exhaust.

[@hovnojede010101]

Oh, it's one of those weird interim cars with iDrive CIC controller but the old CCC system!

[@CovKid2K10]

It’s so strange right!

[@metalmorononhighway]

Bmw's is crazy weird. There's pre lci, pre pre lci, lci and new new lci 😂

[@jovaneghtesadi1494]

Love the S85, looking forward to watching this beast progress.

[@duncanmacloud9092]

Full bmw service history - sealant on a sump drain bolt HAHAH 😅

[@davidsinn5758]

I had an e63 6 series, the electrics were shocking and a constant nightmare. Next gen f12 was much better

[@jsj555]

Cant wait to see this project get going! Looking forward to the before and after once the exhaust is done.

[@Lost_investor888]

Great video! I love watching this and the high mileage E-92 videos.

[@AsadMulla]

Steering angle fault. Drive the car and the fault will go

[@hamie63_m]

I'll take the credit for convincing you to get this project car

[@TheNorthernmunky]

Everyone needs a pal like Aston! 👍🏼👌🏼

[@tim1king]

Looking forward to driving it ☺️

[@frankwampamba4850]

Hi Imran, can you help me bring an e31 - 840ci back to life?? Cheers.

[@EvilUSEmpire]

I owned 2007 645, worst car ever owned, nightmare.

[@manosoteliosathanasakis469]

M6 has hydrolic streering 🧏‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@DoubbleAgent]

LCI M6!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 @junkm6

[@AaronAclasS]

M4 x drive 1500 bhp

[@TommyPickIes]

Great video , lets see what you guys do next

[@jensduhem8904]

Dry ice clean this Imran!!!

[@adammoonface]

The e63 M6 has always intrigued me. They are hardly discussed and yet people put the e60 M5 on a pedestal... I'm here for this! Any plans to do something with wheels once you have the B6's on there?

[@christianpadilla2928]

Owned for 6 years, amazing car. Just get a clean one.

[@JohnNick72]

Really useful content! Thanks

[@Kh.J.]

🫡 for that T-Shirt ✌🏻

[@tegjez4864]

Awesome vlog

[@str675r5]

@EvolveAutomotive can you pls provide part number for these alloys? Looks much nicer compare to ''normal'' styling 167 😉

[@EvolveAutomotive]

36112283850 + 36112283860

[@str675r5]

@@EvolveAutomotiveThank you :)

[@Broke2FastGarage]

Where can I get that 🍉 hoodie?

[@etonthompson5175]

Please don't do the fast forward edit

[@CovKid2K10]

Ngl the camera man needs to pipe down and just record 😂 let Aston the expert do the tech talk

[@Racecarlegends]

Headers?!!! Manifolds man we are English don’t you know 😂😂😂

[@EvolveAutomotive]

I do know, I also know we have a very large US audience.

[@rdrrua]

please slap EISENMANN exhaust on it!

[@shuweb]

You have to do a MANUAL CONVERSION!

[@EvolveAutomotive]

There will be no clutch pedal in this car 🤫

[@bmw_m4_alpinewhite]

DCT conversion, NICE!@@EvolveAutomotive

[@shuweb]

@@EvolveAutomotive Didn’t USA have a manual version, appreciate lhd and rhd might be an issue… or there is defo a manual M6 V10 for USA markets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZmxfYOLm7dgesksi=upqo9mIpm0GAwGpg would love to see that as I’m guessing it’d be a ball ache to do 😂

[@shuweb]

There was M6 manual available in USA… I guess the right to left might be problematic tho

[@DomWayne]

I thought you would’ve known these came in Competition spec, they’re damn rare though. Trying to find a LCi one myself, not easy to come by

[@paulbarnes7146]

Bought this from BCA.. Was bidding on this exact one.. 👀

[@LOCKERZZHAKK]

if you hit report on the autel after the full system scan, it shows all the codes rather than individually loading onto each module to read dtcs, time saver tip :)

[@2of2DCH]

"Escaped relatively scott free." HAHA what an intro!

[@diopsidem5]

Can we get E60 M5 evolve B6 dampers aswell please?=)

[@anidiotinaracingcar4874]

What happened to the clown shoe, man? I subscribed to see that one!

[@etonthompson5175]

Remember the front seal on the diff is leaking.

[@ainsmas361]

Love this uncut - long form type of video

[@tippyb8355]

It was wrong when it was built ha ha

[@jhop43]

Awesome content as ever!

[@AA-du5mg]

I can’t wait to see this DCT swapped

[@matthewnicholas6365]

I've just read something very interesting that I never knew. The S85 engine had at least 3 versions. Pre 2007, 2007-2009 and a final one in 2009. The list of changes is extensive, oil pan, oil drain(s) vanos gears, bearings, oil piston squirters, head bolts, and many more items. Any experience with these later engines? Are they less likely to eat themselves?

[@markusast4732]

2010 M6 Competition is running like nothing can hold it. 146.000km on the clock. Rod bearings done at 113.000. SMG and Throttle Actuators failed. Diff was replaced. Oil Cooler hose was leeking. That’s it. Best car!

[@tinorosmg9374]

Im here for it

[@mariusmeinhold2946]

German here. I didn't get what they said about the mile mismatch. What's with the difference?

[@AR-vh4et]

1000km

[@extroex7744]

Like the engine, not really the car. That engine in an M3 E46 or E92 is a dream

[@EvolveAutomotive]

Then do we have a video for you! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHjHlIWsntGirLc&pp=ygUKUzg1IEU5MiBNMw%3D%3D

[@Cyapow]

Just curious why Michelin over pirelli? My X5 came with pirelli next time I change them I might change to michelin though I probably don't go fast enough to tell the difference lol

[@EvolveAutomotive]

We haven’t had a good experience with them compared to competitors on multiple cars

[@gordoncrouch7766]

Michelin ps4s much better tyre than pirelli alot better grip and also.0.3 second quicker to 60 just with tyre swap