Evony - Relics... Get the most rewards by doing this!

[@samdehaan7394]

Great advice for relics For rss tiles load only reduces the number of troops required to clear it - extra troops gain no extra and it clears in the same time rss gathering skill Jindiok aiming at 2 rss types per general and gear them in the relevant kings gear to boost gathering speed - you can refine the gear for those rss gathering speeds too only cultivate her politics stat after all that a 7M tile clears in under 4 hours giving you a base rss haul of 9.8M - additional gain can be hit by having korean subs ( the better quality the sub the better the bonus ) Jindiok and korean bonuses do not apply to relics unfortunately

[@unclerawn4017]

the courageous king's ring can be refined to add troop load to the march speed for distant relics. just a thought

[@bliznickr]

Very good info bro thanx for posting this. My alliance & I learned a couple very important tricks to speed up relic hauls & bring them as close as 40km from the hive. You keep opening & abandoning them until you get one super close. We always have at least one less than 50km away. Then load up the relics with as many marches as possible. No need for lots of Relics open that will never get completed. We've had as many as 18 marches on one with 150M troop power complete an entire M-Relic in 24 hours

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Excellent input RB! We do this and it should be known to open until you find a close one. two purposes: 1. easy to get as many in there as possible to complete asap. 2. If you don't have time to send a march for relic but need to complete (2) for activity, it's close enough so you your troops get there and back and able to join more boss rallies...

[@PayneMaximus]

Level 1 siege (catapults) are the most efficient means of transporting load, because 1) they have the highest load-to-upkeed ratio, and 2) it has the lowest upkeep cost.

[@ivanr.1005]

I tested this and this is not correct. troop load just reduce number of troops to do same things like other generals. I sent 5 marches on 12 hours, in one march I had Attila. Attila when arrived reduced time from 12h to 9h30m but in the end I got less fragments then from 12h rellics. This just messing you up with time.

[@jayl6029]

Thanks for the tips I was actually just wondering about this. Perfect timing

[@bliznickr]

One more tip is that you will get a very good reward box for opening a Relic that gets completed. Got 100 medals or a bunch of 500K RSS boxes. Always something random like thief reward boxes

[@naimulsayed1339]

Troop load? for relics it may help to stay longer in the relic with less troops. But for an 1B+ keep load is not an issue. Even just 30M keep should have enough troops to fill 5 marches for gathering. Queen Jindeok you want to use. Not Timur. Timur helps to bring back more from plundering other keeps. But Jindeok brings back extra resources from tiles. Multiple timurs just for relics? seems to be an waste to me. Timur is best at looting resources from other keeps or alts. Timur can be used in alts for gathering if some alts lack troops and do not have Jindeoks. Even then, for alts its not that difficult to train some t1 siege and have enough troops to clear tiles. If queen jindeoks are not apearing in the tavern, there are few purple generals who is much better gatherers for gathering.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

I also do the same..1.5m T1 with jindeok, I think its the fastest...but I dont feel like wasting stamina to test it out

[@manmargourap]

I just bought Timur, leveled him up to Lv22, 5 stars, equipped as suggested in the video, and sent him to a relic for 11 hours. I'm more than satisfied, I got much more than before. I have six Jindeoks, but I'm keeping this Timur.

[@naimulsayed1339]

@@manmargourap timur brought more BCS he stayed more. He doesn’t bring more faster than anyone else. His load is more so that he can stay longer with less numbers of troops. Can be helpful for very small keeps or alters. Anyway big keeps need a timur too. To loot more in one hit.

[@smokelord2002]

@@manmargourap pretty sure jindeok doesnt affect relic gathering. You eant troop load for relic and jindeok for gathering. Im pretty sure relics are not considered gathering.

[@mrlon616]

​@@naimulsayed1339so queen j is good for relic? what skill book should i use for queen j?

[@donaldduck9884]

I was doing some math...t5 unit e.g siege vs t8...t5 will carry more load per upkeep that's really weird evony math there. Sincerely D Duck

[@blazonbyrd5996]

Evony really should throw you something (Gems, Refining Stones) for explaining their own game to their fans haha. Next video - teach us how you REMEMBER to change Monarch gear to Loyalty Horn every time you gather (palmface). I march w/ Justice or Courage on every time ha. Good stuff, Viri

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

I have to come clean Blazon, I don't remember all of the time which includes forgetting to change my monarch gear during pvp or BF (smh). I don't have the elixir you're looking for to remember to do those things. If you find it, pass some along :)

[@blazonbyrd5996]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 LoL - I hear ya. Last week I left Shajar on wall during Undead with gather gear on Monarch. I'll pass that elixir once found.

[@briiakarii]

Right though. Evony doesn't explain much of anything lol. Also blazons is a tough one for me to remember. There's so much to be on top of in this game with switching buffs, generals, and gear... It's easy to forget.

[@Paulenski]

Good info, but the application to relics is not correct. Relics are time based collection and the only thing that improves the results is the academy research. Relics have a fixed time to gather 1 slate/hammer, the academy research reduces that time. For example, lets say you get 100 slates in exactly 24 hours, thats 4.16 slates per hour. The research would reduce the time to collect, increasing your efficiency ( i believe it's like 20% for mysterious relic), this would up the slates per hour to 5, resulting in approx. 120 slates in 24 hours. Generals, troop types, refines, nothing else affects the drop rates or speed. Academy research has been the only thing to make a change.

[@zeck8541]

Your information about troop load is wrong. Sending more troops over the necessary duration to clean an relic or rss spot will not yield more returns than what you would get by sending the minimum for the minimum duration. You can test this if you don’t believe me. Test it on two rss spots of the same level. Send 20k more troops to one and the minimum to the other. You will bring back the same amount. Test it on a relic. Same results. Relics and rss spots contain finite amounts of collectable items. Period. The only difference is the bonuses your general may have for bringing back extra afterwards. Also, troop load is irrelevant. Troop load only matters if you don’t own many troops or your march sizes are too small in early game to be able to clear something in one go. Troop load helps in pvp for carrying more plunder, but it’s only something to use if a keep has been zeroed of troops already.

[@МаратМингалиев-н2в]

Thank you for video. I am live in Russia , play this game, love you video.

[@lraQ0]

Thanks man , this is what i was looking for

[@steenystuff1075]

Ooh! Good idea on that relic load! Thanks 👍

[@yusofalbukhari5501]

Thanks a lot ...can you explain more details about Alliance ... how I have my own Alliance from start flag and How I built up Alliance city in one day before flag destroy... thanks

[@neilgoldsmith5482]

Jinhdeok is the queen of rss gathering

[@neilgoldsmith5482]

No doubt Queen Jindeok gives you 60 % by her self of the amount that is collected. Go to Monarch glass and Horn use buff 20% increased troop. That will give you along with all troop load.

[@asifiqbal4095]

I find this totally opposite of what actually should be done. Normally a player should should focus on gathering speed and extra gathering buff. One should try to gather as much rss as possible in fastest possible way. That’s why Queen Jindeok is the one to choose with Korean sub and gathering speed and extra gathering gears set buffs. You are going for load which is not important at all, can only be needed for players in very small keeps who don’t have enough troops to send out. Any player over k20 should never look into load. Same way Amir tamur is a general should be used for plundering other keeps - not for farming.

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Hello ASIF, I appreciate your feedback. Although we can agree to disagree, you have good points as well. I'm only relaying what has worked for me and my generals to gain the most out of the relics and rss spots. Not everyone can have a Jindeok as I've acquired only one in the past year +. In addition, when speaking of relics, Jindeok is not your best gen to use. She is a RSS gathering gen whereas Amir by far has proven worthy of the rewards he's brought back compared to QJ inside relics Load is important for the amount you can haul. Speed 'can' be important too if you're limited to the amount of marches you have and want to use 'x' amount of marches to kill bosses. All in all, they're are several ways to achieve the rewards on the map, however it's how you identify each at the granular level for better success. Thanks again for your input :)

[@naimulsayed1339]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 Honestly, your keep looks decently powerful. You must have very high tavern. If you spend 100K to 200k gems (depending on luck) you should have 6 Jindeoks by refresing tavern with 50 gems.

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

@Naimul Sayed Thanks for your feedback. I personally believe Evony algorithms work against spenders and non-spenders alike but in opposite ways. I've been playing for 13 mos and finally got my first Jindeok 10 mos into game, however I have several Baibars and Amirs. Several non-spenders have many Jindeoks but cannot get a Baibars or Amir as I have. I've spoken to many on both sides of fence and this seems to be the case. It doesn't mean it's 100% in stone, however circumstances seem clear that something is driving who you get as generals or not. Just my observation.... But I really wish I had more QJ's. No matter if I spend 800k at the tavern or not, I cannot seem to buy my way to QJ's heart (sad face)...

[@naimulsayed1339]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 that is sad. Even my alt have 5 jindeoks and 5 baibars with tavern lvl 28 only. Of course I don’t spend on alt. I even know a 0 spender who is yet to purchase his first pack. Got to K35 in 14 months. And has 6 jindeok and 5 baibars. Anyway hope you will get your QJs soon. But focusing on troop load with refining on gears seems to be waste of refine stones. I only refined my kings gears (only weapon and helmet) for gathering speeds. If I use all 6 marches to gather I can gather approx 500M rss per day. Speed and bringing back extra rss are the key. Load is useless.

[@UWAIS_941]

FIRST 😂 I ALWAYS WRITE AND TYPE IN CAPS, SO I'M NOT YELLING I'VE BEEN PLAYING 5 MONTHS, HAVE 5 QUEEN JINDEOK, ALL WITH A MIX OF KING'S AND CHAMPION'S GEAR (BASED ON THE TYPE OF RSS SHE IS GEARED FOR) STARS ⭐ AND REFINEMENTS ON ORANGE AND PURPLE GEAR IS A COMPLETE WASTE TIMUR, WITH TROOP LOAD SKILL BOOKS, SHOULD BE USED TO PLUNDER RSS FROM CITIES ALL MY JINDEOK ARE LVL 29 AND I CLEAR 7 MILLION TILES IN 4 HRS 20 MINUTES, SO TROOP LOAD IS USELESS

[@ScofaUK]

I did something similar, but i much preffer a 24hr turn around so ditched it.

[@ronnellecambridgeandshyale6297]

You get the same amount of hammers and fragments when you gather from magical/mysterious relics. With all others, there's a difference

[@DG-mk2nr]

Do general stats matter for relic collection? I have Attila who has the 75% troop load buff, but his politics is lower than Queen Constance by 100. (She has 20% load buff).

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

General gear helps and always good to have higher stats by cultivating gens. Queen J and Amir are who I use.

[@elaykyut5095]

So as a young player, didn't want to spend money and don't have Amir. I can use Attila for Relic?

[@randibrammeier6701]

Do you have a video on the 6 levels for the relics that's at the beginning of the game? You have to find 6 relics by clicking on a dude standing below the Keep. I can't figure out the 1st level to save my life. Lol!! That's pretty darn sad, I know. I just can't figure out how to get my guy over the fire when there's nothing to block it. Thanks!

[@krisyallowega5487]

I feel now that with the recent updates not everyone will see the same thing. As most of the updates were not done globally but Server by Server. I am afraid that any Gathering General used for Relic Exploration is wasteful because the only way to complete a Relic is with Alliance Assistance. The more armies the better. To attain more valuable goods is through Mastering Relic Exploration Research. There may be differences in Generals used, troop levels, and gearsets. But I am afraid to using troop load, troop size, or any buff is not required, save them for gathering sites. If all a player wants are hammers and tiles then there is no benefit to opening Mysterious Relics as their only interest is in the possibility of attaining an Epic Historic General. There are more valuable items in Mysterious Relics and the timeframe is 3 days compared to the 5 or 6 days for the levels 1-5. At least this is what I am seeing on my Server.

[@Blackdog4818]

How did you learn to do all this stuff. I've been playing about a month, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I don't know how to get diamonds to speed things up. 1,000 a week isn't near enough. It says I'm at level 12, with 288,000 "power" but when I fight a Level 2 Red Cap Boss I get killed every time and the internet says they're at 219,000 with 20,000 troops. I used 18,800 troops and siege weapons and lose every time.

[@odhynacarlos7535]

i have 1 question is there any effect the amount of players staying inside the relics on the amount of resources you will get? because i of my alliance member got angry and left our alliance because more members where on the same relic he was staying. he is claiming that the more players on the relic the lesser time he got to get resources and the lesser resources he may collect actually its a mysterious relic. i do hope you could clarify this to me

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Hello Odhyna, yes is the simple answer. Relics are like the alliance mine, over time they will deplete. The # of players inside the mine/relic will determine how quickly it completes. I would open only multiple mysterious relics in your alliance so everyone can choose one at any time.

[@troyklesick4566]

We have started the bigger players sitting out every 3 or 4 svs so the smaller players or players without wings can have a chance to get them. Hyde server 463 IMK

[@Angluar]

does relic is opened only when player uses scroll item? (or can be opened naturally in field without scroll-item?)

[@duwanmorrison2492]

In order to own the relic, a player must use their scroll to open one. It's like using a key for a sub city. If someone goes into a random relic, he/she will be stealing from an alliance that owns that relic but either left it, or hasn't gone into it yet.

[@dougcarter4466]

Thank you

[@ScofaUK]

Most important thing not covered, that is to research mysterious relics to get the maxium, im getting in 24hrs what thia guy is getting after 3days

[@crawdady2837]

Unfortunately the relics evony has taken away some of the good generals that was in the relics and now you gotta get him in the tavern so the relics are OK but not to me for generals cause you get the same generals all the time

[@Blackdog4818]

How do you get a "star" on a General?

[@GOASTWRITTER]

Is there any general best for relics?

[@its-preeti]

Should we put troops load skill book in Amir general ?

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

I don’t believe you can add troop load to Amir. He already comes with that buff.

[@mikep509]

What determines the rewards you get in the relic chamber once opened? is it random?

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Hi Mike, yes random rewards. the longer you stay though, of course more rewards.

[@mikep509]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 .... but once you open a chamber, despite being there for 4 hours of 4 days, the chamber itself with 25 tiles/25 hammers will give a random set of rewards correct?

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

@@mikep509 You still get random rewards based of Evony Algorythms. That's with almost everything within the game except purchases.

[@askoldshegedyn3365]

Not sure the assumption about load and relic are correct. This did not help me. I think it may be random that you got more hammers and tiles.

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Hello Askold, one thing is for sure, there’s nothing random about this game. Evony has precisely thought out every aspect to get the most for them. Make sure you are comparing apples to apples when running your tests in relics. Also, video just came out yesterday, that’s not enough time in a relic to see the advantages.

[@askoldshegedyn3365]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 Tried this overnight after your video. I am a lower level player k22 at this point,. I use Constance as my gatherer. I updated the equipment for increasing troop load. probably around 40% more load after upgrading the equipment as well. Sent to mysterious relic. after 6 marches I see not much difference. There were perhaps more other rewards but for slates and hammers it was the same about 25-27 for each. Perhaps your troop size for march is higher. Mine is about 120,000. I send level 1 catapults. I send Lucy out as well as Ghengis Khan and not much difference. Maye more differences at higher levels?

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

Hello @@askoldshegedyn3365, I appreciate your input. Do yourself a favor and go to your siege training. Click into each type of siege from level 1 up to your maximun level. When you look at load, what do you find? You mentioned you send level 1 siege.... you're mimizing the load aspect of your gathering. If you use your maximum level siege, you will find greater rewards. Please try this equivalently to your level 1 march along with time and then let me know your results. I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[@askoldshegedyn3365]

@@evonythronetimewithviri5709 It will take some time but I will try. Using low level catapults since upkeep is basically nil and I am trying to grow to k25 to then be able to participate in somebboss killing and start minor pvp.I know that is not your pov but there seems to be a minimal level you need to reach to be able to actually play the war part of the game. I will build some higher level seige and try it out. Will let you know details of it working or not. Thanks - Askold

[@IamEnygma]

@@askoldshegedyn3365 I agree, no point in engaging in PvP when below k25. You will suffer. In fact, I'd recommend K27 so you can access tier11 troops.

[@Evony_Insider]

This video was surprisingly incomplete, and that's putting it mildly (it's actually kinda bad). Especially the part that shows different gear adding load or extra resources. The HUGE omission here is that to get these extra numbers one has to make the WHOLE SET and not just a ring or the boots. Also every set is compiled from different pieces. Some sets need 3 pieces while other sets need 5 etc. This video was far from the best on the topic sorry to say. Look for something else in the matter.

[@talkissheep]

Omfg another amateur night account.

[@evonythronetimewithviri5709]

You’re right 😂 was a few years ago when I didn’t understand ‘load’. Anyways, thanks for the feedback. BTW… not an amateur nowadays. 😉