Hyundai Ioniq 5 vs. Toyota bZ4X: Electric Showdown

[@EVPulse]

Want to see full reviews of either of these products? Ioniq 5 full review ➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6qWqZitdriWg5o Toyota BZ4X AWD review ➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWrCamSkbNd8fKc

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Well i was at local dealer yesterday and i see myself the Ioniq single motor RWD - long range battery (310 miles ~ 500 km) is more affordable than dual motor (around 43.000 $) also single motor ioniq 5 has a bigger deeper space boot in front to get like 2 backpacks and a deep cooled glove-box.. Ioniq cabin also feels more simple smart & clever, Bz4x is just spacious but complicated, not all spaces are practical & usable as in Ioniq 5, otherwise cool comparison..

[@COSolar6419]

I was initially dubious of the I5 door handles. After driving it for 16 months I have say they work just fine.

[@EVPulse]

That's good feedback. Not to sound like a luddite they just feel so gimmicky when we only spend a week or so with car. Glad they hold up.

[@EDUAROSOLAS]

I have the 2024 bZ and love it, especially with the discounts Toyota is offering nowadays. Zero complaints

[@begley09]

I've been looking at getting one, I may go look at one that is a front-wheel drive added options and it has 18,000 km on it and the dealership is asking 37,000 CAD

[@alanpeterson6768]

If you are going to compare price, try comparably equipped vehicles. Starting price on an Ioniq 5 is $41,450: less than the comparable bZ4X. Even that is not areal comparison. The slow charging, short real range bZ4X is a town car or second car at best. The Ioniq 5 is an all around vehicle fit for commuting or travel.

[@EVPulse]

You go to war with the army you have not the army you want. Those were the trims we had access too. Our conclusions match yours regardless of trims.

[@alanpeterson6768]

@@EVPulse Yes, I understand that: do the best you can with what you've got. I did not mean to criticize your comparison as you did explain the difference in trim levels and gave a fair review. My objection was only to the piece at about the 11:30 mark which seemed to characterize the bZ as a less featured, but more affordable option when in fact an Ioniq 5 with comparable or superior features can be had for the about the same or maybe less money. In my opinion, there is no trim level where a bZ4X is a better option in anything but subjective appearance points. It's really a primitive EV for this time. Thank you for the review and response!

[@EVPulse]

@@alanpeterson6768 Agreed. And yes, you make a good point. I do personally wish it was easier to get similar trim vehicles, though, because it would make the coverage even better. - Chad

[@marcbjorg4823]

The Ioniq 5 is a town car as well, but you can charge it much faster when you do a long drive, which saves a lot of time.

[@alanpeterson6768]

@@marcbjorg4823 I have over 17,000 miles of out-of-state travel in the last 15 months with my 5. It's really a great road car.

[@JandCDoodles]

I own a bZ4X, there is a radiant heater where the glove box would be. I do enjoy that feature. It's nice in the cooler Spring evenings.

[@michaellippmann4474]

Interesting comparison, I have the exact same Ioniq 5 you reviewed in the same Cyber Grey...we love it! No complaints at all...we came from a Kona EV that we had for 10 months and 48,000 km. Not sure the Toyota is on the same playing field...disapointing as we have been Toyota owners for many years but Toyota seems to be EV deniers...the BZ4X is a decent looking car just not a very good effort! Thank you for doing the video. Mike

[@EVPulse]

Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Always great to know there are real people out there in KZbin land :)

[@jbmop]

Sweet another drop! Keep’em coming Craig!

[@EVPulse]

Thanks! Will do!

[@davidmccollum7204]

I've had my Ioniq 5 Limited trim for about a month. When charging to 100%, estimated range usually is around 300 miles. Once it showed 314. When charging to 90% and using eco mode, range is 280+. Eco mode uses just rear wheel drive; normal mode uses rear wheel and adds front wheel as needed; sport mode uses AWD all the time. A problem for me with the door handles - I sometimes forget to lock the doors when I walk away ( I used to have a Tesla and walking away automatically locked the doors). All four door handles stick out when not locked, advertising to the world that anything in the car is free for the taking. The car is otherwise wonderful. Just don't try to read the owner's manual and expect to get anything useful. The translation is horrible/hilarious and the content is poorly laid out. Watch the videos instead

[@avdp9095]

We have a Bz4x in our businessfleet, Netherlands. The Bz4x has had very negative reviews by the press. I really, really don't understand, we are very happy with the BZ. 10 years warranty Small battery pack, so not an obese weight, 200 up to 400kg less than competition; Very quit, comfortable and solid build; Yes, you cann't fast charge the battery like the competition, with a reason.....it gives the battery much more reliability and longer life.; This Toyota is build to last more than 10, 15 years.... . The computition has only the lease period in mind, 5 or 6 years or so, total different approach. So yes, we are happy with the Bz4x, far better car than the Model Y Tesla in our business fleet. Maybe the Tesla is a better Bev, but thexworst possible build and not comfortabel at all..... .

[@jonathanfields4ever]

What are you talking about? It has a smaller battery than either the Ioniq 5 or the Model Y, but it’s almost the same weight as both of them…

[@BondiBeache]

Because Japan is lagging behind in battery technology. BZ4X uses Chinese batteries. In China, the LFP method is ahead in low-cost batteries, but Korea is ahead in batteries that require NCM technology. BZ4X uses Chinese NCM batteries, so it doesn't have China's strengths, Japan's reliability, or Korea's technology.

[@misaelramos83]

Im enjoying my bZ and noticing after only having it in the colder parts of the year that it gets MUCH better, higher than advertised efficiency when it's mild out. Yeah I replaced a hub cap for $170. Now no one knows I screwed up 😂 Very easy to do. I kinda feel like I under estimated the car at first. I guess it kinda does have poor cold weather performance at times. Mitigated with climate preconditioning. I'm enjoying it!

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Relieved to see the wheels on the BZ4X didn’t fall off. 😂

[@EVPulse]

Same!

[@john1701a]

An efficiency showdown would be interesting. Now that it's warm out, I'm seeing 5 mi/kWh from time to time with my bZ4X.

[@EVPulse]

We will put that on a “try to do list.” Thanks for the comment and watch!

[@misaelramos83]

Yeah my bZ loves when it's ABOUT to rain I get absurd efficiency. Low barometric pressure?? Lol yeah it's definitely much better in the warmer weather.

[@scubafrost2007]

I have the cousin of the Ioniq 5 which is the ev6 gt-line awd. At 32k miles and plenty of CT to Memphis TN trips it has been absolutely amazing. The door handles have been stellar even in the cold and ice. The HUD works perfectly and the fast charging gets up to 245 no problem. The one grip I have with the vehicle is that it doesn't auto lock when walking away. Today this should be a standard feature. Overall very happy with the car. looking to either get a Fisker ocean or a Blazer ev next year.

[@BioniqBob]

That might be done with an update. Tell them, can't hurt.

[@noneofyourbusiness2554]

Ioniq is a much better car. 58k is their high end. You can grab one around 45-50k, plus charging is much better and even faster than Tesla. Toyota has some work to do.

[@AndriesTom]

Comparing apples to peares: it's only normal that the Ioniq 5 AWD is more expensive than the BZX FWD... It couldn't have been that hard to mention the Ioniq 5 RWD price for a - as far as possible - comparable trim.

[@patrick7228]

I just can't understand how absolutely nobody can get close to the 100 or 150 DC fast charging number but Toyota still is able to advertise this?! It's crazy.

[@thekat-dg9fx]

80% of the bZ4X's shipped to the US are AWD, not FWD, and those of us in northern states basically cannot get the FWD, because they just aren't allocated to the northern states. The fastest I have ever personality seen the bZ4X AWD charge is 50-60 kW, and Kyle at Out of Spec only managed around 80 kW peak. It is pretty sad when my bZ4X at low state of charge was getting 53 kW on a 150 kW fast charger while the half full Bolt next to it was still getting 47 kW.

[@patrick7228]

@@thekat-dg9fx Crazy. Just seems like this level of false advertising wouldn't be accepted anywhere else. Maybe a fix is in the works. Just don't see how they can get away with this long term.

[@john1701a]

Take a look at results after the software update.

[@patrick7228]

@@john1701a Yes but that wasn't for everyone I believe. No update for North America.

[@john1701a]

@@patrick7228 The update is for everyone, starting with Japan & Europe. We are suppose to get it in the United States. I haven't heard anything with regard to mine yet (AWD Limited).

[@jameschim411]

Those fenders and rear quarters in black looks terrible, like as though it's damaged replaced painted in primer ready to paint to match the rest of the car😂

[@lchapman9324]

At less than 39% charge it took an 1hr 11 minutes to fully charge (used public DC charger). At home it never takes 9 hrs.

[@stephenwinter8892]

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video I understand that the kia EV9 will start @$55000 us dollars whenever it arrives here in Canada with the current exchange rate it's approximately $73000

[@aeronYTco]

10:30 What’s that black thing on the hood?

[@EVPulse]

Camera

[@BioniqBob]

4:53 Why are people always trying to close my hood?

[@markmiller6844]

Not sure why a head to head review. They're kind of a different class of vehicle, the Ioniq 5 AWD and highly optioned vs the BZ4X FWD and not highly optioned, plus the different price categories.

[@EVPulse]

Because we could? Technically they're in the same class of vehicle, just what was available to us was limited (as is the case with reviews like this). Also, in this case, the FWD is the only way to go on the bZ4X because the CATL battery performance in the AWD is terrible.

[@TMS5100]

because toyota themselves call the bz4x an ioniq 5 competitor in their own website and marketing materials? that's why.

[@NightRidah777]

I actually love the Ioniq 5 door handles. Have had it since Jan 2021. The one thing I hate though is it doesn't auto lock if left open. That gets annoying.

[@frfvipcom3994]

which one is larger❤

[@john1701a]

Limited Weather Package includes radiant heating. That's a infrared warming device located where the glovebox would normally be and under the steering-wheel. It is an awesome efficiency innovation other automakers lack.

[@EVPulse]

Indeed. Lexus RZ has it on both driver and passenger side, too.

[@ronaldrissel6665]

Comparing the top-of-the line Ioniq 5 Limited to a near-bottom-of-the-line BZ4X was not an appropriate comparison. Of course, the Ioniq 5 tests out better, at a significanlty higher price. Next time, let's compare similarly-equipped cars.

[@EVPulse]

We think Craig does explain the differences in trims to help in addition to preferring the FWD bZ4X to the AWD. Like all automotive review channels we are limited (no pun intended) by the cars we have access to.

[@skincareaddicted]

I cannot believe Hyundai is pricing above Toyota. Toyota is all quality and it shows in its careful releases. It never tries to beat others to a race, but goes the distance and beyond.

[@xenrin]

Considering the AWD capability, I'm surprised you didn't mention the Subaru Solterra which is nearly identical to the Bz4x (dumb name) but has AWD and 8" of ground clearance. Also, has Hyundai fixed their quality issues? I've seen numerous reports and videos of owners plagued with problems and selling their cars within a few months.

[@EVPulse]

The Subaru suffers the same problem as the AWD bZ4X, which is the absolutely horrendous charging speed. Both cars use the CATL pack.

[@michaellippmann4474]

Well we traded our 23 Kona EV In after 10 months and 48,000 KM...on an Ioniq5! The Kona was absolutely flawless, not a rattle or sqeek in the entire car and we used that car hard! So is the Hyundai quality good? We think so, who knows with the Ioniq, I guess we will find out as we drive a ton! 😅

[@strongbutgentle]

How can you compare an Ioniq 5 Limited versus a BZ4X XLE when the Limited version compares much better?! I can charge my BZ4X Limited (with the new software update) from 10-80% in a much shorter time! I can understand if you want a better comparison for the Ioniq 5 but I'm tired of people putting BZ4X down. This video is a perfect example, comparing a Limited model versus an XLE. Ive also observed that most reviews use the BZ4X prior to the software update. If you want a better comparison, use a Limited v Limited with the software update. Additionally, the BZ4X Limited has 20" wheels, not 18's! Lastly, the software update allows for a mileage increase to 242 miles from about 200 prior to the update. If you're going to do a comparison, how about making both vehicles on par!

[@EVPulse]

The software update hasn’t been made available to us to test yet. We test what we have.

[@akliluadumer9138]

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[@ceylontea5877]

You can find 2023 demos Bz4x,ariya and ioniq5 for 30 to 33k Usd.

[@bobw3677]

Why didn't you shut the hood?

[@EVPulse]

We were very pressed for time so having it unlatched makes it easier to open and close for repeat takes.

[@PaulHo]

Really big fan of all the Korean EVs, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder how/why nobody else is building in dashcams like Tesla's Sentry, for driving and parked encounters.

[@bigdi77]

I have ev6 gt with a Vantrue dashcam all around it’s always recording and you can’t tell it’s even there. Just the other day this ass hit my ev6 and told the cop it’s my fault I just showed the video. And the rest is history

[@PaulHo]

@@bigdi77 makes perfect sense since EV drivers are more city and suburban located, naturally around more drivers due to infrastructure, the dashcam function is an organic fit.

[@Nequetrefi11]

for the lack of features the toyota should be in the low to mid 30s. i wont get it at this price point. ioniq 5 looking great and priced great

[@ahmedabdulla2105]

You are amazing for your comparison thank you

[@sansabark]

I can see myself forgetting about the frunk and never using it.

[@PanosCharalambopoulos]

great review! why don't you have any reviews of the Tesla Model Y - 3 ? Who buys the bZ4X???

[@av_oid]

Government fleet buyers and idiots.

[@ALMX5DP]

Great review and comparison. Having the range buffer does sound like it can be very beneficial and the Hyundai does seem to make a really solid EV. Do you know if there is any data on average EV usage in terms of exceeding a radius from where you live or work? Just curious if the lower range EVs work perfectly well despite what many think about needing the extra range for road trips or whatever. I think it was on AoA that I heard he knew someone with a Tesla model S that had only ever used a Supercharger or DCFC once in so many years of ownership. Is the range/charging issue just that blown out of proportion?

[@EVPulse]

It's a complicated question. 80% of people, according to JD Power, charge exclusively at home or work. And like most people, EV owners drive to home and work a lot and not a lot of road trips. We fixate a lot on fast charging and public infrastructure because it's terrible and needs to be better, but most people aren't driving hundreds of miles at a time.

[@thekat-dg9fx]

The 20% who may occasionally drive longer distances, even if it's just once or twice a year, need to know that the bZ4X is not just a relatively slow road tripper, but actually unable to road trip beyond 400-500 miles at present in North America, because after 2 cycles of fast charging in 24 hours (a cycle is 10-80%), it significantly throttles fast charging. Toyota buries this in a footnote in their online FAQ, but don't spell it out in the manual, and salesmen don't know about this limit until their customers tell them. This is a problem.

[@michaellippmann4474]

​@thekat-dg9fx yep...The Ioniq5 is an amazing car and charges like a beast when road tripping!

[@BioniqBob]

@@EVPulse Agree, from a 2017 IONIQ owner. $1.20 to go 100 km.

[@danield.7359]

the Hyundai interior looks cheaper to me

[@johnshepherd2666]

thanks for this review(i never knew that Pee-wee Herman did car reviews) 😅😅😅

[@AlaaGhazala]

There are some other issues with the bz4x suspension system too, which are not immediately apparent. If you run into a curb, this thing is gonna get messed up badly. I once run my bz4x by a fairly low curb, driving 27 mph, and that knocked the steering column off center. They had to re-alight three wheels, for only one of them touching the curb. I mean seriously! The charging issue is a real problem. It pulls much lower power than any car I happen to park next, and it limits the charging to two times a day, which ruined my first long trip, and made me hate this freaking car.

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Toyota: Did a good job on the BZ4X, yes they did. So good they had to pull it off the market. Charging is fantastic ... for 2017. Does it even have battery preconditioning? Kind of important. Hate the big bar across the middle of the panoramic roof rendering it a non-panoramic roof. Hyundai: Their customers are guinea pigs for their software. Battery heater and heat pump did not provide sufficient battery heating - resulted in poor winter charging and many complaints.. Battery preconditioning was finally applied to the old 2022 trims that have battery heaters ... after over a full year in the hands of their customers. Very quiet. Very comfortable. HDA (highway driving assist) is pretty good but nowhere near Tesla's full self-driving. Charging speed is fantastic due to the 800V system. An actual panoramic roof with interior power blinds to block the sun when necessary. Summary: Unfair comparison since you could've chosen a rear-wheel drive spec'd Ioniq 5 version instead of the Limited. The Ioniq 5 is typically compared with the Tesla Model Y. The Toyota BZ4X is more in line with the new 2024 Kona EV. That would be a logical comparison.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

10:30 WTF happened here?

[@jasonwright1753]

Seems like a level comparison 😂😂

[@northwesttravels7234]

I test drove the BZ4X Subaru twin. The center console is a giant waste of space and will be a giant dust magnet. The mini panel and steering wheel combo is an ugly design and the wheel shaft elephant trunk like cover will be hard to keep clean. The back seat is very uncomfortable with hardly any padding or contour and very short bottom leaving yours hanging in the air. Very little storage in the back with the sharply angled rear window. The ride was good in the front. Center display was nice. It really looks like a rebranded Lexus and does not seem to reflect the image that Subaru has cultivated over the years. I would not take it on back roads. I don't see it holding it's resale value well. We have a Forester and been happy with the brand and were looking for an EV but this is very disappointing. I was very impressed by the EV6 interior layout, front seat area, but the Subaru/Toyota is just a cluttered mess.

[@francisdebriey3609]

There's nothing to compare : ioniq5 is one of the best EVs on the market, and the BZ4X is... garbage !

[@xutiantodd]

The price on Ioniq 5 is too expensive, it is good for you rich but not for the average people

[@knkweb]

Ioniq 5 is garbage!! The warranty coverage sucks! And expensive too. I got for Toyota BZ4!

[@lol-ge9bh]

Ioniq 5 will depricate quicker you’ll need a battery change sooner compared to bz4x

[@francisdebriey3609]

@@lol-ge9bh dream on

[@wiperdshandian1653]

Ioniq is garbage😂

[@jonathanfields4ever]

The BZ4X is arguably one of the worst EVs available today. The Ioniq 5 is arguably one of the best… what is this and how much money did Toyota give you?

[@tonyrock5313]

266 miles of range stinks!

[@lol-ge9bh]

Thats a a lot of range

[@avdp9095]

Bz4x far more reliable than the Hyundai......

[@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661]

The toyota looks way more cooler and the technology is way better

[@DyingSlow]

You forgot to mention that the Toyota will only allow 2 fast cherges in a row...so not good for any long trip. We were a Toyota family all the way,but when it was time to go EV we went Ioniq 5 2024 ultimate (we're in Canada)and then we decided to trade our Rav4 limited 2019 as a down payment and we got he Kona ultimate 2024 ev as our secondary car and we do not regret our choices...it is just incredible how lagging Toyota is in EV...at least 3 years..pity

[@martalli]

The bz4x is hot garbage from a company that can't even decide if EVs are a nonsense fad, or if Toyota's destiny is to have the best technology exactly 2 years from whatever year or is right now. The Ioniq is such a more serious vehicle.

[@knkweb]

Ioniq 5 is garbage!! The warranty coverage sucks! And expensive too. I got for Toyota BZ4!