EVs are LITERALLY making people SICK! 🤢🤮 | MGUY Australia

[@gravesclayton3604]

As a repair shop owner and mechanic, I have found that sunlight from about any angle behind you from your left to your right shoulder, puts a glare on the touch-screen making it impossible to see what's on it. Same with having the sun in your face, Dials, push-buttons & physical switches can be felt without your attention even leaving the road, and most also have detents for the various positions. The poke, tap, and swipe doesn't work very well, or sometimes at all when wearing gloves. It's all eye candy, and very unreliable compared to mechanical controls, with no tactile feedback at all. The whole interior of cars now is just one constant distraction after another with alarms, unanticipated auto-braking and lane-correcting motors that can overpower you in some cases. It is 'wokeness' in automobiles, disguised as 'safety'. All of this garbage is in non-EVs now. I don't even allow EVs on my lot for reasons of insurance, as well as personal and financial risk.

[@God_help_us]

I’m old school and only recently drove a loan car with lane correction..freaked me out…I want to be in control when I drive a car…hate modern cars with pointless gizmos…driving an 11 year old Mitsubishi SUV…never had an issue with the car apart from a recent body issue …that Mitsubishi fixed under warranty.

[@davidvanderklauw]

We have useless car designers and useless regulators. These dangerous designs should never be given a compliance certificate. Useless regulators appointed by useless politicians appointed by useless voters. When will it change?

[@matthewgodwin3050]

I prefer driving my 1981 Triumph Acclaim to these overcomplicated modern things. It has everything you need, and nothing you don't. No power steering, no electronic systems, no touchscreen, no gadgets, no nothing. And it's brilliant. You can feel exactly what the car is doing through the seat and wheel, you can operate everything by feel without looking away from the road, and best of all, I get over 50 mpg running carbs and condenser. And the car has never once failed to start or let me down. Simplicity rules.

[@TachyonDriver]

Exactly! Well said.

[@michaelvarble4392]

I started as a mechanic in 1967 retired 10 years ago so I missed all of this garbage. Give me a carburetor and a set of points and I can get you going quick fast and in a hurry. LoL my younger brother has been working at a Chevy Cadillac dealership for 40 years and he's about had enough of it. I really feel bad for you guys having to deal with this electronic disaster age. Great comment brother and good luck with the nightmare called ingenuity.

[@tonysheerness2427]

Electro magnetic forces is this why the WEF members in Davos would not use EV taxis?

[@melissasmess2773]

Don’t want to be sterilized by the magnetic pollution?

[@rapalaron6348]

I'm from Sweden and i remember that the first Volvo V70 that came out had the 12V start battery placed under the passengers front seat. Because of health risk Volvo had to move the battery to the back of the car. That was just a low voltage start battery. An EV driver and all passengers are sitting now on a high voltage battery pack that for some reason not should not be harmful 😂

[@przemekkobel4874]

I remember once there was some kind of investigation why people living near high voltage power lines or transformers are disproportionately more often getting sick (cancer). One of working theories was that strong electric field is creating area where various particles that would normally just dissolve or drop to the ground, keep floating in the air, and breathing the stuff gives such long term effect. And there's a ton of stuff we don't know about mid-range electric fields. EV is just a 400V mid/high power voltage converter operating on various frequencies, and people sit inside of it.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@rapalaron6348, when in the Air Force, I spent a lot of time in Land Rover Defenders. To refuel them, you lift off the seat cushion and unscrew the petrol cap below 😮😮😮😮!

[@JohnHughes2002]

I think this is because they regard the rapid refuelling capabilities of ICE cars as more secure and convenient than what BEVs have to offer.

[@marksumner9948]

They make me sick.. I don't even have one!

[@paulparoma]

That makes two of us.

[@tonysheerness2427]

Yes because we have been taxed to subsidise them. That is why I am sick.

[@benjaminJrabbit]

Luddites make me sick...

[@kevinrice7635]

Haha yeah 🤣

[@rapalaron6348]

I even start to hate them.

[@evwise8227]

Lithium batteries are very toxic , most people know that, but EMF radiation is a big problem

[@USACars-id3bf]

Large numbers of people driving EVs are reporting being Sick in the U.S. after drive

[@andrewbarker3210]

Exactly ... try getting some funding to do clinical studies on the largely ignored but, nonetheless, potentially significant negative health impacts of constant immersion in strong and varying electro-magnetic fields. I can guarantee you'd have more chance of being funded by the IPCC for a study proving increases in carbon dioxide is actually hugely beneficial and doesn't in any way control global temperatures or make for near future mega catastrophes .....

[@davidhamtaro]

People say don’t put your mobile beside your head when you sleep due to radiation. Imagine thousands of mobile phones wrapped around you in the ev.

[@1439315]

Term has been around well before 1992. In the (ahem cough cough) age of information.

[@jaykiller4510]

Yeah they got.money for that

[@rockeroller]

They are assuming the diagnosis. It might not be "motion sickness" , & instead be "electromagnetic radiation sickness".

[@Peter-pv8xx]

Don't tell the environmental wackos that, they'll accuse you of spreading Russian disinformation or something.

[@sebastianbauer4768]

Yeah, like vampires. They also have that, they get sick, turn to ash really, when hit by electromagnetic radiation emitted by the sun. I think trolls have something similar, though they turn to stone. Let’s keep the examples rolling, I feel like we are doing real science here.

[@aa-lk6jy]

I drove a prius for a year and a half and started getting ringing in my ears. I have other ice run cars so I drove my other 1 for a couple weeks ringing stopped felt normal again. Is it off gases / and or ultrasonic sound that makes animals sick too? Curious as I traded in thaT PRIUS AND GLAD I DID. mISS THE MILKEAGE BUT, NOT RINGING IN EARS

[@elk3909]

There is no such thing as em radiation sickness. Many tests have been done and the person claiming symptoms can even tell whether the field is present or not. Unless the have a visible or audible cue however.

[@RennieAsh]

​@@aa-lk6jythe electronic power control makes a high pitched whine. It's quite normal with controllers for electric motors. I doubt you got ringing from the actual car

[@yarrik701]

Well, maybe that's why you see EVs burning themselves to the ground, that's just the self-cleaning function, like on an oven.

[@jamesdallas1493]

😁😁

[@GazGuitarz]

The burning kills all germs and bacteria so when Elon finally drives it on Mars he will stay healthy. Not sure where he'll find the charging stations on Mars though.

[@gravesclayton3604]

Kinda like the Segway scooter that took it's CEO over a cliff!

[@gerardwood4059]

Lol.😂😂

[@MW_1535]

If you even made the slightest white to fact check this you’d know that gas powered cars catch fire orders of magnitude more often. Many of them every day and quite often in crashes. Almost never the case with an EV. But facts don’t support your narrative. This is like making fun of people who carry cell phones because some of them have been defective or damaged and catch fire. Are you a loser because you have a cell phone?

[@keegan773]

In the UK it used to be illegal to have a screen fitted in the eyeline of the driver because of the distraction it causes. It seems that common sense has been sacrificed on the altar of EV’s and net zero. If it’s illegal to use a ‘phone because of the distraction it causes then fiddling with an iPad whilst in traffic must cause the same amount of distraction. It’s double standards but if it fits the agenda it doesn’t matter.

[@heinzriemann3213]

There is no common sense left in the West. Be it climate, genders, nuclear war or the flu, the Western societies have lied to themselves for so long that they have literally gone insane.

[@michaeld5888]

You can see the immense cost struggles Tesla are having, as with any EV maker, with their minimalist bare bones internal design of what is still a £40,000 minimum cost car despite all the trumpeted price cuts. The fact there is no repeater screen in front of the driver as with any decent car is telling. I have multiple choices of screens with essential driver information within the steering wheel view a quick eye flick down in a car costing far less. Buttons on the steering wheel to quickly change the view also. This is where the speedometer would be anyhow pre digital. I rarely use the main central screen when driving.

[@stephenhowe568]

It is an offence to use a computer/phone when driving

[@rogerpearson9081]

Looking down while in motion is a good way of getting motion sickness... reading a book or...looking at the stupid screen!

[@longiusaescius2537]

Exactly

[@springinfialta106]

Maybe they should call it degenerative braking.

[@wombatdk]

Or firestarter.

[@jamesblair9614]

More like regurgitive braking.

[@Graeme_Lastname]

Optional braking?

[@legros731]

And the most likely cause of that is emf Regenerative braking and hard acceleration is what produce the most emf so it make sense that people report that these 2 action make them sick

[@randykitchleburger2780]

Regurgitative

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

what really makes me sick is the fact that by limiting C02 we are limiting plant growth and ontop of that we're also trying to ban good fertilizers...

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

@@gppsoftware No it's beyond a scam it's pure evil it's a scam to kill us all or at the least revert back to fuedalism.

[@domtan3479]

Depopulation agenda in disguised by pushing the climate change hoax

[@petebusch9069]

I thought I was the only one who believed that. We used to pump CO2 in our greenhouses to promote growth and it works very well.

[@sebastianbauer4768]

We do not limit co2, whatever gave you that idea? We have a natural carbon cycle on earth, similar in function to the water cycle. To this carbon cycle we *add* extra carbon that was separate of it for millions of years due to sequestration. This carbon we add ends up everywhere, air, plants, ocean whatever. So yeah, available carbon to organisms will continue to increase, no need for worry. If you want to know how the earth will look in the future just look into the past, the sequestration of carbon was a fairly recent event having to do with trees of all things, about 60 million years will do(that means before trees came up and screwed with things). No polar ice caps, no deserts to speak of, lots and lots of green. We are restoring the earth to a previous state. It wouldn’t even be concerning for scientists if it wasn’t for the speed of it. The worry is that due to the inertia of big climate systems it will shoot way past the predicted temperature and then oscillate madly around some median average temperature for hundreds of years…

[@odonnchadha1978]

​@@sebastianbauer4768😂

[@erroneouscode]

For the price of the damn things the least manufacturers could do is 'chuck' in some barf bags.

[@bradwilliams1691]

"Oh, ha ha ha ha, ha ha - nice one Centurion. Like it, like it" Monty Python's Life of Brian.

[@raymondo162]

this whole 'sick in lekky cars' story is TOTAL bs imo

[@Th4thWiseman]

😝 👍

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@raymondo162 As someone who suffers from electro sensitivity, I can assure you it's not bullshit. Electromagnetic frequencies cause all manner of symptoms, from sickness, to headaches and migraines, to brain fog and loss of balance. It's very unpleasant.

[@williamrathwell766]

And don't try to resale one they throw away cars

[@liberty0758]

Their gigantic 50" displays are perfectly fine to be fiddled with, but my 6" phone that sits in a holder is the problem. Make it make sense...

[@stuartgmk]

👍. Yep

[@simonchallenor1006]

50 inch, really. I know there is a lot of exaggeration on this channel, particularly from the author but this is taking the piss. Most non EVs these days have similar screens but because its in an EV you all get butt hurt. They are just cars that have a different power source FFS

[@davidfaustino4476]

Let's call that "display" what it actually is.. your dashboard. You have a car that doesn't have a distracting speedometer in your line of sight? Or do you think Tesla drivers are playing Candy Crush on their dashboard???

[@artvandelay5749]

​@@davidfaustino4476candy crush

[@DCGreenZone]

Knowing that the "car" is worth less than half of what you paid for it the minute you drive it off the lot would be enough to make anyone sick.

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@DCGreenZone]

@@jakefriesenjake This message would have the "Electric Viking" purveyor of all the good things about battery fires in the ICU if he isn't there already.

[@DwaynePipes]

​@@jakefriesenjake number 4. The new Dacia EV announced, £15k. Your gonna have to retract that one!

[@DwaynePipes]

​@@jakefriesenjake Number 6. Tesla Cybertrucks worth more used than buying new. You're gonna have to remove that one!😂

[@DwaynePipes]

​@@jakefriesenjakeNumber 18. Tunnel fires. Many people have already died in tunnel fires caused by ICE vehicles. You should really remove that one as well.😂

[@tekiwi]

Fella here who worked in E.V industry in SoCal. The amount of E.M.F energy that is released in traffic is rediculous. So much so that good luck finding any research funding for this subject. When the vehicles are utilizing regerative charging under breaking the Electro Magnetic Frequency increases dramatically, this is why the majority of drivers are experiening sickness is in traffic. Ive personally experienced this on two occasions in just a regular Toyota Prius. Having worked in the industry I can honestly say that 1, Theyre an absolute scam!! 2, Their is nothing positive about them period !!

[@smileychess]

You “worked in the EV industry“ and can’t think of a _single_ positive thing about them? You’re either lying or just stupid.

[@budimpla]

One of the first things I said to an EVangelist, at the beginning of this madness, was "What about electromagnetic radiation?". I was called crazy and a denialist.

[@stickyfox]

You asked a completely unbounded question. EM radiation includes everything from the warmth you feel coming thru the car's roof to the magnetic field of the motor and inverter to the car's data signal communicating with its manufacturer and LIDAR from other vehicles on the road. Even the view you see of other cars through the windows and mirrors is electromagnetic radiation. You might as well have asked "what about chemicals?" or "what about kinetic energy?" You should have asked about 2.4/5/10 GHz radiation, and field intensity at the driver position, if you wanted a technical discussion. There simply is no "getting rid of electromagnetic radiation."

[@zachspence7651]

@@stickyfoxholy shit, you’re a dork

[@mikearchibald744]

You do realize electromagnetic radiation literally covers the planet right? That the computer you are now using is emitting it, as is your cell phone you keep in your pocket. As are all those 5g towers. That said, safety should always be questioned and its rude to call poeple names for questioning something. You want to worry about something, worry about the fact there is so much nano particles of plastic out there that its now beginning to cause cardio vascular disease in people. Or that the shit they spray on forests and fields is illegal in most asian and european countries. EMF from electric cars would be WAY down the list.

[@Bobby_T_]

Yes, you’re a crazy denialist unable to fit into the modern world. Grow some balls

[@will7its]

@@stickyfox You sound fun.......🤣

[@avid6186]

I'm surprised the screen in modern cars is legal. Here at least (NZ) it used to be illegal to have a movie screen in a car visible to the driver. Now manufacturers are building in screens that you have to look at to control the car. Seems a little hypocritical to allow that. In fact the more I think about that the worse it gets. We aren't allowed to register the little cheap 4wd suzukis here anymore as they aren't considered safe any more, yet a car with a TV screen for the driver is?

[@HaigEngineering]

I agree @avid6186. Also it's a $1000.00 fine here in Australian for touching your phone whilst driving, but its quite ok to do what ever you like on your car touch screen.

[@budimpla]

@@HaigEngineering, very well said.

[@joshcheck7532]

The cheap little suzukis dont meet crash standards, have no airbags etc, you can still buy them for non road use like farming.

[@avid6186]

@@joshcheck7532 exactly, they are lacking in protection for the passengers (the ones who have a choice about there own safety) but don't really effect other road users. Touch screens however usually come in cars that a very safe for the passengers, however the distraction of a touch screen increases the potential danger to everyone else. I know which I would ban first.

[@elonever.2.071]

@@gppsoftware I didn't know that was still the case with the manual transmission. When I took my driving test in the early '70's if it wasn't on a manual there was a stipulation on your license for automatic transmission only. I thought that went out with dial-up Internet but I guess not.

[@rapalaron6348]

Only the thoughts that you need an EV in an emergency case and you're just loading an almost empty battery makes me SICK. I'll never have this crap on my lane. Not even visitors are allowed to park that self igniting crap close to my house. My dad got once a terrible nose bleeding that would not stop. I had to drive 3 hrs. to the nearest hospital and i'm sure that not one fully loaded EV on this planet had brought me there with -26 degrees Celcius that day. My diesel brings me everywhere, and i have always an extra 25 liters can with me.

[@Th4thWiseman]

%100 👍💪❤️

[@Th4thWiseman]

@@ts757arse Question! Why equipped yourself with something you know you cannot trust, when what you know you can trust you trust and you know it well? Answer ~ .................. 🖕 Remains blank for correct thinking to fill it out.

[@Th4thWiseman]

@@ts757arse So what you're referencing is you'll have an EV + an ICE vehicle so you can run with EV sheep the resort to saving yourself with an ICE....lol fence sitter! Broken men break themselves by not making solid choices!

[@seski89]

​@@Th4thWiseman You can make a solid case against EVs without arguing like a child. And he's right, you are in a niche part of the population, so good on you for being smart with your choices. Grow up.

[@Th4thWiseman]

@@seski89 Go away troll , a fence sitter is a fence sitter, a hedger, an each way indecisive fool. Grow up!? Take your own advice you 34yr old child, grow up !

[@jbar100]

wonder what the EM meter would read sitting on all those damn batteries

[@NeilFirth-f4q]

They will blow the meter

[@Ninomtperrin]

Barbecue grill!😂

[@rapalaron6348]

I'm from Sweden and i remember that the first Volvo V70 that came out had the 12V start battery placed under the passengers front seat. Because of health risk Volvo had to move the battery to the back of the car. That was just a low voltage start battery. An EV driver and all passengers are sitting now on a high voltage battery pack that for some reason not should not be harmful 😂

[@Ninomtperrin]

@rapalaron6348 I agree with you... Mobile phone are dangerous too with a little battery...think about a frypan under your car cooking you body slowly!

[@rapalaron6348]

@@Ninomtperrin Right, and the most EV's are a driving phone connected to GPS and some provider. Thinking that scientists have been threatened or disappeared that had proof that cellphones are dangerous

[@Cantshred777]

The emf levels from sitting on a massive battery would be off the charts

[@RennieAsh]

A battery by itself doesn't generate an emf

[@thinking-laaf]

It's the inverters driving the motors. Tesla is actually violating RF emissions as an am radio doesn't work

[@billsElitetrucking349]

EMF Radiation is a serious concern for people driving an Electric Car

[@nickmullen1666]

That is an excellent point

[@legros731]

Especially when regenerative braking and hard acceleration are where the most emf is produced and strangely people reported that both of these scenarios make them sick There surely no correlation here lol

[@SultanDesync]

The falloff on that means the radiation is too weak to pass through skin... The math on it is pretty clear if you're up to checking the numbets yourself.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Think too about 🚑🚒🚓 when they arrive at a EV 🚗 crash scene. US law enforcement & highway safety agencies also say DO NOT park a EV in a house garage. 🔥🔥🔥

[@biomechanique6874]

​@@SultanDesyncwtf? The proof trumps the math that is used to fool people into thinking it's safe.

[@thesurfingprospector6345]

They do nothing good for the environment

[@johnross9805]

Evs ,.. Just another pollutant

[@thesurfingprospector6345]

@@johnross9805 the whole thing is made from the same thing that makes ICEs Not one thing on the EV is planet safe The global warming is a scam I’m 70 surfed for 60 yrs roof tiled for 40 yrs Not one thing has changed since I was a kid And if these governments STOP spraying the atmosphere with shit and using HARP and other radars To manipulate the weather have no problem also the thing everyone forgets is THIS IS A PLANET 🌎 it does what ever the fuck it wants look at all the other planets raging storms all the time

[@smileychess]

Average time it takes an EV to break even in terms of overall environmental impact is around 3 years. In my state a small EV is closer to 1 year. Several detailed studies show this, it’s not hard to find the data.

[@LionRoars918]

Cause the anxiety from knowing that they are fake is harsh. 😊

[@matton36]

Imagine a clown car full of vomiting clowns.

[@daleskidmore1685]

It will be hard not to now I've read this!🤭🤫🤮🤤

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

The colors!

[@michaelschuenemann3505]

Top Clown KlausSchwab = Buy themEV's and eat themBugs !!!!

[@paulhillman400]

It's not just confetti in that bucket.

[@plastiksurgeon9129]

😀😀😀😀

[@lesliecarter4295]

Electro magnetic radiation may well be interfering with the human body’s internal electrical systems. Anyone fitted with a heart pacemaker knows what a problem this can cause!

[@DavidJohnson-yg8qm]

People with pacemakers have restricted access in power stations.

[@raichu5844]

There are plenty of valid reasons to not want an EV without saying unhinged shit like this

[@g8ymw]

@@raichu5844 Why is it "unhinged"? Try doing a bit of research into pacemakers

[@Dilbert-o5k]

​@@raichu5844why is it unhinged? There are many industrial places where high electromagnetic fields can affect delicate medical equipment such as pacemakers. Inside electric locomotives of my own experience, there were warning signs that pacemaker wearers should not enter. We are assuming that the manufactures of EVs have shielded the occupants from high electromagnetic fields, if any are produced, but we have no evidence that they do take it into account or even that there is legislation in place to cover this situation. Governments are always slow to respond to issues from new technology, and given their obsession with pushing EVs, they are probably downplaying or downright ignoring any potential issues. I must admit that the electromagnetic radiation issue hadn't even really occurred to me until now. Like you say, there are more than enough other things to dislike about EVs without yet another being added. But domestic users haven't been exposed to this amount of electrical power before, as far as I can see. It has always been confined to commercial /industrial settings which are generally better regulated and policed.

[@lesliecarter4295]

@@Dilbert-o5k the worst case scenario is standing next to the charger unit while it is in operation. There is no shielding in this case, except how far you can get away from it.

[@a_DiGiTaL_Slave_Labs]

Static electricity... Due to the increased weight of EVs they build up a static charge that can make small animals and children sick. Back in the 80's when people were getting what they thought was motion sickness it turned out it was from static buildup and hanging a static strap from the rear axle was the solution.

[@mumbles215]

Tesla is as heavy as a Lincoln continental. Early 60s ones.

[@SchwaAlien]

I think you may have missed a big possibility and that’s the insanely high EMF coming from the motors and wires that permeate the vehicles. There are some people who are much more sensitive to these fields than others, such that they can’t live too close to high voltage transmission wires and they’ll likely be even more sensitive to being in an EV… Much more scientific study on exposure to dirty electrical fields is needed, we’re only scratching the surface and that’s a shame since we are electro-chemical biology, there’s definitely much more to understand.

[@randykitchleburger2780]

No. This is not a thing.

[@seditt5146]

No, just no. Who put this into you fools heads? Is this a Reddit thing or something. Tons saying it despite it having no basis in reality.

[@davepfizer]

If they had fitted those screens in ICE cars they, the screens, would have been banned ages ago. Seems though that if its a EV anything is okay. Someone somewhere forgot to do an ergonomic study of drivers. Controls within reach and tactile so that once you have used them once you know where they are and you don't even have to look.

[@stuartgmk]

👍. Exactly

[@BriBCG]

Have you even looked at any modern cars? Half if not more are almost as bad as Tesla with the amount of touchscreen controlled functions and capacitive controls, so your theory doesn't exactly pan out.

[@Withnail1969]

It's incredible what Tesla get away with

[@bigballz4u]

Where are you getting info from to back up your baseless claim? There's a simple and good (for car makers) reason for it, it's simply cheaper than making a zillion buttons and switches.

[@solentbum]

Apparently the NCap safety testers are looking at marking down some touch screens in future safety tests, for all cars. Luckily my EV has all of the controls through buttons/levers. A much better system.

[@Duan-m6n]

What I find annoying is the term EV. To me they are not electrical vehicles at all. They are battery operated vehicles. This puts them in the same class as torches, remotes, mobile phones etc. This is the best way to expose their vulnerabilities. At least when a remotes battery dies you can replace it yourself without losing an arm and a leg

[@mellarner8253]

Am waiting for the day, such as when they cut costs on christmas toys and annoyingly, you unwrapped the gift and on the package it said “ Batteries not included” . Go and buy the battery after christmas, at twice the cost of the toy.

[@garymillerlcs]

Absolutely correct. I always refer to them as battery cars (or toy cars).

[@elonever.2.071]

They are referring to the fuel source. Electric charge of batteries vs petrol filling of the tank.

[@sahhull]

It's the people that drive them that make me sick. The user with the Tesla. The dog is just making the bland interior more interesting.

[@paulparoma]

I have utter disdain for Tesla drivers, especially women.

[@bramesque]

It is the people yes yes!

[@cutedgehouse]

I saw a white Tesla in B&M car park in Huddersfield. Someone had written’KNOB’ in the dirt on the rear…

[@paulparoma]

@@cutedgehouse That only makes sense to a Brit.

[@sahhull]

@@cutedgehouse can't condone that. It damages the paint.

[@Jesse.Glanville]

Its the lack of engine sound. Our brains are used to hearing the motor in order to judge when accelleration is happening. This is why some passengers also get sick in regular cars, because their body cant tell when motion is about to happen.

[@StofStuiver]

Screens in combination with movement can and do make you sick. Nothing new about that. But to state a few examples: I was in a ferry over the northsea once with my sister, early 80ies. We decided to go watch a movie in the cinema on the ship. When we got there, it was too quiet. We wondered why as we sat down and started to watch the movie. Soon after we both got sick. The sea was a bit rough that day and the ship was in all sorts of angles. Your inner ear, which is the measure for your brain to determine this, is then not 'in sync' with what the eyes see, bc the screen we were looking at shows a non moving horizon. That leads to motion sickness. So we decided to leave and went on deck, outside a bit, to see horizon. The sickness soon went away. Its also a known phenomenon to gamers. Playing a game, specially those representing 3D, can equally make you feel sick, as the eyes see the movement, but the inner ear doesnt register it. We also know it from f.i. reading a book, while in motion. Etc. All these can cause motion sickness. I take it in an EV, or ICE car with a big display for all information, which is prominently in front of you demanding attention, a similar thing can be happening. Its overengineered, without thinking of this aspect and consequences. That doesnt explain the dog though, getting sick. Its probably (indeed) stacked with several things. Acceleration/decelleration is a good one. I was also thinking of vibration that may be a factor. Low frequency (

[@my3dviews]

I agree about the big screens at the centre of the dash. I much prefer real gauges behind the steering wheel. The screen is okay for GPS, but I don't like all of the control only being on a touch screen.

[@stuartgmk]

👍

[@Jimster481]

That's a Tesla thing.. My LEAF is just like a normal car but it's electric.

[@grantleyhughes]

Isn't this wonderful. BYD. Bringing up Your Dinner.

[@Ninomtperrin]

😂😂😂😂

[@davidreynolds3082]

Barf Your Dinner has a ring to it ;)

[@donavonlarney]

what about the magnetic/ dielectric fields?

[@melissasmess2773]

Sterilize you 😅

[@donavonlarney]

@infiniteshoeblack magnetic fields are radiation .. not enough is spoken about this... high voltage lines lighting up fluro's is the dielectric field in action.. not fun living near them ... combine that with 5 g towers and the enormous cables leading to the transmitter/ receiver... we are swamped with radiation.

[@g8ymw]

@@donavonlarney Correction. The telephone masts have thick coax cables because the losses at upper UHF frequencies. This works both ways . To put it another way. If you used thin coax (eg RG58), hardly anything would be coming out at the aerial and hardly anything would be received Just looked up coax losses, this is for amateur radio bands so I've picked 2.4 GHz (5g goes up to around 3.5GHz,) RG58 32dB of loss per 100ft LDF550 2.3dB loss per 100ft 32 dB is (near enough) 1/2000th of whats going into the coax is getting out the other end 2.3dB is less than half getting lost

[@donavonlarney]

@@g8ymw classic bot talk with a bot name ... normal people would not go to the trouble... what ever ... we should put them everywhere 3,5 ghz is so healthy... for profit... not your brain... but you don't have one cause you are a bot

[@catey62]

@@g8ymw The energy given off by the cables isn't the problem. its the actual energy emitted by antenna's themselves. same as the energy given off by unshielded high tension power lines. and in an EV, the EMF becomes trapped in the cabin. much like the energy in a microwave is trapped inside by its metal walls. I wonder how soon we'll begin to see in increase in cancers and other similar diseases among EV owners.

[@clintonreisig]

FREEDOM. Do not force EVs on the population

[@budlistar5312]

It goes along with not building a house under power lines, or having a cell phone next to your head all day, or don’t look in the microwave while it’s on, etc,etc,etc.

[@elk3909]

or maybe learning about em radiation and why it has almost no effect on the human body unless its ionizing radiation. whats wrong with looking at a microwave while its on? unless youve removed the grounded grid on the front.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

Ionizing radiation is what you need to be worried about. The amounts of electromagnetic radiation from power lines, phones and a closed microwave will not hurt you. You're doing this same thing with 'radiation' that a lot of people do with 'chemical' and assuming it's automatically dangerous because scary-sounding word.

[@elk3909]

@@AngryReptileKeeper i know its annoying how people who dont understand how stuff works can spread misinformation.

[@durv13]

not only EMF but were using 5g now with its square wave lengths which is an abomination to all living things , the digital RF and EMF is all the reasons you need to ban these cars

[@seditt5146]

@@elk3909 While I think these people are fools you might want to actually look into it because what yall are saying is not true either. Low frequency AC EM fields do effect biology rather strongly and as time goes on we are leaning this more and more. Def not saying that is what is happening here as its clearly just motion sickness and all these EMF nutters int he comments spent too much time on reddit or something but AC em fields esp with specific frequency's is extremely impactful to a level we do not fully even understand and are just starting to get a handle on. I would also suggest Prof Micheal Levins work also to get a full understanding of what Electric fields can do to biology. Dudes one of the greatest Scientific minds of our era in my opinion. Lot of amazing work.

[@michaelhart5886]

Ironically my wife said to me 2 weeks ago after getting an uber which happened to be a tesla from balmain to the Sutherland Shire that she felt car sick after the 50 minute ride home as soon as she walked in. I, being a bloke kind off laughed it off, but I've just shown her this and I got a big I told you so

[@contractor556]

EMF radiation is off the charts in those

[@rextucker3184]

The side-effect of throwing up like you're on a rollercoaster is something most of us hadn't even considered. These EV's are getting more interesting everyday.

[@waldopepper4069]

no one is mentioning the exposure to large amounts of constant magnetism from the battery underneath you. but if you like electric cars, ive got this great house right under some high tension lines that you will just love.

[@oggyoggy1299]

It’s not an issue. And nor are those powerlines.

[@aperitifs]

If you can use a MRI scanner , a very small insignificant amount comes from a water cooled motors.. MRI 3 Tesla uses liquid nitrogen for cooling 🪭... Could be the motor windings, or something in the brand new car smell with a hint of Nvidia GPU thermal paste causing carsickness.. give it time to loose the new car smell and sickness be gone .

[@tysonbeighss]

Yup. This is why EVs usually don't have AM radios. Reception is impossible from the electromagnetic field primarily from the motor controller.

[@StofStuiver]

@@oggyoggy1299 Ive got a bridge to sell you. A rectifier bridge.

[@RennieAsh]

​@@tysonbeighssand yet people lived their whole lives amongst AM and FM radio waves without complaint lol

[@richardfrisby6913]

Being in a Tesla is like sitting in a cellphone. Getting all bathed in microwavees like a chicken pot pie.

[@CrawldaBeast]

Maybe the nausea is coming from the amount of electromagnetic flux being created by the car. Same thing as living under high tension wires or being around wind turbines. I would love to sniff the radio spectrum around an EV. All those square waves can't be good for you. Remember, even low frequency square waves have the rise and fall rate of a much higher frequency component.

[@canberroo2509]

One wonders if it could also have something to do with the large and overlapping EMF fields that an EV and all it's motors would inevitably generate. I remember my dad fitting rubber 'static straps' to our old cars to try to reduce car sickness for us as kids.. Not sure it worked that well (we still got sick), but that was the remedy in the 70s... A rubber strap flailing behind the car in an attempt to discharge static electricity.... I wouldn't be surprised if strong EMF is playing a role here.

[@paulparoma]

*its

[@canberroo2509]

#eTardAlert @@paulparoma

[@theodavies8754]

​@@paulparoma 'tis true,but's picky. EMF is dismissed as the cause. The BEV concept is fundamentally flawed in ways that cannot be overcome.

[@gungho1284]

Won't the EMF fields cause cancer?

[@ivortoad]

I think the Anti static rubber strap had a copper wire within it. They did work with non cotton knickers.

[@soundknight]

Every time they take off at the lights I just think “he, he… race you to the outback😂😂😂😂😂😂”

[@solentbum]

Where most of us drive there is no outback!

[@Alabaster335]

They think they're so smug flooring it off the lights, until an ex-taxi Barra with a $300 eBay turbo and million K's on it pulls up beside them and blows them off the line. lol

[@grellis6483]

Just took a trip away in my beautiful 'gas guzzling' SUV. Loved every minute of the trip deep into the Victorian countryside. Couldn't help but notice how dramatically the Teslas dwindled in numbers as we left the city! 😂

[@nicolagianaroli2024]

It could be acceleration but it could even be something more serious such as the insane elettromagnetic field which allegedly are generated inside the cockpit

[@oggyoggy1299]

I’ve spent many hours in them without issue.

[@budimpla]

, @@oggyoggy1299, cancer also not appear in a short time. Wait. We are told, Smartphones radiation is bad, but powerfull electic motors, no?

[@solrubrum]

@@oggyoggy1299 You would say the same thing if you had sat inside an X-Ray machine, until 5 years later your skin started melting off.

[@wrotenwasp]

Good one. When I was an auto mechanic back in the 80s-90s, my boss, in his 60s , was using an air nozzle to blow the brake dust off the backing plate of the rear brake backing plate. I said " hey, you need to put a hood around that thing with a vacuum, open the door or at least wear a mask. That wasnt the only time. His reply "ahhhhh, I know guys that did it this way for 20-25 years". 4 years after that he died of lung cancer.@@solrubrum

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

​@@oggyoggy1299yeah for the short term. Like most things it's the long term when things start to show up.

[@doca8792]

Makes sense My wife’s Rivian makes me car sick every time Brilliant points you’ve made

[@Bobby_T_]

Awful smelling gas cars make me sick

[@doca8792]

@@Bobby_T_ no rides for you on my two stroke dirt bike then

[@LuluTheDuck33]

EMF Radiation poisoning. Ure sitting on top of giant lithium batteries under your seat

[@anomamos9095]

I remember the new pollution trend where all these lab coated individuals ran around public office buildings with EMF monitors detecting Hazardous radiation coming from such deadly devices as clock radios, computer keyboards and monitors. I also remember a story about how maglev trains were hazardous to mental health slowing brain function and upsetting balance making people feel motion sick even standing near a passing train. I wonder if anyone has bothered to measure the EMR found in the average VSM?

[@davelowe1977]

Puking on the battery is just another way to protest.

[@andyhowlett2231]

Those screens are downright dangerous. Even changing the radio station in our car takes three taps and I have to look away from the road three times to do it. Our previous car had six large buttons on the dash and I didn't need to look at them.

[@softwarephil1709]

That should be illegal.

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@maj429]

That's the biggest list of FUD I've seen so far. Congrats. About 5 of those points are true. ​@@jakefriesenjake

[@bruddachimp]

Someone needs to do a study on EV's high EMF exposure which can cause people to feel sick. Took a TriField EMF meter then held it near an EV (tesla model Yuck) and it went off the scale.

[@miguellopez3392]

Lol, now guess what the sun radiation does to your skin in just 4 hours of exposure, does it set off your tried field EMF lol? The magnetic fields aren't spinning fast enough to deionize you. You know what else gives you a g 100x the amount of EMF? Radio towers, look for studies on am and FM radio towers since they are far closer in frequency to the RMF of a EV than something like 5G.

[@rodneyelliott5995]

Interesting topic. Going back to the 1950s/60s, Manchester had electric trolly bus frequent stop public transport. If I used the trolly bus service I experienced motion sickness. On the same route there was a combined authority (SHMD) express service with limited stops. The buses used for that were diesel automatic Daimlers and I never experienced any motion sickness using that service. Needless to say, I always paid the few extra pence and used the limited stop express ICE powered bus. It’s worth mentioning (perhaps?) the comparative journey times for the part of the route I travelled were 18 minutes for the limited stop service. 30 minutes for the sick-making electric bus service.

[@cedhome7945]

British minister just said we need more gas power stations before we have blackouts.....so they want us to use more power when there is not enough power stations! They will take 20 years to build so where is the power going to come from now ?

[@gazzafloss]

Just hold a solar panel behind the PM as he drops his trousers and bends over, they all think the sun shines out of their arses.

[@marcushull12]

Smart meters, if you have an ICE car you will be cut off when the demand is high, so all the good people who are saving the planet can charge their Ev`s

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

I heard on the radio that gas powered boilers will be phased out. The greens wanted all homeowners to install heat pumps or “wind powered boilers!”😮

[@marcushull12]

@@AmigaA-or2hj Killing the poor and vulnerable one policy at a time. All electric is SH!T. i moved 18 months ago from my victorian 3 bed gas central heated house to a 35 year old all electric 2 bed apartment , it`s freezing and cost 5 times more to get it mildly warm (I managed to get it to 18c in winter and the bill was £265 ! and its off peak electric too, so once you have had a bath you have to wait until midnight for it to come on again, unless you want to hit the bypass button and spend another tenner to have more hot water !

[@aftonline]

This is interesting. I don't own an EV but recently visited a family member who does, and on the trip back from the airport in his GWM Ora, and on another trip in the same car the next day, I was getting nauseous. Maybe it's just that I am not normally driven by others, but it was noticeable. I wasn't really aware of the acceleration or deceleration being out of the ordinary, but it's probably the way that the electric motor is switching on and off as it accelerates and decelerates, maybe it's less fluid than most ICE cars today, many of which have automatic transmissions where the torque converter smooths out the transitions between speeding up and slowing down.

[@TheSd1cko]

A lot of EV drivers like to have it set so that a lot of braking happens when you lift off the throttle. This makes for a nautious experience. My dad likes his car set this way. I have an EV too and disable this option and everyone I've ever taken somewhere comments how smooth and comfortable the drive is. A few of them have even then bought EV, which i would never recommend as a personal car. I only have mine because its a company car, and ownership this way is practically free in the uk. Even the "fuel" is free.

[@aftonline]

@@TheSd1cko Yes, and I've read comments by some EV drivers who say that coasting is actually better for economical driving than activating regen every time you lift off the accelerator. That makes sense to me, because conservation of momentum allows you to keep your speed up for very little additional energy spent until you really need to touch the brake to slow down, and then it makes sense to use regen and put some energy back in the battery.

[@WiseGuy02]

Feeling ill was the least of the potential problems. The car could have spontaneously combusted. You could have been cooked.

[@aftonline]

@@WiseGuy02 Yeah I see why you call yourself a wise guy. Tell me, out of all the millions of EV's on the road, what percentage of them are catching fire? Have you ever seen an EV catch fire? Have you ever seen a petrol or diesel car catch fire? Just because you know something can potentially happen doesn't mean it's a high risk. I'd say the chances are one in a few hundred thousand, maybe higher for certain models that got recalled because they were faulty, such as the Chevy Volt.

[@TheSd1cko]

@@aftonline yes, this is exactly right.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

Touchscreens are a PITA when driving on bumpy roads.

[@nobadvibes8685]

THE MAGNETIC RADIATION that emits from the battery is causing the sickness.

[@thinking-laaf]

It is not the battery. That is DC. It is the RF Magnetic and electric constantly changing field generated to drive the motors.

[@monicapushkin3274]

It is astounding that they sell cars with giant touch screens on the dash. Just unbelievable.

[@DM-ki1bs]

I remember a report years ago that electric pylons in built up areas were affecting the residents. Is this not the same as sitting close to a high powered battery ?

[@mrtechie6810]

No.

[@g8ymw]

The battery itself? No The inverter and motor? Yes

[@1439315]

People would purchase a cheap house built directly under high voltage transmission lines. They had a baby; guess what young child was diagnosed with under age 5 ? . . . . . . . . .

[@freedomfighter5095]

Chevy tech here. Talking about screens the new Silverado ICE has so many damn screens in it that I will not drive them. Everything is LED and the flicker rate is such that it make me unable to focus on the road.

[@vichetkim5533]

Some other KZbinr who owned the Porche Cayenne EV correctly said EV's are like mobile phones. Once used, it will be discarded unlike the old school 20th century muscle cars.

[@davidlasanen7690]

those old school muscle cars are not discarded here in the usa they are completely rebuilt and worth more than that pos porche

[@aurorajones8481]

I used to be an early EV adopter...now i happily own ICE. Manuals. ;)

[@alexalex13131]

Whether or not electromagnetic radiation emanating from the 1,000 pound lithium battery a few inches under the car seats is bad...who would want to take that chance?

[@alatus7242]

Ha, ha, ha, I thought there was something wrong with me - whenever a friend tries to show off his Tesla's acceleration to me sitting in the passenger seat, I get dizzy and not in a good way.

[@thetriumphsprint]

Drink a bottle of Fanta next time, before he takes you for a drive. And bring a change of clothes.

[@alatus7242]

@@thetriumphsprint What are the clothes for? I am not impressed by the acceleration, let alone intimidated. That's what riding bikes does to you. The problem with Teslas is that they feel jolty both accelerating and decelerating, which is unexpected from an electric motor.

[@thetriumphsprint]

@@alatus7242 well the Fanta makes for a colourful vomitous experience and the clothes are, well, because no one likes stinky vomit clothes. Your friend needs the learning opportunity. I know what you mean about the bike experience. Mine is a triumph sprint.

[@alatus7242]

@@thetriumphsprint Didn't know Fanta had the potential to amplify the whole experience. As an engineer myself with two different majors in the mechanical and electrical fields, I am surprised how much I dislike electric cars as a whole and what they stand for. People like me should have been the biggest EV fans. As for bikes, Japanese screamers have been my cup of tea. You seem more like a tourer guy.

[@thetriumphsprint]

@@alatus7242 the early sprint like mine was a sports tourer, closer to the sports end. Later ones were def tourers. I'd love to get a small to mid capacity screamer to have some track fun with. 2 stroke world be a bonus. Fanta is quite colourful on its way back out. I think your friend's EV would benefit from an orange interior 😈

[@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE]

Range anxiety?

[@1439315]

Range gap - every 'modern' gal

[@jefftaylor844]

How many crashes are caused by drivers of EVs playing around with those big screens in front of them ?

[@fayenotfaye]

To do what? You can’t play games or watch KZbin on those screens while driving. Even in a Tesla you can adjust heat, bring up cameras, adjust acceleration mode and other settings without touching the screen so I’m not sure what you mean.

[@jonathanfarley2023]

@@fayenotfaye I just drove a Tesla (I was forced to rent it), and I'm not aware that you can do any of what you said without using the screens.

[@ruthplant9604]

We are electrical beings, sitting on a huge number of batteries which would introduce away too much electricity

[@thinking-laaf]

It is NOT the batteries. It doesn't generate a changing field, it's the AC motors and the inverters driveling these motors

[@armurano5093]

The owners really think they are saving the Earth's ecology when they are doing the opposite.

[@Shenkosky]

Most all EV's charge from AC power that is converted to DC battery packs that then are converted again back into multiple AC Motors. So you definitely have multiple massive power induction fields and a standing wave generated by the motors themselves. I believe this level of massive EMF distortion is what made me very sick when I rented one on holiday. I was literally unable to drive it for long periods of time and felt extremely disoriented from it. I own a boat and live on a lake so I know it was not motion sickness. This type of EMF bombardment has to be unhealthy and needs to be measured as I'm sure some manufacturers have better shielding vs others.

[@RennieAsh]

It can still be motion sickness. I was fine on boats but sometimes in cars where there isn't sound or other feeling but there is sudden acceleration can give the feeling of sickness over time. I'm generally good with driving but case in point can be sick from spinning around too fast - acceleration force is higher

[@Shenkosky]

@@RennieAsh It's possible. I also love the theory on how quiet they are as the reason because the frequencies you cannot hear are literally screaming at you! So there in lies the rub it could be too quiet while also too loud.

[@scottweston8477]

One of the main reasons is the lack of noise when accelerating. In an ICE car when the driver accelerates the passenger hears the change in noise and subconsciously prepares for the change in motion. The regenerative braking is also made a lot worse by settings and bad driving styles. 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

Mmm good point.

[@smileychess]

Yeah, the way you drive makes a big difference. I grew up with an aunt who would always lurch the break, and it would make me sick. One-pedal driving in most EVs enable both better and worse driving. Depends in the person operating it.

[@ConradJupiter77]

i wonder what the electromagnetic fields in EVs are doing to ppl.

[@raichu5844]

Do you have brain damage?

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

Heaps! Google the side effects.

[@rwalkenhorst]

Most people have no idea what smooth driving looks like, much less how to achieve it. They don't modulate the accelerator, instead treating it as an on/off switch. I can imagine that the "ludicrous" performance of an EV would greatly exacerbate this operator deficiency.

[@mickmelbourneaustralia1305]

Has anyone considered the effects of the electro magnetic frequencies given off inside an EV? I'd argue that it's worse than sitting inside a mobile phone (if that was possible) especially considering the very high voltages involved throwing out powerful pulsed magnetic fields at frequencies that we can't handle. Nikola Tesla was totally against pulsed electricity as it's not natural like an analogue sine wave and deemed it dangerous to human health. Since when has anything synthetic been better than nature?

[@ghunt9146]

Once they realise the depreciation on their EV, that surely would make their stomach churn.

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

@@jakefriesenjakeHalf your points are just plain wrong, and most of the rest is exaggerated and overblown. E.g. #27, if you precondition your battery it will readily accept a charge. #46 "Happened many times " Uh, no it hasn't.

[@jakefriesenjake]

@@jamesvandamme7786 been in the Chicago news, in Chicago

[@FunkySpunkyJunky]

@@jakefriesenjake making yourself look a twat keep pasting this same shit into every comment.

[@casper-zb1pp]

Electromagnetic fields your sitting in a microwave oven

[@melissasmess2773]

Sterilize ya 😅

[@johnnunn8688]

No, you’re not.

[@Ninomtperrin]

It's exactly what it is happening....not to mention cancer causing!

[@raa729]

I hope you are joking. Humans are absolutely not receptive to electromagnetic forces

[@Qs_Internet_Cafe]

You can't see it or feel it...must be safe, yeah ?@@raa729

[@MitchTube]

I’m not sure if it’s a configuration issue, but my friend has his model 3 in single pedal drive/max regen. What this means is that the accelerator is extremely sensitive to the point that imperfections on the road jiggle the drivers body which translates to oscillating acceleration/deceleration on the accelerator pedal. This leads to a very poor experience as a passenger.

[@NeoN-PeoN]

In order for an EV to have a lower CO2 emission footprint than an equivalent ICE vehicle, the EV has to be driven for YEEASRS. Like, a decade or something. It's because powerplants and electric motors ARE far more efficient than combustion engines, but EVs are way more costly (in CO2) to produce. This means that all those rich snobs who get a new car every few years are actually INCREASING their CO2 footprint while telling YOU that they're better people than you are!

[@MoosesValley]

Why do electric cars make people feel sick: 1. They are thinking about the massive depreciation 2. They are thinking about the cost of a new battery 3. They are sick from sniffing their own farts

[@revolvermaster4939]

Smug Alert🤣

[@abaj006]

One thing beyond my comprehension is the fact that some electric cars have a yok instead of a steering wheel. A yok is all well and good, but only if its limited to +/- 90 degrees of turn. But these yoks require 900 degrees lock to lock. Its pure madness and I have no idea how this is not even illegal? How can someone steer with a yok that requires multiple revolutions? I mean, that is the reason why the steering wheel is a wheel!

[@derekcable]

Not necessarily as it depends on the turn ratio built into it.....I guess you've never heard of a quick ratio rack as used on old school rack & pinion steering racks. Your probably find that the +/-90 gives you full turning lock like a quick rack would do.

[@normansaunders6891]

There was a similar thing with the Austin/Morris 1100 back in the day because the newly introduced hydrolastic suspension was making people 'seasick'.

[@paulparoma]

I got a little seasick test-driving the Citroen C6, after which my mother, who was with me and felt the same way, labeled it "Citroen C-Sick."

[@cornishhh]

"It Floats on Fluid"

[@normansaunders6891]

@@cornishhh It was later replaced with a gas suspension system.

[@spizzenergi2292]

We had to laugh yesterday. We were in a supermarket car park in York and there was a bloke kicking the s**t out of a charging point. It wasn’t the macmaster, but no doubt he had tried fruitlessly many times to get the thing to work.

[@rinzler9775]

If you buy an EV, make sure to accept it will have zero resell value, and be no longer usable, after the battery dies in 8 years.

[@hueysegura6956]

Being lied to by the industry makes me sick, and I haven’t bought one.

[@yoHOBODAN]

My dentist that drives 200 miles to work with his Tesla has solar at his dentists office and home.... 2 years later, he dumped the Tesla and now driving his truck.... Wonder why

[@jebes909090]

Because hes rich and gets a new vehical every few years

[@derekcable]

​@@jebes909090 How do you know his financial status? He could be provided with a company vehicle like millions of other non-rich people.

[@jebes909090]

@@derekcable non rich dentists? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 im sure if he can afford a tesla as a second vehical and/or buy a truck within 2 years of buying a tesla he probably has money.

[@derekcable]

@@jebes909090 Life just didn't turn out as you wanted ? 🤣

[@jebes909090]

@@derekcable as not a rich dentist

[@ElementofKindness]

Makes sense. As someone who gets motion sickness on rough water on a boat, I understand the cause. With a silent EV, unexpected motion through acceleration/deceleration without the feedback of engine noise to tell your brain what is happening, especially if not looking out of the vehicle, (looking at a phone or watching a movie on a built in screen) city stop an go would definitely cause the disorienting effects for motion sickness.

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@fayenotfaye]

With that logic, why don’t people report the same issues with electric trains?

[@jakefriesenjake]

@@fayenotfaye probably because it's more of a gradual acceleration and smoother. And doesn't happen as often per trip.

[@jakefriesenjake]

@@fayenotfaye imagine being in a bucket speeding up and slowing down every 2 seconds.... You'd be puking in a minute. Teslas are in between that electric bucket and a high speed electric train. Some are saying that it's because of the regen braking setting. It comes on too hard and fast to generate electricity. Some say that actually hurts millage because you get less of a "coasting" effect. Look up "hyper milling" Your supposed to speed up as slow as possible and slow down as slow as possible, all while maintaining a higher speed to get from point a to point b. Obviously, if your vehicle gets the best mpg or millage at 45 mph, rather than 78 mph, you would modify your max speed as well. Setting up your Ev to jam on regen braking will kill your mpg and cause people to get sick in your car too.

[@musictosoothe]

Motion sickness on a boat can definitely happen by not looking out at the water and concentrating on something within the boat.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Congrats on reaching 60k subs, Simon!

[@MrBazsi888]

There is only one thing that is better than buttons: gesture control.

[@clivefrear1784]

I’m amazed at car manufacturers disregard for safety with the advent of large touch-screen controls; they’re difficult to see in certain light conditions, quickly become obscured by fingerprints; but worst of all, they encourage eyes off the road for too long. A car travels a surprising distance in three seconds at sixty miles per hour!

[@OpinionFactChecker]

Current EV owners should have to live with these timebombs until they are worn out, if they are truly concerned with the environment! We already have enough disposable products, and lately dealerships are not accepting older models as a trade-in.

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@nomyafiftyonefifty8081]

​@@jakefriesenjakewow that's some list!!

[@jakefriesenjake]

@@nomyafiftyonefifty8081 adding to it every week! Ty

[@georgewilliamtussler5475]

😂😂😂😂😂 this story doesn't make me feel sick, it makes me feel better from laughing 😂😂😂😊😊😊 great story, Simon...😊😊

[@jakefriesenjake]

1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. 45. Even if large transport trucking companies have a service where they could just swap out their pouch batteries for a freshly charged battery, the lifespan of the battery would be greatly reduced to maybe a couple of years. Recharging a huge battery 3 or 4 times per day would kill the battery in short order. 46. If an Ev car goes up in flames on a huge cargo ship, the whole cargo ship sinks. Happened many times already. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

[@FunkySpunkyJunky]

@@jakefriesenjake shit list of bollocks.

[@David-xi7jj]

Has anyone ever tested the electro-magnetic fields in an electric vehicle? I have a feeling the field may be what is causing this problem. Your pet is not concerned about the costs or availability of charging stations. so it must be something else.

[@stevencorrea8032]

I own one 4 years I have absolutely no problem with the electromagnetic field

[@lv4077]

If people find driving an EV nauseating,wait till they try to sell the damn thing

[@xefilz]

Because of their huge radiation. People must realize their plan...

[@jontaylor1652]

Amen brother, keep preaching!

[@markc6714]

It's illegal for me to look at my phone screen but not the cars screen.... Go figure

[@smileychess]

Distracted or inattentive driving is always illegal.

[@jonathanfarley2023]

@@smileychess They made it illegal (and never should have). In fact, I can believe that more accidents were caused by people looking down at their phones in their laps because they didn't want cops to see them.

[@smileychess]

@@jonathanfarley2023 - I didn't say anything about screens. I said "distracted or inattentive driving is always illegal." This has been true for decades.

[@johnjohnson2855]

It’s called EMF Field!!!

[@MrChrisRP]

Yes. The amps are enourmous since voltages aren't very high.

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

It's not motion sickness, it the electromagnetic radiation (EMF) given off by powerful batteries. Your car is also transmitting large amount of data as well, more EMF.

[@RennieAsh]

How does a DC battery give off "emf"...

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

@@RennieAsh You'll need to do some research because anything I post will just be deleted. They have taken meters in those cars and it's very high. The official studies say they are safe. Use your own discernment.

[@InformedKiwi]

EVs delivered 33K in Australia in 2022 this grew by a massive 185% to 80K in 2023 or 7.2% of all vehicles sold. This year one in 10 new vehicles will be a EV. Unstoppable

[@Niknteen1]

And our Energy prices are going up on a pretty similar scale.

[@HarryLime49]

I'd say the £100K Macmaster has lost on his Porsche is more than enough to induce nausea.

[@ivortoad]

I've read that one shouldn't have their Mobile phone on the bedside table due to radiation.

[@Vladviking]

You got to wonder because your surrounded by electromagnetics and sitting on top of a humungous battery. I have seen some science that say that type of thing can alter your brain and its perceptions at least temporarily...

[@HankHammer-cp5px]

The electromagnetic field from those stupid batteries could produce physical symptoms like nausea. Some are sensitive to such things, whether it is recognized by doctors or not.

[@baneotoole5370]

I'm going to toss one into the EV hat, that I have seen no mention of anywhere. How safe is it to be riding around on a giant high voltage battery all day long? There have already been connections between electromagnetic currents and all sorts of cancer. Especially leukemia. That is a fact. I am pretty curious to see when a study will come out confirming that the effects of being in these vehicles for long periods of time are having disastrous effects on the human body. Maybe getting physically ill is a sign of something much worse happening than motion sickness.

[@effigy42]

They will never do the study