ex-Bungie next to 343 Industries

Unlike 343 Industries, those Bungie behind-scenes weren't used for marketing, they're only available in limited editions as bonus content. Most of those Bungie devs aren't working at the company anymore. 343 Industries rarely talks about development in those making-of videos, there's few explanation about anything in Halo 5 behind-the-scenes. If you want more you should watch the following sources below.
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Halo 2 Behind the Scenes: • Behind the Scenes Maki...
Halo 3 Anatomy Of A Game: • Halo 3 - Anatomy of a ...
Halo 3 ViDocs: • HALO 3 - ViDoc
Halo 4 Making-of: • Playlist
Halo 5 The Sprint: • Playlist

[@TheMartyODonnell]

For some reason I came back to watch this video today. Still seems relevant I guess.

[@Chapin335]

HOPE YOURE DOING WELL MARTY!!!

[@Sqdlow]

Miss the Paul Russel interviews, I loved those and they were absolutely fascinating to listen too. I wish there was a way to watch them again :(

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

No way! Did you hear the news regarding Bonnie Ross?

[@prempink12311]

Good news 343 founders resigned

[@prempink12311]

@@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 she resigned and said she want care her family

[@HighChaosRoute]

the removal of split screen was when I fully understood that these people have no clue about halo at all.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

the copying of cod with halo 4 is when I fully understood that these people have no clue about halo at all... Then of course my views were only strengthened when they released a unfinished game known as MCC and a halo titles that lacked split screen known as H5. I wonder how shitty H6 is going to be? 10 bucks says they add something gay like wall running or take out something kool like team objective.

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

The moment the Halo 4 trailers started, I knew Halo is dead.

[@talos2233ify1]

My bets are that they will go for a watered down overwatch approach for its multiplayer.And also lootboxes.

[@Exekyutioner]

The Master Grief Collection Or they make it battle royal

[@zippolighter4903]

I truly despise them for removing couch co-op and downgrading the Spartan customization

[@darkspire91]

Bungie was like an artist with a canvas 343 was like a worker with a checklist

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

Greatest analogy ever

[@spaceduck2130]

A worker is supposed to work though.

[@minikuma]

@@spaceduck2130 Put another away, it just means that Bungie was passionate about their work. 343 isn’t and it shows

[@spaceduck2130]

@@minikuma I know, I was just pointing out the fact that 343 can't even do the bare minimum.

[@silverhand2151]

The sad part is both companies suck now. 343 never had the spirit of Halo, and Bungie was defiled by Activision.

[@LukeLaczynski]

"He's a human, not just a suit of armor" "He's a husk of metal that you move around"

[@caramelldansen2204]

Hey, eku1? Have you seen Paramount's "Halo"? Don't shoot the messenger.

[@jigglypup1156]

A husk because your actions as a player reflect on him, you are the Chief, you live in that story, feeling everything they feel.

[@harrylitzler7086]

@@caramelldansen2204 terrible

[@Orcawhale1]

@@harrylitzler7086 If you say it's because they "ruined" masterchiefs character, i will punch you square in the face.

[@splatterking1171]

@@caramelldansen2204 I wish I didn't

[@TheMartyODonnell]

Wow Crowbcat, 1.2m views? That’s a lot of my music getting heard. Thanks.

[@John-qd4kk]

Martin O'Donnell Thank you so much for such an amazing soundtrack.

[@Umbra_Nazgul]

Is this the real Martin? Please tell me you are and not a fake.

[@Umbra_Nazgul]

Well, if you are, can I please get your opinion on Halo 5? Just your general opinion no need to go into real detail, but your honest opinion on what went wrong.

[@edwardbaeg7141]

Thank you for the heart and passion. You went above and beyond instead of making a generic action movie soundtrack, you made music that touched the soul. Monks chanting, who would of thought? You sir are incredible.

[@Derek-it5rp]

Martin O'Donnell Oh my God, it’s Marty! You’ve created the music of my childhood. Me and the rest of the subscribers of r/halocirclejerk would like to thank you. Also, did you work on the Halo: Infinite music? The trailer’s music sounds a lot like Halo 3’s.

[@iain2080]

"this space needs to be fun before it's pretty" the antidote to the modern game industry

[@turner8107]

ikr

[@smokydogy]

Thats why Doom is my GOTY. Every aspect is designed around gameplay.

[@joelcoates9985]

The first step in the right direction is Doom. The modern shooter that UNDERSTANDS that it's a video game and is therefore an incredibly fun video game, instead of a "gritty and realistic" piece of shit.

[@themacaronichronicles717]

+Joel Coates please tell me when you say "gritty realistic peace of shit" you're not being serious

[@joelcoates9985]

+The Macaroni Chronicles No I'm 100% serious. Recently a lot of shooters, have been trying to make their games "realistic" and making them not fun in the process. Doom however prioritises fun over all else.

[@joho0707]

Dev's favourite words: 343: competitive bungie: fun

[@yaojing7042]

I like Bungies Idea more

[@Kdawg562]

2001-2010 Bungie was honestly legendary, I'm so glad I got to experience that era growing up. Unfortunately, as soon as the money making potential of the gaming industry was realized the corporate bastards decided to milk it dry instead of producing genuine content. That's why all of the magic is lost today.

[@FaceFish9]

it's not lost, you just have to look for it in different places, indie devs and bunch of studios like From Soft are still making amazing games

[@alezarde211]

It’s really not honestly

[@jasperfox6821]

Well, with infinite, it's safe to say, halo is back. I enjoyed infinites campaign. So yeah.

[@FaceFish9]

@@jasperfox6821 well most people hated it, and people are already bored of the multiplayer because there is no maps/game modes/forge lol Halo is not back

[@jasperfox6821]

@@FaceFish9 no....thats not true. You don't understand. The campaign was really enjoyable. I loved it infact. Yeah the multiplayer doesn't have content. But it's still very fun. To me. I really enjoyed infinite.

[@Dark_Tale]

"This place needs to be fun before it is pretty." Current 343, please take this comment to heart.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Substance over style.

[@wattosacrim]

Adrian Perez... that guy still works at Bungie ya know? lol

[@yimello6267]

Every AAA shooter dev nowadays needs to take note of this. Im finding a lot of maps in games that are designed by the art team.

[@tartusmaximus179]

they won't

[@b.l.a.c.k.s.t.a.r]

ShadowBrony I think 343 focused on fun too much and they forgot the serious bits like the story. The multiplayer which was supposed to be fun, was competitive maps. And just like that one Bungie developer said, "if you think your game is fun, it's not." You have to really think about your game and what can go, what can stay, and what needs to be implemented to make it even better.

[@giddycypress7831]

Bungie felt like a family that had a true passion for Halo but 343 feels like an empty shell.

[@showmewhatyougot1962]

I don't know why you're randomly talking about Bonnie Ross being sexist or whatever as that hardly has anything to do with what Giddy cypress is talking about but okay... You're right though. Ex bungie was pretty good. Bungie now pretty much sucks. And 343 has always pretty much sucked lol. Okay... Maybe that's not fair. They are okay now... But not great like halo 1,2,3, and Reach.

[@bradmeyer13]

giddy cypress I was the 117th like 😏

[@warriorsonofwanderer9678]

Above your pay grade Bungie now is still better than 343i. That's sad.

[@_Cato_]

Dragonderp69 Agreed. Destiny is better than Halo is nowadays.

[@yes5937]

Isiskos Aw yeah I love to grind with no real purpose but to get better weapons and experience shit dlc with a forgettable storyline and the only way to learn the lore being the grimoire cards.. that was my shit

[@thegreatsmol]

It still amazes me how Halo 2, a game that was rushed and put together by people who are burnt out but keep pushing, ended up being better than a whole trilogy made by a company with a bigger budget, more people and about a decades worth of time. I swear 343 had never played Halo until they get the rights to the game

[@McBoofus]

It was different with Bungie. They had passion for what they were doing and it's the reason why all of their games are held in high regard.

[@abusivecomments9608]

New halo is the best one in terms of gameplay

[@McBoofus]

@@abusivecomments9608 that can only go so far. What good is the gameplay when there's no context?

[@Debilm4nzs-zu9bc]

@@abusivecomments9608 feels good, still boring to play

[@starplatinum2743]

It doesn't feel good, play destiny 1 even for an hour and you will see how awful halo infinite feels

[@tropicalbreeze1164]

Good Devs: "I dont know if this is good enough, but this is my best" Other Devs: "It's Epic, revolutionary, and will change the way you play games forever"

[@lilmixdboy]

This

[@protercool8474]

"ambitious" is the biggest red flag, its like saying "there is a high probability this wont work"

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

@@protercool8474 "halo 5 is the most ambitious campaign to date" Has the shortest and worst campaign in the entire franchise.

[@danielpascual4015]

343: “This R awsim, it R betur than secks. Can we haz money now?”

[@bossabassa364]

Wow, that’s so true!

[@Dustyoo10]

One of the reasons I praise old Bungie is because they were literally just a bunch of nerds with a passion for making games.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Thank you BananaFist for being one of the few smart people that sees such a obvious thing. 343s business practices all pretty much scream "We just want your money and don't care about your game"

[@asneakychicken322]

Seeing the 343 devs all self-congratulatory over seeing their bloody lootbox system is all that needs to be shown or said about how much they don't care about actually playing or enjoying games seriously

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Bungie back then had talent and didn't seem to want to rape our wallets nearly as badly as 343 does. We would gladly give halo tons of money today if it was still... You know... GOOD?!?!?!?!!!! I have bought multiple copies of all the bungie halo titles. Can't say the same for 343s halo games. Haven't gotten any newer halo games since halo 4 lol. That one left a bad taste in my mouth. The problem is that the games are pretty "meh" under 343. Maybe not big riggs or super man 64 bad but still.... They are pretty bad especially when it comes to price. Gaming was cheaper once upon a time and wages used to be better so to see micro transaction trash like halo 5 flood the market is really just faggot shit lol. Don't forget guys... This is the company that sold us a 60 dollar drink coaster known as MCC. And then while failing to fix it to this very day... 343 came out to tell us that Halo 5 wouldn't suck like MCC lol. That's sad when you have to come out and tell us that your next game wont suck like your last game hahahaha. Here's the real funny part... Halo 5 did suck and still sucks even after updates. Shit story, codlike gameplay, weak/lack of content... especially at launch, micro transactions, and broken modes/glitches within forge, theater, and fire fight. The game really had a "we will fix it later with updates and patches" approach and they never really did fulfill that mind set with halo 5. The "free dlc" sounded nice but in reality it wasn't nice at all... The free DLC is just stuff that the game should have launched with. Clearly the game wasn't ready. They shouldn't launch a unfinished game. Makes for a bad first impression and shows that they are greedy. Also... Games that get updated can get better yeah sure... But that hardly ever happens and 343 sure as shit never seems to be able to pull it off. If they some how pull off a miracle and make halo 6 as good as a bungie halo game that doesn't have a super cod cloned feel to the game play, comes as a finished game, and doesn't have wallet raping... Then I will kiss 343s ass but lets get real here guys... THAT WONT HAPPEN LOL! RIP HALO! 2001- to whenever the fuck 343 started fucking shit up big time... Which is pretty much right when halo 4 launched and we got to see how crappy they truly are.

[@gally8138]

343 is just a bunch of smart asses who think every decision they make is a good decision

[@DanielPennybaker]

Oh god. When I saw Vault Boy I instantly thought of how this video is easily relatable to Fallout.

[@ian-op5fv]

The nerds are so much better than the corporate hipsters. RIP Halo.

[@masterchief________605]

Fax

[@masterchief________605]

They did kill me inside ruining my game

[@jmcauley650]

Capitalism is ruining gaming

[@mastershangchi3410]

@@masterchief________605 It hurts my soul to think about halo 4 and 5. They killed a part me.

[@gyula47236]

@@mastershangchi3410 well for me theyre definitely not as good as the first 3 and reach, but if you dont take them seriously theyre still pretty fun. what you said reminds me of how i feel about mass effect andromeda though, the existence of that story feels like the whole mass effect universe is lesser for it, despite it adding a whole new galaxy.

[@Bowielicius]

This aged so so well.

[@notagent4128]

i have a feeling its only going to age better as time goes on.

[@stoptiktok1691]

@@notagent4128 you're a prophet you know that

[@applehazeva2739]

yes...

[@lahcenebelbachir7929]

This will be a gathering place for future generations of Halo fans.

[@n1njahawkssecondchannel84]

@@notagent4128 it will

[@sharcblazer99]

343: "Cinematics and competitiveness!" Bungie: "Fun."

[@C.A._Old]

Bungie: ''Fun'' & Casual.

[@wizardgherkin]

u forgot l00tboxes

[@level100boss3]

"Needs to be fun before it's pretty", that line is reversed in games nowadays

[@bakpfeife2224]

Nintendo tho.

[@thickboi4304]

Level 100 Boss red dead redemption 2

[@KREllis-vr1ix]

Star Citizen says HI.

[@Welipe]

Yeah nintendo still does this, thats why I love them so much.

[@saadrai7381]

@@Welipe Aye. Nintendo has quite a few flaws as a company, but by God do they make good games. I guess putting more effort into a game's mechanics and making it fun is better than new and improved visuals.

[@Chreeeis]

6:55 There's something about seeing the "producers" gleam with joy over loot boxes that makes me sick to my stomach...

[@Dillman502]

You just know what they're thinking. "We're gonna be so fucking rich."

[@markheckerman7343]

Fucking assholes & their greed

[@jozinek876]

I smell pennies syndrome maybe?

[@bringerovlight8412]

All in denial lol that crippled halo 5

[@shootdown12]

Loot boxes... no, no they are "Surprise Mechanics" Cmonnnn man!!!

[@FishySwordfish]

This aged really well

[@commanderfa1con]

Unfortunately

[@AlexBell1991]

For the wrong reasons!

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

I wish it didn't

[@progenitor_amborella]

Seeing the top comment from 5 years ago “wait a minute”

[@pinged69]

so well that crowbcat came back to it

[@-Knave]

Could you imagine if 343 got the rights to minecraft? "Steve is human, he's not a machine, he's not a set of armor with a pickaxe."

[@bearpoop720]

Steve can beat lego batman (an absolutely vile and powerful being), and 343 will call him just a human

[@krebgurfson5732]

microsoft owns 343i and minecraft. 0.0

[@LILAC_CHAOS]

Combat Update be like

[@KyleTogrul]

"needs to be fun before it's pretty." rip bungie, you will be missed

[@JG-qb1un]

:(

[@anstytroll11]

RetardoTheGreat not good ones lmao

[@Agbahizzal]

That the perfect way to describe why most games suck. Because the communities is sold on graphics not gameplay.

[@JG-qb1un]

Agreed gameplay > graphics.

[@inthemindofag4972]

I mean, you can't bs on gameplay on E3 unless ur no man's sky and then we can return the game. However everyone BSes on graphics and have random ppl reading from a script to distract you from the fact that no one is doing anything different since ps2

[@Chosen2axe]

*343:* Master Chief is a human, hes not a piece of armor *Bungie:* Master Chief is a piece of armor, made to represent the player, we made the fucking character, we would know.

[@brd2406]

LegendaryWarrior Can Master Chef cook though.

[@kex2247]

fayno g lmao

[@OpticSpycrab_OG]

LegendaryWarrior but can he run crisis 3

[@V-V-Rune]

I always thought the Spartans, being human weapons designed not to feel, stop or surrender was something Halo had that made it unique. But then they decided to make Spartans people and the sacrifice of Noble team was pissed on in a few years.

[@inmortalwaffle101]

fayno g Do you think the ending of Halo 7 is master chef dealing with Gordon Ramsey?

[@arisumego]

This video desperately needs a sequel.

[@sublimeade]

a revolutionary, mind-blowing game changing sequel even better than the first?

[@rocklorito]

Check the pinned comment bro

[@Nmille98]

Don't worry, Microsoft is creating a studio just to give this video a sequel.

[@FerranCz]

Good news, crow did confirm a sequel

[@weqweqkweq7264]

Well you got what you wanted.

[@cogd1599]

All we have to thank 343 for is solidifying Bungie's legacy.

[@christianbethel]

*2001-2011 Bungie. Bungie today is a shell of its former self.

[@cogd1599]

@@christianbethel Definitely. They are a microtransaction peddling nightmare now.

[@christianbethel]

@@cogd1599 At least the MCC team is doing a hood job, but they still have a *_long_* way to go.

[@cesarst3720]

And saving Halo. People will just get mad by learning the truth. The more time it passes to more I respect 343.

[@helljumper7101]

@cesarst3720 I have not even heard a good opinion from anyone with that band kid pfp and today is no exception, 343 killed Halo and they deserve all the shit they get and more

[@damnijust]

"It needs to be fun before it is pretty" -Bungie, pure words of wisdom that I feel many games fail to realize these days.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

So true... Game play over graphics any day.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

As do I Khaikage... As do I... Maybe then games wouldn't suck so much... Check out the new cod wont work II? What a joke that game is lol.

[@ayumiwaru]

l am must agree, everyone is always concerned with their fucking graphics cards and framerates, lighting, textures, so many modern gamers are a fucking joke.

[@theobserver4214]

わるよ歩み framerates are important for a cinematic and smooth experience. Imagine playing Call of Duty 4 at a whopping 4fps. It would be unplayable

[@ayumiwaru]

i am not completely disregarding that they aren't important, no one would ever let a game pass for playing at 4 fps. I am saying so many modern gamers ONLY care about having optimal graphic settings, so much so that they don't even know how much fun they're actually having with games, just as long as it looks good. Games are supposed to be fun, but so many others are just caught up in how it looks.

[@TrueRetroflection]

Bungie: "How shall we impact the player the most?" 343: "Let's put in shit we think is cool!"

[@nicholaswiberly3825]

400th like!

[@WalshyRT]

The old halo Bungie yes. New destiny Bungie absolutely not.

[@ryanbarker3978]

@Walshie Nightly Destiny Bungie has completely ruined the namesake. I miss Halo Bungie.

[@tuscan9617]

Bungie: how can we make this level fun to play and make it so that it never gets repetitive? 343: how can we make this look pretty and get boring after a few play throughs?

[@idrinkmilk282]

Retroflection yet bungie made halo reach, adding in what they thought would be cool, and ruined their entire franchise in one fell swoop. It's all well and good blaming 343 for everything, but pay some attention and you'll see that the beginning of the end was with reach. Sprint, armor abilities, weapon bloom, no real rank system, shitty bland forge made maps. NO. FUCK bungie. They ruined halo forever. And now they're making one of the worst franchises of our modern day. Destiny. Garbage company.

[@AzureRoxe]

Bungie kept trying to show you how fun the game is. 343I kept trying to sell the game and use buzzwords.

[@ea09]

Ex-Bungie: "Game needs to be fun to play first." 343: "Players wanted a fun game, so we gave them pizza skins because fuck you."

[@RoachCatJr]

nothing wrong w wacky skins but i get what u mean

[@FaceFish9]

@@RoachCatJr there is something wrong with wacky skins, it breaks the aesthetic of the game, how are you supposed to take something seriously when someone is dancing half naked with Chief's helmet on with Pom Poms in hands? you wouldn't be able to be invested in the sad scene if that was the fact right? it's the same with wacky weird skins, if you want to make something serious, make it serious, if you want wacky, then make it wacky, but don't try to do both. Halo's style doesnt fit wacky skins, same as older CoD's and other games with more grim stories. that's a thing devs today don't realise, if something doesn't fit the aesthetic it doesn't belong there, end of story. look at games like Team Fortress 2, which started the whole craze around skins and lootboxes for the larger masses, it's made to be wacky from the start, hell it's just a mod of the Half-life 2 engine, with no great overarching story, simply "2 teams, go kill each other" so of course it fits a game like that, but ask yourself what does a pizza skin on Spartans armor give the spartan? is it going to make the battle this Spartan goes easier? is it a good camouflage? or is it just a distracting and weird thing that doesn't fit the whole style of the game?

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

@@FaceFish9 exactly. Imagine being another spartan, and you get your skull caved in by a mister chief shotgun.

[@FaceFish9]

@@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117 exactly, and i'll give skins that back in BO1 and MW2 while there were some very weird skins, i honestly liked the option to paint the gun in a camouflage, you know like a an actual army spec op might?

[@yellowdude9425]

A better version of the last sentence: F*CK YOU GIVE ME MONEY

[@JerryFreeman]

Fucking rest in peace, Halo.

[@bananaboy482]

what the fuck

[@Jp-bg3fc]

halo 3 was the Best Game Ever Remembering getting it on Christmas but now halo is trash it's 343 Fail for making halo the way it is today I'm sad now

[@Marmotus]

Press F to pay respects. [F]

[@MisterHotrod92]

When people used to tell me that Reach should have been the last Halo game, I disagreed with them. I told them that 343i would create great things. How wrong I was... Rest in Peace, my former favourite franchise...

[@Jp-bg3fc]

sad part is I can't play halo 3 or reach online i miss it but it's gone

[@scruffyea4062]

anyone noticed how bungie people looked like they would actually play halo (basically nice way of saying their nerds) and 343 people looked like hippies and people who just dont care

[@0Blueaura]

they're* :^(

[@Phoenix909TV]

ikr, I feel so bad for those passionate people. :(

[@randomdevildog8251]

Lol I thought they looked like hipsters who just wanted the halo game on their resume but I hear you

[@kaelanirevyruun1676]

Yeah, Bungie made halo to be a story about a lone soldier with almost infinite luck saving humanity over and over... And they made Reach purely to help non-lore buffs to understand why it's so important when Keyes says "Cortana, all I need to know is, *did we lose them*?", at the beginning of combat evolved. They ended Halo 3 the way they did cos what they basically did was took the Arbiter, sent him home and then had Cortana and the Master Chief drift until (presumably) they would eventually be found by humanity and the Chief would be brought home at long last. The reason Bungie had the Chief say "Wake me... when you need me" was probably only in part cos then they could wrap up the story of the master chief and then lay the Halo franchise to rest, and pursue new adventures and possibilities. They didn't want Halo to become a money machine... 343 should have taken up the story with the Arbiter instead, detailing him leaving earth and then exiting slipspace over Sanghelios all in the one cutscene, and maybe mention something along the lines of "Home... I never thought I would see it again..." And then have it skip ahead a bit and then put the player in the shoes of the Arbiter in the middle of a conversation as maybe idk, say... Lord Hood is briefing the Arbiter on a new threat to humanity, or maybe offering aid to help the arbiter reunite the Sangheli culture once more, and return it to how it was before the Covenant. Then maybe have the player go through missions, putting down terrestrial threats to the Sangheli and then skip ahead a bit to a human commander asking the Arbiter for aid in managing a new threat to humanity (The Flood maybe? Or possibly the Prometheans returning of their own volition, with the didact having been brought out of his slumber by scientists investigating a shield world (Probably Requiem again) and accidentally freeing him, and then have the next few missions or so focused around the Arbiter and some elites maybe teaming up with UNSC forces to take down the didact and ensure that this time he won't come back again. that's one game down... Say they want to make another, perhaps put you in the shoes of a SPARTAN IV who is sent to investigate the distress beacon of a ship thought to have faded into legend: The UNSC Spirit of Fire. you go in, boots get on the ground and then at the end of the first level, you find the crashed remains of the UNSC Forward Unto Dawn which contains the data ghost of Cortana and the still cryo frozen Chief... something happens and he gets thawed out, but the hatch won't open and the Chief can't get it open from inside. So you have to do a quicktime event to punch the glass and get him out... He asks about Cortana, and then sees that Cortana is no more, with only a data ghost of herself left in the system cos it's been so long. then he returns to earth and mourns her loss... While you and the Arbiter perhaps, or maybe other Spartans go on the offensive against the remaining forces of the Promethean army. you still get the "No! Cortana's dead!" moment, and find out what happened to the Master Chief... but then he's taken out for the moment from the story, and eventually returns, looking much older, and lo and behold, he is an instructor, maybe providing a mentor figure for a SPARTAN VI program... If I were to take a side in the current split in the Halo community... I would be on the Bungie side. Halo 4's story was cool... But Halo 5 was NOT a true halo game. They retconned their own previous game, just cos people got cranky about them taking Cortana out... She was in the middle of Rampancy, which was also in Bungie canon if I remember right... So yeah. We'll just have to see if 343 can turn everything around and revive the Halo franchise when they (eventually) come out with Halo 6.

[@Helljumper7200]

Twylite Fang "Wake me when you need me." When I played Halo 4 I expected Chief to be saving the galaxy in epic fashion... but all I got was a depressing story about his "humanity", with lame music, lame armor, call of duty-esque features, and although the Didact is cool.. he pretty much killed the "mystery" of the forerunners.. as far as I'm concerned Halo 4, 5,& 6 are non-canon.

[@Spiderwolfer]

10:30 this is probably one of if not THE biggest reason that bungie’s halo was more fun. It’s like a group of casual gamers got together and decided to make a game. Halo was something everyone could enjoy.

[@EvilPhoenix007]

And then 4, 5 and Infinite came. And the birth of rabid 343 fanboys.

[@Vanished584]

@@EvilPhoenix007 Let them have their empire of dirt. Halo 2 3 and wars aint going anywhere..

[@basedsneedclave175]

“We don’t want it to just feel like just clearing another room of enemies” 343 level designers really failed to understand that for halo infinite

[@ky5666]

I hate so many modern games because they feel like this. No art or creativity. Just more "content".

[@NPFfumbi]

@@ky5666I just expect it now

[@LILAC_CHAOS]

Game devs really need to study being DnD DMs, crafting encounters is super fucking important in games and if you don't know how to push your players then you're just not a good DM.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

I love how 343i always talked about how competitive their game would be, yet the competitive community hates it. Whereas Bungie always emphasized fun, but still managed to satisfy BOTH the causal and competitive communities.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

wat?

[@TheMrPROS]

Sloth from The Goonies I know this comment is a month old, but do you remember Reach? That game butchered the competitive scene.

[@Slender_Man_186]

+John Adams nope, everyone pretty much loved that game.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

Slender Man 186 Truth be told, it wasn't great or the competitive scene. And was less successful than Halo 3. even in term of player retention.

[@Slender_Man_186]

+Sloth from The Goonies while true it's still the most played of the Bungie games, getting about 10k players per day.

[@krytera3154]

The skin montage made me cringe so much..

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic6164]

amen to that

[@krytera3154]

Negative, the damn cockroachs are crafty now days.

[@shambles3458]

how?

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic6164]

Matthew Russell thats why they raise millions of dollars towards MLG, right...

[@17joren]

+Shambles Because it feels like they're shitting on the franchise. It's like if you're a true Star Wars fan, you're conflicted at the state of things. It's good your franchise is getting a revival and moving past the prequels, but some of the things being done to it just hurt you inside.

[@Sneed-tb4ge]

They cancelled split screen lol

[@slenderman8038]

This video just keeps continuing to age like wine.

[@badiie05]

Aged so well its more relevant now with his newest upload

[@waldo8158]

Now I know who fucked up Halo, the director said he wanted "an emotional halo" jeez, they turned an epic story into a Mexican novela but even Mexican novelas have a good story.

[@TheScopeo]

bungie: needs to be fun 343: needs to be pretty

[@vatz1151]

TheScopeo pretty/competitive af to a dumb level.

[@ridheesh4765]

TheScopeo they would make the perfect baby

[@CSOINFINITY]

talk with ur wallets. dont buy 343 bullshit.

[@eM-kb6sm]

Halo 5 has good multiplayer thats it. Halo 4 was garbage. At least Halo 5 did it good enough to get back onto the MLG pro circuit. The campaign was god awful tho!

[@petersharr6845]

eM97 Halo was never meant to be on the competitive circuit. They have a thousand fps games on the market that cater to that crowed. Halo was always about the experience of the individual and made you feel apart of a community and care about the characters and have fun. It always stressed creativity and design, but now it's all about attracting more players making more money and being pretty and relevant rather than good. They bought this Game and it's rights to make money and buy a fan base, because it was a good "investment" not because they cared about it or its history and story. All I'm saying is they took the game that alot of us grew up around and used it to make a name for themselves and make money and it hurts to see something we loved gutted and replaced. It's like watching someone tear down or bulldoze a park, maybe even an arcade you spent a lot of your life around to build a mall. Most of us have just accepted that what we loved is dead and that's that. Sure we all secretly hope it isn't or that it makes a comeback into our hearts but it's just a different thing now with the same face. We are just sad, that's all.

[@rhysnichols8608]

" People want weapon skins, we see a clear need there " Who the actual fuck asked for weapon skins, are 343 just making shit up now, as an excuse to add more shit?

[@MisterHotrod92]

But but but... Who DOESN'T want stupid pizza AR skins?!?!? I mean, obviously Pizza AR is better than having a complete and functional game with all of the classic gametypes, right? Gosh, how DARE the community try to tell 343i what they want from a game! Don't people know that 343i is the best company ever and they and their games are absolutely completely perfect? Clearly, Halo 5's story was amazing, and the players are just stupid for not understanding it.

[@xSpArKsNYCx]

Rhys Nichols mabey there listiening to call of duty fans instead of halo fans

[@rhysnichols8608]

Exactly well said they want to please all the other FPS players except halo

[@drifter402]

I'm pretty sure even casuals don't like this novelty shit. It cheepens the game so much. It reminds me of those shitty F2P games like Crossfire. I really noticed when the newest COD had dancing multicoloured robots spouting memes and dabbing. I think that's why normalfags like COD 4 so much.

[@jamjox9922]

If you are actually a casual...you don't have TIME for unlocking skins and other bullshit, you just want the CORE GAME! I feel it's more Microsoft than 343 though. They want more money and they will push the game in awkward ways to get it. Even if it makes the game suck. It's part of the reason Bungie left Microsoft, they were always making compromises to the game. It's a miracle Halo 1-3 were as good as they were.

[@YurtLurt]

“WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO HALO!?” 343i: That’s the point, we’re ruining it.

[@aidanwagner3782]

Garners more attention.

[@6bambolbi6]

6:44 I watched the Halo Infinite setember 2022 dev update. When that guy told Halo was very competitive, it was in it's DNA since the first Halo, I could only think about this part from this video. It's like nothing changed.

[@Scoin0]

I love the older video game industry. They truly cared about what they created and wanted their product to show it. Now it's just about the money.

[@1245bigmoney]

Scoin0 same here

[@roddydykes7053]

Scoin0 yeah no joke, the world is sick and greedy since dlcs have given way to season passes and micro-transactions

[@tdub3366]

Old Bungie & Old Infinity Ward! We should bring them back to the industry! Lol they're probably all old but still could make a better game then these new publishing groups..

[@SoapWasTaken]

Scoin0 Not nintendo at least. they still make quality games.

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

MY LE NOSTALGIA. DEVELOPERS MADE THESE TRIPLE A TITLES AS A CHARITY TO THE FANS, IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY, NOW ITS ONLY ABOUT DA MONEY. Gimme a break. There are plenty of triple A titles with fantatsic developer support and a slew of indie games as well. Just because Cod and Shattlefield are getting progressively greedier doesn't mean the whole industry is.

[@voidishprattles4319]

Bungie is like: "How do we make all these aliens feel believable and intimidating?" 343: "my aliens can teleport, and they're way cooler than the covenant"

[@hattedsandwich2415]

343 are the kind of people that only play Tau

[@_IcyCube_]

Bungie aren't doing very well themselves either right now.

[@rdowg]

@@_IcyCube_ and Bungie is just a shell of its former self, after reach a large portion of veteran staff left, or stayed just long enough to be bought byActivision. They're Bungie in name only these days.

[@magicmonster3]

@dee dee based on what?

[@pierreo33]

@dee dee they're not based, child

[@platrover5110]

No joke i always get teary when thinking back to the time were i sit in my room playing halo 2 or 3 till morning on the weekends and having a blast in custom playlists with friends. Nowadays i never had an experience like that ever again. Im srsly glad i had these games when i grew up the 2000-2010 where the pinnacle of gaming and i glad i fully experienced it.

[@yukowolfang8645]

Halo, Bioshock, DeadSpace, Borderlands, Gears of War, Left 4 Dead. I wish I could go back to that time.

[@nighthawk244]

It's crazy that there are TEENAGERS who never experienced this era of gaming. It makes me sad honestly

[@cornshub5187]

@@nighthawk244 Yeah, the enjoyment i've seen on the faces of those people who played those games together back then made me really happy. I'm a 2006 world joiner so the only sort of excitement i've had in gaming that could compare to those guys would probably be my time playing rainbow six siege with some friends back in 2017 as well as when I used to play assassin's creed unity co-op (Although there weren't that many people to play with).

[@Advancedgod]

"Master Chief is not a machine... He's not a set of armour with a big weapon." "The success of the story is that we didn't put a lot of time in figuring out who the Master Chief was, and why he was a ghost in the shell... He's a husk, he's a big green suit of armour that you move around" LMAO

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

He's a big angry green armor that you kill aliens with.

[@czarnakoza9697]

Chief is literally RoboCop in cooler armor

[@dannyboy5008]

"We know that there are people who love sprint, and there are halo fans who hate sprint, so we found a nice middle ground by including sprint"

[@alejandroe.zunigasanchez259]

And making it 10 times worse

[@jakpote88]

I dont have a problem with sprint on reach tbh... But i understand people who hate it... When i play halo 2 i dont feel like i need to sprint

[@beefs0ck911]

They could’ve just increased movement speed by 1 and avoided the whole problem. Armor abilities made sense in Reach since those Spartans were weaker in canon, but including it in a game where you play as a Spartan with the latest armor, it doesn’t make any fucking sense. The climb mechanic was a shit decision as well.

[@2lycos]

@@beefs0ck911 I want you to explain how them making it easier to traverse your environment in satisfying and meaningful ways is a bad mechanic? there's an unbelievable amount of times in Halo 3 where I just wished that I could grab and scramble up a ledge or it felt like Chief should be able to sprint. Like after chief kills guilty spark and has to leave quickly, running across that bridge, chief SPRINTS in the cutscene. the only thing I could think was, "a super soldier, with cybernetic super armor, just now learned how to sprint after 3 games?" I mean it's strange that it took so long to add climb and sprint when they both felt like they belonged since the beginning. Built in boosters, better movement and sprinting is the best changes to Halo ever. 343 did plenty of horrible things to Halo but fixing the overly heavy and slow chief from 3 is not one of them.

[@topkek7587]

​@@2lycos yes the argument of "HES A SUPER SOLDIER HE CAN SPRINT!!" lmao, so we need to have realism? Where is the realism in a thruster system that can lift an insane super soldier plus a suit of armor that weighs half a ton? The game doesn't have a fuel gauge and it seems like you have infinite thrust, is that scientifically explained in the game? Not really. Not to mention the fact that guess what, if clamber was added in halo 3 all the ledges you weren't able to get on now would just be raised so you couldn't even clamber to get on. Map design buddy.

[@Sushi_bar]

Passionate people VS people who get paid to make games.

[@TangentialShark]

Bungie made Halo 1-3 and REACH for free?

[@Sushi_bar]

thats.... not what i meant.

[@Doctor_Pazuzu]

I wish we had more passionate people who are still competent at their jobs nowadays. 343 doesn't seem like that type of people.

[@Alex2K]

True

[@omnissiah1119]

Thank you! There is no passion at 343, just corporate bullshit, they say things to please, not because they mean it.

[@Likitu264]

This aged like fine wine

[@atomicplayboy6680]

Practically every other sentence from a Bungie dev was talking about how important it was for them to put fun before other design considerations. I don't think the 343 team even used the word "fun" once in this video.

[@notsojharedtroll23]

I'll say that that even applies to software development in general.

[@postalknight69]

You can tell the difference just in how they talk, with bungie being super chill and casual about it, using everyday words, and 343 being super corporate and using this complex words so the people watching think it's important and smart

[@VectormanRxQueen]

MailIsLucktastic yea

[@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039]

I think It's the people making the video, scripting them to say what they think the audience wants. Big corporations tend to do this with big advertising departments. They make it so flashy and clean because they can, which loses some of the 'honest quality' behind it all.

[@MasouShizuka]

Yeah. It's like 343's talk somehow feels robotic. Un-natural. It just makes me gloss over their crap and never listen to it. I personally felt some of the Bungie's feelings behind it. It's almost personal. Like there is drive, abit of passion in how they talk.

[@luminatron]

@RARAYAYA RAA Edgy.

[@luminatron]

@RARAYAYA RAA ok salty boi

[@doctordiscord1399]

Bungie: With weapons, they need to be fun shooting, and fun being shot at. 343 studios: P I Z Z A

[@SomeGuy-iq7bm]

Doctor Discord, I died a little inside.

[@davidn4956]

343 did a MUCH better job in this regard. Bungie's guns felt powerless and floaty.

[@phaenix_9846]

@Deathtrooper40 H5 was peashooters no go pa POW. peashooter go pew pew.

[@jaythomas468]

Is this a Reality Bites reference?

[@imapigeon7984]

@@davidn4956 so You Saying That *Every* Weapon In Bungies Halo Is Powerless? Remember When In Halo If You Have A Normal Assault Rifle In Bungies Multiplayer (Except Reach) It Can Kill A Guy In *Titanium* Armor Note *TITANIUM* ARMOR The Ingame Mutiplayer Spartans Wear Titanium Armor In The Lore And Every Weapon In Halo And Kill A Man In Titanium Armor Fact. Yes In Halo 3 I Personally Didn't Like That Every Weapon Is A Projectile And I Think That's What You're Referring To By "Floaty"

[@viddykhaos2896]

“It’s needs to be fun before pretty” “What it comes down to it getting together with people” “You hate it but you love and you got to play again” Bungie understood that Halo didn’t need to be overly complex or over designed or “competitive” or revolutionary. It needed to be endless fun, that you can pick up and play whenever with whomever, and master the game over time while having fun. 343 saw this franchise as nothing more than shiny marketing opportunities and a money making machine.

[@silentshill2687]

8:22 I love how 343’s like “as intimidating it is to follow Marty’s scores” and then it just cuts to Marty vibing.

[@thepie193]

the moment they had a quick time event... I knew... Halo was gone..

[@NancyNightmare13]

The Pie yea!!! i whas like: "really a qte? fk you 343" then i go to Destiny

[@royalraptor6245]

sooooo literally less then 5 min into halo 4? lol

[@thepie193]

Royal Raptor yip, face to face with an even uglier brute with an energy sword

[@royalraptor6245]

hahahahaha

[@nizzleprizzle9783]

The Pie yeah the moment where you have to climb an elevator shaft and then throw an elite over the edge in halo 4.

[@xViperGTR]

Seeing Joesph Staten get removed the other day hurts because they really brought him back to be used as a puppet for pr just to move him

[@JamiePryke]

Halo 3 STILL holds up. It still plays great, it still looks great and the score is still top notch. A legendary game, especially for those of us who were there on our 360's shouting at each other. It was my, and many other's first ever experience of proper online gaming. Completing the campaign on legendary splitscreen with my friend is a lasting memory for me. 343 just doesn't get it.

[@RossMitchellsProfile]

Pretty much, Halo 3 was probably one of the best and most feature complete games I have ever played. I can't think of many other games where putting "Complete multiplayer experience" on the multiplayer disk wouldn't sound like hubris but halo 3's multiplayer definitely earned that. Sadly 343 fucked it up with MCC by having us play it through their sloppy slow disorganised menu system and shit matchmaking system. It's just not the authentic complete Halo 3 experience that it should have been purely because of 343's incompetence.

[@notlNSIGHT]

@@RossMitchellsProfile Im honestly not having much difficulty with the menus

[@blakefuechtmann]

Xbox One and Series X should allow Halo 2 and Halo 3 online multiplayer with the Xbox 360 discs. That would be life changing.

[@Jermrants]

Halo reach is the greatest game ever created

[@2RandomStudios]

"If a game doesn't entertain us in five minutes we stop playing it" ~The team that made the library level

[@TheCrazeturk]

LMAO

[@as7river]

I don't know what it is with me, I know the Library is the most dreaded Halo level, and yet somehow I find it to be tons of fun. That's just me.

[@generaljeanmoreau6853]

@@as7river Its called nostalgia and its not good because it meddles with your personally feelings

[@as7river]

@@generaljeanmoreau6853 "Nostalgia is not good because it meddles with your feelings", now that's a first. It's not open heart surgery dude, it's a game. Nostalgia's fine.

[@generaljeanmoreau6853]

@@as7river I meant that when people try to argue with facts they use nostalgia like "I have so many memories on halo 3 that's why its the best halo" Something like that

[@samkingofthedank]

"A leap for Halo multiplayer" Leaves out split screen and system link entirely.

[@hyliandragon5918]

Their back baby!

[@microwaveramen512]

No theyre both back, they announced it a good while ago i believe

[@Marcus01285]

@@microwaveramen512 in halo 5?

[@Mhats]

the future is the cloud. do you wonna come to future with me? do you wonna come to the future?

[@SoulTransient]

They didnt say which direction

[@SorcererVtuber]

I feel like Bungie was a close knit group of people who weren’t afraid to tell each other when something sucks, versus 343, who are probably too scared to contradict each other, and instead just nod and clap their hands to whatever idea their higher-ups come up with cause telling someone the work they did isn’t good is just “too toxic of a work environment”

[@cabnbeeschurgr6440]

Having a corporate board that actually gives a shit about making a good product is especially rare these days.

[@crashbandicoot5636]

6 years later, Crowbcat is still *furious* with 343 industries lol

[@ralleks]

and with VERY good reasoning after Infinite's launch...

[@Philitron128]

We all are. I played the campaign and still left disappointed. How do you make a Halo story boring? Just from a story perspective? Insane

[@manmythlegend807]

343i lack the passion and imagination that Bungie had. Simple. 343 view it as a job to make money, and Bungie did it because it's what they loved. Microsoft took a flagship creation and handed to the worst developers they own.

[@Razgriz_01]

Not just him. A lot of us are. I feel like Halo really will die soon. And with a whimper no less. A decade of 343i and they keep fucking it up.

[@iFloops]

3:20 "You can have all the great graphics, and all the different characters, and lots of different weapons with amazing effects... But if you don't nail that '30 seconds,' you're not gonna have a great game." That quote has been cemented in my mind since I was a preteen, watching my idols (then and now) talk about their craft on the Halo 2 bonus disk. Oldschool Bungie had some of the most skilled, dedicated, and authentic game developers of all time. You can easily gleam just how much they love what they do, along with their doubts, insecurities, and recognition of their few shortcomings. They poured everything they had into the original Halo trilogy. Mind, heart, and soul. Not because of the profit, or their "brand," or for Microsoft. They made Halo because they believed in their vision to create fun for us, the players. To this day, old friends and I laugh about a handful of shared memories from Halo 2's multiplayer, a game we played well over a decade ago. Thank you for this video, CrowbCat. Please continue to make content. You and the original Bungie devs share an understanding of what makes games great, and what makes them have REQ-packs.

[@jroyalll]

iFloop beautiful 😢

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Satoro Awata or however you spell his name said the same thing. Games should be for fun. Not so much for flashy visuals or some other crap... FUN! The man wasn't perfect but who is? He meant well and did great things for gaming is what matters most.

[@suwatsaksri7191]

iFloop That line fits so perfectly with Halo 5 having too many underdevelopted characters

[@gpheonix1]

I'd have to disagree with that whole 30 seconds quote. That's fundamentaly different from what bungie previously wanted which was make the game fun. I digress, for it's all about the weapon variety and balance. If you don't have that you wont have a fun game period.

[@joaoricardo2983]

iFloop i

[@jfcmsb]

"Expand our audience" = "We're going to make this game generic as fuck". Seriously developers, don't aim to please everybody, aim to make a damn good fucking game that hits the high notes in specific places, that differentiates itself from the crowd, one that's crafted from innovation. Then people will buy your games

[@ethanstapley3881]

Hopefully, a bit of luck may be required; overall, yes you're right, definitely.

[@Doogle946]

"We want to make that Call of Duty money, mang." -343 Industries

[@Banzay27]

Actually, it means they want to expand sales. They don't want to release classics, they want to release instant cash cows.

[@MaxBlasto]

problem is .....they are buying their games ....

[@1r0zz]

ad sells today games. not brands or quality...

[@nuvotion-live]

Even the old graphics look better. They feel more grounded and less cartoony.

[@as7river]

They feel like whoever worked on them (my boy Shi Kai Wang, you rock) was enjoying what he was doing, with a passion.

[@michaelmerritt7406]

I'm angry at 343 for botching Halo... Again. And I'm angry at myself for thinking they'd get better with Infinite. Never again.

[@g0g0duck20]

I can't believe that people design loot box animations and say yes, wow, incredible.

[@numpty94]

Cameras rolling boys, work it

[@serahbay8864]

✨i have given you the 117th like ✨

[@sean8102]

That part right there said the most to me.

[@MrResidenteviladdict]

@@DemonSnacks 1000% yes

[@Seki..]

@@DemonSnacks Yes

[@shanemcdowell3628]

Halo 3 should have been the end. "Finish the Fight" means nothing now.

[@donuts6847]

Indeed, reach was not that bad other then there were a lot of screw ups within the lore. As a game and how much time the story had I would say it was a really great ending to the series.

[@easucks1776]

Shane McDowell the legendary ending of Halo 3 teased Requiem (which we see in Halo 4) and Bungie actually briefly worked on Halo 4 before deciding to make Halo reach instead. Not even bungie wanted the halo story to end at Halo 3

[@Xecnalxes]

Shane McDowell It does for me lol I've decided Halo 4 and beyond are not part of Halo lol

[@oKINGMXLo]

Shane McDowell i personally dig halo 4 where they took the the story but halo 5 was a disaster

[@patrickthomas8101]

it teased Something but not conformed like it could have been the Arbiters Ship or the SUN!!!

[@sIsReal]

Bungie felt like a team of friends making a game that not only the fans loved, but they also loved

[@MasonAveKid437]

I love the footage of Marty and Staten watching the Betcha can’t stick it for the first time. Marty’s reaction and how Joe responds. Staten really is a good dude who understands the mission at hand. Make a compelling and fun game that millions will enjoy because at its core is a lot of heart and soul.

[@TheGililgi]

It’s crazy because watching the bungie interviews. They literally Left a Script on what to do with Halo....and 343 threw it all away smh.

[@aamir1972]

Darryl Wait where is that?

[@TheGililgi]

Aamir 1 just listen to how Bungie is describing their game and what to focus on what not to focus on...then look at what 343’s main focus is.

[@DevinMarkovichMetal]

Makes me sick.... fuck 343. Infinite better be damn good.

[@juanmanuelcorrea7673]

@@DevinMarkovichMetal it won't. It's gonna be a live service...

[@bluebattlehawk]

@Elena Monfils fuck

[@ZaLewdWarudo]

Stopped at Reach, guess I made the right decision.

[@Ae7herium]

You really did, i still had hope but H5 destroyed that.

[@Samseneider]

Halo 5 multi-player is amazing tbh

[@Ae7herium]

+Samseneider Not according to the current player population. lol

[@ruruisu]

Yasuri?

[@KevinBowie]

ME TOO! I also did the same for Gears of War, I stopped at the third one.

[@nopmop4248]

This aged like the finest wine 🍷 I come back once in a while to remind myself what 343 did. Remember that when they post an update and say everything gets better eventually™

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

When it should be ready right from the start.

[@langleysenterprise5134]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo well, you can't win them all

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@langleysenterprise5134 What’s that supposed to mean?

[@langleysenterprise5134]

@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo it means do not expect too much or too high from people

[@Blue-Apple-fc9eo]

@@langleysenterprise5134 So i am right?

[@Brawlskater]

Hearing Marty’s beautiful crowd singing 8:26 the halo themes always give me chills. No digital crap like 343. Just pure, honest love for a game.

[@ryanciesiolka9435]

I miss split screen games... guess that's what laptops are for now

[@BigWheel.]

Gears of war and borderlands m'man

[@ryanciesiolka9435]

JARXAVIER2112 2 games are not enough... especially since Borderlands get old pretty quick

[@BigWheel.]

Ryan Ciesiolka Well pc has old PlayStation ports right?

[@ParanoiaGentlman]

Switch ;)

[@easucks1776]

Halo wars 2 and Halo 6 will. other have Splitscreen it's confirmed

[@M0nkeyBoy1321]

when profit out weighs pride and passion.

[@babymonster32ify]

Choa Ming Guy its really sad to think about

[@ThePilot3332]

at least we have games, unlike the commies

[@someblackguy7371]

the thing about Tetris is BULLSHIT, the government tried to own the right for an INDIVIDUALS work. Fuck communism, Capitalism, and Socialism.....just HUMANITY... Period. It's always bout the Individual, or else Tetris have NO fucking creator.

[@nazbolandstrasserismforeve6918]

Lone Drifter You are russian? you are russian like russian is pole. socialism? i dont care. capitalism? i dont care. but you are not us. like lenin have said, you are more like ukropi. no argument, just thought. russia was built on work of lenin, not nicholas. with no stalin we would be like old germany. if you are even slavic the i am suprised. shame to you. Пошел ты. Sorry for poor english.

[@nazbolandstrasserismforeve6918]

GOMMUNISM Strikes Again! Да. Я удивлен, что вы знаете русский.

[@ilovelax9011]

343’s leadership and Microsoft still hasn’t taken notes after 5 years...

[@manuxalfhalo]

Damn this video aged like wine

[@joelnorthup4033]

My favorite bit from this has to be watching the Bungie team play testing halo together and just going crazy, and then we pan over to 343 who are testing out opening loot boxes together.

[@DevinMarkovichMetal]

Greed. Makes me so fucking sad. Halo could STILL be amazing.... I wish someone had the money and proper individuals to take back the Halo franchise, and keep the legacy that Bungie created moving.....

[@nabieladrian]

@@DevinMarkovichMetal "Evil cannot create, only corrupt."

[@Wuunderboy]

@@nabieladrian simple yet powerful words!

[@nohints]

Man, I miss when games were made by gamer nerds. Not hipster pseudogamers.

[@largebaboon5559]

Yeah, but think of all that diversity we got eh ?

[@gabrielsmith9393]

@@largebaboon5559 lmao

[@ProVision3187]

Couldn't of said it better

[@bing7023]

You can tell by just the way they look, one is talking about how they want to "deepen the story" while it looks like they have been sipping on their mocha latte braiding their individual beard hairs. While the nerds are made a game that is actually fun and has a story and gameplay that wasn't stolen from CoD.

[@Azure_Six]

That's the most accurate explanation I've ever heard.

[@420BudNuggets]

Bungie - let’s make the best game possible 343 - let’s make as much money as possible

[@turututu2113]

Old Bungie: Let's Make Art Old/Now 343i: Fuck you?

[@RainusBrainus]

"Master Chief is a human, not a robot" He is BARELY human. The sheer amount of biological and technological augmentations that went in to making him have significantly altered his emotional and logical reasoning. In the books it was pretty much spelled out that he was programed mentally by his military training and then the slew of hormones and tech they put in him set that training in stone. His frickin nervous system is connected to his suit and an AI. He has slightly more empathy than Robocop. No Nicki, he is not "just a human".

[@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117]

He's essentially a t 800 with some humanity in him

[@ThatBlueSkull]

Makes sense in halo 1 - 3 the game basically makes you feel like a walking weapon of war

[@opticalraven1935]

Not only that but Chief also had good friends, a dry sense of humor and was sarcastic sometimes, got mad, etc. Even though he had all of that augmentation done to him, he was still human. He was sutble when showing his emotions (he's military, for Odin's sake, I expect him to have a handle on his emotional state). Honestly, he kinda reminded me of sone of my family and family friends that served in the military. Calm, reserved, etc.

[@jdlamb4212]

He's a boring character

[@ZorroCeleste1]

It would be acceptable to start showing his human side from Halo 4 onwards; new trilogy and all. Shame they took away the catalyst for it (Cortana's death) and threw everything under the rug.

[@Syphian]

Man, those guys at Bungie really knew what they was doing.

[@Doogle946]

You can tell they really cared too. "If you think that what you're making is the greatest thing ever all the time, then it's not gonna be the greatest thing ever." If only most devs still had that attitude, not even just Halo 3. Bungie were the realist niggas around.

[@IPFreelly604]

not anymore though

[@specter_of_thestars2500]

+Snoopy true words have never been spoken snoop.....

[@Doogle946]

I mean to say "not even just 343" but you know what I mean. lol

[@Andy_den]

+Snoopy That was Activision who messed up Bungie, not Bungie themselves. I think they can make a comeback. Believe.

[@kaseycombs6968]

“If you somehow believe that what you’re doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it’s absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever.” I’m putting that up on a wall, that is wisdom in its purest form.

[@nutterbutterman8609]

Sounds like Neil druckman imo. Regardless of what you think of the last of us 2. He’s really cocky now any thinks everything he touches is incredible. Go back and watch the god of war documentary and Cory Barlog is constantly filled with doubt and feels like everyone will hate his game.

[@kaseycombs6968]

Nutterbutterman the best developers see the faults in themselves and their games and work as hard as they can to minimize/fix them. If you think you’re hot stuff, you’re not going to see where you’re going wrong.

[@Vizimech]

Tbf Valve did pretty great things thinking that

[@TOSPEEDFIRE13]

💯 self criticism is key at perfercting one's work, it needs to be exactly as you want it to be, if you think you're already perfect or doing something perfect or absolutely great all the time then you're actually never gonna make this thing great. It's like saying the battle is already won before it started, this kind of overconfidence is a plague to any type of work or action in life.

[@TOSPEEDFIRE13]

@@kaseycombs6968 Exactly, they know themselves and their work and how it all works out, they know exaclty what they absolutely need to improve otherwise it's not gonna have the effect they want it to have and be

[@sneedclavehere8918]

Oh man, this keeps aging like fine wine lmao

[@natural997]

Bungie: "If you somehow believe that what your setting out to do is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever." 343: This game is perfect. *proceeds to make worst halo game in series.*

[@cesarst3720]

Halo 3 is the worst game in the series.

[@Sc4r1_]

@@cesarst3720lol nice bait, if you really believe that you’re beyond delusional

[@cesarst3720]

People will just get mad if you say the truth, deal with it.@@Sc4r1_

[@Hova]

This is amazing. RIP Bungie

[@mrmalad1]

assfuck

[@DEADLYANTDX]

+Fred Lavar Steenerson Stevens Herbert Why are you doing this sir?

[@DEADLYANTDX]

Fred Lavar Steenerson Stevens Herbert YOU KNOW WHAT??? Take your childish butt and go some place

[@Basuko_Smoker]

+DEADLYANT get mad kid

[@freshdookie3979]

Dude, 343 destroyed the Halo franchise. Bungie had more passion and were detailed in there explanations.

[@Cheesedragon117]

Played Halo 3 as a tween on the special Green and Gold 360. This hurts me in more ways you can imagine. "Don't her her go.......don't you EVER let her go..."

[@Cheesedragon117]

It WAS a long time ago, nearly a decade now.

[@Cheesedragon117]

Why? I'd like to continue myself.

[@Dycewyfe]

Cheesedragon117 Nah not you bro, talking to *****, youtubes fucked up

[@zack_gold]

face it Fallout 4 Call of Duty Black Ops 3 are way better than call of Halo: Star Wars 5

[@jamiep4674]

Zack L. Jones dude black ops 3 is dog shit

[@purpleperfection6304]

"What's to keep the player from skippng this?" I fuckin love that. Every game should make an effort to have more enjoyable cutscenes (ESPECIALLY ANIME TIE IN GAMES)

[@john5150.]

Shout out to every single one of you who was there until the bitter end of the OG server sunset. That was some of the best Halo I’ve ever played. No gaming experience will ever come close to this era of Xbox 360 Halo. This was more than a game - it was something you grew up with. This shared experience is ours forever

[@DaremythNL]

I wished i could go back to that time... Met so many random people, played day after day with those new made online friends, had fun with each match, did campaign on splitscreen with my highschool buddy etcetcetc. Will there ever be a game this great?

[@jamesondoane32]

5:49 "Not halo 2, not something in the middle, but to make it"- "Call of Duty, Black Ops III!" And this is how Halo died :'(

[@YLS8763]

Jameson Doane that's not at 5:48

[@jamesondoane32]

Damn. That was sensitive. 5:49. Fine.

[@YLS8763]

Jameson Doane damn actually i think my video was loaded strangely the last time i watched it, at 5:48 they were talking about the trip mine for me, but now it's the "make it blops 3" scene

[@YLS8763]

Jameson Doane also btw i found that 5:45 was the best time to start it. That way, you catch the full quote

[@thomasjefferson2813]

When will Activision buy halo?

[@Vusevio]

Just pretend the story ended at Halo 3 and pretend the games ended at Reach, that way everyone wins

[@F0XHunter]

Spursy can't with that legendary ending

[@IceLizardsUnited]

Spursy Halo 4 and 5 are basically just badly written halo fanfiction when you think about it.

[@F0XHunter]

***** 5 yes, but 4?

[@Boshyson]

bro 4 was trash too

[@F0XHunter]

Ryan .Boshyson not really

[@ThePwnageHobo]

This. My housemate was like "let's play through all the Halo games" and I was like "Nah, let's play 1-3"

[@EvilPhoenix007]

*And ODST and Reach

[@turututu2113]

*And Halo Wars

[@Killcamp]

this video made me tear up. how did we become so soulless how is everything so sanitized so characterless so boring in just a decade. If I had a time machine I would travel back 15 years and just chill out with my friends while playing old games there is nothing I want more than that.

[@MODERN-GAMING-IS-TRASH]

Everything truly is soulless trash these days lol creativity is lost by SJW retards

[@sevenchambers]

Same

[@Inojin67]

Get out of the AAA rut and play some indie games on steam. It's okay to play games that don't have cutting-edge graphics, my friend. Big budgets constrain gameplay in so many ways

[@Killcamp]

@@Inojin67 indie games are mostly single player and have a really chill community. I am looking for the toxicity like mw2

[@Inojin67]

@@Killcamp I've seen some wild shit in MK11 voice chat, if you really need that kind of negativity in your life

[@infinitevoid2964]

I just hate the Hollywood style approach with games in general lately. Every cutscene is just a fucking Michael Bay movie.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Seriously! That's nice and all when it's flashy but what do you do a hour later? Nothing! You already seen the pretty stuff. 60 bucks for some visuals and now you're done with the fucking game??? (Order 1886) That shit is gay. When we buy a fucking console and then a fucking game for it.... We want a reason to come back. Options! Replay value! Fun factor! Satisfactory game play!

[@_scooter98_92]

and JJ Abrams with all the lense flare.

[@JZStudiosonline]

Not to mention JJ Abrams's signature camera shake, where he literally just smacks the camera during filming for dramatic effect.

[@jamesosullivan532]

LMFAOO

[@MrDude-sp6et]

EmoPoodle thank god for DOOM 4

[@phoofnscoops6778]

Seeing that old Xbox Original system link party brought a tear to my eye

[@robosing225]

it'll never be that way again. for any game now. everything's online. everyone has families and jobs, obligations. it was special.

[@phoofnscoops6778]

There's still a chance, maybe not consoles, but PC's

[@mrchoochoohead9033]

nothing will ever be like the summer after my first year of university. constant halo coop missions during the day and lan matches in the evenings before going out and getting hammered.

[@phoofnscoops6778]

That sounds like a dream dude

[@mrchoochoohead9033]

occasionally my brother and i relive it but goddamn i get nostalgic for 2002

[@SpacerZVEVO]

*Loot box demonstration plays* Producer: "I love it!" Pain.

[@Sqdlow]

The joy in designing slot machines aimed at kids to prey on addictive vulnerabilities and unregulated spending is sickening

[@Wilburgur]

4:03 This should be every studios motto

[@masonr783]

Dodmt expect to see you here. Love your vids

[@ProVision3187]

Upload more!! @wilburger

[@TheBlackSpartan103]

I didn't expect to see you here...

[@LazyererSoda]

Glad to know you appreciate good gameplay and story first before visuals. Stay Safe.

[@John-X]

My Face When Bungie Shows Up: 😀 My Face When 343ind Shows Up: ☹

[@ngmajora6986]

That Skin Montage hurt my feelings holy fuck

[@rmackichan9694]

NGMajora NGMajora Piiiizzzaaaaaa

[@notsojharedtroll23]

NGMajora NGMajora it was cringe af boiiiiiiii

[@HowBoutUHandleDeezNutz]

Does anyone know of a hotline I can call after seeing that clip, cause I don't want to live on this planet anymore...

[@Hit_by_a_Parked_Car]

Anyone else rewatching after crow went back at it a second time?

[@DmanRockUrWORLD]

This feedback video from 6 years ago had NO impact on 343 incompetence whatsoever! Very sad.. Halo will most likely never make a comeback to the glory days pre-343

[@NeightrixPrime]

Bungie: how can we best serve the player? 343: how can we manipulate the player to serve us?

[@chungusmogus8832]

I am eternally grateful that I had the opportunity to play Halo during the golden age. Long live the Halo Trilogy.

[@EpicHysteria]

And Reach

[@maul5578]

EpicHysteria that was the golden age

[@jozinek876]

Yeh, same. The only Halo games I haven't played are Halo 2 and 5 (I also never properly played through ODST), but still, they were a big part of my childhood and I used to play deathmatch in CE a lot with my brother.

[@jozinek876]

@@EpicHysteria Reach was probably my favourite.

[@spethmanjones2997]

Jozinek please stop whatever you’r doing and go play Halo 2 RIGHT NOW

[@DAABattery]

The original Halo trilogy is what got me into gaming, and also specifically into multiplayer. I fucking miss those days :(

[@LonShevu]

Harambo miss when my brother and friends played it... simpler days. So much fun and time

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

and odst :)

[@bobbyadams8889]

Booty Watcher same

[@odstlover]

NonsensicalVids "and odst" hell yeah dude I love that game