Ex-Ubisoft Employee Exposes The Horrors Of The Company

[@MrProtopopescovici]

worked at EA for a little while , we were all having a paid holiday for christmas ~2 weeks because why not its fucking christmas , we had about 1600 people in the building and then guess what happened ? 300 people got fired at the same time because the CEO for EA in our country (im not saying what country for obvious reasons) was like "nah we don't have enough money to pay an entire holiday these many people , fuck em" and just like that boom the dream i had in childhood to work at a company that makes games was over. a wake up call from reality. I can say that all the stuff the guy from ubisoft said are true and were occuring at EA also , we finished fifa 2016 on time (with bugs at usual because of we were having the same issues as the ubisoft guy too little time , no extra time even if you begged so we would finish the game bugged knowing that we would patch it in time ) didn't even celebrate properly and 2 days later we started getting e-mails regarding fifa 2017 and details like that everybody was complaing there too about extra hours. that's why now when im playing a game now i look at it differently "i wonder how many people lost their job while they developed this one" hope people see this comment.

[@genericereal]

+Tobias LoL "i wonder how many people lost their job while they developed this one" That thought hit me hard. I never thought about that, and now I can't *stop* thinking about it. Best wishes to you, my friend.

[@bingbong193]

Tobias LoL damn all these people turning me away from learning coding.... fk if i will finish that school and I will get a job as a programmer. or a pc mechanic. they teach both.

[@matamatosa8898]

i think ill never play games again after this comment

[@Spencer-mb6qi]

Tobias LoL damn never shoulda clicked on this video because I fucking hate video games now

[@sudheeshmohan4357]

Before watching this video and reading comments I was thinking of switching my career from Android Developer to Game designer by doing game designer diploma coz my dream was to work in Ubisoft. Hmmm now I have to think again before trying to switch to game industry...

[@ReviewTechUSA]

This may be coming from a troll with nothing better to do, but I have a feeling this truly was a former Ubisoft dev telling everyone how bad it as working for the company. If this is true Ubisoft should be ashamed of themselves.

[@manny3918]

Fuck you rich

[@faroutdude360]

Wasn't there a scandal with the guys that developed LA Noire too, reminds me of that

[@MoneyFolder]

Activision is looking really good now...

[@holisticpsychologybyobrien]

"Yu-bee-soft."

[@faroutdude360]

Vernon Schillinger I have always pronounced it 'You Be Soft' but is it meant to be 'Oo Be Soft' I dunno???

[@samuraikatana1]

Isn't being forced to work for no pay like... illegal?

[@martyngray-horwood2522]

it's not like illegal it is illegal, we would call it slavery today.

[@Fubnin]

samuraikatana1 Not if it's "optional" but then you're made "redundant" if you don't work unpaid overtime

[@NinjaHamsters101]

There's loopholes in laws.

[@supahfly_uk]

I got worse, my IT contract was "not renewed" so they didn't have to pay out redundancy.

[@MrLTiger]

not unless you can prove it in writing.

[@CelestialDraconis]

ive been pronouncing "Ubisoft" like "You-bisoft" for like so long.

[@HamzaMehmood7011553]

Hahah me to lol

[@moodyghannam5156]

Me too haha

[@quarkyquasar893]

Lol, That's the only thing I learned from this video. xD

[@moodyghannam5156]

Red Sniper me too mate I learned how to say "fuck Ubisoft" properly now 😂

[@CelestialDraconis]

MoodY GhannaM Haha yes. Damn right.

[@smashbrolink]

Food for thought: Masahiro Sakurai put himself through a similar hell, WILLINGLY, to get Smash Bros on 3DS and Wii U to us in as complete and timely a manner as possible. No one told him to overwork himself while dealing with RSI in both hands/wrists. No one told him to stay in the office way later than he should, testing and re-testing and retesting again to make sure things were as close to perfect as he could make them before we got our hands on it to further expose whatever flaws the roster may have. No, this man did a TON of REALLY INSANE SHIT of his own accord, to make sure we get a new entry in a series that's worth talking about for years to come. Think about that for a while. That's the difference between a company that forces, and a company that INSPIRES. Sakurai was INSPIRED to make that game his passion. No one forced him, and his passion showed through and has resulted in an incredible new entry. THAT, is how AAA games should be done.

[@SolarArmadillo]

He's also a perfectionist, while probably under a lot of pressure from nintendo to finish in time for the holidays.

[@sh3lbyhd818]

Sora is one of the best 2nd party developers for Nintendo. Right up there with HAL. They don't go through all this shit for only money, but to make the consumer happy.

[@thunderflare59]

And he probably got promoted.

[@sh3lbyhd818]

He didn't get promoted, he owns the company.

[@NESfighter]

the 3ds version was a waste

[@sinephase]

I pirated Minecraft to see how it was back around 2008 and Notch didn't care. I liked it and wanted to support him and get updates, so I purchased it. If devs made games that weren't shit, they wouldn't get pirated so much. Same with price gouging.

[@theblue2228]

indeed, i did the same

[@temmoerrana9324]

+sinephase Minecraft's first ever playable version rolled out in May 9th, 2009 so what u on about mate?

[@sinephase]

iDoffy Breeze k then I'm off by a year, big deal? XD

[@TheAnhedonicOne]

I played the forest for free, and enjoyed the hell out of it. I bought it to support its development, as you should.

[@steve24822]

complete bollocks.

[@ps4legend231]

I am personally done supporting Ubisoft, EA, Activision because of the lack of interest and respect for the customers, and all they care about is lining their, and their shareholder's pockets, while the consumer gets bent over and takes it in the ass by these customers. PC gamers are always getting shitty ass ports, and all these patches and promises of fixes are absolutely retarded. I bought the game to have a good experience, instead gotta look into these forums, or search online how to fix these retarded issues that shipped with the game. I'm done with these mainstream triple A games and companies that publish and make the games. I'm sticking to smaller indie games for a while. I will still support Bathesda, Rockstar, and 343 for now. However, Ubisoft, EA, and Activision have lost me as a dedicated customer.

[@METALLIFY16]

Same here man. Im a diehard Assassins creed fan and far cry fan and the way they have been treating us and their workers are wrong.

[@donaldlloyd3318]

James Sunderland You complained about Ubisoft shipping bugged games yet Bethesda does the same thing.

[@ps4legend231]

Davis Warden The main game I play from Bathesda is Wolfenstein and the upcoming Doom, if there's other games out there from Bathesda, well I don't play them. I know Wolfenstein was and still is one of my favorite games and didn't have any issues playing it.

[@donaldlloyd3318]

James Sunderland Those are Bethesda published games not developed...

[@ps4legend231]

Davis Warden I never said developed

[@Yuliviee]

what does he mean anything over 37hours is unpaid? under minimum wage??? i call bullshit on that. its totally illegal. any SANE person would leave like a fucking shot and go work at mc donnalds.

[@TheBLC94]

unpaid overtime is standard in the games industry, we have our contracted hours which are 9-5, anything else you're doing for free, where I worked at they would buy you take out if you agreed to stayed back for 3 hours

[@Yuliviee]

welp thats illigal. in canada at least.

[@TheBLC94]

Yeah, I live in the UK, seems pretty common here to do free overtime (with regards to games industry that is)

[@Yuliviee]

TheBLC94 fuuuuuuuuck man. i fucking hate these greedy fuckers who scare you into working for free. im a cook at a restaurant and one week i had to work 70h. owner said she wouldnt pay me overtime. i just looked at her and said: you know thats illigal. bitch payed my overtime cash.

[@TheBLC94]

You're not the only one. The last place I worked at wasn't so bad, they would ask for one evening a week of overtime nearer deadlines which is more acceptable. Haha, nice one.

[@divineminergames]

"90% of PC gamers are pirates" I'm sorry, I don't like giving my money to a shitty company like ubisoft who doesn't take the time to port it, GTA IV was the most pirated game for so long and Rockstar knew that, but because they understand they have a fan base, or people who play on it, they take the time to create a port for PC, that includes some things that Console doesn't get as well, it's sad to say that GTA V PC maxed out will run better than ACU or FC4 on any settings.

[@Carks32]

>99% of PC gamers are pirates Ubisoft/EA told you this, right?

[@XProjectHunterX]

when i have enough money to join the pc master race i will never buy a ubisoft game for this exact reason. they hate pc gamers.

[@JunohProductions]

I own Black Flag legally but I still use the cracked version because it's better. I get better performance with it and I don't have to run that shitty uPlay.

[@JunohProductions]

NuclearBunny970 There's also China.

[@madfinntech]

Junoh Productions This. I tested ACU with pirated copy to see how it performs, I have no intend to play it though, because I couldn't care a less for that game, I just wanted to see the performance. I have i7-4770k and GTX 980 and I'll get like 45-60 fps on gameplay and like 35-45 fps on cut scenes at ultra high settings at 1080p, so I'm wondering what's the fuss about bad performance, sure it could be better, but the fact is that it performs better, because it's cracked to be offline. This is not first game where I have noticed this, some games are just better when you crack it even though you own it. Sometimes cracks cause games to crash and they of course create security holes.

[@makeitmodded]

So... my brother is a wizard with code. He learned how to code in java on an advanced calculator, in the first years of high school. Oh and yes a calculator. He got a job as a coder for developing some apps from his teacher in his second year at four year college. He wanted to be a video game designer, but he did some research and learned how little you get paid, for how much you need to know, master, and do in a job. I also wanted to be a modeler for video game making, but my brother told me to never work in the industry. Its hard, unrelenting work, with extremely little pay for the amount you need to do, and it takes the love away from playing games in general. Now not all companies are like this, but it kills your love for what we as gamers like to do in our spare time.

[@gadkinson]

Unless you work at valve.

[@thekingixe2323]

+gadkinson "After seven years of development..." Gabe doesn't give a shit about release dates.

[@ThisIsTaps]

This is so wrong

[@Soniti1324]

Where the fuck do you only need $700 / month?

[@MrRonDeL83]

You can`t live normaly with $700 a month in europe!(= 624euro) MAYBE with a appartment with 1 room, but even that is about 300,400euros a month in a shitty area (with gas and electricity 450,500) , you can`t drive a car and do some fun activities. Good luck with your 124euro a month for eating like a king..

[@familialdysautosis2717]

Ooobisoft.

[@Norwheon]

Hahhah I was looking for this comment.

[@rhysaustinVO]

Youbisoft

[@ricusduplooy968]

Boobisoft

[@carsone4607]

U*****t

[@samhowell7928]

Football Maniac thank god you remembered to censor it

[@NareshUgaonkar]

game developers life is no joke endless nights writing a ton of code. and waking up and realising there are a lot of bugs then again spending a few more nights finding the bugs and fixing them. and at the end of the month get a crappy salary with a lecture from your boss. who btw doesn't understand shit about the kind of hard work you do.

[@mg-by7uu]

*software developers life. Just go freelance its the only way

[@NinjaHamsters101]

It is a chaotic work environment and a living nightmare for anyone really. The video game industry is really, really corrupt and it's not funny. Not one bit of it.

[@NareshUgaonkar]

NinjaHamsters101 well i am lucky that i didn't actually had to work for a big company.

[@NareshUgaonkar]

Michael Fish freelance isn't too good either. at least my experience wasn't so good.

[@mg-by7uu]

Naresh Ugaonkar Yes I agree. Endlessly worrying about whether or not you will have enough work to pay your bills and avoid being homeless is the worst. This is my day to day life right now. Where I live there isn't much web development work. I've searched daily since january for a full time job but no luck. Maybe I should have finished my degree

[@ethanklahn9799]

I would love to see more devs that worked for companies like Ubisoft come together and make a great game without the stress of major companies. They will not benefit via consoles, however Steam is great with indie games and the community will play it if its good. I would much rather have a game take 3 years to come out and be polished, fun, and enjoyable than a game that devs were forced to make in a year without inspiration or fun themselves. If you read this entire comment i'd like to hear what you think :)

[@paulandreasallik]

penus

[@aladinthemonkey]

+Paul Andreas Allik *penis

[@CMobCMobley]

My friend...I...agree...with...every...word...you said. :-) #keeppreachingthetruth

[@randomusername3445]

I agree. the indie scene is the only hope for the future of gaming now. indie developers that are successful will hopefully in the future grow to make their own companies with the spirit of gaming in mind instead of the bottom dollar. that's the only way in my opinion future artists in the game industry will flourish.

[@moriel8925]

+ethan Klahn Dude i think rockstar knows how to treat them they take thier time and wont stress the f**k out of you and you will have 3-4 years to get a new polished game out

[@sK_SK8s]

Are ubisoft not millionaires yet they cant decently pay their workers? greedy much?

[@Deadlyaztec27]

The thing, if they payed their employees appropriately they would take a pretty big hit of a few million. The way their contracts work is that they give a contract to development studio that states when the game is released, how many people you have to work with, and how many hours are expected. On paper everything sounds fair. In practice, everyone has a lot less time to do things in than their should be. At the pace everyone realistically works at overtime is necessary to finish the project. Though. the contract with the company have already been made, so overtime isn't covered. It's all very legal, but it's not ethical. And it's really the fault of the studios. I know no one wants to hear it, but studios underbid each other for gaming contracts all the time. And corporations will always go with the cheaper, if unrealistic, option.

[@nagyzoli]

A loss of a few milion bucks for something like Ubisoft is on border of negligeble. Like.. 10% of theire profit. And what a marketing power they would get, to "show off" to the programming community that they CAN afford to respect the 8h/day 5day a week laws AND still make games

[@TheNextRenegadeGaming]

at least cd project red is taking their time

[@Whittaz85]

And it shows, one of the best developers in the world at the moment. Hope the conditions are good, seems to be that way. Happy workers make better games who would have guessed.

[@Skansener]

I think it's because they really do it with passion, unlike other companies

[@bmach9342]

+Whittaz85 Same with Bethesda

[@wyw201]

They don't let some airheads in Montreal give them unrealistic deadlines and budgets to follow, then proceed to sack everyone once the buggy rushed product fails in the market

[@yarpenzirgin81]

CD Project is surely great developer but I wouldnt overestimate working conditions there. Being programmer and knowing guys that worked for the gaming industry, and also applied to CD project I can say that they do not pay as much as other IT industries. Dont know about work ethic in CD project as my friends didnt proceed with job aplication.

[@Gunbudder]

tons of engineers refuse to work in the shit game industry. if i tried to work unpaid overtime, i would actually get fired.

[@AchHadda]

that's why only who loves their career works there ;)

[@pascalschackmann3936]

sounds like idiots.

[@slurmitshighlyaddictive5641]

more like dumbasses who chose to "make video games :D" instead of getting into a more useful part of the IT field

[@AchHadda]

Slurm its highly addictive well call them what ever you want after all games industry makes more the movies one ;)

[@slurmitshighlyaddictive5641]

Ach Hadda yea but thats not really a good thing is it? once these larger corporations started realizing how much money they can make in the video game industry they started flocking over, bringing their shady business practices with them, like outsourcing and false advertising. Thats kind of the whole point of this video, I doubt Ubisoft devs are the only ones being pushed to their limits to meet fall deadlines, ever wonder why call of duty games come out exclusively in the fall? its to make the most money.

[@JwayT]

If so many PC gamers were pirates then PC game sales wouldn't have outsold all console game sales combined. Yes some PC gamers that pirate are just outright theifs with no justification for their actions but there wouldn't be long running PC only franchises like the Sims and Total War if people didn't buy these games.

[@AiRsTriKeITA]

Actually some of us "pirates" do have a justification, or at least I think I do have one. I'm 16 I obviously don't have a job and I really don't feel like begging my parents to buy me videogames when we are already struggling with car insurances, rent, medicines for my father etc. I only bought a few games when they were on sale to play them online but most of my games are all pirated, I wouldn't have been able to buy them anyway so I might as well download them illegally, when I'll have a job of my own I'll start paying for them unless it's from ubisoft or other shitty game companies that make very bad ports for pc. Also I'm pretty sure most console gamers buy used games and that's just as bad as piracy since the devs don't earn anything from them.

[@JwayT]

Sentry Ward You're right, i've edited my comment to say what i meant to say in the first place: that 'some' pirates are outright thiefs, i can understand those who wouldn't buy it anyway or who want to try before they buy. I do understand you're situation, i'm not ignorant to that at all. With that said i do not agree with you on used games however, did you buy your house straight from the builder? is your car bought brand new? is everything you own first hand? I doubt it and that is complete hypocrisy. Piracy is one copy of the game either genuine or not being multiplied and downloaded potentially thousands of times! A used game is ONE genuine game that was once new being passed through multiple owners Used games and piracy are not the same thing.

[@CrazyBoyStudios]

Sentry Ward I have a job and I only "pirate" a game to demo the game if i'm not sure I'll like it. Money is tight and I don't want to waste it, so in the rare circumstance where a game interests me but I'm overly skeptical, I might pirate it, try it for an hour or two, and if I like it i'll buy it. If I don't like it then I'll remove all the data from my computer. I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to actually try a game for a little bit and see if it will actually be worth my money.

[@AiRsTriKeITA]

TheOldOne Hey moron. For the game to be "Pirated" Someone had to had bought it initially as a new game. Used games are not that different from pirated copies.

[@ayosj99]

Sentry Ward fuck you

[@AAhmou]

The money that the game devs should get is usually spent on tv adds.

[@AAhmou]

ads*

[@astalavisitor]

"should get" according to whom ? im a dev btw

[@martyngray-horwood2522]

and massive salaries for the upper level executives that are actually a hinderance to the process.

[@az21bob666]

cdpr form W3 said they had to spend more for add thens the game cost,

[@Gamberbro237]

Which is weird since gamers seem to be really active consumers, I don't know about you but I usually try to follow games I want to buy pretty closely.

[@lordnardo6880]

THIS IS WHY VALVE IS THE BEST GAMING COMPANY FOR DEVELOPERS AND CONSUMERS. If you see valves employee handbook THERE ARE NO MANAGERS the employees can choose what they wanna work on and even release products, this keeps the developers stress-free and creative. There was an entire video about their snackbar too Gabe Newell stated it was 24/7 access to a crazy amount of junk food. This is why Valve makes awesome games.

[@lordnardo6880]

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[@twlight76]

Labor laws need to be amended. We cannot allow any workers to labor without pay, nor work 10-14 hours per day.

[@Clandsom]

Karmic Reballance so if people want to work extra you are going to make it illegal?

[@twlight76]

Really? Being paid for the work you do is socialist now, how? Overtime should be elective by the worker, not mandatory. And you should be paid for your labor, unless you like indentured servitude or slavery.

[@cyberpsybin]

"want to work extra"

[@TheKstrider]

:( I love cats

[@eliotness107]

Ubisoft, Activision, EA and now Blizzard too. I dont know how the work conditions are on all of these companies but they sure as hell produce bad games now lately, may it be because they are pushing their employees around like trash like we hear in this video i understand they lose interest and ofc the result will be dog shit. Something needs to be done to re-vitalize the gaming industry.

[@thatguyrolledinbacon3367]

Blizzard because overwatch or WoW? cause overwatch is a good game imo, only netcode could use some work

[@eliotness107]

That Guy Rolled In Bacon cus WoW, i do agree that the devs have been very passionate about overwatch, even tho its probably nothing for me i still think it looks good for the genre.

[@thatguyrolledinbacon3367]

Daniel Asgaard ah oke thx for clearing that up

[@eddielikesmusic8852]

I don't like that genre, but I agree, it looks great for the genre, and could easily replace TF2.

[@swinny_]

It is being revitalised by the indie game movement. Access to top engines and asset development software, countless hours and pages of available learning resources, talented and open dev communities and the rise of online distribution. I used to work in the VFX industry and walked away from it for the exact same reasons outlined by this ex-Ubi dev, I would never take another job in a meat grinder like that. happily developing my game from my home everyday :D couldn't be happier.

[@nickhackett5643]

Is it pronounced ubisoft or ubisoft

[@dmike3507]

it's UBISOFT you dumbshit

[@nickhackett5643]

sorry

[@vhsunknown827]

+dmike3507 You can't pronounce shit over the internet you "Dumbshit".

[@vhsunknown827]

+Nick Hackett You can't pronounce shit over the internet. God fucking Christ!!!!!

[@pddubsledubs6417]

+Amado Moreno Watch your head, it's getting closer every time!

[@lfreemo]

No wonder so many AAA games have turned to shit while indie games have excelled

[@RedX165]

***** But the Xbox One isn't any better.

[@lominero5]

***** I think that is the usual mentality on console and I understand why. On PC indie games are very welcome though.

[@RedX165]

koenigsegg One 1 People buy consoles expecting the latest new triple a game. My PC could easily run all indie games.

[@WolfenMcGunz]

Really? Man I'm more and more loving indie titles now! So much more original than the typical saturated market of: "Cool guy has a cool weapon in 3rd person mode, some free roam and you can upgrade your guy every so often" I am so turned off by games like this that come out all the freaking time! Nintendo still makes some interesting games.

[@DarkOnOneSide]

***** At the same time, people like these experiences that Indie titles generally cannot provide. You may get games more original than Assassins Creed, but then ask to apply the same: engine, open world, customisation options, voice actors etc. and there is no fucking way an Indie developer is doing that without proper funds.

[@AkariJP]

I was actually getting really into the gameplay XD

[@sinephase]

+CreepyFireX IKR? It was making me want to play it :P

[@blackcat4562]

Same here.

[@JoeSmoPedro]

+CreepyFireX I actually got stuck on the dungeon he was playing here.

[@PanthersForce]

Me too lol

[@Amalga_Heart]

Okay, wow. That's... pretty bad. I cant even imagine doing that. I've had a chance to participate in indie development a few times now (as a contractor to a specific indie dev team), and every experience with that has been very positive. Everyone's friendly, and they're not obsessed with deadlines: They just want the results of the work to be GOOD. That's all that matters. I work on my stuff when I bloody well feel like it, not on some hyper-specific daily schedule (again, nobody cares HOW I get the results: just that I get them). If on a particular day I just dont feel like I can do it? I dont freaking do it. And then when I AM ready, I can do my absolute best instead of droning on like some sort of zombie bee. I can put out a big blob of good stuff in one go when the inspiration is really there. And it's been just positive for everyone involved. I end up being able to do work on games that, later on, I genuinely want to keep playing (and further updating), as opposed to avoiding (which I kinda suspect alot of AAA devs do). Really, there's SO many things wrong with the AAA side of the industry. At this point, I'm completely disillusioned with it. It's very rare that I buy a AAA game anymore, because with most of them I couldnt be less interested. THere's exceptions of course, but... yeah, that side of things has fallen into ALOT of trends that I dont like. And then you get horror stories like these, over and over again... and to think, there was a time when I actually wanted to work as a developer on "major" games. **shudder** I'm really, REALLY glad I didnt go down that awful route. For shame on these big companies for doing what they do. At this point, I'd LOVE to witness a huge market crash on the AAA side. They have it coming, and the industry really could use a shakedown right now.

[@NinjaHamsters101]

I love when comments like yours comes up with a good story to share from experience. Why aren't comments like yours not receiving much attention? This is honestly a great comment to read through.

[@Amalga_Heart]

NinjaHamsters101 I can answer that: because it's a long comment, and this is the Internet... you know how people are, anything more than a couple of sentences is a mighty intellectual strain. Which is kinda depressing in a way, really.

[@NinjaHamsters101]

Misery hahaha Fair enough. :)

[@taqu]

I'm relieved to hear you had a good experience! I'm a software developer and I used to want to work on games, but after all I've seen and heard about the industry, I've almost given up on the idea.The only exception I've thought about is indie development. I've been making little games in my freetime, and maybe someday I can put that to use and develop my dream game, with no hassle and pressure. My job right now is very stable, the pay is good, no long days. I'm happy.

[@burger-jd8cx]

What you could do is put aside a little free time to make a medium-small indie game, and sell it for some extra profit. Maybe if you make a good one you will get an offer to join a company. (not ubisoft or EA, lol)

[@HaruhiSuzu10]

Hey Ubisoft, forget about Rayman, just for forget about the damn franchise so you don't ruin it.

[@wafflecone6968]

The original Rayman was the first game I've ever played and it holds a special place in my heart so I hope that ubisoft doesn't screw it up.

[@ZlatkoTheGod]

Actually screw Rayman, if they outsource it to Ubiart it'll be a sweet game, what I *really* don't want them to make now is a Beyond Good & Evil 2.

[@WeeabooASMR]

Yet another log in the ever growing fire of another game industry crash.

[@AltaryaDeFlammes1996]

***** Nintendo is tryng a much different strategy with this sort of thing, they're realy betting on the indie developers, i mean go and wtahc the lastest Direct where they talk about how much they consider indie devs as part of a "family" of sorts, on the 3ds&wii u e-shop new indie games pop-up faster than steam green-light, If another crash happens here are the 4 ways of gaming that won't be affect at all(i believe so atleast), 1 - the Wii U, 2 - the 3DS/N3DS, 3 - the Nvidia Shield family(expeacialy the tablet), 4 - PC & Steam Nintendo & Valve are supporting indie devs like no one else, the Shield family because it realy *is* a sneak peek at the future of gaming and PC gaming because well i don't have to explain it...

[@AltaryaDeFlammes1996]

***** No console fanboys sounds like an utopic reality, Reason why i don't think the wii u won't be hit as hard, if affected, is because, first of all, it has no 3rd party support, and second of all, it's the second biggest indie platform, barely behind Steam and the 3DS e-shop

[@tammysilverwolf1085]

I dunno if it'd crash the way we're all familiar with-- after all, there are a slough of indie studios out there who're much more flexible than other companies of the Atari era, and with crowd funding platforms like patreon (not necessarily kickstarter), studios with proven quality can get fans to fund the games they want to produce. That said, I'm all for another crash to shed the deadwood. . . Yes, it'd be tumultuous and yes, people will loose their jobs and it's going to be horrible, but it'd force producers and consumers to think differently about the medium and what can be done with it.

[@Exquisite_Blue]

***** Yep....already switching to PC, not all console gamers are morons. Hopefully it kills off bad publishers like Activision, EA, and ubisoft.

[@AltaryaDeFlammes1996]

Michael Bay Pc and Mobile are quite litteraly the future of gaming, no wonder why NVIDIA themselfs are betting in this idea

[@zumokuninjoe7820]

I got distracted by the game! before he even started talking about the ubisoft employee!

[@TheAmaya759]

Lol

[@theMyouknow]

ahh Legend of link...good shit *Not Zelda* dont get it why its called Legend of Zelda, whats the legend? Being kidnapped by ganon? :D

[@MrRobot-jb5tl]

@@theMyouknow Zelda's power is the only thing to seal ganon. smh

[@Sjono]

Suddenly Kojima's depression during MGS4 development makes sense

[@lominero5]

And he doesn't even work for Ubisoft or EA. If he did it would had been suicide lol

[@killahpapa]

At least he could take his time.

[@ZombieBarioth]

Kojima didn't actually _want_ to make MGS4 if the first place, so that could have been a lot of it. He doesn't want to be known as "the Metal gear guy", being forced to make yet another one probably made that sink in a bit more.

[@videogameprof]

ZombieBarioth yet now there's a 5th one being made.

[@ZombieBarioth]

videogameprof Yea, but we don't know the details surrounding it. Could be they were going to do it with him or without him, and being his creation so he wants to make sure its handled right, or perhaps hes making lemonade out of lemons and is using an existing IP to do something new, could be something in his contract. Who knows.

[@louismelancon79]

the rumors are actually true, i have friends working there (and that used to work there during assassins creed prods). The problem is that there s no union to protect the rights of the workers in our field just yet and there s a lot of students coming fresh out of school willing to work for crums, which creates crazy competition just to get a shot at working in your field. The result? abuse of display of power like we re talking about in this video. But this doesn't only apply to the video games industry, but also to vfx and animation. It is terrible and until people come together to say enough is enough we need a union.... it will keep happening. (source : 16 years experience in the game/vfx industry)

[@RealBadGaming52]

is the labor laws in america non existent

[@crossfaded6438]

+MrVercettti it is, but for some reason it doesnt apply to the vfx industry... the companies dont want to implement it cause they d lose too much money and the artists are scared to complain fearing they ll lose their job and be banned and tagged as a "trouble maker"....it sucks i know and its quite ridiculous. the government is aware and should step in.... yet.... so far in my 16 years experience in the field nothings changed.

[@rustyshackleford17]

Fields that are heavily unionized are usually pretty good, but become a stagnant cesspool. Fields like these where there are no unions and is highly competitive, workers get taken to the cleaners. With regards to what is happening is a gray area. They're most likely contract which means there is a set pay for them and they have to fulfill their obligations. However, their contract demands too much. Unfortunately, their field will never successfully unionize because it is ultra-competitive and full of people willing to work for nothing.

[@derekmcginnis7934]

Cross bow on Southpark

[@BOFDJake]

This makes me think a lot about the release of Battlefield 4. DICE probably worked their asses off to make a great game and were simply rushed. Then everyone went off complaining even when they were clearly trying to fix the problem. I just hate seeing people bashing on the devs. when it's mainly the Publisher that makes that shit happen.

[@3bertface01]

Yeah true, battlefield 4is fine now runs like butter

[@videogameostuploader6315]

Not really. The phrase Dice worked their asses off is pretty hilarious, considering they still haven't fixed the massive issues in BF3 alone, let alone basic shit like the chat system in 4, and they've had a year.

[@BOFDJake]

I personally had no problems in BF3 (PC, PS3) and or the chat in in BF4.... so...

[@videogameostuploader6315]

SkinnyWeirdGuy Literally every game I've played in BF4 has had huge issues with the chat lagging, with tons of other people complaining about it when it happens. They've been re-using the engine since Bad Company 1 and it's the only game I've ever played with that issue, with over a year to fix that issue alone. They've had since 2008 to fix the engine. There is no excuse.

[@BOFDJake]

They're pretty much started from scratch with BF3. They kept the name but the engine was basically new. What are you playing on anyways?

[@anthonysgambati3683]

It's also very hard to get work in this industry. In some cases it can be a dream job, but in many cases also it can be slave labor, again always with the stupid hierarchy where the guys on top talk bs politics and don't contribute at all who make all the money. Indie is def the preferred method for a growing number, both consumer and developer. The problem there is funding and manpower. It can be hard to make a game with no money and only 1-3 people passionate enough to put that kind of work into something. I have a BS in game art and design, never managed to land a job. Would still embrace the opportunity, but these horror stories seem prevalent especially for entry level employees. It is sad because it is supposed to be one of those cool jobs where everyone is passionate and enjoys what they do. This corporate world has to go already!

[@hnjahnjah]

+Anthony Sgambati Quite the sad world we live in indeed. Maybe try a kickstarter project with some other people who are passionate about the same genre as yourself and go from there? That's how Super Meat Boy and many other indie games started,and look where it got those guys...

[@anthonysgambati3683]

Most openings for developers are actually contracts. I think for the most part they get an hourly wage, or set amount for the work required. That can be a way, and some people do that. Ideally, I would like to get in with a good company and stay. Build a team, a family, make games, have fun. I think that's more possible on the indie side. Big developers seem just as bad at McDonalds and Walmart. It's okay if your at the top, but shit roles downhill and the low level guys are smothered in it :(

[@randomrandom450]

+Anthony Sgambati and its why it is still like that. Someone fresh, full of hopes and dreams, finally found a job in the gaming industry, accepts to take it up the ass because he is "living his dream". 3-5 years later, he has a family, he wants to have a life, quit and lose hope in the gaming industry. Then someone other kid with hopes and dreams take his place...

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

+Anthony Sgambati Contracts like that are the major problem. AAA companies have been spoiled by internet prevalence and that's let the accountants have their precious fiscal projections so that BA degree meant for tangible products like cars and computers can be applied to entertainment products in a desperate attempt to make the risk of entertainment products more predictable and therefore appealing to investors. Because companies exist to cater to investors, now. Not customers. CEOs relate better to shareholders, after all. They're equally just in it for the money and have no personal stake in the product itself. Because relying on people who expect you to give them two dollars for every dollar they give you is a totally sustainable system and reasonable source of income, according to most CEOs. Apparently.

[@thestwinner680]

*This corporate world has to go already!* My thoughts exactly!!!

[@Betonoszlop]

Valve is best company, working on HL since....Many years. No rush at all!

[@ajsouza3720]

Lol Valve isn't a game company anymore. They just manage steam and get fat off other people's work.

[@Zoeyinterface]

so ture dont worry it will come on the year 3000 half life 3 part 1

[@AndrewStClair-gp6cg]

I don't think 90% of PC gamers are pirates. However, I do know that 99% of PC gamers don't care about videogames.

[@christopherbell2846]

I'm just going to ignore the fact that your opinion is completely baseless, and ask you how "99% of PC gamers don't care about video games" even makes sense when, technically, you have to play games to be called a PC gamer.

[@AndrewStClair-gp6cg]

Christopher Bell No you don't. You can be labeled something without actually having the traits required to be labeled it, just as you can have the traits necessary to be labeled something, but not be labeled it. For example, Ted Kennedy is now considered to be a great man, regardless of the fact that he got drunk, drove his car into a pond and ended up drowning a young lady who was in the car with him. Not only that, but he left the scene and didn't report it to the police until the next morning, after the police had already discovered the car and the dead woman inside. People still say he was a great man, regardless of all that. So, you can be labeled something, even when you're not that. And I know that 99% of PC gamers don't care about games because I've never seen them talk about their love of videogames, of gameplay, or just general entertainment they get from playing games. What you get from PC gamers is endlessly going on about 1080p and 60 frames per second. That's it.

[@christianmartin4000]

Never have a seen such flawed logic. You sir deserve an award.

[@AndrewStClair-gp6cg]

christian martin Explain the flaw then. Have at it.

[@hellfrost333]

Christopher Bell Seriously, it be hard to get real statistics, but I'd say PC has more dedicated gamers and console has more casual gamers... Dedicated Gamers are the ones who really care, but we've moved into the generation of casual gamers and there is more money to be made with a game that holds your hand. I'm so disappointed in the industry right now, there passions in the money not the game. Exception: Alien Isolation very surprising to see game cater to skill and take the time to get the story right, but every other game this year has been shit... At least from what I've seen

[@FlyBoyKhi]

That pretty much sounds like the work force in general. Not just the game developing industry. These jobs expect you to put your life on hold and slave away. Fuck that shit.

[@desmondbrown5508]

Essentially. Hilarious too as even the questions on these shitty part time jobs ask and expect you to be ready and available at a moments notice. WHAT? It's a fucking part time job. Fuck you.

[@FlyBoyKhi]

Desmond Brown exactly. Fuck these corporations.

[@kyybooty]

***** and the sad thing is they get away with it.

[@SIPEROTH]

Exactly and this Devs get frustrated about their little free time and overwork and deadlines and start hating trible A game developing but the truth is that the problem here isn't about developing an AAA title but about this corporations being greedy and trying to overwork them instead of hiring more employees to do the job. Basically they don't want to pay the extra salaries so they they make the one they have do the work of three people. It's disgusting. If you want to finish the game in your fucking deadline then hire the necessary staff for the job you cheap bastards!

[@superchiefdunga5394]

Unfortunately, this video aged well.

[@thefancyagenda7975]

Hey Rich of ReviewTechUSA. This is one of the better videos you have ever produced. I would put it up there with your 'Beware the PC Gaming Money Trap!' video. We all complain a lot about the state of video games but we forget the ridiculous hours these developers are forced to work.

[@GTONeko]

This actually is a reminder of what happened to the studios that did the game of L.A. Noire that went through a similar situation.

[@Lyoko42o]

GTONeko what happened with them? (Not in the loop..)

[@GTONeko]

Robert Insko The actual development studios called Team Bondi had a very similar situation for having extremely long hours, bad work conditions in certain moments...it was just overall bad where after the news came out, the development studio was disbanded.

[@Error_418]

Wanna hear a joke? Ubisoft being a Triple A company

[@joeparagon]

Really, games don't have to be more complex than something like 'Sonic the Hedgehog' or 'Mega Man'. It does seem kind of ridiculous to spend close to $100,000,000 on developing a stupid video game. Some studios like Rockstar and Activision get lucky with sales, but not every studio can do that kind of volume.

[@FlintG]

I wish nintendo would make a new mega man game for the wii u or 3ds. There hasn't been a new one in so long.

[@Easelgames]

To be fair to Rockstar, the amount of times in 5 years that Rockstar releases a video game, is probably far less than most. They spen 100Mill on one game, while someone like Ubisoft spends 8Mill on several dozen or so. That's 150Mill.. I'd rather games be more concentrated like GtaV.

[@Cynthric]

ShadowReaper Considering they just announced the Megaman Amiibo and seeing how the Amiibos add content to games from their franchise and to other games, we might be getting some sort of surprise in the form of a future Nintendo Megaman game. Really wish they'd make Megaman Legends 3 for Wii-U since they put Volnutt in Megaman's Final Smash.

[@AmmarGreepaly]

Rockstar dont just release games for the fuck of it like Ubisoft, EA and Activison. Every game they release is a masterpiece and they release games every 2 or 3 years.

[@Morgan-jy7qo]

Cynthric Legends 3 was going to be a 3ds title but it was canceled

[@the_last_chancer]

Have you heard of the mistreatment in EA as well? These big companies think they can treat people like crap but fail to understand they make the games that give them all the money.

[@username55ify]

They treat the employees like tools. When was the last time you complimented your hammer?

[@TheClhWarrior]

I believe he has since he specifically mentioned them in the video...

[@TheGuyWhoGamesAlot1]

Trevor twoclever I actually thank my wrench and pump when fixing my bike.... I'm not weird.

[@criticalthinking9079]

Trevor twoclever Yes because comparing an inanimate object to a human being is very logical.

[@username55ify]

Critical Thinking THAT IS THEIR MINDSET!

[@Vifvd]

90% of PC games are poorly ported, buggy and a complete fucking piss take when it comes to effort. I am not talking about the devs themselves either its the big corporate twats who decide to sideline an entire section of the industry and have the cheek to demand full price for an unfinished game. I don't pirate games myself but I do condone the actions of some pirates frankly.

[@brettb1217]

"Oobisoft"

[@Gamez4eveR]

Atomic Sauce. Yewbisoft? Or just "Uh"bisoft? I'm just fucking with ya it says yoobeesoft in wikipedia.

[@SmithAndWessonM29]

+Atomic Sauce. haha RTU doesnt know how to say ubisoft

[@ducis3446]

Yeah, it's 'ooobisoft'. Ubi means "where" in Latin and it's pronounced "ooobi", so he pronounced it correctly

[@NexxTGaming]

+What the fuck are you doing reading my username? you be soft

[@biokuta7896]

is that gameplay from the new zelda game? cool dude

[@foufoufun]

It's open world and shit man!

[@lolioliol360]

Yeah man, graphics havent improved much though.

[@zrow9903]

I used to buy all of my PC games, but then they started behaving shittier and i decided it was no longer worth it to pay for it. (Like the 40 euro's i spent on a non-working non-refundable GTA4 back in the day, but when i downloaded the game illegally it worked perfectly.)

[@zrow9903]

Well, if you own a high end gaming setup, a pc is better than a console, but for lower price ranges, i'd say consoles are better. But sniping in FPS games is way more accurate with a mouse. It makes it easier to hit moving targets.

[@jay7131]

evilphoenix 007 Well it's not the pc's fault, it's the developers fault.

[@builderwack4459]

Zrow It's not the PC's fault it cannot launch, it was the port's fault for being so faulty. And yes, I do know the error you're talking about, rockstar abandons almost all of their old PC ports, and the community has to fix it themselves.

[@happydappyman]

I've been calling for a shift for the past year now. You should have seen the argument I had with a guy a few weeks back. he's trying to tell me they need to raise prices on video games and sell us $40 DLC or else the industry will crash and it will be all gamers fault somehow. hahaha I told him the AAA industry needs to crash and burn if that's the case. Actually It needs to burn anyway, have you seen this stream of diarrhea for AAA we've been getting lately? I actually think crowd funding might be a cool experiment as well (still waiting on some big projects like star citizen), which sounds like it could come with problems, but think about it. A game won't be driven by how to get max profit for a publisher, it would be driven by the fact that if the game is shit, they won't ever be able to raise money again. It would be an industry driven almost solely by the devs reputation. If anyone gets big with crowd funding it'll be because they didn't rip off fans which would be literally the opposite of how its currently done.

[@DavidJohanssonSN]

SUPERHOT is run on crowd funding too. We've seen how great that's come out to be so far.

[@kevinlopes110]

Don't worry at least some companies try like naughty dog they are there own company and dev also cdprojectred they are a small team but did a good job until update 1 on the witcher 3 made the game get a few bugs but they fixed

[@xeno126]

+kevin lopes Naughty Dog! I miss Crash Bandicoot :(

[@ncshuriken]

+Xeno Yea, Uncharted is just getting BEYOND boring. I really enjoyed 1 & especially 2, but by the time I got to #3 I just found myself falling asleep. Its as if they haven't really changed anything about the series since the 1st or 2nd game. Thats fair enough in a sense, because the formula obviously sells, but its bad in that it doesn't encourage Naughty Dog to actually do much expansion on the formula which has now become 100% predictable and repetitive. Its just endless "rinse & repeat" just like Assassins Creed & COD. The PS1 days with games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider, Wipeout 2097 etc were the true golden years of the games world IMO. So much more innovation & creativity, more room for it too, especially the former.

[@thestwinner680]

+happydappyman Look at the new Friday 13th game coming out soon enough... it wasn't even supposed to *be* a Friday 13th game originally, just a wannabe fan-made (solid and authentically looking) summer-camp-slasher game, but seeing its potential, the love and passion of the independent developers for the franchise, it got so popular that even the original creators picked up/found interest in it AND GAVE THEM THE LICENSE, ENTITLEMENT *FOR FREE*! That's awesome of them IMO, not to mention original creator, producer, composer (music) and even Kane Hodder - the actor and stunt coordinator for the O.G. Jason HIMSELF got involved in the making of the game! It raised over $800,000 on Kickstarter alone, and another $3,000 on another account, so the fanbase is really standing strong behind the idea as well. I'm really rooting for this project to come out great, *solid* and set the example or *standard* for similar future projects to come - it will prove that it IS possible to make thi shappen WITHOUT the *corporate BULLSHIT & BULLFUCK.*

[@pajokamikaze]

Indie devs, we love you

[@pieceofshitweeb150B]

The annualization of franchises needs to die. This is a terrible trend and it's killing the devs more than we know.

[@GodleyX]

I am very passionate about gaming and I have a lot of game ideas of my own. I have several notebooks full of my own ideas and artwork for games and characters and everything about games I wish I could make. But I am way too hesitant to even try and learn anything about making a game. Simply because I don't want to get sucked into terrible things... Ideally, I would be the head of a small group of imaginative, passionate, dedicated people to create these great games that don't exist. But I know it will never happen... So I continue to pour my dreams into notebooks, and tuck them away..

[@kellybrigham6903]

I'm in the same boat. I was planning to go to college to be a 3d animator (for reasons, it didn't work out.) but I met the instructors, I told them about what I wanted to do, later stayed in contact with them, and they basically coached me on the side for a while. They showed me where I can download softwares to make both 2d and 3d games, sites to get good quality textures, and even pre-made character models. You literally can make your own game by yourself if you have the time to spare. Look at the dude who created FEZ, he made a fantastic imaginative and expansive world by himself, I believe. If you have ideas and at least want to give them a shot, it never hurts to try :) If you want to mess around in one of the engines and see how it works, look up the unity engine, I personally found it easiest to work with, especially for 2d games. There should be a trail version on the site that Has everything for free c:

[@MrGamer1992]

You should check out Dust An Elysian Tail. Metroidvania-type game that's very good and made by 1 guy (minus music and va) It's out for 360, PC, Mac, and even Linux.

[@MrGamer1992]

on mobile, no EDIT button yet. Dust is also on PS4

[@Cheerfuljochan]

You can always try going into it, sure it's going to be a hard road and there may be a lot of bumps on the way, but at least you tried or succeded and can use that experience for something else. Though as my dad has always said "Always have a plan B in your pocket".

[@tombrearley-smith5777]

I have a question: Which is worse: Ubisoft, Activision or Konami?

[@Camino377]

Nah, Konami. Ubisoft is a shit company but Konami is doing all the same as Ubisoft, plus screwed Kojima out of everything he's worked for, even to the point of removing his credit in MGS V and intentionally went out of their way to prevent him from going to the Game Awards last year to accept the award that he was meant to receive. If you haven't seen much about it, look up AlphaOmegaSin Konami rants on youtube. He's a bit...crude in his methods, but he get's his point across.

[@noivern666]

Konami > Activision > Ubisoft

[@GuitarHeroKing500000]

wtf guys are you serious? after what activision did with destiny? activision makes ubisoft and konami look like good companies.

[@Camino377]

***** Care to elaborate? Last I checked, Activision, while a shitty company, never fired their lead designer and went out of their way to prevent him from receiving the recognition, nor did they announce last year they are ceasing all AAA title development and turning most of their series into fucking Pachinko machines.

[@tombrearley-smith5777]

Camino377 And as far as their "AAA titles" are concerned, when it is not a 'Left 4 Dead' or 'Dead Rising' clone with the Metal Gear name slapped onto it (you know what I mean), it is pro Evolution Soccer, which is basically the same thing every year like FIFA (from my own knowledge).

[@xX3alienpjXx]

The only companys that could save the gaming industry would be valve. Bethesda and rocktar. Mostly valve if half life 3 ever comes out

[@sebotrp]

Valve, Bathesda, Rockstar and probably Nintendo too.

[@MrTwhispers]

***** TRUTH! I enjoy more games from Bethesda and Rockstar than I do from Ubisoft and EA (Although EA is changing for the better as of late).

[@davidribeiro6874]

Nintendo also

[@vladthemanpire5894]

What about square? Or CD Projekt RED they don't have the ressources now but who knows the witcher 3 might sell 10 million+ .

[@IYamJayJay]

Rocksteady never let down yet

[@Acc0rd79]

Rich, this happens in so many companies and job types. I work for UPS and its the same exact way, you think you will have a 9 hour day as a driver but then in reality its 11 hours or so during the summer! You don't even want to know how long it is at Christmas time. Also, the managers at UPS go through the same thing, they are there before the drivers and stay till lets say 8pm or later every single night! Its the same thing, they are on salary and basically get paid beans for the hours they put in! That's just the world we live in, money is everything to those investors! PROFIT!!!

[@cannonballkid]

Acc0rd79 At least you are unionized there is a silver lining in that. Best of luck to you!

[@AdamShumpis]

I'm not surprised. Ubisoft churns out broken shit on PC and then when called out they tell you it is what it is or is working as expected regardless of your experience. I'm not sure why they even have customer support for PC users. The forums are a joke. They just let half the users post a million times about the same issue and then ban people who complain about the lack of response. Hell, I've had to take them to the BBB twice. The first time I won and then the second time they got away with it saying that 60fps with above recommended hardware cannot be considered optimal. They don't guarantee framerates on hardware they specifically recommend even though it's in on their website and in their fucking README files! The company is a nightmare on the PC end. I'll never buy another Ubisoft game as long as I live and when my customers or friends ask I actively persuade them AGAINST Ubisoft titles. They may have gotten me for $100 but I've gotten them for thousands in the long run. If you want to read more about my case specifically you can follow the link below: forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1443989-Huge-FPS-Drops?p=11671987#post11671987

[@zephyfoxy]

I read all that on the forum, what a nightmare.

[@AdamShumpis]

***** Also, notice how I start out as appreciative as possible and stay that way as long as humanly possible. You want a bigger nightmare? I should show you my Twitter DM's with these joker's. I have literally hundreds of them. That doesn't even mention the blatant lies on the BBB claim. It's a travesty to say the least. Their biggest issue now is apparently some sort of huge memory leak after patch 1.3 that the entire forum is blowing up about. Take a huge guess into what the developers are doing about it...I could go on an on but the forums speak for themselves. I just link my case as often as I can in hopes I steer a sale away from them. Maybe at some point one of these reviewer KZbinrs will pick it up and expose them. If not, I still did my part. Thanks for reading.

[@KhaoMortadios]

This is why I get pissed off whenever someone throws the word "lazy" when talking about game development. If you really have to use that word, you obviously have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about. People has this image of game development as something that's stupidly easy, nothing but fun, and earns you millions of dollars instantly. That's false as fuck. You get atrocious pay, unrealistic deadlines, working overtime so meeting that deadline _might_ be possible... It's incredibly stressing, difficult, and tiring. It's not just Ubisoft the one that works like this, there are companies with good policies out there (and even working in one of those is a lot of fucking work) but this shit is pretty much standard in the game development industry. Game development is hellish. When something about your game is broken, it's not because a greedy lazy bastard decided to take a break to swim in their pool with millions of dollars, it's because of shit company policies treating their workers like dirt and actually _expect_ them to work overtime so the have a chance to keep their job for a little bit longer. Meanwhile people are sitting on a chair insulting those developers on the internet because your game has a sub optimal framerate. If you want to blame anyone, blame the higher ups who make unreasonable decisions, not the hardworkers who are pretty much enslaved, that are trying to make the game as good as they can under those hellish conditions. So yeah, thanks for this video Rich. More gamers need to hear about this kind of shit.

[@1216Rockman]

We know game development isn't easy but it should be something the developers know how to do pretty well and revs like everybody in jobs can get lazy it may not be easy but depends on the person and company

[@Gogglesofkrome]

1216Rockman Yes, let's see you do 6+ hours in overtime every night for a year straight, without any pay for it AT ALL, including not seeing your family, kids, or friends for weeks on end. Even if you did see them, they would not be awake, considering you're at the 'office' more so than you're at home. You won't get the usual 7 hours of sleep that you need, and you're likely to spend the night at the office. OF COURSE THESE PEOPLE WHO SLAVE AWAY AT THE KEYBOARD 15+ HOURS A DAY, STRAIGHT, EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS-YEARS ARE JUST SO DAMN LAZY, RIGHT?

[@1216Rockman]

RedMatter Bro game development differs, also I know the can work overtime but still not a good reason to put out a broken product to which I also blame the publishers

[@Gogglesofkrome]

1216Rockman I understand that, but you're more likely to get a stable job working for a AAA company than an Indy comp, due to them mostly having high specifications for their workers. (This is mostly only a problem if you're just starting your career out). If you're going into Videogame development from the get-go of college (or your basement, wherever you learned to do what you do now), then you will be expected to have some prior work experience, for most of the jobs that you may be hired for. This is not the case for AAA companies, considering the number of other workers just like you already out there, just hoping to fill their resumes. The best way to go is to go Indy, but the risks are huge and you may end up losing more than you gained.

[@karlhans6678]

Khao Mortadios I really though that being an artist/programmer at a game company earns you lots of money and have a good ol time making the game.

[@durandlewis1382]

They were warning us this whole time... WHY DIDN'T WE REALIZE SOONER?!

[@pepito69]

😱

[@MrKristian252]

This is why Valve is so successful.

[@user-pj3js6uy7u]

Valve hasn't released a game in ages. You can't really compare it to this.

[@aidenthedickhead8978]

Last game was like portal or csgo. Also there games aren't all that good.

[@someguy315]

wtf there games are legendary(half life , portal , dota etc)

[@clumsyfawn1971]

Except their policies suck and their platform is only good to have games in one place, other than that steam is absolute shit, hl2 was a buggy mess and csgo is a monetizing game turning little kids into gamblers.

[@clumsyfawn1971]

+lego fan dota isn't made by valve, at least the original one. dota was a mod in warcraft 3 (blizzard game) and valve just used that mod to create their standalone game, lol..

[@117johnpar]

3 years later, The big publishers are still cranking out dumpsterfire after dumpster fire.

[@Versudan]

Oh ho, looks like your little prediction came true... How many big devs gave the finger to their companies this year?

[@PigWrangler]

Happening to all industries, it really comes down to the consumers. They want more faster so large companies want to do more with out paying more employees to make more money. I work at a news station its just as bad there, you can put in 10 hours on a project and management want you to go above and beyond over your shoulder the whole time but wont actually watch or give you feed back on the project. It's the world we live in and a huge reason is because of "ALL OF US" want more and more and more faster and faster.

[@warsilver99]

Why don't AAA game companies just take the extra time to build games instead of making people work overtime every day? Obviously it would cost them more money to build a game over a longer period of time, but if they want a good game then they should be willing to invest in a good game. I guess the big companies just think they can get away with it, which is really sad.

[@SporeDemigod]

> Obviously it would cost them more money to build a game over a longer period of time I think you just answered your own question. In the end, it all comes down to money.

[@Deadlyaztec27]

Because, they will always go with the cheapest gaming studios, and studios always screw eachother over by underbidding. Underbidding is terrible because everyone except the person giving the contract lose.

[@AtomicLegion]

I've been in QA for almost 5 years now. when he says the shit pay, super long hours, being treated like crap and then having the community treat you like shit for the bugs that you reported but weren't fixed. hit me right in the feels.

[@Yuliviee]

in what country do you live in? and for what company did you work for? im curious.

[@AtomicLegion]

I'm in Canada and I've worked for several companies like EA, funcom, to indie companies with no real names. and third party companies like babel media. and worked on phone games like peggle and world series of poker to console games like rage, lotr war in the north, once upon a monster and PC games like secret world and age of Conan. the list of titles I've worked on in my 5 years is incredibly long. I love making games but I have no passion for the companies.

[@AtomicLegion]

indie companies treated me well. they pay more and tend to have more accommodating hours/ will either pay your or compensate for most overtime. third party testing was min wage. you never knew you were scheduled to work unless you came in the morning to check the board which sucks if you weren't scheduled because you had to take the walk of shame out the office (I became a lead quickly in that company so I had solid hours despite being a few cents over min wage) the big companies were min wage or barely above. long ass hours which just gets banked. I was working at times 70 hours a week with no immediate compensation per paycheck. when I was laid off though, they had to pay out like 400 hours of banked overtime. I liked that. most common thing big or small companies that make their own games all tend to have free beer on Fridays. that's always nice. the problem with big companies is that you often aren't embedded with the developer's. you are in a separate area and they tend to treat you like you are lesser. to them you are the bottom of the totem pole. I think it's mostly cause there's no direct interaction and they see your bugs as telling them that they suck at their jobs. which isn't true. project managers, the design leads hate being told when their vision of something won't work.

[@fishfish6135]

I've got friends who have worked for certain developers, I know what you're talking about.

[@RealBadGaming52]

if the bugs u report aren't fixed, then why the fuck do they bother with QA People

[@soulnoyz8514]

The problem of the game industry is not the only one, I for many have done the graphic designer in the adv and I have more or less the same thing that the world of work pursuing only the money tears the passion in your profession. Extraordinary hours of work, no recognition of your efforts etc etc

[@ks_ig2728]

I asure you that Ubisoft is a great company! Paid for and Sponsored by Ubisoft

[@miisher]

It's You-Be-Soft. Not OOO-Be-Soft Geez

[@JwayT]

french words...

[@pretendsushi2929]

I originally went into computer science because I loved gaming (and still do) but now, after graduating, I didn't DARE look at any game dev jobs because even though I am passionate about developing, I'm also passionate about, y'know, living

[@martinarnold5239]

I'm concerned to hear this is happening in the UK (not that it's better if people are exploited anywhere else). Our government made a big deal about supporting this industry, but as usual that translates to support for the bosses and fuck all for the workers

[@walter0bz]

G. Whistler games have just changed. it takes a huge amount of work to make modern games, and not enough people buy them to fund it 'comfortably'. just a symptom of the world generally, life is getting harder, on average for everyone for reasons beyond..

[@martinarnold5239]

walter0bz the main problem is with publishers making unreasonable demands. Instead of releasing iterations of the same crap every year, take time with something new and don't advertise it until it's ready

[@tiffles3890]

+G. Whistler Its a funny thing that with obvious problems in your country presently, your govt. made a promise to support gaming industry. That itself should say it all.

[@cantryss]

Why don't game Dev's unionized?

[@khiemluong4591]

Why do you pronounce it like "Oo"bisoft instead of normally "Yu"bisoft

[@nickautomotivegameunboxing1578]

Khiem Luong it's stupid it's meant to be a joke

[@kingdomoffryslan4920]

I pronounce it Goobisoft

[@MagneticDwarfReptile]

Independent music has existed for decades, and a drop in album sales is largely due to music streaming services. RIAA just recently started certifying digital album streams, so we will start seeing an increase in platinum sales again.

[@Knuffeldraak]

A user-friendly game building engine already exists, for those who lack knowledge both in coding and artwork: Unreal Development Kit :P.

[@1216Rockman]

Not all game can be made in Unreal

[@Knuffeldraak]

1216Rockman udk is limitless

[@BOFDJake]

I don't know how user-friendly the CryEngine is but it's a great engine. I just thought I'd throw this in because of that one indie game, that's really huge and got a bunch of money through Kickstarter or something. I forgot the name but yeah.

[@WolfSilverLone]

omg I thought you were going to say unity... I would have had to slap a filly for that one

[@karlhans6678]

Uriel de Vries You can cod in UDK and create 3D models?

[@jaymthegenius]

This guy is probably the best gaming journalist ever.

[@KnKsk8]

I interned at Ubisoft and it was horrible, my classmates hated it, my teacher hated working there, some of the speakers we had come in hated working at Ubisoft. It's horrible. This guy is almost spot on, I believe him.

[@saltcandle]

it seems like the actual review has been removed as I tried to visit the page but it says link has been removed......wonder who did that.....

[@ilyamiller4131]

the game Outlast was cofounded by veterans who worked for companies like Ubisoft and Naughty Dog The industry can be used to get you on your feet for development so you can do it independently, at a risk I think working on the industry is a unique opportunity for learning and getting a better bigger picture, despite the bad moments

[@gunther276]

Lootcrate hates Ubisoft

[@cristian-si1gb]

Sorry Rich, but I have a limit... I didn't believe the last 2 so called "leaks from Ubisoft employees" - the one about the Division (very conveniently posted on a small, unknown site that had about 3 pages of news, all about Ubisoft games that featured a letter that seamed written by an pissed 12 yeast old) and the one about an Ubisoft employee (opsie.... We're starting to see a pattern here...) that came to a school.... (ha-ha-ha!!!) And the thing was posted by a kid obsessed with r/pcmasterrace on /r/pcmasterrace that everybody knows it's a joke. That was there.... Right at that school... What an coincidence... And you should read the original one. I still have no idea how could somebody believe it. For some reason I didn't get so mad back than, but this... The third time....??? Same story : an anonymous guys sends a angry letter to site X which makes it public. People have started an new habit from these things.. . OF COURSE THEY'RE ALL FAKE!!! IN WHAT WORLD DO YOU GUYS THINK WE'RE LIVING IN?! 1. What kind of moron endangered his own job (high rang, good pay - even if he knew secrets, I guess he would know how to keep them) just for worthless sit like this, that barely affects the consumer, not to mention himself! 2. They don't speak like that. The letters seem to be written by angry fan-boys, not grown up man. Even if they would want to say something about what's been happening , they wouldn't say it like that. 3. They don't freaking care about these thinks! You like it or not, there is no big boss that says they should downgrade every game and things like that! All they do has a reason. And they work hard, and they're proud of their games and they wouldn't talk like that about neither them or their company (if they wouldn't like it, they would just leave). 4. They're mostly European and Canadian (they're not stupid Americans that afford to pull stuns like these out of stupidity). They would just stop at the though that nobody would believe the letter or that the company will find out and sue them.

[@JaidynReiman]

1.) You do realize that according to the article it was a supposed EX-Ubisoft employee, right? Not saying the article is true or not, but you kinda shot yourself in the foot with that first note.

[@robm6645]

You could try *actually reading* what the letter said, or hell even just watch the video it was mostly about the development cycle and working conditions.

[@Badbufon]

it really doesnt matter if is legit or not, because what that guy said was a truth, corporations are getting worst and worst, and a lot of famous programers are becoming indie to make their own games at their own terms.

[@cristian-si1gb]

Rob McCune That part is there just to fill in the empty space and give the whole thing more credibility. Nothing concert, just clichéic stories about employees that are being compared with slaves just to make the company look bad.

[@JaidynReiman]

***** I think its probably fake, mainly because no one would stick around working these extremely long hours without extra pay.

[@gamersanonymous4me131]

100 employees working all year for $40k a year would be 4 million$ and how much do AAA titles make? Far Cry 4 sold over 7 million copies in the year it came out. So at a sale price of 3$ per copy that would be 21 million $ and they would have enough to pay 300 employees and still keep a tidy sum of 9 million $ but wait......they didn't sell for $3 a game did they? WHERE DID ALL THE MONEY GO????

[@grandeve7531]

There's a reason why I only pirate Ubisoft games.

[@Jonathankiller100]

What is pirating?

[@grandeve7531]

Jonathankiller100 Sailing the seas with a black flag pillaging and plundering boats.

[@LPgmxDan]

+Char Aznable you forgot the must important part about pirating... finding the one piece

[@grandeve7531]

Daniel HS[4] Teehee c:

[@corktail7900]

Jonathankiller100 pirating means getting the game free without paying. its mostly illegal

[@greedycreaks8491]

What if Ubisoft is the real life Abstergo?

[@handsomejack8758]

Ubisoft is an embarrassment to the gaming industry but you have to admit 2:57 was some pretty slick bomb placing skills.

[@templeofflesh7310]

Last decent YOU-BSOFT game imo was Rainbow Six Las Vegas 2

[@WonToTwee]

Ubisoft worse then EA

[@Stern98257]

Can we gamers just agree to not buy games from these producers? That way they understand that quality is more important than quantity

[@tomaarten]

have you seen how well gaben treads their employees :D they could learn from them

[@1ncu6us]

All hail lord Gaben! His dolphin smooth skin , majestic beard and dominating chin will lead us to a better place. Follow him and he will show us his love, lead us to the winter/sommer sales. Can you see the 90% off on triple A titles! His lordship will come to us in times of need for cheap ass games. So i say let us worship our majesty , start praying today. it might be not too late to repel and see the light. The light emerging form his beard , his holy powerful beard , stronger than anything you ever witnessed. Dont fear my brother! Your Highness awaits you! Show your love to him and he will show you his! Gaben is love, Gaben is life.

[@mm2900mm]

Admittedly I never fact-checked the articles, but there are supposedly an increasing amount of articles out there explaining the slave-like conditions most game developers are treated with by major companies. So this isn't something new. Whether the guy is real or not. From what I remember Ubisoft is up there amung the worst but it wasn't the worst.

[@duality7]

Doesn't surprise me. The working conditions within a company is reflected in its products No Ubisoft game has impressed me except for FarCry. Even FarCry seems somewhat soulless. AC sucks, Watch Dogs sucks, everything they do sucks. Hence why I stopped buying Ubisoft games,

[@akamatsuken]

I think you forgot about Uplay also.

[@nopsterguy9714]

Nunmuduru the division was such a disappointment

[@supermeuhmeuh]

i'm guilty of loving rainbow six siege

[@AnthonyBlamthony]

Nunmuduru Rainbow Six Seige...

[@jrwilliam3742]

At least they made child of light

[@riennafoutre3833]

i have only one thing to say: the best example of crap, and rushed out games = Assassin's creed.......yaawwwnnn. They are all crappier than the one before.

[@Pericles777]

This completely explains why "The Division" on PC has been fucked up so much..........100%

[@djAmored]

It is amazing, you never hear these kind of complaints from Studios like Valve, Blizzard, etc. These studios don't rush out games; they make sure their games are solid and great quality. And it shows. Difference I have notice between PC Gaming, and Console gaming, is that quality games made by PC Game developers have a longevity to them. Counter Strike, Quake 3, Quake Live, even Warsow, made by independent devs, had really good longevity. World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2, DOTA. People are unwilling to move on from these games because they are that good. I can't think of a single game on console, that is beyond 2-3 years old, that people will still play for 4-6 hours a day, like the games on the PC platform.

[@djAmored]

Yea that makes sense. I wonder if developers at Rockstar go through this. I'm not a fan of GTA, but that game seems to be rock solid every release. What is it, like 2-3 years, sometimes 4 years, between releases? No wonder that game sells well every single time.

[@djAmored]

Ahh yes, Skyrim. That's true. I forgot about Skyrim. I hope these devs make solid games for console. But I think console is a more transient audience. Too many games, not enough quality games. But that's a problem on PC as well tbh.

[@PirateTubeTV]

Blizzard is like an old company from the early 90's back then businesses had standards. People complain about Microsoft but sure it might be boring to work there but you get all your benefits and you are able to leave by 5pm. Unlike Google which takes your soul.

[@zamirewilson7424]

Yeah.... A lot of the console games that people still talk about came out like many years ago not to sau they're aren't any great gamed on consoles, especially since that is my main form of play.

[@velardechelo]

Majority of companies are like this, not just gaming industry, Maybe if most of indie developers were the size of AAA companies, they could create awesome passionate games but like 1 every 10 years...

[@Drawsome_209]

i bet Activision is twice as worse

[@alecboyyes]

Christ, that tosser Bobby Kotick probably has the most punchable face in the industry.

[@od13166]

anyway still better than Deepsilver deepsilver is worst

[@od13166]

why the hell 50% dc that game even not released lmao!

[@LeandroXMLopes]

This is odd... xD A video that has more views than subscribers to the channel, well done!

[@AchHadda]

i have a video of 500k views and i only have 2500 subs its normal

[@WalrusQuake]

That happens literally everywhere, it's more common than not.

[@LeandroXMLopes]

When I looked, it was always the other way around xD

[@purpleAiPEy]

69 subs here.. 500k views get at me

[@TheGarageGaming]

don't forget guys people watch it then close it then carry on watching it after and some times the views add . I have no subs but have 30 views haha but don't feel sorry for me :D

[@cerealkiller5599]

Atlus, CD Projekt, Bethesda, Rockstars and the creators of Arkham games are the only guys I trust at the moment.

[@jjpablo]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOObisoft

[@niklausfletcher2290]

thats what happens in creative industries. A large/medium company will hire HR and 'managers' that do not have any background in the industry or have any knowledge of what it takes to produce content, and they will try and force everyone below them to work as if they were working in Tesco. Quality naturally takes a nose dive and massive mistakes are made. And it's always the content creators who get the blame when sales suffer as a result, then when the CEO starts looking for blame he sees his managers working hard disciplining people and he comes to the conclusion it must be the creative team. The worst thing is they all have this attitude of the content producers are easily replaceable but management is a vital role of any company and can't for the life of them figure out why after a while people start calling the company and the products they make soulless and boring.

[@keef78]

"All pc gamers are pirates" never a truer sentence spoken.

[@perfidiouspomegranate1599]

I'm not one, since I don't play many games and steam sales work fine for me, but I don't blame anyone for doing it. So many games on pc are buggy and broken, most aren't worth money at all, like no mans sky.

[@LiamCuthbert]

90% was probably a bit too high haha think of all the steam users lol but it is true that a big percent of pc gamers do pirate games very often. its easy to do so people will do it to save money. the console industry is more secure with that kind of stuff.

[@gcjas1998]

I know this comment is a bit old, but I wanna say, even though yes, I have pirated games in the past, I'm nearing 100 games on my steam library. I pirate usually when I wait to get on a sale a game I really want, or to try out if a title runs well on my computer, and I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there do it for the same reasons. Even if I occasionaly pirate, by all means I and others still support the industry as best as our budget allows us.

[@magical7703]

I like the record company reference. This biggest thing about that though is that people just aren't buying music, and record companies really just used to bring hype to the artist and their new album. The internet controls hype nowadays. We need more indie devs!

[@SwitchbackCh]

There's a similar situation with the anime industry in Japan. Constantly new anime is being made, which requires manpower. Every frame has to be hand-drawn, which requires people to draw them constantly. Animators who entered as passionate young artists get overworked with atrociously low pay and long hours and burn out, unable to support themselves. There's even cases of suicide and death from sheer stress. It's terrible.

[@theguardian8317]

The truly sad thing is that it's not only Ubisoft and it's not only the gaming industry and it's not only on the UK.

[@darthjarjar4771]

Taleworlds is a good example for what other companys should be like