Examples of Early Yijing Divination (3): The Grace of Confucius

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[@HansKr]

Dank je wel voor weer een geweldige uitleg!👌

[@zuzuzu4594]

Thank you for this clear example of hexagram 22, I also like your videos because they are very entertaining. 😊

[@SarahStoneLove]

Thanks for sharing 😊

[@advandepol7537]

Did you mention this proper name of hexagram 22 in the new Wilhelm edition?

[@YiTubeChannel]

No. I cannot add content that the original author did not write, unless it can help to clarify what the author meant or intended.

[@advandepol7537]

I already have two Wilhelm I Chings, the big one and red little one. What benefit does your version offer furthermore?@@YiTubeChannel

[@user-pp3lb2dn7p]

Sorry. I'm just a few minutes into your video. So I apologise if I am making a premature judgement. But I almost cannot believe that you said that Confucius did not consult the book of changes. And that the idea of change does not fit with Confucian teachings. That seems rather absurd to me. With no disrespect to your option. I would love to hear your perspective on the following direct quotes from the Analects. In chapter 17. 述而十七。 Confucius says, if a had a few more years to learn the Book of changes, I will not make mistakes. This is my translation. But the relevant meaning is clear. He consulted and venerated the book of changes. I can go on to discuss how Mencius called Confucius the sage of time. Signifying that Confucius will act in accordance with the changing conditions and makes the right decision at the right time. And also his teaching of changing rituals through out the different eras.

[@YiTubeChannel]

Your judgement IS premature as you haven't watched the whole video and don't address the points and sources that I give in the supplement: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYDMYqCqlrVobK8. The quote from Lunyu chapter 17 is addressed in that video, as well as the notion that the concept of change is inherent in Confucius' teachings. That Mencius calls Confucius 'the sage of time' (source please) is not relevant as it does not say anything about Confucius' use and view of the Book of Changes. For the same reason 'his teaching of changing rituals through out the different eras' (explain this please) is not relevant either. Please address the points made in the video and refute my sources with your own sources.

[@user-pp3lb2dn7p]

@@YiTubeChannel Thank you so much for your reply! I must first apologise if the tone of my previous comment may appear quite harsh. I do not mean to sound sarcastic when I said "if my judgment is premature". I did not have a lot of time on my hands when I was listening to your teachings. I know it to be a great sin of learning to judge prematurely. I appreciate very much your time to write back to me. I am currently studying the supplement material as it is a lengthy and thorough discussion, I aim to study it in more detail before providing you with a more reasoned response. The topic you have raised is a very important one. Thank you again for all the effort that went into the supplment to raise all the academic contentions on the topic!