Excellent techniques in heavyweight final | Real Wing Chun #6

[@jarradhurley4866]

I think the thing most people don't understand in the comments section is that wing chun isn't made for sparring or for these kinds of fights. They're made for when someone attacks you in real life. In this sparring you see these guys regularly pull themselves out of balance, out of their stance, and try to do things that aren't wing chun to bridge the gap between them. When you're attacked, the attacker has bridged that gap for you, and that's when wing chun fighters are really playing to their strengths.

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

That's what you're let to believe, but if you ''bridge the gap'' in real-life, people close the distance and move into clinching. That's just a fact.

[@crandallexpo0648]

You both are correct

[@curtisdavis92]

🤣🤣🤣sure

[@nintendonarutofan]

Damn the black helmet guy got his world rocked at 1:16. When he punched the red guy at 1:43 it felt like that was revenge

[@R_Priest]

Good job.... but why is it that they don't seem to want to get into "trapping range"? If you're afraid of the trapping range, you're not doing Wing Chun.

[@jcsnoopy]

Very nice! Please make more videos

[@spiritosilente9754]

For Many years traditional styles in Sporting formula were become in a strange kickboxing.now there is an evolution in this contact version,it s possible test owner s skills,good job and good clean fight,i like it very much.

[@chaos_omega]

Exactly. As peope gain more experience with full contact wing chun and it becomes more popular, skill levels will also increase. Distinct and effective styles can emerge this way.

[@spiritosilente9754]

@@chaos_omega yes!absoloutely.

[@davidherron3136]

Red guy started to dial it in and got excellent as he decided to move to the side after his punches

[@johnradford5904]

Quite refreshing to see. Much more interesting than the repetitive pointless chi Sao videos we are normally bombarded with.

[@R_Priest]

No chi sao, no Wing Chun. If you don't like chi sao, go do boxing. Kudos to these guys, but they'd be taken apart by a boxer because they're using short range weapons (squared off straight punching) at boxing range.

[@instance3905]

good

[@ang3l008]

veery good match

[@paolo3594]

Wing chun ? Nel wing chun non ci si piega in avanti , non si fanno solo pugni a catena. Non si usa la forza. Hanno un wing chun di basso livello e di bassa qualità.

[@Rider_J]

Молодцы, класс!

[@evilchessplayer]

👏👏👏

[@luchogallardoleon]

¡Cover yourselves!

[@johnleo5004]

No hooks allowed because that's cheating apparently.

[@Whatsupguys-25]

Isnt cheating its evolvin

[@jalanc5095]

Strikes are incredible, ability defend... zero.

[@johncasarino5627]

Alright well looking at this comment section and looking at this fight I feel I have to say there is two camps in the comments and I disagree with them both. The first camp is people who practice wing chun in the non sparring context and are saying this is not wing chun because wing chun concept A isn't applied to correct situation B or whatever. You guys simply do not understand combat shock and the sheer randomness of non pre ordained movement, you actually think when people are moving around and being socked in the head that they will put the correct move on the centerline where it goes in the drills? God you are out of touch, this LOOKS like as much wing chun based movement as you can fit into a moving situation, your drills won't magically make what they are supposed to make happen when the other guy is moving and doing things outside of the drill's 'correct' reponse for that move. As for the other guys.... so yeah the mma comment section dorks (whom I utterly doubt have ever trained a martial art in their life, let alone mma itself) have their usual misconceptions arise from brute hearsay influencing their beer guzzled minds. Okay so first thing first when you watch UFC or even ONE championship you are seeing EXTREMELY high grade athletes competing over their CAREER itself, that is their livelihood, the sheer amount of training and conditioning those guys do every single day is something the average person just cannot do, high level kickboxers and mixed martial artists have sacrificed all other aspects of their lives to be at the level they are at so they can get paid, so all they do is train, if wing chun was a part of their methodology (of which in some it has) they will optimise it's strong points as a part of their curriculum, they just tend to focus on the pieces applicable of the four pillars (mauy thai, boxing, wrestling, bjj) because those arts have long lineages of competition and integration into mma, this is recently starting to change with people introducing practical parts of more exotic martial arts into mma. Now remember, the four pillars as individual arts alone get completely outdone by mma because they each specialise in a certain area and have severe weaknesses and blindspots outside of their combination into mma. Now to further the point if you go and find a local mauy thai or boxing tournament near you, you probably aren't gonna see the immensely crisp movements and display of immense skill you see in the big promotions, you probably won't even see a knockout, in fact you'd have just as much chance of seeing a knockout there as you would at a full strength point sparring competition put on by some karate or tkd lineage.

[@johncasarino5627]

ultimately this is as good as it can get for wing chun, that is for now, what we need is for the best fighters in this league to start competing against other martial arts within a ruleset that favours wing chun's abilities as well as allowing the other art to show it's strengths, if some of the best fighters start seriously training their wing chun to combat other arts then we will see if over 75% of wing chun can overcome or be adapted to overcome other martial arts, for now this is a step in the right direction.

[@Sexy-Beine]

You have forgotten that Capoeira is often used by MMA fighters. There are many who have adopted individual martial dance techniques.

[@GMizza]

@johncasarino5627 You said it! Too many WC guys criticize other WC guys for their sparring not looking like a perfect drill, when they have never sparred themselves. They want to feel superior without actually deserving it. And they think they can beat combat athletes in a street fight lol, but most never even watch combat sports, and have never been in an actual fight. They know nothing of the enemy they think they can beat. The four pillars you speak of all have to be adapted for MMA because, as you said, outside of their respective rule sets, they have huge weaknesses. I believe that Wing Chun guys who spar and adapt their methods to MMA rules are going to be very hard to beat in the future. Unfortunately, most wc guys are handicapped by their intellectual pride and lack of athleticism and sparring.

[@dgs_susave1324]

They’re not even doing wing chun moves. Don’t get me wrong I know it’s not gonna look the same as how it looks when you’re training on the dummy or on another person but they aren’t even using wing chun methods. Their stance alone would get them downed in a real mma fight. Boxers can also take advantage seeing as we can be the aggressor while maintaining good posture and defense. This looks like two brothers fighting over nothing.

[@dgs_susave1324]

@ 0:13-0:15 this guy tried a leg trap whilst delivering chain punches. Their teacher must’ve not taught them about centerline control

[@crandallexpo0648]

I think the sparring should consist of this one guy be wing chun the other be just an "average joe" attacker

[@crandallexpo0648]

But this is good to to get used to being hit and practicing but yeah

[@myboy_]

I don't think you know much about wing Chun if you're not recognizing it here

[@dgs_susave1324]

@@myboy_ trust me I recognize r we I got chun.. I’ve had first & second hand experience with wing chun. This is not it.

[@yeetman4953]

Is this a joke?

[@mustifn5940]

Yeah

[@thomasbrown3793]

Did you laugh?

[@murkthemeek9575]

No it's not a joke, nothing about it seems to be a joke.

[@yeetman4953]

@@murkthemeek9575 no its so bad its funny

[@murkthemeek9575]

@@yeetman4953 They would kick your ass.

[@formertenant9276]

No wonder wing chun guys get murked in MMA

[@xiaolong.1993]

in MMA the matches with other martial arts are piloted

[@formertenant9276]

@@xiaolong.1993 wing chun is not as effective as I once thought... if it was it would most certainly be involved and utilised in mma

[@crandallexpo0648]

@@formertenant9276 it actually is and has been used... By several fighters... But you are correct there have been some who use it success and some who have not just as boxers win and lose and grapplers win and lose. It's the individual who puts the work in that makes it work in many situations...

[@crandallexpo0648]

Wing chun has never let me down in an altercation. But I also know where you are coming from as well... This video is good.. but I think they should move also towards practicing and sparring like " one individual be wing chun to work his moves and learn his /her flow and the partner/opponent be an average joe street fight attacker, then mma attacker to break up the doctrine ya know.. that's what they are really missing...

[@silentassassin423]

@@formertenant9276 Any fighter who trains only one martial art loses in MMA. It's not special to wing chun. You need to mix different styles.

[@charlieahanotu4567]

Wing chun by itself is garbage but incorporated with grappling, muay thai and kickboxing it becomes dangerous.

[@yeetman4953]

Check out qi la la

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

@Someone who know how to If you think butterfly knives are useful in this day today, then you clearly don't understand anything.