Exclusive: Tesla Universal Wall Connector First Use

[@FoamCrusher]

Thank you for doing an intermediate video to answer the questions generated from your “first look” video the other day. Your channel is the best, most honest and comprehensive in the world of EV charging. 😻 Keep up the great work.

[@hoffmantnt]

Well said.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thank you so much for saying that. I work hard to provide unbiased charging information for people that have, or want to, transition off ICE and drive electric.

[@ArtiePenguin1]

​@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks for also making this quick follow-up video before your vacation. I look forward to your return to the Batteries Included Podcast in a few weeks.

[@euphan123]

Or just get a Tesla…

[@ranig2848]

This would be HUGE in hotels and destination chargers. With NACS becoming the standard, anyone who knows anything about chargers would opt for tihs. Would reduce the need for doing half J1772 and half Tesla. All chargers can use same unit and offer better utilization.

[@Muddy_B]

Omg, so true!!

[@simoc24]

Absolutely

[@whattheschmidt]

Yep, if I was a business offering some lvl 2 charging I would absolutely install these!

[@markhovis8033]

Either this or equivalent. Tesla universal wall connector is the new standard.

[@ArtiePenguin1]

Yes, businesses need to be made aware of this and it would be nice if regular Tesla Wall Connectors were upgraded to this one. As Tom showed, it's a simple upgrade that doesn't require any new wiring. A lot of hotels and other destinations only include one J-1772 charger (usually a ClipperCreek) when they have more Tesla Destination chargers. Also the J-1772 unit is sometimes on a lower power circuit compared to the Tesla.

[@chriswestenskow5202]

It takes a few seconds longer because the EVSE tries the Tesla proprietary AC charging protocol 1st, then when that fails, it switches to J1772, then starts charging.

[@curtisbme]

It shouldn't as it knows the j1772 adapter is being used.

[@charliesullivan4304]

You would think it would know that when the adapter isn't docked, it should go straight to J1772.

[@chriswestenskow5202]

@@curtisbme It could be made that way, but the adapter is passive and the interlock could be handled by separate controls. This would allow them to basically leave the main board unchanged, since all Tesla AC chargers already have the fail-over to 1772 logic built in.

[@DavidJao]

Wait what? Tesla doesn't have a proprietary AC charging protocol. AC charging is always done using the J1772 protocol. Only DC charging uses a Tesla proprietary protocol.

[@curtisbme]

@@chriswestenskow5202 Could be but it is still a stupid design if they chose not to simply add the sensor to know it is open and give a better customer experience. Not that they really care to prioritize the experience that for any non-tesla customer though.

[@ezpoppy55]

As always, top notch on this initial test of the EVSE charger. 👍🏼

[@im4udevco]

Tesla never fails to impress me. Thanks Tom and waiting for the full review.

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

Elon is,,,, Tony Stark.

[@AlainODea]

This is a pretty slick product. Great demo Tom! Looking forward to the full review once your testing is done.

[@erickgiliberti647]

I've been watching your reviews for a while now and you helped me decide on leasing a 2024 Ioniq 5 AWD Limited as a 2nd vehicle. Picked it up yesterday and couldn't be happier with the car. Hopefully that'll be the case for the entire lease period. This review in particular helped me decide on getting the Tesla universal charger. Six months ago, we picked up a new X5 50e for my mother and I installed the Tesla charger and purchased a Lectron J1772 adapter. My thought process has always been to future proof since I believe the NACS connection is the standard all manufacturers will eventually adopt. The unit w/ adapter works perfectly, but I definitely like the 1 manufacturer solution Tesla offers with this unit. Thanks for all of the great content and please keep it coming. You officially have a new subscriber as of the time I'm submitting this comment :)

[@garye2906]

This will be great as a destination charger!

[@ReverendRandy]

I am impressed by the efficiency, utility and versatility of this new TESLA charger!! Thank you Tom, very inspiring! Peace

[@barryw9473]

I find a Park Tool torque wrench is perfect for heavy duty wiring. Just used it to connect my 10 gauge 30 amp circuit wire to my Bryant NEMA 14-30 industrial receptacle.

[@Custo911]

The excitement comes through clearly. Rather infectious :)

[@NoOne-lv6uw]

Nice review as always. Just wanted to say, I work at an OE and while my colleagues were deciding which charger to get for sales, I recommended watching hours of your reviews at night to them instead of Netflix. Their eyes glazed over as I described the battery of tests and features but in the end I think they chose well.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Tom, please ask your Tesla EVSE engineer to turn this universal wall connector into an EV vending machine. Tesla accounts already perform direct billing to user. CCS users could get a Tesla charging account to pay for electricity used. No need for an EVSE display or buttons because all controls are in Tesla app and cell phone. Consider how this helps EV charging at condominiums, HOAs, and apartments. Currently, professional chargers supporting multiple accounts cost from $2000 to ChargePoint’s $9000. None are universal.

[@jimparr5412]

Thanks for for doing this Tom. I look forward to your full review. Have a great holiday!

[@mahdielectrified]

I like this unit a lot and the reason is its multi-purpose concept. Also this try out feels like Tom is as in his childhood times trying it out as I would be unwraping my christmas presents..😅

[@jim76356]

Looking forward to the full review thanks Tom.

[@ivanobulo]

It''s a great option for hotels and other public places that offer public charging. I stayed in several hotels on a road trip recently and many of them had free Tesla chargers (mostly Gen2 and 3). But none of them had the option for non-Tesla charging. Now they can simply swap existing units to these and enable other EVs charge there.

[@afr1952]

Thank you so much for this quick follow up video. Looking forward to your full review next month.

[@amandaadler1860]

I just picked up my lightning this afternoon, and I wish that this charger was coming out before October, I’m not waiting that long. But I may upgrade to this in a few years. Looks amazing.

[@DennisMathias]

Popular for about a year and then all new EVs will have the Tesla NAS connector. Still a nice hardwired solution at 48 amps. However, the mobile box is half the price and is portable giving 40 amps which is not too bad. It comes with the manual adapters.

[@andrewt9204]

Mobile connector with changeable plugs is only 32A, the one with a hardwired 14-50 can do 40A but is now discontinued. Even if all EV's sold have NACS in 2 years (they wont), there's still going to be millions of J1772 cars out there for a long while. A unit like this will still be popular for a couple years at least, and for businesses even longer.

[@billjohnson3344]

Hi Tom. Please try this with an eGMP car if you can, which don't currently work well with Tesla equipment (wall and mobile chargers). Typically that requires the car to turned on/off, and cable plugged and re-plugged. The fact it seemed to take awhile for your Bolt to activate charging has me thinking they still will have an issue with those cars. Tesla seems to try Tesla proprietary protocol first before J1772, and eGMP cars seem unhappy with that historically. At least with the Tesla wall / mobile charger and a TeslaTap type adapter.

[@rengle3]

I use a Tesla tap with a Tesla mobile charger with my Ioniq 5 and have no issues, but please do double check!

[@tjackele]

I have been using this universal wall connector with my Ioniq 5 for 3 weeks with no faults.

[@jorgecintron9674]

I’m wondering when Tesla decides they won’t be shipping vehicles with the free J1772 adapter. It’ll happen. More cost cutting coming soon!

[@soapyd2]

I appreciate the level of detail you include in your videos. The mounting holes is a small detail that others might overlook. I ordered one to replace and move the NACS one away from the Rivian. I am assuming this will work just like the standard one and share a circuit for load sharing? Thanks!

[@nycameleon]

Great for businesses... The home use case is a harder sell... If you buy a gen 3 with and an external adapter, you can use the adapter at tesla destination chargers. So pros and cons for locking down the adapter to the station.

[@klantic2]

Damn. I want to swap out my V3 for the UC. That way if friends come over they can charge if they need to! This is perfect!

[@douglashempel8037]

Thanks for the super quick follow up!

[@EV-Darryl]

Great video. Thanks for getting this out so quick.

[@explor794]

first time I’ve seen your videos, you come across as very authentic. Nice work.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thanks and welcome

[@peldridge2627]

Awesome! Tesla is so ahead of the pack... I have a Mach E and charge it at home on a Tesla charger using a Tesla Tap adapter (large one) and have never had a problem with either the charger or adapter. Or the car, for that matter. But this Tesla charger solves all those issues! I'm ok right now with what I have but this unit sure gives me something to think about. Thanks for the quick initial demonstration!

[@lowfuel6089]

I'm in the same boat! Was hoping this could just snap on to the Gen 3 wall plate but it seems from this video that you have to use the new wall plate? So it's a little more complicated than I'd hoped

[@cccaaa9034]

Thank you for proving that you won't get electricuted if you touch the electrical contacts on the J1772 adapter before plugging it into the vehicle. Your thumb clearly was bridged across the electrical cotacts.[15:26]

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

All EV charging equipment is de-energized until it's connected to the vehicle and the two communicate to enable power to flow. You cannot be shocked.

[@riceball777]

If this was out 6 months ago I would have got it so I don’t have to use after market adaptors. I have a gen 3 tesla wall connector that I use to charge my bmw i3 and my model x and I use the lectron 48amp tesla to j1772 adaptor. It works great.

[@andersn8547]

Tesla is just next level.

[@RedBatteryHead]

Smart piece of kit. Like those well thought solutions.

[@hedleypepper1838]

Wow TESLA sending anything out for review is true advertising. Goid job 😊

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

This is great! Edit: enjoy the time off!

[@frankzalewski7993]

Great device and video thank for your time

[@kelviskelvis7140]

Thanks - very helpful follow up preview.

[@adamchoi8136]

That’s pretty slick.

[@mrpogi23]

this is good for people who don't have home evse yet... but for those who already have them, its more financial sense to just have a nacs adapter (cheaper) than replace the whole thing.

[@scottsmylie1298]

This will be perfect for hotels, apartment complexes or any longer term public charging.

[@john-sea]

I wonder how people will know it’s capable of J1772 charging and how it works? Need some sort of infographic.

[@dannyschacht4274]

Thanks Tom, for helping me finally figure out which charger I'll get..

[@tylerlovekeeper]

been following since I saw you on MKBHD Video that time. keep up the great work

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thank you

[@rontubbs4707]

Awesome! Thanks Tom!

[@mujjuman]

very surprising video! thank you making this! lots of good info and tips on here for sure. lots of new info... appreciate it so much

[@pauldesi]

Thanks for the update on this! Just awesome!

[@jferrer1973]

Great video. I got the charger but was concerned that the universal plug wasn't disengaging from the unit until you explained that it needs to be powered before releasing.

[@tedmoss]

Back in Feb even before I got my Tesla we hooked up to a VW ID4 with an adapter to test the Tesla charger after I installed it myself and it worked very well and was cheaper. You have to be careful that the adapter is actually up to spec when you use it on a level 3 charger though. We were only drawing 48 Amps.(On the Tesla, not the ID4).

[@andrewt9204]

Tesla -> J1772 won't allow DCFC "lvl 3" because J1772 by itself doesn't have DC capability. That's what the big ol' CCS connector is for. But there aren't any Supercharger -> CCS adapters anyway.

[@noonm3901]

Except for the MagicDocks @@andrewt9204

[@ROGERWALDMAN]

GREAT REVIEW ! THANKS

[@felaxchow207]

Definitely an elegant way to incorporate the Tesla plug and J1772 connector for charging at your destination just like the Magic Dock for their Supercharger stalls. Great for those short term rentals like Airbnb and the like without the worry of their customers needing to know what wall connector will be there and if it's compatible with their vehicle. For a garage situation is fine, but my only concern is management and security when it is fully accessible outside. You really don't want someone bold enough to mooch charge at your expense. I know their wall connector can manage Tesla vehicles since it can read higher level information to know what is authorized or not. J1772 is definitely not the case. The only way that is possible now is that to have it charge a per kWh basis would definitely discourage that type of behavior. I personally don't mind paying a reasonable cost for the electrons needed to top off my vehicle overnight and more than likely the cost is way less than DC fast charging. I remember the days when CNG vehicles was commercially viable and the possibility of fueling at home, I was asking where can I sign up since I have access to natural gas at my former home. However, for safety reasons it really didn't come to fruition and road tripping would've definitely suck. EV's however is possible and they're ways to time manage an electric clothes dryer circuit to make that happen compared to having a CNG fueling unit at home...

[@roncarguy6361]

Tom, thanks for your videos. I presume that since the Tesla UC "adapter" can't be removed from either the cable or EVSE base, it still would be prudent to carry an adapter, such as the Lectron for example, even if you install the new Tesla unit. It will be years before motels, garages, etc., purchase this new UC unit to replace the present J-1772 they already have installed. Would you agree?

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Yes, you'll still need a portable adapter for public charging.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

Now I want this in 80 Amp. For old 80A Tesla Model S, current and future F-150 Lightning plus my J1772 EV that isn’t being replaced any time soon. With load-sharing, a couple of these would be a great replace my for my old Enel-X JuiceBoxes that Enel-X has destroyed the functionality of. 🤬

[@brandenflasch]

All the typos on the torque message inside the unit are quite strange

[@cjonesplay1]

I'm calling dibs on the old TWC Tom. Please. 😆

[@sergiiloskutov]

Thank you for review. Please do the freezing test for it as well.

[@leonardferguson8413]

Thank you for the video👍🏾👍🏾

[@Freynightwalker]

Great review, it encouraged me to subscribe

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thanks for the sub!

[@deanrim4255]

Hi Tom! Super video! Thx! Last week, Tesla revealed that Cybertruck had bi-directional charging capabilities...and that the GEN3UWC + Gateway was required for this. Super interesting that GEN3UWC is capable of this and GEN3 (normal) is not! Could be why GEN3UWC is more expensive ($595 vs. $475). Would love your comments!

[@Pottery4Life]

Thanks.

[@suunraze]

We have both a Bolt and a M3LR in our driveway. This would be so handy

[@wheatcrunch]

Are the obvious typographical errors on the terminal torque label intentional to differentiate prerelease units? 3:03

[@envisionelectronics]

It would have to be. It’s such an obvious error.

[@Robert-pm6bm]

When you freeze it, can you splash some water into the connector holder location prior to cooling? I leave this charger outside and would like to see if they heat the latch to prevent freezing. Thanks!

[@ChairmanDDD]

Can you test it with eGMP? Most eGMP cars have issues with the generic adapters. The TeslaTap seems to be the only true plug and play for these

[@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190]

6:50 No!!!!!!!! You should need to stop charging and then unlock the charger using the Phone App or the Charging Control inside the car. Otherwise anybody could disconnect you and plug their car instead !!!

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

If the car is unlocked (as the Bolt was) you should not need to stop charging. This is how all EVs work. If the vehicle was locked, I couldn't have just pressed the connector and stopped charging. This is not different from how a regular J1772 connector works.

[@chaseh23]

Well this is definitely going to sell like hot cakes. Props to Tesla.

[@ChrisAbbey]

I hope they'll let us buy one of those adapters for home use, without the rest of the magic dock. I have a v2 home connector with the 80A supply that I'd love to just snap that adapter on to charge my wife's car.

[@donaldmiller1782]

Is this a pre-production unit? I saw several typos when you showed the closeup of the warning inside to only use copper wires. "Termnal" (missing an i), and "USB COPPER CONDUCTOR8" (with a B instead of E and 8 instead of S).

[@cesartrujillo4190]

Have a great vacation! Stay hydrated and wear sun screen!

[@rpguru9383]

The latest documentation for the high power wall connector actually says it can deliver 80 amps to vehicle. I'm surprised the universal wall connector can't do the same.

[@chriswestenskow5202]

I don’t see the High Power Wall connector on their website. The old V2 one supported 80a, but I’ve only seen the new V3 series support up to 48a. I also see that they have already removed the J1772 wall connector from their website. It looks like they are pointing all commercial charging customers to the new universal wall connector.

[@rpguru9383]

@@chriswestenskow5202 I see, I must've been looking at the gen 2 docs.

[@ghosttesla]

Great video!

[@shivpalvansadia9152]

Thanks for this! Did the Chevy's mobile/app recognize that the vehicle was being charged and was responsive to commands like "cease charging at 80%," and other features? Just bought a Fisker Ocean and wondering how the handshake/connectivity will be with the Fisker App.

[@mrdsn189]

Thank you!

[@BlueCollarEV]

I would like to see what rate it charges the Lightning at. I have the same one as you and my 80 amp charger is great when it works but it's obviously poor Siemens quality.

[@tazeat]

It says 48A all over the spec sheet, I don't know why it would charge at anything but 48A

[@BlueCollarEV]

@@tazeat I've charged at several tesla wall connectors with my Lightning using an adapter with different results. Sometimes it's 5kW Sometimes it's 10kW.

[@bmwlover56]

3:03 USB? You mean “USE”?!

[@andrewt9204]

Terrible spelling errors there. Termnal, USB, coductor8. Hopefully it's just some test units and they let the local chinese factory workers do any new verbiage for pre-production. They're not shipping until October so hopefully that will all be caught. Doesn't affect the unit itself but is unprofessional I suppose.

[@alanwardrop9575]

I'm glad someone is seeing straight. I missed the TERMNAL too. I hope they got the numbers right

[@bmwlover56]

@@andrewt9204 I saw that one too but the USB was way more obvious. I can't believe all of those got past someone.

[@ralanham76]

Awesome preview, just ordered mine. It says they start shipping in October.

[@markelkins8432]

So the only downer on this is that some vehicles can charge faster than the current limit of the Tesla AC wall charger. Which vehicles are these? F150... Also - is proper three-phase ever available (as in pretty much the rest of the world)? - that is 230 per phase, ~400V (or so overall)? Can North American based Teslas even charge off ~400V 3-phase AC power?? I've never figured out the full differences between North American and Rest of World AC charging rates... (e.g. 3-phase or not)

[@raymmmondo]

Fascinating! ❤

[@barryw9473]

Can you please show a close up view of how the J1772 locking lever is pressed? It looks a bit awkward to press.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

I'll try to do so in the full video review

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

Every time he says locking mechanism I think of how Muldoon said they should have locking mechanisms on the vehicle doors

[@Yanquetino]

Nice! But I think I'll just get a TeslaTap for my HPWC when I relinquish my Model 3 for a different EV.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

That'll work also

[@katieruelas6235]

Can you change amperage? I have a plug in hybrid BMW X5 that can only take 32 amps tops. I have Tesla charger Gen 3 and wondered how to change amperage between my Tesla S and the X5-any help would be appreciated

[@NAY2GAS]

Very Cool!!

[@brentftaylor]

Thanks for the information. I'm in the process of installing two at my commercial location. Do you have a video of how to set up the charge rate and price?

[@flyingjeff1984]

Judging from the Chinglish used on the backplate, it's not hard to guess where it was made.

[@user-sc4rg6be7o]

Are there 2 different types of Tesla Universal Wall Connector? The one i just bought from best buy has no PowerShare label on the front face of the charger but the one on the tesla website has the PowerShare icon on the front face to indicate bidirectional capability.

[@Reedith]

Do you need an extra wire to use cybertruck by directional charging ?

[@oz1827]

Looks like Tesla updated the app to let you add wall chargers now. 😊

[@stevecha3612]

Ah, I just installed 6 Gen 3 Tesla Wall Chargers and 5 of them are the NACS Tesla style and the 1 of them is CCS, sort of wish I would have put this new style in but hopefully in a few years 99% of EV’s will be NACS chargers

[@lucrichard3352]

I would like to know if the Tesla universal wall is using a universal app meaning than I can use all the options of the app as same as a Tesla car and non-Tesla car or there are some options only available for Tesla cars. Thx

[@terragrub197]

Very Cool.

[@outbackev-hunter6035]

did you not have to open up with the software also?

[@lemongavine]

7:06 we heard the contactor open, not close.

[@robertrobertson5120]

Once inserted into the vehicle, can the plug be removed from the adapter?

[@andrewt9204]

Looks like the locking mechanism is powered/actuated by the base. So no. You'd have to unplug the J1772 from the vehicle and dock into the base to be able to use the NACS plug.

[@walldemarserbia7213]

Hi I will like to see later down the ROAD a video if it possible to use the CCS adapter sold separated were you plug the TESLA connector to CCS and test it on BOLT-Ev and see at what rate it charge thanks. I own a Bolt-Ev also white

[@user-ff8ju1ee9b]

Would be good to see more videos with your Bolt.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Coming

[@jackezroj3460]

When you say not to use aluminum wiring in a charger, what do you do in a house that only has aluminum wiring ?

[@GNiessen]

That looks like a lighter and smaller adapter than you can buy currently.

[@Indypacecar82]

I think we'll install these at our dealerships. Then we'll have a charging connection for all vehicles

[@voldar70]

Nice test. Now if you could show in the video if the Bolt EV receives the same kW as a "normal" EVSE...

[@iChis23]

I have a Ford pro charger at the house and I was looking to add a charger at my office since I’m just using the travel charger there. Looking at this Tesla universal so I get best of both worlds. Is it worth it or should I go with something like a ChargePoint? Not sure if I’m gonna put the pro charger at the office since I’m at the office less amount of time so the faster charger would be good and the universal Tesla at the house that would charge overnight without a problem. Both of them can be outside, so that’s good news.

[@rosnow]

Darn I just got the Tesla J1772 a couple months ago for a weekend rental. Wish I could swap for this....