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Fearless In Devotion - Wrexham AFC Podcast

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@ZeScorpion
@ZeScorpion Жыл бұрын
As a West Ham fan, the fact you guys got the owners of your club to sit down for 45 minutes to do a podcast with fans fills me with both awe & jealousy..! Wrexham have been blessed & are certainly my second team from here on in. Delighted for you, long may it continue..! 🍻
@bc2297
@bc2297 Жыл бұрын
Arsenal fan here, we’ve had a little progress recently, Josh Kroenke is more interactive than “Silent Stan” but I echo 👆that guys opinion. Definitely jealous of your committed and obviously passionate owners. They are genuinely involved.
@coltoncouty3266
@coltoncouty3266 Жыл бұрын
and how they build on each others statements. it is bliss to listen to them speak about something that brings everyone so much joy.
@davelash8699
@davelash8699 Жыл бұрын
American West Ham fan here for 10+ years. The first time I've been so proud of an American owner of a football club. Excellent human beings
@justingrierson1698
@justingrierson1698 Жыл бұрын
I'm a West Ham Fan as well and Wrexham is also my second team
@MackAndrewSA
@MackAndrewSA Жыл бұрын
Another lifelong West Ham fan, here in Canada. Given our team's drop after two years of European qualifying finishes in the EPL I've been living precariously through Wrexham these past two years. It is the kind of story that we needed these past couple years. With their promotion to EFL2 I hope for more success for them. I think promotion is a lofty goal, but I think the best sign of success for them as a club will be more tournament qualifying by next season's end.
@TheHomesteadat
@TheHomesteadat Жыл бұрын
I guess it was about 6 weeks ago when something called "Wrexham" containing a photo of Rob & Ryan popped up unexpectedly in my KZbin feed. At that time I knew nothing about your area in northern Wales, the guys ownership interest in the club or its storied history, the "Welcome To Wrexham" series or, for that matter, much about soccer/football in general. However, that initial exposure piqued my interest to the point I've become a loyal follower of all things Wrexham AFC with hours spent watching KZbin videos. I happen to be a retired 74-year old man living in a rural area of Crawford, Texas just outside Waco. My heritage is English and Welsh from ancestors who came to America many generations ago. As my last name is Snowden, I suppose you can't be too much more Welsh than that (although I recognize the traditional spelling over there is Snowdon). Anyway, gentlemen, I enjoyed this podcast immensely and became a new subscriber. I look forward to many more as you discuss the growing fortunes of Wrexham AFC in the English League and its positive effect on your wonderful supportive community. Good luck to all!
@Connnor
@Connnor Жыл бұрын
I love uplifting comments, thank you!
@TheHomesteadat
@TheHomesteadat Жыл бұрын
@@Connnor Thanks, Conor. And I love uplifting situations which is exactly what I find the whole of the Wrexham AFC story to be. Lord knows we all can use some uplifting moments in our lives in this day & age. Best wishes to you & yours.
@fearlessindevotion
@fearlessindevotion Жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much!
@johnsearing9736
@johnsearing9736 Жыл бұрын
Huge wrexham fan here in Florida. Let me please say this, the number one reason I fell in love with the team wasn't bc of the team. It was it's people . The love and passion and fight the fans have to protect their beloved team spoke so many volumes to me . There is just nothing really like that here in the states. I can't recall a single team saved by it's fans. Thank you to the people of wrexham for keeping that history alive long enough for rob and Ryan to help towards the future. Much love from Florida.
@gillianboden6735
@gillianboden6735 Жыл бұрын
This is football. Premier league takes it away.
@franciscofranco42
@franciscofranco42 Жыл бұрын
Green Bay Packers are fan owned team.
@reeleyes466
@reeleyes466 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is like every single other club in the entirety of Britain, all with similar stories, of fans helping to keep clubs going. At the lower level it is NORMAL, clubs are kept running by volunteers ! It was like that in the old days of top football.
@IvanMorningstar
@IvanMorningstar Жыл бұрын
never once they mentioned themselves as the owner of the club . Wrexham are so lucky to have such a respectful pair as an owner.
@TheWelshSportsPodcast
@TheWelshSportsPodcast Жыл бұрын
Shows the class Rob and Ryan have to spend their time to speak on a fans podcast for nearly an hour. Amazing to see what they are doing for Wrexham and north Wales in general. The passion is clearly real and genuine
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE 3 ай бұрын
There are no owners right now with their stature that has been doing this with fans.
@messoussiahmed9910
@messoussiahmed9910 Жыл бұрын
I'm a french fan i love your story ! you r like Auerre a french litle town, the club win the french ligue 1 and the french cup after 20 years of promotion they played in champions league too I remember real madrid in Abbé des champs it was a precious gived to all the city and the community !!!
@terrypowell4249
@terrypowell4249 Жыл бұрын
How could we let a club with over 150 years of history die? Wrexham are back!!!!!
@peterveste6976
@peterveste6976 Жыл бұрын
as a everton fan i wish we had owners like Rob and Ryan, i have always looked out for Wrexham results since i painted the stand back in the 70s and spent a great time there i hope you get promotion again a proper family club ❤❤
@steverowe2758
@steverowe2758 Жыл бұрын
We love the whole journey Wrexham have been on in Brisbane, Australia. The power of sport to lift a community is inspiring and the goodwill towards Notts and other clubs in the league is a lesson to us all. Without quality opposition success means little. Go Wrexham!
@tompurvis1261
@tompurvis1261 Жыл бұрын
Not a football fan at all before watching the documentary. I am in love with the Wrexham story and enjoy watching the sport now. What an exciting final match for Notts.
@WildRoseCountryGirl
@WildRoseCountryGirl Жыл бұрын
I really like the way Rob hands himself. I was at work, so many complaints and Rob popped into my head. I handed myself like him and the problems just vanished. It was pretty amazing. I hope I can harness that more often.
@peterjohns9195
@peterjohns9195 Жыл бұрын
Love this comment. They have demonstrated excellent leadership not just by delegating well and empowering employees but by maintaining a positive attitude by always being respectful and understanding where people are coming from when speaking
@gofannon1943
@gofannon1943 Жыл бұрын
Strong agree. They seem like excellent managers, surprisingly.
@gol4695
@gol4695 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, you can't change your team in the Uk But you can have a second team & here we are With all the dirty money around The game needed these two
@kellydavidson3379
@kellydavidson3379 14 күн бұрын
Lovely interview. Congrats to Wrexham for their marvelous good fortune with these owners and their dedication to club and community.
@delboyd72
@delboyd72 Жыл бұрын
alot of fans unfortunately have no idea what decent owners are supposed to be like. for many years ive supported the town there have been too many owners and managers and players that simply dont care enoough to engage with the club, fans, disability, womens team. they have an infectious posative attitude and are so funny and genuine. its an honour to have such wonderful ppl own the club and be a part of the community.
@gerryriley915
@gerryriley915 Жыл бұрын
OMG... how good was that!! Awesome to hear Rob and Ryan speak so passionately and openly about their love and pride for everything Wrexham. And be humble enough to thank you guys for being the voice of the fans and holding them to account. Terrific stuff lads. Looking forward to getting my hands on Raising Dragons. ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@richardhughes3196
@richardhughes3196 Жыл бұрын
What a ride we're on! The jealousy of wrexham is only going to grow seeing more and more the unbelievable job these guys are doing and how genuine they are. Another fantastic pod FiD team, looking forward to the fanzine
@chrisb222
@chrisb222 Жыл бұрын
there is nowt to be jealous of - everything you guys did was earned and deserved - you have 2 owners that love you - who can say that in football
@chrisdalton293
@chrisdalton293 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, gentlemen! Loved hearing Rob say that one of his favorite fan interactions was being able to connect with guys like Tim in the crowd during the parade. Like you guys said, they really are men of the people.
@redabroad
@redabroad Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, so proud to be a Wrexham fan and we are lucky to have them
@gaz4
@gaz4 Жыл бұрын
Quality interview here, and respect to Wrexham FC’s class co-chairmen who are coming together well with a great club of players and club staff 🏅
@PamelaRWKandt
@PamelaRWKandt Жыл бұрын
BE STILL MY HEART! What a terrific, conversational interview. R&R are genuine, generous & transparent. Good job on the two exclusives! Interesting how they both talk about Wrexham as a lifetime venture. I hope other "celebrity" folks with money see what they've accomplished & try to duplicate that community elsewhere with Clubs. Nice to hear Rob is a faithful listener of your fancast. (I was also relieved to hear he made sure the lads were sunscreened in Vegas. I saw all of the shirtless photos & feared for their skin!) Again, great job guys. You done good!
@mazlee4183
@mazlee4183 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview and opportunity for you all, true fact my great grampy used to be the ' grounds keeper' he'd take his sheep to maintain the grass on the pitch and have a few pints in the turf, everyone would come out the pub to watch him and his sheep dog round them all up after, still have his whistle 👍
@jfktoffee1878
@jfktoffee1878 Жыл бұрын
From a Toffee to a Taffy, jealous Evertonian here, if you'd only change that strip to blue...good luck, we'll probably see you all soon in one of the leagues...Champ, L1 or L2!!!
@mpblolly
@mpblolly Жыл бұрын
Best thing I took from this is that Rob may well be living in Wales one day in the not so distant future.....I love that. Truly Fearless in Devotion
@tonychallinor6721
@tonychallinor6721 Жыл бұрын
Born and brought up in Wrexham - season ticket in the late 70s. Loved this vid but when Rob said Wrexham was beautiful - I immediately sent to all my local family with a smiley face
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE 3 ай бұрын
WOW LATE 70s what a fan.
@j1nn88
@j1nn88 Жыл бұрын
So glad I came across this interview! Very good questions and nothing negative which is refreshing. (Wrexham fan in New Zealand)
@viewsfromtheyale611
@viewsfromtheyale611 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. It's wonderful to see them take the time to come onto the podcast. Keep up the good work 😀
@pepeborrego8006
@pepeborrego8006 Жыл бұрын
Wrexham fan here from Havana,Cuba!!!
@roggleif
@roggleif Жыл бұрын
And we have the glazers, deserved to wrexham to gets such great owners :) nothing like passion to drive a business to success.
@gwkdad
@gwkdad Жыл бұрын
As a guy from s.w. mich and a high-school that didn't even have a soccer team in the early 70's, why have I totally bought into following this whole story? Great stuff, and eye opening how Rob and Ryan seem like genuinely nice people.
@popculturista
@popculturista 10 ай бұрын
From sw mich too and agree with everything that he said.
@davidlasoff8261
@davidlasoff8261 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great that! You guys are boss and the owners get it.
@stephenhumphris6962
@stephenhumphris6962 Жыл бұрын
Great club great fans ,great owners even better pod cast well done fellas liverpool fan who now follows your fantastic club long may your success continue hope you playing us sooner than later
@gavinthegoliath
@gavinthegoliath Жыл бұрын
Ryans had such a crush on Ben foster since he signed. I love it.
@NorCalPhil
@NorCalPhil Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview guys! You can really hear the passion and love that Ron and Ryan have for not only the club, but for Wrexham as well. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@jjones7535
@jjones7535 Жыл бұрын
Fellas this is absolutely class.. proper original and honest content! Absolutely love Rob and Ryan ❤
@piklezy6818
@piklezy6818 Жыл бұрын
Great as ever Chaps with a couple of cherries on top 👍
@canadianred1970
@canadianred1970 Жыл бұрын
Great job guys. Congrats on snagging this interview.
@GyikaCPFC
@GyikaCPFC Жыл бұрын
Exciting time to be a Wrexham fan! I expect you to get instantly promoted from league 2. However, League 1 - That won't be so easy. Best of luck though.
@ronsumfun5156
@ronsumfun5156 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant podcast loved it.
@SurrealScotsman
@SurrealScotsman Жыл бұрын
Just for a second try to imagine the Glazers or the Fenway Sports Group doing this with their fans channels!
@sandydshipley
@sandydshipley Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview… and Ryan you are so right… that’s all I will say 🤣❤️🇨🇦
@nonamesoloist
@nonamesoloist Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to catch Sunny in its very first season a million years ago and I have to be honest: I had no fucking clue how to say Rob’s last name until Welcome to Wrexham.
@jeffbroemmel8003
@jeffbroemmel8003 Жыл бұрын
Great interview guys!
@LOSTshowfan
@LOSTshowfan Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thanks.
@gavinthegoliath
@gavinthegoliath Жыл бұрын
Im a man utd fan How i wish my club was affordbale for two owners such as these
@murphp35
@murphp35 Жыл бұрын
two legends!
@abeining
@abeining Жыл бұрын
Great interview! Thanks
@CriticallyAcclaimed
@CriticallyAcclaimed Жыл бұрын
A literal billion dollars took 30 min out of their calendar, and I bet if you ask them, they would say that went perfectly! Remember to clips this yourself, guys, I saw at least 6 moments you need on shorts!!!
@chrisb222
@chrisb222 Жыл бұрын
I can promise you, never have these 2 opened up like this - not only is it a superb footy owner interview it is also a superb look into who Rob and Ryan are - sigh I wish I supported Wrexham but here we are, live and die QPR - come on u superhoops - sigh
@martinhopley
@martinhopley Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview, gentlemen and it's good to see you Welsh men are as good looking at the American/Canadian stars!🤣 Can't see anything like this happening with my favourite team (Liverpool FC) so very happy to put Wrexham AFC as my second footy team to follow (and I've had to start following Notts County after their run)
@timhughes1265
@timhughes1265 Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant,well done lads
@mikedodd1653
@mikedodd1653 Жыл бұрын
Last couple of pod casts are top drawer fellas . Looking for bands ? Manchester orchestra at the racecourse would be my personal dream.
@bluesmachine1006
@bluesmachine1006 Жыл бұрын
That story about Ryan buying a house was started by the manager of the red lion, trying to drum up business 😂
@berthakirby4734
@berthakirby4734 Жыл бұрын
Love U guys 😃
@wixstace85
@wixstace85 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous… enjoyed that
@vancityraynolds1
@vancityraynolds1 Жыл бұрын
Hello thank you for all your likes and comments on my official page, this is my private account where i wish to reach out to my true fans out there, I have more than 300,0000 messages on my official account , I pick you to say thanks to you 🙏😍 best stay safe, thanks for your support for me cares.
@vulcaninsights
@vulcaninsights Жыл бұрын
Brilliant live chat gents - Goes to show that 1000's of subs aren't required for Rob and Ryan to appear on your show - Your co-chairs are top notch blokes!!.... Furthermore, the level of maturity in guiding the conversation was what kept me watching till the end... 🖖 So anyways you've now earned a new sub, a fella from New Zealand - I'm from Canterbury Crusader Rugby territory so converting me to look out for the latest goss with all things pertaining to Wrexham - Football/Community - is outrageous!!! 🤣😂 Keep up the great work team!!
@anthonydavies5575
@anthonydavies5575 Жыл бұрын
Great pod keep up the good work
@dominiquecampbellzero
@dominiquecampbellzero Жыл бұрын
Rob is a real one.
@vancityraynolds1
@vancityraynolds1 Жыл бұрын
Hello thank you for all your likes and comments on my official page, this is my private account where i wish to reach out to my true fans out there, I have more than 300,0000 messages on my official account , I pick you to say thanks to you 🙏😍 best stay safe, thanks for your support for me cares.
@davidmiddleton6479
@davidmiddleton6479 Жыл бұрын
Rob is all in. Not saying Ryan isn’t but Rob would leave everything for his football club. Wrexham has been blessed.
@rawpotatofella9654
@rawpotatofella9654 Жыл бұрын
Rob has done OUTSTANDING stewardship for the club. And Ryan is also fully in as well, supporting things at the grassroots level.
@jordannietos
@jordannietos 2 ай бұрын
Rob is the passion, Ryan is the one who gets the word around to make sure they stay marketable
@dominiquecampbellzero
@dominiquecampbellzero Жыл бұрын
I hadn't yet seen this mocumentary series. Must say, it has alot going on.
@porridgeable
@porridgeable Жыл бұрын
Other Chairmen and owners can learn a lot from Rob and Ryan.
@warrenbarton402
@warrenbarton402 Жыл бұрын
😅best football club owners
@kentalbertawrex
@kentalbertawrex Жыл бұрын
How did this come about? did you approach them or vice versa?
@MissSnowFire
@MissSnowFire Жыл бұрын
I thought they would have kept the Assie GK. We are going to need a great healthy GK.
@JoeBrewing
@JoeBrewing Жыл бұрын
Great interview! How long do you think it’ll be before R&R try to recruit Gravity and the Sun.
@gavinthegoliath
@gavinthegoliath Жыл бұрын
Robs a proper chairman.
@MissSnowFire
@MissSnowFire Жыл бұрын
Mullin has great abs
@mjg2008121
@mjg2008121 Жыл бұрын
I trust them to stick with the club good times and bad
@jasonankers4318
@jasonankers4318 Жыл бұрын
Big ship spinning wheel of a planet ❤
@sharky6128
@sharky6128 Жыл бұрын
JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ARE ROB AND RYAN DOING FOR THE WOMENS CHAMPS ??? CANT WAIT TO SEE WREXHAM PLAY IN PERSON THIS SEPT 2023 !!! NOW WE JUST NEED TO GET TICKETS 🤩❤🏆 KEVIN FROM CANADA !!!
@nikolajf
@nikolajf Жыл бұрын
Great questions 👍🏻
@nicolebacon3230
@nicolebacon3230 Жыл бұрын
Rob you are looking very thin, please take care of yourself, and i'm hoping your not sick, hoping you get well soon if you are
@garyfrancis1262
@garyfrancis1262 Жыл бұрын
These two obviously have no idea how to run a football team. The fans love them. They are humble, intelligent and they listen. Come on, this love story is just not football.
@chetcoyote89
@chetcoyote89 Жыл бұрын
I think I can guarantee ben to sign with us if you get him in the new dead pool movie
@Kimdk87
@Kimdk87 6 ай бұрын
Still a great interview to watch. But ditch the typical "hollywood talk show" questions. "Weirdest fan encounter" and stuff like that
@nicnaks123
@nicnaks123 Жыл бұрын
this is a great example of an interview that would be better without the camera so everyone chills a bit
@fearlessindevotion
@fearlessindevotion Жыл бұрын
Just listen to it on Spotify then ❤
@fingersfinesilver
@fingersfinesilver Жыл бұрын
Ollie Palmer shirtless - that's nothing to do with the camera. That's your wife :D
@akmthink5924
@akmthink5924 Жыл бұрын
18:00
@conquest201
@conquest201 Жыл бұрын
Will there be a 2nd season of Welcome to Wrexham?
@fearlessindevotion
@fearlessindevotion Жыл бұрын
Yes. Out later this year
@DeanneFoster-ns8zp
@DeanneFoster-ns8zp Жыл бұрын
11/10
@offkeychris
@offkeychris Жыл бұрын
Great interview and good people. But i am a little skeptical. Theyve done so well so far but watch other recent interviews and they both looked tired. There both busy people and it is hard getting asked the same questions over and over agian. The thing is theyve been so much in the public eye from the start looking like kids at Christmas time. With ryan cacking jokes constantly. This cant last forever. They talk the talk but when things dont go so smoothly the stress levels will rise.
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight Жыл бұрын
Wow. Robs totally gonna move there, huh?
@danieljamesmead
@danieljamesmead Жыл бұрын
24:15 that's called being a Scouser, Rob.
@ronch182
@ronch182 Жыл бұрын
For once Rob gets top billing in a title/headline 🤣
@sharky6128
@sharky6128 Жыл бұрын
BRING ED SHEEREN TO THE RACECOURSE !!!
@CryptikConstruct
@CryptikConstruct Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Ollie will stay.
@edotball
@edotball Жыл бұрын
i knew that house didnt look right for someone like him
@davidmason5163
@davidmason5163 Жыл бұрын
Catatonia
@ClihtYeastwood
@ClihtYeastwood Жыл бұрын
Ryan’s personality bores me, but ya.. great owners
@RobertMcGovernTarasis
@RobertMcGovernTarasis Жыл бұрын
I can believe Rob about not one day moving on, but Ryan has sold Aviation Gin & Mint Mobile… which makes me hesitant
@andrewgr144
@andrewgr144 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that's unreasonable. But, I would be shocked if he just sold his share to the highest offer-- if it ever happens, I genuinely think he'd only sell once he was sure he had found someone that would care for the team and the town as much as he once had.
@Red_Snappa
@Red_Snappa Жыл бұрын
He sold those two _purely_ because he wanted to have more time to commit to his main interest...WAFC 😋 Seriously tho... it's obvious these two have become really, really close friends, and to just walk away and hand over to his share to someone else, would go against the grain - without damned good reason - for someone like Ryan. Two of the most honest, sincere men... We are SO lucky to have them!
@bereasonable8018
@bereasonable8018 Жыл бұрын
I think Ryan will continue with Wrexham for quite a while, perhaps to varying degrees of active involvement. He’s clearly devoted to his family first and foremost. Wrexham is one investment that his whole family has gotten involved with. Blake does not drink alcohol, and he owned only 20% of Mint. He won’t commit to living anywhere without his family fully on board.
@jarent2652
@jarent2652 Жыл бұрын
He has sold them but continued to help promote them.
@franciscofranco42
@franciscofranco42 Жыл бұрын
The value is in Rob & Ryan being part of the product to promote it. Nobody is watching Wrexham football without R&R’s involvement. I could see them selling a 50% share in the club to some billionaire wanting to be part of the magic, but any deal without them on board is worthless.
@Chrisdelaney-ch4jx
@Chrisdelaney-ch4jx Жыл бұрын
first lol
@davidedwards3838
@davidedwards3838 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Ryan took his ball and went home because he could have exclusive bidding rights for the Ottawa Senators.
@brianeleighton
@brianeleighton Жыл бұрын
He did no such thing. He sold out of all of the businesses he didn't really have a passion for. He sold both Aviation Gin and Mint Mobile for almost a billion dollars to raise money to potentially purchase the Senators. He kept both Wrexham and his marketing agency.
@PaddyPower_IRL
@PaddyPower_IRL Жыл бұрын
586 subscribers… seriously. If you can get access to such to people at Wrexham you should take this seriously and up your game professionally.
@fezbob-xu7tc
@fezbob-xu7tc Жыл бұрын
My dear Francis, it's all about quality, not quantity.
@MatSjo
@MatSjo Жыл бұрын
How should they up their game? It is great that they can gain access, and the sound is really up to par for a podcast of this size. Having more production value can come as they gain more listeners and thus bigger sponsor deals etc.
@JG-ib7xk
@JG-ib7xk Жыл бұрын
Calm down Francis you bellend, what are you expecting them to buy subscribers?
@reeleyes466
@reeleyes466 Жыл бұрын
Going to Las Vegas is a sort of superficial choice but it is part of the whole thing there, so it will be interesting what fans will accept to move forward. Some might say Las Vegas is a degenerate place. TikTok already, will be viewed as a very questionable sponsorship deal - but other than that, it is nice for Wrexham fans to be going up - the mantra of "we want to go to the PL" I wonder in the end how much pressure and expectation that produces and when and IF Wrexham are in League One or the Championship and are no longer a 'big club' but a small club, one of many, say maybe 3-0 down at half time on a December Tuesday night to a Bolton or a Sunderland. How many tourist fans will be interested in that scenario ? There are many clubs who have tried to go up the leagues, many have proved it is not always about money also. Luton Town are now the verge of the PL, or the top Division, for the first time in THIRTY YEARS -they were a National League side only ten years ago. They have done that with no real big investment and even this season, lost their manager to Southampton ( who got relegated ! ) and had to have Rob Edwards be manager as backroom coaching staff member. Leyton Orient just went up with no money after nearly going bust, Plymouth, sort of similar, no massive investment. Good to take some reality checks at some time. Though, good luck next season ! Also, look at clubs like Dulwich Hamlet and others, who do things in a different way, who want to be ethical and do creative and innovative things, Vegas is not that. Gambling addiction is a serious issue, one would have thought that is the last association that Wrexham needs ? Clubs have their own identity, some choose to take money from McDonalds, others would refuse that wholeheartedly - some get involved in mental health charities. Not long ago, Norwich had a botched miscalculation by the commercial manager, in getting a betting company as sponsors, fans protested and complained, they had to cancel the sponsorship. The commercial manager resigned.
@fearlessindevotion
@fearlessindevotion Жыл бұрын
There has been no mention or evidence of gambling by the squad. They took the opportunity for an all expenses paid trip - whatever and wherever it was they would have carried the club's name and reputation and ensured it did not become tarnished. You only have to look at who sponsors the league we're now in to get an idea of gambling culture in the UK. I'm not entirely sure of the many points you were trying to make but thanks for taking the time to comment anyway. Wrexham have had it harder than many in the past, so please don't begrudge us the time in the sun.
@callum1709
@callum1709 Жыл бұрын
What an absolute helmet you are
@brianeleighton
@brianeleighton Жыл бұрын
First, Wrexham went to Vegas because that is where the players said they wanted to go at the start of the season. The team wanted an all expense paid trip to Vegas, which the club was good enough to promise them if they won the league. Second the rest of what you said about gambling addiction, while serious, is being somewhat disingenuous. You clearly have a bit of an issue with a club getting outside investment to help their success. Seeing as you used a bunch of examples of clubs having success without that. Here is the problem with them. None of them are comparable to Wrexham. Those clubs didn't have owners who were actively trying to destroy the club to tear down the ground in order to develop the land. Wrexham did. How about instead of being jealous of their good fortune we revel in that they actually have good owners from America? I know Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea supporters wish their American owners would learn a thing or two from them.
@reeleyes466
@reeleyes466 Жыл бұрын
@@brianeleighton Hi Brian, thanks for the intelligent and reasoned reply ! A rarity ! I do not have an issue with Wrexham doing what they need to do - BUT I do think that things like sponsorship, the rampant corporatising over the lasts 15 / 20 years, have seen owners, sponsors, totally disconnected from the club. Of course in reality, it is a global world, so nothing wrong in that. Ideally, I think many clubs like to see a local sponsor where possible, if not for the shirt, for a stand, if not for a stand, then for a matchball or programme and so on. All the local characters in local business and so on is all part of a clubs makeup I think. Tiktok and North Wales are like Pluto and Jupiter to eachother I think. I am not at all being disingenuous about the gambling and alcohol addiction issues and I think it is a deadly serious issue that many clubs try ( with what little resources they have ) to engage with issues such as this. I was at a Southern League club the other day, who average maybe 500 in a game and they have some kind of co-operation with a local mental health charity, for example. It's also, ok to to go and see Las Vegas - if you are curious, like Americans see Big Ben - but it could have been say, Death Valley, Yosemite National Park and so on, a trip to native lands, ( for example ). Not saying that SHOULD be done but there are other things going on.
@reeleyes466
@reeleyes466 Жыл бұрын
@@brianeleighton Plenty of clubs have had incompetent, careless or even criminal owners. I can talk about Robert Chase at Norwich. On the one hand, a local and someone who did tons for the club and was massive forwarding thinking, bought up tons of land around the ground and also farmland which is now the training ground. He was utterly shrewd in laying the foundations for a top club in terms of infrastructure, facilities. However, he was very much a 'smooth operator', or basically, lied once too many times ! Sold players from the European era, weeks after he said he would not, the most famous of that being Chris Sutton, with whom he held a press conference saying: "he is not for sale" and a week later he as at Blackburn ! -Ok, he did sell players that helped break apart a great team and the club never really have hit those heights of the late 80s 90s. There was big trouble at Carrow Road after games that has never been seen before or since, as the fans felt cheated by his lies. He died a few weeks ago and is remembered as someone who did a lot to to modernise the club and move it forward ( at the expense of success on the field though ). Now that is hardly as bad as some of course but just saying ! Clubs go through hard times.
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