Excuse me WHAT??

[@GerhardTreibheit]

now you know how 100 rated player feels when they get hit with normal en passant. "what just happened??????"

[@anabellepowell1234]

FIRST REPLY

[@torvus249]

The absolutely tunnel vision on that second opponent.

[@4dtoaster819]

Revelling his drawback helped him

[@sauerkrautlanguage]

For those who don't get it, the site allows you to castle your king even though the opponent can en passant, because there's a chance that the drawback of the opponent actually disallows them from taking the king

[@RoundShades]

Yeah, I knew it the moment simp did it. I was like, yikes bro, you are about to learn the true power of en passant 😂

[@konuralpyldzkan1495]

still a stupid rule though

[@danielhoang289]

I read the rule before, but was still surprised because en passant only applies to the in-between square, not the starting square. So I thought when King castled from e8 to c8, en passant was only available on d8, not e8

[@kaksspl]

​@@konuralpyldzkan1495 No, it's genius. This way checkmates are still effectively checkmates, but if the drawback prevents you from ending the game, it doesn't reveal it to the opponent.

[@theodoremurdock9984]

@@konuralpyldzkan1495 I think it's great, the "you can't castle out of check or through check" rule of traditional chess going away feels sort of wrong...but because the opponent's restriction could prevent them from taking your king you're allowed to leave your king in danger (unlike normal chess where you can't end your turn with your king in check)...so it interprets that rule as being there "because your king could be taken if you try to castle out of danger or through danger", and allows your king to be taken "en passant" when you leave your king in danger by castling out of check or by castling through check.

[@makotohanazawa6560]

in a previous vid someone already mentioned the king can get en passant. he just didnt see the comment

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

Here I am

[@whosilence]

In last video even!

[@oussama7132]

he read a comment about it once but didn't believe it

[@RoundShades]

I think I mentioned it. So maybe it was a lot of people. Either way, you most certainly can get en passant. You just can't in duck chess unless you are playing over the board and agree to it lol

[@danielhoang289]

I knew King can get en passanted, but I didn't know that included the original square. The King moved from e8 to c8, so I thought the only en passant square was d8. Yet the capture happened on e8 in the video.

[@np8139]

Amazing. The second game became 100 times easier by revealing your drawback. That opponent is probably still kicking himself over that game.

[@MisterBrick42]

oh god just looked up about taking the king en passant. yeah so you can castle through check, but also en passant king capture.

[@aralornwolf3140]

I thought En Passant is a _Pawn_ move. Allowing any other piece to use it... nuts. Would just make it easier to say "you can't castle during, or through, check" like in regular chess so it doesn't mess people up like that.

[@BananaWasTaken]

He’s been warned about it before.

[@jaywu1951]

@@BananaWasTaken to be fair, I expected en passant to be when king moves THROUGH check while castling, not when he does castle while under check.

[@API-Beast]

That still makes no sense, you can't en passant the square the piece started from, only the square it moved through.

[@ninjatom9]

So, if your opponent knows how it works, you shouldn't castle through check. Weird rule but I guess it works?

[@Nerd_Detective]

Game 2 opponent's knight: I AM INVINCIBLE! The king: That's great, but I'm not!

[@name2865-n2y]

3:55 you can actually see the red dot just as he moves his piece, meaning his king is still in danger

[@eymentunayildiz]

For those who don't understand, for example when you move your pawn 2 times in the same move, it happens like it first moves one square, then moves another square in the next move. Your opponents pawn can capture your pawn midway, also called as en passant. In castles, something similar happen, first the rook aproaches the king, and the king goes in the rook(gate) and out in the next move. And theoretically your opponent can take your king midway, which could also be called en passant. Therefore if you are in check you can't castle, and in Drawback check your opponent can take your king en passant.

[@gianlucatartaro1335]

Simp freaking out about king en passant sounded exactly like a 500 rated player learning about regular en passant for the first time 😂

[@paladin2726]

Your opponent took your king e n p a s s a n t

[@thatmspaintgirl]

3:54 "Your Castle can't save you, because *I CAN'T READ!"*

[@himothaniel]

The last drawback you got was actually kind of great. It's one of the few drawbacks that you can take steps to reduce the impact of, since you can move early to negate the effect.

[@SuperCaitball]

I think the reason king en passant happens is tied to the whole idea that you can't normally castle when in check.

[@GAMEIO-wc4zi]

Every time you reveal the challenge, I already expect the worst to happen lmao

[@Emperor_Mello]

guess the king en passant kinda makes sense

[@SupersonicII]

The fact that you can't castle through checked tiles in ordinary chess pretty much demands that it work this way.

[@Owen_loves_Butters]

This is why you read the rules

[@danielhoang289]

Meanwhile I did read the rules, but I thought that only applied to the middle square. King went from e8 to c8, so I thought en passant can only happen on the d8 square. Kind of like how when pawn goes from e7 to e5, you can't capture en passant on e7, but only on e6

[@Waffles17643]

@@danielhoang289eerrrm if you read the rules you would know it says both🤓

[@danielhoang289]

@@Waffles17643 Never said I was a good reader. Just that I did read the rules. Clearly I read it poorly

[@TheYeetedMeat]

I cannot believe you have the audacity to have the Israel flag in your profile picture.

[@Owen_loves_Butters]

@@TheYeetedMeat I don't know how that's relevant to a chess video

[@sparkyshore3543]

8:40 Worse than that, your opponent could play Bxf7 and you instantly lose.

[@umuhyacinth6144]

That rook on f8: 👁 👄 👁

[@sparkyshore3543]

@@umuhyacinth6144 what’s your point? If rook takes Simp loses via his drawback.

[@MrDetectiv-uw8vc]

after Kg2 Kg8 you shouldnt play bxf7 because you lose your king first.

[@sparkyshore3543]

@@MrDetectiv-uw8vc you play Bxf7 after Simp's queen move, because Simp then has to move his king and can only move it into check.

[@MrDetectiv-uw8vc]

@@sparkyshore3543oh that? Now I see

[@anabellepowell1234]

4:10 This is REAL

[@suhradpatel2322]

In drawback chess, if a king castles out of or through check, the opponent may immediately move a piece to either square to win the game

[@9600bauds]

what about the squares in-between? the whole point of en passant is to capture "along the way"

[@donovanj0623]

4:06 *black king dies of heart attack*

[@chrisleong5190]

Moving to f8 on move 13 is actually way harder

[@silvinity4939]

Yeah, it read like if the opponent failed that they would have instantly lost.

[@dinohall2595]

4:04 "Absolutely very convenient." *23 seconds later, in regards to the same situation* "Very inconvenient."

[@lucapri]

some info: *The king can get captured en passant if you castle in check. If you castle in check, the opponent can win by moving the piece that was giving check. The game treats it as if the king hasn't moved.* i dont know if this is correct for castling thru check

[@zainsarfraz7210]

Also true for castling through check you can read the rule on the website

[@danielhoang289]

I'm the opposite. I knew King can be captured for en passant if castling thru check. But I didn't know about castling while already in check. Since en passant normally refers to the "through" square, not the original square

[@Flechashe]

It's not like they let you castle through checks and such to change the rules of the game, it is so that those mechanics are also affected by the drawbacks. It makes complete sense that he can en passant your king, when you castle through a check you're basically assuming that he has a drawback that prevents him from making the move. By the way, this also happens when the attacker moves to one of the squares between the king and the rook. You can for example take the rook and the just-castled king in one move.

[@pin-bfdia-y1b]

En passant check mate:

[@LetsPlayCrazy]

I had the same thing happen with me castling through check. I was very confused... but it makes sense... Just because you are physicially allowed to doesn't mean he can't still capture (you can also move into checks, which is normally impossible, so...)

[@sepruecom]

9:12 "I lost 25% of movement freedom" - how that? If you have to move something specific every 5 moves, you lose 20% movement freedom...

[@takingitupto12next]

Bro u have a point...

[@MrJSyer]

This drawback thing just reminded me of a movie called "Red Belt". In that movie, there's a jiu jitsu tournament in which some drawbacks are assorted to the fighters, like fighting blindfolded or without using a hand.

[@codetaku]

"en passant" is technically not the phrase they should've used, but it does make sense. Normally you can't castle out of or through check. Since drawback chess allows you to castle out of check (because the rule is to take a king, not to checkmate a king, since checkmates are too nebulous when drawbacks are unknown), doing so opens you up to your king being taken, whether it moved out of or through check.

[@tdubmorris5757]

I think the en passant is similar to how a normal one works where it prevents you from using a special move to escape a situation. Double move to create a passed pawn, but also now a castle to escape a check can be en passant. Weird how they dont tell you about it anywhere though

[@Traidmarck]

ChatGPT ahh checkmate

[@TheIndgredients]

I learnt about drawback chess because of you, thanks for teaching me

[@James--Parker]

Dude fell for a scholar's mate 😮

[@joshuahudson2170]

The castle rules exist in this game; if you castle and your opponent could have prevented it, his moving the piece to the affected square results in your loss.

[@CiaranMaxwell]

You cannot castle into check, out of check, or pass over a space where your king would be in check. You castled out of check, so since the site requires king capture to win, your opponent was able to capture.

[@Im_so_so_so_so_cool]

No your king just got a heart attack

[@DJ4x]

Holy crap, it's not clickbait, they actually French Move'd your king. That's hilarious, this and Duck Chess are so much better than regular chess.

[@jarrakul]

Yeah so you're allowed to castle under check, but only in the same way you're allowed to ignore a check.

[@werd3426]

That first game, you can indeed move through check, just like you can move into one, but it doesn't guarantee safety

[@GoldManila]

I think I remember someone else explaining how en passanting the King is possible, but I don't really remember

[@invenblocker]

Basically, since the opponent's drawback means you might not actually be castling through or out of check, the game allows you to do so. But if the drawback doesn't prevent said check, the opponent is then allowed to move to the square the king castled from or through to punish what turned out to be an illegal move.

[@joshuaspector8182]

That first opponent, that wasn’t a drawback 😂

[@pncka]

En passant is when a pawn moved twice, but is captured as if it moved once. It doesn't make sense that castling out of check would work like that, although castling through check would. Work.

[@OurCognitiveSurplus]

I didn’t understand the French move with the king

[@peterhuston7888]

In drawback chess, you have to capture the king to win, because it's possible that a checkmate is not really a checkmate when your drawback prevents you from actually taking the king. So, you are also allowed to move into check, gambling that maybe it's not really a check because your opponent can't take your king due to their drawback - but if they can and do, then you lose. Similarly, you're allowed to try to castle through check, gambling that it's not really castling through check because your opponent can't actually move to whatever square prevents castling due to their drawback. But if the opponent does move to that square, then you just lose.

[@OurCognitiveSurplus]

@@peterhuston7888 thank you!

[@SupersonicII]

In ordinary chess you can't make a move that leads to the king getting captured. You also can't castle through checked tiles. Therefore, castling through checked tiles leads to the king getting captured.

[@Rainbro359]

Stir crazy used to be even worse. You had to move the King at least every third move.

[@lmabacus404]

On the other hand, needing to move it every five moves sounds too easy. Even revealing it is barely an inconvenience, because you can choose when to move it.

[@depotheose7890]

Its kind of weird to me that the en passant king capture takes on the square the king was imstead of the square the king moves through like with a standard pawn en passant

[@hasl3r775]

well regularly you wouldn't be able to castle out of check, I assume all those squares are fair game

[@user-zj9rr6yc4u]

I assume the intention is basically "I think your drawback prevents punishing this unsafe castle" - "nope you are dead"/"yeah it does" Basically a mechanic of calling a bluff because with challenges not every threat is real

[@miragelee9754]

4:05 bro got railgun’d

[@theneoreformationist]

Despite it seeming like a weird rule, king en passant is probably there to make the game more like regular chess, despite checks not blocking a king's movement. Just like how a king can be taken if he enters check, a king can be taken if he castles through check, both of which are impossible in normal chess.

[@Me1le]

Took me a sec to understand the en passant.

[@theominouspigeon]

chess, but actually 2D bishops and queens cant move diagonally in between pieces, and knights can't jump over pieces

[@dipperjc]

He only takes video suggestions on Discord.

[@GummieI]

"knights can't jump over pieces", doesn't really make sense on it's own, as there is not really a clearly defined path the knight takes for it's move. Rather there are 3 different "paths" a knight can take to do their moves (and that is without any diagonal movement, if you include that you get 5 different paths even), assuming I am not missing any, which is entirely possible. And that is ofc only considering direct routes... if you even go outside that the amount baloons to insane proportions. SO yeah you would have to define first how the a knight is moving exactly

[@total_dk6517]

​@@GummieI A question that has stumped even the greatest minds in chess. "How does the knight move?"

[@lerarosalene]

​@@GummieIone could use Chinese knight rules: one vertically/horizontally, then 1 diagonally.

[@theominouspigeon]

​@@GummieI ill leave that to chess simp

[@QuirkyView]

So the king *can* castle while checked, the same way you can make a move that leaves/puts you in check lmao

[@Donald_the_Potholer]

Spoilers: After review, Simp was just being a fool and paid the price. But the fact that Castling was legal at 3:53, albeit subject to _en passant_ , meant that the following sequence was _also_ legal at that point: Kd8 Qe8+ Qxe8+. Whether the chess engines will let a player start in check, I don't know. So, there is no IBTMY today.

[@warmike]

Not reading the rules in the first episode doesn't seem like a good idea anymore, does it?

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

4:18 Told ya :)

[@RelatefulDBL]

4:07 Your king moved 2 squares to castle and since the queen was there the queen came and took the king en passant

[@TheJysN]

Maybe you should read the rules. If you castle out of a check you can still take the king, as you have seen... This is also true is you castle through an attack.

[@tochoXK3]

If you castle through check, opponent can capture the King en passant

[@NonoTRC1]

funnily enough there was actually a comment i saw on one of your last videos about that en passant

[@CristichiEX]

Holy hell!

[@jitenderdogra]

Challenge: u can only move your non pawn pieces when u have an even number of pawns.

[@haleysettembre]

How was that en passant?

[@dd0buzzacc989]

According to Google, "The rules of Drawback Chess specifically mention this: "If your king castles out of or through check, then on your opponent's next move, it can be captured by playing any move to the square it left or moved through (i.e. its home square and where the rook lands)." (Reddit)

[@That_One_Kobold]

​@@dd0buzzacc989yep, this happened to me too, and it's a stupid rule

[@paching]

You're allowed to take a king who just castled through check, and Drawback chess calls it 'en passant' for the memes

[@mikeysheep5380]

@@That_One_Kobold You can't castle out of check in normal, so this exists here.

[@samoilis2276]

​@@That_One_KoboldDon't blame it on drawback chess, blame it on chess rules.

[@Alessandro-qi2pf]

chess, but your Queen is very old fashioned and can move only with the ancient rules (diagonally, only one square at time). (also, your pawns can only move one square at a time)

[@a-bombmori7393]

"Your opponent took your king en passant" This is Green Lemon Game's fault, isn't it?

[@dd0buzzacc989]

I came on here 30 seconds after Simp posted :D

[@andreypopov3400]

En passant king taken by queen?! WTF

[@TheL1meSt1ck-46]

apparently en passant exists for every piece

[@jacobmerrill693]

I think that king french move is still broken. When you do it with pawns you take the square the pawn skipped not where it started

[@DaniilPetrakov]

drawback chess, but dont reveal the drawback, instead choose a normal discord challenge that adds to drawback

[@zalibecquerel3463]

WHAT the HELL was EVEN THAT?!?!

[@YourFunkiness]

Ah, yes, the traditional Shnauzzerain en passant with queen. An underutilized technique, but effective in the right circumstances. I'm surprised Simp didn't see it coming.

[@coorbin]

This is my favorite Simp format by far! More!

[@SoulYard7]

From the website's how to play: "Kings may be captured en passant. If your king castles out of or through check, then on your opponent's next move, it can be captured by playing any move to the square it left or moved through (i.e. its home square and where the rook lands)." Maybe next time read the rules dummy

[@Hahatomato]

4:12 Holy hell

[@Murlokck]

You're late, I had to watch scientific things during lunch bcs of you >:(

[@thesouthernist8174]

😂

[@IsleyNumber1]

Truly these are the worst lunch break for us English people

[@char1194]

Holy shit que en passant just dropped

[@nowar1620]

I wonder what if your drawback makes you lose the game in some conditions, but you capture the king in the moment you should lose, what it would be then? Win? Lose? Draw?

[@shamilmadatov8832]

what advantage does revealing drawback to opponent give?

[@JrTroopa]

It makes for a better video

[@aksupaksu6967]

Well in the case of that second game, the opponent tunnel visioned hard after he learned his knights were invincible, costing him the game.

[@thedeck-buildingdemon8293]

Google king passant

[@Cosinegl]

Holy monarchy!

[@toxdaz]

I DID IT IN MY FIRST GAME OF DRAWBACK SOMEHOW AND I WAS SO CONFUSED

[@na4543]

Google en passant

[@BradTheThird]

So I take it that the en passant thing is just some spaghetti code and isn't actually possible irl?

[@11clocky]

In normal chess, you cannot castle through, into, or while in check. Since checks don’t really exist in drawback chess, king en passant was introduced as an alternative.

[@azariahking8136]

1300 rated drawback chess: 66% win rate.

[@joshuamoyer3327]

Bro, we literally commented to warn you about losing your king en passant.

[@white_145]

"Well, you see, due to the game variant specification, main objective is to 'take the king', and not 'give checkmate'. This effectively allows ignoring checks and, subsequently, castling through one." 🤓👆 "Your opponent took your king en-passant" 😨

[@adampoultney8737]

Holy hell

[@MazenHamdy76]

8:34 IS THAT A JOJO REFRERNCE?????????????

[@NoomStuff]

Video 198 of asking simp to play fps chess

[@Dirdle]

I have been saying it should work this way

[@mikkelcornelius6948]

Should have googled it

[@studgerbil9081]

Can't blame Simp for pandering to the new viewers. It's how a channel grows.

[@wilh3lmmusic]

Wouldn't taking the king en passant be on D8 not E8

[@Penguin4096-si9fz]

POV there was a red circle 🔴 oh c8, me thinks he gonna play Kd8, and there is literally a - notation (O-O-O-) and bro calls it black magic. It's just like how you cannot castle out of check.

[@waldoman7]

If i ever knowingly played chess simp I'd be terrified by me "I played drawback chess professionally before it existed" Of course I'm not 100 rated so with invincible knights I'll just, not get scholars mated...

[@nefer-trebeledfomp-4129]

What no. You can't invoke en passant on a queen against castling!

[@3345dbshockwave]

Is it me or 7:15 has a messy beat

[@Waffles17643]

Damn if only the rules were read

[@cathsaigh2197]

Taking the king en passant makes sense in some ways but it's not entirely equivalent. With pawns you can take en passant only with other pawns and not by moving to the square the pawn started in. The second point could be negated if the king was considered to move after the rook, but with the computer chess UI that would be false, since you castle by moving the king which should mean it's moved first.

[@hoveringgoat8061]

yeah this is why It doesnt make sense to me. But we can assume its just a visual thing. and the rook will move first. seems more balanced.

[@HazmanFTW]

How is that even an en passant capture?

[@takingitupto12next]

its because u castled in check

[@enochofmi]

How do you get losing 25% of movement freedom? If you have to move your king every 5 moves, isn't that 20%?