Bomber vs Ryft Round 1!

[@BhutJolokias]

I bought a Yeti years ago. Modded it, but it still never lived up to my expectations. Picked up a Ryft two weeks ago, then cobbled together a sway bar from a Wraith sway bar kit. It's everything I thought the Yeti would be. It's a blast, love it.

[@68rockcrawler]

This is going to be a good series! Thanks for doing the comparison. Love my Bomber!

[@gonncalomariamonteiro4176]

Nursing a rock bouncer is kinda incongruous. And if everytime you go out, you are worried about those axles, well, it beats its purpose. We had this same exact conversation some months ago, about brands "skipping" some R&D and present flawed products. Lasernut (or turd) came to mind as soon as the RYFT reviews began, and people started popping axles on their first outings. User error or product underdevelopement is of course debatable. But when a new product promises to do one thing and does not meet the expectations, or, as in this case, or Lasernut for that matter, you have to be careful about not break stuff...or the only way to get it to perform as it should is going the aftermarket road, trial and error with different combinations of electronics, hardware, countless hours researching forums, experimenting new ideas, to correct inherent problems to a specific product, makes me wonder why this or that was not properly engineered from sketch one. We can all argue that tinkering, modding, experiment is what RC is all about, and yes it is. But improving, upgrading is one thing...correcting is another. Don't take me for a hater, or a naysayer. Flawed products just make me feel ripped of. Granted RYFT is not a failure, far from it...but when I watch guys like you, who know so much about what RC is all about, having to tone down, be careful and speak about "must have" improvements (not upgrades)...that kind of tells you something, doesn't it? Room for improvement is not what a new product should be labeled as.

[@ExocagedRC]

The Ryft has quite a few must have improvements that’s for sure. If they would have shipped with better axle housings and a good rear Swaybar it would have been a much better launch. The diff gear material is also barely adequate, that’s why those are getting messed up. Yeah the axles are the LAST place to skimp on quality yet they do that over and over again.

[@koenoder4323]

If I'm going to be paying $500 for an RTR, and know that I'll need to throw another 300 into it just for it not to break, It's not very appealing. At least the bomber can't go fast enough in RTR form to break XD

[@vector292]

For me its even worse because so many of these aftermarket companies don't even have a proper website, ebay, amazon store and aren't carried by major hobbyshops. So your stuck scouring a facebook page hoping to see a new batch of the part you need get posted.

[@ryancipriani5757]

I have been building my own RCs for a while. The AX10 axles made it easy. I started with AX10, but quickly found solid axles break too easily. Since then I've been using aftermarket metal housings. I've had one for the last 12 years and those axles are still going strong. It's tougher on the wheels and axle stubs since they have to deal with more unsprung weight. Last car I built, I just bought some cheap fully assembled metal axles off ebay. I replaced the front diff with an axial open diff (wheely king diff should fit too since they were interchangeable with axials). That's been running quite nicely. I'd seriously expect cheap metal to fare worse than axial plastic on impact, but I've yet to have problems. I don't think I'll get back into buying RCs like this unless it's a roller or heavily discounted. I'd love to see RPM make axle housings, since their nylon can bend, and it's light.

[@KillaYak38]

Didn't they fix the axles in the second batch?

[@boldrbangr9834]

Great info as always. I look at these two differently. I'm not after ultimate bashing performance, but scale performance. The Rift is a rock bouncer & the Bomber is an Ultra 4. I have the Ryft but would still like a Bomber, particularly if Lite Brite offers a sticker set of their Ultra 4 car for the Bomber. There is a place at my house for both.

[@hemitj]

I like them both. I have a Bomber (first gen) and really enjoy it. Instead of a rear swaybar I installed a cheap set of no name shock with 15W oil and no springs. It got rid of about 90% of the torque twist but kept all the flex.

[@lylevalentine5902]

You're Bomber is really dialed in! I agree the sway bars will clean up the handling on the Ryft! Good comparison!

[@AdventureTimeRC]

Nice comparison Joe they both rock the broken axle issue is what i get the most comments about i love my RYFT hopefully they will get the bugs worked out soon

[@rc-dom-uk]

Nice comparison. Both great good looking rc cars .👍

[@shaynejenkins446]

sway bar on the ryft will add a ton of stability. it should have come with it

[@shadow7796]

I needed to see this. Been wanting a buggy style crawler/racer for a while and so far I'm leaning towards the bomber just because it's a solid platform and alot more aftermarket support. Now after it's been out a while and users get all the bugs figured out, I'll probably change my mind. Thank you sir.

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah the aftermarket is all over the ryft right now. Expect a bunch of stuff in the near future

[@apeion]

Fun video, glad to see a comparison on the two.

[@roosterrc6519]

Both of those are great looking rigs.I need to pick up a rock racer soon .Great job as always !!

[@flat-out]

I say get the bomber, because I have a bomber. The Ryft is like a solid axle buggy with unlocked diffs, the bomber has locked diffs will help a little in crawling.

[@timvanasen6711]

My neighbor is buying my Ryft I don't need another bouncer, In my humble opinion not a fare comparison with 2 completely different purpose built rigs, great rip's tho, I'm a scale purposed rc driver too it's tons of fun for me, I "dig" your hobby Joe because it's yours, see ya in the dirt 😎👍

[@timjohnson9406]

With some tunning the ryft would def be a beast. I have one and love it. Lots of haters out there, but I agree it would beat the bomber stock.

[@Art-zs6sl]

I'd take your Bomber over a stock Ryft! It looks and performs great. I like the stance of the Ryft, and the bigger tires overall. Really hoping for a kit or a roller!

[@stwright318ify]

Keep killing the RC game!👊😎🤙🇺🇸

[@ExocagedRC]

I’m trying!

[@rc-shedshakedown3191]

Glad you pointed out the weakness off the ryft axle housings, because from the start I was looking at these axles to go in an smt10.

[@kellykuretich6366]

After everything I've seen on the rift, going to pass on getting one. Thanks for your time showing us all about it!😁😁👍👍

[@dennisbuckley9569]

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[@rcsendandblast1579]

Thank you for the close look at the new ryft 👊😀

[@ryooperdude3144]

Both these are amazing RCs. Very cool looking. I really couldn't say wich one I like better. Both 👍👍

[@chadlunsford6730]

I like the idea of the Bomber having locked diffs in case u wanted to do a little crawling. But the Ryft looks like hell on wheels haha

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah the ryft is a wild one

[@chadlunsford6730]

Have u ever thought about using an Arrma Typhon as a rock bouncer?

[@chadlunsford6730]

Also wondering, when it comes to a rock bouncer, do u prefer a locked diff or an open diff?

[@nickleewein6142]

I'm having a hard time deciding, once they're both on the same level another comparison video would be cool! Leaning bomber.... maybe...

[@tiptopchevy]

But don't forget, the Ryft didn't have a sway bar. It would help eliminate that torque twist.

[@docedits7294]

Im in the same boat. I have no idea what to get.

[@Musiquence]

Cool to see the Bomber and Ryft comparison. When anounced, I was so excited about the Ryft, but the more I see it in action... not so sure. Sure, your Bomber is not stock, but it looks to perform better ans just provide more fun. Looks more predictable. Definately need to give the Ryft some swaybar! :-) Looking forward to more video's in this series! Keep 'em coming! Cheers, John (hehe, I posted this somewhere half way in your video. Your conclusion was about the same as mine.)

[@douglaselliott8298]

Although BIG for most 1/10 crawling competition gates I made a VERY capable and entertaining crawler out of my Bomber for approximately $150. A $25 Holmes Hobbies 550 Crawlmaster Sport 13T motor. Metal steering links for steering precision, 500oz/in steering servo, and stainless steel skid-plates to protect the axle/pumpkins. Speed cost money(it also breaks shit). Turn the Ryft into a crawler and you won't need $160+ Vitavon CNC machined aluminum axles OR anti-sway bars. Your motor choices could also be far more budget-friendly.

[@ExocagedRC]

To crawl the ryft it will need the low gear set to make the trans a 2speed. It’s simply geared too high to crawl IMO.

[@matty8272]

Ive got a first gen bomber and don't have any complaints. With that I'm very easy going on the "performance" side. I have fun with the hobby.

[@meirdeaph]

Awsome shots of wikid awsome trucks!

[@jdsrcs8061]

I almost bought a Ryft from my LHS on Wednesday, they had 3 of them and one open on display. I didn't have the 500 bucks on me at the time so I bought a scx24 deadbolt I had ordered!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@ottotarnowske987]

Your money ahead buying the Deadbolt

[@tmar352]

@@ottotarnowske987 also more bored lol

[@FarmerFpv]

I put the cheap 140-dollar eBay aluminum portal axels on my Axiel Ryft. It has no more torque twist and they don't break. You need to put a higher kV motor or a bigger pinion to get the top speed back. They have non-portal aluminum axels as well which won't affect the top speed. It is now a beast with the new axels. I love the bomber too. Both are fun.

[@coreycodling6661]

Looks like those locked spools on the bomber is a definite win.. it went where you pointed it .

[@mattjacobus3005]

Another great video from you thank you. have you thought about double shock in the rear for the ryft? I know there is a video floating around just place it at this time. Still loving my capra and its pretty much stock so far lol. That bomber is a lot more controllable, cant wait to see how the ryft does once you fix that tourq twist. keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to seeing your next video.

[@ExocagedRC]

I will be getting a Swaybar in there somehow. I don’t feel it needs dual shocks but I could be wrong on that.

[@timcustomrc]

Try adding a wraiith swaybar to the rryft. Made a big difference on mine with torque twist. Keeps the tires in the ground

[@ExocagedRC]

You have a wraith Swaybar on your ryft?

[@timcustomrc]

@@ExocagedRC yes with a little work. Used a hot racing wraith swaybar. Put some heat shrink on the the 2 wide bushings and they clamp nicely in the stock location. For the bar used an old 3mm Allen(6.25" length) and hardened grub screws. Short video on my channel of it launching on 4s keeping the tire down.

[@markhinkle3234]

For the money, I would choose the Ryft. Seems like one would get a lot more performance out of a Ryft in stock form.

[@KTMcaptain]

I nearly got a Bomber... but my batteries were too large and didn’t want to add in the extra cost on top of the electronics it would need.

[@slysplasteringsly1012]

Love your show. Keep up the great content

[@chronicrcvideos5141]

U4 vs Rock Bouncer! Very nice review, now I want a Bomber with open diffs and earplugs lol 🤙🏻

[@ExocagedRC]

😂😂

[@krashkingrc9715]

Awesome video excellent bashing I think the ryft has more but the bomber is more reliable but great rigs

[@travisnance8195]

Try running duel shocks in the rear to help with the torque twist

[@ExocagedRC]

Nope. Check some newer videos of it as I have a Swaybar on it and it’s perfect.

[@RCRitterFPV]

great point about the torque twist, I really hate it, it ruins the whole thing for me. the Ryft is plenty fast. kinda want fastest "Trail Truck" U4 style prerunner... with Torque twist under control... I probably just want heavy sway bar, but it feels like a geometry thing. don't mind a little, "got some power under here" but the whole 3 wheel dog looking to pee thing... want like a Tekno or Vanquish version.... sell 3 buy 1 kinda deal... really like the side by side running up the same hill, very informative. thank you.

[@mangler.m4950]

I think you have accidentally convinced me to get the bomber over the rift

[@Cooldibs]

Did they ever fix the axle housing on the Ryft?

[@LakeshoreAutosOnline]

Any chance you tried putting an aluminum axle from Bomber or Yeti on the Ryft? They look like they could fit.

[@ExocagedRC]

The 60 is about 18mm shorter.

[@GrimJerr]

I have to admit Horizon doing a great job in responding to issues with the RYFT, less than 24 hours after reporting problems I am having they have responded and they have already shipped replacement parts.

[@glennjthompson332]

The (Mod Bomber) won that challenge! 😁 but the (RYFT) needs serious after market upgrades?🤔 hmmm... and one more thing, I wish the (RYFT) get a molded steel aluminum roll cage in the future, hopefully 🤔 if it's in your plans, or any company makes one originally, just my opinion and thought.🤨☕🏗️🇺🇸🔥

[@jonthomas8487]

I’m waiting on the kit version of the Ryft. I wonder if temperature is the reason why folks were breaking axles? I know I’m not going to buy over $300 in axle housings if I buy one so I’m watching for after market bracing

[@ExocagedRC]

Bracing is coming out, some are testing “beef tubes” for them as well. There will be affordable options soon. I’ve got the Vitavon housings on the way because I’ve had such good luck with his parts.

[@PopalongRC]

Both cool looking cars not sure which one id pick

[@tittentei7331]

Hey. Nice series! Can i use this engine and esc for ryft on a e revo?

[@ExocagedRC]

you need a bigger setup for an erevo

[@tittentei7331]

@@ExocagedRC Hey thanks for the answar. Can I buy a hobbywing 2200 kv and a max8 esc? Or could you tell me what system i should buy?

[@wgmainline9812]

I have the bomber and honestly it was not good out of the box. I was so disappointed the first time I ran it. But as you said highly modified it's much better. I've spent a small fortune getting it there. I have trouble with traction roll now. I have the Castle Slate 2850 in mine. I couldn't imagine how it would be with the 3800!! Thank You for another great video!!!!

[@pinkslash2wd157]

Does the wraith spawn fall in with these trucks?

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah it’s close but just a bit different.

[@OperatorD95]

Planning to get a Ryft soon, still love my Bomber absolutely and it's my number 1 Vehicle. Got a AXE 3300kv system in the bomber feels perfect for it imo, slow crawl and enough speed if you wanna go faster and with some gearing/transmission mods you could make it even faster. Would just wish that the currie axles from Vanquish come back into stock, last thing I wanna upgrade on my Bomber :(

[@backroads_rc6989]

i said it once and ill say it again, You are the best one handed driver in the R.C world.

[@theSvrh]

Do you think a servo saver is a good idea for the bomber? I use mine in a similar way you have been using your v2 bomber. Planning to buy a beefy servo soon as i stripped my cheapy

[@ExocagedRC]

Well if we can ever get the servo saver I want ( I’m trying to get some made ) a saver would be awesome. I use a straight horn.

[@buddytickhill8843]

Are the tires on the Ryft a similar compound to pro line's G8 tires? Great comparison on the vehicles.👍

[@ExocagedRC]

Not sure but they feel really good. I have other tires I may try but idk man these stickers run great.

[@buddytickhill8843]

@@ExocagedRC Was just wondering since horizon owns proline now. They look awesome and so does the rig.

[@joshspaulding8691]

Will the cage on the ryft fit on the bomber

[@ExocagedRC]

They are very different

[@AverageReviewsYT]

I like the ryft more. I just cannot agree more about gearing and of course the sway bar. I feel like the tires perform better overall compared to the other one.

[@gudmundursveinsson9060]

I think the ryft overall wins in the value department. And kinda difficult to give them a fair comparison without the rift sway bar

[@mikemcnevin1785]

My biggest fear with the Ryft is snapping the axle. I wasn't aware of the axle issue until I purchased the vehicle. It's still in the box.

[@sprather84]

Play with it brother does no good in the Box if it breaks fix it if it breaks again upgrade it its 1 of my favorite parts about the hobby 👍 take care and always RC

[@gudmundursveinsson9060]

Vitavon has axles out for it already 🙂 got mine today and they seem excellent

[@sprather84]

UPGRADES 😍

[@hardcoretam]

I think your custom Capra bouncer should have been in this as well, if you still have it. It seems to be perform really well last i seen it. Between the rift as you have it now, the Bomber as it is now and the Capra bouncer what one would you say feels the most fun to use? Doesnt even need to be the best performing one just for enjoyment i mean

[@ExocagedRC]

Hate to say this but I do feel the Capra bouncer would eat the ryfts lunch as it sits....

[@slysplasteringsly1012]

Rc sparks was able to put two shocks at the back end . Have a look. It settled it down and drove awesome

[@YOOPDLRC]

Very nice 👍😊👍!!!

[@joespafford6499]

I have both. I love both. Trying to figure out what I need to do. I have build kit. Following the playlist

[@FifthScaleOrBustRc]

Sweeet!! Watching now! Degf agree box stock one on one forget it RYFT will ripp the Bomber apart! Im really loving my RYFT in stock form its still a blast!👊👍

[@flat-out]

I know you don't like the Losi Lasernut but would do a video with along with these 2 and make some upgrades to the lasernut if you want to.

[@ExocagedRC]

I’ve got a lasernut video set for tomorrow. It’s fixed up with Vitavon stuff now.

[@flat-out]

@@ExocagedRC nice...we'll see that. And see if you recommend it over the 2 Axials.

[@theSvrh]

If i was buying new and stock probably the ryft. But you can ebay buy a used bomber with the required upgrades already done. For about what the ryft new cost. Once built with similar suspension/tire set up; i think they would be pretty comparable. Not sure how the open diffs vs locked diffs will do

[@TNW84]

I was thinking about putting a 10T pinion on my Bomber after some upgrades I did that added weight. Think the 35 turn motor could handle it? Thanks

[@ExocagedRC]

Should but really a bomber needs brushless power.

[@TNW84]

@@ExocagedRC Why is that? I’m not looking for top speed. Realistically I want my walking speed to be faster than the car lol. So does it come down to upgrading the motor to accomplish better crawling? Or gearing? Because one is definitely more expensive than the other.

[@HBFTimmahh]

Ordered the Savvy Bomber on the flash sale. Hard to pass up 230.00 off the rtr... Should see it end of next week.

[@JCMcustoms]

Great video!! I appreciate the knowledge!! New subscriber here!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@ExocagedRC]

Awesome man. Glad to have you!

[@juanmarichal263]

Hi mate, excellent video as always, one question, ¿what is the battery tray size?

[@toddbertram6556]

I am actually surprised something like the ryft didn't get released a couple years earlier. Well, maybe it was planned before they sold the company or something. But I'm not a bouncer guy and the torque twist on 4s is unreal. It's actually seems extreme enough to highly impede the performance. But I'm sure it is a fun rig, personally I'm a scale truck guy and I love the slow crawl.

[@coryrible1600]

Maybe do a comparison once you get the right power system for the RYFT and sway bar. Then it would be a more fair comparison once they are both modded out!

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah that will be round 2. I may have to put the Capra bouncer in there too.

[@utamkola]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍 nice to see guys

[@odomandr]

The design of the servo on the axle tube instead of on top of the truss with the ryft has me hesitating but with a sway bar it could be a different story. The bomber is just so nice when built up though .....

[@damionjarnigan663]

You drove bomber definitely better cause of time with it. But Ryft is more Rock Bouncer style and it showed lol.

[@ExocagedRC]

Well the Bomber is much more tame than the Ryft is. If the Ryft didn’t have so much torque twist I’d be just as good with that one. I think. LoL

[@natetron7926]

I don't think you can really choose a better one one has a longer wheelbase in the other one so they're both very capable but at the end of the day you want a shorter wheelbase for certain applications and a longer wheelbase for other applications but the rift in my book just looks way better and when you get sway bars on it the performance will be the same pretty much except for the wheelbase and what it can climb

[@ExocagedRC]

Right. Swaybar will change everything.

[@davidarnold2427]

my bomber is heavily modded love it hill climb at USTE was a blast

[@ExocagedRC]

I wasn't able to get out for that, was too busy with everything

[@jeremyofthejungle]

I'm kinda partial to the ryft. I've never driven one but, but I'll own one eventually.

[@gnsukmaofficial]

Nice..👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Tubular

[@ericpeterson9676]

Thinking about getting the ryft.

[@christopherselke1340]

I go out where ur at all the time and drive a few ima try to go out there this weekend and drive my tmaxx and a trx4 most likely Sunday

[@keekay_cg32c7.r2]

Can you pull out the Xmaxx again? Try doing the XLX2 with the 1717 ;)

[@ExocagedRC]

I’ve got that motor in the Mojave. I kinda like it better in there.

[@keekay_cg32c7.r2]

@@ExocagedRC that's cool when will the Maxx come out again?

[@braaitongs]

How long does the battery last?

[@TimsRcsurgery]

Not sold on the Ryft, the Bomber does it for me 😃

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

I do believe you are right it looks to be a heavy build compared to the squirely ryft

[@TimsRcsurgery]

@@stevemdelacruz5602 yea. Sounds great on paper, I think they have created a solution to a problem that really doesn’t exist 🤷‍♂️

[@fozzy7199]

I think the Ryft is the next car I buy in 2023, first I got to spend a couple of grand upgrading all my other cars this winter. I think I am putting mamba x sct combos in most of my 10th scale rigs this winter

[@michaelhoyle3266]

Hard to have an honest comparison unless both rigs are bone stock. I think the Losi Rock Rey would be closer to the Ryft than the Bomber. But thanks for another fun video.

[@ExocagedRC]

Bone stock it’s a clear and easy win for the Ryft IMO.

[@Amoljadhav412]

❤🎉🎉

[@dantrivett8435]

I want them both

[@Vladle2099]

I got a ryft that somebody spent a crapload of money all Treal upgrades . Now I got a bomber in a trade. Traded a slash 2wd for for a bomber roller. Both trucks are good. So the winner is you and me for owning them.

[@leewardstyle]

Had a Bomber a year now... Had the Ryft for a week... I'll take stock Bomber for the Axles and less breakage every time. Stock Ryft feels rushed... As my tires are super stiff and kick me into barrel rolls all the time (at slow speeds). I put the Stock Bomber tires on my Ryft and it actually did better! Not to discredit you of course, but to point out that factory consistency on Ryfts are all over the map.

[@bacongl]

I already have a built Bomber and Wraith so I am going to pass on this one. I do like it, just seems redundant for me. Looking forward to seeing them all over Axialfest.

[@killingtime8342]

Both are cool like the bomber look tho

[@JoeOvercoat]

I like how you can see the ryft’s wheels.

[@Tuidkskiwjdhdbd]

Great vid

[@FranekDux]

Very nice comparison. Honestly I would be more interested seeing a comparison between the RYFT and the WRAITH SPAWN. I have seen a lot of videos where the SPAWN performed much better then the BOMBER. Maybe somebody could share his experience between the SPAWN and the BOMBER here and what's better as stock and how would be the comparison results between RYFT and the SPAWN??

[@skydog237]

I like the ryft. I have the bomber v2 but I’m trying to figure out what motor to put in it.... I like the castle 3800kv motor, but I’m looking for something a little faster. Something that can go about 40 mph but still crawl without cogging. Any suggestions?

[@alvintarrer6914]

Shucks,ring up both...be happy 👍☕️☕️✌️

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

I like the Bomber tryed and true It's can take a beating stock or modified . Bomber 💯👍

[@goreyboggs]

Ryft looks fun. It’s to bad they are having problems with it

[@ExocagedRC]

Most issues are taken care of now. Still needs a Swaybar.

[@jkmayhem]

I do see allot of people that have been breaking things on the ryft and the new losi monster truck might be due to them being run in very cold conditions. Some plastics really dont like close to minus degrees celsius. Or below. From experience that is. Bashing it to hell in the summer no prob. But just one trip in the winter and stuf breaks. Did not both vehicles get released dring this winter. And first runs in colder conditions? Dual shocks at the rear also removes allot of that torque twist.

[@northsandiegorc4248]

I’ll take the bomber over the ryft its just not my style (rock bouncer) I like ultra 4 better, and not having to worry about snapping axles.

[@JeeplifeBC]

I'm a bomber fan!!

[@jaymcmillan1144]

I don’t know how the battery goes into the RYFT, but the Bomber battery area is too small and limits the size of the battery you can use and still close and clip the hood shut. I like the Bomber, but Horizon really needs to redesign the battery compartment.

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

Torque twist is so bad in that Ryft that it ddidbt even have all 4 tires on the ground on those harder climbs

[@thomasthetankengine7153]

Everytime I drive my ryft it breaks something 🙄 not happy with it anyone else think maybe a recall on them

[@ExocagedRC]

There won’t be a recall. They’ll send you new parts but you gotta call them.