Jime is adorable and very relatable . She should be a regular on the channel.
@adammorra3813 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. What would you like her to do? Maybe we can get her to share her Pros and Cons of Espinho list? Or bring her on our podcast to do something more in-depth? Give us some ideas. - Josh & Kalie
@RThirkill Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere You guys are so great at what you do! Sometimes you interview certain expats and their perspectives on the experience are particularly illuminating and intriguing. You almost want to check in later and to see how their journey and thoughts about living in Portugal are evolving. Jime is a great example. Josh interviewed an expat who moved to Lisbon several months ago who had great thoughts about the transition to Portugal. Kalie had a lady musician in Porto in a live group who was really interesting. I’m just so curious about how their adjustment to Portugal has been going over time, what challenges they faced as they got more into it, what became easier, what they have continued to learn? Are they still in that area or did they move on? It’s just a thought. More than anything thanks for all you guys do. I can’t tell you how helpful your channel has been.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@RThirkill Thank you very much. It's honestly, not a bad idea at all. Maybe it's something we could do on our podcast as well. The real tricky thing about KZbin is the title and thumbnail aspect. I don't know if we could make the connection between the guest's first interview with us and their second so people that have seen the first realize it's them and we create an increased desire to watch the second one. Let us think about this. - Josh & Kalie
@gigiis526 Жыл бұрын
Arent most people when put in the limelight and a position where they are asked for their opinions? She is the typical godless childless liberal living a selfish life of self fulfillment /DINK.
@larrylee7682 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this interview. Kalie was so spot on with her questions and manner, and Jime was delightful to listen to. Her responses were thoughtful and had depth. Both were easy to listen to and informative. This is one of my most favorite expatseverywhere videos. Great job!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! We loved this one too. We really liked the look, feel and pace of the way this one turned out. We'll keep doing expat interviews as long as people keep watching them. 😁 Jime has an in-depth pros and cons list for Espinho so that could by a contributing factor for her thoughtful responses. We got finished with the interview she felt unsatisfied with her ability to cover the topics. 😅 We thought she was great. - Josh & Kalie
@ItllBeFun Жыл бұрын
Bom dia! Nice interview. Thanks for showing a lesser known area. Portugal is Awesome!
@prowireless Жыл бұрын
I’m visiting Spain and Portugal from USA I’m currently in Viana de Castelo Portugal And I’m on my way to Espinho as I am typing this I’m staying in Espinho tonight ready to enjoy the beach
@ricardoxavier827 Жыл бұрын
Espinho is a beach with a lot of teenage memories for me... Because the train station are so close to the main beach and city center with everything we might need, its the most famous beach - town of the Porto area for generations. Perfect to teenage groups or young adults that dont own a car. Until i have my first car, Espinho was the way for everyone i grow up with, and i am from north-east porto town....
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Ricardo! - Josh & Kalie
@tanyagiggle4207 Жыл бұрын
I really love the interview style of this video. Very informative and entertaining! 5 stars!!
@wilfredobenitez7275 Жыл бұрын
I spent a month in Espinho in January of 2022. Lots of rain, the apartment I rented was cold, the waves were fierce in the Winter (dangerous) and not much happening socially. Affordability is definitely much better than Porto or Lisbon. If you like a quieter pace, it’s a lovely place to be, especially in the warmer dryer months of the year. I was their last March and it was way more pleasant.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Wilfred. - Josh & Kalie
@FORESTJANE369 Жыл бұрын
No one goes to espinho 😅
@ricpr Жыл бұрын
@@FORESTJANE369 for a lot of people that would be a plus.
@RyneLanders Жыл бұрын
I live on the central Oregon coast now and this sounds identical to our weather here. Winters are miserable with lots of rain and pounding waves, the towns basically shut down for much of the winter. It's freezing and cold, and it hails (small pebbles). Spring is full of rain every day but it's warmer, at least. The summers are bustling and gorgeous, and tourism is the biggest economic driver. Everything's blooming and the weather is fantastic, but not too warm (averages ~65-75 degrees Fahrenheit, with a few outliers).
@JenShea Жыл бұрын
Kalie, I've said this before... you are such a great interviewer!! Great chat. I 100% agree with smaller towns, and language, and what she said about the Portuguese not owing us (non-Portuguese) anything. I want to become fairly fluent eventually and it won't likely happen if I only speak English. Jime was a great guest. I do like when you interview other immigrants.
@antoniodasilva1230 Жыл бұрын
Central silver coast is the real deal
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jen. We appreciate the feedback. - Josh & Kalie
@moward301 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, Kalie! Thanks also for highlighting a lesser known area in Portugal, as I'm still searching for my "forever " area. Great insights! Thanks as always, fantastic info!❤
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mo. We really hope to find people in interesting places doing interesting things to bring you all a video interview once a month. Wish us luck! - Josh & Kalie
@moward301 Жыл бұрын
@ExpatsEverywhere that's a great idea! You guys will do great as always. I'll keep looking out for all your videos. You're my weekly staple! Love you guys' work, it's solid!!!❤️😊
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@moward301 thank you very much. We love being a part of people's weekly routine. - Josh & Kalie
@user-cj9zx1me7b Жыл бұрын
Kalie, you really are a great interviewer.....you ask valid questions, you are patient in waiting for the full answer, and you are engaging. Thank you!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you very much for the feedback. - Josh & Kalie
@Take5North Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Another great in-depth video revealing the many aspects of expat-ing to Portugal that are not discussed anywhere else. What a fantastic guest! I thought she shared many interesting points. & Kaylee was sharp with her questions. I appreciate this unique info as we are planning a move ourselves. ALSO I just want to say it takes a lot of time and effort for Josh & Kaylee to generate these videos and share great content that help us so much. We all subscribe to so many things I just think if you have not already send some thanks$$ from time to time 😀
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank for the channel support! Thank you very much. We're glad that you liked Jime as a guest. We appreciate your sentiment a lot. It's really kind of you. - Josh & Kalie
@Solo50plus Жыл бұрын
Love the questions you asked and the way dived into the realities.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! - Josh & Kalie
@barbaramcquiddy1814 Жыл бұрын
Jame I am so sorry you lost your father! Hope your trip goes smooth.
@teodoro1007 Жыл бұрын
I listened very closely to your video. I'm still in Coimbra, where I rented in December 2021 after watching your video from July 2021. I took a direct flight from Tigre, Argentina, and I like Portugal a lot. The great advantage is to speak English here, Spanish is known, but not very much liked. People are really nice.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Hi Teo! Thanks for the comment. - Josh & Kalie
@suespencer6563 Жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT interview, Kalie! I was super excited because it's ESPINHO that you're talking about!!! Our neighbors and best friends from the mountains of Virginia USA moved to Espinho and they LOVE it!!! We've visited and can't WAIT to return. A GREAT little city in Portugal with NO cruise ships in sight! (YAY)
@MetalGearMk3 Жыл бұрын
I have S.A.D. and I don't recommend any place that has mild or harsh winter. I would feel super depress during winter time and my energy levels would drop by 60%.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Avoid the north of Portugal then. - Josh & Kalie
@tintinet Жыл бұрын
Or get a light therapy lamp!
@portugaltheplace5 ай бұрын
I live in the center of the Silver Coast. Geographically and marketing Leiria district is the Silver Coast. The next coastal towns going up to Aveiro are central coast, Aveiro to Porto in Porto region or North Portugal. It’s very specific. We work with the Portuguese Tourism board and have made sure to verify this so that people don’t get confused. Distinctly different regions, weather and culture.
@ExpatsEverywhere5 ай бұрын
Congratulations. It's a nice place to live. Please site your sources with the tourism board. We'd love to see it. You can email them to contact@expatseverywhere.com There are so many sources online, which I'm not saying that we should believe everything we see online, but at least there are many maps that show that the Silver Coast isn't just the Leiria district but the Coimbra district and Aveiro district too. Figueira da Foz is in the Coimbra district, isn't it? Are you saying that it's not the Silver Coast? - Josh
@superpoodlehead Жыл бұрын
REFRESHING! Real people. Valid questions. Honest answers. ❤❤
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Jime is an awesome interviewee. - Josh & Kalie
@DeanRamser10 ай бұрын
Olá! Thank you for an excellent video. We are retired American educators in Europe now after helping a new school open in Lviv. We stayed in Krakow for 6 weeks and in Tallinn for one month. We plan on returning to Europe in the fall, exploring Portugal and possibly our next home location. This area has amazing towns, beaches, and boardwalks. We love a walkable and accessible city. Healthcare, transportation, safety, and reliability are our concerns. Obrigado!! Dean & Cindy
@lamontjackson32118 ай бұрын
This video is great and very informative. You do have a clip in there of a San Francisco Muni train. I see the Balboa Park station sign.
@ExpatsEverywhere8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. What time was the clip at? I didn't personally edit this one. - Josh
@lamontjackson32118 ай бұрын
It is at the 8.29 marker. When you talk about transportation.
@ExpatsEverywhere8 ай бұрын
@@lamontjackson3211 yes, I remember this sequence. It was general stock footage of trains that Maria, our Portuguese part-time editor, found. This basically the moment, we decided that we needed to use footage of the location if we're talking about a specific location like the train station in Espinho. - Josh
@homyce Жыл бұрын
Canadian here and moving to Portugal next month. I will just say you are so lucky that Canadian project of yours didn't work (specially when you are prone to seasonal blues)
@prowireless Жыл бұрын
Running away from Trudeau ? Lol
@kateshemyakina4707 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this interview! So informative, pleasant and nice!
@Rabelo1301 Жыл бұрын
Nice interview, just loved it! Espinho seems a great place to be.
@annemoxley11 ай бұрын
Hi Jime and Kalie. I loved the interview. Myself and my 2 daughters moved to Portugal, from the US in Nov 2022. We live in Espinho too and love it. We plan to stay here. I hope to see you around. Love the shots of Espinho! My younger daughter worked at 37 Na Praia this past summer and Patinho is a regular hang for us - best pingo in town. Winter is almost over😘😘. Anne
@ExpatsEverywhere11 ай бұрын
Hi Anne, thanks for the love. You'll likely see Max and Jime around before you see us (Josh & Kalie). If you come to Porto, you'll likely see us. You could come to a meetup though. The next one is in February. - Josh & Kalie
@rajalokan1 Жыл бұрын
Long time Indian viewer living in Aveiro currently . It was nice to see an Indian Railways in your edit at 8:34. 👍👍
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
😁 Thank you. We don't have enough train b-roll so we had to use some stock footage there. There's not a lot for Portugal in general on the subscription we have so a lot of what we have is what we shoot. - Josh & Kalie
@rajalokan1 Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere You both are great. You are our go to guy to clarify any of our issue. We still go to your Medical Insurance and Real Estate videso. Wonderful, wonderful content. Thanks a lot. I wish we knew when you both were here in Aveiro. Keep exploring. Cheers!!
@Isochest11 ай бұрын
Fun fact is Portuguese railways use the same wide track gauge of 5'6" 1668mm as India does.
@cidaliasoares-chan2350 Жыл бұрын
Katie, great interview. I am looking to retire soon.... in two years when I am 60. I am looking for a place that is connected to transport like Jime and near water. I am a view person. I love the ocean! I presently live on an island and would like to move to Portugal. I speak the language so that will not be a problem. Have you done any research on great places for retirees to live? I would be very interested!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you. We haven't done a video specifically on retirement destinations. - Josh & Kalie
@teardropannie9614 Жыл бұрын
Same here - moving to Espinho in another 1.5 years would love to connect with Jime!
@realgeorge Жыл бұрын
Very useful interview with a balanced coverage of the issues. A few things that were not covered, unless I missed them: housing - are they renting? how did they find their housing? plans to purchase?, etc. ; experience with the medical system? do they have private medical insurance? ; what kind of visa are they using? ; banking - were they able to open a local account? was that easy to do?. Also, a number of tourists comment that many people smoke in public spaces. Is that just a big city tourist area problem? That would have been an interesting question. A general comment: Some of the b-roll shots seemed to have been stock footage of things (random city street, restaurant, nightlife, subway, etc.) and not actual footage from Espinho but it was not possible to tell which was which. Confusing.
@theresecouncilor6638 Жыл бұрын
Great interview! Excellent questions and insightful, thoughtful answers to them! Thank you! ❤
@marmor73 Жыл бұрын
So no problems with internet or wifi. Love all the Info about Portugal.
@entrophyentrophy9562 Жыл бұрын
Great info. It confirms my suspicions about tourism impact seasonally and the weather north of Lisbon. I currently live in Tucson AZ USA where the desert weather is mild in the winter. I moved here from a tourist town where there are lots of things to do 6mo. but it’s a hassle navigating the crowds. The other 6mo. most things are closed. I’m thinking I need a larger city where the tourism impact is offset with lots of other things to do year round. You gave me something to think about when you asked whether it’s seeing the water or being in the water that’s important for the location you pick. 🤔 I’m curious about Setubal both from the weather and accessibility standpoint. I will need to walk or have public transportation. Did you or Josh do a video on this and I just missed it? Thanks 😊
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Yes, we've done a video on Setúbal. On our channel page, you can search any keyword/city and if we have it, it should pop up. - Josh & Kalie
@billchivers8925 Жыл бұрын
My partner and I are considering a move to PT in the future. We first visited Porto ~7 years ago, visited again in 2022 and will be coming back again in a couple of months. Initially my partner was all about Porto but we visited Espinho and we really liked it. It's so close to Porto via train, its quiet, and of course it's less expensive. We currently live in a city of ~90k so we are used to quiet times like winter time, and our largest city is 2 hours by car. The nice thing about either being retired/semi-retired and/or being a remote worker you could leave the area for month or so in the winter....like going to the Algarve. Nice getting Jime's take on living there!
@mashanti_worldwide Жыл бұрын
Great interview.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you! - Josh & Kalie
@teacheraugust Жыл бұрын
Winter 2021 it was dry and sunny. Winter 2022 it rained 90 days so let’s see what winter 2023 will be. It’s not always rainy and gloomy.
@marisapollock47038 ай бұрын
I love that one of their top priorities was being able to swim in natural water, that's one of ours too! Most people think it's a strange need.
@pettynerd1285 Жыл бұрын
Love Jime's hair colour!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
We do too! - Josh & Kalie
@briant3404 Жыл бұрын
i think last october through the end of the year was unusually rainy, every day
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. - Josh & Kalie
@paulineverriere8054 Жыл бұрын
Best interview on Portugal…keep going
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you. - Josh & Kalie
@adriencapela6977 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kalie, one of my customer (from the US) told me about you, I work as a Mortage Broker for international customers buying properties in Portugal, I would be glad to speak with you :).
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrien, you can email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com to message her directly. - Josh & Kalie
@justinesimone53439 ай бұрын
Would have liked to hear costs for rent, food etc.
@duosiris34 Жыл бұрын
its my experience that Vitamin D helps with the winter blues
@wendylmorris3872 Жыл бұрын
Very good and informative interview, Kalie!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! - Josh & Kalie
@LifeinGlow Жыл бұрын
Great interview! Interesting how people choose places where to live …
@sander77829 ай бұрын
2:52 where is this shot taken?
@portugaltheplace5 ай бұрын
Interesting interview with a great perspective but Espinho is not the Silver Coast. it is Northern Portugal. The Silver Coast is a marketing term that is the district of Leiria, it starts from Peniche and goes north to Leiria. The Silver Coast has different weather, access and activities.
@ExpatsEverywhere5 ай бұрын
According to research we've done, Espinho is the most northern town on the Silver Coast. If you're saying it's a marketing term then it seems like it might be a little ambiguous geographically. - Josh
@nicktheomartin162 Жыл бұрын
You should also highlight on the fact's about many expats leaving portugal.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
We've got our take on it and we're preparing a video to talk about it. Thank you. - Josh & Kalie
@paulineverriere8054 Жыл бұрын
Do more of this…please…want to know portugal…great…each area
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
We have a huge backlog of interviews are will continue to try to do an interview every month or so. - Josh & Kalie
@terrisokolow7796 Жыл бұрын
Another great interview, Kalie!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you again! - Josh & Kalie
@westernnut8407 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview!
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thank you! - Josh & Kalie
@Elsabud Жыл бұрын
How Cold is cold. Portugal is not a typical coldn country and often February is spring time weather and 60s in some places. I think of that as warm and almost hot for February
@ajdrums8075 Жыл бұрын
We are Australian and recently moved with family to Praia Da Rocha and were surprised by how run down most of the buildings are and how windy it is at the beach which really spoils the Beach lifestyle. We will move back to Bodrum Turkiye ASAP as the water and landscape is so much more beautiful and its rarely windy. Positives have been the beautiful people and high quality affordable red wine as a treat. Crazy expensive rent here though 😅
@AzureKite191 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried Portuguese food?
@ajdrums8075 Жыл бұрын
@Pandax0x Well I live here currently so yes. I don't eat seafood unfortunately so I enjoy it but don't love it.
@rosalindhb Жыл бұрын
Did you not research how the buildings and such were before hand? Sounds like you came site unseen.
@celsocosta880 Жыл бұрын
Yes very windy the all coast of Portugal and sea very cold!Big turn off for a lot of people.
@virtualworldsbyloff Жыл бұрын
Jesus, I lived in the North, water is freezing, even in Summer, if you wanna live by the Ocean to swim move to sunny coastal Alentejo, South of Lisbon
@melodyharkwright471211 ай бұрын
How were they able to stay a year as far as immigration rules go?
@ExpatsEverywhere11 ай бұрын
They moved with a residency visa. - Josh & Kalie
@robinbailey55 Жыл бұрын
Great interview Kalie! Josh should buy you a Superbock since you did such a great job! 😜🍻
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robin! I'm always buying her Super Bock. - Josh & Kalie
@ironfistarrival Жыл бұрын
Hi there , I have a question about Portugal Visa , For example let’s say the Visa for Retiree ,could the visa be applied and arranged within Portugal or we must apply for it from our country of residency ? Thanks .
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Hi. Apply from your home country. - Josh & Kalie
@oesoy Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all the first-experience content but I would love more insight on taxes.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
We have a money episode on our podcast. By far and away, the best thing to do to understand taxes better is to speak to a tax professional about your specific situation. - Josh & Kalie
@arnikakiani8014 Жыл бұрын
So, cost of living in Portugal is very affordable, but it´s a lot more fun if ou have a salary/income from a country with much higher cost of living (and pay less taxes than locals due to NHR status) because - I feel so bad for them!!! Why is it like that??? - salaries in Portugal are much lower. So close to self-awareness. So close.
@giselaafonso5 ай бұрын
Espinho is not in the Silver Coast.
@ExpatsEverywhere5 ай бұрын
Are you sure it's not the most northern city? ;-) It stretches from the city of Espinho in the north to the city of Torres Vedras in the south. So what's the Silver Coast to you? - Josh & Kalie
@lidogarage5250 Жыл бұрын
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@jfarinhote Жыл бұрын
"Very easy process to get the visa", this is the fastest way to go down in security
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Others would say an open door policy.
@jul7291 Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting and useful for me. I could relate to so much she was saying, and her perspective on moving to Portugal. Just one piece of advice #Expats everywhere - stay away from the annoying stock video footage. I spent time peering at it to see if was actually Espinho, and actually your guest, but it obviously wasn't (unless they have London buses there...?). It really adds nothing and actually makes your content look dodgy and fake, which I'm sure it's not. OTOH, more shots of Espinho would have really been nice.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Hey, Annie. We had a lot of our own footage in their. Stuff that we didn't have enough of, our Portuguese PT editor added what she could find. It is what it is. We liked her work on this one. We ran out of time to go to Espinho again to get what was missing. Every shot of Espinho was ours because there's zero stock footage of the town. - Josh & Kalie
@fourtywater77 Жыл бұрын
What if you scaled up and hired local Portuguese? They get paid and you get paid. Everybody wins.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you're commenting on. - Josh & Kalie
@fourtywater77 Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere When she mentioned about working online making US dollars and living in Portugal.
@fourtywater77 Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere She could grow her online business getting paid un USD and finding some locals to work for her and use the currency arbitrage to her advantage.
@sanmarcoargentanocosenzait2524 Жыл бұрын
Why do you call yourselves "expats"? The correct word is: "immigrants".
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Because eventually, we'll leave. - Josh & Kalie
@svenlima Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere That's not the definition of an "expat". An expatriate is somebody who doesn't stay in his "patria" (= home country) - it doesn't say anything about the lenghts of the absence. I have "expat" friend who don't intend to return to their country anytime soon, but they call themselves "expats" anyway. Copied from the net: Semantics of the word expat: Dictionary definitions for the current meaning of the word include: Expatriate: 'A person who lives outside their native country' (Oxford) or 'living in a foreign land' (Webster's).[ These definitions contrast with those of other words with a similar meaning, such as: Migrant: 'A person who moves from one place to another in order to find work or better living conditions' (Oxford),[5] or 'one that migrates: such as a: a person who moves regularly in order to find work especially in harvesting crops' (Webster's);[6] or Immigrant 'A person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country' (Oxford),[7] or 'one that immigrates: such as a: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence (Webster's).[8] The varying use of these terms for different groups of foreigners can be seen as implying nuances about wealth, intended length of stay, perceived motives for moving, nationality, and even race. This has caused controversy, with some commentators asserting that the traditional use of the word "expat" has had racist connotations.[9][10]
@svenlima Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywhere The right word for foreigners whom eventually leave is: tourists ... :-)
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@svenlima right and the word Immigrant as you display here says "permanently", which is generally accepted to be different than expat.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@svenlima also it appears you copied and pasted your definition from wikipedia so here what's in the same article "People could more readily choose to live for several years in a foreign country, or be sent there by employers."
@drusmith6463 Жыл бұрын
why expat? why not calling it what it is: immigrants
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
What's the definition of expat and immigrant then?
@laurissimano2585 Жыл бұрын
Expat , no. Immigrant , yes
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
What's an expat then if Jime and Max aren't it? - Josh & Kalie
@Haiyan25 Жыл бұрын
@@ExpatsEverywherean expat will come to country, live there for a number years, benefit from whatever that country has to offer, and then leave. An immigrant will move to a country to live, probably forever.
@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын
@@Haiyan25 they're not planning to live in Portugal forever. That wasn't the plan when they moved. That's our point. - Josh & Kalie