Experiment with Universal Basic Income: From idea to implementation | ASTHA KAPOOR | TEDxIIMIndore

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7 жыл бұрын

Astha Kapoor, a public strategist talks about Universal Basic Income and how ideas need to be tested and nurtured before reaching its conclusion.
Astha Kapoor is a public-policy strategy consultant working on financial inclusion and digital payments. A Master from Institute of Social Studies, Netherlands, she is currently associated with MicroSave with a focus on G2P payments .Her work spans strategy, advisory and evaluation on government project specifically with the DBT Mission, Office of the Chief Economic Advisor, NITI Aayog and ministries pertaining to food, fuel and fertilizer. She recently designed a pilot to digitize uptake of fertilizers in Krishna district, and evaluated the newly introduced coupon system in the PDS in Bangalore and design of cash coupon system. Astha worked at Dalberg Global Development Advisors on a year-long project with USAID and Government of India to incentivize uptake of digital payments for consumers and merchants. She also worked with the Planning Commission on the 12th Five Year Plan and Self Employed Women’s Association (SEWA).
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@ToNmAnAyO
@ToNmAnAyO 7 жыл бұрын
What she clearly doesn't explain well enough is that, giving people a basic income will allow everyone to have an opportunity to have an education/ money for basic needs. I feel it's a solution for taking people out of poverty. I find it really fucked up when stopping at a traffic light and there is someone begging for money. I feel like no one in this world should struggle to just survive, when we have people that can spend $100 on a gold plated doughnut .
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the ending lol
@teye6262
@teye6262 7 жыл бұрын
This is what the world needs . We shouldn't have to be forced to work to live. Every other species on this planet lives for free. This is a start of something beautiful and gave me hope in humanity again. We need to get to the point where money doesn't exist at all. So everyone can enjoy there life without worrying about a piece of paper.
@peruface
@peruface 7 жыл бұрын
yeah sounds good to me
@willfullyinformed
@willfullyinformed 7 жыл бұрын
Universal Basic Income is the only way forward with automation, period, otherwise you'll just continue technological suppression and planned obsolescence on a mass scale to keep menial-meaningless jobs so that people can "come out of poverty" - this is a catch 22, it's delaying the INEVITABLE and perpetuating poverty. *I know this is difficult for some to comprehend judging by the comments*, but as people evolve consciously and understand the grander scope of their situation - money will become what it really is, worthless green paper, and people will no longer require green paper for basic modern necessities like food, water, electricity, cancer research, or mass quality of life improvements. You have to look at the grander scale, not just the confined box of the human economic game that you've been conditioned to believe is the only way. People like Jacque Fresco and Peter Joseph (among many others) have been saying this for YEARS because it's common sense. Not only will this solve the current foundational issues of our market economy system, but it will propel us forward out of economic slavery, mass inequality, mass poverty, and into the next phase of technological development. This has nothing to do with the Government being our nanny as our Government needs to be reformed and recategorized into something completely transparent and far superior for *The People* regardless, so don't let something like the Government destroy our advancement as these changes will have to come full circle. I've done a few videos on this in the past and written many articles on my FB page where I discuss forward thinking ideas, you're welcome to join me if you'd like ~ Cheers.
@DavidTitus_
@DavidTitus_ 7 жыл бұрын
Is a work or die system humane with few essential jobs? No. And does it encourage desperate unethical behavior against people and the planet? Yes. And for God's sake, is forced luxury always more important than freedom and peace? Hell no. Will everyone lose their motivation to live a helpful live if they don't have to starve, of course not. Look around, people are do and meaning addicted. Companies also already make so much profit of their free resources and land and the modern technological understanding, the people deserve to be compensated to at least be able to live and not slaved out for unsustainable stressful unsustainable luxury.
@DomJohn89
@DomJohn89 7 жыл бұрын
You can tell from the cynical comments on this video that the world is not prepared for such a humanistic idea as this. No surprise there.
@3maneqwerty1
@3maneqwerty1 7 жыл бұрын
It's not that it's not ready it that this idea doesn't work, where does the money come from? How does it affect other economic factors? There are many variables that this negatively affects, this is why pure socialism and communism fails and why most state that tend to lean closer towards socialism are poor compared to capitalistic powerhouses like the US. Many economist have went over the concept and have concluded that it would increase economic inequality. It sounds nice in theory but in practice anything close has failed. First off you'd need a surplus of money to start this and that would inevitably lead to budget cuts. The people enforcing these rules won't take a cut and corporate offices will just leave (rich people tend to allow their business entity to house all their money to avoid taxes and are selective about how much they allow themselves personally so they'll probably get away with some nifty loopholes) the burden will be put on the works that will now be overly taxed which will cause riots and or cause inflation to make up what is lost in taxes. Inflation makes things too expensive which means they need to increase the BUI which means taxes and inflation which means more UBI which becomes a never ending cycle Until we are dead broke like Venezuela. We should just help one another without fucking mandates, work together to build housing for the poor and provide them some basic needs as a fucking community. Human kindness would solve these issues without having to forego the fundamentals of economics.
@DomJohn89
@DomJohn89 7 жыл бұрын
3maneqwerty1 there are definitely variables that have to be ironed out and I'm sure it would be far from perfect but that doesn't mean it couldn't help different sects of people more than the current system
@DomJohn89
@DomJohn89 7 жыл бұрын
Emre A. Some might say capitalism and the apparent wealth distribution , combined with the tax laws currently in place, are equally parasitic.
@danielgozdolek9517
@danielgozdolek9517 7 жыл бұрын
@Officialdomj you mean communistic idea...
@3maneqwerty1
@3maneqwerty1 7 жыл бұрын
@Officialdomj If you're looking for the government to assist people in this capacity then you mistake what government is truly for. It's only purpose is the prevention of chaos/provide order. We should be allowed to do as we please freely (within reason) and that will naturally lead to some people in shitty positions and some people in really good positions in life. We however need to have the freedom to make those decisions, it comes with responsibilities and consequences. The current system will allow anyone that does the right thing to succeed but you are free to decide if you want to make those choices. What will help is people deciding to be kind by their own intent and not some overbearing entity forcing people to do so. Also the massive over inflation and overall economic destruction is a much worse circumstance than what exist at the moment, money has to come from somewhere so it will always go back to the inevitable downward spiral that supposed free stuff puts us in. Capitalism has always, throughout history, proven to be the best system for everyone. Even pure hunting, gathering and trading of goods instead of currency is capitalism and back then you wouldn't even be able to get people to accept socialist concepts, no one wants to give up part of their deer meat against their will to someone they don't know without a even trade off.
@MrAykut23
@MrAykut23 7 жыл бұрын
When the lighting is someone waving a flashlight.
@r.m8146
@r.m8146 7 жыл бұрын
Basic income will be an absolute necessity within the next 50 years.
@ab0032
@ab0032 7 жыл бұрын
Not true. Only if government fucks up free markets even more.
@r.m8146
@r.m8146 7 жыл бұрын
@ab0032 5~15% of all human labor will be lost in the next 15 years, maybe you have better ideas to solve this upcoming crisis. Until this point the only idea to deal with it is UBI.
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
R. m WAY SOONER
@danielgozdolek9517
@danielgozdolek9517 7 жыл бұрын
"5~15% of all human labor will be lost in the next 15 years" ... why you think that will be "crisis"???
@balagtas1020
@balagtas1020 7 жыл бұрын
Dan ncti the 5 to 15% is not the number of people it's the number of jobs.
@steelblade310
@steelblade310 7 жыл бұрын
very informative. Finally someone speaks about the fear of automation!
@Cameron-rf9gt
@Cameron-rf9gt 7 жыл бұрын
I was actually pleasantly surprised by this talk. I assumed it was going to be one of those "we need more welfare" type of talks (which it kind of was), but she also talked about how this is a new concept and we need to be sure to test it thoroughly before jumping into something like this. I don't agree with the concept, but the talk was presented in a reasonable and levelheaded manner (which I think is rare for talks about things like welfare)
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
anybody ever use the self check out at Wal-Mart? pump your own gas? use ATM instead of EVER going to the bank? Do you ever buy anything on line? when you call a business do you have a REAL LIVE HUMAN BEING answer? SERIOUSLY
@umpqua-4freedom436
@umpqua-4freedom436 7 жыл бұрын
The news just tonite said it is predicted within 20 years all human work will be done by automation. UPS can process and deliver packages without humans. Without jobs, no taxes...so we better consider what ELSE we can do if we expect our kids to EAT. We create the world we live in...WE make the choices. And are RICH people considered worthless? Do they give up on their own hobbies and interests just because they are RICH? The notion that people will become lazy is just plain a LIE. Some might, most WON'T...moste people hate BOREDOM!! I agree with the data, basic income is a RIGHT, like water and food. Let's start making this a reality for our children!!
@calebsoto6941
@calebsoto6941 6 жыл бұрын
why are people getting mad they gave people 3 usd per month and it made their quality of life so much better. people don't understand that a little can go a long way especially in places like india
@saheb0007
@saheb0007 5 жыл бұрын
I will support you for it for end of my life... please help ppl..they lose their property now they are in poverty... everyone should be get basic stuff..it's needs
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 3 жыл бұрын
Working for fear of starvation has no place in the 21st Century. Yet here we are, two decades in and it's still the main drive. A UBI should have been introduced worldwide on the 1st of January 2000 a sign that we are advancing as a species. To the people who think that everyone will just sit around drinking, I think that's a reflection of what THEY would do themselves, and even then they most likely wouldn't. Motivation, not desperation - that's the key! At the moment we're just wasting global potential while a few people get rich.
@aakashjoshi28
@aakashjoshi28 7 жыл бұрын
What an attractive and articulate young lady. Glad the country'a future is in such good hands. Keep it up beta
@CookingLessonsforDad
@CookingLessonsforDad 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is the rescue plan for when the economy collapses. Where will all this money come from?
@Koks321Koks
@Koks321Koks 7 жыл бұрын
From your payday 90% tax looks nice i think. Remember! Equality ist gut.
@momentary_
@momentary_ 7 жыл бұрын
The money comes from either taxing businesses that implement automation or from government-owned automation directly. Automation eventually replacing all jobs is why basic income is being considered today.
@darekarraul
@darekarraul 7 жыл бұрын
awful lighting.
@adamaj74
@adamaj74 7 жыл бұрын
And if didn't help that she kept moving back and forth out of it.
@pclarizio
@pclarizio 7 жыл бұрын
I was a stage lighting tech for many years. Occasionally there is "talent" that will throw a hissy fit when the spotlight is in their eyes.
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@billjoe39
@billjoe39 7 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the "Swiss experiment' was intentionally sabotaged.....the amount theoretically to be 'divied out ' there was way too high to appease the public fears, and alarmists quickly raised the concern about the country falling into bankruptcy. Not sure how they bungled that test but hopefully the studies in Finland and elsewhere will show better results
@swastikdas5675
@swastikdas5675 7 жыл бұрын
speaker look like Deepika Padukone. very nice speaking
@gontye1
@gontye1 4 жыл бұрын
In developing and underdeveloped economies it should be planned in some areas like consession on electricity consession on medicine gas bill water bill or even free mobile recharge or else it will end up in consumption of alcohol or tabacco.
@grahampalmer
@grahampalmer 7 жыл бұрын
I have heard of this concept, but only in the last year or so. On the face of it, it sounds like a good idea. I do think that everyone deserves a minimum quality of life that could be provided by introducing such a scheme. I have a question though. Has anyone evaluated how the level of social 'benefit' will be determined. Perhaps as a % of a countries GDP? If governments commit to this 'benefit' will it be sustainable across different political tenancies ie what protections, if any, will need to be in place in order to ensure a new government doesn't just kill this, in some cases, life saving policy? If for instance it was rolled out across the whole of India what would it cost? Surely someone looked at this before even carrying out the trial this speaker refers to.
@ab0032
@ab0032 7 жыл бұрын
Socialists just want to live off other peoples work and money.
@r.m8146
@r.m8146 7 жыл бұрын
@ab0032 You see the problem with using talking points of the WWII:"live off other peoples work." We're talking about automation child which by definition is not a "people."
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
ab0032 President Nixon made SOCIAL SECURITY available to everyone. Is that a good idea? it's 40 years later and all retirees receive this. should we repeal this?
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
i think it will be connected to avg wage in each country and/or cost of living/poverty line in each country. One of the points of UBI is to be the means by which people are lifted out of poverty. Also it doesn't have to cost the state. They can nationalise banks and use the interest income being generated by the banks or they can quantitative ease and just 'print money'. Much existing social budget gets transferred into ubi, higher progressive taxation on the top 10% or a higher flat tax for everyone.
@ancientkid1635
@ancientkid1635 5 жыл бұрын
ANDREW YANG 2020
@PacificPleb
@PacificPleb 7 жыл бұрын
Here is the summary of her talk - If you give people money, they will spend it on stuff. So innovators in society should give everyone money. How about telling us what we actually need to hear though? For example, how much would it cost in taxes and what would that mean if implemented "universally" instead of just with a few people?
@44SirLoopalot
@44SirLoopalot 7 жыл бұрын
cmon u haters. inform yourself about the topic before spiting out pre judgement. basic income is not meant to take away freedom or the chance to make a fortune. in fact, it is about less government. the idea is to cut away the agencies which control the social programs in a state, and take the billions of $ or € from their former budget which now are saved to give it directly to the people. the amount given to every citizen should be enough for basic needs, but who ever wants more from live than just a warm place and food and healthcare still needs to work. and ppl will work, and they will still be able to make a fortune. by just parroting "comunism" because you heard it from a corporate right winger, you just proove that you are uninformed and not able to think outside the box. just like all other sheep.
@Chocolatelline
@Chocolatelline 7 жыл бұрын
The experimentation of UBI is in process in Finland since the end of last year if i remember correctly. 2000 individuals get 560€ monthly tax-free for 2 years, interesting to hear that it's been experimented elsewhere as well! As an idea it sounds great but the experimentation has received a lot of critique due to its small scale and also the amount of subsidy given. They've also stuck to the problem of students and especially those just over 18 who are still living at home; that 560€ income would be massive for them. But again removing the right to get UBI from youth kind of harms its original goal. All in all im carefully positive about UBI being introduced. Public services are expensive, taking care of the poor is expensive and people get trapped out of work because (at least in Finland) the unemployment subsidy is ironically too high to make getting a low-end job worth taking it. This could solve some of my country's problems but its in desperate need of careful experimentation!
@Pradeepkumar0369
@Pradeepkumar0369 6 жыл бұрын
What if companies left, inspite of paying more taxes?
@lostchilds2541
@lostchilds2541 7 жыл бұрын
i think also everyone good feeded makes smarter and more stable civilatation where the road isnt that violent as it now seem to be going ..
@resonantconsciousness9248
@resonantconsciousness9248 7 жыл бұрын
i don't have to worry about my income because im on benefits, i don't drive as i cant afford to learn let alone afford petrol and tax etc.
@vthilton
@vthilton 7 жыл бұрын
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
@vKarl71
@vKarl71 7 жыл бұрын
That spotlight is way too narrow.
@johnellis7614
@johnellis7614 6 жыл бұрын
BASIC TAKING ------ BASIC INCOME ------ BASIC GIVING BASIC TAKING is capitalism, with everyone considering themselves the most important and striving to be enriched upon the misery of those less educated. A system with no need or ability to have compassion, pity, charity or a grateful response. BASIC INCOME is socialism, mutual gratification with everyone considering themselves equal, everyone giving equal and getting equal in return. Again, a system with no need or ability to have compassion, pity, charity or a grateful response. BASIC GIVING is the moral fabric of society, where everyone considers others more important and because of this feels most guilty if ever they miss an opportunity to have compassion, pity and charity for those with less, and in a way that produces a grateful response.
@AholeAtheist
@AholeAtheist 7 жыл бұрын
Don't worry.. Energy and telecommunications companies in western countries will still outsource their call centers to India.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
not for much longer has automated/robot/bots get more sophisticated soon all call centres will be sims.
@aeoleousannai
@aeoleousannai 7 жыл бұрын
okay so I blame Google Talk. I want to be able to correct my statements from earlier. we live in a society as a whole where technology and science are really helping us. There really is no need for a monetary aspect unless you're just really greedy. and by allowing for this basic income it really is a way of saying that you're so poor we won't change our standards so we'll just give you this money and you just do what you will with it. I honestly don't think that that is a effective way to handle the situation that is at hand. if the most wealthy of us would actually give like they're supposed to even if it was a way for you to be part of taxes that people were giving like they're supposed to then a lot of the things like homelessness etc and unnecessary other things that happens in the world would not really be happening. But you have individuals who are strictly for themselves Ergo the reason why everything is so lopsided. but I still say that there's no need for a monetary aspect we live in a technology scientific type society that is really helping us there's really no need for us to work or do anything really except for her to raise our children and be part of our families.
@akshaykhairnar1747
@akshaykhairnar1747 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but she reminds me Dipeeka padukone
@juanesmit8417
@juanesmit8417 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, not sure if this ideas are naive or inmature. Humanity doesnt need more technology or nany states that gives us everything, humanity needs to wake up and reach its true potential by selfawareness and selfdevelopment from inside us, not from the outside. To real humans, current technology is a cruth, money is a drug and fear is a leash. Good journey.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
ubi will be key to unleashing creativity once we're freed from drudgery of wage-slavery.
@vashti2389
@vashti2389 7 жыл бұрын
she sounds like Prianka Chopra
@xiongpaolee
@xiongpaolee 5 жыл бұрын
The spotlight guy tho...
@billmasters385
@billmasters385 7 жыл бұрын
Of course this is a good idea. If everyone receives it, then who could complain? You don't like it? Hand me yours and STFU.
@Thytos
@Thytos 7 жыл бұрын
What's up with the spotlight? The guy who controlled it had one job!
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 6 жыл бұрын
I know, everyone else is doing fine but he just keeps FUCK'N UP!
@rehanulhaque6266
@rehanulhaque6266 7 жыл бұрын
COMEDY with SHEEL on youtube
@manishrex1
@manishrex1 7 жыл бұрын
This is just like the no detention policy we had in schools... Say NO to universal basic income
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
that is apples and oranges dude...pure straw-man
@ashishnigam10
@ashishnigam10 7 жыл бұрын
बेसिक इनकम गरीबो को दी जाने वाली दूसरी सब्सिडी, फ्री फ़ूड स्कीम की तुलना में अच्छा आईडिया हो सकता है।
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
ever heard of technology? robots? what kind of job do you have...and for how long will you have it? WHAT IS TO BE DONE WHEN THERE IS NO JOB? how should we as a society exist?
@ab0032
@ab0032 7 жыл бұрын
When robots do more, things become cheaper and you need to be less productive to survive. No reason to create a universal welfare state which destroys all incentives to be productive. No need for a total nanny state.
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
ab0032 again I pose the exact same question WHERE ARE HUMANS SUPPOSE TO WORK TO EARN MONEY TO LIVE WHEN TECHNOLOGY AND ROBOTS DO THE JOB?
@pradipgayen5308
@pradipgayen5308 5 жыл бұрын
J
@rantym35
@rantym35 4 жыл бұрын
Company you can replace me with a robot but you have to pay me to consume your robot produced items
@joelhc9703
@joelhc9703 7 жыл бұрын
What if they stop giving the basic income suddenly? Bye.
@gabkoost
@gabkoost 7 жыл бұрын
People would get what they deserve. Workers would get rich. Freeloaders would become real bums.
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
Then people would be no worse off then they are now....any more snappy questions?
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
people would get what they "deserve"....are you living in reality dude? many people at or near poverty levels work everyday to get by. to call them bums and say they "deserve poverty" is just typical right-wing jackassery. If capitalism is so great and flawless, then why do we have poverty with so many working poor who go to work everyday and sometimes even have more than one job too????
@michaelbarton2549
@michaelbarton2549 7 жыл бұрын
>Actually this naive. They're building a prison around you, and you don't even realize it.
@iamvikramsandhu
@iamvikramsandhu 7 жыл бұрын
All examples are of poor people. Tell me when you transfer that amount in an account of well to do person what will he do? Just another free meal at five star hotel. So now you want to snatch subsidies from poor to give money to everyone. Your calculations are based on prices which have subsidies included in them. Raise those prices add the strain it will put on already strained supply chain and then tell me who will benefit from it? We already have a population to feed. Subsidy and PDS has problems but increasing their efficiency is the only solution. Come out of your dream world.
@sreekrishnakoppuravuri3920
@sreekrishnakoppuravuri3920 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone can get the basic income according to my plan. Generally, governments won’t accept this system saying that there is no money for it. But, according to my plan this can be done without any disbursement from governments for this concept.
@Supadubya
@Supadubya 7 жыл бұрын
11:45 "which I was a part if, so I know that It's the only one". FALSE. There have been MANY trials of UBI, in many countries around the world. The earliest experiments occurred in the US and Canada in the 1970's. Just because she was a part of a single set if trials doesn't mean she knows the complete world history of UBI...
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
Ignoramus she is.
@icefkncold
@icefkncold 5 жыл бұрын
pretty sure she was speaking on UBI trials specifically in India but.. ok hate away
@shivamrajput8387
@shivamrajput8387 7 жыл бұрын
oh! this is a buzz around the world,btw its an allowance in real sense.Why we are not thinking about giving salaries to robots for their owners in an indirect way.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
well corporations will always have advantage to own robots so worker-surrogate robots receiving salaries ain't going to fly. What govs can do is put a tax on robots so that even though it will still be cheaper for a corp to use the robot than a worker the state still gets tax income.
@larissal3013
@larissal3013 7 жыл бұрын
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@kennygroth4938
@kennygroth4938 7 жыл бұрын
Basic income is a bandage like response to poverty, while its the government which holds people within poverty. There's nothing wrong with poverty, it's the inability to escape poverty which is the problem. It's the middle class which pulls the poor up, and it's the wealthy which are using the government to destroy the middle class. I have nothing wrong with businesses doing everything in their power to gain a profit, but the government gives them the power to dictate legislation for their advantage.
@wohdinhel
@wohdinhel 7 жыл бұрын
Kenny Groth >there's nothing wrong with poverty lol ok
@kennygroth4938
@kennygroth4938 7 жыл бұрын
wohdin if people werent stuck in poverty then poverty wouldn't be so bad, and the people in it would have a way out.
@willfullyinformed
@willfullyinformed 7 жыл бұрын
Universal Basic Income is the only way forward with automation, period, otherwise you'll just continue technological suppression on a mass scale to keep menial-meaningless jobs so that people can "come out of poverty" - this is a catch 22. I know this is difficult for some to comprehend but as people evolve mentally and understand the grander scope of their situation - money will become what it really is, worthless green paper and will no longer require green paper for basic necessities like cancer research or mass quality of life improvements. You have to look at the grander scale, not just the confined box of the human economic game that you've been conditioned to believe is the only way.
@Ancel7
@Ancel7 7 жыл бұрын
As long as there's a 1% that has the majority of the influence or resources, there'll be no peace at all.
@garyoz
@garyoz 7 жыл бұрын
Give 'Paradise or Oblivion' a look, just for argument sake.
@hebegebes1785
@hebegebes1785 7 жыл бұрын
I like communism- wheres my ubi
@TheHimu30
@TheHimu30 7 жыл бұрын
check this channel out
@rampagebuddy1969
@rampagebuddy1969 7 жыл бұрын
If you give me a basic income and take care of my parents, siblings and children in every possible necessary dimension, I would just buy a kickass computer and a good internet connection, then play and enjoy my life till i die in my couch. Thanks to free doles I wont have to worry about my cremation either.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
ubi would be only benefit you get so you would still have to pay fro cremation lol
@DaveWard-xc7vd
@DaveWard-xc7vd 5 жыл бұрын
Poverty is caused by incompetence.
@lvluptoaverage52
@lvluptoaverage52 7 жыл бұрын
I come from a poor place and at first it sounds great. this idea might work on poor hard working families. they want and try to improve their lives. but give free money to people that don't know the meaning of that and it's the worst thing you can do. I see it all the time in the USA. walfare takes the will of people to improve their lives. only hard working people should get it if they call into problems.
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
been proven not to be the case by and large....people with extra cash to spend tend to buy things they need and for their kids. education improves, health improves, and business are flush with customers who have cash pay them.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
welfare creates the welfare trap as as soon as you earn a bit you lose all or most of your benefit, with ubi every bit of work you do betters your position. it's not free money, it is the social dividend returning to the citizen of economy. When an economy does well it should not just benefit the top 10% but the society as a whole. UBI helps with creating more 'velocity of money' which helps economy grow. More money spent by bottom/middle means more consumption means more business means more production, more profit and maybe some more jobs thus creating a cycling of wealth in economy rather than trickle up to moribundness..
@zuilok
@zuilok 7 жыл бұрын
This would be so unfair, and I´d abuse this system as much as I possibly could!
@SaltVinegar2010
@SaltVinegar2010 7 жыл бұрын
zuilok How would you abuse it?
@light-work
@light-work 7 жыл бұрын
zuilok And why would it be unfair?
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
how could you abuse it lol. As an individual entitlement no way to defraud state. Only way to abuse it is just to do nothing and sit on bum spending the money on drugs/alcohol/prostitutes etc ...But that's okay though coz the money is getting circulated in economy so those who provide for vices get money which they'll spend thus circulating it around further. UBI brings back money from the top back down to the bottom/middle which then feeds it upwards again by buying stuff/services which improve profits for companies and hopefully leads to a few more jobs as well. How would it be unfair lol? The UBI is 100% fair because everyone gets it.
@remixtapes9308
@remixtapes9308 5 жыл бұрын
Zuilok Why would it be unfair?
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
welfare. foodstamps. social security. disability. pention. if you don't get free money IT'S ONLY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS CORRECTLY.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
ubi simplifies things immensely. no hoop jumping, no incentive to fraud, no disincentive to work via benefit abatement/cessation, no bureaucracy of form-checkers, overseers, no possibilities of rorting system by those intelligent enough to 'game' it.
@joannemercader9346
@joannemercader9346 7 жыл бұрын
if I own a business my goal is to make a profit if you force me as a business owner to pay an employee because Everyone needs money therefore a job YOU STEAL FROM ME MY FREEDOM TO CHOOSE
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
i think you've misunderstood ubi lol. UBI does not force employment, it enables people to choose more freely the kinds and amount of work they do.
@hazelrah321
@hazelrah321 7 жыл бұрын
because money falls from heaven
@PreciousBoxer
@PreciousBoxer 6 жыл бұрын
It's printed from trees at the Federal Reserve. The ones that fall from heaven are 1s and 0s commonly found on any Matrix screensaver. Money used to manipulate people through minerals, and in many ways still does. Every currency is a pyramid scheme. Ever hear about the tulip economy? We've all been Punk'd.
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 7 жыл бұрын
Universal Welfare: Building a bigger, more powerful nanny state to cripple the future, by design
@r.m8146
@r.m8146 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, let's just create a few more billionaires with automation and let millions of disenfranchised workers starving. GREAT
@Ancel7
@Ancel7 7 жыл бұрын
You can choose to work if you want to earn more money. You have to consider how widespread unemployment is, especially in third world countries. People are born into poor families and can't afford to be anything more than a factory worker. I'm not saying there's not a hidden agenda, but the current system is far too corrupt and bankrupt to exist.
@adamaj74
@adamaj74 7 жыл бұрын
+Shaolin Fantastic Everyone can't be millionaires.
@SaltVinegar2010
@SaltVinegar2010 7 жыл бұрын
Shaolin Fantastic I know far more self employed people who are nowhere near millionaires than I do who are millionaire's. Your comment is ridiculous. Any big company needs workers to run it, otherwise the company doesn't exist. Most people are not in a position to be self employed & many would not even know where to start. You must be a self made millionaire yourself then?
@danielgozdolek9517
@danielgozdolek9517 7 жыл бұрын
How someone can become a billionaires if "millions" will have no money to buy his products?
@AholeAtheist
@AholeAtheist 7 жыл бұрын
I find it really ironic that I'm listening to an Indian talk about UBI, when Indians are coming to my country undermining my ability to barter for better wages and working conditions. How about a one or two child policy too, preferably one in India. REMOVE ROGAN JOSH
@CV_CA
@CV_CA 7 жыл бұрын
She discovered Communism, wow! 10 thousand Rupees is = to 154 US $.
@unfadingbus
@unfadingbus 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing in life is free. Work for what you have, the government isn't a charity.
@gKreator1
@gKreator1 7 жыл бұрын
how about you just stop taxing?
@MrSoldat
@MrSoldat 7 жыл бұрын
OMG not this bullshit again...
@geraldmerkowitz4360
@geraldmerkowitz4360 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody is forcing you to be here pal.
@gabkoost
@gabkoost 7 жыл бұрын
Neither are you forced to be here an read all the comments taking a crap on this stupid idea. Get back to work.
@danielgozdolek9517
@danielgozdolek9517 7 жыл бұрын
@Archibald Belanus But you are "planning" to steal money from our pockets for that UBI....
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
Stealing??? the theft is comming from the %1 systematically extracting wealth from the lower 99% by a rigged so-called economic system. If you really want to complain about stealing, talk to the big banks who get what is called 'quantitative easing'. ffs-
@ab0032
@ab0032 7 жыл бұрын
She should learn some economics.
@kuriousitykat
@kuriousitykat 6 жыл бұрын
so should you lol.
@powerofanime1
@powerofanime1 7 жыл бұрын
My, what delusions she has.
@danielgozdolek9517
@danielgozdolek9517 7 жыл бұрын
We had similar "experiment" in our history called - communism, we have also huge experiment called - "european union" - similar to previous one but using quite different methods. ... from who you want take money for this "experiment", who have to work harder to put money for other people? why people have to spend their life to work for some one else profit??? Why You think that i should spend my time in work for some one else - not spend this time with my family for example? Or maybe you have "free" money to give to all citizen? Why just humans can have some stupid ideas? Why you want treat peoples like pigs - each pig get every day Universal Basic Food Portion, same like cows, chicken.... Do you think is really time for humans now???
@Peekalum
@Peekalum 6 жыл бұрын
UBI NO NO NO UBI will create a permanent underclass. There is no such thing as a free lunch. A "free" gift is NOT free. In return for a "free" thing, the person trades their pride in themselves for the "free" thing. When young (4yo) father died and no help from relatives. "Good" people came around and gave us "things" like food, clothes, toys, etc. along with the subtle "oh you poor thing, you can't make it on your own, here is some canned goods we will never eat or clothes we no longer wear, etc, we'll take care of you, just stay in your home, we'll come to you, etc" The key is being "subtle". Regardless of how "good" a person is, the attitude is still there and the gap gets bigger and the underclass grows.With UBI, what will happen is that some people will take "Mike's" and Sally's" UBI and have more money. Think kid's lunch money on a larger scale. How about protection racket? How are you going to police this? Oh, deposit directly into Mike/Sally's bank acct? So now Mike pays directly for protection.Now try removing/reducing UBI. That will be a good way to start a class war.Currently, a form of UBI is being tried and is known a entitlements. The real purpose is that a vote is expected in return for receiving any form of entitlement. But the politician only thinks ahead to the next election. Stupid.Still want UBI? Then couple it with a trade. Receive a UBI payment and get a shot that prevents pregnancy for 2-3 years for both men and women. If you want kids, then plan for it and get a job and save for it. UBI starts at puberty, ends at death, and also stops at pregnancy for both man and woman....and starts again, for the parents, once the kid is 4+ years old. The objective is to reduce the population and minimize the size the of the under class. Also, no limits on how UBI is spent. It is up to the individual to pay for food, shelter, clothes, drugs, health care, etc. If some people are concerned about the "poor" druggies, people, then they can pay to help them out of their own UBI, NOT from any collected taxes, or from my UBI..
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726
@voteclassicprogressivelibe2726 6 жыл бұрын
and we already have the permanent under class...except a UBI would give them a floor for basic survival to perhaps rise above a poverty level into the wealth dream.
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