Experimental Video Game Sequels

[@GermanPeter]

Welcome to my first real video since my return to KZbin! In this one, I analyse a form of video game sequel that doesn't really build on concepts established in the prequel, but instead takes things in a different direction entirely. But that doesn't mean it's bad, on the contrary in fact! My 3$-patrons were able to watch this video one week ago, as that tier gives you early access to new videos. In fact, they're able to watch next week's video today as well! If you're interested, consider helping me out! www.patreon.com/GermanPeter Also, please consider sharing this video with other people if you've enjoyed it :) Thank you!

[@Small_child_punter]

Your mascot is so clean and iconic. It sure does it’s job.

[@themechbuilder6171]

i like its art stlye... reminds me of nose art...

[@SIBERIA617_]

I can see all of the effort that went into this, really cool!! Also good luck to you and any future projects and videos you decide to make, Keep up the great content man :))

[@GermanPeter]

Thank you!

[@lauram.g.4998]

This video really makes you think about its topic! I'll be thinking about experimental sequels for a while after watching this :D And that ending... man. It resonated with me. It's good (and important!) that we actively search for what's fulfilling and makes us happy. I'm really glad you're back, Peter. Genuinely. I'll be SO looking forward to watching your content again, your creations are very valuable and I hope they bring you happiness and recognition, because they really deserve it. Good luck on this new stage of your life! also first lol

[@badwater5576]

bro how is your comment from 5 days ago ?

[@LitRyt]

@@badwater5576 I assume that he's an early supporter and could watch the vid 5 days in advance.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

this should have been called "The Experimental Nintendo Game Sequel"

[@eezack1]

To me one of the highlights of this type of sequel is Jak II. Not only because of the darker, edgier atmosphere and story, the GTA-style city driving or the guns, but because of how many of these changes actually build upon the previous game. The platforming is still the same as in Jak 1, with the same moves as before, and the gunplay is meant to be combined with the older melee combat: for example, firing after punching an enemy to instantly rev up your minigun, using your shotgun to boop enemies off the map, or performing the infamous air spin attack trick. It takes many ideas from the first game and combines them with recent trends to create a game that is unlike any other, and even if it doesn't work sometimes (unfair checkpoint scarcity in some levels, excessive driving from mission to mission) I still love it for what it brought to the table.

[@jylietmaddyzpires2442]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! such a good point. i played the jak games with my cousin and brother growing up. jak and daxter we beat and left it alone, but jak ii was the game we played every single time together for like eight years. the different locations were much more interesting and the story was way better than its prequel. any thoughts on jak iii? at the time, i thought it was just meh, and i never beat it unlike the other two games. it just felt like jak ii in a more boring and desolate area for a while.

[@maxresdefault_]

Fawful's Minion once called the GBA port of SMB2 his favourite 2D Mario game, and the gameplay does look super interesting. I'd love to see an indie dev make a spiritual sequel.

[@PlayerCraft]

Hearing you talk about pikmin brought the biggest smile on my face, I was thinking about it the entire video! And yes, they were still working on it :)

[@Thelamestgamer01]

I saw the thumbnail and I already know it’s gonna be awesome

[@rensartpark]

💛

[@rotomfan63]

I think my favorites are the kind of games that have a little bit of both be effectively keeping all the old good stuff but modifying or adding so much more you can't really call it either of the first two sequel types you mentioned but it's not really full experimental.

[@MorkedUP1]

“Video games are good” I think that is now my favorite quote

[@wuhoh5274]

Something I find really interesting is sonic's experimental phase. Sonic heroes especially stands out to me

[@MetaKaios]

I'm not sure you can call it a "phase" if it's lasted for most of the series's lifetime.

[@Arcad3n]

I think my favorite experimental sequel is Sonic Advance 3. It’s the only game in the Sonic series where you pick 2 out of the 5 total characters to combine as a team and get unique ability combinations. And to compliment this, the level design was course-corrected from Advance 2’s downward slope levels encouraging blitzing through them without a second thought, into huge sprawling levels with lots of chao to find to reward exploration. It’s also the only Sonic game where the fastest character to pick is Tails! (with Sonic as the partner of course)

[@MetaKaios]

That feature is from Knuckles' Chaotix, though.

[@Arcad3n]

@@MetaKaios playing with two characters? Yes. Having unique ability combinations to try out for each combination, and actually getting to pick which ones you want? No.

[@TheFrantastic]

Don't mind me, just commenting to boost the algorithm for this KZbinr I've been following for years, and that I want to support now more than ever. For real tho, I've always loved your videos on Team Fortress 2, but I saw a lot of potential with the creepy Super Mario 64 one, and I'm glad you're going that route, don't get discouraged by the inevitable lower views, as long as you do what you love that's all that matters. Cheers!

[@GermanPeter]

Thank you very much! :)

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I'm in total love with this more introspective and produced kind of content, Peter. This sequel was definitely a step in the better direction.

[@crazyagile1808]

It's nice to see SMB2 get praised for once. It's my second favorite of the entire 2d platformer series (the 1st being NSMB).

[@badwater5576]

I really enjoy your new style of content and furthermore, fully support your decision to stop doing videos on tf 2. While it is a game that many fondly remember it's lack of updates means very quickly, one will run out of tf 2 content, depending on the style of tf 2 content they produce. My main point is, tf 2 is getting well.......stale, so it's good that you made the switch in content! And lastly, keep up the good work man!👍

[@devdre4491]

Love the startover already, covering somewhat unknown, yet interesting topics and exploring theese seems really fun! And connecting it with some life-advice was incredibly smart. Can't wait for the next videos and good luck on your new journey!

[@aazronzaz9654]

please more videos like this! i love how clean everything is in the video!

[@miguelarangogomez]

You had me very hooked and interested until the conclusion... Then you almost made me cry Welcome back!

[@YellowScar2014]

SMB2 actually happens to be my favourate in the series because of the grabbing mechanic, so it was fun seeing you discuss it.

[@gooeydude574]

I’d say one of the best examples of an experimental sequel is Wario Land 2

[@scr0ngle108]

Wario Land 1 is an experimental sequel to Super Mario Land 2 when you think about it too

[@vixenfox1910]

So that Pikmin 4 comment, eh?

[@GliYch]

I liked the video! It didn't even felt like 20 minutes passed, which is good! Can't really pin point to what is good other than "I like listening to GermanPeter he mixes jokes good with information" Soooooo... good video lol

[@racinracerxp8645]

Great video love this and will still enjoy your videos no matter what new things you want to try

[@calzadomestica]

This video is great, I'd love to hear your opinion on more unconventional sequels that were/are considered somewhat controversial (like Dark Souls 2 or GTA 3, for example)

[@GermanPeter]

Haven't played either, unfortunately. Though, I think Dark Souls 2 counts as an experimental sequel!

[@LitRyt]

Amazing video! I loved the editing, the music, the pacing, the topic and how it was explained, really solid video overall! You must've put a lot of effort in it and it shows. I haven't watched all that many of your vids back in the day, but I'm glad that you're back. Also glad that you're getting support from other creators like Sunnexo with the music, I really like it! I don't think quitting being a "tf2ber" for this type of "documentary-type" content was a bad idea. I wish you all the luck in your future career!

[@danger2236]

I'm glad that you had to eat your words for pikmin 4

[@ironraccoon3536]

I like this one! The thumbnail was especially eye-catching

[@goldfishbrain5003]

already lovin the new content!

[@Brigtzen]

PRAISE THE SUN! That should be enough for the algorythm

[@hyenatown]

Welcome back dude. :)

[@theviewerofthegolden270]

Great video, love the new direction! Looking forward to more

[@trickstab7903]

Your way of describing topics is absolutely phenomenal, though I first subscribed for tf2 stuff, I will 100% stick around for the new stuff, keep up the good work!

[@ruskah0307]

I'm only at game 1 but I just wanna say I think when 3D games were first made and companies wanted to cash in on 3D, a lot of them made a sequel of the third kind - for example, super mario world to super mario 64, very big difference even excluding the 3D movement and environments

[@sharinganmoon]

Peter, this video was excellent. Keep up the great work! Might I also suggest another sequel that departed from the first? Jak II. That game shifted even the theme of the game in a bold new direction, which helped build into the absolutely stellar Jak III.

[@Twisted_Logic]

A great start to the new dirction! Absolutely loving this

[@landimizer]

Loving the new video style, man! Looking forward to more.

[@talkandmockinggoblin960]

Excellent video Peter

[@DesolateLavender]

16:50 I wouldn't say that too loud. Pikman might hear you.

[@LuigiMan2401]

That last piece of fan art at the end cracked me up

[@thefakeminty1076]

great video mate

[@guybrush20X6]

One thing I find interesting is that Game Freak *claims* to be doing it with the Pokemon games by introducing one feature in a game only to drop it in the next. But I think that's more a case of limited dev time to only have one gimmick

[@greenyyx]

Really missed your content, man :)

[@SmileytheSmile]

Midnight Mercenaries 2 should be a turn based card game.

[@GorgSpinnens]

I mean, Midnight Mercenaries is basically an experimental sequel to Overtime.

[@pepijndouwma6816]

Looking forward to the new type of videos hope your story will be similar to Rt games story on youtube

[@ShaneFerrell]

You should play Kane and Lynch 2

[@Bendroo]

Amazing video essay 😊

[@eltiolavara9]

would half life 2 qualify? because wow is it different in feel and gameplay

[@GermanPeter]

Hard to tell, but I'd honestly say yes. The focus on physics was definitely experimental.

[@I0NE007]

I was impressed at how much closer the ties between Mario 2 USA has with Mario 3 than I originally understood. You still pick up things (before enemies then to shells and boxes) to attack but now have the option to jump or otherwise attack. Along with guiding the movement to be "primarily horizontal, with vertical secondaries" instead of the more "all up or all across" that Mario 2 had. My poster child for "It's doesn't feel like an expected sequel but it's still a great game" is Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts. Ignoring the artstyle (something I still can't really enjoy but will tolerate due to the Grid building matching the blocky visual), the main aspect of playing the game is still very fun. However, there are an incredibly amount of things that, as a sequel, do not work well. Sadly, I am not able to fully articulate those at the moment, and definitely not concise enough to fit within a decent KZbin Comment.

[@estebanreyes3785]

Damn nice video

[@thecrackedgasmask0071]

I can only put this one way: This video slaps

[@RocketRidge]

"You really still think pikmin 4 is in development?" Spoken from true wisdom, if only he knew the wait was only a little longer... Real talk though I found you from TF2, but your new style of content is in my opinion significantly more refreshing and interesting. Keep it up man, you're videos are awesome.

[@dr.lemmington9487]

that pikmin line aged poorly

[@aiensleyspice7661]

Love the new direction!

[@sporepics]

Can I say as an avid Pikmin 2 enjoyer that I highly disagree but also approve your likeness of the sequel's changes. The reason i disagree is because you mark pikmin 2 as the "odd one out" when in reality, all 3 games are vastly different from one another. Taking it's little brother pik 3 into account, it does take back the premise of the first game but it also uses mechanics from 2 while completely overhauling the physics/pikmin behavior/controls in general. Each entry has a unique flavor that takes a bit from each predecessor and mixes it up. Making all of them offer you a "best version" based on your preference alone. Which is why I appreciate all three to be honest.

[@sporepics]

Also pikmin 4 just got announced, so be sure to swallow every ounce of my specimen.

[@RainingMetal]

Star Fox Adventures followed the path of Super Mario Bros 2, though not nearly as successfully. I still find it to be a bit of an enjoyable game in spite of its rushed production and flaws, and it's still playable unlike the disaster that was Star Fox Zero (you listed one category as sequels that improves upon previous iterations. This game screws up upon previous iterations).

[@thisisasupersayin376]

Mario Kart Double Dash as an allegory for capitalism video essay when

[@PineappleDealer37]

In the Kingdom Rush series the second game was pretty much more of the same, but much much better. Regarded as the best game of TD series Third game was... ok-ish. They tried to change a lot of basic things, but they didn't really succeeded at making them feel good, tho they still kept the basics from first two games. It was pretty good game, tho I prefer the first two over it The fourth part is... Horrible. They went with the experimental sequel type for that. They really changed a lot of things from first two games, but the problem was - While the changes were pretty good ideas, the game ended up horribly unbalanced, with it's difficulty curve looking like a heath attack. They failed game balance so bad that they literally broke the entire game by it. And then there's the non td game which from what I know is great And the junkworld which we don't talk about because it dropped to even worse lows.

[@fluddsskark]

all of them are nintendo... do you think MGSPW or MGS2 would fit in the experimental video game category? MGSPW: A somewhat major title to MGS released after MGS4 but for PSP exclusively at first but later for XBox 360 and PS3 MGS2: The character switch after Tanker and the AI stuff that distorted with the player's perception of the game in the end

[@solforecast2101]

Oh my god fully animated peter What is dis

[@rompevuevitos222]

If anyone wished Zelda 2 was better, try Phoenotopia Awakening, it's heavily inspired by it, has similar difficulty and it's overall great, including the atmosphere

[@pikachu-uk1bg]

A great topic. Another example would be Final Fantasy 2. In that game, unlike any RPG, stats are based on actions. Everything levels on its own. This game too, is seen as the black sheep of the series. It's so.... different. Is it good? Pft, I don't think it's good. Why? The weakest enemies are just as useful as the strong ones. Have high defense? Attack yourself and now you have alot of HP, and the attacker gets more strength

[@ThymeHere]

So underated.

[@Mabra51]

Mario 2 is clearly the best old Mario game.

[@frimnpi7473]

what is the name of the music from 2:00 to 8:47

[@GermanPeter]

An original composition by Sunnexo, made specifically for my videos :)

[@frimnpi7473]

@@GermanPeter i see, does it have a name?

[@GermanPeter]

@@frimnpi7473 Not as of right now, no :)

[@sunnexo]

@@frimnpi7473 I ended up calling it "GermanPeter of Rally" because it was heavily inspired by the game Art of Rally lmao

[@Mabra51]

Mario 2 isn't Super Mario Bros usa, it came out in Europe too.

[@MetaKaios]

18:40 Why would you choose to show footage of a Waterwraith while talking about features "you really enjoyed"

[@LancerAccelerant]

How do you feel about Pikmin 4?

[@GermanPeter]

Good! Looking forward to it.

[@joko49perez]

Pikmin 4 :)

[@coadpop886]

Pac-Man

[@kilgoretrout4491]

Hey, why did you make the english 3 instead of the german 3.

[@jaded151]

you aren't going to be deleting your old videos though, right?

[@GermanPeter]

Of course not. They're going to stay up forever. At most, I'd unlist them or make them private, but that's not planned either.

[@jaded151]

@@GermanPeter ok thats nice! i really enjoyed this new video too btw! im just glad to get more vids from you, even if they're gonna be a bit different. i just hope you dont delete your older vids 'cause believe it or not they're actually what got me into tf2.

[@clunkyard]

comment for algorithm purposes

[@malcolmbou7775]

How about Roblox games or what Roblox calls,experiences, what's your opinion on those.

[@the_dart_one3105]

Yo

[@BabzaiWWP]

about the mario karts, they all control atleast a little bit different that makes them different games. Wii is also still the hardest one

[@rensartpark]

💛💙💛

[@RasTheIdiotKing]

That pikmen quote spoiled worse then milk

[@davidjiao2517]

What was the point of this video? What were you trying to prove. This is such a waste of time.