What sort of (giant) robot could I make with this?
@AIengine5 жыл бұрын
Some movie monster robot , like this 1:10 Full function remote control monster Mechanical robot vehicles from movie “ taijqi “ , Two robot arm builds by computer precision cutting stainless steel and aluminum, not only reconstructs the actual mechanical function accordance with excavators in reality, the details also decorated to reproduce the Steampunk style in movie design. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6PKgnmKiaxmd68
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
I thought about a T-rex! maybe something that can walk...
@AIengine5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbruton how it made here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3FnHmvm72LopY , I made a lot project for theme park too , thanks you for Inspired me a lot on your work .
@Kah76545 жыл бұрын
Don't do it. With pneumatics it wouldn't work out well. With hydraulics it may work but it's probably to expensive and to complicated. For small and middle sized robots (up to human size) BLDC motors are the way to go. And there are lots of things possible in this area which may even turn out useful. Why not for example try to build a useful robotics plattform which can move around in- and outdoor and then attach various actuators to it to do stuff?
@DoRC5 жыл бұрын
Something for the porn industry?
@TomStantonEngineering5 жыл бұрын
James! This has given me an incentive to try some more pneumatic projects!! I might be bugging you for a parts list soon. Thanks
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, sure let me know. Most of it was from eBay ;-)
@oliverdowning15435 жыл бұрын
Tom Stanton isn’t that basically like your air powered car or engines but on a larger, more expensive scale or should I be looking out for amazing new things on your channel?
@AcrimoniousMirth5 жыл бұрын
Ah, eBay... the friend of many a hobbyist!
@markferbert523 жыл бұрын
I have four bimbas for sale
@joneisenhower12975 жыл бұрын
you're mistaken in implying its the volume of each side of the cylinder that determines the force it can output. It is the surface area being acted upon, so the plunger side with the rod on it has less face for the pressure to act upon.
@ojsh_5 жыл бұрын
yes this is true. Force = Pressure x Area. Same pressure on each side of Piston, but less area on underside of Piston due to Piston Rod
@JohnDlugosz5 жыл бұрын
Yea, and adding more pressure increases the force. I think the limiting factors are how much pressure the cylinder can hold with the shaft extended, and the compression load strength of the extending shaft.
@Asphyr5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't really have control over else than the amount of pressure in the tank in this test. Important to know if he codes a system to take the surface area into count at different positions though
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
@@Asphyr The valves are only on or off, so no amount of coding will help me at this stage.
@Asphyr5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbruton I was thinking you'd need more "on" -time if it's carrying a load, but since you measure the position itself it kind of does that automatically.
@MrWilliam9325 жыл бұрын
well, one thing you might have your hands on is a 5/3 valve which is made especifically for double-effect cylinders and the middle position keeps all the vias closed, so maybe this could be a better solution. other thing is that you sould put the regulator in 9:43 at the output of both tanks if you are going to use both and put a manual valve between both of them to balance them out, the regulator is made to lubricate and filter the air from the tanks, It keeps the cylinder from deteriorate because of the particles and also makes it run a bit smoother because of the oil. there are ones called "Quick Exhaust Valves" wich make the cilinder return faster if you need it, also they sometimes come with sound mufflers. I hope you found this useful, and I cant stress this enough, Put the regulator, It will keep the system nice and clean, that is a MUST
@jayzo5 жыл бұрын
Boston Dynamics? Nahh... Bruton Dynamics.
@tobynmanthorpe5 жыл бұрын
You should attach this to an a-frame ladder, put ratcheted wheels (that only spin one way) on the legs and watch it go.
@RedSkyeDragon5 жыл бұрын
Industrial systems that use big actuators (of many kinds, usually pneumatic or hydraulic, sometimes motor driven) often have String Encoders attached. Essentially a high accuracy encoder with a spring-loaded drum attached, and a string around the drum. As the string pulls out, it rotates the drum/encoder, and as the machine retracts, the spring maintains tension on the string and the encoder does its job in the other direction!
@techtastisch75695 жыл бұрын
Hi james, you should really take a look at a 5/3 way valve, they also offer a locked position. Those that you have used are 3/2 way and are really only intended for use with single sided cylinders
@shravan19815 жыл бұрын
Wow, I always had these questions and felt the need to test... this setup gave a great amount of insight into the working and pros/cons. Thankyou
@Gallardo66695 жыл бұрын
People want so see james bruton building a lot of stuff for fun, nobody sees his capabilities and skill level to use it for real useful stuff. He should build devices and live enhancers for disabled people. This industry overcharge their patients anyway by far. A great way for james to do something helpful for the humams and make himself really really valuable to the world.
@christopherleveck68355 жыл бұрын
I bought an entire pallet of this stuff from a government auction. I still have no idea what to do with it all but I was told by the guy I outbid that I have EVERYTHING I need to make it all work except an air source.... I've got a nice big compressor in my shop though so problem solved. I just need to think of some epic project. I've got literally hundreds of different sized and types of cylinders.... Let the games begin. You have once again inspired me to build something crazy.
@payskate5 жыл бұрын
There are already electro-pneumatic valves for increasing and decreasing air flow for controlling the speed and curve. So no need to make them yourself, they are quite small and cheap
@rock-afire-fan5 жыл бұрын
actually the pneumatic servo valve that do exactly what you just said are quite large and expensive. A good servo valve costs around $1,000
@payskate5 жыл бұрын
@@rock-afire-fan i dont know about those ones. I'm guesing you are talking abou industrial high pressure or high air flow control valves. Because I remeber using some small servo pneumatic control valves back in uni and they were relitively small and like 70$ for one. They could handle up to 9 or 10 bar I think. It's not a lot but for what hes got in the video, that would be plenty. I maybe wrong
@q.sperling26935 жыл бұрын
"Festo"
@KamikazeWombat5 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking a ball valve attached to servo. Might not be good enough for a proper robot, but should be plenty good enough for testing purposes
@deepray74005 жыл бұрын
You could add a FCV (Flow Control valve like needle valve) combined with PCV (position control valve like 5/3 valve) for much better control I also recommend to use “automation studio” to simulate your system forehead There are also capacitive proximity sensors you could use for tracking position
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
Yes it's all a bit hacky at the moment
@GALEFORCETV5 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Inspirational man. As soon as I saw the speed of movement on OpenDog I though of pneumatics. My first experiments used 1 cylinder and 4 on/off solenoids rather than the Y solenoids (and a car tyre for air). All worked like your test except I could close all the solenoids so the cylinder didn't creep. I built a knee joint so just use a 10k pot in the angle for feedback. Then I discovered the Y solenoids, half the number of valves and drivers but picked up the mysterious creeping. Thanks for the solution. I now have one-ways on order plus more valves, cylinders and a compressor! Brilliant channel. Regards Steve
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
thanks - I'll have another video coming up on this soon
@MonsieurFlange5 жыл бұрын
Uploaded just in time for my train to work!
@Giblet5355 жыл бұрын
Hydraulics don't compress much, are very controllable, and the force is through the roof. Kubota makes some very nice compact diesel engines that are made specifically to drive a hydraulic pump. Any robot that can pick up a car and squeeze it into a ball is a proper robot.
@carmelpule69542 жыл бұрын
That is a good start with a basically bang-bang system with no load and the friction is so high to dampen the whole unit. I wonder how it would behave if a heavy load was applied to the output. Presumably, it would oscillate, and some velocity feedback would be necessary. I think it would do without integral control. Congratulations. One would have appreciated velocity control, acceleration control, and integral control. in addition to just the positional error sensor.
@richardbloemenkamp85325 жыл бұрын
There is a nice MIT article on the use of pneumatic actuators. They used it in a legged robot but complemented it with an electrical motor in the hip. You can search the net for "Model-Based Trajectory Control of Robots with Pneumatic Actuator Dynamics" by Ryuma Niiyama
@azertazert985 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to use 3 state valves, it could allow a more precise control and lower the number of switching required. (Eg: lock one side while adjusting the other)
@brk_can5 жыл бұрын
You should build a BIG exosuit with them :)
@bruceneely48595 жыл бұрын
yes revisit the exosit with what you've learned since you stopped the last one
@lukedavid80995 жыл бұрын
Let him finish a project or 2 first ;)
@bruceneely48595 жыл бұрын
@@lukedavid8099 finish a project? what does that even mean?
@lukedavid80995 жыл бұрын
@@bruceneely4859 hah lol
@AlsHackShack5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite videos of yours James. Really interesting, thanks for sharing.
@brycehartwick5 жыл бұрын
you should definitely do an aliens powerloader lol hacksmith is doing one so it would be cool to see both youtubers versions of it. If you do build one, I will absolutely be looking forward to watching!
@Kaxlon5 жыл бұрын
Hi James. Most linear actuators (air) have a small magnet inside. There are small hall sensors that attach to the outer body on a circular part of the extruded body. Those sensor only give end to end indication. Thought I drop that info here for future reference. Keep up the good work! =)
@charliecarpenter28403 жыл бұрын
Such a good video, clear and precise. Help move my project design along significantly.
@lufferov5 жыл бұрын
So what about hydraulics? Would be interesting to see a video discussing the pros and cons of hydraulics versus pneumatics.
@scrmnthn52335 жыл бұрын
Lufferov hydraulics is used for higher duty applications. It’s stronger and can carry more weight, but it’s heavy and takes up tons of space. In addition, it can’t keep up with the precision pneumatics have at high speeds.
@lufferov5 жыл бұрын
@@scrmnthn5233 but you can't compress the hydraulic fluid like you can compress air, so that would solve some of the issues?
@markplain25555 жыл бұрын
Boston dynamics uses custom made hydraulic actuators. That should be lesson to all of us as to what is the optimum drive mechanism for robotics.
@pauljs755 жыл бұрын
If you wanted something crazier, you'd could look into electro-hydraulic actuators. Something like a tilt-block pump (variable axial piston) moving the fluid with the direction and rate it pumps controlled by a servo, and powered by a constant speed motor. Then that can be directly connected to the piston it actuates. Trades some efficiency for a lot of available force in a compact size. I think that's the kind of system being used by many fly-by-wire aircraft, and it can be made more redundant than the older style hydraulics with lines routed everywhere. Springiness or damping can be done with a bit of extra valves like bypass, and perhaps adding an accumulator tank to the system. Might be interesting for robot stuff.
@warrenorman6005 Жыл бұрын
HI. Is there a way to speed up a linear accuarator other than the speed you bought? It take 20 seconds for my weather maps to move behind a wall I've made? Thanks.
@martynwelch31235 жыл бұрын
Based on your comparison between pheumatics and electrical actuators, I think you should really take a look at hydraulics. You can get much better positional accuracy with hydraulics (compared to pheumatics), hydraulics don't compress like pneumatic systems. They also tend to be a bit safer than high pressure pneumatics as they don't fail so explosively.
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
It will cost a lot more though due to the higher pressures involved. Proportional valves will be 1000+ each
@martynwelch31235 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbruton Fair enough, I'd not looked at the costs involved. With respect to pheumatics, I'd suggest one thing to consider very carefully if strapping it to someone would be failure modes - what happens if the feed to one end of a cylinder fails and the cylinder is quickly thrown to one of it's extents.
@nuklearwanze5 жыл бұрын
You don't have to work with higher pressures just because it's a hydraulic system. There are low pressure hydrolic switches on the market that don't cost a lot. Only REAL downside is that leaks get pretty messy with oil spraying everywhere.
@nuklearwanze5 жыл бұрын
Also: with hydraulics you only neet one valve. So the complexity of the system is halved.
@enginsci83075 жыл бұрын
what if using same equipment and configuration in the video but instead of air using water with moderate pressure
@mikeydk5 жыл бұрын
What you need, is a 5/3 valve with two solenoids. With no solenoids powered, it will be closed, power one solenoid, and it will change over to allow air to flow into one port, and release air out of the other. That air you will pass through a bleed valve so you can control the speed of the cylinder. Always control the speed of a pneumatic cylinder by restricting the air flowing out of the system. If you denergize the solenoid again and powers the opposite, the cylinder will move in the opposite direction.
@nerdydev Жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@SpencerPaire5 жыл бұрын
For proportional control, you could have a cam on a servo squeeze the tube. Sort of like a peristaltic pump, but it wouldn't revolve all the way around, just squeeze the tube in one spot. By rotating along an axis parallel to flow, you also wouldn't have to worry about the pressure trying to push the cam out of position.
@MrSwift25685 жыл бұрын
You could also control speed in code by creating a virtual input target that chases the actual input. Every loop of the code you would use some logic off the input pot to increment the position of the virtual input. Then use the virtual input as the target for the cylinder. The down side to this is that the cylinder would actually be pulsing to get to a position instead of going directly to it.
@Here_is_Waldo5 жыл бұрын
Alien's Power Loader! Yes! Play Rock-em Sock-em Robots with Bumble Bee.
@nuklearwanze5 жыл бұрын
Nice project. Btw there are fully integrated high-flow cylinder positioning systems on the market that do exactly that and can be controlled by a PCL. These are usually way cheaper and much faster than servo actuators. These systems often include pressure sensors so you can even apply a set amount of force.
@Marci1245 жыл бұрын
This makes me appreciate those Festo demo animals even more.
@maxtorque22775 жыл бұрын
V2P (voltage to pressure) proportional valves are available, that turn a 0-10v signal into a 0-10bar pressure output. But they are expensive. A sensible halfway house would be to just use 4 on/off valves , mounted with two at each end of the cyl, as close as possible to minimise the working volume, and use two of them as "fill" and two as "empty". This would allow the controller to independently modify the pressure in each end of the cylinder, and provide a much better fail safe situation (loss of power = all valves shut). A smarter control system, which now has 16 states (4 valves = 16 states) could easily use say 4 rules to determine the best operating order for the valves etc
@codemakeshare5 жыл бұрын
Instead of no-return valves, you could use 2 valves on each side: one to let air in, one to let air out. That way, you could control the pressure in both sides of the cylinder independently, and actively control the amount of compliance. It would also (theoretically) give you a way to do "regenerative braking", pushing air back into the reservoir when you backdrive a cylinder (e.g. landing after a big jump... ;) )
@World_Theory5 жыл бұрын
I don't much like compressed air for power storage, but it seems okay-ish for transmitting power and driving a mechanism. Not great, though. I think hydraulics are a bit better for robotics, if only because liquid fluids are less compressible than gas. I don't know how the prices of pneumatic versus hydraulic versus electric components of the roughly the same utility in robotics, compare to eachother. I do wonder how much cheaper the pneumatic stuff is, such that it would tempt you to experiment with using it for a robot, though. I wouldn't think it very practical for something that needs to carry its own power source. There's energy density, and then there's energy efficiency. Density affecting how much energy you can carry around without refueling. And efficiency effectively affecting how quickly you use what energy you have. Carrying extra weight around usually affects efficiency. So if pneumatic systems, powered by a tank of compressed air, have poor energy density, and add a lot of extra weight to a robot, that means they'll suffer from a double whammy hit to how long they last between refueling. And yet… There are some situations were they could still be useful! Situations, specifically, where time between refueling is not a problem, like inside a workshop, or warehouse, that has air compression stations for the purpose of maintaining a robot. In which case, you can look for other advantages that pneumatic systems might have over electronic systems. Perhaps pneumatic systems wear out slower? I don't know.
@paulb82645 жыл бұрын
May I be pedantic for a minute? When you had the valve Teed together you have the same pressure in both ends of the cylinder but different areas which yield different forces. Force = Pressure * Area. So you are correct in the in balance of forces causing it to be difficult to hold a position but it's not due to a difference in pressure.
@LesNewell5 жыл бұрын
Take a look at push fit fittings instead of barbs and Jubilee clips. They are quick to assemble and you can get a wide variety of non-return valves, flow restrictors etc in push fit - pneumatic Lego. I use them a lot for various projects.
@hfe18334 жыл бұрын
Finally I'm waiting for this kind of project,if you could make similar like this but smaller e.g. 1/3 of this cylinder size ok
@tavitlertritsumpun71605 жыл бұрын
Before jumping deeper into project, I suggest you study What is available in the pneumatic components. There are valves that will operate both in and out stroke within one component (5/3 valve). Also there are other gadgets built into the cylinder to feedback the relative position of the action (pushing or pulling). The easiest problem of the noise as the air is pushed out can be achieved using silencer. Unless you want to use what you already have available and not invest in any more component, then the solution may be impractical like 2 air tanks. Because of the weight involved in compressor and /or engine to run the compressor, doing moveable project is rather less feasible than stationery project.
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the solution is check valves like I said...
@TroyWuelfing5 жыл бұрын
Have you considered an air over hydraulic system for this? Fill the cylinders with oil and use air for the energy in the system. Also many cylinders have position indicator options you could hook into your Arduino. Keep making cool stuff!
@Karlemilstorm5 жыл бұрын
This is well worth all the Patreon money! This is fantastic
@sirmiro25 жыл бұрын
Connect both outlets and just use one valve there. There's just one open at any given time and should get less problems. You can even use the same statement/code for both directions. Less is more...
@PrasanthNivi3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to hold in a position of cylinder by using 5/3 Direction control valve
@trisunaryo73734 жыл бұрын
What type of selenoid valve and brand are you using ... is there a serial code or not ... I want to use the selenoid valve
@Morkvonork5 жыл бұрын
In an Robotics Book I have they use pneumatic actuators that run the cylinder against retractable pins in linear ways to position things. Though that is not proportional.
@jaba512 Жыл бұрын
Could you incoporate some kind of use for the bleeded air to reduce energy usage somewhere else? Your batterias are quite bloated. They have been through some good use 😄
@olivier6719885 жыл бұрын
once more, this is very very interesting !
@DoRC5 жыл бұрын
9:15 technically it's not because of higher capacity. It's because the piston face on the side without the ram has a larger effective area than the side with the ram as the ram takes up some of that area where it mounts to the piston face.
@dtec303 жыл бұрын
This project should be sponsored by smc pneumatics
@brendansimons68115 жыл бұрын
You don't need a motorized proportional valve, or even a non-return valve. If each of the solenoid valves you have opens and shuts quickly under PWM control, they can do the job themselves I think.
@Huderson Жыл бұрын
very cool! gained one more subscriber
@proteinman19815 жыл бұрын
By a reed rod, widely used in industry for hydraulic cylinders or a rotary encoder
@mossm7175 жыл бұрын
Why not put a pressure regulator on the higher power side + drop it down so it doesn’t move either direction?
@BenMitro5 жыл бұрын
Mr. B - you grock! Thanks for the vid and info.
@dieselphiend4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think of sim chairs when I see big actuators like that. How'd I'd love to have one that could do things like flip me upside down in a split second!
@mattdeshane24354 жыл бұрын
James Briton Thanks for the video. I have question re manual controllers. I have a press that actuates when two buttons are depressed. The shaft fully extends and then releases automatically after a short period of time. I would like to add a controller to the press so I can control the position as the shaft extends. Can you suggest the correct type of controller for this? Thanks. I have limited knowledge of pneumatic controllers.
@tando62665 жыл бұрын
I love it when the undergrad assumption of non compressible cannot be ignored.
@ryankraft98975 жыл бұрын
Hey James! Last year I was at the 2018 CSME International Congress (it's a Canadian engineering research conference) and actually attended a talk that addressed the problem you're trying to solve. The speaker proposed a couple modified algorithms that outperform current algorithms with low tracking error and much less switching that using PWM. Might be a good read or at least includes references that might help further this project. Here's a link to his paper: www.researchgate.net/publication/326305197_Direct_Switching_Position_Control_Algorithms_For_Pneumatic_Actuators_Using_OnOff_Solenoid_Valves
@willwise61975 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about trying to make an LVDT (linier variable differential transducer) for this setup? The basics are simple, three coils of wire in a half or full bridge setup. They're better for promotional control as there is no contact unlike pots, so they don't wear out.
@steverobbins48725 жыл бұрын
You should use a servo valve. Also, for control loop stability remember the cylinder is an integrator that determines the dominant pole.
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
yep that was the plan...
@prokletiuser5 жыл бұрын
9:15 it is same pressure, but rod takes some of area. So efective area of rod side is smaller, force is smaller, and it goes to one side.
@mrj.o45565 жыл бұрын
So satisfied
@trashsmither29603 жыл бұрын
You Just saved my life THANK YOU! :))
@mileswatkins216211 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the air cyclinder
@EitriBrokkr5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the "air over oil" concept. Just another thing that might be worth looking into
@guanzhouzhu75252 жыл бұрын
Can the air cylinder provide constant force?
@hownot2mill5613 жыл бұрын
Hi James would you think it possible to control both a hydraulic slew drive and a hydraulic cylinder simultaneously with an Arduino? controlled by joystick rocker buttons.
@LittleRainGames5 жыл бұрын
Would these be good for an injection molding machine? I just bought a hydraulic cylinder but im thinking this may have been easier, and possinbly cheaper approach.
@porpozontokonto91613 жыл бұрын
You could use double coil closed center1/2 5-3 directional control valve
@ainsleyhd720pg75 ай бұрын
How would you do this on a click plc?
@jostromp73805 жыл бұрын
If i am correct, the pressure is the same on both sides of the cilinder. But it is the surface that is different on both sides. So the pressure is not different, what I heard in the video
@kennethkindrich31143 жыл бұрын
i kno1 this video is 2 years old but its the only relevant and in depth video out there. i work mainly with electric actuators but i am planning on doing a quite large animatronic project and i want to use hydraulics. does all of this work with hydraulics or is it just used for pneumatics?
@robjones31325 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would be possible to put a return line into your holding tank so as the cylinder releases the air it goes back to the tank rather than wasted?
@das2502505 жыл бұрын
When you push against the cylinder are you programming the Arduino to let out the air on the side of the force to increase the force against the hand motion?
@ct-rex_37805 жыл бұрын
do you have the arduino program and how to make the circuit please i would really appreciate it Hann_Rex
@Varue3 жыл бұрын
Can you link this specific actuator?
@ahhegab25 жыл бұрын
Nice one, mate.
@icghost25 жыл бұрын
Thoughts: You could return to a single split source and place the regulator in front of the high side to balance directional pressures..your multiple air sources wont stay balanced, throwing any attempts to calibrate. Second - how much directional strength do you lose when this "braking" mechanism is active?
@kpare5 жыл бұрын
There are pneumatic speed controllers that are very cheap and since they are controlled by a screw it should be relatively easy to interface. Also there are pneumatic mufflers that cut down on the sound.
@fuzzydragoncosplay9555 жыл бұрын
I was actually looking into something last year that might be useful to you for this project. Servo controlled ball valves, and they are relatively cheap to make you just need a servo that has the torque to turn the valve. There are a few designs up on Thingiverse that you could look at to see if it would suit your purposes for restricting outflow.
@elleschanzer72844 жыл бұрын
how do you connect the pneumatic cylinder valve to the relay and then to the arduino
@bradleymarks19725 жыл бұрын
What about using the solenoid valves in reverse on the out flow to restrict the out going pressure...
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
I did that on the Transformers build to stop it crashing down of power failed. There are also multi-position valves that can do it.
@frankjames19554 жыл бұрын
lets say you wanted the cylinder piston to go back and forth by itself without you using the hand switch , how would you do that?
@criztofe5 жыл бұрын
Give Metalwork pneumatics in Milton Keynes a call, they have everything you would ever need.
@jameshancock2 жыл бұрын
If you added 2 more non return valves on the outlet one would think you could conserve the air too.
@rayz74845 жыл бұрын
I'm always watching ur videos
@dkkoala15 жыл бұрын
Im not a mechanical engineer so this is probably a stupid question, but why wouldnt he connect the two i/o ports, on the pneumatic actuator, to each other via some small two-way air pump and an inlet valve, and then pressurize the system through that valve. In that way the system would not lose any pressure by constantly blowing air out, and the actuator could still be moved by pumping the air from one i/o port to the other.
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
It would work but the air pump would need to be just as big as the compressor to drive enough force, and I'd have to wait for it instead of compressing the air in advance.
@dkkoala15 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbrutonAhh i see, then yes it wouldnt be a practical solution at all. Im a computer guy so i was just thinking of the very small water pumps that are used for water-cooling systems, but i guess the major difference is that they dont need to drive the water at a very high pressure. Thanks for the clear answer :D
@World_Theory5 жыл бұрын
If you were to only use a pneumatic system to transmit power to mechanical components in your robot, you could conceivably create a closed-loop system for the gas you use. If you do that, you could have the luxury of choosing what gas to fill the system with. You could use a heavier gas, like argon, or a lighter gas, like helium. Are heavier gasses hard to compress? I feel like that might be the case, but I can't think of any specific evidence of it in my memory. (Might be a quirk of my neural pathways.) I have doubts about the usefulness of a closed loop pneumatic system, compared to a purely electric system. Something has to motivate those air pumps, after all, and that's likely going to be an electric motor, unless you install an internal combustion engine, just to run an air pump. (I wonder how the energy density of ethanol compares to a lithium ion battery, when the ethanol is running a smallish average internal combustion engine. I heard somewhere that alcohol burn hotter than gasoline, though, and some engines don't handle this well.)
@Pentross5 жыл бұрын
If you jam some cloth or cotton wad in there before restricting the flow you’ll make it a lot quieter
@truetech41585 жыл бұрын
It would be possible to create a pressure cylinder that has a built in tank(s) in one or more segments of the cylindrical structure, and the 2 pressure valves could also built into the casted structure. This would allow for keeping things super light weight and also the placement of pressure sensors for more controlled accuracy within the walls of both cylinder/combination tank. Jim, it can be done!
@jamesbruton5 жыл бұрын
maybe, but you won't store that much air in there, ideally I need a much faster compressor to keep up with the bore size of the cylinders
@aznmonkeyboy.95 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to add hall sensors at the ends of the piston for distance measurement?
@-destroyingyouverbally76145 жыл бұрын
Man if only u was my neighbor , I feel your like the missing link to a project i Ben developing kinda sorta.
@trentw265 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I've spent years reading your name as Burton... It wasn't until you said your name that I realized I was wrong.
@Robothut5 жыл бұрын
Time to build a home VR deck to ride on ! Water hydraulics might be better as they do not compress.
@coledavidson5630 Жыл бұрын
How much did that compressor cost you?
@MarkleZephire5 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you can't recycle the compressed air somehow? Into a rubber bladder? Less load on the compressor and you may only need a single tank.