Expert: Existing factories producing millions of ICE vehicles will be worthless

[@electricviking]

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[@violetquinnlaw]

who would have guessed that planning works better than hoping for the best lol

[@ФёдорЛукин-у1о]

The funny thing: if legacy auto used all those money for RnD instead of Anti EV propaganda, they'd have a chance to be competent in the new tech

[@mikewise992]

No, I don't think so. Legacy R&D is very slow. It is a systemic problem with no obvious fix.

[@Nick-io9uk]

Or better still, just steal all the Chinese R&D, as the chinese did for decades to the west.

[@Batucadax]

Er no. is like asking blackberry to make iPhone. Or worse, a horse breeder to make a car. Same premise but extremely different in execution

[@almackenzie2549]

Perhaps all the 100s of millions to management and shareholders was NOT a good investment...

[@davidbeppler3032]

GM spent tens of millions of dollars feeding lies to main stream media saying EVs are dangerous and catch fire. Then GM EVs started catching fire. Less GM EVs caught fire than the ICE they sell and would have been ignored, if they had not paid people to promote EV fires. lmao

[@muleface1066]

If new battery technologies weren't being announced on a monthly basis, EV sales would be growing even faster. As it stands, a lot of potential buyers are standing on the sidelines waiting for better, and cheaper, technology.

[@muleface1066]

Another thing that will put a damper on EV sales in the long run is their longevity. If an EV lasts twice as long as an ICE, presumably, people will need only half as many.

[@alexd302]

@@muleface1066 Not just EV sales, automobile sales in general. Plus, if and when Robotaxis really catch on, city dwellers will not be buying an automobile at all, rather just hire one for their annual vacation. For the rest of the time, just use a Robotaxi. No parking hassles, Insurance, maintenance etc.

[@nfzeta128]

@@muleface1066 nah the batteries and maybe even motors will last long but just like an ICE car the interior and chassis will still deteriorate at the same rate as ICE cars.

[@PhilSpeers-w8n]

Just like your i phone?

[@AhmadMazini]

Exactly

[@antwnpowell]

France has has to subsidise rural petrol stations already :

[@chryoko]

In my countryside, I need to drive over 15km to fill up my tank already... ev is clearly the way if the near future....

[@TheGammelfjols]

we ar now plus 90% ev of all new cars in Denmark. +10% off all cares in Denmark are EVs

[@TheGammelfjols]

@@chryoko the same is happening in Denmark. to

[@RuffyUzumakii7]

@TheGammelfjols I have found the 10% fleet, but not the 90%. Where are the sourcer for that? I just found 55%

[@gnoufignon]

@@RuffyUzumakii7 Over half of EV owners in the USA would NOT buy another EV. EV's will take over--- one day.

[@Fudog1138]

The outskirts of Detroit Michigan checking in here. Unused parking lots around me are full of unsold inventory. Beutifull automobiles with no one to buy them. It's very sad to see. No matter how deep you bury your head in the sand, your buns will still get burned. Thanks for all of your hard work Sam. I wish you and your family the best in the new year.

[@chrisconklin2981]

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship American car manufacturing management and major stockholders will disappear.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Here in rural Nova Scotia, cornfield filled around Jeep/RAM dealer …😮

[@GregoryBrettin]

It's because those vehicles are way too expensive.

[@SigFigNewton]

Covid tricked them into thinking that people could afford expensive autos. When people weren’t spending on services, they had more to spend on a car. The automakers projected this into the future and decided to manufacture more larger expensive high profit margin vehicles. But rather than the future being a continuation of people being able to spend more on auto, there was a rapid transition to people spending *more* on services due to inflation and having less to spend on a car.

[@lvjinbin28]

If I were governor of Michigan, I would invite all Chinese EV car company to Detroit, build factory and hire MAGA.😂😂

[@TheTanman412]

The Japanese Auto Industry not only spent billions of dollars lobbying against EVs the last 10 years, but 10x more on a Hydrogen future they arrogantly were certain of. It’s not so much faster charging that caught them off-guard, but the public’s ability to change how/when they charge while their vehicles are parked 90% of their lifetime either in public or at home. A 5min Hydrogen fill up is only useful if you can make the stations as numerous as the standard wall outlet on every building, house, car, power station, solar generator, etc.

[@damirzanne]

just like EV’s , but unlike EV’s powered by charging stations which get their electricity from the fossil fuel run power plants , hydrogen is actually eco friendly

[@stevetodd7383]

@@damirzanne hydrogen is eco-friendly? You are, my friend, severely deluded. Most hydrogen is produced by steam reforming of natural gas, which is incredibly intensive for CO2 production. Oh, you say, but you can make it by electrolysis. Yes you can, but at a far lower efficiency than by just putting the electricity you used into batteries (either locally or via the grid). Once you have all that lovely hydrogen then you either burn it in an internal combustion engine (which is 25-30% efficient and doesn’t just produce water, it also produces harmful nitrous oxides), or you feed it into a fuel cell, which is expensive, is only about 60-70% efficient and needs a battery to stabilise the power draw from the electric motor (fuel cells are bad at rapidly changing demands). So you end up in this case with a more complex, dangerous and expensive EV.

[@michaelputnam2532]

@@damirzanne Actually, hydrogen doesn't work out too well when you look at the energy required to produce it versus the resulting output.

[@andrewsaint6581]

OMG, where are you getting your 10 year old FUD from?​@@damirzanne

[@ricco123tube]

​@@damirzanneare you trolling or serious?

[@MrTnylam]

I live in the US, but we don't have access to Chinese EV's . If that were to happen, I can see Chinese EV's dominate the market.

[@davidbeppler3032]

Nope, nowhere to charge them. Tesla is just better in every way. China EVs could destroy GM and Ford sales. Would not effect Tesla sales.

[@Hookeslaw]

Not just EVs, hybrids and plug in hybrids will dominate first. PHEVs well below 20k already available.

[@kaijen2688]

Tesla needs to lower prices and quickly as others are playing the same game. Gm is barely producing, Ford isn't, and Dodge is way behind in the game. The European car market is collapsing. The Chinese make full arrays of vehicles from inner city to mpv and trucks. The only player in the USA is Tesla.

[@elenabob4953]

Chinese EVs solution is to put a thermal engine to charge the battery for extended range so I'm not sure it is fair to call those type of cars EVs

[@charrin9086]

@@davidbeppler3032 Musk would give them access to Tesla chargers

[@leo5869]

In 2019, I was in Shenzhen on business. All the taxis I took them were EVs. Yeah, China got a big head start

[@johnroberts9922]

LOL. OK guy.

[@zebraimage]

All 16,000 buses electrified by that time as well.

[@johnroberts9922]

@@zebraimage After researching the topic you have made a fair point.

[@frankblangeard8865]

China is has been building an enormous number of coal fired power plants to generate the electricity needed to run those EVs. Also huge hydroelectric dams.

[@zebraimage]

@@frankblangeard8865 that's not the whole picture and you know it.

[@gsnyder2007]

The reason China will blow by their goals for EV adoption is because EV’s are awesome.

[@Gdesign959]

Or they live in a communist country and make $4 an hour to build these cars.

[@VidarLund-k5q]

In Norway 95 percent of new family cars are electric. As from 2025 it will be 100 percent.

[@adrianwhitehead1950]

Norway is not really representative of a large developed economy IMHO.

[@user12122]

Norway is subsidizing evs with 500000NOK per car (42500€) with oil money so no wonder😂 Also charging infra had been build with oil money, including reduced toll and parking fees and ferry fares.

[@mrkring1526]

My condolences

[@johnstanley5784]

Great. Other countries going electric means cheaper gas for us in US

[@steak5599]

Norway has always been a Country with So much Hydro electric power, and they export them to other EU neighbors. They aren't exactly a good representation of the whole world. No one can really replicate what Norway can do due to Geography.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

Mt retired father bought what he thought would be his last ever new car 18 months ago, and went with Plug in Hybrid. It was a mistake. He has to tell it to run the ICE occasionally, because he almost never needs it. The 80km/50mile range services almost all his driving, and he could borrow one of our cars for the rare longer trips he takes. Dad puts petrol in a couple of times a year. It wasn't what any of us expected.

[@MetaView7]

When my brother sold his hybrid after 3 years, he had never filled his tank. Not even once. My sister has had a hybrid for 18 months, she filled once because she made a long trip. All this range-anxiety is in the head.

[@llee4225]

People are scared or mislead by media and corporations into decision instead of doing the basic analysis.

[@evalangley3985]

EVs are perfect for driving in the city, they are a problem on the highway for long trips.

[@dianewallace6064]

Grovy Dad u have.

[@peterpan408]

​@@evalangley3985Especially if the ICE is too small.

[@paulvancamp1436]

I rented a GM EV for a week, and the only downside was finding a charging station and changing the time. I will keep my 14-year-old ICE car for five more years and then probably buy an EV when the price and battery technology mature.

[@michaelkatz275]

Good move.

[@kng128]

@@michaelkatz275GM EVs just don’t have good charge curves. Neither do Fords. Hyundai and Tesla do much better.

[@IaintTheHerb]

I rented an EV in Europe a couple of times, only because I was forced to - no ICE cars available. I did not like the uncertainty of finding a charging station, and the diesel would have been the same cost per km. No wonder Hertz is selling them off. The EV "revolution" needs a lot more infrastructure before it actually happens.

[@fwmack1]

Yeah have an EV with a home charging station , never used a public charging station when on holiday use a connection to houshold power as we sleep

[@michaelkatz275]

@@kng128 I think I will stick with ICE.

[@chinesecrested9528]

BYD in Thailand for me mid 2025. No looking back

[@manavk]

I’m using one in Thailand, been 14 months. Happy with it. Go for it. Very minuscule chance I’ll ever choose to go back to ICE.

[@h0ngcom]

Pure-EV sales in Thailand in Jan-Nov 2024 is still just 11.85%, so not yet necessary to quick adapt that.

[@davidpretiz4439]

Happy new year Sam. I have been watching your videos for over a year. Thanks for your work, and wishing you (and your wife's health) the best for the new year! Greetings from Costa Rica!

[@rais1953]

China 🇨🇳 and Australia 🇦🇺 both have good reason to promote a predominantly electric car market. Both countries are fuel importers that can produce their own electrical energy without importing much. China still imports some coal but they're building a lot of solar and wind generation.

[@larryc1616]

Europe too

[@oberstleutnant787]

Australia is a small potato not in the same league as China.

[@rais1953]

@oberstleutnant787 Except for India, nobody is in the same league as China.

[@rais1953]

@oberstleutnant787 Compared with China other countries are small except for lndia.

[@ronmcmahon508]

I drive a 2018 VW e-Golf. I live in Canada. I would encourage you to personally experience real winter weather driving here, like when it's less than -30°C. It is clear that your comments about the utility of hybrids is not applicable to most of Canada. The vast majority of my nation is sparsely populated, with 90% living in a strip within 100km of the US border. This still leaves over 4,000,000 citizens spread out in small communities reaching all the way north to the Arctic Ocean. In the cold winter weather, my battery-electric car struggles to give me even 150 km of range on its full 34kw battery charge. Refilling it, even on DC fast charging is damaging and slow in these conditions. The car, like most vehicles in Canada, is parked outdoors 24x7, so my battery gets that cold. Last winter was the first time the car would not operate, as we hit -38°C and my 5-year old 12V lead battery failed to supply enough amps for the car's systems. -38°C may sound cold to you, but for the vast majority of Canada's geography, this is not as cold as winter gets. I've lived and worked north of 60° north latitude where winter temperatures below -40°C for weeks are common. Synthetic motor oil is necessary, as it still flows at these temperatures. Canadians who need to travel outside of a major southern city will continue to require and use internal combustion engines as there is no equivalent EV capability for safe travel across our distances. Hybrids are the best option available for those who wish to reduce tailpipe emissions, but pure ICE choices are simpler, less expensive and utilize Canada's well-established and reliable hydrocarbon fuel infrastructure. Your comment about fuel becoming unaffordable stands in sharp contrast with history. I say all of this as someone who (pre-pandemic) cycles 18km each way to work (even in -35°C weather) and drives a battery electric car. I don't need to be convinced to make lifestyle changes, but my eyes and mind understand that just because a KZbin influencer says something, doesn't mean that people will willingly abandon modern, reliable technology to comply with some distant decree that how they survive and make a living cannot continue.

[@you2be839]

I would encourage you instead to personally experience real nice weather for EV driving here in western Southern Europe!...

[@simonreeves2017]

Hi, the points you raise are valid, but remember that the e-Golf is/was a compromised BEV. Current models will outperform it for cold weather duty. Future models will cope much better. LFP batteries are already far less affected by cold weather, and will only get better as the technology evolves.

[@ronmcmahon508]

@@simonreeves2017 Simon, The idea that we can mitigate climate harm by discarding a 6 year old car, claiming that it is somehow so 'compromised' that it needs to be replaced with an entirely new one is ludicrous. In 2031 when today's newness is equally old, will you be calling for its immediate replacement? Do you swap out your cell phone the moment it's successor is available? There is ALWAYS something newer, better, or cheaper. Canada is an extraordinarily empty winter nation whose citizens generally show little interest in adopting technology that's full of unnecessary risk and expense. A 350 km drive from EVERY major Canadian metropolis will land you in a desperate situation. Your battery in today's cutting-edge BEV in -33°C will now be depleted and there is not likely to be a DC Fast Charger in sight nor will there be a 220V plug handy either. A 110V toaster plug is easiest to find...hopefully you brought along a spare home charger and there's some community close - this Level 1 top-up charge will take you more than a day and every time you turn on the heat as you charge, you will delay your departure. Yes, you can find the Tesla Super-Chargers along the Trans-Canada highway, but real work happens everywhere they aren't.

[@simonreeves2017]

@ I wasn’t suggesting that the e-Golf should be scrapped; that would be utterly stupid! I was pointing out that EVs are an evolving technology and will improve. There is a big difference between a Ford Model-T from the 1920s when compared to a Ford Explorer from the 2020s, technology improves, that is the nature of human ingenuity.

[@ronmcmahon508]

@@simonreeves2017 Fair point Simon, though there are real hard limits to our understanding of elements and what we can make them do outside of the lab. Much of the hype around BEVs and Lithium-based batteries resembles the enthusiasm in response to the development of atomic power in the 1950s. There were going to be nuclear powered airplanes, ships and trains with talk of home-based reactors and miracle materials. Lots of crazy ideas, far too many one-off trials and dead-ends, but today most atomic power-derived innovations remain the domain of governments with war machines and medicine the prime users of this technology. It brought about many great benefits to humanity, but a LOT of harm and unimaginably enormous expense as well. I suspect that we will see a similar outcome to the current electrification mania - things will change and evolve, but only what affordably improves people's lives will stick. Society will also once again learn the hard lesson that decrees and demands from far-away people in foreign lands will have precious little power unless it is delivered by force, which is something that the world needs less of these days...

[@ambroulard]

Your predictions suggest everyone can afford a new car-- even a low cost NEW car is out of reach for MANY- so used cars of all types will still be sale-able.

[@charlesrovira5707]

That's why *Tesla RoboCab* and *Roe Bovens* will be so popular...

[@seekingworldlywisdom]

That may be true today but, mathematically speaking, the used EV price will drop to a point that compatible with used ICE car in which, for ex. you have a choice to buy a 2 years old ICE BMW or a 3 years old BYD Seal EV for the same price.

[@michaelkatz275]

It is what I am looking for.

[@user12122]

​@@charlesrovira5707teslas fsd will never work especially as tesla removed sensors that are crucial like lidar. Elon has said that fsd will work next year for straight 8 past years but i have hunch it will be that way until Elon drops the bucket.😂

[@docwatson1134]

Supply of used ice vehicles will be fourfold the number of people looking to buy one. Prices will be very low, sometimes free, just to get rid of it.

[@JonasAstrom-zv1tu]

I totally agree with you, but don't you get a lot of hate from grown up kids who believe that only growling V8s are for real men? Indeed, I too like the sound of a beefy inline 6 or a revving 3 cylinder (the Honda S660), but that is becoming history. Looking back and being nostalgic is ok, but looking forward is absolutely necessary. And fun!

[@jeffl4810]

I've loved my V8's and other gas engines, but I can't wait to get a suitable EV truck. The gas cost savings alone will be immense. The simplicity of just plugging in at home once or so a week to charge it up will be super convenient. The performance will be phenomenal compared to ICE.

[@jwstolk]

I like the sound of steam engines, but drive an EV. Today's kids grew up with phones that need charging, they don't see any problem in a car that needs charging. they may still end up buying a second hand fossil car as their first car, but if they buy a new car, it will be an EV. Just look at the age of people still screaming they will never buy an EV.

[@TheCalvinnnnn]

You’re juxtaposing as a petrolhead. This sucks for all petrolheads. EV’s have no soul and are just another electronic device that will basically drive itself and stop if you don’t have enough cash to fill it up. Sounds extreme but it’s coming

[@jsanders100]

@@TheCalvinnnnnso ice cars don’t stop if you don’t fill them up?

[@alexd302]

Yeah, I also miss the clippity clop and the smell of horse shit.

[@lvjinbin28]

Why did China achieve his goal 10 years ahead of schedule? Because China didn't expect Japanese so stick to Hydrogen energy vehicle, China also didn't even expect that Germany's industry 4.0 became industry 0.4, even got deindustrialized by his ally😅😢

[@gsnyder2007]

Just leased a Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited. Took the family on a road trip (Boston to Kentucky, about 2000 miles round-trip) in very cold weather. Plenty of charging stations along the route - yes, we need more to accommodate larger numbers of EV’s - and we had to wait in line once (note, it was a heavy holiday travel situation). I’m grinning ear-to-ear at being able to say goodbye to gas and to drive an EV that rocks. BTW, in 2024 we will exceed 1.5C (likely to come in at 1.6C) and we are on a trajectory towards 3C of warming. We need to stop pumping GHG’s into our atmosphere.

[@contrarian604]

You are correct. However, the one piece of the puzzle that the world needs to wake up to is either low-emission GHG power supplies, basically natural gas, or zero GHG nuclear power. Solar, wind, and tidal will never be able to supply "reliable" power unless we all want to go to bed and turn off the world when the sun goes down.

[@johnstanley5784]

And you think electric ars are going to solve the problem????? ha.

[@loganlove9986]

And you’re also forgetting 3rd world countries in Africa and South Asia that need electricity still . . . And they aren’t nearly as along in the green revolution as us We may be doing everything we can ourselves, but wait until oil companies start selling in Africa, Latin America, and Middle East/South Asian countries . . .

[@gsnyder2007]

@@johnstanley5784 No, not what I think at all really. I try to ride my bicycle whenever feasible. Transportation is just one part of the puzzle. Switching from ICE to EV helps, a lot, but we will need to do a LOT more to mitigate climate change. Have you read How to Avoid a Climate Disaster (ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Avoid_a_Climate_Disaster)? Gates' work does a good job of providing an overview of the challenges, and some possible solutions in each area of GHG emissions. What Gates doesn't discuss is the broader concept of sustainability. Is that what your post hints at? How do we have continual growth of financial returns on a planet with finite resources? We had a relatively small impact on the Earth before the Industrial Revolution. Now, due to our modern, energy-dense lifestyles and due to population increases, we have a large impact on our Earth. Do you have any better ideas of what a person can do to mitigate climate change?

[@gsnyder2007]

@@loganlove9986 Well, I can't go back in time and elect Harris over Trump. I don't have the power to sway African countries to do things differently. So, I'm choosing to do what I can within my own life and hoping others join me in doing the same. I rode my bicycle 4000 miles in 2024. If I made on resolution in 2025 it's that I will ride my bicycle 6000 miles. The EV was a move to allow me and my family to drive a vehicle that lowers our GHG footprint. I plan to make more changes (to my lifestyle and home) in 2025 to further reduce my footprint. I'm having solar panels put on our roof so that I can generate the electricity the EV needs, and offset some of our other energy needs. I'm fully aware that producing these panels has a cost as well. Hence, the bike riding. I'm trying. Are you? Please say yes. 🤣😭

[@SamZedder]

In North America we are very behind on the charging infrastructure and lack the power infrastructure where places have to limit their use of A/C in the summer. Also if you live in an apartment building most don’t have chargers either. The change will come eventually, just not as fast in NA.

[@peterpan408]

NA can be sparse and distant. The environment can be highly variable (altitude, temperature, road condition etc). EV aren't ready for that.

[@bishopdansby4287]

I hate to see EV charging as densely available as gas stations. I would like to see a new era where the map and software on the vehicle and home computer will provide better planning, instead of relying on the traditional convenience of a gas station on every corner.

[@ThePedroDB]

@SamZedder the UK is also 'behind' on the charging infrastructure. However, the real issue is, will the National Grid have sufficient capacity to charge everybody's EV overnight? I doubt it. There is 10% headroom at maximum presently. The UK Government are really going to have to get a move on with Solar/Wind Farms and other sustainable energy to make EVs a realistic sole solution

[@henvan8737]

Sam if you you are prediction is correct, the used ICE car market will also collapse. 2025 and 2026 will be very interesting.

[@JamesBrown-ey2ny]

I am from Tajikistan and working in GCC (Dubai and Qatar) Africa and GCC along some central Asian countries still use ICE cars till 2040 and beyond... ICE cars will be shift location if stricter rules applied for West and EU... Time will tell (God knows better)

[@rl8571]

It is common for Americans to drive over 2,000 miles on a vacation road trip. I can complete a 1,000 mile road trip 16 hours with 5 minute fuel stops. A 30 minute EV stop will make it close to a 24 hour road trip. America is a big country. Until a 3,000 mile EV is created or 5 minute battery charging is achieved, it will be hard to outsell ICE engines.

[@dehua-2730]

@@rl8571 That's bullshit, it takes me 4h to drive about 200 miles. I need at least 1-2h break, unless you have 2 people driving non stop at the fastest you would need 20h on a 1000 mile trip. The reason why American drive those crazy distance is because they don't have proper public transport. A lot of people drive 8h from LA to SF, in China, just take a high speed train for 3h.

[@charliemiller828]

@@rl8571Do you own an EV

[@morbward8281]

@@dehua-2730 If EVs are so great, why are they being mandated? Let the market decide. EVs might work in Europe in most countries you can throw a rock from one end to the other.

[@johnnguyen699]

"Made in China" is no longer the laughable Made in China.... Planes, trains, automobiles, and by the way A.I. is coming too...

[@michaelkatz275]

Do they produce a vehicle that will last more than five years?

[@mrkring1526]

It is laughable to think we have humans running around like you with this thought process. How disgraceful

[@earlpainter2143]

I just went to the Nio website. Mind blown.

[@siffuf]

There is no central planning in China. It's just planning. Central planning it is when you have just 3-4 company and they don't compete with each other while their output is planned by the party.

[@ptioxon]

Every 5 years, since they took over China, The CCP announced their 5 year Economic Plan. The Chinese auto industry does NOT compete with the plan, they follow the road mapped out for them and it's an electric highway powered by solar energy, fuel cost free from foreign oil imports forever. The individual auto makers then compete with each other over how efficiently they can realize the goal of CCP's 5 year plan. That is their centralized plan.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

No-one seems to know how China really works. Anyone claiming they do is a liar. China is not selling merchandise below cost. I don't know how they do it, but they are.

[@jayceh]

​@@tsubadaikhan6332world class infra, lowest electricity cost in OECD, completely vertically integrated supply chains, industry clusters for efficiency and innovation, automated ports, highly robotized advanced manufacturing They're not hiding it. Anyone who goes to a Chinese factory understands immediately

[@charlesrovira5707]

@@tsubadaikhan6332 They pay their people lousy wages, but it's still a huge step up from what they had after the *Opium Wars,* that they are collectively better off.

[@hclau218]

​@@charlesrovira5707yes, I wonder why you govts are so worried about China.. 😅😅

[@matthijsbonefaas]

Thanks for the offer of the G6. I stick to my plan to buy the very best: a Tesla Y. During its lifetime there will be lots and lots of updates installed. The G6 has still to prove this in the long run.

[@willeisinga2089]

5 years planning and adjusting. 👍🌹❤

[@FutureSystem738]

Five and a half fabulous years of Tesla ownership for us! One thing for certain : I will NEVER EVER buy ICE again.

[@WESTYWALKR]

Happy New Year! Thanks for your timely updates on the EV revolution. Your channel name fits you well, the Vikings were known for seeking the uncharted!

[@mikewallace8087]

Sam is not a Viking , he is a poser .

[@Lumpiness]

People are beginning to realize the advantages of EV ownership. The disruption will only speed up!

[@peterpan408]

The eWaste angle is a concern. A dead battery will write them off.

[@michaelbaja1854]

And what are the advantages?

[@michaelkatz275]

Do you know what happens if you live on the coast and the battery comes into contact with salt water?

[@briangasser973]

Let's see how true your statement is without all the $7500 tax subsidy used mainly by upper income folks to buy EVs.

[@michaelbaja1854]

@@michaelkatz275 BZZZZZZZRAAAZZZZT!

[@johnv9854]

I find it funny that they are saying ICE car will be worthless as a EV owner who has recently been considering trading to a Model Y its evident that EV's hold no value long term... So basically the whole car market is going to shit permanently...

[@skepticalmechanic]

Well said… my 2 year old model 3 is the best car I have ever owned… getting a model y for my wife when the new Y comes out…

[@cesarforte617]

i think your seeing it as in buying a vehicle then use it and replace it with another 1 for an upgrade no other reason then changing for newer version EVs are design for lont-term usage not buying and flipping or just simply bored of your existing model.

[@alans.4658]

agree

[@peterpan408]

Experiment.. if an ICE is worthless, $0, and an EV is $90000; How long can I drive that ICE for $90000? EV does not drive for free, so how long until it breaks even? Same question applies to expensive Hybrids vs ICE. If they are cheap to buy, that's a lot of gas you can buy instead! I think older Hybrids will be the 2nd Hand Choice. Also note, EV are not $90000, they are $150000 (before subsidies).

[@KapusatayoLynx]

😂 EVs are low maintenance. If you have solar panel in your house then you can plug in your EV car at no cost. Meanwhile you ICE is so dependent on the world market price of crude oil. Your ICE needs a battery to run. The EV needs no oil or transmission no drive trains so expensive to maintain. ICE cars has fewer features to offer especially at lower price category.

[@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257]

My estimate is that by December 2025 70% of cars sold in China will be NEVs. ( 40% BEV & 30% PHEV&EREV)

[@yogamon]

My bet is 107%

[@RuffyUzumakii7]

yeah but NEVs are not pure EV, so it doesn't count. Plugins and hybrids do not count as full EV. They are just bad disguised ICE.

[@morbward8281]

Who cares.

[@tsubadaikhan6332]

Some Chinese cities are banning ICE vehicles entering them from 2030. You'd be a fool to buy an ICE car if you lived in a city already.

[@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257]

@@RuffyUzumakii7 How about BEV growing from 31% in 2024 to 40% by 2025

[@willeisinga2089]

Sam is the One and Only. Capital. Thank You Sam.❤👍🌹

[@you2be839]

They are worthless now, because I don't want to buy a brand-new ICE car... like ever again!

[@freddunaway2777]

Plug-in hybrids have the worst of both and the best of neither. Still has an ICE and all of the issues that come with and a small, limited range battery.

[@ZenoGotWet]

I agree with your timescales on everything except the used ICE market.

[@peterpan408]

The used ICE market is going to be fun. Hopefully the gas stations don't disappear or ICE gets taxed off the road 😥

[@hclau218]

I still have a few used horse buggies in my yard😅😅😅

[@johnroberts9922]

BYD and Tesla will surely be around in 2035. I am not confident that any other manufacturer will last that long.

[@peteinwisconsin2496]

Many of the carriage makers tried producing automobiles. Exactly one carriage maker survived the transition in the USA. That was Studebaker.

[@johnroberts9922]

@@peteinwisconsin2496 Excellent stuff I did not know Pete!

[@Chris-bg8mk]

I’ve been electric since 2016 here in the US and driving Chevy! Spark and now Bolt. Hopefully they will survive because they have a half decent EV division.

[@USACars-id3bf]

Dont know where this guy gets his information. He's full of misinformation . In the U.S. Gas car manufacturing has increased steadily, Dealers are ordering ICE cars to replace EVs. Hundreds of new super gasoline stations are being built, Nation Wide. You need to find a new line of business on YT

[@jacklisk5475]

I live in northern Canada. We have not seen the sun here in 8 days and it's going down to -25 , -30 C every night. and have lost power twice in that period. The closet charging station to me is an hour and half drive. Yes going to run out and trade in my Tacoma today to get an EV. It makes so much sense doesn't it?

[@damirzanne]

same thing happened in Chicago , people were waiting in line , in snow storm , freezing , trying to charge their Teslas at the broken down , not working charging stations

[@catepons3319]

There is probably not enough coal to make all this electricity, and certainly there will be not enough copper mined and refined by 2035 to conduct it. The whole piece sounds like trolling. A lot more likely the "legacy" banks issuing these prediction will not be around by then, given the credit crunch and fiat money destruction.

[@tedwong7037]

To be fair hes talking abt china, 1, hes saying trends in china, blackout is not anything happens often in china, hainan had this direct hit by 17+ typhoon and 1 week later all city was back on power,2, hes saying in china it will be up to 60% in china, remember there will still be 40% ICE cars, people up in north surely will appreciate ICE car more due to the battery performance in cold temp.

[@Hookeslaw]

Wow that's rough. You don't have a house or electricity?

[@jacklisk5475]

@@Hookeslaw got a house, solar back up, which the batteries ran out during the power outage no sun no recharge had to use backup generator.

[@jeffschueler1182]

Mark this man’s words on Dec 31, 2024. He understands the future.

[@ericbarnett852]

I bet the legacy auto makers will ask to get bailed out by the government.

[@ericbarnett852]

I bet then they'll have to make EVs. Maybe the government will make them

[@andrewm1894]

Brilliant feature of an EV that nobody talks about is no ice engine start-stop (hated that)

[@mrnicktoyou]

I don't know if what you're predicting is correct (time will tell), but I'm just glad you're talking about it. The rate of your output is awesome!

[@Dw91-k8n]

It's insane he just does not stop haha

[@zes7215]

wr

[@bugsbunny8881]

It's how it works. Propaganda. Repeat repeat repeat till everyone believes...

[@Dw91-k8n]

@@bugsbunny8881 there is truth to what he's saying tho

[@eismcsquared]

I have a hypothesis that the worrying reduction in insect life is directly related to the increase in diesel engined cars in recent decades . Insects respire through their skin and the microscopic particles produced by ice engines block this process. I will discover if this hypothesis is true in 2030s, when I expect / hope insect numbers will recover You heard it here first.

[@WilyTuber]

Tens of Thousands and thousands more out of work as a result of "progress". Network engineers, coders, assemblers gone with the wind. But they'll always need plumbers no matter what. So much for high technology. Someone bring me a beer.

[@macmcleod1188]

Yes but there will be a day when robotic plumbers will do most the work and the master plumber will mostly inspect and sign off on the work. 20 plumbers will become 3 plumbers with 17 robotic plumbers. Also fixtures will be standardized and made easier for robot labor to work with.

[@woombie9287]

@@macmcleod1188 🤣🤣🤣 Quite clearly you have no experience whatsoever working in the building/construction trades.

[@macmcleod1188]

@@woombie9287 hahaha. Everyone thinks they're so unique until they're replaced to.

[@jimj2683]

You know it is serious when a car like the NIO ET7 has better sound insulation than a Mercedes EQS.

[@viking1au]

Yes, he has mentioned it for years, & I do think he is right...We can see it happening now & many people are simply waiting for EV's to become even cheaper...........

[@Watmab7797]

Happy New Year, Sam. Really appreciate all your updates.,

[@bogmih]

Have resale values of ICE cars crashed in Norway? Honest question. I'm in favour of EV's, but prefer to stay realistic.

[@paulklem9249]

People talk about the lack of charging stations. I’ve had 2 electric cars since 2012 and I probably used a charging station 20 times. 99.9% I’ve changed them at home. I’ve never had them serviced other than brakes once. I wonder if people buying cars a hundred years ago worried about trading their horse and buggies for the lack of gas stations?

[@gboates]

Some automakers have successfully converted ICE factories: • Ford: Transitioned factories like the Rouge plant in Michigan to produce EVs like the F-150 Lightning. • General Motors: Retooled plants such as Factory ZERO in Detroit to focus on EVs. • Volkswagen: Converted the Zwickau plant to exclusively produce EVs like the ID series. ICE factories can be converted to produce EVs, doing so requires substantial investment, new technology, and workforce adjustments. Automakers often view these conversions as critical steps in the transition to a more sustainable future.

[@jonevansauthor]

A better example is surely Tesla's plant in Fremont, right? It was a GM factory but now builds cars under Tesla. Key point being none of the people listed above are making a profit which might suggest that their buildings should have been new ones and they should have started again (as Tesla did with Texas and China and Germany) to be more efficient. But yeah... there's no reason whatsoever a lot of the equipment and the building can't be re-used. A paint shop for cars is a paint shop. A conveyor belt is a conveyor belt. And worthless means without worth, not, worth a lot less than it was twenty years ago.

[@hedibenayed436]

Funnily enough Toyota is converting from what I know 10 factories to electric car manufacturing

[@TheGalantir]

The problem with Ford, GM and VW is that yest they converted factories to produce EV's only but they're still producing using an outdated and labor intensive way. They are in no way able to EV's efficiently enough to compete.

[@ABa-os6wm]

Toyota has no EV. To what vehicle would they "convert their factories" ???

[@hedibenayed436]

@@ABa-os6wm from what I know there is the urban cruiser, bz4x and bz3x(this is a china exclusive currently) there is also some investment in ev tech in Japan and work with suppliers I read some of the pdfs they published about it I am not defending Toyota but it started to bend the knee to ev especially after the Nissan Sakura ev success in Japan I may be wrong about some stuff but the trend is that they are just starting to convert to evs would only expect anything only by 2027 to 2029 because of how long it takes to ramp up everything but would also expect a crisis would cause them to go faster everything is possible to change

[@ab3000x]

Happy New Year Sam. Wishing the best for you and your family.

[@markwiegard8384]

The US has a lot of oil and natural gas reserves. This will drive fuel prices down. The US can go for another 100-200 years

[@byrnespub]

It’s not all about how much gas costs. It could drop to $.25 a gallon and there’s no way you could pry me out of my Tesla into an ICE vehicle. I don’t miss those awful stops at the gross gas stations, pulling out my credit card, shooing away the panhandlers while I brave the elements to fill up. Now, my car is fully charged every morning in my garage. And I don’t miss oil changes or transmission services or belt changes or annual services. Two years into ownership and all I’ve had to do is rotate tires and change a cabin air filter.

[@markwiegard8384]

@ I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s your opinion and the way it should be. I don’t want to have to charge for 20-40 minutes before I can go again It’s our opinion not mandated.

[@you2be839]

The question is: when people start seeing (and smelling, and hearing) what cities with 80-90% EVs on the roads look like, will they want to continue to live in cities with 80-90% ICE cars on the roads?!...

[@markwiegard8384]

@ that depends 🤷‍♂️ recently I’ve noticed the EV market has been crashing. Even Tesla has laid off a percentage of their workforce. So it depends if EV’s are a fad or a staple in a greater percentage of the auto industry. As EV’s age what are the parts and battery replacements costs going to do? Will EV’s be a car collector’s type novelty. China has built coal plants and hydroelectric plants to meet the EV demand. It’s good for China because they don’t have any oilfields and little to no coal mining buying coal & oil from Russia. The US has set aside billions to install charging stations and have built 9 in three years and they don’t all work. A long ways from 500,000 charging stations they said they would have. Besides we don’t have the available power to supply the electricity these stations need to operate. Some of the largest utility companies are sitting on 4000 solar applications for an interconnection agreement, for over 3 years. They’re in no hurry to supply alternative energy to power EV’s sitting on a couple billion in deposits for interconnections before independent companies can install wind and solar in these areas. If gas stations get hard to find in the cities EV dominance will be a given. That said, ICE rentals will go up for people traveling out of town. Most auto rental companies have sold the majority of their EV fleet. EV’s still have a few major hurdles before their dominance. If the EViking is right, 2035-2040 will be the start of the shift. If the US builds new refineries that can process the sweet low sulfur oil we have the price of gas and diesel will be in the $2 gallon again and will be a major exporter of LPN and oil. The reserves under AK are massive. If we buy Greenland everything doubles. EV’s in a metro life is a given and makes sense. The rest of the 80% of the low population US not so much.

[@graemer970]

After the car industry has been taken over by EVs, what will be the next industry impacted? Motorcycles, 4 x 4, trucks, busses, boats, ferries, ships, aircraft...???

[@mybighandle]

Those who say they will stay with their ICE cars are the same to those that said they would stay with their horse.

[@VidarLund-k5q]

Hmmm. Those ICE engines eat while working, horses don't. Interesting.

[@JosiahK555]

LOL, no

[@JamesPink-j2k]

You've never owned an EV have you...

[@philblum1496]

Wait until the EVs are cheaper than the ICEs. Then we'll see how many are truly committed to fossil fuel.

[@cszuhan]

At that time, they could only put the gasoline barrels in the trunk to provide refueling.

[@markapplejohn4376]

Excellent analysis of a daunting problem on the horizon of all auto-producing countries save China. There has to be herculean efforts both with legacy auto companies and governments to quickly adapt and repurpose giant ICE factories so as to somewhat mitigate the inevitable...

[@gregdelong1539]

I would be interested in knowing what percent of Ev"s are being sold in large Chinese cities vs rural China?

[@Knightmare919]

Happy New Year🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊

[@electricviking]

Happy new year

[@LibertyAidAcademy]

2034 will never happen, as you know.

[@MikeKisil]

The best in coming new year to all on planet earth we are going to need it .

[@LawrenceAsero]

The big problem in the US is lack of home charging for apartment and condo dwellers. The infrastructure is not there yet and the cost of charging is more than gas at DC fast chargers. For now take the % of people without home charging and that is the guaranteed ICE market.

[@johnroberts9922]

My daughter lives in an upscale apartment in Upstate NY and the owners provide free EV charging.

[@LawrenceAsero]

That’s an enlightened landlord. And the future. But many landlords are not there yet.

[@johnroberts9922]

@@LawrenceAsero So true sir.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Apartment dwellers cannot afford a NEW ICE car. Problem solved

[@mrfarenheit9159]

@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneckThey can if five people are sharing the apartment!

[@SparkySho]

Second best video all month kemosabe 👍👍

[@sergiuconstantin6534]

For those who think that Electric Viking is not wright, it is obvious that you didn't read about ZEV mandate in UK, or EU emission regulations for 2025. There will be big penalties for most of the car companies. It is impossible for them to achieve the emissions targets. Facts! Do a research by yourselves!

[@iankuah8606]

It's customers who dictate the market not car makers or politicians. If people don't want EVs that's it!

[@sergiuconstantin6534]

​@@iankuah8606 I am contradicting you. Every business follows government regulations and rules. If they don't abide by these regulations, the government will fine them or even close their factories. In the automotive industry, they have to abide by safety and pollution regulations, for example. People buy the existing products from the market. People buy what is offered. If it's offered only electric cars they will buy electric cars according to their budget.

[@peterpan408]

Europe is known for its early, unrealistic regulatory changes. So much so, some companies just stop selling there!

[@Gdesign959]

If a product is superior why does it need mandates and tax payer funded discounts.

[@robertneilson3819]

Look at how fast cars replaced the horse in NY city in the past. Now look at how many car manufacturers there were years go. History repeats. The first MBZ was electric found in barn replaced battery and it worked after 104 years

[@earlpainter2143]

That Zeekr X at 2:31 is the coolest looking car!

[@MudaholicJR]

Damn expensive but

[@gordienj]

The auto drive Uber will help change the game, but I think the overall change will be a little slower than Sam's prediction. There needs to be more charging stations in remote areas to reach Sam's targets. There needs to be solar charging points at people's homes where they can do some battery module swapping. Also, coming right up, will be electric lawn care equipment replacing all the gas units.

[@pieceofhamvr6631]

I drive an EV for the last 3 years, had several Petrol and Diesel cars in 38 years of driving through the continent. This technology is the best, way ahead of the old timers. Our main transportation with cars in our house hold nowadays is 10% ICE - 90% EV. Commuting and travelling so much more comfortable./ relaxed. Charging times were a bit slower occasionally when on a long route, but definitely improving. Some countries are really good in helping with the pricing at fast chargers- like France, some are really bad- like UK/ Italy. Funny and sad thing is how the local dealer ship employees are still in the past, they do not like the EV-s, you can tell when going to test drive…. And I test drove a few models from different, mainly European models…. The employees do not know too much about these cars, when you ask for certain things they are unable to comprehend, understand and properly offer what the client is asking for. If the people of main car companies are not helpful to sell their EV-s what do you expect?

[@BRuas9080]

I’m gonna wait five more years to buy an ECV. My current car is very good and I guess in five more years battery technology will advance to new quality and performance levels. By the way, I’m curious how far advanced is the infrastructure in Australia, a country of vast distances. Is it feasible today to drive a long distance in Australia, is there recharging stations available on the roads?

[@jemezname2259]

I just bought a Model Y. It is still blowing my mind. Ev's are already great.

[@BRuas9080]

@You may live in the US or Europe. I live in Brazil, and I usually drive regularly to a place 750 km away in the countryside (a total of 1500 km), with no recharge stations nearby. An EV is not an option for me yet, which is why I believe that in five years, battery technology might advance to a level that makes this kind of trip feasible. Here, we have lots of BYD vehicles and several other brands available, but no Teslas. For some reason, Musk has decided that Brazil is not a priority.

[@waynebrenlund3124]

@BRuas9080 if you like planning you trip like a military campaign all good if you just want to do a few hundred km out of the major city it's fine can trip that the trip like a using a ice car we have big distances in Australia

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Those idiots who say EVs aren't a thing and the same people who say climate change is not a thing.

[@ThePedroDB]

They're both 'a thing' but are being sold/presented to the public using 'facts' that are questionable and designed to promote an appropriate response. The 'Green Movement' is a business like any other and has strategies to make money

[@targetguy777]

On the freeway with all the diesel trucks i can smell the dioxin in the air it will be for the best to have more electric.

[@LordElpme]

The only two legacy auto firms that might have had a chance is Volvo (which is Chinese owned, so insulated somewhat) and Nissan/Renault. Nissan dropped the ball with the Leaf, had they done a proper refresh in 2018 rather than just ditching the two worst batteries and worst motor and new bodywork they wouldn't need to merge with Honda to survive. We would probably have a £20K Nissan Micra EV 3/4 years ago. Renault had a major hickup due to the Russian issue, but the Scenic and Renault 5 EV prove that they are on the right track if they can stay afloat

[@fullrulle77]

Hyundai/Kia seems to be doing well. We'll see about the others. I suspect there will be a shakedown but some will survive.

[@LordElpme]

@@fullrulle77 Don't really count Kia/Hyundai as Legacy Auto, whilst they are no means a new startup, they didn't have their heads up their arses deep enough to not react early with EVs. As such, they were willing to gamble on gaining market share early on in order to survive. Ford/GM felt they didn't need to gamble so were willing to wait to see how the market goes. Which is going well for them I guess, lol.

[@elenabob4953]

Yeah but guess what. Renault EV branch is still in the negative and they use the profits given by Dacia to continue the EVs development and production as Renault hibrids & ICE barely stay afloat. How much time do you think they can afford this strategy especially when the EVs sales are in the gutter? Ah yes, what makes it more ridiculous is that they need to keep within the CAFE limits so to offset the CO2 levels they give free EVs to people in difficulty under the promise that they will start paying the car once they find a stable employment. So they count those as sold EVs even if they aren't exactly sold. I forgot what was the name of the program in France but I saw a commercial a few months ago. Ah yes, Renault isn't the only one applying this strategy.

[@lawrencesmith9059]

Agree that hybrids will be gone in 10 years from now, mainly because the cost of building a full EV will plunge as battery prices fall, but hybrids have more complexity and therefore costs cannot come down as much. The autonomous companies will cut yearly sales of vehicles by quite alot.

[@johnroberts9922]

I believe that my 2023 Tesla Model Y was one of the best purchases in my life. It costs almost nothing to charge at home, heats up in 2 minutes in the winter, is fast as ***t with the performance package, and with FSD I become a passenger in the car I am driving.

[@cmwHisArtist]

Do you work for the company or have stock?

[@johnroberts9922]

@@cmwHisArtist Hell no. I retired 16 years ago and am over 70. I may own stock, but it is only through massive mutual funds at Fidelity.

[@eagleeyez1]

@@cmwHisArtist model Y sold over a million units last year and the year before.... i doubt even 10 percent of them own stock or work for tesla.

[@jfobear1953]

I’m just hoping that those working in ICE auto factories will no just be locked out with no option for work to support themselves and their families. I am very interested to know if the new Model Y will have an improved suspension. My current Model Y ride is very rough in my opinion. As far as Full Self Driving is concerned I am interested in knowing if or when it is likely that the vehicles will communicate with other vehicles to improve FSD safety.

[@johnroberts9922]

Who knows when my Model Y will vehicles will communicate with other vehicles. I believe Tesla is there now but how do you get GM or Ford to incorporate that technology? I am not bothered by my 2023 Model Y's suspension, but I have the performance package and tend to drive very fast. Cornering is essential.

[@jamessmithers4456]

On how Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi+Dacia-DongFeng-Atovaz must regret the political coup against Carlos Ghosn and the top international management team he had assembled. Number 1 in massarket EVs in 2009, today they are not even in the top 20!!

[@elenabob4953]

Ghosn had the vision, he would NEVER lead the company into bankruptcy but hey, Nissan Directors knew better and they managed to push Nissan towards bankruptcy in only 6years. PS. When Ghosn was in charge of strategy Nissan+ Renault Group managed to have recorded sales and profit and they have reached second place in the world when you count the volumes of cars sold.

[@alans.4658]

Except for Tesla the US charging infrastructure plan is currently to give away taxpayer money to companies to install charging stations. They take the money and are never required to maintain the stations. US is still a long way from EV dominance.

[@A3Kr0n]

I'm not paying $50,000 for a car when my current car was $19,000 new (2012 Mazda 3i).

[@chryoko]

No worry, 20k $€£ ev are possible with LFP packs 44 to 55 kwh and fast charging in the 15 to 25 minutes. Good enough for every day use at 300 to 400km wltp range and fast charging for long trips.

[@davidbeppler3032]

That is not a car that is a scooter with doors.

[@waynebrenlund3124]

Lots people are in the same position as you unless.it becomes cheaper to swap out people will.drive their car until it stops

[@Hookeslaw]

2012, what does that same car cost today? Through Covid my preowned Niro increased in value by more than 30 percent with added mileage. That's not an EV problem, that's a cost of living problem.

[@epessoarocha]

Your Mazda will become worthless sooner you can expect.

[@Mr31Vince]

In the UK in November new BEVs outsold PHEVs and Hybrids added together, data from SMMT.

[@zongliangwu7461]

I’ll hang onto my horse. Is any company making faster horses nowadays?

[@Hookeslaw]

Good question. My horse gives me serious range anxiety and recharge times are ridiculous. Not to mension it gets distracted by all the other horses wanting to make more horses.

[@mattjayclay]

Hi Sam another excellent video thank you I don't see this stuff any anywhere else. I'm not an EV enthusiast until I'm convinced which is exactly the way I am with everything and I'm sure most people are. I'm a real tech enthusiast though . What we've been offered so far and the prices we've been offered them at I've never made any sense to me. The battery technology has been woeful. What's coming along now coming along from China is clearly a game changer. I don't even imagine legislation would be needed to force people to adopt EVs - if we I had just waited ror this next generation stuff. My very best wishes to your wife by the way I heard you mention her and her health situation the other day and I fully empathise.

[@jimbelton]

The fact that more EVs the ICVs are being sold in China doesn't reflect market economics. By improving EV economies of scale, the Chinese government can shape markets that don't impose tariffs, but both the EU and the North American markets have put up tariff walls to keep Chinese vehicles out. If Tesla can succeed in producing a low cost vehicle that's as cheap as a midrange ICV, they may have a chance of gaining a bigger share of the North American market. In Vancouver, the only EVs I see are Teslas, which are fairly common; there are very few other EVs on the road.

[@SaintKimbo]

Yes, Viking is living in a perfect world when it comes to his beloved EV's, theoretically correct, but reality is another issue. They are dominating in China because the Government can dictate that, pun intended. Europe and the USA are not going to standby and just let Chinese imports destroy their car industry, the social damage will cause a public outrage. In France, Renault is owned by the Government, the French will burn the place down if that company is allowed to die along with the 100 of thousands of jobs. The mandates will be eased or removed when the practical reality of Political parties getting wiped out at the ballot boxes starts hitting home. In Europe there is already a huge move to the political 'right', in England Starmers Labor party is getting slaughtered in the polls, and the right wing parties will kick those EV and green mandates to the kerb, like Trump is doing.

[@elenabob4953]

You don't realize how much China is pumping into their automotive industry. In China the suppliers are chosen and paid once the car is in production while in all the other countries you pay them since the development phase so they could afford to develop the tools and hire people required to produce those parts. In China they diverged a river course and cut off the water from a city so that they could build a plant and maintain the production going while that is unacceptable in the west. Unless the USA and other countries accept to do the same "sacrifices" they won't be able to compete with Chinese cars.

[@hclau218]

​@@elenabob4953Another fella totally swallowing all the disinformation pit out by Western govt controlled "free press" 😂😂😂

[@stigbengtsson7026]

My belive - when the EVs are about 75% the fossile fuel market for cars, are out of buisseness, it will be to expensive to produce this for a to little "market". Best whishes from the south of Sweden. SB.

[@luisgrod0]

The planet doesn't need more eternal combustion engines.

[@davidmolesworth583]

yes it does - the planet loves CO2 - Its the essential gas required by all living things.

[@msmith4158]

@@davidmolesworth583 You forget to add carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide NOx, PM, hydrocarbons,

[@johnslater7718]

You already produce enough co2 when your breath

[@elenabob4953]

Agreed, they just need the Chinese solution where on EVs you have a thermal engine that charges directly the battery. GREAT SOLUTION!

[@simond7582]

​@davidmolesworth583 what is the upper limit for co2 in you view or is it the more the better?

[@jarrowmarrow]

I have to start my ICE vehicle to make sure the battery didn't die because it sits 90 percent of the time. Its still good for towing and snow driving.

[@williamlewandowski129]

Yes, China is not a western accepted form of democracy, but right next door India fits the bill perfectly! I prefer to live in China's interpretation of democracy. And I am!

[@Truthstelling]

Yes, the West always preach about freedom n yet they don't let China walk his own path. How hypocritical are these people😂😂😂

[@ABa-os6wm]

Laughable. The west supported china through their 20 years of economics growth (ignoring all the human rights violations) Now growth is gone.

[@MetaView7]

I am disappointed that the Viking has to bring up the word "Democracy" and paint it in such a negative way. The west has Central Planning as well. What do you think those billions of dollars spent on the AZ TSMC plant are? How about EV incentives in the form of tax credits or rebates? Canada and Europe have Central Planning too. They invested billions in battery plants, etc. They made China look like an evil authoritarian state, meanwhile, they are doing the same.

[@SunnySGG]

​@@Truthstelling The West does not share its technologies, resources, and capital for free but rather sponsors efforts to promote democracy globally, often through coups and wars. Wow, why is democracy such a hard sell?

[@douglasnadybal7125]

@@Truthstelling Listen Comrad, China's own path seems to require slave labor, Uygyhurs. They are about 150 years behind the U.S.A. in human rights.

[@Henrik1966]

Spot on, Sam … 👏🏻

[@purplesprigs]

Not here in 'Murica. Our federal government will make sure that the only EVs will be overpriced Teslas. We're screwed.

[@nathanbrumbaugh8545]

Sorry to hear that we have quite a few options here in the United States and even though Tesla is by far the number one seller, I am not tempted at all to purchase one. There are just better options in my opinion so hoping things will change for you someday.

[@peterpan408]

Hm.. This may have been Elons price. That and perpetual funding for Starship and Defense Contracts.

[@mikewallace8087]

purple , you want to enjoy the products of slave labor. That lust will screw the world.

[@michaelkatz275]

Wait until you purchase one of those cheap EV's from China and a battery fire breaks out.

[@AmitSingh-nq1ct]

It's crazy how US was pushing the whole world towards green and clean energy and vehicles. As soon as China took the lead, the whole argument is flipped on its head.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

I am retiring in Electric Grid challenged Philippines , my next car will be a Chinese made PHEV , or EV, planning to install Solar and LFP batteries and be Offgrid , no Gas or Diesel needed.

[@greggcal4583]

I find this channel interesting in that I don't know a single person who owns an EV. If all of this self-driving actually comes true, I can see it changing but not in 2 years. I have not seen any change broadcast in cold weather performance for EV's which is horrible. Fast charging is still a joke compared to filling a tank at a station. Further, I don't buy a car to drive 200 miles, then another to drive 400 miles, etc. I buy a car to handle all of these situations. Range and recharge are still a huge factor for someone like me who just came back from an 1800 mile trip. It was long enough with a gas car, I could not imagine it in today's EV.

[@ramblerandy2397]

On the years for the last buying of ICEVs, It think 2026 will definitely be the end for the UK. Certainly when the ZEV mandate returns to 2030.

[@Gdesign959]

Electric Viking is making the same mistake all the manufacturers made. People not from America don’t realize how big it is and how many people have hobbies that require gasoline. Big boats, RV, camping far from home in remote locations, big heavy landscaping trailers pulled by diesel trucks, farming, etc. America is just vastly different than the rest of the world.

[@jimclarence5441]

You're correct. What we need is batteries or some sort of solid state that gives long term range. Now whether this technology happens in the next five years, ten years...we'll see.

[@kenbehrens5778]

NO! the US is not vastly different to the rest of the world. There are many bigger countries with lots of space. Sorry you just aren't that special. True you are a lazy outlier in the EV movement. However I don't believe carbon based fuels will be unavailable for those who need it. Net zero means just that. It's not (absolute) zero carbon.

[@thepurplemaskknows9383]

@@kenbehrens5778I agree that there will be gasoline for the limited future need for it, although that need will be decreasing. People are not grasping the fact that this is a rolling disruption, autos first and then the boat, RV, farming, and probably aviation.

[@craigmerrow225]

​@@thepurplemaskknows9383Don't forget electric construction equipment, that's starting to happen as well!

[@hclau218]

I agree - America can go invade other countries and at the same time call out another country for "aggression". This level of double standards and hypocrisy really let America stands out! 😅

[@teslafuturelooksbright]

Approximately five years ago, I started purchasing Tesla stock. Just over four years ago, I bought a Tesla model Y AWD with profits from my Tesla stock. I've continued to buy Tesla stock in the downtimes and now have 2550+ shares. Ready to buy a Cybertruck after driving Ford F150 lightning and GM Denali EV. I just don't get how slow Legacy is adopting technology. It's scary. I've been a GM fan all my life (11 vehicles owned)and now a EV fan and Tesla fan boy! (69 year old senior). Can't even get a road test in a Cybertruck locally but I'm just going to buy one because everyone that drives it is so happy! Driving the F150 lightning and GMC Denali EV opened my eyes & there's only one choice since I want to pull a 9000 pound trailer (a Cybertruck with range extender battery) The very knowledgable salesman at GM was shocked to hear what Tesla can do over there present vehicles.He knew when I left that he lost the sale even though it was a bargain at 122,000 cad. & interest rate to finance was 1.99% with no down payment! I have made over 1,000,000 profits (not to brag but tell the absolute truth) in Tesla stock and will hold my shares for the tsunami in share price coming! I just can't sell one Tesla stock for at least another year. So why not finance and let the stocks ride to a bigger high!📈 PS .........anybody with a Cybertruck in the interior of BC Canada that will take me for a road test, I would gladly pay them since I have to drive to Vancouver or Calgary to road test one! I live in Vernon B.C. 🇨🇦

[@tdcowder]

Very hard to plan a trip with my Tesla. Government builds < 10 chargers with billions invested.

[@paulmonahan2975]

Why don’t you use the Tesla supercharging network super easy just put your destination in and the car will tell you where to charge it

[@ISuperTed]

Total BS, you’re just trying to repeat the fake story put out a while ago about funds ‘allocated’ for EV chargers but not many built. It’s not billons spent, it’s allocated but not yet spent, big big difference. On top of that, if you’ve got a Tesla there are loads of Superchargers and you know it (or don’t have one more likely). Total BS.

[@elenabob4953]

​@@ISuperTedHere is the thing, the sum needed to build a charger station is extremely high and the profits are extremely low, at the limit of bankruptcy. That is the reason why the infrastructure did développer. Yes, Elon is doing his best to put in place charging stations but that is an impossible task, it is like asking only one person to bring electricity everywhere.

[@ISuperTed]

@@elenabob4953It’s not billions to build < 10 chargers though is it, which is what I’ve commented on. You’re right though, it’s currently too expensive to built at pace.

[@tdcowder]

@@paulmonahan2975 usually shows about 30 percent off of my planned route. If one is out of service i have a big problem.

[@bcluett1697]

I'm seeing a drop in car repair places lately here in parts of Canada. There are less mechanics as the old guys retire and the service costs and labour skyrocket. When you can find a guy to repair your junker jeep they are stuck in the parking lot for weeks. If that end of things collapses than everything else will follow. The few machanics left might make out well but there's just not enough young people that will get under the hood for a living to replace them.

[@Dr.Gehrig]

Sam, I love that you actually say the hard truth that "internal combustion engines are poisoning people." This is so crucial to get across. Might I add some perspective, 1. Air pollution kills between 6 and 9 human beings per year depending on what year you look at. Most recent data puts it over 8 million, making it second only to high blood pressure and ahead of smoking, in terms of mortality risk factor. 2. Air pollution is the number 1 cause of disease adjusted life years, that is years of life lived with negative life impacting diseases, ahead of both high blood pressure and smoking. 3. Framing Air pollution and climate change not as "environmental issues" but as "human health and safety issues" is shown to be vastly more effective. 4. Referring to toxic tailpipe vehicles not just as "poisoning people" but as "choosing to force innocent people to breathe poison against their will" elicits even more powerful responses, and is accurate.

[@alan2102X]

GREAT COMMENT. Cheers.

[@mikewallace8087]

When an EV battery starts on fire the fumes are more toxic than a gasoline fire , often demanding the down wind residents to evacuate.

[@Dr.Gehrig]

@mikewallace8087 a thing that is dozens of times less likely to happen btw, and if and when they do the more common (even though they are so rare) fires burn much more slowly and less dramatically. Also, you will find the fumes of a toxic tailpipe vehicle burning are plenty toxic. And again, they force people around them to breathe poison against their will as they function normally making up over 70% of urban and suburban air pollution. Again, noting air pollution kills over 8 million people a year in recent years. Orders of magnitude worse than any damage done by ev contribution to air pollution. Cute. Nice try.

[@michaelkatz275]

Did you take battery fires in to account?

[@stevevarga8621]

As true as this message maybe it does not seem to register with anybody. Nobody talks about air pollution. It’s as if it doesn’t exist. Why????

[@bigeye4520]

It's going to be a horrible scene of abandoned factories lining the skylines of developed, or previously so, countries. Hope it's not going to be people rummaging for food on the streets, not the deja vu of Great Depression.

[@leaulife569]

More tosh.

[@mlmichael261]

Any industrial investment with an amortisation of 20 years or more has a risk of becoming worthless due to disruption. Even windparks, even solar, you name it. Sometimes investing too early may be a problem

[@richardweyland116]

Drill, baby, drill. This video is a steaming pile.