Expert Ski Lessons #7.1 - Body Position Short Turns

[@sofiel4873]

This is the best ski instructions I have ever seen. Daren, thank u for sharing.

[@skng]

It's a pleasure Sofie L. We're stoked to hear you're finding our skiing lessons so useful. Stay tuned we hope to bring you more soon. Cheers, Elate.

[@natskis]

Love these videos Darren. Thank you so much. Sent the intro ones to all of the beginners I'm organising to take down to the snow this year!

[@beastron1]

Agreed, great set of videos. They have really helped me, thank you so much!

[@soleaguirre100]

absolutely agree 👍🏼😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@halilhalil9562]

The best ski lessons! I have leveled up from intermediate to advanced thanks to Darren Turner and his lessons. I hope soon to level up to expert :)

[@skng]

Thanks for the great feedback Halil Halil. It's fantastic to hear that our ski lessons are helping so much. Hopefully this season you'll master the Advanced skiing section. Let us know how it goes.

[@vlip8334]

Your Chanel is sort of a legend. The explanation and the gradual steps of learning are so helpful.

[@trouts4444]

Daren & Ski School, excellent videos with clear and understandable explinations that help versus confuse. Thank you.

[@cumberjac]

You taught me how to ski thank you so much. Advancing so quickly

[@skng]

It's a real pleasure cumberjac. Get the basics right in skiing and everything else becomes a whole lot easier.

[@jedijens]

Awesome as always! Just wish this video would have been released last week when I went skiing!

[@Areausmg]

All right! New video! Thank you sir.

[@michaelpaul9179]

Very good clear instruction. Thank you!!

[@yourphysicscoachi-engineer2310]

Excellent job. Set 8 might just tune up my skills even though I haven't worked out how to spend as much time on the slopes as you (yes, I'm jealous). This will help me teach my family and friends and keep them from telling me to shut up! Thanks. Now it's time for me to get the App!

[@aboutface102]

It also helps to have a pair of 165 cm slalom skis with a 12 m radius. ;)

[@tiaaisha9954]

I properly skiied last time when i was a toddler and now i am learning with my mind once again,thanks for the great videos.

[@fungiuse]

U Skiied as a TODLER??? hahahahh, show us the video... and I will show you mine when I came out of the womb already skiing moguls!!! hahahaha

[@fungiuse]

Excellent video... Thanks!!

[@skng]

Glad you liked it!

[@milelale]

I like your videos because are very helpful!!

[@skng]

Thanks milelale. Glad you're finding our skiing lessons so helpful. Hope you have great winter.

[@pinkskitchen]

Very useful my friend. TFS. Stay connected 😊

[@jeffreygu3654]

Awesome skiing man

[@fahadaizaz]

You have the best videos about Ski instructions - no doubt; clear and simple to understand. I only have one request. The difference in technique between (medium/long) turns and short turns. Keeping the body always directed downhill for short turns. Isn't this a general rule for all kind of turns (long/medium/short)? Whats really is the difference in technique between (medium/long) vs short turns.

[@codycheyblaine1941]

your videos are awesome. you are teaching me a lot. i am a beginner so i am not ready for this but i commented on this vid so you can see it. I am 10 years old. Plz reply. cant wait to get back into winter season.

[@skng]

Hey +Codychey Blaine. Great to hear that you are into skiing and I hope our lessons are helping out. Get the basics right when you are young and it will set you up to progress faster and you'll be shredding the whole mountain in no time.

[@adsa973]

Nice turns, great to see some new vids

[@skng]

Thanks Adam G. It's good to back. Look out for more skiing films this winter.

[@commandermark79]

This guy is a fantastic skier

[@panheadbob2926]

Actually, ... not so much.

[@matteoscotto7289]

Great clear work

[@eskilforsberg3544]

When watching this I'm suffering from severe skiing abstinence.

[@vitomanzella3528]

I appreciate that you are now wearing a helmet. Great videos!!!

[@jasonwu6177]

You help me a lot thanks

[@vietrandy1]

Very good lesson.

[@StephenGBarr]

Excellent lesson!

[@murd777]

You're the best!

[@grassrootsguy]

Excellent specific techniques poles under arms straight down practice on rollers ditch poles, arms straight out separate upper and lower body retract, extend...

[@stephenhill6003]

Great videos and instructions.

[@jemhallcoach]

thanks Darren, great tips

[@meriwetherwilliams5590]

Excellent!

[@jacobthebaer]

Darren, I noticed in your video "Skiing Stacked" (Advanced Ski Technique - Skiing Stacked) you instructed to have your torso facing in the same direction as the skis and direction of travel, however in this video you said to have your torso facing down the fall line independent of your skis. Please explain when these different techniques should be used. Thanks, Jacob

[@touge242]

body separation is best practiced by replacing the poles with cans of beer

[@carlnatter3952]

LMAO!!

[@bfobar]

...you're not wrong

[@Bulldog1653]

Definitely worth a try lol

[@panheadbob2926]

Ski design technology is so advanced today. Skiers today don't have as advanced skills that skiers had from say, mid seventies through the eighties. Ski design has changed skiing technics and how skiing skills (steering, edging, pressure) progress to advanced levels. Interesting to watch the simultaneous leg rotation, the extreme banking (weighting the inside ski) and pressuring the skies mostly in the fall line. These skis are a blast to ski on, but you won't catch me skiing like that, .. o.k. maybe in the moguls.

[@joebenoliel6284]

Hey just wondering what ski mountain are you at

[@hudsonquay]

In the demonstration are you only using the edges to turn or are you also using rotation. If using both, approximately what proportion of each? The idea of retracting the legs at the end of the turn to change edges was a revelation to me. Also thinking about the ski as a spring, when the ski is loaded the sping is coiled and at the end of the turn you release to spring out and into the next turn.

[@markdirigible9062]

Excellent instructions. Where was this video taken?

[@skng]

Thanks again +mark dirigible. This lesson was also filmed in Serre Chevalier, France. Cheers

[@jamespoetzscher6523]

so when I'm skiing double blacks should I turn using the edges like u showed or should I flatten my skies during the turn like you showed in the how to ski steeps video.

[@panheadbob2926]

If you're asking this question, I doubt your skiing Double black Diamonds, ... To answer your question, ... Probably best to not think so much about edging and work on vertical movement with steering, upper/lower body separation and a good pole plant on the down movement, .... do they even teach pole plants anymore?

[@Underhills]

Could you please share if your skiing an allmountain ski here? In any case, would an allmountain ski give you the same turns as with a race carver?

[@johnmoore3569]

Great video clip for the kids as they don't listen to me:)

[@rafaelfalagan3814]

During the transition from turn to turn you always flatten and retract. Isn't this a valid statement for short as well as log radius turns ?

[@AcheronMaster]

Geeat videos!! Huge fan but need a help.. I keep my legs too close together (old school) affecting everything I am trying for. Any advice how to get rid of it?? Many thanks

[@dmitryalexandrov9007]

Thank you Darren and Ski School for the great video. However, does anybody know how to control speed using this technique? For example, in longer radius turns I can direct my skis slightly uphill at the end of each turn. In short turns if I apply more pressure on skis, then virtual bump starts to ruin everything. Are there some tips or I have to handle this annoying bump? How? I would like to avoid situations, when ski loses contact with the snow, until I'll go quad cork, lol. Btw it's clearly seen on the video that virtual bump occurs at almost every Darren's transition phase

[@EGIwords]

Good stuff!

[@headphonic8]

This is so hard for me to do! I feel like it's way harder for me to "aim" my skis in the right direction when my body and face is facing a totally different way.

[@pproestos]

where can I view the #7.2 long turns? isn't it out yet? thx

[@RVHatcher]

Great description of the "what"; but, where is the "how"?

[@enkarerallegro4353]

Very good job, You have power in your legs. How old are you? Regards from Poland :-)

[@themplar]

Very nice. AND a helmet this time! Only problem i have with this technique is the weight on the inner leg. its to much to often. So an average skier will have more risk of falling because of to much weight on the inner leg. (could be it just looks like that but i can see some transitios who show this aswell) But it sure looks nice.

[@rsvpilot72]

I think you are looking at it wrong mate. This video is aimed at Expert level skiing. The technique of keeping the inside ski light is a technique that belongs to the intermediate skill set. With advanced ski techniques the edges of both skis are to be engaged and gripping the snow, although there will usually be more pressure on the outside ski in most situations. Look at where his center of mass stays.

[@themplar]

James Kelley Well you are right about that. But even with experts it does give problems. Is saw a video of an olympiade with several countries demonstrating the techniques even at this higest level you could see the countries that leaned in too much had issues. And ofcourse oblitterated by the machines of Austria. Sure at higher levels there will be more weight towards the inner ski, max of 50/50 though. But you are right at real expert level this is a fun method to do but even for experts its sketchy when leaning in the curve to much without counterbalancing. And what is expert level these days in a time that sadly people take 3 days of lessons and then take it on on them selves.

[@keitht.2727]

themplar "Expert" implies a broad range of turn radius, carve/slarve/skid/butter under ridiculously varied situations (off-piste/race/park). I coach and instruct all aspects. To address your initial qualification about weighting the inside ski, it's situational. As an example, would you want the inside ski bending less than the outside ski running gates? Nope. You want both skis to be in the same arc. This goes for most applications where your body is 'stacked'. There's a shift in the hips if you counter in short turns or bumps; you can still weight the inside ski. I don't know if you're referring to steeps, but I'd say the only time I A-frame a turn is in hard, icy chutes. Your race analogies are non-sequitur; WC racers are constantly on the edge of control.

[@OfficialBetta]

Weeeeeeeeeee threeeee kingsssss

[@jamessmile203]

do you not believe in up and down movements between turns?

[@panheadbob2926]

The lateral movement from side to side is the equivalent to a more "up & down" vertical movement. Lateral movement is used in larger radius turns, while an up / down is seen more in shorter radius turns.

[@KadenBeardvlogs]

Do you guys still look at comments?

[@JB91710]

The vast majority of skiers make Giant Slalom or long radius turns but the following information is the same thought process for Slalom turns. Every time you make a turn, the skis are taking you across the Fall Line. Think of a dollar $ign. The best way to think of your body position when you are ready to start a new turn is, put your upper body, from your hips up, back in the fall line and as you get off your downhill foot. While your skis continue across the hill, you are going down the hill. That is what makes your legs go from leaning up the hill to down the hill which is what rolls your feet over so you will end up on the arch of your uphill foot. As your skis come around towards the opposite direction, your body is already down the hill and over the tips of the skis and they catch your fall. Skiing is continually falling down the hill while allowing the skis to turn and catch you to control your speed. What is wrong with this demonstration and it is Critical information, he needs to be telling you when you are getting off your downhill ski to allow the uphill skis to start and make the next turn. This demonstration makes you think that all you do is stand on both feet and roll your ski over. Mentioning retracting and extending the legs is a confusing way to explain what is really happening with your legs. Going back to the falling down the hill and the skis catching you comment, as the skis turn under you while you are falling, your legs compress. As you fall over them and go down hill when they are still crossing the hill, your legs extend. It is not something you Do, Make Happen or Think About, it is a result of doing other things correctly. Which were left out here.

[@rogerpalin5864]

Having read the ramblings of your words above the only thing for certain is you have no idea how to ski or inspire others to ski

[@tyschemanski5439]

Yea! You're wearing a helmet!

[@marcg3923]

he's not wearing testicles protection, we all know it's very important

[@michaelcowen4500]

@@marcg3923 how do you know?

[@janeeliott807]

You're not a bad skier, but you still ski like an Englishman. Look up Andreas Spettel or other Austrians on youtube; that's how I want to ski! Every turn they make is beautiful.

[@khairulhafiz3016]

is that a diffrent ski skill between english man n other?

[@jonathanpollock8563]

But do you have a specific problem or suggested improvement (one that you could articulate) with his teaching/demonstration which seems pretty clear and helpful to me (as a late starter trying to improve their short turns)?

[@jooproukens800]

@@jonathanpollock8563 More pressure on the front of the ski, more pressure on the upside ski and put the whole body downhill.

[@alexlazar1475]

What's the fuss with the helmet? Give him a break.

[@raynardi7243]

Il problema è che quando prendi velocità uno si mette un po' paura...

[@LBB_gaming]

What ski mountain?

[@harrychilds5441]

Jimmy Hutchinson loser

[@Loyee2000]

This guy finally puts a helmet on.

[@AlpineMeister]

Body position has no place in ski instruction. That's what we are watching right now ..a stuck stick like upper body. Body dynamics, proactive body movements is ski instruction. Everything about a ski turn is making sure the upper body stays ahead of you. I advocate skiing from your toes you get more more angulation. It's not that you are leveraging by putting your nose over your tips but recognize that many ski boots never had enough lean and many are too stiff and many people ski with stiff feet and ankles.

[@yurikhar]

Нет вертикальной работы...

[@amycyclenut]

Great video. Helmet or not is a personal choice, mind your own business.

[@cace83]

As long as you don't hurt yourself its your business, but once you hurt, then there are many other people involved. Without a helmet the risks of getting other people involved (=hurt yourself) is higher.

[@alexisblossom7183]

your're talking about body position, and say to practice where your arms go and what they should feel like, and when you don't have poles you look great, but when you do have poles, you drag them, and it looks awful and very amateur like.

[@mironlucian3416]

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