EXPLAINED: How Mutual Obligations Will Change For Job Seekers In Welfare Reform From Next Week

[@MelaniaRose]

Get rid of those cruel jobs agencies, who play mind games on the unemployed.

[@thinkingallowed7042]

They are staffed by low IQ, low skill power trippers who have let a little power go to their heads. All they do is mess with the heads of those they are paid to mistreat, humiliate and dominate. It is the most disgraceful system.

[@djrbfmbfm-woa]

Hello, the entire welfare system is a load of old junk. it has never worked. My recommendation is for ALL ppl on this terrible system to start a class action against the Gov't for compensation. j.

[@cracknoir8397]

Hit the nail on the head by saying Dehumanize the system maybe the politicians should go on this system for 6 months and try it out and see if they survive they won't do that though

[@galegrazutis964]

It's not meant to be a lifelong lifestyle it's meant to keep you afloat while you find work. I know people who gave been on Centreike for DECADES.!!!

[@JohnDoe-vr9bj]

I'm currently stuck between MO and disability(not even going to bother) and surgery waiting lists. I'm currently unemployable due to my injury, yet these real dole bludgers keep pushing me closer to the brink with their bs

[@AndysDIY]

I started a small mobile handyman welding business late last year and have declared all earnings from it proving that it is a legitimate business with an ABN, liability insurance etc. I had an appointment with a job provider (salvation army employment plus) earlier this week and was basically laughed at and told that i need to provide 100 points per month to qualify for payment regardless of the fact that i have jobs i need to quote but am unable to due to the recent weather events. I was also told that quoting work doesn't qualify for the points system.... I'm not sitting at home doing nothing. I'm having a go but it doesn't seem to matter. I feel like just giving the whole thing up but i will press on.

[@JohnDoe-vr9bj]

hope things are doing better than 6 months ago.

[@josephpiggott619]

The job search people are ridiculous they are manipulative

[@AndysDIY]

@@JohnDoe-vr9bj Due to the pressure from the job network system i unfortunately have had to shelve the welding business and am working in a more "appropriate" job according to their idea of proper work.

[@AndysDIY]

@@josephpiggott619 They are. They are only interested in meeting their own KPI's and don't give a stuff about individual circumstances etc. I had to shelve my business to qualify for any assistance.

[@makhenaten]

I meet my obligations, I’m 60, yet can’t report my paid working hours as self employed (average 45 p wk). The Federal Legisation is not adhered to, nor even known, by my provider consultant ( Deception Bay), and Centrelink told me not to submit hours / pay via fortnightly reports, as I normally did, but use tax return data as I’m self employed and they work out what to pay me averaged out. My provider consultant has also been classically abusive with shouting threatened menial job orders at me in the public office and refusing to view or believe my resume level or fantasy perceived skills in arts, events and music over my lifetime, nor even my proven paid hours using delivery app. Her psychological attempts at abuse are also illegal. Why should taxpayers pay for state sponsored narcissistic abuse and destruction of what I already do so provider can sponge a commission of my job destruction for one of their own ?

[@makhenaten]

Actually, now I can report hours, but they are trying to destroy my existing paid work and niche skills to get a Commision from placing me in a job of their choosing which has no relevance to my advanced talents, even though the rules are not to do so if it conflicts with existing paid work, which it does

[@bubblewrapfred]

And so many of the people in this situation are disabled but unable to access the DSP (which is also below the poverty line)

[@twitafftwitaff7029]

A new government ad. Jobseeker. Designed to punish you for being unemployed.

[@Aurora-qn2dx]

And commit SUICIDE like people did with robodebts!!! And any CENTERLINK DEBTS that are still going on...they just changed the name.

[@SFCFilms]

Rather than a policing welfare system why don't we try a social welfare system? Like the universal income? The money saved on all these buggy and unworkable systems to a genuine support system where poorest in the community have a decent life accompanied with genuine empowering trainings to improve their skills, would more than justify the expenditure. And it's not hard to shift some of the budget from useless things like corporate welfare to this, which will in the long run provide better results for the society.

[@neatznotso7424]

If they wanted to make this any more confusing then it already is they wouldn't be able to...its seriously ridiculous

[@makhenaten]

Yes - a dangerous further step towards a completely locked down battery hen Australia, especially for entertainers, gig economy workers and , in fact, most self employed. Centrelink system only uploads hours from regular style employment, so won’t recognise your hours for points.

[@JohnDoe-vr9bj]

Employment (TM)

[@Aurora-qn2dx]

Your punishing and killing vulnerable Australians for asking for help!!! This is brutal and cruel.. people would work if they could.. this point task nonsence is unresonable esp for sick peoole or people that have sick relatives and are caring for them..if poor people could work they would..why punish vulnerable people?

[@sickntired553]

Group litigation coming people!! Join us!!

[@josephpiggott619]

This is so true spent half my life changing circumstances they dont understand what it's like to re sign up countless times

[@makhenaten]

My paid work is self employed- 45 hours this week alone, but completely ignored as not as an employee, so no points for it all.

[@JK-dg4md]

Chinese style social type scoring/control system based on points awarded for acting in a certain preordained way

[@makhenaten]

Yes - a dangerous further step towards a completely locked down battery hen Australia, especially for entertainers, gig economy workers and , in fact, most self employed. Centrelink system only uploads hours from regular style employment.

[@paulinebell4873]

...how much money is given to the job active provider organisations?

[@melissaconstable8019]

They were just given 7b

[@paulinebell4873]

@@melissaconstable8019 if you divide 7b by 750000 benefit recipients, thats $179 per person per week. i hope they are satisfied with the service...

[@josephpiggott619]

Our government doesnt understand being cut off as a casual or even cutoff on full time before the probation period at a job its all ridiculous now

[@ObscureSampology]

So 5 points for applying for a job ? So 20 jobs should add up to 100 points right ?

[@NatWhereYouAt]

Job seekers have always been penalised for not making appointments without a valid reason. This isn't new

[@yabbadabbadoo8225]

Strange how before Germany went to war in 1939 they had 100% full employment while the rest of the world still suffered from the 29 depression. Unemployment is policy

[@ellyturner6125]

Not much information well thats the Labour Party for you...full of lies and coas

[@satiricgames2129]

Well spoken

[@Aurora-qn2dx]

ROBODEBTS still are going on!! Dont be fooled!!!!!!! Its not over!

[@thinkingallowed7042]

The irony of the 'journalist' with no neck and no looks (Sarah Harris) who once publicly described people as 'unemployed nobodies' conducting an interview with an anti poverty advocate as if she has any compassion or interest in the impact of unemployment policies.

[@davidanthony6222]

It's still 20 jobs a month. Because its 5 points for a job. Shouldn't it be 20 points. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@eyesonly5494]

That’s the funny thing, by making computerised it can be played better. You could make you 100 points in 2 or 3 days and computer would say cool you have 100 points. Computer systems can be easily fooled.

[@Grimgool]

This is not good and sounds very worrying, unless your still able to get 100 points by applying for 20 jobs then that will at-least be doable since it follows the same criteria as the last one. But I dont know if they will allow that due to possibly putting restrictions on how many points you can get for job applications. Cause certain criteria to do will get you points however it says its for that month or year.

[@xRonSKiiSpeeD]

You’ve brought up a really good point actually.. I guess I’ll find out when I have to complete the tasks next week 😭 fingers crossed. 🤞🏻😂

[@Grimgool]

@@xRonSKiiSpeeD Fax my guy

[@gort3969]

20bjobs a month is not out. People can choose to stay with the old system according to the minister

[@makhenaten]

Should workforce australia be in trouble for trying to bargain services for deals to get you to agree to exit needed welfare?

[@maytalmurray7556]

So is the payment going up sense your going to working for some job they force to do.

[@keiracurro8407]

I've only got 1 demerit point in the Last 5 years, But the way the Employment agencies neglect their client I'd rather just get a Demerit, Because the glitch in the System penalizes you for behaving difficultly, So For people on the Autism Spectrum, I feel like We're being punished for being born differently, But this Is Okay Because it's all behind closed doors, People are hurt & suffering & i think it's sad for the Country and shameful, If i'm not being blunt? a fair go?

[@traceyholt8223]

They aren't working for "free"! They are working for a payment! The balance between work and looking for work needs to be fair.

[@peterpalmato467]

Which is less than the minimum wage. Should just be employed by govt. Cheaper

[@gorerath]

Work out what they are paid, then how many hours a week they are expected work .

[@fremantlesheila7632]

Free labour why ? Give them a chance to make a $ and employ them. Sad ethics.

[@stuartobrien78]

Work Force Australia. How about genuine flexibility. Progressive change. The coalition were never flexible.

[@ccm4455]

Who want to live in $1000 a month, while those job seekers mail thousand of dollar tax when they were employed

[@jarradsaitaer384]

Labor reduced it from 20 jobs to 4 So that is a good thing :-)

[@Unknown-nf1se]

My grandad would not eat unless he earned the food in front of him …

[@JohnDoe-vr9bj]

So...the new Uber for labour hire

[@rattmice3384]

I'm always looking for workers, most just want their center link forms signed. I've begged them to work because I'm desperate for staff, but they don't want to. The government needs to make the dole less attractive. Giving people something for nothing makes them reliant and takes away their self-esteem.

[@kevinowen7388]

The minister objective is to get those long term welfare recipients known as dole bludgers who can work but don't want to work in rorting the welfare system for so long to get out and do activities to earn their money in fairness to those who go to work in paying taxes for them therefore if all other tax payers can do it why not these welfare collectors do the same without any excuses 50/50 !

[@R.Nashoba]

Australian Welfare recipients are taxed, and the social security system benefit is classed as a income under the ATO. There's alot more in this than long term unemployment

[@MsGubins]

You don't seem to understand any of this. You sound like a typical loud mouthed whinging Aussie who sees everyone through the same shallow bias. Am I wrong?

[@sidboraus6151]

Why would you work for dole work for paid job why penalise ppl more get real

[@desking8065]

We must save money where ever necessary. By on line appliance will surely save money on Centrelink staff and save jobseekers having to go to Centrelink. That female was unduly harsh about something that will become clear as the system is rolled out . You cannot condemn a system that you know nothing about. So quit panicking.

[@icu64]

It's still a modern day 9 to 5 slavery.

[@ZacPopov]

I love the Project …not

[@cybasmuggla3697]

Hungry Jack's is hiring. Get a job.

[@peterpalmato467]

Universal Basic Income

[@galegrazutis964]

@@peterpalmato467 FANTASTIC IDEA!! Then nobody will work. Where will it come from then.

[@peterpalmato467]

@@galegrazutis964 Millionaires and billionaires. None of whom work.

[@benjamingriswold2564]

@@After_Pasta As long as there are still plenty of engineers, mechanics and miners and all of that to maintain this robot workforce I suppose

[@benjamingriswold2564]

@@After_Pasta If there is an AI with the ability to conceptualize, design and physically build other robots then sure why not 😂

[@nthnl4156]

If they put payments up where I love 😂 the drug dealers will get there 70 a day increase 😂 it will make unemployment worse then ever 😂 they should cut it to make the Scabs 👷

[@RoyBennett-dz2cq]

Get off the meth brother

[@lolitavlcek6373]

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